Subdivision continues to ban pickup parking despite new Florida HOA law

[@michaelragusa5138]

HOA's don't enact laws for safety or security, they do it for control. Some people get a "high" controlling others.

[@patrickwhelan5703]

Sounds like a party I belonged to. Not anymore!

[@rooster1012]

And yet millions of idiots still agree to sign the HOA agreement.

[@robertreis9937]

They do it for money

[@neilkurzman4907]

😂😂😂😂😂😅

[@neilkurzman4907]

@@rooster1012 Sounds like millions of people are trying to avoid a neighbor like you

[@masterskrain2630]

Never buy a home in a HOA neighborhood.

[@mosherbyact]

Then you run the risk of another type of bureaucrat who wants to use imminent domain to flatten your home

[@coasterblocks3420]

@@mosherbyactwhich could also be used to demolish houses in an HOA estate. Being in an HOA does not act as a force field.

[@stephenneil9345]

​@mosherbyact dumbest shit ive ever heard.

[@stalkingyouisfun]

80% of homes in the US have one.

[@mannyc4224]

Never had an HOA and never had those issues. ​@mosherbyact

[@thebullgator]

My dad has a close friend in Fort Myers who’s HOA pulled this stunt. The guy has a $100k loaded out Denali 2500 truck and got letter from his HOA. He Started parking the truck at my dad’s property and then bought the ugliest beater of a car he could find. Now he drives the beater to my dad’s when he wants to use the truck. I’m sure the HOA loves looking at his beat up 97 caprice classic.

[@angeladavis2010]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 the guy is a genius!!!!!

[@jasonrodgers9063]

!!! I LOVE IT!!!

[@skinchen]

I love the Petty LOL!!

[@scottkelso4453]

My friend did the same thing. Purchased a wrecked Ford Fairmont. After driving that for a couple of weeks, they didn't say a thing when he went back to driving his new F-150.

[@Michael9-23-15]

Love that

[@neverclevernorwitty7821]

Why in the world anyone would voluntarily agree to move into an HOA and conform to such silly rules boggles my mind. 🤯

[@pukaseek]

My son and his wife bought a 1/2 million dollar house (against my advice) sans an HOA. As a result they have a neighbor who has a huge storage container in his front yard. Another neighbor has a 20+ foot boat and trailer parked on the street. My crappy neighborhood has no such things because we do have an HOA.

[@michaelragusa5138]

@pukaseek My attitude is that my neighbor can do anything on his property as long as he does not endanger my health, safety, or well-being or anybody else's health, safety, or well-being.

[@michaelddrapala7479]

​@pukaseek why does what your neighbor have affect you. Let them have thier container and boat.

[@throttleblipsntwistedgrips1992]

@@pukaseekimagine being so pretentious and concerned with appearances that you are worried about what your neighbor does with his money, his time and his life. He probably has a much higher quality of life and enjoyment than you ever will.

[@pukaseek]

@@throttleblipsntwistedgrips1992 boy are you self righteous. I’m not pretentious at all. I keep up with my yard as I would hope everyone else does. And yes, making your neighborhood look trashy affects everybody’s home values. So if you want to live in a trashy neighborhood then it’s your right.

[@Nekulturny]

The law should have included a provision to arrest HOA board members who fail to comply.

[@LdyVder]

Deep down, the state is going to have a hard time getting older HOA neighborhoods to comply. There is a contract between the homeowner and the HOA when they bought the home. The state can't come in and just change it.

[@TimberlakeTigerGirl]

​@@LdyVderThey can if they use force. The law is the law, and if the HOA refuses to comply, then the state should give them a choice; comply or be disbanded.

[@tcpnetworks]

Just ban the whole concept of HOAs. They are disgusting.

[@16MedicRN]

There is.

[@BG-bx4ey]

I just resigned from being president of my HOA. Trying to change dumb, restrictive rules like this one was such a waste of time. Any time a change was mentioned at a meeting people would throw a literal tantrum with no awareness of reality or truth, pounding the tables and screaming over nonsense ams gibberish... The whole HOA thing is a bad idea because the majority of people are staggeringly idiotic.

[@rickhammond2473]

Wrong educated morons

[@BibleTellTale]

Hence, y I stop going on my HOA meetings because we can't ask questions. Smh

[@foxtrotwolf6081]

Why did you guys sign onto the HOA rules? Do like others said, buy where there's no HOA. I did that. Can park whatever wherever, etc. Within 15 years, the hood became a dump, and my house was worth half of what I owed on it.

[@jeffbabies7428]

@@foxtrotwolf6081 Are you in Florida? I’m currently looking to sell my place and I’d like to stay in the same city… but unfortunately, as soon as I exclude HOAs from the search parameters, the listings drop from 1,853 homes to 404 homes. THAT’s why people have no choice but to join a community with an HOA. 45% of Florida homes are in an HOA, and the numbers where I live are clearly even worse. Given how competitive the market is in Florida right now-especially where I am-people have to take what they get or be homeless. 404 properties is not a lot when you live in one of the fastest growing cities in the country. That’s a lot of people vying for very few homes to go around. As for me… I’ve had enough and I’m leaving Florida because I simply can’t find what I want/need unless I keep caving to HOAs. I really can’t do it anymore. I knew they’d be a problem when I first moved here, but I simply didn’t have a choice given where I needed to be. 8 years passed without a problem and now my entire community is in an uproar. Trying to move has made it clear that HOAs are the norm here and they have too much control; they’re not going anywhere anytime soon. We aren’t given enough choice in some cities-because the cities themselves prioritize HOAs over everything else. It’s cheaper for the city when communities are privatized.

[@mvpd98]

They need people like you. Don't quit.

[@paulhunter1735]

No way in hell i would ever live somewhere where they could tell me what i could and could not park in my own driveway. I'll never understand why anyone with a brain would.

[@douglasphillips1203]

The problem is states and municipalities are passing on their job to HOAs (or the management companies to that make $$$$ sending emails and fining people and doing not much else), so they mandate that HOAs must be in place to build new subdivisions

[@ffakr]

@@douglasphillips1203 The root cause is often a lack of resources. Imagine some developer wants to build a new sprawling neighborhood and add more streets to plow, more public spaces to maintain, etc. Unfortunately, towns generally don't have slush funds sitting around to cover the possibility that there may be 'more town' to take care of in 6 months so they enact rules requiring new subdivisions to setup HOAs to directly tax the residents of those areas through Fees, and to cover their own maintenance with those funds. In some areas, it's almost impossible to find housing that ISN'T in an HOA for this reason. I had a buddy who eventually moved from his recently build neighborhood.. not because of an HOA.. but because every house in the subdivision got hit with a special tax assessment to cover the cost of all the infrastructure required by the neighborhood. Sure, he got a newish McMansion in the boonies for maybe $500K (10-15 years ago).. but that neighborhood required major infrastructure projects when it was built.. new sewers, water lines, power, data, etc. The Town they fell inside of decided the best way to fund that was by borrowing money that those residents had to pay off through a special property tax assessment. I think he was paying about 5% of the value of his house in property taxes every year.. and after accepting that for a while, he just moved on.

[@realflaman]

EXACTLY, SO DONT MOVE IN A HOA AND EXPECT THEM TO CHANGE FOR YOU.

[@brianm4178]

​@realflaman you don't even habe to be in an HOA. In San Antonio, they enact similar regulations to an HOA. I was fined for working on my own truck in my own driveway BEHIND a prvicay fence. And I'm not dropping the trans or the motor or anything, just minor work and I was an actual certified mechanic, but it was my personal vehicle, not someone else's. I never paid a penny and kept fighting it until it came to go to court snd they dropped it before the date. They KNOW they aren't legally allowed but people will just pay the fine and comply, to avoid court or any retaliation. And most people do, so they get to do it ALOT

[@ronoconnor8971]

Who owned the lot this guy had to park in? The HOA council?

[@tech4life884]

How about the Governor BAN All forms of HOA's in the entire state?.

[@eastcoastnews9529]

Where is the freedom in America?

[@patrickwhelan5703]

HOA's are born from developers like Pulte, Lennar, D.R. Horton, MI Homes. They build because they're the ones with money and get a management company to set up and sell the home. HOA's are left in their wake....

[@BG-bx4ey]

Because a shit ton of people love them... everyone is free to live somewhere else.

[@BG-bx4ey]

​@@eastcoastnews9529Everywhere has rules and you're free to live where you want.

[@joewoodchuck3824]

​@@eastcoastnews9529 Certainly not on those streets. No problem. There are lots of houses without anyone telling you how to live.

[@garygemmell3488]

It is beyond belief why ANYONE would voluntarily live in an HOA development.

[@TheVilouboy]

Because SOME people can’t afford to buy houses with more than a quarter of an acre and they don’t want to live in more “Urban” areas An most people do it for the zoning (school districts) which most times HAVE HOAs

[@AndrewSmith7]

​@@TheVilouboyThey can obviously afford the fees and headache and love being told what to do with their property

[@nastynati3501]

Exactly

[@thenerdnetwork]

Because some people want to live in a nice community where a 23 year old can't buy a house and park 6 cars there with 2 of them broken down and tires deflated. Then he decides to paint his house 4 different colors after the siding and gutters start falling off. Then has his buddies over who park on the street while they all get hammered at the community pool. There is a place for HOAs and people can choose not to live in one if they don't like the rules there.

[@RobertoAfortunado]

@@thenerdnetwork Ok, Karen.

[@genoaoak]

You buy in an HOA, you have problems like this, over and over. Karens are gonna Karen. Never, ever buy a home in an HOA.

[@Catspurrlounge]

I have never lived in an HOA and I never will.

[@duanesealy3592]

Same here

[@crazikyle]

The fact that houses in an HOA neighborhood have any value on the market is astounding. You don't actually own your property and the HOA can foreclose on your own home for any number of petty reasons.

[@demophys4883]

@@crazikyle Oh, bullshit.

[@thanosianthemadtitanic]

​@@demophys4883 how so? what he said is correct

[@user-xl4zr1xw1o]

Don’t it is similar to North Korea. However things do always look neat, clean, organized and beautiful.

[@jayrock2288]

Someone from the hoa is getting a kickback from that lot they all pay to park in

[@dikhurtz2406]

Show proof or it’s a lie

[@davidharris9077]

What difference would that make? When you buy a house within an HOA, you are given a copy of the rules to READ and sign. If you don't agree with the rules, don't live there. It's as simple as that. Don't sign saying that you'll abide by the rules, then cry about it later.

[@jayrock2288]

@davidharris9077 well since the state passed a law stating they can park their own truck at the their house, the HOA should follow the law

[@thorodinson7996]

@@davidharris9077 Look, we found someone that must sit on the board of an HOA

[@Cee64E]

Oh absolutely. That's the only reason that rule exists so the HOA board can have that income.

[@thomaspritchard6571]

This is B.S. Most of the truck in this News article are nice, clean, and certainly not cheap trucks. Stand your ground, and call a LAWYER!!!

[@ScottyLiardi]

You are correct, but the context is ridiculous. Even if it was a cheap beat up truck, and that's all someone could afford to drive... That's no one else's business or concern. If I want to park a torn up 86' f150 in my driveway with missing body parts and a dented tailgate, that only starts with a jump box and lose parts as I drive away... That's my problem. I'll never understand people.

[@LdyVder]

State is going to have a very hard time getting older HOA neighborhoods to comply with this new law. There is a contract signed between the homeowner and the HOA. It's signed the moment they close on the house. The HOA says, no trucks in the driveway. Deep down, trucks not fitting into garages is because today's trucks are too big and too long with large cabs and beds.

[@OtisFlint]

So? Expensive pickups still look so...ew

[@businessraptor134]

Lol sue em? Over a policy established in the 70s? It's not new news.. he paid to live in front yard jail and now he can't be a truck bro and is mad. That's like going to a library then getting mad they arnt showing movies...

[@safeandeffectivelol]

@@businessraptor134 I bet the assholes don't mind having a plumber or electrician with a pickup truck to work on their home

[@jsnsk101]

HOA - You cant park that on your drive way Me - ok ill park it on the lawn

[@ghshrug2029]

An HOA's rules cannot supercede THE LAW!!!

[@wendybryan6071]

If it's private property the HOA can make and enforce its own rules and spend funds as the board and management see fit. They don't ask for input from homeowners.

[@finally97]

Follow the money. Who owns the independent lot?🤔🤔🤔

[@MB5rider81]

I bet it's not too far away from the HOA in degrees of separation.

[@user-account-not-found]

Not the same people buying trucks to commute in lol. Someone smart owns it.

[@JeanPierreWhite]

One would guess someone on the HOA board owns that lot.

[@davidharris9077]

What difference does that make?? When you buy a house within an HOA, you are given a copy of the rules to READ and sign. If you don't agree with the rules, don't live there. It's as simple as that. Don't sign saying that you'll abide by the rules, then cry about it later. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

[@JeanPierreWhite]

@@davidharris9077 If those rules are now against the law that's what the difference is.

[@johnnyflores1978]

Ban HOAs

[@uncletoby-]

Don’t ban them completely. Because there are a few things they do that are helpful. But Definitely do Restrict what they have authority over and what actions they can take to resolve their at times petty concerns.

[@likeawhispr]

You can't ban HOA's. If they try, people will just set up HOA on large swaths of private land that they'll lease - same result, just a different technical twist. You'll never ban HOA's.

[@safeandeffectivelol]

@@likeawhispr That's their private land and they can make the rules. an HOA doesn't own the land of every resident in the area

[@tech4life884]

File a lawsuit. PERIOD!

[@odesangel]

It depends on what the law says. Does it grandfather in HOA agreements that were signed by the homeowners before the law came into effect?

[@therabbitswhisper]

what would be the point of creating a new law, if the grandfather law prevails??

[@thomasperkins1513]

Reasonable thought, but the lawyers hired by the hoa are paid with your dues,any money's recovered, if you win, are paid by dues,so technically you are suing yourself and your neighbors, sad I know,but that's how the crooked hoa works...

[@jefferyschic]

​@@odesangelThe new law says nothing about grandfathering

[@seymorefact4333]

HOA is. there to protect property values! MOVE. I see neighborhoods w/ 4 or more trucks parked in front of a house with their company signs on the trucks and trailers. A neighborhood isn't storage for your company vehicles and/OR beat up rusted vehicles. You must be ok w/ a neighbor w/ 5 trucks and their trailers w/ equipment parked in front of your house! and crewmen coming and going at all times of the day!

[@saylsen]

All the truck owners should park at home and stop paying HOA fees.

[@Titan-zn3fs]

That will only result in a lien on the property which can result in the property being confiscated eventually. Welcome to the dictatorship that conservative voters put into office with various GOP traitors.

[@the_regulatur]

Our HOA disbanded. The majority of the homeowners weren't paying their fees, so there was no money for landscaping, but most importantly, no money for lawyers. Lol

[@JasonPutschker-xw9uf]

Most lawyers work on pro bono. Pay if u win, a loss would equal no payday.

[@pwu8194]

He could sue for declaratory judgment to declare HOA rules illegal.

[@LTC_Tiger]

And he would lose. There's Florida case law stating that the retroactive impairment of a contract by a subsequent enactment of a statute is unconstitutional under the Florida Constitution. The case is called Cohn v. Grand Condominium Association, Inc.

[@claycoates5056]

@@LTC_Tiger This is well worth a Challenge the owner would most likley win BUT it would be a PAIN IN THE ASS

[@johnnywang206]

Or he and other owners can run for the board and change the bylaws

[@carlmenger9145]

@@LTC_Tiger The US Constitution also prohibits states from impairing the obligation of contracts.

[@joelmartin2549]

What difference would it make, if they are flouting the law now why would they respect a judgment? These HOA’s can do whatever they want because there are no repercussions when they break the law.

[@papayuki3590]

Sue the HOA … if there is a law saying the HOA can not stop you from having a truck in their driveway then sue the HOA and/or recall the board

[@mrmotofy]

You'll likely lose. Laws changing generally only apply to situations AFTER the law passed. So anything in place is grandfathered in

[@Sheva9NJ]

​@mrmotofy not true unless the law specifically states its grandfathered.

[@Andrem022]

The HOA is not breaking the law. It restricts parking at a specific time not all day.

[@mrmotofy]

@@Sheva9NJ Incorrect as described in the vid other case law can apply, and likely has

[@alperdue2704]

@@mrmotofyExcept HOA regulations are not actual laws. They are at most a civil contract.

[@A3Kr0n]

Before I bought my house I made sure it wasn't in a HOA. Those are run by insane entitled brats.

[@phyniseconner2011]

I'm wondering why HOA's are still a thing with all the horror stories they create for residents. Buying a property that you have lil to zero control over looks like it only appeals to persons who can't think for themselves & need/prefer strict rules to govern them...that always backfires. 🤷‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤣

[@vickieskinn9641]

Probably

[@patrickperry6945]

I bought my current house partly because there was no HOA. Some organization came along later to try to enact an HOA. That went nowhere. When I was a 9yo kid my dad tried to form an HOA. He was into controlling other people. It wouldn’t have affected me. But thankfully for the residents there it went nowhere. My dad was a weasel.

[@phyniseconner2011]

@@patrickperry6945 🤣😂

[@stevec3526]

This HOA is going to get sued.

[@jvees7916]

@@stevec3526 they all have law firms

[@tcpnetworks]

Oah absolutely - just for the fun of it.

[@thebluestig2654]

Either run against the HOA president, or start handing out fines to them. In my experience, nobody on the controlling board of an HOA is ever squeaky clean, they're all breaking their own rules. Turnabout is fair play.

[@fredcory2686]

Was literally the first requirement when I was shopping for my current home - NO HOA, No restrictive covenants.

[@FreckledOne-d2e]

What a ridiculous rule. As long as the truck fits in the driveway and doesn‘t block the sidewalk, there shouldn‘t be an issue.

[@veganpotterthevegan]

The HOA shouldn't be doing that. The government needs to regulate snowflakes that need a ginormous ego truck to carry a kid with a truck bed loaded with 2 soccer balls

[@chazman4461]

@@veganpotterthevegan Why do you not do all us a favor and move to Europe.

[@veganpotterthevegan]

@@chazman4461 because I don't run away from problems like a snowflake

[@greggbuker3414]

@@veganpottertheveganoh my the Hamashole has spoken. Long live the tyrant. Did you apply for a job in Xidens regime. He wants to ban all sorts of stuff like you, you’ll fit right in.

[@phillipsheppard5361]

@@veganpottertheveganYeah, more Government intervention always solves everything. 😂

[@JoeR203]

My HOA sucks too. At the meetings they always say they have over $400,000 in reserves, yet they want to hike the HOA fees so they'll have money "just in case". They pay a security company $28,000 a year to have a guy who barely speaks English walk around 3 days a week from 1pm-9pm, and hand out violation notices for cars being parked incorrectly or not having their parking pass hanging from the rear view mirror. He gave me one for that because my mirror fell off the windshield and I placed the tag on the dash so he can easily read it when he made his rounds. But because it wasn't hanging on the mirror, I got a warning. He's not here to police the property for the residents, he's here to police the residents for the property. Any crime that happens will happen after 9pm so it's pointless to even pay $28,000 a year for 24 hours a week of "security".

[@ThiKu]

The reserves are to repair things like sewer etc that come with massive bills. Trust me you want the HOA to have that money saved. Or you get the bill along with your neighbours.

[@JoeR203]

@@ThiKu I'd rather go the "One and done" route rather than keep paying more every month indefinitely, in anticipation of something that "might" happen. My HOA board focuses on stupid crap like painting lines in the parking lots and hiring exterminators because someone saw a couple of Rat Snakes. The property has wooded areas on three sides. You're never going to get rid of the wildlife. What really sucks for me is, I have to share the water bill with the other 15 units in my building because the units aren't metered individually. So I'm paying for water being used by units that have 2-6 people living in them. As soon as I find a house that fits my needs, I'm listing my condo for sale.

[@jameswest9261]

That guy is just a revenue agent for the HOA board. Are you sure he doesn't have a quota that he has to meet? What is the yearly income from these violations of the HOA's policy's.

[@MrMdynamike]

Kinda need that mirror though

[@kvnyang312]

😂, that’s why when I was looking for a home…I told my realtor to TAKE OFF EVERY HOME THAT WAS IN A HOA run setting. I’m not going to be told what I can and can’t do on my own property. No drama and peace of mind is more important to me.

[@bobberguy1]

If a person is dumb enough to purchase in HOA they are dumb enough to accept covenants.

[@YellowBrickFloyd]

Conformity and control by the will of the few against the many. What's next? No kids playing? No bicycles? No motorcycles, no gas lawnmowers or leaf bkowers? No BBQ grills? No dogs? No young people, No minorities?

[@c750cx]

“No kids playing” is pretty close to a reality in some. I’ve heard of HOAs that don’t allow, basketball hoops, trampolines, and any sort of above ground pool.🤦‍♂️ Some other notable ones: -Can’t work on a vehicle in your driveway. -Can’t leave garage door open - have to have garbage cans placed out of view - garbage cans must be brought back from the street by a certain time The list goes on and on

[@petersimpson633]

Just 'No'

[@CoolChannelName]

Plenty of parks do not allow children, no pets, no fences, no rv's, no garbage fires, no guest for more than 2 weeks, parking restrictions, building restrictions.

[@CoolChannelName]

I don't understand why you haven't created your own lawless HOA wherein anyone can do anything they want at any hour of the day.

[@sagezerrick1239]

@@YellowBrickFloyd thankfully, living in a HOA is a voluntary decision that you can make for yourself. I’ll give you some credit, at least you have the critical thinking skills to knowingly avoid a situation in which you wouldn’t thrive, unlike the subject of this story who seems to make poor choices and then complain about them.

[@shawnbegay7220]

Hmmm, does the HOA own that fenced-in lot?

[@jonathanmccartney9752]

Was just going to post the same thing bet thay do

[@DestroyerOfWombs]

I wonder if the HOA, it’s employees, family or friends own that parking lot they all have to pay for…

[@myfrestuff3453]

Florida never misses an opportunity to Florida.

[@MrUbiquitousTech]

Why would any rational person live in an HOA in the first place? So bizarre.

[@AladeenZ32]

Who in their right mind would buy a house in an HOA neighborhood?

[@magnumxlpi]

Most neighborhoods are unless you live in the middle of nowhere

[@wannabetrucker7475]

​@@magnumxlpi really? Must be a fla thing...not as ubiquitous in ala

[@RTDice11]

80% of new builds in America are in an HOA. For most first-time buyers, either you get an HOA or you pay rent.

[@fashiondiva6972]

@@wannabetrucker7475you answered your own question🙄

[@margaretdimick2096]

I'm in Upstate NY and HOAs are rare here. Someone tried to start one in my neighborhood (most houses built before 1970) a few years ago. It didn't go well.

[@managingmonasmoula9811]

HOA’s are nightmares to deal with. It’s crazy! I’d never own a home again in an HOA. Not ever.

[@BG-bx4ey]

They're a nighmare to run as well. Imagine trying to answer to 100 Karens who don't want pickup trucks in their neighbors' driveways... There is nothing wrong with HOA's aside from the fact that they attract bad neighbors.

[@concernedcitizen2031]

HOA's are why I rent and do not own. When I do eventually own it will be on a piece of property where I own 100 acres on each side of me and nobody is going to tell me what the fuck to do .

[@managingmonasmoula9811]

@@concernedcitizen2031 Very cool! That is the way to go. HOA’s are just entities that dictate to home owners what they can or cannot do. I’ve even heard of some HOA’s that demand homeowners leave their garage door open at all times. Sick, just sick. I moved away from the last HOA after they kept fining me me for any little thing they did not like. It was so awful, I hated it. I sold my house 60 days later and never looked back.

[@DavidMorgan-gg7ic]

​@@BG-bx4eyall Hoa's should be stripped of most of their regulations. The only thing they should be able to enforce is that you maintain your property.

[@danthompson6067]

I don't understand why any HOA would ban parking for an owners personal vehicles in their driveway. Given the long standing buying patterns of car and truck buyers, this type of restriction would reduce the value of homes to new purchasers.

[@bobroberts2371]

The HOA rule in this vid was written in the 70's when pickup trucks were work vehicles.

[@patrickwhelan5703]

They're going for that white bread-mayo look where everything is the same.

[@BG-bx4ey]

It was an old rule from before people had pickups as personal vehicles. However, the reason it still exists is because the neighborhood is made up of Karen McCrapbuckets that get off on shitting on their neighbors. I was running my HOA for the last 3 years, trust me. The people do have a voice, but sadly, they suck.

[@Mike-01234]

@@BG-bx4ey I have lived in non HOA's several homes weeds are overgrown broken glass in the streets, Graffiti sprayed on walls. Just a fact that HOA's have a higher return on investment of a home.

[@RaunchyLemon]

​@@Mike-01234So you moved into the ghetto and believe an HOA will save you? Thats pathetic and explains why you love HOAs. Once again, they were created to stop black people from buying houses near white people, you HATE black hoods and SIMP for white HOAs.

[@fauxque5057]

My Parents home owners association had the rule about not parking boats, RVs, campers, commercial vehicles, or pickups in the driveway. The bylaws had no mention about parking in the street, the city and county both allowed parking in the street. So my dad parked his pick up in the street. They threw a fit. If the road was owned and maintained by the association they have a right to prevent parking on the street but since the roads and drainage was maintained by the County there was nothing they could do about it. After a couple of months they broke down and allowed pickups to be parked in the driveway.

[@drewferd2720]

Make HOAs illegal

[@AV-sw7bj]

Class action lawsuit against the HOA

[@ronbelanger4113]

What a joke, is no one supposed to work for a living in that development!

[@TheVilouboy]

No, that’s not what they are saying! For a Half Ton, I don’t see a problem, but it’s when your neighbors bring their 3/4 or 1 Ton duallys and their wheels CONSTANTLY extend PAST their driveway onto their neighbors lawn. OR, The bed (to include the hitch) sticks out into the sidewalk. AVG. DRIVEWAY LENGTH (18 - 20 feet) AVG. LENGHT of a 3/4 or 1 TON TRUCK (21.35 or 21.4 feet) See the problem?

[@HobbitHobbit]

HOAs aren't necessarily out of control but there are exceptions. Despite The Meadows attempt to shield themselves under Kaufman, it wouldn't hold up in court. 1. HOAs may pass rules and regulations that do not conflict with federal, state, and local laws and ordinances 2. HOAs may, in certains cases, make rules that have greater restriction, i.e. the city allows lawn mowing between 7 am - sunset, an HOA may pass a restriction of 8 am - 5 pm 3. HOAs must comply with all federal, state, and local laws. A private community is not exempt. In this case, the HOA officers may have received incorrect guidance. Should residents file a suit against the HOA, they would likely prevail and could recover damages for themselves and the HOA if it is determined the elected / appointed officers failed in their fiduciary duty. While unlikely, they could be charged criminally. 4. The news report stated that the HOA has entered resident's properties to affix letters, warning, and towing of vehicles. This is illegal, regardless of any C&R or bylaw. Unless a vehicle is derelict, it rarely can be removed. HOAs may fine, in accordance with federal, state, local, and HOA regulations but may not enter the property. This HOA should cease and desist entering any property for such reason; certified mail has a purpose. The takeaway is that the HOA officers likely need training. HOA boards are a community of volunteers and often seek advice from property management companies. Sadly, many property managers are under trained, overworked, and can be bonused on up sales (mailers, notices, legal counsel, fines, etc.).

[@uncletoby-]

I do have to say, the oversized van has no business parking in a private drive as it would be unsightly. But pick up trucks, if kept presentable like the ones in this video should definitely be allowed to be parked in their driveways. Additionally, if an HOA, as in this case, does not allow residents to park their pick up trucks in their own driveway. That HOA should be made responsible for providing a reasonably distanced secure parking area for those vehicles and provide it to the residents free of charge. An HOA collects enough monthly to make that happen. No special assessments allowed for maintaining that parking facility. It is fully the HOA’s financial responsibility.

[@quincybirwood2629]

All those folks with trucks should get on the board of the HOA and change the rules in their favor.

[@dealerslicenseops]

The state order supercedes any HOA. tell them to pound sand and lawyer up

[@Omar_Zazzle]

HOA's are run by Gods and Karens.

[@Timbrock1000]

But if their pickups are towed away, how will they get to court?

[@BG-bx4ey]

​@Timbrock1000 I don't think that auto theft is a valid legal defense.

[@foxtrotwolf6081]

That's right. They can walk to court or drive their neighborhood electric vehicle from the golf course.

[@reginabillotti]

​@@Timbrock1000rent a car, get a taxi, use public transportation, whatever. How is that even a question?

[@Grayald]

So the HOA is breaking the law? Seems simple. HOA policies don't supersede the law.

[@ericbailey6779]

The law doesn't work that way. Congress can't retroactively make a law that changes a contract that has already been signed and was legal at the time. The same way they can't make a crime that applies to deeds done before the law was signed.

[@shawnstephens1251]

@@ericbailey6779 Yes they can. A change in law can impair a contract with the only exception being that property cannot be confiscated.

[@CaptRohmer]

Towing someone’s vehicle from their house…. What? Absurd

[@claycoates5056]

GRAND THEFT AUTO

[@tomoguisuru]

You'd be lucky if that's all the HOA does. They can put a lean on your home and sell if from under you. HOAs are the closest things you can get to a dictatorship in the USA

[@kcufelgoog3225]

Its their law. Just comply

[@CaptRohmer]

@@kcufelgoog3225 The law that explicitly forbids HOA’s from doing this? 🤔

[@davidharris9077]

When you buy a house within an HOA, you are given a copy of the rules to READ and sign. If you don't agree with the rules, don't live there. It's as simple as that. Don't sign saying that you'll abide by the rules, then cry about it later. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

[@JeffDeWitt]

Time to get the lawyers involved. The HOA is violating state law, and if they tow anyone's vehicle they and the tow truck operator are guilty of auto theft and should be prosecuted.

[@None-ef6nf]

It appears that the HOA is not violating the law. Unless the HOA bylaws include the Kaufman Language, the bylaws are governed by the law in effect at the time they were originally written.

[@oregonpundit8278]

HOA should be outlawed.

[@donniethesportsguy893]

Sue the HOA

[@TheCaptainSplatter]

I imagine that's the next course of action.

[@tboneforreal]

They just explained to you why you can't. The HOA contract does not contain Kaufman language “as amended from time to time”, so the law does not apply retroactively to HOAs that don't have that language in them. Therefore the HOA is not violating the law so you have no basis to sue.

[@donniethesportsguy893]

@@tboneforreal you can sue for anything it’s still up for interpretation or are you a lawyer?

[@krazykozey2259]

F that. I'd be questioning who is also profiting off that lot. Shady af.

[@smartwatchonpluto]

Hoa presidents kid probably

[@tech4life884]

The Meadows is violating state laws not allowing this.

[@ekop1778]

500 DOLLARS JUST TO PARK FOR A YR? MY HOME INSURNCE IS THAT MUCH A YR UP WHERE I AM

[@JeanPierreWhite]

According to the video because the statue does not include "Kaufmann Language" it does not have to comply with laws made after the HOA documents are drafted. Essentially they can apply old laws and ignore new laws. Given this why would any agreement include Kaufmann language, it seems advantageous to not have it so you can act outside the law if you want to. The HOA have found a legal way to defy the new law. Presumably a case will need to be brought against them to force them to change the statute to comply with the new law.

[@naf2579]

Time for those homeowners to get involved in the board and make changes.

[@user-tb2jy9lu3d]

That entire neighborhood should be suing the HOA. What we need are nationwide laws outlawing HOAs completely. Anyone violating that law and trying to force irrelevant 'rules' onto property owners should be sentenced to prison.

[@out4rvnge930]

HOAs should be illegal.

[@azheatsource]

We had a similar problem a few years back, some ole boy went to the HOA meeting and shot the shit out of a bunch of them. Things became much clearer after that.

[@smileychess]

I've always wondered why this doesn't happen more often.

[@johnlocke_1]

​@smileychess the majority of people are weak.

[@smileychess]

@@johnlocke_1 - Well, the majority of people have too much to lose to go to prison over a battle like this. I’m just surprised there aren’t more lunatics willing to pew pew their problems away.

[@johnlocke_1]

@@smileychess I used to think the same, but I genuinely believe we have been misled by the amount of crazies in the U.S

[@patrickperry6945]

Boy!? That’s harsh!

[@fishmac2036]

HOAs are nothing more than board Karens

[@DatzTragicNewPatek]

This seems like a case where the HAO head manager is either in kahoots with the parking lot that charges $500 per year. Or he is the only person in that entire neighborhood who hates pickup trucks and is on a power trip.

[@rageinbull]

Reporters need to start naming the HOA officers on these stories. Call them out so their families and coworkers know who they are.

[@Theendofeverything7036]

This is BS. How is it a HOA has more power than a governor? Only in Florida…..you buy property and then you are unable to live your dam life without someone tapping you on the shoulder saying “no, no, no you can’t do that”.

[@michaelmalone1624]

Not in republicain florida. They believe in the NAZI state.

[@nancyeaton731]

You read the rules before signing on the dotted line. There is no “and then” if you don’t do your own due diligence or think you can make your own rules. That’s the HOA way.

[@c750cx]

HOAs are in every state.

[@thatoneguy94512]

Only in Florida? Tell us you don't get around or know what you're talking about without telling us 😂

[@1972Ray]

Only in Florida? HOA's are everywhere.

[@xekimaneru5994]

Why would you move somewhere where someone else can tell you what to do on your own property

[@CoolChannelName]

You're gonna need a permit for that shed. The City said.

[@AKAT1980]

The point Cool is trying to make is, you really don't own the land or house you're living in.😂

[@CoolChannelName]

@@AKAT1980 All properties are registered with the State and occupied under that premise. Ultimately the people in this video are indeed asking the State to govern their lives.

[@AKAT1980]

@CoolChannelName I understand all of that but unless you paid cash or paid your home off you don't own it. In addition to that you can't own land at all in this country, you rent it.

[@patrickperry6945]

When I was looking for my current house. The realtor was peddling a particular house that apparently had an HOA comprised of a board of one guy and his wife. It was crazy. Basically you didn’t own anything on the outside of your house. You had to sign an agreement that would give this couple total control of the outside of your house and your property. I can’t believe anyone would buy a house in that neighborhood. But I guess people did.

[@KrazyKajun602]

Simple, don't move into a HOA neighborhood.

[@crucial0072]

Disband the HOA.

[@rjb2626]

Go to one of the hoa meetings. If there is mayority of owners, they have to delete that rule. Don't tell me there is no democracy in The land of the free???

[@eurobimmer635]

if you bought a house that has an HOA you have ZERO rights to complain, if you were stupid enough to buy it you now have to live with the rules.

[@molskimauler]

That's what you get with HOA's.

[@AC-cg6gz]

I bet the hoa has a part in the pay to park lot

[@arribaficationwineho32]

File suit against the HOA

[@Locknerd]

Start letting them tow. File a early winnable lawsuit then bankrupt the hoa

[@cdnrednek1027]

If I own a house, I ll park whatever vehicle I own on my property. No HOA will ever tell me what vehicle I can park on my property. Land of the free, but only if your HOA agrees with you.

[@bluemut55]

I was an HOA president. Residents insisted on no advertising on vehicles. One woman had a company car with a tel.# on it. They warned her and threatened to fine her. I argued that they needed to take off any window stickers advertising the universities they had attended. They impeached me. I couldn't be happier. I sold the place and moved to a better community. Before I did, I reported them for hurricane cutting the palm trees. Big fines were issued by the county. "Let's move to Florida and make rules" Vicious and cruel small minded people.

[@smileychess]

What does "hurricane cutting the palm trees" mean?

[@ElsinoreRacer]

​@@smileychess It means he stuck a stick in their spokes.

[@jvees7916]

@@bluemut55 you sound like the type of dude who sits down when he pees

[@bluemut55]

@@jvees7916 Nope, just don't like cruel and abusive people who take joy in creating problems for people. Did I mention the same people would insist that black guests take a shower before entering the swimming pool? Never insisted anyone else do so. I'm more than comfortable in leaving this development. Oh, and it depends on whose home I'm in, if at my house I'm only too happy to sit. In yours I'd gladly risk my aim.

[@jvees7916]

@@bluemut55 the world doesn’t owe you anything it won’t cater to your black ass

[@drivenbyrage5710]

Some people get the slightest bit of authority and it goes straight to their head. Pathetic.

[@chrisharacobb]

Never would live in a HOA ran neighborhood. Can't park in your own driveway cause of type of car you have. $500/ year on top of your mortgage/ taxes is just crazy.

[@walterhorn5567]

Signing up to live in an HOA is like agreeing to have a full-time Karen threatening you about every move you made

[@johncundiss9098]

Stop and think a second. Who owns that parking lot? Member of the HOA?

[@darrtrubb]

Home ownership in Florida is a nightmare for a multitude of reasons.

[@laszlonagy8148]

We have the same situation here in Delray Beach. That Kaufman language... They not just do keep the rules what we had, but made it even more restricted. According to the HOA attorney, if someone challenges it, he will lose the case.

[@thatoneguy94512]

Sounds like an easy win then right? Get off yt and go fix the problem

[@danieldevito6380]

When will people learn that HOAs are a nightmare?

[@aubriellemorgan]

I live in an HOA community in the Tampa area and have no issues. I guess it depends on where you live. This situation in this video is crazy. Hopefully they can get this resolved or move. This is just obnoxious and I wouldn’t want to live here if this is how they are. They will be a nightmare on other issues as well.

[@miketdarnell]

Somebody on the HOA board owns the auxiliary parking lot.

[@cm.5023]

I'm not a fan of HOAs but I don't understand why people buy in one then complain about the rules. There are plenty of non HOA communities in FL.

[@frankwurth5375]

I don't understand why people voluntatily allow things like HOA to even exist in the first place. Why would you submit yourself to another layer of taxes and unnecessary rules?

[@torchjenkins6158]

Why would you live somewhere where they can tell you what to do so intrusively

[@Blue_Collar_Colonizer_1776]

The backbone of America, the blue collar man, gets shit on the most. It's infuriating.

[@jessehickman668]

Oh it’s less about “blight” and more about the fees they make. It’s always about the money when you get down to it.

[@EarthboundMisfit1274]

So I can park my $1500 car but not my $50000 truck? Which one do you think is more appealing to the eye?

[@lour9348]

More like $85000 truck ...

[@EarthboundMisfit1274]

@@lour9348 Nah, I bought it used.

[@user-wp5on2zd1n]

that is so unfair lets hope some justice gets served

[@edburke9473]

HOA lawyers are telling them they can because they are going to get paid no matter what on any law suit

[@Autumnfaery2003]

Is it not time for HOA's to be made illegal? I question the mental ability of those who choose to live in an HOA.

[@subicstationditosailor4053]

Who makes the 500 dollars a month? Check the hoa heads.

[@vulcan2882]

it's a private lot.

[@RonnRicco]

It's $500 a year. Still too much but I bet one of the HOA owns or is getting a kickback from this.

[@vulcan2882]

@@RonnRicco .. that's also a posibility.

[@Normandy1944]

@@RonnRicco As a FL resident it wouldn't be a kickback if you own the lot. Most HOA's own or control much of the land around the development. For instance, my development and the (2) plazas outside it. But they also pay to the HOA for upkeep of the grounds (lawn service, wall care and lighting around the development). So, it's not just homeowners who pay.

[@davidharris9077]

Who cares!! When you buy a house within an HOA, you are given a copy of the rules to READ and sign. If you don't agree with the rules, don't live there. It's as simple as that. Don't sign saying that you'll abide by the rules, then cry about it later. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

[@asp3nsd]

Follow the money. Who owns the lot?

[@generalohu7782]

I smell a lawsuit against any and all HOA’s that pull this.

[@canavanibus]

Most tinyhat comment ever

[@RaunchyLemon]

​@@canavanibus most brain rot comment ever, simping over an HOA is pathetic

[@tboneforreal]

They just explained to you why you can't. The HOA contract does not contain Kaufman language “as amended from time to time”, so the law does not apply retroactively to HOAs that don't have that language in them. Therefore the HOA is not violating the law so you have no basis to sue.

[@generalohu7782]

@@tboneforreal 🤡😂. The law is the law. If they had. Murder someone every Tuesday in the contract that wouldn’t make it legal. So again lawsuit incoming.

[@jmodified]

@@generalohu7782 The law is the law, and law is that without such language the rule is still legal.

[@mikefrost6646]

Neighborhood policies are still subject to the Law…

[@corruption1724]

You have the right to own a pickup and park it in your driveway this is totally out of control.

[@eatsmylifeYT]

Why would a homeowner be prohibited from parking his personal vehicle on his own driveway?

[@patrickwhelan5703]

Because.......Florida

[@audraarndt1824]

Thats what has me all confused. What in the heck.

[@foxtrotwolf6081]

Because the homeowner signed a contract saying they won't between 10 pm and 5 am. I would like the homeowners to tell us why they would agree to such nonsense in the first place.

[@canavanibus]

@@foxtrotwolf6081 they had to move in quick to use the dumper. Read the fine print from the porcelain. Taco Bell wasn't the only lamentation of the day I'm afraid.

[@RaunchyLemon]

​@@patrickwhelan5703 Florida doesnt allow what they did, which is why its illegal

[@johnmaxwell4072]

I live in a gulf coast state (not FL) . No hoa here. This is an upscale, yet still, working class waterfront neighborhood. Houses on my street go from $350k+ (water view) to $1.5M (water front). We have many pickups, a few work trucks and that’s the way it is. People need to make a living and work trucks for many are part of the job. Everyone keeps their homes and lawns in top shape, so live and let live.

[@kevinvitale8980]

I NEVER understood the thinking of banning trucks parked on streets let alone drive.

[@mrpenn4613]

Classism, A lot of contractors drive trucks and HOA's and COA's don't want their areas to look "Trashy" with contract vehicles parked in their neighborhoods. This is just my interpretation after several attempts to get a logical answer from a friend who served on the board of his HOA.

[@davidharris9077]

@@mrpenn4613 SO WHAT!! Trying to understand the rules doesn't matter. When you buy a house within an HOA, you are given a copy of the rules to READ and sign. If you don't agree with the rules, don't live there. It's as simple as that. You don't sign saying that you'll only abide by the rules that you understand or by the rules that make sense to you, you agree to ALL the rules when you sign.

[@davidharris9077]

@@mrpenn4613 SO WHAT!!! When you buy a house within an HOA, you are given a copy of the rules to READ and sign. If you don't agree with the rules, don't live there. It's as simple as that. Don't sign saying that you'll abide by the rules, then cry about it later. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

[@veganpotterthevegan]

​@@mrpenn4613 Contractors should be able to have trucks for work. This guy has a trophy/ego truck that doesn't have a single scratch in the bed

[@mrpenn4613]

@@veganpotterthevegan people should be able to park their vehicles in their driveway. I can almost agree with street parking limits, almost. But not being able to park your daily driver in your driveway, redonkulous

[@Thepriest39]

Ban together and take them to court.

[@Luka_menorykee]

First reasonable thing I ever heard an HOA enforcing. Commercial vehicles as a rule have no reason to stay overnight at residential streets. No reasonable person would want to buy a bus, 18-wheeler or a truck and expect others to pay for it, change legislation or widen streets for their entitlement. It's not reasonable and because you live in a society and not on your private island, you should be reasonable and if necessary have legislation tell unreasonable people what is reasonable. Notice that he could actually enlarge his garage, but he doesn't want to, he thinks that others should finance for his unreasonable decisions and risky investments.

[@triggeringantimaskkarenswi3619]

And who exactly are you to determine that Karen?

[@melvinsmiley5295]

Trucks are more expensive than many cars. You can easily spend $50K for a nice truck. And a work truck just means people are working…let them be! I understand some work trucks are a mess so a compromise would be to let them park work trucks on the side of their homes or in the garage. I am so glad I don’t have a forced HOA.