'Submerged by ocean': How this Indonesian city is being slowly swallowed by the sea | DW News

[@noelmacatangay4011]

Godbless brother Indonesia,.. Love from 🇵🇭🇮🇩

[@AABraun]

Indonesia's very own Venice 😁 may Allah bless Indonesia 🇵🇰❤️🇲🇨

[@susanb4816]

Some of those aquifers have been around for millions of years, not thousands

[@Mr.Youtube_Subscribed]

No decades only

[@eliharp3576]

Excellent report. The subsidence is a significant factor. Thanks 👍

[@abseiduk]

It is 100% subsidence

[@abcddef2112]

Not really excellent it seems like dw making a narrative that the government isn’t doing anything. First is that northern Java was made by sediments from the mountainous south, and constantly changing, hundreds years ago there is another island up north called Muria which merged with Java. It would also merged with Madura if the Dutch did not diverted Bengawan Solo, you could see this in google earth. Because of this nature it is succeptible to erosion which played a bigger role especially in regions around Pekalongan rather than the ground water extraction. Another not highlighted fact is failed water privatisation pushed by IMF after 1998, that explain why the pipe water isnt being built for these communities as it is not profitable and the have to rely on ground water. It certainly exacerbate the condition. Actually some of the dykes and levees were already built around Pekalongan and other northern java, looking similar like in the netherlands although face resistant from environmentalist somehow. Another was the effort to encourage natural sendimentation, those square ponds surrounded by mangroves trees, slightly shot in the video is actually to encourage natural sedimentation and forming new land. It is not a proof the ground is sinking it is an effort to combat it. It is formed by nets or bamboo for sediment capture. After some years where enough sediments were formed, mangroves are planted above it. After a while the square ponds filled up and mangroves are planted, new land is formed. It is called Guludan you can check it online.

[@abcddef2112]

No it is erosion which is the major cause. Those shots of square looking ponds is actually an effort to increase natural sedimentation and to create new land not the effect of subsidence. Built by netting or bamboo, it will eventually fill up from the edge which then planted with mangroves. After a while the pond filled up and fill with mangroves. It is called Guludan you can read about it.

[@jimjones8736]

Yeah except when they make statements about seawater levels rising when the issue is land sinking. It's misleading language.

[@jimjones8736]

@@abseiduk Nah, only about 80%

[@ronisugianto4416]

Java's population is too dense. Imagine 150 million people live in one island. There is no enough space for people to live comfortably. The population growth in this island is really fast. If i could i would have already moved to another island such as borneo, sumatera, or papua but most of us don't have enough resources to begin a new life in a new place.

[@gwlulusancambridgeloh7210]

Emang mau lu pindahin kemana orang2 yg ada di jateng? Mau lu pindahin ke kalimantan yg banjir juga? Hihihi

[@ilhamrj2599]

these issues are serious not only in Pekalongan but in all cities in northern Java. But, it is true Pekalongan situation is the most dire one... It is even worse than Jakarta and Semarang.

[@santanu-io]

Life of some people are so tough 😟

[@carloregalado7751]

and you have these crybabies in the west acting like their life is so tough because some people won't call them in their preferred gender pronoun. SMH.

[@ornachia2489]

You cannot just called Central Java, Central Java is big, this happened in the coast, do your reports correctly!

[@bimokresno]

yup! they should use 'northern central java' because it happened a long the northern coast of central java province.

[@SpicaRigel]

Biasalah, DW kan sering buat berita negative tentang Indo sejak Nickel di ban 😊😂. Masih ngambek mereka 😁😁😁.

[@ornachia2489]

@@SpicaRigel Betul, media sekelas DW pun model pemberitaannya seperti ini, seperti kental politiknya, jadi semakin skeptis sama media luar.

[@christinalynn8143]

A human would think if an area started showing signs it may become uninhabitable that other humans would help to see people get away from there to a more sustainable livable place. Human. Humanity. Humane.

[@jimjones8736]

You mean somewhere like Australia or Europe or America? I offer them contraceptives and less religion.

[@ronisugianto4416]

RIP warga pesisir pekalongan. Ayo pindah ke dataran tinggi. Salam dr wong pemalang.

[@danangandimaulana6130]

Beradaptasi ke tempat baru bukan hal yang mudah, apalagi jika tidak dalam persiapan yang matang.

[@boston1750]

lebih berbahaya lg tinggal di kaki gunung berapi.sdh wajarlah mrk pikirkan nyawanya sendiri.

[@gwlulusancambridgeloh7210]

Ya udah... Kalo gitu pindah ke Eropa... Dimulai dari Yunani dulu... Habis itu, belarus, polandia, Ukraine... Sampai ke english channel tujuan terakhir. Eh, tapi mamarika boleh juga tuh... Harus bersaing dengan Mexico.. Hihihi

[@boonteetan4448]

I visited Java a few times in the 1980's from Jakarta to central province. Some towns/cities along the northern coastline are sinking mainly due to depletion of underground water. It will be a gargantuan task to resettle the mass of people affected. Compounded by gradual rising sea level, large area of Jakarta will be under water in no time. Thus, new capital city being built in Kalimantan has to be expedited..

[@michaelhickman3580]

The mold is probably terrible . God bless them

[@geraldh.8047]

Probably too wet for the mold if it’s flooded every day 😀

[@jadeandmax]

DW very concerned about Indonesia lately and I always said to change their reporter they often reported false information. u can read some of the comments here try to correct some information. 💁‍♀️🏻

[@SpLUrGe85]

Where can we read this. Seems pretty credible as of now.

[@abcddef2112]

@@SpLUrGe85 No the subsidence isn’t manmade, though worsen by it. Northern java is like this because the land itself it is also changing all the time, Muria merging with Java, Madura would as well if the dutch did not diverted Bengawan Solo. This is because the nature of the land itself it is sediments. The major factor why the land is disappearing on northern Java is erosion not ground water pumping.

[@masonev]

The ending of this video editing is weird and rush.

[@ndorobei4391]

That's ok. Only affected 8 thousands people. And Java population is 150 millions people

[@Jrad117]

I’m pretty sure all Islands will be the first to go. The damage is already done it’s only a matter of time.

[@michaelconroy9975]

Oceans and seas have been rising for 10s of 1000s of years, tribes all around the world have passed song and story for this event for at least ten to fourteen thousand years.. Oceans and seas have risen 120 metres in the last twelve thousand years. A island in Australia was called kangaroo island and aborinals would hunt on this thousand ten thousand years ago by walking there, now the water is a hundred metres deep and they can not walk there.....end of ice age my friend you can't stop it and we didint start it

[@Jrad117]

@@michaelconroy9975 I like that a lot thank you sir.

[@abcddef2112]

Actually in the video as you can see square looking ponds by the coast, is actually an effort to increase sedimentation. It is build by netting or bamboo, which then planted with mangroves from the edge. After a while new land is formed, it is called guludan. It is not as the video implied apocalypse caused bt ground water pumping.

[@Jrad117]

@@abcddef2112 I see, very interesting indeed thank you.

[@jimjones8736]

Islands sink, islands grow. It's called plate-tectonics. Indonesia (Sumatra, Java, Bali, Sumba, Flores, Timor) lies on a subduction zone of the Indian plate. That's why you have so many volcanoes. This means those islands are very tectonically active. They will sink and grow relatively quickly, maybe even faster than due to subsidence or global warming.

[@kevinkurniawan3292]

So according to the thumbnail, the whole province is under water, now?

[@railfan_neon]

Stop pumping groundwater and use desalination. Losing such fertile precious land to subsidence isn't a good thing

[@notraceyln.t.l5233]

This is sad 😢😢😢. The bible says in the last days 1/3 of the land will submerge in water. Save your children Oh Lord. They are banking on You. 🙏🙏🙏

[@abdul_malik45]

1:24. have fun kid!

[@alickak8346]

So sad to see Indonesia disappearing..

[@incognitoadventure]

but why are they not leaving that place? their condition is terrible..

Land is sinking or rising on the tectonic plates and erosion is also affecting the niveau that´s it!

[@anggarakasihdewiyanti6775]

Sea level rise will have a significant impact on Indonesia as an archipelagic country especially on small islands.

[@rimaskautsar4058]

now it's becoming international issue, I hope the Provincial Government and Central Government taking more serious effort to deal with this problem

[@yvonnamit7772]

Government ,Dry up the sea ,turn it to land again.

[@markgarin6355]

If there is serious subsidence, 'global warming' isn't the issue and it's been happening for a while.

[@Azamat421]

Wrong

[@Normalaatsra]

It's the city where there's a district called 'Gamer'.

[@invisibleink7379]

Let it like many other parts of del 🌍

[@proopuntri]

Saudi Arabia could be helping with water desalinization plants.

[@hendrikhardeman9832]

desalinization --> desalination

[@unkown7277]

dutch should know better

[@rajs7876]

This is a gross Dutch legacy and they should now help with all their technology

[@SpLUrGe85]

I think java needs to take responsibility for draining their Aquafer

[@nerdyguy5287]

The way the news anchor pronounce 'Pekalongan' is so cringe 😬

[@jimjones8736]

Awful report. Utter nonsense. Java is in fact sinking because of the weight of its insane population of 150 million and population density of over 1100 per square km.

[@anaskhoiri3653]

People blame semarang major instead central java governor because him backup by largest party PDIP and oposition called desert lizard by their buzzer cyber army

[@gwlulusancambridgeloh7210]

Cie cie... Pendukung mak banteng ngamuk... Sarang PKI... hihihi

[@abcddef2112]

Great DW removing scientific discussion in the comment.

[@dangeroustoman]

Question = with all the volcanoes going off, all that lava has to come from somewhere. So that tells me that somewhere in the world has to sink.

[@ricardoxavier827]

tectonic plates are eat by the planet, and than the planet poop lava.

[@kubli365]

Yeah as Ricardo said, material constantly submerges and rises along tectonic plate boundaries. Mountain ranges and volcanoes come from material being pushed up as denser material sinks below them.

[@1356113561]

Thats life

[@makedredd299]

Sea water levels will rise around the world. Because all the arctic ice in north and south poles are melting in chunks, as big as small countries. 🧊 ☀️ 🌊 🌊 🌊

[@takuro-chan7747]

But it will be just several centimeters according to the IPCC report. Land subsidence should be much bigger cause.

[@jimurrata6785]

Arctic ice isn't an issue. It is already floating in the ocean, not on land as Antarctica. But warming oceans also expand in volume.

[@julianshepherd2038]

It's the end of the world as we know it.

[@SpicaRigel]

😂😂😂 another DW hit piece on Indonesia. Germany is certainly mad that Indonesia ban it's raw mineral export to for German industry 😂😂😂. Sorry Germany, what ever negative news about Indonesia you churn out it will not stop Indonesia from developing and use it's own resources for its own prosperity instead of selling it raw to countries like Germany. PS: my family lives in Pekalongan and this problem is currently being tackle by both the central and local government 😊😇🙏.

[@SpLUrGe85]

What does this have to with Germany. Did you miss the video of the sinking town? That’s a man made disaster?

[@SpLUrGe85]

This is irresponsible use of water, no other country cares, but if the people of Indonesia wants to screw over each other that’s their call. I’m glad I don’t live there

[@krustenkaese3905]

It is really sad to see that you are so subsceptible to conspiracy-theories and that you think this report has anything to do with the export ban. This report is just one of many thousands that report about negative and positive things all over the world. Each time there is report about a thing that can be interpreted as bad there are some people from that country - usually hardline nationalists (idk if that applies to you) - that misinterpret it as an coordinated attack on their country and a conspiracy against their people. The freedom of press in Germany is very high compared to others countries so you may be overwhelmed by all the honest reporting that doesn't has any consideration for the feelings of people, since they are obliged to paint an accurate picture of what is going on. Indonesian miners also made profits when selling the minerals in raw form to other countries but now in the future they may not be making more profit by selling to Indonesians but atleast in theory it still is better for the country as a whole. But the way it was before that wasn't bad for them either and of course at the moment the German industry is constantly making new profit records so it is not seen as a problem here and almost nobody in Germany knows about the export ban anyway. So i just hope i could make it a bit easier for you to understand why this kind of reporting is not there to make your country look bad but in fact it's just a result of the culture of journalism that is present in Germany and many other countries around the world.

[@noelmacatangay4011]

Im really wondering why did these thing happens in Java island Indonesia...they were visited by calamity one after another....Indonesia is big so they better spread their population to different part of Indonesia to allow Java have some breathe... It is not good for the island and its residence to live this way,when they have other options to do so...

[@dmarl1042]

There's a saying in Javanese: Mangan ora mangan sing penting kumpul. It loosely means ones must remain together even if ones can't eat. It doesn't explain everything, but that's partly why most Javanese stay put.

[@SpicaRigel]

Hahaha i think Philippines should worry about their own pathetic country and it's rudimentary infrastructure rather than bussy putting their noses on Indonesia 😊

[@noelmacatangay4011]

Dian Ardiansyah i didn’t mean anything against your country...in fact we consider you as our brother so please don’t take it bad...

[@miragepoppies]

Also humans are 98% water so we are literally developing groundwater into more and more human beings that are compacted so tightly, glad im not the only one going ohh thats why

[@BMSMusic1]

Solution : Space Travel find new planet 😁

[@lbrlrsfdj8895]

Ironic they kicked out the dutch last century. They could have helped in this instance.

[@minyaksayur]

it's the same reasoning the dutch kicked out Germany in world war 2. maybe the dutch would prefer Germany to "help" them.

[@joost4941]

The Dutch were aware that this area was prone to flooding tho.. and had already build some small dikes to prevent flooding for the Dutch habitants. This was all 400 years ago

[@MrFlatage]

Yea that sounds like a US 'could have' in Kabul. Or Yes we can but ... No we didn't. More then ironic but you invoked the Dutch on this. Dutch minister Melanie Schultz van Haegen presented the draft version of the 1400 page Dutch-Indonesian National Capital Integrated Coastal Development (NCICD) master plan in Jakarta on April 2. First thing Indonesia did was ask the Dutch for help. Plans in place, boots on the ground and projects starting construction. Ofcourse they are aware of their past with Indonesia so they called it the 'Master Plan'. Business is booming for the Dutch.

[@ornachia2489]

The Ironic things in here is European always think that they help others but what really happened is otherwise.

[@apa100]

Blame themselves they can stop using so much water for rise agriculture start grow potatoes instead