REVIEW: Dual SVS PB-3000 and SB-3000 Subwoofers! THESE ARE NOT NORMAL!

[@dennisjweber5093]

I'm sitting here debating PB 200 vs PB 3000......you just convinced me. Now I'm anxiously awaiting the delivery of a PB 3000. Thanks

[@poltergeise2340]

How does the one sound? I would love to go dual but price is out of my reach.

[@CoomerGremlinDGGfan]

How did you like it?

[@michael-4k4000]

Wow we’re waiting for a response

[@michael-4k4000]

Jerry what about Bose 10” sealed subwoofers? Me like

[@loganf6517]

I recently just made the same choice you recommended. I picked dual PB3000s over the PB16-Ultra. I agree that duals are just that important.

[@cjt74]

Just upgraded from 3 PB 1000’s to dual PB 3000’s a week ago. After dialing them in with my mini dsp all I can say is wow!!! Potent is the perfect word to describe these. The 1000’s were great but these are in a different category. Thanks for your thorough review and information on these.

[@show2ime]

I have the ultra sb 3000 and it is a straight monster. better defined bass than 2 ported subs I had. It is breath taking literally

[@torqueofthedevil8145]

I absolutely love that this is your system in an RV, most can't compete with this set up at home

[@PaulHollywoodLife]

I just bought dual PB 3000's a few weeks ago.... I am still playing with them, but they are awesome, really awesome. The whole space is more than uniform in bass and they kick and never sound stressed. Deep and full sound. The app tipped me over on these and if you have the budget get them. App works great and easy to dial in from your listening position. I felt like they were more expensive than some alternatives, but the have the latest Technology! Customer service and Warranty.

[@JemZart]

I just ordered a pair of 3000's. Reviews like yours helped me make the call. I had just purchased the 2000 pro's and they were so awesome that I knew the 3000's would be what I need. The 2000's were meant to be a place holder since I couldn't afford what I wanted. Thing is they were so amazing that I realized I was closer than I thought and if I upgraded now I could have the sound I needed. First time I upgrade because something was awesome...lol. I always upgrade when something seems lacking, this time it was because something was so good, I got inspired to go higher. Great review, thanks for painting the picture of these. Can't wait til the 29th when mine arrive. I got the isolation feet too for them so that just kicked it over the top for me. Thanks again!!

[@marknelson801]

I just love SVS and the level of commitment to the industry and customer. I might have to get the 3000s I have a friend wanting to buy my PC2000s in my small setup.

[@gibluap]

No might! Do!

[@radz3191]

I just got the 3000s in a few days ago. Definitely enjoying them more and more each time I listen. Amazing punch for the money. Great review, love the channel.

[@JohnErikjohansson]

is it worth saving some money with going with SB3000 over the 4000 series?

[@jattposti8015]

@@JohnErikjohansson cheap ass

[@Joldrath]

❤ you are awesome bro. I got the sb16 ultra.. but I am having probably.. the same issues with it as you. I find it uncomfortable to listen to in longer periods of time, so I find myself switching it off. So the pb3000, yup. It's go time. 🥳

[@nflisrigged1395]

I got a pb1000 10 inch 300 watt SVS about 7 months ago ... It still blows me away. The bass is so refined and tight With a PUNCH ! only half way turn up. Only 500 bucks Seems like a lot of money to me at first but the quality and sound is JL w7 car bass levels Blur vision These subs NOT for kids who do not have some restrained.... You can SHAKE your house APART!

[@Subwoofer101]

Double up, it's even more impressive! The PB-1000 is no light weight!!

[@WartyWarthogHogger]

Yea the 16 ultra, if it's an old house, can most likely make it collapse.

[@ben380z]

How big of room is urs in ?

[@robdelgado-f5v]

Hi not sure if your familiar with the polk audio psw 505 that's what I have now. Just ordered a pb3000 will there be a big difference in bass? I am planning on going duels with pb3000

[@Subwoofer101]

Yes, if you don't notice the difference, I have no business running this channel!! It will be deeper, and more kick. Because of how room correction adjusts deep bass subwoofers, you're going to want to run more gain than room correction would suggest. You'll want to go through my Bass hack series, so you can optimize everything. Mixing subs is not optimal, and while you'll hear quite a difference between the subs, you won't be able to truly hear everything that the PB-3000 is capable of until you have two of them. I went through the same thing mixing and matching with the PB-16 Ultra. Honestly, I was relatively underwhelmed until the second one came in. When I had two of them, and no other subwoofer in the mix, it's the best bass I've ever heard. The PB-3000's/PB-4000's are nearly identical in explosiveness, which makes the PB-3000 a pretty awesome subwoofer. The only subwoofer I've heard that clearly outperforms it is the PB-16 Ultra. You can run them both together, and it will be better than a single, but it's handicapping the PB-3000. Once you get the second one, you'll see what I mean. Quite a step up.

[@robdelgado-f5v]

@@Subwoofer101 Thanks man

[@OOnti-dz4jd]

I love my SB2000. The base is strong even at low volumes. I’m planning to add an other. My system will be a 3.2.2.

[@onebadbearonebadbear3496]

Thanks, just ordered a pair of pb 3000 last night. I'm chomping at the bit now for the. To arrive. I have never personally heard any svs. I'm moving up from dual Bic America f-12s.

[@pjlet5177]

If you are a Audiophile the SB 3000 without ur question is more spot n Accurate Bass for Music. Being sealed it is sealed it is a bit quicker , for movies for sure the ported, and btw the ported 3000 Is still verygood for music ,better then most.

[@veichelis]

you mean better THAN most

[@afrog2666]

AN audiophile.. Better THAN* First grade english..

[@JesterHammer]

I have a paradigm Pw-2200. Been excellent to me for 22 years now. How better this svs can be? Worth upgrading?

[@Subwoofer101]

I'd say definitely. Prioritize dual matching subwoofers. Rather than 1 PB-3000, dual PB-2000 Pro's would be better overall. That said, dual PB-3000's are my favorite subwoofers all around. Only dual PB-16 Ultras outshine them audibly, at a cost, size, and weight premium. The difference in technology for subwoofers in recent years is substantial. Definitely a deeper sound. I'm an affiliate, so if you follow my link in the video description, I could potentially see a commission, but my recommendation would be the same regardless. Once you have them, my Bass Hack Video Series will help you get the most out of them. Particularly the crossover hack, distance hack, gain hack, and dialing in subwoofers by ear. The difference, especially after following my hack recommendations, should be nothing short undeniable and substantial.

[@lawrence09151]

Going deep and sounding deep is negated if you EQ flat flat right?. I also apply a house curve low shelf filter so all of mine have a gradual boost from 80Hz downward.

[@Hubs153]

Finally got the second pb-3000! Any advice on setting up would be greatly appreciated. The issue is that my denon receiver forces me to lower the volume on the subs almost completely down in order to use the automatic calibration. Wondering how you get around this and how much higher you crank the db’s beyond what the calibration tells you?

[@reggieburris]

Just got my Dual PB-3000s today. Used the upgrade from my Dual PB-2000 Pros. The 2000 Pros were nice but the 3000s sound way better. Much deeper, less chuffing due to more power being delivered. Thanks again for your measured posts. You don’t post much but I look forward to your posts because they are substantive without fluff.

[@MicD1]

I'm more of a sealed guy but how do you find the SB3000 for movies vs the PB?

[@ericmcginnis9413]

I hope to get one of these one day thanks for your review. Probably the most in depth review I have seen!

[@Subwoofer101]

Thanks! These are special subs, they really are impressive.

[@dneurona]

What's your advice on dual SB-2000's vs single SB-3000? I have a 1,400 ft3 room. (12.5 x 14.5 ft) I'll be using them for music and movies. Thanks!

[@sandman7167]

I guess he never wanted to answer you.

[@SANDEEPSINGH_9]

I started my audio journey with Bic America’s dual PL-300s, then upgraded to SVS’s dual PB-1000 Pro, followed by dual PB-2000 Pro, and now I’m running dual PB-3000s. Each transition brought noticeable improvements, especially in clarity and impact. With each step up in the SVS lineup, I’ve experienced cleaner, more powerful bass that can be pushed further without distortion. The SVS subs truly excel in delivering both depth and precision, especially when you move into their higher series.

[@tonchido]

Hi,talking about down firing and front firing subs does it concerns the driver or the port?

[@robscorner7012]

I have been wanting to upgrade my PB-2000 for some time now, and had been waiting (and frankly holding out) for the PB-3000 to come out to exercise my upgrade option. Since I still feel that the pricing missed the mark, I opted to sell instead, and went with the HSU VTF-15H MK2. I really enjoy your channel, and would love to see you able to get some affiliations or review deals set up with other brands, as I feel it's mostly become an SVS channel now (understandable from a cost standpoint). It'd really be great if you were able to check out, review, measure, and compare some models from HSU, PSA, RSL, or Rythmik in addition to the SVS line. I love the SVS products, and the sound, build quality, and customer service are all top notch, but I feel it now comes with too high of a premium (or in this case, retail location markup)... and I just couldn't bring myself to overpay (just my opinion) out of a sense of brand loyalty. It's good to know that brand loyalists will still be getting an awesome product though. Keep up the good content! P.S. that RV is AWESOME!!! lol

[@flashhog01]

How does the HSU VTF-15H compare to the SVS pb-2000? Glad you made the switch?

[@robscorner7012]

@@flashhog01 my VTF-15H MK2 is in a totally different league than my PB-2000 was. The output is higher at every frequency and it plays lower. It's a huge box though for sure lol. The CEA 2010 output numbers are actually closer to the PB-4000 than they are the PB-2000. I am very glad that I made the swap.

[@dayonerecoverdub3626]

I actually did the same thing nearly I had dual pb12-nsd that I got on black Friday 2 years ago and have had sb12-nsd and a pb1000 they were great subs and 2 of them for 1000 was a incredible deal but I wanted more and was going to get the pb3000 but I felt the price missed the mark yhat being said I love svs and the company and the customer service is the best I've ever dealt with . I also got the hsu-vtf 15h mk2 and the output was substantial its has more clean output and goes lower than my duals I have had it for a little over a week but my obsessive what if attitude made me also pull the trigger on the pb3000 to see the difference before I get a second hsu the svs should be hear in a little over a week

[@robscorner7012]

@@dayonerecoverdub3626 I hope it is at least as good as the HSU given how much more it costs! Definitely comment back with your findings, I'm curious how it performs. If you have access to a meter, that would be really great to see...

[@dayonerecoverdub3626]

@@robscorner7012 I will try and do a video on them to just voice what my opinion on how they perform in my room and then see if I can figure out REW after that

[@pchlars5666]

About ported vs sealed . Correct me if I'm wrong. According to the graphs you have included. They sound deeper because people can hear 30-20 Hz but can not hear < 15Hz even if they go deeper. However if sub has enough power, and moves enough air you can feel 11Hz. Btw great review. :) love the bouns dog content :D

[@07wrxtr1]

I have no plans to buy these, but I enjoy your reviews! So far so good with the pair of lowly pb-1000's!!

[@larrypilgrim12]

Pair of sb 2000s here. Plenty for me. Shakes the house enough for me. More of a music guy so like my setup. I don't even turn them up because they would overpower my other speakers. Unless I got a dedicated amp with a pre amp receiver I wouldn't waste my money on the power I won't use. I would need a bigger room to justify spending more. 9.2 atmos. 2 subs, 2 towers, center, 4 elevation speakers and 2 bipolar speakers. Full svs speakers. Into it 4500 in speakers. Plenty for me.

[@jmd11185]

What level are you running on the sub? I have a single pb3000 that rattles the dishes on the other end of the room so I’m wondering how much I’d really benefit from a second pb3000.

[@nitinkanchan5294]

Hi, your reviews are great & knowledgeable for others. Since you have heard the SB 3000 & PB 2000. How would you pit them against each other for music. Does the PB 2000 lag far behind the SB 3000 or is the difference marginal. For movies I am sure the PB 2000 will have the advantage since it is ported.

[@TylerPGH5000]

In practice, are these SVS subs hard on your home's electrical circuits? I'm assuming the 16 Ultra is a different story, but the 1000 - 4000 line, can these be plugged into the wall like normal without expecting lights to flicker?

[@Subwoofer101]

ALL of them are extremely efficient. Class D amplification is impressive. Even the PB-16 Ultra consumes less power over time than my TV. There is good capacitance, meaning the power is stored, unlike Class A amplifiers, where they consume a lot more power constantly. I've seen people install individual circuits for PB-16 Ultras, but in my opinion, it's completely unnecessary. The nature of sound is impulsive. So it's not a constant draw like an air conditioner would be. The SVS amplifiers are also like power conditioners, with the ability to run on lower voltage (weaker) circuits. I've had to build a sophisticated power system for the home theater in the motorhome, so I'm intimately familiar with the amount of power consumed. The ENTIRE theater setup, including 65" TV, Denon AVR, Fire Stick, Blu Ray player, and 2 PB-2000 Pro's, all running together consume between 200 and 450 watts in total, and when it gets close to 350 watts, things are *REALLY* rocking. It's pretty crazy how efficient they are, especially for the energy they put into the room.

[@TylerPGH5000]

​@@Subwoofer101 Appreciate the detailed response, helps a lot! I came across your channel while I was researching the benefits of 2 subwoofers vs 1. Now you've also peaked my interest in the SVS product line.

[@Subwoofer101]

SVS subs are game changers. The most important thing I can say about them is to turn them up. When your AVR has you set the level for your subwoofers, it always sets them too low. Most AVRs are flawed, in that they're just looking for the peak decibel output, but on an SVS subwoofer, that peak output is always much lower in frequency than the vast majority of subwoofers. That's where my bass hack series, and my Top 16 AVR settings really make a difference. Glad you found the channel!

[@JayPatrol]

It all depends on the size of whatever room you use these subwoofers in is the make and size you really need. I like the svs subwoofers but their speakers are too odd shaped and not appealing to me. Don't care for odd made speakers period Besides if you don't have a dedicated room you don't need huge subwoofers

[@timstubbs6701]

I had the Dali e12f and two of them had issues with the cabinet. I lost faith in the product after rave reviews about the quality of the product and bad advice from their cs team (blown coil). I came to your page and watched your reviews, your information on duals, quality and output swung me after looking at various makes. I have a denon avr-x2500h, Q Accoustics 3090 centre, 3020 as surround, 3050 floor standers, Eltax atmos upfiring speakers and now dual svs pb1000. My room is 12x 21 with opening to stairs and dining room. My house shakes and if I open the porch door the front door flexes quite a bit. Kudos is all down to your channel and would have bought direct via your link but I'm in the UK. The quality of these subs to dig deep, clarity and listening experience is amazing. Thanks.

[@ericvaughan11]

You nailed it on your observation, I just got a pair of PB-2000 pro after owning the SB3000 for several years. I know what you mean about them being "DEEP", I have heard bass notes I haven't heard in years while running sealed for last 3-4 years. Lot more impact, sound even better for music than I thought they would being ported. Much better for movies by long way. But even as good as they are, I'm returning them and ordered pair of PB-3000 for that extra headroom and impact. Your video was what finally convinced me to go with PB-3000 over PB-2000 pro.

[@1206waylin]

currently am on the market for a subwoofer.., and i want to get the PB-4000 but i like the new PB-3000 too.., any recomendations? maybe dual PB-3000 instead of the PB-4000

[@Subwoofer101]

100%, absolutely dual PB-3000's over a single PB-4000. All day long, no question. If you are down to support the channel, and it's no trouble, please follow one of my SVS links in this video description. My links are factory direct, so you would have 1 year trade up. If you wanted to upgrade, I'd go straight to the PB 16 Ultras. Going from the PB-3000 to the PB-4000 is not dramatic. The PB 16 Ultras would be a worthwhile change. The PB-3000's are that good.

[@1206waylin]

Subwoofer 101 awesome ! I will., i love your videos., so dual Pb-3000s it’s!

[@Subwoofer101]

Right on! Report back after you've had some time with them. Definitely watch the Bass Hack series to get the most out of them. Thanks for your support!!

[@MangBentot]

Dual pb3000 in a 12ft x 16ft room size all concrete w/ an 8ft ceiling what are your thoughts is it good or bad

[@Subwoofer101]

The room size is less important than most people think. I've run those subs in a 24x24 living room, and in the motorhome. They did amazingly in both scenarios, so you're golden. Follow my Bass Hack Video Series, especially the Crossover Hack, the Gain Hack, Distance Hack, adjusting subwoofers by ear, and you will get more performance than you would if you went "by the book". The only thing I would recommend specifically is textiles textiles textiles. Throw rug, curtains even if you don't have windows, anything fabric to reduce the sound reflections. Concrete produces a lot of echoes and ringing. You'll want to minimize that, but that's completely independent of subwoofer recommendation, it's something you'll want to do regardless. With dual PB-3000's, configured the way I recommend, you should be REALLY happy. Make sure that you're getting full lossless audio from your Blu-ray player (Dolby Atmos Hack), then play "The Accountant", and the shootout in the driveway toward the end of the movie will show you exactly why those subs are one of my favorites. If you follow my SVS affiliate link in the video description before you order them, I'd appreciate it, but no biggie if you can't. The only subs I like better are the PB-16 Ultras, but the difference in cost, size, and definitely weight, the PB-3000 gets really close to that level of performance and explosiveness, for quite a bit less. For example, in my living room now, the PB-3000's would be my choice, but only because of the size and weight of the PB-16 Ultras. Oddly, the fireplace makes anything "large" look out of place. I could've also shoehorned the PB-16 Ultras into the motorhome like I did with the PB-4000's, but it really got in the way of the walkway. Sounded awesome, but not sustainable. The PB-3000's were epic, and they fit a LOT better. I ended up going with the PB-2000 Pro's, simply because it made sense to be on their side, and have a flat grill. It's also more attainable, and I think that's better for demos. So each sub has certain use cases, but the PB-3000's are my favorite "premium" subs, because what they deliver with the size and cost is just crazy good, and it has a lot to do with the split wound voice coil. Sorry, kind of went down the rabbit hole there... But to answer your question, yes dual PB-3000's will work out quite well in your room.

[@jonathanmatthew5631]

I have one PC13-Ultra but cant afford to get another one due to space constraints. Will having 2x SB2000 or SB3000 be better for me if i do 90% movies / 10% music? Our bedroom is 14sqm/150sqft. (note: I can't move subs around, very tight space).

[@Subwoofer101]

Are dual "PC-2000 Pro" an option? Same price as dual SB-3000, but I imagine better for movies. They just released it on Tuesday. Looking really good. Has the App, new driver, and same amp tech from the PB-16 Ultras, just lower wattage. If you meant 1 vs 2, always 2. Dual SB-2000 Pro instead of a single SB-3000.

[@poltergeise2340]

I'd love to go dual subs but don't want to pay the price of (2) PB3000's. In your opinion would you recommend two PB2000's or one PB3000 cost wise in a 22' x 24' room with 6' 2" ceilings? That's what SVS recommended when I spoke to them. Thank you

[@Oldschoolgamerdad]

2x PB2000's

[@kingcrimson234]

6'2" ceilings? I wouldn't even be able to stand in there!

[@Slickman2006]

The PB-3000 isn't priced right. For instance if you look at the 2000 series the SB is $700 and the PB is $800, so 14.3% more for the PB. For the 4000 series the PB is 26.7% more and for the 16 Ultra the PB is 25% more. When you do the math for the 3000 series the PB is 40% more, WOW! The PB should have been between $1,150 to $1,300.

[@digitalparadigms]

Lol, yep, sorta. Unknown variables.

[@danielsingh6283]

if i get 2 SP 300, is it better to put them together or seperate?

[@Subwoofer101]

Further apart is better

[@snowpuppy77]

Very helpful video. If your room is very large, 4500 to 5000 cubit feet, would it make sense to get the dual PB-4000 vs the PB-3000 or is the PB-3000 still all that is needed?

[@Lazarus.09]

Are you saying you did your PEQ and then ran room correction? Or, you ran room calibration first and THEN played and did your PEQ’s?

[@Subwoofer101]

Room correction first, then fine-tune with PEQs.

[@Lazarus.09]

@@Subwoofer101 thank you sir! 🙏🏻

[@Slickman2006]

I would love to hear your opinion on how the PB-3000 fares against it's competitors, mainly the Outlaw Ultra 13 and HSU VTF3- MK5 and VTF-15H MK2.

[@paulbelanger8296]

I have a pair of MK 350 THX certified subs for the past 14 years They blew the PB-2000s away on all aspects. Something went wrong on the amp. Being that old plus MK went out of business, The new take over is not even in thin country! I bought two PB -2000 and just swap out for dual PB 3000s, Let you know what i think of them.

[@Subwoofer101]

One issue people can have is the deep sound of the SVS subs don't put out the same relative midbass as every other sub does at the same dial position. The simple solution is to match the levels of your previous sub in the 50-80 hertz range, which should result in a lot more bottom end response, while still delivering the same midbass performance you're used to. Being really loud in the midbass and quiet in the deep bass is something I consider a flaw. SVS subs are ruler flat, which means that with room gain, they get a little louder as they go deeper. A very satisfying sound in my opinion. Basically, turn up the SVS subs a little more than you would with the previous subs. You can also use the PEQ function in the SVS app to shape the curve to your liking with the PB-3000's.

[@benjamindminor1983]

I think that ported is the better option a good ported subwoofer can do everything you want it to.

[@Subwoofer101]

I agree!

[@robdelgado-f5v]

Hi would 2 pb3000 have more bass than one pb16 ultra in a 24x24 sq ft room?

[@Subwoofer101]

Yes, you get a 6 dB gain or so, which adds to the headroom, but more importantly, it reduces the standing wave effect, making it so you can hear ALL of the bass. If you listen to a frequency sweep, with *any* single, as the bass goes deeper, you will hear it get louder and quieter as the frequency changes. The bass just goes in and out. Not even at all. With matching ported dual deep bass subwoofers, you hear the bass evenly, getting louder as you go deeper, as low as you can hear. Definitely a departure from the norm, most subwoofers get quieter as they go deeper, falling off pretty hard, giving you a "shallow" sound. In your situation, absolutely I would choose dual PB-3000's, over a single PB 16 Ultra. I did exactly that, I turned off the PB 16 Ultras in favor of dual PB-2000 originals. When I finally received the second PB 16 Ultra, THAT is when I finally understood how awesome they are. The PB 3000's are in the same ballpark, but easier to move around, less expensive, and the kick is insane. My first living room was 24x24, and I had gobs of headroom left. If you follow my affiliate link, I would appreciate it, and then doing all of my bass hacks to get the most out of them. Crossover hack, distance hack, adjusting subs by ear, and the SVS App Hack. You'll want your gain in the -13 to -16 range on the subs. I'm running these currently and they are epic. They will get a little more potent and louder as they break in, so you might need to turn them down by a dB or so once that happens. Let me know how it goes!

[@rob5232]

I have and still use my REL Q400E sealed subwoofer. After many years of use it still packs a punch with plenty of low end thump. I know it's outdated now but I still like the sound it using the avr passover. If anyone has had simular it would be nice to know

[@WWeiss-nv5vz]

I have a single SB3000 and need more output in large space. Music80%/Movies 20%. Should I get another SB3000 or single SB4000 or single SB16?

[@fabiankk68731]

Nice! Im thinking of getting a pb 2000 or pb13 ultra for my dali zensor setup but dont know which one i should get because i could get the pb 13 over the pb2000 for only 200 € more.... though question what would you choose? :)

[@Subwoofer101]

I would factor in the idea that you are going to want 2. PB-13 Ultras will have a stronger punch, that's what I would prefer, but if it only meant you could get one, I would shoot for dual PB-2000's.

[@fabiankk68731]

Subwoofer 101 yeah but the problem is i can only afford one and if i could i would only have space for one sub sooo.. :D either one used pb13 ultra or one pb 2000 i could just maybe make space for two pb 1000 that also would be an option but i prefer more to the pb2000 or 13 ultra because they have more power as my current sub from teufel with only 220 watts also the svs probably sound much better for sure than my current one i think anyway thanks for your answer greets from Austria:)

[@fabiankk68731]

Also my room isnt the biggest to say maybe 10x5 meters

[@Subwoofer101]

Trust me, duals are the way to go. Make room. Go for the PB-2000 and look for another. I prefer dual PB-2000's over a *single* PB 16 Ultra. It makes THAT big of a difference. Then watch my Gain Hack, Distance Hack, and tiny room videos. In smaller rooms, I think duals are even more important. Your room is not that small compared to my "tiny room" (the RV).

[@fabiankk68731]

Subwoofer 101 ok thanks! :)

[@abs6764]

Great review, I've got a single pb13 ultra bash amp which I'm looking at replacing with the sledge amp in the 4000. I was looking at getting another pb13 with a sledge amp. Would this be better for me over dual 3000s? Thanks

[@jaden9037]

Hi by chance would you review Arendal 1961 and 1723? I found the on KZbin looking at the SVS PB 3000 or the Arendal 1723. Would really like to hear your thoughts on this

[@TheTerminator118]

Can anyone answer if I should go dual pb2000 or single pb3000 in room 11x13 not sure if single will be enough

[@Subwoofer101]

Room size is not really an issue, it's the standing wave effect. No matter what, with a single subwoofer, you're missing a lot of low end due to dead spots. Duals correct this, and sound better for a number of reasons. Dual PB-2000 Pro's all day, and I LOVE the PB-3000, but you can trade up to a pair of those within a year, if you go factory direct. My affiliate links in the video description are factory direct, and I can earn a commission if you follow them before purchasing, but only if you're in the USA. If you are out of the country, 1 year trade up doesn't usually apply unless specifically stated where you are buying. I would choose dual PB-2000 Pro's over a single PB-16 Ultra, which I did because I only had 1 PB-16 Ultra at first. I shut the PB-16 Ultra off and kept the dual PB-2000's until I was able to have matching PB-16 Ultras. Duals make THAT big of a difference. And mixing the 3 made it worse. Matching is important.

[@mecha0061]

Which do you think would be better for movies, two SB3000 or two PB2000 pro's?

[@pwnjones]

I wish someone knew, I'm debating this choice.

[@Subwoofer101]

I dropped the ball! Dual PB-2000 Pro's, all day long for movies. The SB-3000's will do the job just fine, but you should get more relative audible bottom end out of the ported subs. And you can make the ported subs sealed. You can't make a sealed sub ported.

[@pwnjones]

@@Subwoofer101 Thank you for replying! It's so hard to weigh the extra power & better driver & smaller box & metal grille of the SB vs. the PB's ported box low bass output advantage without having heard them in person. Some reviewers have compared these subs but not in PAIRS. I appreciate your recommendation!

[@edwardsanchez3708]

I have four definitive tech Supercube reference subwoofers and they go so low you can't hear it but feel it. That's the only kind of bass or subs I'm interested in.

[@iplaygames9837]

did u tried edge of tommorow opening note on your subs ? do they chuff ?

[@edwardsanchez3708]

@@iplaygames9837 I know they are not the ultimate subs but I've never been able to bring them to their knees. Either all the lights start going dim or the neighbors come over and complain

[@edwardsanchez3708]

@@iplaygames9837 www.blu-ray.com/community/gallery.php?member=Alpha+Sixx&folderid=6044 There is a pic of my 9.4 setup back in 2011. I've only upgraded since then.

[@ghostrecon3214]

IPlayGames Pausing this video to go check out that sequence. I just have a sb12nsd in a pretty big room, lets see what happens... Sounds like it would be polite if I dont do it while she is sleeping...

[@Subwoofer101]

My last "regular" sub was a super cube. Better than average for sure, but under 30 hertz, the subs on the list are much stronger under 30. Based on what you're telling me, you would really enjoy the deeper tone of SVS subs.

[@taxi615]

I'm starting off with 1 PB3000 will I still be impressed the room is 11x12 the sub I'm replacing is a Martin Logan 700W lol

[@Subwoofer101]

Absolutely. The difference will be undeniable.

[@taxi615]

@@Subwoofer101 perfect thanks

[@timdmyterko4208]

Still breaking mine in but have to be courteous to my apartment neighbors. Tried using the bass containment but agree with you as for how much it defeats the sub. Awesome review and glad you have found your happy medium!

[@TheDoozie43]

Here’s a question for ya, dual sb4000s OR dual pb3000s? Only a $200 price difference, I’m leaning toward the 4000s, but I’m just not sure if they will get low like I want. Tough call. I’m mostly movies 70/30 to music. Thanks if you even see this! Lol.

[@Subwoofer101]

Dual PB-3000's would be my pick. No question.

[@samuelmarshall100]

For some reason I have to turn my volume up on my speakers to make the volume on the sub go loud, I can’t find anything amp or devices that I can buy that would allow me to separate the sub and the speakers into two volume channels

[@jpsabbey]

Would be interested to get your opinion on Elac's . I think you'll like them 👌

[@cmdoggy24]

Jason tradinghigh I bought them on sale last year on that Amazon sale and couldn’t be happier. They aren’t the best sounding speakers I have heard, but they are the best sounding speakers in that price range, by far.

[@jdm724]

What I do like is the app and all the features. It left me only with one question : while the 2000 series uses a knob to adjust the volume where these subs kicking arse is at 2 o clock. What setting is this for the new series on the volume? Standard its minus 10db. But i had to put it on -5db on the sb3000 to come alive on movies and shake the couch. But is this to loud? After 10 min on this volume i did smell the woofer a bit (when i was close to the woofer) i didnt hear any audible distortion though during the test

[@martylynchian8628]

Where do you park an RV in Vegas?

[@Subwoofer101]

Circus Circus is where I stayed. There are a few places.

[@MrBrosan989]

I own a pair of these babies and I love them. Truth is, I really like the look of the pb 4000's. but as you mentioned , they are very closely matched. so, I see no reason to upgrade. However I would like to feel what it feels to listen to the pb 16 ultra's

[@paulbelanger8296]

You state the reference scale on the preamp or receiver that is your main volume control . What are your speaker gain settings in your main menu and on the subs?

[@Subwoofer101]

On the PB-3000's in the RV, the gain is around -16 or -17, and in the Denon I have the Subwoofer Level (enabled in the Audio menu) at -11.5 to -10.5 depending on mood. In the house, I might have the gain 1-2 dB higher on the subs (-15 or -16), but really not much of a difference, which is surprising given the difference in room sizes. I run the PB-4000's gain higher, about -13 on average, for the same impact. That's in the RV and the house as well. In the house, I need to run the left sub 3 dB lower since it's more in a corner than the right sub. So -14 and -11 is normal in the house. In the RV, both subs measure equal.

[@paulbelanger8296]

@@Subwoofer101 So you are saying that -16 to -17 is on the subs and -11.5 to 10 .5 is in the Denon?

[@Subwoofer101]

Yep, that's my personal preference.

[@paulbelanger8296]

@@Subwoofer101 Thank you.

[@paulbelanger8296]

Also " forgot to ask in my last comment" do you run AUDYSSEY XT32 DYNAMIC VOLUME in you system ? If so how is it set up? I don't remember what vidieo you posted it on in the past.

[@juandoe7802]

I can only afford a combination of the following, tell me what you would suggest if you don't mind? I have the opportunity to buy a Single PB 3000 with maybe a year later buy the second one (I know you said in the video you'd go Dual PB2000), or Dual SB3000, Dual PB2000pro, or a Pair of used PB2000 for 900$ (2 years old) I love bass, I want it to hit low and hard! However, I also would like subs that sound good at low volumes too for night time viewing...

[@1crenshaw488]

Subwoofer 101 I just brought 2 from SVS myself one 2 weeks ago and the one that was deliver today from SVS; just one is crazy incredible so I have to hear now with 2 like you.

[@bakoe7604]

John Crenshaw Which did you get? I have 2 sb 1000’s in my 10x10 room! Svs ftw! They have awesome subs. I heard a demo Of 2 sb 16 ultra’s in a store a While back and was completly blown away. Can’t imagine how deep their proted subs must sound.

[@paulgolub6823]

I'm curious also.

[@troyhenry3267]

Would these be too much for a dedicated room of 2400 cubic feet? Its these or the PB2000 Pros? Need advice?

[@larrydavis3836]

Hello Subwoofer 101, I just upgraded from the pb-2000 to the pb-3000 and they will arrive this tuesday. Any tips on how to set up new pb-3000s?

[@samidebs3474]

I have a dedicated home theater 20 by 13 what do you recommend a dual Pb 16 or a 4 Pb 3000?

[@flashhog01]

Great video! Interesting comment concerning your sensitivity toward sealed subs. I am the same way with ported subs.

[@Subwoofer101]

Well that's unexpected! I would expect that to be a timing/phase issue. Side by side, same guts, a ported should be easier on the ears. Also could be the individual subs, typical subs are often too strong around 50-75 hertz, which can also be painful. Which subs are we talking about, both ported and sealed?

[@flashhog01]

Thanks for the comment, I had the SVS pb-1000 and found it slow and somewhat bloated in my room. I moved it about the room and saw no improvement. Then upgraded to the SVS sb-2000 and find it great for movies but not for 2ch listening.

[@Subwoofer101]

Dual subs resolve a lot of that slow feeling. Tightens up the response.

[@bakoe7604]

I also had a pressure thing when i got my sb-1000’s. Went away after a week or two.

[@SirChiefUK]

Really nice review. What crossover did you end up?

[@Subwoofer101]

Usually 90-120 hz depending on the speaker. Always set to Small, tower speakers 90 hz, satellite/elevations 120 hz. Still getting response to the speaker under the crossover point, but it's a hard cutoff for the subs, and I believe in feeding my subs as much as possible. 90 hertz is always a minimum for me, unless I'm trying to trim bass in a very specific way. Always set the crossover for the highest value, effectively disabling the crossover on the sub itself, aka high pass filter off.

[@SirChiefUK]

What crossover did you end up with your subs and what’s on your main and satellite speakers?

[@Subwoofer101]

Mains typically around 90 hertz, even for Towers, and 120-150 for Satellite, Elevation, and any speaker with a small bass driver. Always set to Small.

[@SirChiefUK]

@@Subwoofer101thank you, this is really helpful. I followed your advise to put the levels all the way down on avr for the subs and tune it on the subs. Still confused on what the crossover for this subs

[@Subwoofer101]

@SirChiefUK I disable the crossover on the subwoofer itself, and let the AVR handle everything. I'm glad you enjoy your equipment more after using my tips! Love to hear it.

[@esmokah]

I was wanting a sub or two to go with my stereo system. I listen to a wide variety of music, these look amazing.

[@VINNY5674]

Ported vs Sealed vs sealed with radiators vs 4 order bandpass box I've heard them all. All can be very good it breaks down to personal preference. My ears tend to love subs with radiators and 4th order bandpass.

[@1crenshaw488]

Can you help me out with picking my AV receiver I want to go with Marantz 7012, with a emotiva, what do you thank, should I go sr8012, ED Mullen said i would be better to go with the 7012 only difffernce is IMAX for the 7013, but 8012 more wpc but on surrond would a 100 on the 7012 be fine tell me I am almost done with this project. Also going dolby atmost with 4 klish in the ceiling.

[@davidvalentine2714]

Love the channel, how low with room gain in a normal room (not motor home) can dual pb-3000's go according to measurements? I'd like to get down to 13hz, do you think a dual pb-3000 setup will get me there?

[@bluethundar]

I quite enjoy your video Sir. I have a question, I am looking to upgrade my home theater subwoofer, I am currently using a Polk Audio PSW505 in a 20x18 room and the base is lackluster. I have a $1300 budget but could stretch it to $1400. So my question to you is, what would you suggest, 2 SVS pb-2000 or 1 SVS pb-3000? I have narrowed down to just those 2 options, please advise. Thank you.

[@kingcrimson234]

He literally answered this exact question in the video if you watch it.

[@human__________]

how do you best go about hooking two subs up to a receiver with only one sub output? I ask because I'm looking at the emotiva PT-100 pre amp for a future setup. Potentially a 2.2 if I get bookshelves instead of towers. Obviously I could just get a Y splitter but is that really the way to go? If I do go the 2.2 direction should I look at something with two sub outs or is the splitter fine?

[@Subwoofer101]

Splitter is totally fine. I'm using one for the SoundBase amp, works great. If you are talking about AVR's, XT32 room correction is a good option, as it is great for bass, especially in challenging rooms. Generally, that option comes with dual sub outs. But in general, there is nothing wrong with using a splitter.

[@human__________]

@@Subwoofer101 My focus is more music than movies but this will also be the movie room. (i assume AVR means audio/video recordings) I figured it wouldn't matter much for low end it's just my ocd that demands left and right separation. Anyway, thanks for the information. (also fyi my current intention is to pair sealed svs 1000's with something from KEFs Q line(this is still a few months off I haven't even sold my current speakers yet)) thanks again

[@Subwoofer101]

@@human__________ I'm 70% music myself. You might check this out: www.subwoofer101.com/ported-vs-sealed/

[@bakoe7604]

I have 2 sb 1000’s in my 9x9x9 feet room. The response graph in my room is similar to the pb 1000 graph that you showed in the video. Under 30 Hz i get a 6 db peak and then when it hits 20 it starts to drop off. I plan on upgrading to 2 sb 2000’s. You mentioned that the sb 2000 went down to 11 Hz in your room. My question is, do you think the sb 2000 will work good in my room? The roll off slope is designed to take advantage off room gain and my room seems to have pretty good gain below 30 Hz. Do you think it will be good for movies? Could you feel the bass more on the sb 2000? I figure the pb 2000 will be overkill for my tiny space

[@danv135]

Two PB-3000's or SB-3000's? Mainly home theater but hi-res music too. Thx!

[@Subwoofer101]

Two PB-3000's, all day long. You can run them in sealed mode. You cannot run the SB-3000's as ported. The PB-3000's are outstanding.

[@danv135]

@@Subwoofer101 Sweet! Thanks for the prompt reply!

[@Gshiznit74]

I been with a pb13 ultra and want to go dual but no more 13s in Aus. Do you think the pb3000 might work well as a mismatch dual. Similar size driver perhaps depth??

[@abs6764]

What did you go for in the end. I've got a 13 ultra and looking to upgrade the amp to the new sledge that the 4000 has.

[@Gshiznit74]

@@abs6764 I found another PB13 last in stock and am now dual PB13's. My room is now beautifully balanced across the seating areas. Best improvement. Since I've upgraded my system for atmos the bass is so impressive.

[@abs6764]

@@Gshiznit74 thanks for the quick reply.. Have they got the new sledge amps fitted with Bluetooth..?

[@Gshiznit74]

@@abs6764 no they're the original sledge amp. The type you have to reach behind lol. But I've got them to a set and forget status and have 2 channel and multi controlled by the processor

[@gsmd770]

Nice video.I have my 2 PB 13 Ultra's that I purchased in the summer of 2016. I went home back to the States to visit my parents and by the time I came back to Europe. SVS sent me an email about the PB 16 Ultra that had just dropped! They wanted to know if I wanted to do a trade in? The only problem is that the PB 16 cost 3500 euro each in Germany???!!!! No thanks I said,I'll keep my PB 13 Ultra's!!! I'm happy with my purchase!

[@bloodcarver913]

Updated price for the PB16s in EU is actually 3750,- Euro PER PCS...way too expensive compared to the US price. At this level I do not think they sell them at all over here. I would like 2 but waaay to expensive.

[@gsmd770]

@@bloodcarver913 Oh yeah! That's way too expensive!!!!!

[@abs6764]

Have you still got your pb13 ultras? Have you upgraded to the latest sledge amp the 1200? I've got one with bash amp but looking at upgrading the amp and getting a second pb13.

[@gsmd770]

@@abs6764 Yeah,I still have'em. I have to get around to upgrading the amps. I've been busy building bicycles? I have lots of hobbies. I need to do a fresh rebuild on my computer too? If you can get your hands on a graphics card?

[@djgdogg1860]

Do you recommend to set speaker at small or large I keep finding my self going back and forth I have huge towers and center but I usually keep at small?

[@Dannypalarchio]

Keep em at small and leave frequency crossover at 80hz let ur sub do the heavy bass

[@djgdogg1860]

Oh okay thanks

[@bric7244]

What do you think is better the pb 16 or HSU’s VTF-15H Mk2 ?! Thank you ...

[@noramraz1120]

what is the better buy PB12 vs SB3000? For movies, 20x20 room?

[@Subwoofer101]

I would go with the dual PB12-NSD's, hands down. The SB-3000 is a great sub, but duals are always better, and you should easily have more headroom.

[@Subwoofer101]

And almost universally, ported are best for movies.

[@zachk.3101]

Hi, what av receiver are you currently using? I'd like to pick up the one you have as I trust you know your stuff! Thanks

[@johnlira3316]

Hello Sir need ur input a seller is selling a Pb2000 for 420 but has the LFE Connector broken but he states he still has the sub cable hook onto the LFE should i buy or just wait for a mint condition to pop up ?

[@Subwoofer101]

Check the Labor Day sale: sub101.link/LaborDay2019

[@Slickman2006]

From the way you describe the PB-3000's it sounds like performance is somewhere between the old PB12 plus and PB13 ultra.

[@pelahale]

You've mentioned this antipathy towards the pressurization in your TMs many times before and I've not really understood it. Does it make you nauseated or dizzy? It seems to me that subwoofing's entire point is to pressurize your TMs such that the basilar membrane endolymypatic fluid can evenly transmit resonance through the entire coil. If you don't enjoy this pressurization feel, what are you hearing? Are you listening through your skeletal structure instead? If so, you couldn't possibly be "hearing it" but rather must be "feeling it." To me ported subwoofers seem to be for "feelers" rather than "hearers." Am I wrong?

[@Subwoofer101]

I don't mean to say that you are wrong, but I think it has to do with a concussion I had 18 years ago. Apparently, concussion can last a lifetime. One symptom of post concussion syndrome is that my system is in fight or flight the majority of the time, which increases hearing sensitivity for survival purposes. That's just my guess, but ported are far more comfortable for me.

[@Doomfearkeeper]

I just went dual PB 3000's upgraded from PB 1000 pro's. O.M.G.!!!!!!!! they are amazing!! Great Review!

[@mclement052164]

What about dual PB2000 PRO vs single PB4000 or single 16 Ultra?

[@Subwoofer101]

Dual PB-2000 Pro all day. I would choose the original dual PB-2000 over a single of either of those. Not a guess, I had dual PB-2000's and a single PB-16 Ultra. After trying for days to integrate the three, or integrate one PB-2000 with the PB-16 Ultra, and just running the PB-16 Ultra alone, I actually just shut the PB-16 Ultra off in favor of the dual PB-2000's. I'm not kidding about the importance of duels. It makes all of the difference.

[@powerinnumbers6159]

@@Subwoofer101 Im thinking one ported + one sealed 2000 pro, how would this work do you think?

[@xiiivaniix]

Just ordered an SB-3000 talked with the guys at SVS gave me some great recs. Itll be a bug change for me as ive always been a ported type of person and watch only movies 100% of the time. So We'll see if i made the right choice over PC-2000

[@Subwoofer101]

I'm curious how you will like it. Let me know!

[@snootz]

any update on how you like the SB-3000 with movies?

[@xiiivaniix]

snootz alootz im really liking yhe SB 3000 there's no way the PB 2000 could give nearly as much bass and impact. Impossible. The PB 3000 may be better but that price was more than I was willing to spend and too big for my small 11x15 bedroom. I think 2 would make the absolute perfect system. I recommend itnover the 2000 series but if you have the cash get the PB. Especially since it comes with a way to seal it.

[@evanwelder]

I just wish they had the piano gloss finish. I been debating between these and the pb4000 . I can’t really afford dual 4000’s right away. I also built the box and my wife’s look was priceless. So dual pb3000 ‘s it is .Thanks so much for the review.

[@robdelgado-f5v]

Hi will 2 pb3000 fill a 5300 cubic sq ft room?

[@Subwoofer101]

Yes they will, easy. Be sure to follow my bass hacks to get the most out of them. Gain hack, crossover hack, distance hack, adjusting subs by ear, SVS App Hack, etc... You could get PB-16 Ultras, and by simply not optimizing them, a pair of PB-1000 Pro's would outperform them just by being optimized. I'm running the PB-3000s now, and I have a lot of headroom left. One of my favorite subs.

[@robdelgado-f5v]

Ok will do. Thanks

[@brooklynbummer]

I have the PB 3000 and I am very pleased with its performance, best subwoofer, I have ever owned.

[@ndis1977]

I don't know how svs markets 3000 series in the states but in Greece the price difference imo doesn't justify buying them over 4000 series.

[@Ladybugsammiie]

So picked one of these up and I am getting a lot of port noise is there a way to kind of correct this other than the plugs? Ive tried the settings and I cant find the perfect balance...

[@Subwoofer101]

What scenes are causing port noise? Port noise usually occurs at the deepest and the loudest points. I only detected a little, pretty much inaudible unless you are right next to it, during the opening scene of "Edge of Tomorrow" which is just a torture test, and not really representative of normal content. Unless it's really bad, I don't judge too much on that scene, if every other hard hitting scene has no port noise. Interestingly, what I have thought was port noise in that scene can be heard through the main speakers. I always put my head near the port to ensure that I'm hearing it from the sub. Port noise happens when a sub is pushed to it's limits. Running duals means you can run the gain lower than you would with a single, along with a plethora of other benefits, like more impact, and being able to hear all of the bass. Also, room correction can cause a boost in the low end, artificially sending more signal under 25 hertz due to room modes, again something duals would help with. Which scene? PB-3000 gain value? AVR make and model? AVR Subwoofer level?

[@Ladybugsammiie]

@@Subwoofer101 I can get you all that info when I get home. Ive watched a fee main movies and its been fine like ready player one, hacksaw ridge avengers etc. The really weird one was a Netflix series called Locke and Key. And it was during a very random scene that was like 3 seconds long. The gain on the sub was at -20 so not even that loud. I am running a Denon receiver. I have gone through all my settings on it with SVS and it sounds great most of the time. Like you said its only on really extreme cases that it chuffs like that. I just want to make sure its not going to damage it.

[@Subwoofer101]

Also make sure that the sound itself is not a chuffing sound. Put your head near your mains and see if the sound is coming from there. It would also be great if you could tell me the episode and the time marker for that scene, so I can check it out myself.

[@Ladybugsammiie]

@@Subwoofer101 ok so the show is Locke and Key episode 2. Start at 38 minute mark. PB3000 is at -20DB in the app. Audyssey is on. Reference level offset on at 0db. Levels is at 0db. Crossovers is at 60hz for front and center surround and heights at 100 Hz. All speakers set to small. Should be enough info. Let me know if you need more oh and main volume was at -45db

[@Subwoofer101]

I checked it out, and there are other scenes that should cause chuffing long before this scene would. I cranked it up and with my head right next to the ports, I could *maybe* hear a hint of it, but generally nothing. No way I could hear it from my seat. I'm thinking that it might be a room correction issue, perhaps causing too much output at that frequency, causing the sub to be overdriven. If that particular frequency is in a dead spot where you did room correction (guaranteed to have dead spots with a single subwoofer) it could easily be overdriven trying to compensate for a lack of signal. When you are in a dead spot, you can crank the volume by 10 dB at that frequency and sometimes only get 1 dB of measurable increase. So the subwoofer is working like mad at that particular frequency, but you still can't hear it. One of the many reasons duals are so important. Takes the dead spots away to a large degree, and gives you more headroom so the subs don't have to work as hard to produce the same impact. Better explosiveness too, even at the same volume. I'm running dual PB-3000's. I found the scene to be kind of tame, but given the frequency, I could see how being overdriven could cause it. If another PB-3000 isn't in the cards, maybe try running room correction again, being sure to never go further than 2 feet from the first and most important sample. So all of your room correction samples should be within a 4 foot circle. That's my take on it. Also make sure your subwoofer is set to Standard mode, not sealed. A PB-3000 shouldn't have a problem with that scene.

[@jaekamacho1416]

Im currently running dual older Klipsch subs and i have a $1000 budget for new dual subs. After some searching and forum opinions i narrowed it down to the svs pb 1000 and the monolith thx 10. Both 10"s , both $500, and almost the same size boxes, the svs is 300w, where as the thx is 500w and has some pretty decent numbers. And from what ive been reading the monolith is "better", and a deal at $500. What do u think about the monolith thx 10? I havent see ur list yet, ill be checking it out!

[@Subwoofer101]

I have the Monolith subs on the list, but tentatively. I want to hear them before I give the thumbs up. I'm an affiliate for both companies, so either way, if you follow my links, it helps me out. I can vouch for the PB-1000's, and the 1 year trade up can make a big difference if you want to upgrade. I can also say that I have preferred lower wattage, lower output subs because they have a deeper tone. Whether that's a factor here or not remains to be seen. I am pretty certain that I wouldn't like the THX mode on the Monolith subs, but their extended mode might have a deep enough sound to make the list.

[@thomasnew8606]

remember MOST people plug these into a shared 15amp circuit (15amp x 120 volts = 1800 watts) so when you add a sub that has a 1000+ watt amplifier that is sharing with your TV (say taking 2 or 3 amps), your receiver (taking 2 or 3 amps realistically if using the 80hz crossover), your other accessories (2 amps), your lighting, (1 - 2 amps) So in other words. A regular 15 amp circuit wont power all of our big toys. Having at least 2 dedicated 20 amp circuits is ideal to let these subwoofers really play. That is why some of these "smaller" subs really keep up with the bigger ones. The bigger subs are getting starved for power

[@Subwoofer101]

Ah, the magic of Class D amplification and strong capacitance! The RV Project allows me to test this very theory. 15 amp, 20 amp, 30 amp, and 50 amp power connections make zero difference. 2,000 watts to nearly 10,000 available watts, no change. I could comfortably drive dual PB 16 Ultras on a 10 amp circuit. That amp can also compensate for low voltages. It's pretty impressive. To be clear, I was absolutely concerned about the this as well, so I'm not picking on you. Very efficient amps, thankfully!

[@thomasnew8606]

​@@Subwoofer101 Honestly you are not correct by saying power connections (I assume you mean the amperage/power available) make zero difference. Yes a Class D amp is efficient and yes some capacitance built into the amp will help with the large bass peaks. How do you think the amp "compensates" for low voltages??? It does this by less power output of course. Power (watts) = amp x volts For sustained max performance, you have to have the power available to sustain the output. Many other electronics do not have any capacitance so they will pull the power no matter what. You can't ignore simple physics You should buy a "kill a watt" meter to see how much power the subs, or anything are really taking.

[@Subwoofer101]

I have a Kill O Watt meter. Did you think I was pulling it out of my nethers? My Denon X6200, 65" LED 4K TV, dual PB-16 Ultras, and the LED lights behind the TV easily consumed LESS than 500 watts *combined*, while bumping at a pretty good volume, according to the meter. All in all, a pretty efficient setup. My 42 inch plasma TV, in STARK contrast, consumes over 250 watts all by itself! Pretty lousy. I'm aware of this because I'm sizing a solar system for the RV, so I'm aware of voltage/amperage/wattage relationships, as well of the limitations of my flooded lead acid batteries, the losses during conversion to AC, losses from higher consumption, heat and cold, wire size limitations, c ratings, and the importance of Pure Sine AC power as opposed to modified sine. I'm not an electrician, but I'm not going to be fooled into looking for a bucket of ohms anytime soon either. In referring to the amp connections, I'm talking about different power supplies for the RV. Plugged into a shared 15 amp power outlet, then a dedicated and shared 20, then a dedicated 30, and all the way to a dedicated 50 amp power outlet (basically dual 50 amp 120 volt circuits), there is no appreciable/audible difference with the amount of power available with the X6200 and dual PB-3000's. With the system bumping at a serious level, there was easily less than a 1 volt drop according to the meter, when plugged into a shared 20 amp circuit, which also runs our coffee pot, lights, ice maker, and refrigerator in the house. Voltage drop had less to do with the theater than it did with other appliances in use, and the cord length. I won't run at a voltage under 114. Normally 118 in that case. I can, however, run both 15,000 btu air conditioners, a dehumidifier, microwave, coffee maker, my home theater, and still have my wife use her blow dryer on a 50 amp plug. Basically 10,000-12,000 available watts, give or take. It's a 50 amp, 240 volt plug, split to 120 volts. We did this just to see if we could trip a breaker. No luck doing so. With everything else off, and a MASSIVE 10,000+ watts available to run just the home theater alone, there is no audible difference running dual PB-3000's, the Denon, and TV versus a shared 15 amp plug, assuming the same voltage at the surge protector plug that powers the theater. I'm not ignoring physics. If you have a Class A 1,500 watt amp with no capacitance, then yes, you are absolutely correct, you need to consider dedicated circuits. You basically have a space heater that also happens to power your speakers. For the SVS Class D amps, with enough capacitance to keep playing a while (3-15 seconds) when unplugged, and so long as you aren't seeing significant voltage sag from other loads or otherwise, no need for a dedicated circuit, in my experience with these subs. But of course, consult an electrician, and maybe even your doctor just to be safe... =)

[@thomasnew8606]

@@Subwoofer101 Spot on, I just had to dig a little and you provided great info! And yes like you say just because a sub or any audio amplifier says (X) watt output does not mean it actually does that and if so normally for a very short amount of time. I have a Sunfire HRS12 (1000 watt amp) and when playing it very loud, the meter rarely shows over 400 watts. I also have a 50inch Samsung plasma from 2008 that I got on sale for $1,800!!!Haha Talk about a space heater. That think sucks 500watts no matter what. Not our main TV anymore but the picture is great. Anyway, I appreciate your replies and you have a great knowledge. Enjoy the system!

[@Subwoofer101]

Thanks! Yeah 2009 is about when I bought my 42" heater/TV. The 65" LED draws around 100 watts or so, if I recall correctly. Much cooler too. The Denon is easily the warmest device in the mix now.

[@slumking112]

Great video...very informative.....this is the first time I heard it explained clearly about the difference with ported and sealed subwoofers.... I prefer ported over the sealed...as you said going deep vs sounding deep is on point... maybe for spl the pressure created by a sealed box may work better....

[@sermerlin1]

Hey there! I need a bit of assistance with my SVS PB2000. I am experiencing null in the center of the room (happens to be where i'm sitting at to get the proper 40 degrees view). I tried positioning next to the null, i tried positioning different spaces in front i even tried to lift it (on my bed) to bring it to ear level but still i experience null at the center of the room where i sit. Everywhere else be it when i stand up or move forward or backwards half a meters... even left and right i start hearing proper amount of bass. Somewhere worse somewhere on spot shaking. The phase is set to 0 degrees and it has been properly calibrated by audyssey. Without calibration it doesn't blend with the speakers and still experiencing null in the middle. Any suggestion would help! I am siting at about 1.3 meters away from the sub (because it's so huuuge and i'm 1.68 meters in front of my 55 inch display).

[@Subwoofer101]

You just wrote an essay on the importance of dual subwoofers! Probably not what you were hoping to hear, but that's the problem. It's a physics problem, a single subwoofer causes a standing wave and dead spots. As you discovered on your own, it is everywhere in the room, no matter where you go, you will be in a dead spot at one frequency or another. As the frequency changes, the dead spots move to other parts of the room. Pretty much no such thing as a "sweet spot" with a single subwoofer. The only way to resolve it properly is a second, identical sub. You can try my Distance Hack, you might recover a little more lost bass, but the only way to really hear it all is with duals. If you do the Distance Hack with dual PB-2000's, you will hear everything, and the bass will be more even and proper.

[@sermerlin1]

@@Subwoofer101 is there a way to move this null or dead spot somewhere else in the room? Have you had success in fighting the standing waves and nulls with a single sub? Yeah tried the distance hack it improved a bit but not even close to how it sounds outside this null zone. The only other thing i am left with is to try the whole room with placement try to find the right spot? I do have a plan on getting a second sub but currently i'm all outa money and gotta get the rest of the surround speakers including the floor standers :(

[@elieg.8920]

I want to upgrade my PB-2000 for a 3000. I chose that option over going to dual PB-2000 even if I might be wrong.. I hope the 3000 will fill the 4500 cubic room better with higher quality bass. I can't afford dual 3000, but I'm still unsureI If two PB-2000 will sound more satisfying than one 3000. In other words is the difference between 3000 and 2000 considerable enough to upgrade ...what a hard decision...