Succession - Logan Roy’s Toxic Parenting Explained (Season 3)

[@victoriamk6693]

It's also interesting to note that in the episode with the family therapy (1x07 - Austerlitz), one of the Roy siblings comments about how Logan can't swim or never swims because he can't even trust the water. But at the end, we see him clearly able to swim and we see his back scars as the creator included in the video. He doesn't swim around his children because he doesn't want them to see his scars and question them. Perhaps there's some shame there too, but it's so revealing that he doesn't want his children to see him at his most vulnerable.

[@omarpacho630]

It would be brutal but also believable that in the span of 50 years none of his 4 children have ever got to him shirtless

[@raychandler4917]

@@omarpacho630 He mentions to Ken in an episode that he didn't even take off his shirt while making love to his first wife, so it seems that even during the most intimate of times Logan still struggles to be seen as vulnerable

[@Red-Hood]

Yes

[@anylove370]

I think it's really revealing of his personality, especially after Kendall calls him jealous of his own kids. Because when he does it he's clearly talking about being born to riches, but after hearing Logan replying that he never would have gotten away with talking to his uncle like that then seeing his scars; it becomes doubly true. Logan resents his children for not experiencing the abuse he did, while at the same time deluding himself into thinking that none of his actions are similar (which, like, maybe he didn't take a whip to any of them but we've seen and heard about him hitting Roman, once removing a tooth and once with a slipper so, yeah, it's a delusion). His own pride prevents him from being vulnerable enough to share that part of himself with his children, putting more distance between him and them. Ultimately that adds more resentment on both sides because the siblings don't know not to joke about/poke at the subject and he only gets angry that they do. He is, again, blaming them for a situation of his own making

[@bullbunnies]

@@anylove370 i would rather have been between by someone who was stable and consistent then the crazy mind games logan plays. He draws them in to put them down and attacks them for being dependant and refuses to let them be independant

[@MakelliStudio]

I think at the end of the day Logan's true child is his company.

[@JustanObservation]

Great comment

[@sarayousef3944]

Agree

[@Neroli-Arancia]

So true. He's quicker to admit that he loves his company than to say "I love you" to his own kids

[@s_mazey]

Yup. That’s his baby

[@glocksmith226]

I think because he worked soo hard to make it one of the most profitable companies ever, he loves his company it gives positive results and doesn't disappoint Logan, while some losses are made, it still makes Logan one of the most richest people on earth, his children don't see his struggle, his pain to make his company great, they only see his this old man who never gives up and will stay in power as long as he can., his company is his golden goose and he sees his children as someone who will kill the golden goose to take the rest of the golden eggs inside the stomach.

[@DrMadd]

My personal answer to the question “Does Logan love his kids?” is that he does love them but only as long as they remain extensions of himself. As soon as any of them try existing independent of him he lashes out and puts them back in their place. Kendall tries to run the business? He’s tricked into signing it away. Shiv tries supporting a political candidate he doesn’t agree with? He makes her feel as alienated as possible. The reason he despises them for not being killers and growing up in luxury is because of his ego, he can’t stomach that his children’s faults are due to his own failure as a father so he instead chooses to attack their individual character.

[@nursebridgie]

Narcisissm is a b.

[@happygucci5094]

So you’ve met my parents then?

[@linguisticsnerd433]

Wow this is an excellent take

[@lanalayton7576]

Same here. This is my father. He had narcissistic personality disorder. This analysis is spot on.

[@chioma5633]

That’s just not love!

[@ellicel]

This character couldn’t work without someone like Brian Cox bringing him to life. Because the kids’ failures and weaknesses are more readily apparent, I think Logan is the character who most easily could have become cartoonishly evil. His vulnerabilities are more nuanced, seen in his moments of illness. I think Cox brings those subtle notes of insecurity as well as incredible charisma that makes it plausible that he could be both hated and loved. In society at large, when viewing victims of abuse, the most common question is “why do you put up with it? Why do you stay?” I think the excellent writing team does a great job of depicting the complexity of being in any kind of relationship with an abuser…and the cycle of abuse that spans generations.

[@suntanlo-shun1809]

well said

[@bellareid3488]

The frightening thing is people like Logan actually exist in the world. I worked for one of them. Several employees left due to trauma and were treated for mental health issues afterwards. It never leaves you.

[@travis3430]

I noticed Logan was always quick to lash out when his true weakness (his age & failing health) was clear for all to see...when he hit Roman after he mocked him & also when he knocked away shiv trying to propose a toast after a health scare. He quickly wanted to reaffirm his dominance.

[@malayjoshi1098]

Brian Cox is a legend man seriously the epsiode in which he was having UTI in season 3 the acting was masterclass 🔥

[@fatuousinnovatorofsadness4640]

I think the things that really tie him together are both the little moments in the script where he tries to connect with people, and the small moments where we see his exasperation at other people failing to be as cutthroat as he once was. He made it to the top by being cold and heartless - and now that he's there, all he sees are the same kinds of people he had to dehumanize decades ago. Both of these things play off eachother brilliantly, where in one moment he'll ask his child how his life is going, ignoring the gift they're trying to give him, because he wants to connect - and then the next moment he asserts as much power over his son as he possibly can simply because he's frustrated his son isn't as heartless as he was. Genius, genius character work on all of them, Logan especially.

[@youtubedemo5767]

Please do an analysis of Gerri. She is popular but for some reason her character gets overshadowed among fan favourites. She knows how to play the game really well and stay on Logan's good side. An analysis on her would be very interesting. Don't think anyone has done it till now

[@e22ddie46]

I love Gerry. I feel like she's the one who would have won if she was fifteen years younger. She is as slick as anyone and avoids any real damage.

[@emmanuelmondesir1314]

Gerri will never win. Too much of a wallpaper to be on top. She will always be number 2 at best because she's too scared of taking real risks. But damn, what a great character.

[@DudeCrazy198]

@@emmanuelmondesir1314 Exactly, her lack of risks allows her to stay safe, but it's never going to put her at the top

[@adverseinperpetuity]

I don't think she's that interesting. She is highly competent at her job. She is amoral and willing to do what it takes to keep status and prestige. But she has never had any real power and likely never will. She's an excellent employee- nothing more, nothing less.

[@sitori663]

​@@adverseinperpetuity If she was a man would you think differently of the character? Do you say the same about Tom? Gerri seems to have never desired to be a permanent CEO and always figured it would be one of the Roy kids, so she evaluated who she thought she could best work with & control to stay in her position and as a shadow CEO. Logan often asked to consult Gerri on major decisions, more than anyone else by far. So she def had real power & wielded it.

[@Sugarplum99]

“Everything I’ve done, was for my family” (c) Walter White

[@faysuxxss]

Add Tony Soprano too

[@Alex-hm7nt]

Add Marty Byrde from Ozark too

[@cookymarie82]

I've also noticed that similarity

[@noo343]

@@faysuxxss Tony soprano wasnt a great dad okay but in standards of today he was a very good dad he tried his best with honest pure intentions(with his kids) at least 95% of the time he's human same with Walter White now Logan actually is abusive at least mentally

[@faysuxxss]

@@noo343 Tony isn’t a great dad, look at what he did to his son.

[@yveqeshy]

This is exactly why when people dismiss the show is being about a bunch of deplorable rich people they miss out on one of the show's theme about evaluating familial trauma

[@samfilmkid]

It seems like the one person Logan loved was his little sister Rose, who died at a young age. While it's not stated exactly what happened, we can infer from a scene with Ewan that Logan felt responsible in some way. I wonder if this at all contributed to how Logan views family. As if to prove to himself his own responsibility, Logan takes it upon himself to harm everything around him to confirm his own culpability. But he also has an intense need to control everything in the world like a God.

[@anylove370]

I don't think it's true to say that Logan doesn't love his children, or Marcia. He treats people horribly, his own family included, but that doesn't mean he isn't capable of love. There certainly is an interesting story to be told of his own childhood and upbringing, but I see nothing to indicate that somehow Rose was the only person he loved. I think he loves his brother, his children and his wife, he's just bad at doing it

[@olofacosta3192]

​@@anylove370this is shown in season 4 where Logan clearly does miss his kids and their personalities even if he sees them as disappointing

[@e22ddie46]

I still think Logan's reaction to Kendall stabbing him in the back publicly is wonderful. Is there any other time he smiles? Also, the abuse and gaslighting by Logan is wonderful portrayal of an abusive father. Claiming he doesn't even know if he hit his son after punching him

[@Jack_______oh]

There are some other times. Most notably is his absolutely giddy giggling when Roman makes a quip about eating at their mom's place. S2e7 i believe

[@straight-uppodcast3834]

He both wants his children to fight him but doesn’t want to lose. I think he likes the competition more than the idea of them actually beating him. It really all is just a game for him

[@wojtekgawlikowicz3087]

Bro i love your breakdowns of "Succession", they are genueily so enjoyable and so great

[@amklux1426]

Yeah.

[@jackpotdadon]

I agree one of the main reasons why I sub to him

[@jakeman025]

I think it would be so cool if they did a prequel to this show in the 80s so we could see the 4 kids and how they were raised but also to see how Logan builds waystar and all the dirty things he did to succeed. “You have to be a killer” I wanna see that first kill or whoever taught it to him.

[@TimesFM4532]

The issue is Cox couldn’t play him

[@jakeman025]

@@TimesFM4532 even if he could would you want him to? He turned 80 in the show and in the 80s he would be 40. Rather have a really talented actor that resembles him and maybe add some makeup or whatever like farrel did as penguin and make him look like his younger self. The kids casting is more important for a show like this tho imo since it’s harder to find talented ones to pull something like this off. I’d love to see the kettle scene where they put Roman in the cage and fed him dog food. 😆

[@ahabmalik7710]

no... succession works because they never show the past, only in the intro and in what they say about it succession makes a big deal about what is real and what's not and that ambivalence can't be shown through flashbacks or "prequels"

[@voidsff]

Meh instead of dedicating an entire show i think the penultimate season to the final one should do this

[@jakeman025]

@@ahabmalik7710 could say the exact same thing about breaking bad but somehow better call Saul works basically flawless. Stranger things did an entire thing on 11s past and showed it and it worked. 1888 was amazing and 1923 is also really good so far both prequels showing the Dutton family. House of the dragon a prequel where we already know what happens is working. How is this possible for all of these shows and worlds but not succession? The fact that it’s an original story I believe it could work if you had the proper writers and actors with a massive HBO budget.

[@veronicab15]

In the name of all children with narcissistic parents or with parents with narcissistic tendencies, a big thank you to the creators of this show and everyone involved in it!

[@fadplastic]

All of this is true. One thing it’s missing is the psychological mechanics of Logan being a malignant narcissist. In every narcissistic family there are roles. This family is no exception. Shiv is the golden child, Kendall is the scapegoat, Roman is the Mascot, and Conner is the lost child. The show does do an excellent job of demonstrating how narcissistic families operate, especially their biological mother as an enabling partner. The analysis is good, but the center of the show resolves around the power dynamics of narcissism.

[@TenApplesforTime]

I think this is a great point to include. Especially when theres multiple moments in the show where theres an unrelated problem with the company and Logan assumes it's a personal attack or conspiracy to make him look bad.

[@christianrokicki]

The video describes all that pretty much… but without announcing it as such, which is good I think because it puts us in better touch with the bare operations underlying the conditions/positions rather than assigning a set of terms that appear to diagnose and grant understanding. It gives a good picture of how this personality (ab)uses others (compulsively) to meet its needs by engendering similar conditions in others which it cannot tolerate in itself due to this core wound/privation.

[@raymeester7883]

True.

[@alonzomosley7]

Absolutely correct assessment.

[@sneedle252]

Caroline is weirdly even more emotionally violent than Logan. She just turns on a dime and shuts down her children when they attempt to communicate about anything other than surface level things. Logan at least gives them the courtesy of engaging with them manipulatively. I think Marcia actually comes off as the kindest and most realistic person in the group.

[@Gemisnotmyname]

Ive never watched anything so triggering in my whole life. Logan reminds me so much of my father and captures very well what it feels like growing up with a narcisssitc parent and the trauma and abuse endured.

[@rebecca_stone]

Wow, insightful. @2:18 "As far as Logan's concerned, power necessitates the ability to endure pain. The scars on his back are a daily reminder of that. And until you've paid the same price he did or possibly even more, you don't deserve it as much as he does." Perfect summary of how parent-to-child abuse works. Just replace the word "power" with a word of your choice (success, happiness, comfort). It's a jealousy, spite, and a with holding just because you yourself suffered. A twisted form of revenge, but taken out on your own kids. As an abuse survivor, this statement struck a chord for me. Fantastic analysis.

[@alyssagangi5341]

The children also fall under the dysfunctional family roles. Conner is the lost child, often ignored and neglected. Kendall the scapegoat, they throw him under the bus for the cruise scandal and many other times. Rome is the mascot, uses humor to avoid emotions and diffuse tension. Shiv is the hero/golden child, she is most like Logan and has been the most successful of the children outside the company. The children have brought up multiple times how she is the favorite/most preferred.

[@lenasowinska3720]

while I believe that occasionally Shiv might’ve gotten preferential treatment, I don’t think she is the golden child or was ever in plans to be Logan’s successor. She plays more of a “daddy’s girl” role, with Logan enjoying spoiling her, but at the end of the day, that’s one of her shortcomings in Logan’s eyes - she’s a girl. I truly think there was more misogyny then let on in the household, taking some choice insults thrown at Shiv into context.

[@MAli-os2yj]

Shiv is overconfident. That’s perhaps the worst trait of them all.

[@rachels.8051]

Yeah, it’s never a secret which one is the golden child.

[@mimah1015]

Me, my sister and my two brothers. This is our story.

[@Nope2479]

Shiv was NOT the “hero/golden child” 😂

[@ivosalvador3374]

another great essay that makes the series even greater

[@johnstrawb3521]

@ivo Salvador Always important to remember the context, that according to every DHHS Child Maltreatment report ever issued, mothers acting alone are, overwhelmingly, the primary abusers of children.

[@haleybailey5712]

I very much enjoyed this analysis. Although, I don't think Logan was being nice or using kid gloves when he "considered" Connor for the presidential pick. He was just making Shiv and Roman (and Greg) be the ones to shoot Connor down. It's just another instance of him using the siblings against each other.

[@SjajZvezde]

This analysis floored me. Every sentence was spot-on, every observation perfectly substantiated. Bloody well done :D. After this, I'd be very interested in an essay on each child's relationship with Logan individually.

[@jonathanmulondo9206]

Goodbye Logan Roy. Perhaps Television's most loathsome father since Tywin and Tony Soprano

[@munchiekins]

tywin also died in the bathroom right 😂

[@Parallelfifthsblog]

The reason why I couldn't stop watching this show is because Logan reminds me of my dad. The way he talks to his kids was exactly how he talked to me and my siblings. I also have half siblings as well. We're all psychologically affected by the way our father raised us and treated us. Although we're definitely not rich like these kids, but we're well off lol and we use our trauma to power through life 😂.

[@fatherbewithme]

I can relate to Logan's toxicity because back in the day my mom was like Logan Roy in some ways one example of what I mean is whenever Logan is wrong, instead of admitting his wrongdoing to his children he just gets envious, angry, shouts insults & belittle them

[@LaGrossePaulik]

Funny how my toxic mother's favorite character in the show is Logan Roy, calling his children 'ungrateful'. She doesn't see the problem, and I see a lot of similarities between them. They worked hard for the character development, that's something I really dig: a sense of realism. By the way, I've discovered your channel two days ago, and I'm binging your videos! Excellent content, especially loved the BCS and BB series :) Greetings from France!

[@lauraindira8421]

My mom sounds similar to yours. I actually don’t see Logan as So awful bcse compared to my mom, he is not so bad.

[@ionthegreat13]

Honestly, you deserve at least 100k with these high quality breakdowns. Keep it up.

[@aziizrocks]

The best kind of antagonist, or villain in my opinion: -Evil for sadistic sociopathic reasons (nature) where the bad guy is just so evil, there's no reconciliation, and just love to hate, like Ramsey Bolton. -And evil because of outside elements, like upbringing, unjust society, war, love, and lost (nurture). When you hate the villain, but still have sympathy, or understanding for it, like Dracula from Castlevania. And Logan walks a fine line in the middle, where we as viewers understand from his childhood, and yet see his sadism and hate him for it. Brilliantly written, superbly acted.

[@tyler547]

You’ve made this show even more enjoyable for me, as I can now spot out these nuances in the show. Never would’ve realized some of this stuff without your videos!

[@dosman3458]

Holy crap, I never noticed Logan's back scars. Excellent insightful video!

[@nancercize]

Logan is giving his children invisible psychological scars, in a kind of twisted revenge.

[@anylove370]

It's a shame you didn't, because in the context of the episode it really ties everything together. At least you caught them in the essay

[@Lizzie-ve7kt]

It’s interesting how Logan is the one to spoil them and clean up all their messes yet he uses all of these things against them as a way to show that they’re not even close to being at his level. He looks down on his children for being privileged yet he’s the one who footed the bill and it seems as if, at least unconsciously, this is yet another way to establish himself as above or better than his children and to use the material wealth he gave them as justification for his abuse.

[@ahabmalik7710]

Ken read him perfectly on 1x7. he's jealous of what they have( he thinks that they have it easy because of the money and exactly what you said

[@sullivandmitry1416]

Make them beholden to you and you’ll have them in your pocket forever.

[@olofacosta3192]

​@@ahabmalik7710I kinda wish Kendall actually destroyed Logan but in turn becomes more like his father and takes over as the main villain. Would have been an interesting story

[@blucat016]

Logan basically brainwashes his children into being lesser than him. Thus, he rigs the game in his favor, always declaring himself the winner

[@alandiaz5184]

I think the central theme is the conflicting ideas of legacy. Logan thinks his company is his biggest legacy, not his family. But given that he is a mere mortal, he realizes he depends on his family to keep that legacy alive when he dies. The problem is all of his children are deeply flawed in a way that renders them incapable of truly carrying that legacy like Logan wants. The thing is, if Logan had payed more attention to his children as they were growing up instead of to his company, or if he had treated them as family instead of employees, they most probably would have grown up to be worthy successors. But his belief that his company is what's most important, and that things like love and trust are incompatible with power and influence, will prove to be his downfall. He wants to put the children through hoops and humiliate them to ensure they will have what it takes to run his empire, all to make sure that all of his effort and life have not been for nothing. But my prediction is that Logan will get his punishment in the end, maybe not by getting fucked by the successor or by his children, but by losing the only thing he cares about: his legacy (Waystar). I think the most appropriate ending would be the company getting dismantled by the successor (be it family or not), thus rendering all the games and succession drama a moot point. And all of his years of work, the pain and sacrifice he endured in building his company will ultimately be in vain. By treating his family as a means rather than as an end he will ultimately bring about what he most fears. The intro footage would acquire a new meaning, showing that his fate was sealed the moment he decided not to put his family first.

[@zhughes3]

That’s what happened

[@jpatel0398]

Surprised there was no mention of his sister Rose. Even though we barely know anything about her, she's clearly a very sore spot for Logan so much so that Rhea mentioning her at all soured his mood. Even Ewan, with all his resentment against Logan, still assures him whatever happened to Rose wasn't his fault, almost comforting him about it in that moment.

[@olofacosta3192]

I believe rode is part of the reason he was so cold to his children, believing that if they get too close to him they might die too.

[@alixmeek8478]

I'd love to see an updated version of this after Ewan's speech at the funeral

[@jxc3527]

Totally agree. Generational trauma.

[@UnoHoo1]

There are few things worse than ambivalent feelings about a person upon whom you’ve had to depend on for all your needs, (survival) especially during your entire childhood. It can truly tear a person apart.

[@RR-et6zp]

they were built by adversity

[@ryanburks1314]

You’ve quickly become my go to channel for analyzing high quality content.

[@xrockthe40ozx]

I think Logan sums up his worldview when he was asked what his game was and he said "Everybody has a game." Logan gives people games that he never has to involve himself in. Games just to pin his successors against each other. There is no 'game' just a need to occupy others so you can move with complete freedom. By creating this environment of games, wagers, and risk Logan can never be held accountable for overlooking those below him. Their reasoning will always be, If we can't beat him, we are unworthy. When in reality most around Logan are superior in every way. Or if someone gets upset they can just be told, "don't take it personally, it's only a game"

[@EJD339]

After rewatching this show this past week, imo it seems clear as day logan loves his kids and this is the way he shows him. He thinks this is fun and teaches the kids how to be bosses but he is really just damaging them to the point where none of them can have a healthy functional relationship with anyone outside of work. I highly recommend rewatching this show. Probably the best experience I've ever had with a rewatch. I also think that the kids alone are very weak but together they make a great team. I think the series sets this up for us a lot in season 3.

[@vegaobscurax23]

More Succession videos please. I’m sure I’m not alone in rewatching these often.

[@tsoprano4891]

I could just listen to these succession analysis vids all day

[@Bob-fj7lr]

you pointed out the scars on his back, I never noticed them. But there's this sort of motif of slavery in Logans world and life story. During his brothers Eulogy, he mentions being on a boat and having to be silent, only looking each other in the eyes as children, a weirdly similar story as to how African slaves were pilled up on ships like sardines. Obviously he has what looks like lashes on his back. Throughout the whole show he's a slave to his own body failing, the whole first season he can't even leave his room,and when he walks around his own apartment at times, which btw has a cage at the entrance, he's not out for very long before he got back to his quarters. He dies in the smallest room on the plane. In almost every scene he's in some sort of boxed in space, always Ina closed off room, like a jail cell. I don't think in the whole show he is ever off of a private property, like in a store or in the street, and when he is in the street, he's at his just vulnerable. He's left banging on the window of the Pierces car, losing the deal, and at one point when he is outside near the public, he gets hit with piss. He lives in a jail of his own creation in a sense, he doesn't have friends, his kids are abused into needing him, every relationship partner wants something from him, and he can't go out in public.

[@decb9408]

So many of these things went completely over my head when watching the show! I can't wait for your next video to find out what else I've failed to just observe

[@alicevermillion6119]

I feel like this video should have a lot more views!! You always seem so thoughtful in connecting the pieces. I always think about Logan while watching the show and just knowing that he truly believes that his children should be grateful to him-no matter what; this video explains exactly why that is for the Roy patriarch.

[@nmarrs8539]

Whenever hear the phrase “all I’ve ever done is for my children” I immediately think they’re full of shit.

[@mattschaefer7349]

Terrific analysis. Connected many dots for me. The pressure cooker environment involved in running a multi-national conglomerate would be interesting to throw into the mix. They are always in the public spotlight - adds to the external pressure on the characters.

[@offbrands.studio]

The best observation on Logan uploaded to KZbin. Brilliant work.

[@deanthewise]

I love these videos man, none of my friends watch the show so great breakdowns like these are my only way of diving into the incredible depth of this show! Ahaha Keep up the great work 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

[@abbeybranch5792]

I think it would be so interesting if they made a prequel showing Logan’s relationship with his children years before. Knowing who they become as adults, we could see the past actions that molded their personalities at an impressionable age. That and seeing Logan in his prime and just how ruthless he has always been.

[@RR-et6zp]

they were built by adversity

[@truegreenbeard7874]

It's extremely depressing how many reviewers take the side of Logan and call the children spoiled entitled rich kids who never worked for anything. It's disgusting even. People don't get it. Even after watching a TV show that lays it all for them they still internalize the cruel Logan-like dark father archetypal superego and the system that it represents. This video is one very welcome exception but I do wonder if the content creator might shift to the side of Logan when analyzing the other characters.

[@IanCounty11]

They ARE spoiled, entitled, and have too much money that they didn’t work for.

[@annabell_lee]

@@IanCounty11They’re still just traumatized kids that grew up with everything but love

[@IanCounty11]

@@annabell_lee totally agree. They are what they are and we can all argue and agree that it’s not their fault that they turned out to be “entitled, rich, etc.” I just don’t like to sugarcoat it. Those characters are so mesmerizing because of their flaws and imperfections.

[@jam9859]

I mean, Kendall’s 10yo kid getting punched with a can would induce panic

[@TheLucille7]

Spot on observation. Obsessed with this show

[@bottlesofchris]

This show is so good and I was always looking for the human in Logan with no avail. Everyone is so abused and depraved due to the abuse. I was heartbroken for the kids when Logan sold with the help of their mom. Outside of materials, hygiene and shelter they’ve been neglected and abused their entire lives, along with the wealth they inherit that abuse and damage

[@Alex-hm7nt]

Of course Logan "loves" his family. I equate it to the terrible people that have kids and neglects them, but has no issue screaming (usually online, following drama or an episode of neglect) "I love my kids, ill do anything for them!" Like yeah no shit. You're the parent, you're supposed to. Good job at discovering you're not a sociopath, you just shouldn't have kids, at all. I also find it ironic that he indeed gave them everything, but then didn't actually teach them anything, besides having an angle or an advantage over the other person.

[@tedtawk2783]

Awesome use of Mozart!!!

[@sososoprano1]

Trouble is, I sang along with bits of the Lachrymosa so missed what was being said! 😄

[@alonzomosley7]

@@sososoprano1 LOL I was the same with the Tuscan scenery.Too busy watching amazing scenery I had to rewatch scenes.😂

[@preslyekpebe9372]

I get a notification on KZbin and it's you again...... I know exactly what to do. Grab some low key refreshment and enjoy the next couple of minutes consuming your fine content.....Cheers

[@50hellkat2]

Love your description of Logans first son Connor. So good. I agree.

[@orla757]

This channel continuously makes my favorite succession analysis videos

[@mrprimeconsigliere]

You have a gift for seeing 2 layers deep. Excellent analysis as always. Keep it up man!!

[@rmarques1]

I never even heard of this show before I watched some of these videos. These are so well done and I can resonate with a lot of what you're observing.

[@BenderBossGM]

great stuff my guy

[@JustanObservation]

Much appreciated!!

[@ShrimplyPibblesJr]

I suspect the abuse Logan went through crossed every line you can think of.

[@OkLetsPlayTv]

1. The baseball game is very significant. Rewatch it and see how he responds to the kid 2. He reacts to the magazine because he knows Kendall hasn’t earned it. 3. I dont think he is jealous. I think he realises they don’t deserve it. Shiv and Roman realise this in the end.

[@mindbendernine]

Best assessment of Logan Roy I've heard yet. Bravo!

[@kjgaia]

Logan always refers to Roman as 'Romulus'. I refreshed my memory of the story and wonder if it's more than a Freudian hint of a nickname. Romulus and his brother Remus, as babies, are sent away to be killed by their father King Amulius, who saw them as a possible threat to his rule. (Roman was also sent away as a child). They were saved and survived. As adults, they become involved in a possible overthrowing of King Amulius (by Amulius own father, former King Numitor) and Remus ends up in jail. Romulus sets out to free his brother, with the full support of the community. The brothers eventually learn their true identities and join forces with their grandfather to kill their father and reinstate Numitor as king. Romulus ultimately kills his twin brother Remus and went on to found the city of Rome, serving as its first king.

[@Timquan.]

I just got into the series and just finished season 3 And it is great. Also when it comes to physical abuse towards his children, I wonder if he ever touched Shiv. On season 1 after Logan returns home from the hospital when Shiv visited him in his room. He grabbed her hand and moved it to his crotch. That could have just been due to him being loopy and still recovering but later in the season Shiv takes her side dudes hand and abruptly puts it in her pants, which made me wonder if that was an actual thing he did to Shiv when she was younger and it caused her to act that out with another guy. Idk maybe I'm reading into it too much but Logan is horrible and seems capable of anything.

[@pepperpattynaise]

Always thought the exact same thing but hadnt seen anyone put it in words yet. Meybe we will ger some more insight into their childhoods and family lives as kids.

[@sohsiouxmii5945]

I don't think Shiv was abused in that manner as a child by Logan. There's a good reason Marcia doesn't want Shiv to see Logan in his post hospital bed state (though I believe Shiv's mistrust of Marcia in general is justified, hence her disregarding Marcia's advice here. That and Shiv's inherent sense of entitlement). On approaching her dad's bedside, he's in such a muddled state due to his condition and medication, he doesn't have a clue who she is or possibly where he himself is or what's going on. One of the things we see slightly earlier, when Shiv enters the apartment, is an upset nurse being ushered aside. I assume a similar thing had just happened to her. I honestly don't know why so many people jump to this suspicion about characters on tv, with little to no evidence. If any of the kids were sexually (and physically) abused it would most likely be Roman. Bear in mind there can be a fine line between physical and sexual abuse, especially where there's a hierarchical dynamic of discipline & humiliation (dog pound, Boar on the Floor), dominance & submission, etc. and all the head-fʌckery that goes with it. Though anything sexual probably occurred when Roman was sent to military school, where that type of hazing is commonplace. Interestingly, a few eps later (at Connor's with the shrink) we get a brief discussion between Roman and Shiv casually refering to the long-term therapy they've been in, due to their respective childhoods and ongoing experiences they've endured mostly from Logan & Caroline.

[@soundtracksfortheblind9225]

the marcia like about logan building them a playground is really interesting too when you mention everyone they know and trust is on that playground and all will turn on them for logan like Tom does, like Gerri does, and like Frank does

[@malayjoshi1098]

Logan Roy: Everything I do I did for my children..... Walter White : yeah tell me about it

[@catesullivan5626]

The video editing of this essay is perfect.

[@donkylefernandez4680]

All the main characters look like they're on the verge of crying.

[@itsrachwhoelse]

He be playing the shit out of these terrible father roles. puts his whole Bridussy into it

[@bigboldsoul]

Thank you for this succinct and passionate explanation. I can finally rest now.

[@YungM.D.]

One of the best analyses of Logan I’ve yet seen

[@lindamanuel9073]

Thank you for your analysis. As I was listening to your video, I can't help but think about Cornelius Vanderbilt, John D. Rockefeller, and Andrew Carnegie who all probably inspired Logan Roy.

[@amarbyrd2520]

The creators point to the Murdochs. Rupert, Lachlan, etc

[@Falesam]

My wife have a very similar father and watching this series was hard for here, because she was in denial. It help her seek medical help and listen more to people that really love her.

[@999thomas999]

Great breakdown , love it. Keep up the good work 🙏

[@onlinealias622]

My grandma is similar to Logan, minus the whole billionaire thing. It fucked up my mom pretty good.

[@GE0RGECREWS]

The kids fear logan because they know they're expendable to him. But they need to realize logan's fear of losing them. Thats why he sent the donuts to ken's ex-wife house. He knows connor wont betray him out of loyalty, roman wont out of fear of...well fear & shiv is the only girl so she pretty much gets what she want from him to a certain extent. Ken's the only one that'll oppose logan & thats when he plays the dead waiter card. By the way, vid was PERFECT!

[@Gogettor]

4:35 I admire you noticed he's a half brother. Actually at the wedding, Catherine says "your son"..... Which was a bucket of ice water.

[@veronicab15]

That line is the line used by every single narcisist.

[@alonzomosley7]

Great observations on the toxic father.As the Jesuits said Give me a child till they are seven and I will show you the adult.Logan obviously had one f/u childhood.Everybody has to pay retributions.

[@fluffx.]

This so beautifully done that I can't even begin to explain...

[@privatelyprivate3285]

For all his success, there’s ONE giant failure in Logan’s fully conquering the very world his own kids were simply born into - he was simply unable to grasp how power/fortune are only as valid as their transferability into legacy. Plenty of the 1% are too emotionally crippled egotistical to truly love their children, but even they only see themselves as merely entrusted with their legacy rather than its owners.

[@crowncliff]

Logan seems like a Sith Lord looking for the right apprentice among his children.

[@maevewhite4376]

This is such a brilliant analysis. Thank you.

[@edwarddiamond9696]

Perhaps Logan was doing what he *thought* every good father should do - teach his kids how to survive and thrive in the world - the world that Logan grew up in, learned to succeed in, and thought he knew what made it tick, far better than most.

[@modomodo5095]

i love succession videos so much

[@KidFresh71]

Question: in the S3 finale (final scene), how did Tom beat Shiv & her siblings to Logan? The Roy kids were traveling by car and well underway on their journey by the time Shiv leaked the plan to Tom. Did Logan send a helicopter to pick Tom up at the wedding? Why did Tom even need to be there in person?

[@burningrumm]

tom arrived after the entire confrontation between the kids and logan had transpired. i believe he got the information to logan by calling him or something.

[@CorporatePantsula]

Your videos are incredible man. You're intelligent.

[@Julian-jd5yj]

One major disagreement. I don’t believe that he lured Shiv into the company with a false promise. In the scene when they discuss it for the first time AND when he discusses management training, it was a very unique temperament for Logan. I think he wanted that to happen…. On his terms. Shiv HAD it, and blew it. By blurting out at the table it was her, Logan realized she can’t handle it

[@burningrumm]

logan would’ve only given shiv the company if she’d done everything on his terms. nothing shiv would’ve done would have mattered after nan pierce demanded that shiv be made in charge, because all logan could hear was ‘we want your kid to be in charge, she’s better than you’ and his ego couldn’t take that hit. logan wants a puppet, not a person

[@scarface416]

Originally they were gonna kill Logan season 1. Good thing Brian pulled the plug on that

[@Argos-xb8ek]

Realistic Tywin Lannister

[@nathy0308]

Brilliant brilliant every single one of your succession videos

[@elixorvideos]

One key piece of Logan is when Kendall finally decides he wants out, during the time in Italy, and Logan refuses to let him out by manipulating him with the waiter story, that truly shows that Kendall is trapped.

[@Rafffto]

Great video as usual, keep it up man!!

[@nolongerthere]

Great analysis, going deep into the psychology of these very real characters

[@QueenBsKnees]

None of the children were willing to work for the right to run the company. Roman didn't want to be trained by Frank, Shiv balked at doing the management course, running an overseas part of the company and work under Logan and learn from him. Kendall starts Season 1 trying to overthrow Logan rather than learn from him. They lack the skills, are unwilling to learn and are entitled.

[@giggsy42]

Excellent summary, it's helped me unravel Succession

[@halflearned2190]

Awesome work on this breakdown. Thanks!

[@GetOffMyLawn1970]

Very good, enjoyed the break down.

[@nadindakirana5650]

a man who slaps a child with special needs just because he is called "loser" does not deserve recognition

[@bellareid3488]

Love this channel. Insightful, well written, well-produced. Well done, man! Are you Irish? I thought I could hear the accent. As a Dub I can spot it I think ;)

[@JustanObservation]

Chuaigh me go dti an siopa…

[@bellareid3488]

@@JustanObservation LOL ah, that answers that so! Brilliant! Great to hear your voice, literally! Keep up the great vids