Succession | Mushoku Tensei S2 Ep 24 Reaction

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@YaBoyRoshi
@YaBoyRoshi 3 ай бұрын
Season 3 hype!!
@colonelkenpachi5009
@colonelkenpachi5009 3 ай бұрын
Season 3 cooking
@junreymondtingal2346
@junreymondtingal2346 3 ай бұрын
TP4 be cooking
@draconianwyvern5387
@draconianwyvern5387 3 ай бұрын
Type shit
@tanvu2728
@tanvu2728 3 ай бұрын
the scene in the beginning of the episode was to symbolize his fear of being abandoned again like end of S1, this is end of S2, so it mirrors that. He fears regret because the Human god told him one of his decision will lead to regret, losing paul was sadness and not regret, so he dont know what the regret was and thought it might be that his family abandoned him.
@endginuity8391
@endginuity8391 3 ай бұрын
Rudy got a lady in each han- I mean arm
@manuraffo9062
@manuraffo9062 3 ай бұрын
10:24 "You take the balls, I got the shaft" had me crying. I had to go to crunchy just to check it wasn't true. Props to the editor
@Xaviorindi
@Xaviorindi 3 ай бұрын
Spilled my drink when I read that lol.
@acenyang1227
@acenyang1227 3 ай бұрын
What does Eris get then??😂
@someoneinasia
@someoneinasia 3 ай бұрын
as a non native english speaker, can you explain what does that phrase mean?
@acenyang1227
@acenyang1227 3 ай бұрын
​@@someoneinasia🍆
@ArturoRivera2004
@ArturoRivera2004 3 ай бұрын
​@@acenyang1227 the butthole 💀
@danny297
@danny297 3 ай бұрын
THE “You take the balls I got the shaft” EDIT GOES HARD AF LMFAO
@danny297
@danny297 3 ай бұрын
10:22
@freepatreononkenmonoparty7600
@freepatreononkenmonoparty7600 3 ай бұрын
No it doesn't.
@danny297
@danny297 29 күн бұрын
@@freepatreononkenmonoparty7600 699 people beg to differ chum
@desktopbrowser9934
@desktopbrowser9934 3 ай бұрын
17:06 I mean to be fair at the start of the season Rudy was one Soldat kick away from giving himself a tracheotomy with a dagger
@MiraPacku
@MiraPacku 3 ай бұрын
not bro with the medically correct terms 💀
@imjustlikedenji5954
@imjustlikedenji5954 3 ай бұрын
Yeah, the anime cut out a lot, in their conversation the party literally spelled out that Rudy's probably gonna die if he goes on, but they said "hey, he's an adult and strong, he'll pull through" Only Roxy have seen how vulnerable he can be, so she couldn't agree with them To Rudy it wasn't just about Paul's death, it reminded him of his past life, how he treated his parents, anything to do with his life on earth is extremely traumatic to him. He played the hydra fight in his head numerous times, each time thinking what he could have done different, maybe he should have made different choices, maybe he should have dedicated his life to the sword if the hydra had resistance to magic, it basically scratched out all the progress he made and made him think he wasted his life again. Rudy would have been dead.
@Un1234l
@Un1234l 6 күн бұрын
@@imjustlikedenji5954 Everything I hear about the LN vs Anime makes me really hope an anime adaptation could one day do all those points justice. I understand why currently they can't spend all their time and money doing that, but the missing details really do enrich the story.
@khalidofthesand5920
@khalidofthesand5920 3 ай бұрын
10:20 "You take the balls, i got the shaft" IN THE SUBTITLES WHAT?!!! 😭😭
@randomanimations5202
@randomanimations5202 3 ай бұрын
@@khalidofthesand5920 was that in the actuall episode😅
@ImAviex
@ImAviex 3 ай бұрын
@@randomanimations5202 nah its just the editor being a goof they've done that in hella reactions
@khalidofthesand5920
@khalidofthesand5920 3 ай бұрын
@@randomanimations5202 unfortunately no :(
@Solo_Leveler15
@Solo_Leveler15 3 ай бұрын
How did you catch that ?
@mobwow6833
@mobwow6833 3 ай бұрын
@@Solo_Leveler15 Wdym how did he catch that? I'm just gonna assume most people here don't speak japanese and have to read the subs lol
@Akashiko
@Akashiko 3 ай бұрын
Yall forget from the end of season 1 where Eris screamed from a literal mountain top that she loves Rudeus and wants to get strong enough to protect him?
@Venji_0
@Venji_0 3 ай бұрын
forgettable since everyone were in awe after what she did earlier ;0
@jonathanhamlet1942
@jonathanhamlet1942 3 ай бұрын
Nah I remember that scene and their reunion will be...interesting lmao 🤣
@Tobythefirst1
@Tobythefirst1 3 ай бұрын
@@jonathanhamlet1942 I got two wives and a child. You are old news.
@AndresGomez-ct7qb
@AndresGomez-ct7qb 3 ай бұрын
Yeah, and? She still left. As well meaning at is might've been, she still broke his heart and if it weren't for Sylphie he would've been scarred forever. Not that I feel too bad for Rudy since in reality he was a middle aged man losing his v card to his 14 year old cousin.
@lucasvanwijngaarden670
@lucasvanwijngaarden670 3 ай бұрын
​@AndresGomez-ct7qb She was 15, not that it really changes anything
@plebbutter3811
@plebbutter3811 3 ай бұрын
some points to consider for the discussion 15:18 onwards: a) It's shown much more explicitly in the light novel that Rudeus' "love" towards Roxy is still mostly admiration, before gradually developing into genuine love rather than how sudden it feels in the anime. Probably the most important novel-only scene that shows this was a conversation where Rudeus reveals his past life (without saying it was him) to Roxy, and after some discussion Roxy helps him move on from his mixed feelings regarding the mistakes he made. b) After sleeping with Roxy, Rudeus still was intent on leaving her behind, but Elinalise lied and alluded to him that Roxy had gotten pregnant so as to further convince him into not leaving her behind. c) Sheera's point is valid based on what the anime shows, but when Roxy approached him it'd been over a week since Rudeus had eaten; he actually would have ended up dying of starvation if they left him alone. Only Roxy had seen how scared and unresponsive Rudeus became at his lowest, whereas the others had only seen the confident mage prodigy who seemed mature beyond his years. d) This is also highlighted in the final scene at Paul's grave, where Rudeus talks about how he'd just been using his past life to act mature, despite his mental age still being the same as his current life's physical age (keeping in mind that he never developed mentally past the age of 13-14 in his past life due to hiding away from the outside world).
@Ninlix0
@Ninlix0 3 ай бұрын
Anime lacks context bruh Why did they remove the pregnancy part?it was the most important
@shaikfarhan5623
@shaikfarhan5623 3 ай бұрын
😮
@vladimirt.3627
@vladimirt.3627 3 ай бұрын
I heard that in LN Elinalise said to Rudeus, that if he dump Roxy and wouldn't marry her, than Roxy would probably be wrecked, and she would have a relationship with someone who wouldn't love her, and would use her, like that prince from Shirone kingdom, that she tutor. And then Elinalise lied about Roxy's pregnancy. So there was 2 reasons to marry Roxy
@playerjack2566
@playerjack2566 3 ай бұрын
​@@Ninlix0yeah a studio dedicated to adapting a single story shouldn't have any excuse in this matter
@wingsoficarus1139
@wingsoficarus1139 3 ай бұрын
@@Ninlix0 I think the pregnancy part actually sucked because it would've made it seem less like it was out of love and more like it was out of circumstance.
@Emre.55
@Emre.55 3 ай бұрын
Poor Norn must've felt like a crazy person even though she was the only one making any sense lmao The fact that we still don't know what the regret part is scares me too, waiting till 2026 to find out will be torture.
@ietdkvd
@ietdkvd 3 ай бұрын
The rats...
@PrinceEvince
@PrinceEvince 2 ай бұрын
The regret was already had, but flew over my head too until I watched a recap video. The regret was that Rudeus did not appreciate his first life's parents while he still had them, which he did not realize until Paul died.
@jjeteuati264
@jjeteuati264 2 ай бұрын
I was crazed to scroll down on that episode's comments to find no one was defending Norn and just calling her annoying. its like people are okay with unfaithfulness that is completely unjustified
@FnD4212
@FnD4212 2 ай бұрын
@@jjeteuati264 That because she lashing at her is stem from emotional outburst and the believe of Milis religion.
@dryingroses
@dryingroses Күн бұрын
@@jjeteuati264 The anime obviously leaves out a lot of details but if you have read the light novel the relationship between roxy and rudy and the whole love thing seems a lot less sudden and theres just a lot more to it than the anime showed so its understandable people feel this way from the anime only perspective
@ryansmith8102
@ryansmith8102 3 ай бұрын
I totally get it from the anime only perspective. The anime does not do the Light Novels justice, but that's just how it is. As for why the anime made it seem like Sylphy is used to the idea of Rudy probably bringing another woman comes from her time with Rudy's family as well as her time aside Ariel. She saw Paul and his relationship with Lilla and Zenith. Even she spent a lot of time with them while Rudy was educating Eris. Then there's Ariel. The anime left a lot of that stuff from the Light Novels. While she was alongside Ariel, she was surrounded by many nobles that were polygamous. Both noble men with multiple wives and noble women with multiple husbands. Luke Greyrat had an harem of his own which was only very briefly shown in the anime compared to the Light Novels. She had been witness to polygamous relationships ever since she met Rudy's family. It became normal in her eyes over the years. I just wanted to mention this at the very least as the anime over the past 2 seasons hadn't really done much with this part.
@gagrin1565
@gagrin1565 3 ай бұрын
Fitting both of the marriages into one season was always going to be a bit of a stretch. They did better than I was worried about given some of the quality drop in the early s2, but this last arc hits so many important moments and we're literally SPRINTING through them with no room to breathe.
@angeloaliazas2894
@angeloaliazas2894 3 ай бұрын
Thats so true, a lot of details and metric ton of world building was cut so they could make it to the end of the volume. Considering the genuine love Rudy has for his family is also another factor
@zerejescamilla9314
@zerejescamilla9314 3 ай бұрын
I think people put too much about their ideology in modern time monogamy without realizing what you just said, if im not wrong until late 1800s polygamy was practiced, which its ok its their point of view.
@huntersuper98
@huntersuper98 3 ай бұрын
@@zerejescamilla9314 Polygamy is still practiced in many places around the world and it's become more popular as modern generations are becoming less and less religious. Honestly a big part of polygamy falling out of favor is due to religions like Christianity becoming significantly more widespread and with it being the main religion in the US since it's inception it's not wonder that most people are against it as it's seen as mostly immoral.
@thorstenkurafeiski1845
@thorstenkurafeiski1845 3 ай бұрын
From an Anime only point of view, Sylphy is okay with Roxy as Rudys second wife because she was in the same position as her when she met him at the Academy. At that time she thought that Elinalise was Rudys lover and she still wanted to be on his side to get a little bit of love at least. I think that's the reason why she couldn't deny Roxy.
@elliothan5010
@elliothan5010 3 ай бұрын
Something that was skipped from the Light Novel is that Elinaise told Rudy that Roxy was pregnant even though she isn’t which may of led to Rudy having to take “responsibility” of Roxy which may have led to a better reason for his actions(even if they are still wrong).
@colonelkenpachi5009
@colonelkenpachi5009 3 ай бұрын
Bro stop, I've come such a long way from seeing Elanise as for the streets to now seeing her as a respectable woman. Dont tell me this.
@huntersuper98
@huntersuper98 3 ай бұрын
@@colonelkenpachi5009 A lot of people would say a lot of things if it meant making someone they care about happy especially when there are essentially no repercussions for doing so.
@AJay-cant-stop-watching-vids
@AJay-cant-stop-watching-vids 3 ай бұрын
@colonelkenpachi5009 Actually, Elinalise said those things because she doesn't want things to repeat itself. What i meant is that when they were still in the same guild, they have a complicated relationship between paul, ghislane and her. But after zenith joined their guild the three felt out because zenith got impregnated by paul in their first time. Bu sunce zenith is a millis follower, he wanted paul to be loyal to her and then paul decided to disband the guild, leaving behind elinalise and ghislane feelings left out. That's the reason on why Elinalise is so angry at paul. Well they would discuss this on later volume but saying it wouldn't spoil that much. So yeahh Elinalise doesn't want roxy to be left out, because she sees herself at her.
@Enryu_uyrnE
@Enryu_uyrnE 3 ай бұрын
@@colonelkenpachi5009You need to change your outlook on things. No one is perfect. Doing a bad thing, does not make you a bad person. There are no good people, there are no bad people, everyone’s grey. Elinalise was never perfect to begin with
@cottonmather1969
@cottonmather1969 3 ай бұрын
Oh wow then yeah that would actually make the reason for marrying Roxy much stronger. The anime made it seem like Rudy will just marry anyone who saves him from some sort of trauma.
@PlayerOne.StartGame
@PlayerOne.StartGame 3 ай бұрын
Rudeus got the half elf and the blue hair lady before Subaru HEHEHEHE!!!!!!
@palazard95
@palazard95 3 ай бұрын
Damn. Shots fired
@drawingstuff6660
@drawingstuff6660 3 ай бұрын
Lmao
@nugget6820
@nugget6820 3 ай бұрын
Sylphie is actually 1/4 elf, she isn't half-elf half-human, she is 1/2 human, 1/4 elf and 1/4 beastman(beastwoman?)
@ryanread8617
@ryanread8617 3 ай бұрын
Well, in timescale Rudeus has lived like 50-70 years, as Rudeus he lived like now 15-20, how many years until it took Subaru too get you know.. I haven't read manga, so idk if Subaru yet gotten her.
@nugget6820
@nugget6820 3 ай бұрын
@@ryanread8617 He hasn't, Emilia is confused on her feelings and Rem is... Yeah, no spoilers of course. Though there is a what if where he gets all the candidates, Rem and.... Petra in his harem and becomes the King
@ImmortalDaoist29
@ImmortalDaoist29 3 ай бұрын
The best way I can explain Rudy's love for Roxy is that, his admiration towards her CLOUDED his love for her. The anime lacks A TON of context but basically, the time he had with Roxy and specially the deed made him REALIZE(he didn't immediately fell in love to her like how it was portrayed in the anime) his love for Roxy. They also actually had a lot of time together in the Labynrith City and went shopping a lot which wasn't mentioned in the anime(except that one time they bought the roots and sword). All in all, the 2nd half of season 2 is the most rushed as of now. I was actually expecting this part in the ending of season 3.
@cottonmather1969
@cottonmather1969 3 ай бұрын
Yeah I knew it would be missing context. We've been with Slyphy like the entire 2nd season. Meanwhile Roxy has appeared maybe 5 episodes in the whole anime. Hell even the 1st season was pretty much all with Eris. Roxy by far has had the least time with Rudy so I can see why they'd think his reason for marrying her was way too weak.
@zuko1569
@zuko1569 2 ай бұрын
​@@cottonmather1969100%. Delicate situation requires delicate handling. Not treated like a Amazon one day shipping. It'd be much more convincing and easier to accept had the anime put more time for Roxy instead of speedrunning it. Seeing important pieces of information and having the time to be able to process it is crucial for the viewers to emphatize for the characters. Wish S3 would do Roxy justice
@Petard01
@Petard01 2 ай бұрын
It blows my mind that they spent a whole half season on the terrible ED plot which essentially forces the second half of the season to just feel like bullet points being checked off. The pacing was very bad and the sole focus on Rudy's pov makes a lot of the decisions and outcomes feel forced and like wish fulfillment.
@darkmask2717
@darkmask2717 3 ай бұрын
"you take the balls, i got the shaft" IS CRAZY, HELLO? EDITOR?
@gerardogomez2820
@gerardogomez2820 3 ай бұрын
Dudes, Eris literally left to be ready to protect Rudy from Orsted xD
@MisterNive
@MisterNive 3 ай бұрын
It's been awhile for them, so they don't remember. If anyone wants to confirm why Eris left, she literally says why in the last episode of Season 1.
@odns161
@odns161 3 ай бұрын
it gets overshadowed by the way she left Rudy
@qwerty0047
@qwerty0047 3 ай бұрын
@@odns161 mostly cuz we only see rudy's perspective and how her leaving affected him
@Fritz9672
@Fritz9672 Ай бұрын
​@@qwerty0047Eh, I mean she still put him through 3 years of "hell", and sylphie was the one that saved him, Eris is going to need a formal apology and a lot of character development to redeem herself imo
@deathitself6985
@deathitself6985 Ай бұрын
​@@Fritz9672 Even tho it was unintentional she has no clue she hurt him at all. I dont think an apology will be enough on its own i think her training will end up protecting/saving his life from something so that it has a proper payoff since the whole reason she wants to train is to be able to protect him After all she watched him basically die right infront of her and be saved by the whims of someone else
@Jonathan_Collins
@Jonathan_Collins 3 ай бұрын
Turnover Point 4 really turns this story from "a fairly good fantasy story" to "One of the best fantasy stories ever written."
@drawingstuff6660
@drawingstuff6660 3 ай бұрын
Ok chill out
@YKVasilisk
@YKVasilisk 3 ай бұрын
no it doesn't
@jellocrusader6761
@jellocrusader6761 3 ай бұрын
Naw, It does It made MT peak
@invisibleghost7415
@invisibleghost7415 3 ай бұрын
@@YKVasiliskit definitely is the start of mushoku being the best isekai and one of the best fantasy stories
@Flipcrash
@Flipcrash 3 ай бұрын
Eh, your putting too much hype around it
@BandannaDann
@BandannaDann 3 ай бұрын
Elinalise said "he'd get over it" but she doesn't know Rudy that well - he was not going to get over it
@supmugi9
@supmugi9 3 ай бұрын
yeah these guys forgot Rudy about to off himself after he fumbled Sara
@bb300plays2
@bb300plays2 3 ай бұрын
⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠@@supmugi9this episode showed that they really don’t remember a lot of important things like how Roxy helped him in season 1 and sheera saying that he’d get over it like he just didn’t try to kill himself in ep 3 of this season after that whole thing with Sara. Rudy really isn’t emotionally strong when it comes to these things.
@supmugi9
@supmugi9 3 ай бұрын
@@bb300plays2 That's OK I still like them but it feels like they are slowly getting rid of anime shows and going for a more live action reaction channel lately. Maybe the trio is not into anime anymore.
@-COLDRAMEN-
@-COLDRAMEN- 3 ай бұрын
Bro was bouta kill himself with a kid on his way and the other time cuz he fumbled some pumpum. My goat is beyond washed😭.
@MrMan-od9ko
@MrMan-od9ko 3 ай бұрын
@@supmugi9Nah it’s just that this particular anime season is pretty weak. We’ve got Suicide Squad Isekai, Oshi no Ko S2 and Tower God that are probably guaranteed. The rest of the free slots will most likely be occupied by whatever Patreon votes, which seems to be Trigun Stampede, and Dungeon Meshi will replace Slime going forward.
@ataldr4802
@ataldr4802 3 ай бұрын
Congrats your Sylphy evolved into Mylphy
@MrWescottX
@MrWescottX 3 ай бұрын
Indeed
@jjeteuati264
@jjeteuati264 2 ай бұрын
bruh I was dead when Roxy was revealed to be Elderly
@cwonderz8251
@cwonderz8251 3 ай бұрын
Y'all three: "ion want Rudy to have a third wife, that's too much" Me: *waiting for Rudy to bag his third wife* lmfao
@kamikira5454
@kamikira5454 3 ай бұрын
Given what happens in the next season, Eris is more if a husband than a wife. A knight in shining armor at the moment of true despair.
@FnD4212
@FnD4212 3 ай бұрын
​​@@kamikira5454 Yeah, it say Rudeus already move on from his feelings with Eris, but at that moment, he fell in love again with Eris.
@salvos4154
@salvos4154 2 ай бұрын
Rudy considered himself to be a part of Eris' Harem. She bagged him and does what she wants with her other lovers
@alfz9985
@alfz9985 2 ай бұрын
@@kamikira5454next season lmao hate y’all lil B’s
@ChocolateKieran
@ChocolateKieran 3 ай бұрын
Rudy out here collecting his Powerpuff Girls ass harem 😭 he got Buttercup and Bubbles he’s just waiting on Blossom next
@poggy2904
@poggy2904 3 ай бұрын
Seeing Norn and Rudy fighting is such a cool callback to Rudy and Paul doing the same in Season 1! I love the little small details they do, Also figures that Sylphie would be alright with Roxy considering she was raised with it being the norm, Lillia and Zenith both being Paul's wives during her and Rudy's childhood.
@indifference1015
@indifference1015 3 ай бұрын
So Sylphie accepting Roxy was slightly elaborated on in the LN. She was actually happy it was Roxy since she was expecting it to be Linia, Pursena, or Nanahoshi. Sylphie is actually very insecure when it comes to Nanahoshi although Rudy has no attraction to Nanahoshi whatsoever.
@ShiNijuuAKL
@ShiNijuuAKL 3 ай бұрын
well not exactly. Being Roxy was actually a problem because Sylphie felt jealousy towards her, but getting to meet her dispelled those feelings. If it was Linia and Pursena it would be a problem at all apart from them having big boobies. Nanahoshi on the other hand....
@RDR2isTheGreatestGameEver
@RDR2isTheGreatestGameEver 3 ай бұрын
True, but also you need to take in Sylvia's emotions and how she takes it. He loves rudeus and accepts how rudeus feels. We keep taking from our point of view and haven't really looked at sylfie's point of view. How does she see rudeus as why she is so accepting towards this movement. It's literally the same for Roxy. She's willing to share with another woman because that's how deep there's love.
@Un1234l
@Un1234l 6 күн бұрын
@@ShiNijuuAKL Lol that reminds me of what the Man-God said. Wait until the next mating season for the Doldia tribe.... What would have happened if he did that hmm
@theotakuguy2571
@theotakuguy2571 3 ай бұрын
13:48 "Some men, just want to watch the world burn" Roshi is the embodiment of chaos bro 😂😂😂
@seekeroftruth45
@seekeroftruth45 3 ай бұрын
Some men can't stand another man having multiple women.
@iidentity_
@iidentity_ 3 ай бұрын
13:47 roshi on demon time as always
@aresrivera9744
@aresrivera9744 3 ай бұрын
17:10 no he wouldn’t. In the light novels, it was made clear that he was going to die. He couldn’t eat anything. He would just throw it up. Roxy literally saves his life. He was just gonna die of starvation. . Just clear this up forcontext
@andrewsanusi8462
@andrewsanusi8462 3 ай бұрын
I know most people might be conflicted about the whole two wives thing (which I honestly don’t blame them for) but I’m lowkey kinda wanting to see how this will work out and if Sylphy is cool with it than who I’m i to judge.
@priestofthighs3013
@priestofthighs3013 3 ай бұрын
Interested if she'd be fine with Eris as well, assuming she also becomes his wife
@BrandonHeat243
@BrandonHeat243 3 ай бұрын
Ehh. Doesn't bother me. It's a medieval fantasy setting so it's not really that strange. And it was already established it's not that abnormal in that world by Paul. I don't get why people are so outraged. I don't recall anyone clutching their pearls that hard when Uzui's wives were introduced. At most people were like "lol that's crazy" and got over it rather quickly.
@thorstenkurafeiski1845
@thorstenkurafeiski1845 3 ай бұрын
The real question is why the man god didn't want that Rudy met Roxy.
@aissatousy338
@aissatousy338 3 ай бұрын
@@thorstenkurafeiski1845 that my friend will not be revealed till next season
@thorstenkurafeiski1845
@thorstenkurafeiski1845 3 ай бұрын
@@BrandonHeat243 Getting mad about a fictional character in a fictional story is crazy.
@QuarterbackTCG
@QuarterbackTCG 3 ай бұрын
19:00 I believe yall are underestimated his ptsd and the compounding trauma. Rudy went blank and almost offed himself after sara. Despair may lose grip on the strings but those hooks are embedded forever.
@hackt3d
@hackt3d 3 ай бұрын
Penetration and Harem pedophilia is his cure for Trauma 😂
@juanvindas5830
@juanvindas5830 3 ай бұрын
Rudeus asking the rest of the party to stay like he's not about to unleash a nuclear drama bomb in that house.
@iidentity_
@iidentity_ 3 ай бұрын
Norn's reactions this episode almost made me tear up fr
@magnisgd
@magnisgd 3 ай бұрын
her va popped off
@TheAssassinbatosai
@TheAssassinbatosai 3 ай бұрын
VA deserves an award for that scene alone.
@_another_day
@_another_day 3 ай бұрын
Only person with common sense in that family she got it from her mother fr
@TheMarch-jn3rz
@TheMarch-jn3rz 3 ай бұрын
How? Her father forced himself onto his second wife when they were younger and then got her pregnant while he was married but ok. Pretty sure they implied he raped her. Love how people just forget that.
@shadycactus7896
@shadycactus7896 3 ай бұрын
@@TheMarch-jn3rzHuh, bro didn't rape her. She literally entered his room willingly
@brandonjoseph1445
@brandonjoseph1445 3 ай бұрын
Rudeus entering Fatherhood: Congratulations 🎉🎉🎉
@16soccerball
@16soccerball 3 ай бұрын
If rudy brought nanahoshi as the second wife. Then there would be a problem
@MinscS2
@MinscS2 3 ай бұрын
-Milfy- Sylphy really grew on me this season, both as a character and as a anime waifu in general. Rudy's lucky to have such a compassionate, understanding, open-minded and, let's be frank, cute wife. Loved seeing the detail of Roxy and Norn holding hands during the birth-scene as well. This family will be alright I reckon.
@seanpierce4566
@seanpierce4566 3 ай бұрын
I scrolled down a bit to see if the original discussion of 'Rudy's reasoning to marry Roxy' was touched on much and didn't see but a couple of snippets. Suffice it to say, the Light Novel just has more content that explains states of mind, perspectives, dialogue that was cut, etc. ((This is a big info dump of explanations of unseen events and unheard dialogue, spoken or thought. There's youtubers who cover this and this info is spread around in smaller comments already, the one I'm thinking of at the moment being @AniNews. No need to read my post, I'm just summarizing what I can.)) 1: This is the most important point for viewers to keep in mind throughout the rest of the anime as well: Rudy is what's called an *Unreliable Narrator*. This is a narrator who is either intentionally deceptive or unintentionally misguided. In this case, Rudy - throughout his storytelling - lies to himself and, thus, to us. This is part of his character as a flawed human being; he was not a mentally healthy person going into this world and much healthier folks lie to themselves regularly. Rudy subconsciously distances himself from the concept of parentage. He considers his mother as just 'a mother I happened to be born to' and his father as 'a flawed man - basically younger than me - that's kinda a bad father'. He tries to not care about his mother and shows little respect for his father. But this is lying to himself (and has a lot to do with the death of his real parents, which would take a lot of analyzation to explain). Instead, we can see that after Eris left him, the memory of his mother was what pushed him forward. And now we can see that what he thought were his feelings about his father were wrong. His father's death DEVASTATED him. He refused to eat or leave his room. He refused to speak to anybody and didn't even register others' presence. Asleep, he would have nightmares of Paul's death, while awake he would spiral in thoughts of how he failed and questions of his real parents and his grief and regrets from then. He was caught in a whirling quagmire of horrific nightmares and self deprecation. To put it into perspective: he was mentally worse off after Paul's death than when he was stripped naked and tied to the school gates during his bullying, growing close to the point of death by starvation. 2: There's a lot of cut dialogue leading up to Roxy confronting Rudy. Mainly about how many options the party brainstormed about resolving his condition. The one they were sure of was having someone sleep with him, but Elinalise refused (and then had to explain why to the party, revealing Rudy's marriage), and the party decided prostitutes wouldn't get through to him. So they gave up and figured he'd be fine. Roxy still believed in the idea because, based on his isolationism as a child, she knew he wouldn't be able to find his own way out. When it came to the action, there was more dialogue as well: Roxy explained how a friend of hers died in the past, too, and how she could share the grief. This was important for 2 reasons: It showed Rudy that he could eventually recover from this, however hard and long the road would be. It also let Roxy frame her advances as a way to assuage *her* grief at losing Paul, a party member, which was bringing up memories of her other friend. She was preying on Rudy's empathy in order to pull him out of his lethal depression. 3: This one is big: Elinalise told Rudy that Roxy was pregnant afterwards, while traveling back home, when Rudy was being indecisive. He was leaning towards taking responsibility for having done it with Roxy anyway, but Elinalise lied about this to push him over the edge. Elinalise is as much Roxy's best friend in the story as Sylphie's grandmother, and she wanted both of them to be happy. In a world where Monogamy is the minority, she saw a second marriage as an obvious and simple solution. 4: When Sylphie claimed that she 'knew it was only a matter of time before Rudy brought back another wife' and explained it was because of 'how dirty his mind is', that's only half the actual explanation. I find it sad they left the rest out: she thought it was only a matter of time before he _did it with another woman_ because of how *perverted he is*, whatever the circumstances were, but the reason she thought he would _bring another wife home_ was because she knew Rudy is responsible and honest enough that *he would try to do the right thing*. And, to Rudy, that's probably going to be 'taking responsibility'. In fact, Sylphie was correct - Rudy thought he had gotten Roxy pregnant, so he decided he would take responsibility. And he didn't try to beat around the bush or soften the blow or explain until after he had made his intentions honestly known right from the start. She explained it like this to show how much she accepted and trusted Rudy, even through his rather obvious flaws. 5: There's some time jumps in the last bit of the episode, so I'll fill in a generalized recap of how Rudy's time went after bringing Roxy home: *he was in the dog house*. He also had a self-imposed celibate period as punishment for himself, and took his betrayal of Sylphie's trust by breaking their promise extremely seriously. 6: As we can all expect, Rudy is not going to stop there. It's pretty obvious what'll happen, but the how will be a journey we all get to experience. Just keep in mind: _Mushoku Tensei is about a flawed human getting a second chance and living his life always trying to be a better person._ He will never be perfect and he'll make mistakes, lie to himself, and fail over and over again because that's the point the show is conveying around Rudy's character. And despite all that, he's still a good person because he is always trying to be a good person.
@ataldr4802
@ataldr4802 3 ай бұрын
Norns VA going crazy this episode
@zaccoryhixson3473
@zaccoryhixson3473 3 ай бұрын
Anyone else see that edit with Sylphie telling Roxy to take the Balls, and I got the shaft? 🤣🤣🤣(10:22)
@uberark3153
@uberark3153 3 ай бұрын
pay that man more please
@jonathanhamlet1942
@jonathanhamlet1942 3 ай бұрын
Editor-san was wrong for that!!!!😂😂😂😂😂
@jewelabyss
@jewelabyss 3 ай бұрын
Rudeus was like: Yeah, we lost a family member, so I brought in a new one😆
@BigFry9591
@BigFry9591 3 ай бұрын
Rudy was in love with Roxy since day 1. He literally made a religion out of her. So it wasn't a spur of the moment thing at all. It's been something happening for a while now. XD
@kurimiaisukurimu
@kurimiaisukurimu 3 ай бұрын
13:48 Roshi wants a Turning Point 1 Redux 💀
@karamarcas9482
@karamarcas9482 3 ай бұрын
"You take the balls, i got the shaft" Rudeus saving the tip for Eris
@Im_Jaeger
@Im_Jaeger 3 ай бұрын
I cant wait for the switch up when they see adult Eris lol
@Professor_Wisteria_
@Professor_Wisteria_ 2 ай бұрын
idk if you guys forgot but at the end of last season, Eris quite literally screamed from a mountaintop that she was going to get stronger because she loves Rudeus and wants to be able to protect him from everyone in the world, including Orsted. it makes sense you might have forgot because we're stuck in Rudy's POV the whole season but she genuinely, DEEPLY loves him. she's just SHIT at expressing herself through feelings so Rudy took her note the wrong way. by this point in the Light Novel you learn that she is ruthlessly training herself in a renowned swordsmanship town in order to become strong enough to cut down Orsted. and her sole driving motivation is to return to Rudy and stand as equals with him on the battlefield. she's coming back eventually, but she's gotta become a monster of the blade first
@Tounushi
@Tounushi 2 ай бұрын
let's hope and wait for the OVA. I hope it covers when she showed up at the Sword Sanctum and Nina's little quest.
@Professor_Wisteria_
@Professor_Wisteria_ 2 ай бұрын
@@Tounushi I remember popping off in my chair when they showed Nina, but they just brushed right past it and kept moving on with Badi lmao I can't wait to see the whole Sword Sanctum arc and watch Eris grow
@endginuity8391
@endginuity8391 3 ай бұрын
Norn: how could you take another women?! Paul in his grave: cough cough
@juice6521
@juice6521 22 күн бұрын
Notice how her sister was quite through this whole exchange lmao
@Sonacnights
@Sonacnights 3 ай бұрын
The parallel for how much Norn has matured, and the way she strikes at Rudy during practice extra hard because of the second wife deal is just like when Rudy and Paul trained after Paul was busted for bustin'. It's neat how the dynamics play out.
@enlightenedsloth9800
@enlightenedsloth9800 3 ай бұрын
Norn said "Take yo grown ass back to the streets" (I don't hate Roxy btw) I don't wanna get on her bad side 😭. I loved this season overall though. Rudy about to have the RGB collection after season 3, I can feel it.
@Akashiko
@Akashiko 3 ай бұрын
Rudy is a real gamer
@fcgHenden
@fcgHenden 3 ай бұрын
Cooked 20 years' worth of that shit in a single room.
@marmyeater
@marmyeater 3 ай бұрын
Anime Sylphie: Thank you for thinking of me Norn. Novel Sylphie: Norn, please be quiet. You don't speak for me, and you're being too harsh.
@hackt3d
@hackt3d 3 ай бұрын
Anime version is more realistic and better. Poor Sylphie and poor parents sacrificed for Harem fantasy.
@marmyeater
@marmyeater 3 ай бұрын
@@hackt3d no it's not
@FTXCrimson3929
@FTXCrimson3929 3 ай бұрын
NAH your editor is hilarious for putting "you get the balls, i got the shaft" that had me rolling in my bed 🤣
@SShadow2345
@SShadow2345 3 ай бұрын
There is a lot of inner dialogue that was skipped in previous episodes that gives a lot of context on how much the death of Paul affected Rudy, how much he struggled to overcome that situation and how long it took (a couple of weeks) until Roxy helped him accept the outcome of his trip to rescue his mother (this isn't regret, but depression). About the decision to make Roxy his wife , there was also some content that was skipped, particularly something that Elinalise tells him. There is also some dialogue and some of Sylphie's inner monologue in this episode that was skipped. Sylphie already thought that at some point Rudy was going to bring another woman (she thought it was going to be Rinia, Pursena, or Nanahoshi), and she has accepted that possibility since then. The surprise was that it was Roxy and not the others. Also, she was way more stern when telling Norn to shut up, saying that she wasn't even mad and that she shouldn't be insulting Roxy. When she accepts Roxy into the family, they promised to treat each other as equals (no one is the first or second, both are Rudy's wives).
@Yabooijohnny
@Yabooijohnny 3 ай бұрын
only person i can think of to teach Norn the sword is Eris
@jachetugaming9840
@jachetugaming9840 3 ай бұрын
I like their takes and thoughts at the end of each episode, as a group there is a lot of coherence between them which is pretty nice, big reason why this is one of the few reacting channels I still watch
@shelteringyou
@shelteringyou 3 ай бұрын
to anyone who has a problem with Rudy's polygamy just drop the show and stop crying about it
@SeanTFlynn
@SeanTFlynn Ай бұрын
The biggest flaw in the anime is that the LN gives so much more context to Rudy's inner thoughts. Like almost to the point where it's too much information which would be next to impossible to include in the show. Honestly it's similar to movie adaptations from books where a whole lot of context is lost because you aren't listening to the characters thoughts 24/7
@deathitself6985
@deathitself6985 Ай бұрын
They should have given more weight to Rudeus starving himself to death shut in that room. Him not hearing/listening to anyone at all when they tried to talk to him before Roxy. etc It felt too quick because of the pacing
@iversonpalines6918
@iversonpalines6918 3 ай бұрын
season 3 is full of surprise. can't wait for you guys reaction. ERIS COMIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@ElyonDominus
@ElyonDominus 3 ай бұрын
"If he does that with Eris.." My guys, if you have seen the cour 1 OP you know exactly what's going to happen.
@deathitself6985
@deathitself6985 Ай бұрын
To me when Sylphie started thinking about Rudeus being a Notos too thinking "He will probably chase girls after being married" even before their marriage made me go like aight thats where we going then makes sense
@l30nard03
@l30nard03 3 ай бұрын
Season 3 is going to be so 🔥 🔥🔥
@CamLockedIn
@CamLockedIn 3 ай бұрын
i think a lot of people forget the fact that rudeus and roxie’s relationship is very similar to sylphie and rudeus. roxie is the one person rudeus respects the most and at the beginning of the season sylphie essentially thinks of rudeus in that same light.
@Ricardo_Rick
@Ricardo_Rick 3 ай бұрын
I loved this episode, well, this whole season, it was incredibly good and i hope it doesn't take long for a season 3. Norn was indoctrinated by the church and was grieving for Paul's death, so it makes sense she would lash out, especially since she usually is very vocal about things. I also liked that Sylphy didn't care about it and accepted Roxy with open arms, after all like she said it herself, if she and roxy had switched places and Rudy was like that, she would 100% do the same thing Roxy did, and we all know she would, since she knew that was a way to cure Rudy and did that herself. Some may think it was convenient, but it was not out of character for her tho
@LloydRyannS
@LloydRyannS 3 ай бұрын
Bulbasaur and Squirtle acquired easy mode. I can't wait to see how Rudy can Handle Charizard
@Benxall
@Benxall 3 ай бұрын
Fun fact, I'm the novel, while happy over the result, Rudy was devastated over the fact Syplhy had ZERO faith in his staying faitful
@Tounushi
@Tounushi 2 ай бұрын
And she continued to barb him about him for some time. She might've meant it as banter, but he went into seiza each time.
@angelosmith2019
@angelosmith2019 3 ай бұрын
The item in the room at the teleportation circle looks like it's Dragon God Orsted's jacket. Since he knows where they are and does use them.
@l0kk016
@l0kk016 3 ай бұрын
Yeah in the novels Roxy pulled a "I'm pregnant" trick on Rudy and that was why Rudy decided to marry her, but anyway Actually the way they deal with Eris is pretty cool, just hoping they do the Oldeus diaries justice
@terencebarnes7393
@terencebarnes7393 3 ай бұрын
Yea based on they’re complaints about his reasoning him wanting to because she was pregnant would made more sense.
@miguelrodriguezgonzalez6396
@miguelrodriguezgonzalez6396 2 ай бұрын
Ok tbf that was on elinalise 😂😂
@xenotypos
@xenotypos 3 ай бұрын
I love how they wouldn't ever doubt HIM (yes, him), no matter what. He did a good job earning the trust of the anime watchers.
@bb300plays2
@bb300plays2 3 ай бұрын
Assuming you’re a WN/LN reader when you say him you mean HIM right?
@andrewforman7809
@andrewforman7809 3 ай бұрын
10:21 the subtitles you guys put in 💀💀💀💀💀
@brandonwong8614
@brandonwong8614 3 ай бұрын
I like how Norn is essentially The YT controversy POV about Roxy in anime form, and not having any with Rudy defending Roxy
@saiyanobe23g6
@saiyanobe23g6 3 ай бұрын
I wasn’t surprised Rudeus slept with Roxy while Slyphiette was pregnant with their child and then wanted to have her as his second wife. He’s like Paul in many ways, like father like son I guess.
@Ticking-time-bomb
@Ticking-time-bomb 3 ай бұрын
In his defense Rudy loved Roxy first, she was the one he worshipped...than his hero arrived who he was close to since his bad days of distrust & she saved him from his current trauma making him fall in love out of desperation to feel needed. Parelleling Roxy falling for Rudeus kinda the same way.
@ElyonDominus
@ElyonDominus 3 ай бұрын
@@Ticking-time-bomb Also the entire group gaslit Rudy into thinking he got Roxy pregnant. That was the impetus for him to marry her. They changed it last episode but gave us the scene as if the "pregnancy" was still canon.
@JoseAMatos-us6wo
@JoseAMatos-us6wo 3 ай бұрын
Bruh, the guy was literally a thirty-something in a baby's body, stop making him sound like he went through a normal childhood. His "father" is literally younger than him.
@ElyonDominus
@ElyonDominus 3 ай бұрын
@@JoseAMatos-us6wo He did go through a normal childhood, presumably twice. Normal for the worlds they were in. What happened was that he stopped advancing at about 15. Then he was reborn into a new body and only had memories to go off of. That makes him a child with adult memories not an adult.
@TheMarch-jn3rz
@TheMarch-jn3rz 3 ай бұрын
Paul was far worse but people are attracted to him so of course he was forgiven
@PoopSagots
@PoopSagots 3 ай бұрын
Gonna be eons till we hear Sheera's "JOBLESS REINCARNATION"
@adrianodias1725
@adrianodias1725 3 ай бұрын
Yes, the anime didn't adapt some important things like Elinalise telling Rudeus that Roxy was "pregnant", this really gives Rudeus a push to take responsibility, taking Roxy as his wife. This is not a spoiler, as it should have already been shown. The anime simply didn't adapt this part. Furthermore, the relationship pattern in this world is quite polygamous, except for millis followers. Love the anime anyways🙆
@dopeman4ever
@dopeman4ever 3 ай бұрын
The author changed things from the episode for the better imo. Lying saying she was pregnant is trash
@ShiNijuuAKL
@ShiNijuuAKL 3 ай бұрын
thank god they skipped that, it wasn't needed
@gundam42d64
@gundam42d64 3 ай бұрын
​@@dopeman4ever Going to be interesting if many reactors see this detail. People forgetting Paul knew what was going to go down couldn't been stopped trying to prep Rudy for it and Elinalise really pushed hard as it's in character for the both of them. They are both degenerates. Norn is like the only sane normal person in the room.
@ronanmatthewganal
@ronanmatthewganal 3 ай бұрын
The storyline is amazing and the connection is flawless. Even if 😢there is a silver lining in it.
@dontmindme3103
@dontmindme3103 3 ай бұрын
Well to summarize, Sylphy knows the man she married, people are gonna hate what happened but this is much better than Rudy stealing time just to visit Roxy. Hate whatever you want but from the very beginning, Sylphy already mentioned that she's completely fine with Rudeus bringing another wife. If you can't bear with it then don't watch it.
@Ramen783
@Ramen783 3 ай бұрын
16:35 Fr. As a LN reader, I agree where Roshi is coming from regarding the reasoning behind marrying Roxy. Especially with the weaker story provided in the anime. I hope that future seasons will bring the other characters’ perspectives since it fleshed the story out a lot more in the LN.
@deathitself6985
@deathitself6985 16 күн бұрын
😂 Mangod tried his best
@Cik334
@Cik334 3 ай бұрын
The biggest L of the episode was them cutting out all of Dilo's scenes, The armadillo that's pulling the cart. Rudy ends up bonding pretty heavily with it on the trip back and instead of leaving it in the desert to get eaten, Rudy took it with him and he ended up becoming a very beloved family pet.
@FnD4212
@FnD4212 3 ай бұрын
Yeah, Dilo there until the end of LN. I wonder if they skip Beet too....
@miguelrodriguezgonzalez6396
@miguelrodriguezgonzalez6396 2 ай бұрын
Sadly a matter of how much they are adapting, it might get better by the second cour of s3
@Tounushi
@Tounushi 2 ай бұрын
@@FnD4212 I think it's gonna be pretty hard to skip (a) Byt after S3C1...
@Tounushi
@Tounushi 2 ай бұрын
Not just a beloved family pet, but Roxy's car.
@kmfenix
@kmfenix 3 ай бұрын
apparently in the light novel after Paul died Rudy was actual starving himself of literally everything because of grief like he just woke up and sat there, and he was 100 percent gonna die if Roxy didn’t pull him out of it
@kmfenix
@kmfenix 3 ай бұрын
Also rudy was lied to and told that Roxy was pregnant
@sergioblanco3799
@sergioblanco3799 3 ай бұрын
Silphy's mind set is like that because polygamy is the norm in this world, for her, that's normal and acceptable, only Milis followers believe otherwise. I find funny how people gets upset by that.
@MisterNive
@MisterNive 3 ай бұрын
Let's give some credit to Sylphie too, she's naturally someone who thinks about others' feelings more than her own. So just because someone isn't a Millis follower, it doesn't mean they'd be okay with what transpired. For example, if Roxy was the first wife, I'm not so sure she'd be okay with what Rudy did.
@anonymouslyforgotten5592
@anonymouslyforgotten5592 3 ай бұрын
The issue is that Slyphie never “wanted” him to do it, she just “considered” the possibility of him doing it. She even asked him not to do it, meaning she wanted to be the sole recipient of his love. She only accepted cuz… well, she’s a pushover (at least when it comes to Rudy) 🤣 I think the main issue here is “how” the polygamy happened. If Slyphie showed support for it from the beginning, and Roxy got a few more episodes of development, I wouldn’t have as many mixed feelings on it. Plus, the fact that the anime portrayed Roxy as someone who takes advantage of people in mourning didn’t help. Disregarding the initial season, Slyphie got the whole season to develop a relationship with Rudy and Roxy only had 2-3 episodes. The anime simply didn’t give me enough reason to be 100% on board with it.
@xavmanisdabestest
@xavmanisdabestest 3 ай бұрын
People are upset with poly people irl too tbf
@MisterNive
@MisterNive 3 ай бұрын
@@anonymouslyforgotten5592 A bit too uncharitable of a take but whatever. You're not supposed to be 100% on board with it anyways, even Rudy knows that if Sylphie decided to divorce his ass, he'd deserve it. He knows this only works because of Sylphie's generosity and kindness. This is part of his inner thoughts from the LN.
@shadycactus7896
@shadycactus7896 3 ай бұрын
@@xavmanisdabestestMost polycules end up terribly at the end
@justinpehala2740
@justinpehala2740 3 ай бұрын
Sylphies only concern was that Rudy wouldn't love her anymore but when she saw that he'd love them both she was fine with it ❤
@anonimnim3476
@anonimnim3476 3 ай бұрын
gotta catch 'em all
@wingsoficarus1139
@wingsoficarus1139 3 ай бұрын
Sylphy knew what she was getting into when she married the guy
@LWSKTP
@LWSKTP 3 ай бұрын
Loved this season
@moonlexsanders
@moonlexsanders 3 ай бұрын
so, clarifying some points that you guy said at the discussion, by some information i got from some ln readers: -rudeus was killing himself after paul's death. he stayed 10 days without eating or barealy drinking because of his depression. -despite in the anime elinalise said to roxy that "rudeus would be ok", actually the opposite happens: elinalise and geese were very worried of his situation and she was the one who said that sex is what would fix rudy, and *she herself* proposes roxy to do it. -after that elinalise felt guilty about roxy's situation. she knew that roxy dreamed of finding her perfect match, because of the time they spent together. so she pretty much persuaded rudy to marry her by saying that roxy hadn't started her period, and that she might be pregnant, not to mention the chance of someone taking advantage of roxy if she separates from her lover.
@shadycactus7896
@shadycactus7896 3 ай бұрын
This makes the situation even worse lmaooo. They manipulated Rudeus so that he married Roxy
@ShiNijuuAKL
@ShiNijuuAKL 3 ай бұрын
"actually the opposite happens: elinalise and geese were very worried of his situation and she was the one who said that sex is what would fix rudy, and she herself proposes roxy to do it." This is completely wrong. - it was geese the one who sugested someone to sleep with Rudeus - NOBODY even remotely imply for Roxy to do it, she came to that decision completely by herself after being presented with a possible solution and didn't tell anyone before doing it. - Talhand was the one saying "Rudeus is going to be ok, He is Paul's son", Geese and Elinalise agreed with they were clearly not hopeful about it, it was more a "I hope so" than "yeah that's totally how it is going to end" - Elinalise didn't feel guilty about anything, she just wanted for everyone to be happy and that's why she did what she did. - "he chance of someone taking advantage of roxy if she separates from her lover." it is implied that Elinalise experienced something similar
@terrelllittle668
@terrelllittle668 3 ай бұрын
JUST KNOW THERES ALWAYS MEANING TO THE MADNESS IN THIS SERIES LOL
@figbloppa7183
@figbloppa7183 3 ай бұрын
The author must have spent a lot of time trying to figure out the f to justify Rudeus and Roxy
@ShiNijuuAKL
@ShiNijuuAKL 3 ай бұрын
time wasted, he should've just own it and have Rudeus bring another wife without excuses (well, and not fuck her until then)
@FnD4212
@FnD4212 3 ай бұрын
Doesn't need to, if wives consent, then there is nothing wrong.
@hackt3d
@hackt3d 3 ай бұрын
He simply killed Paul Greyrat so that there is an excuse for the comfort sex . Make the mom brain dead so she couldn't object to the bigamy and cheating. He clearly sacrificed the parents for the pedo harem to be executed 🤮
@faikromid1970
@faikromid1970 3 ай бұрын
It was foreshadowed since season 1 and in part 2. In the same season, both sylphy and Roxy Were foreshadowed that they'll marry rudy.
@terminator35678
@terminator35678 2 ай бұрын
@@FnD4212 The problem isn't Rudy ending up with Sylphie and Roxy, the problem is at least they way it was done in the anime, it left a lot of context and build-up behind leaving the conclusion to feel forced, rushed, and poorly executed. Making it seem like Sylphie's lowkey a doormat that's just kinda okay with whatever Rudy does and the entire marriage proposal feel outta nowhere. Things that could've fixed this IMO based from the LN: -More focus on how depressed and devasted Rudy was dealing with Paul's death i.e. people giving him food but refusing to eat for weeks, locking himself up in his room till Elinalise advices Roxy to "comfort" him -Elinalise telling Rudy that Roxy is pregnant (pressures him in his pov to actually go through with a marriage proposal) -Sylphie speaking up for herself and scolding Norn when she was lashing out (Shows that she has agency, a backbone, and showcase that really IS okay with the Roxy marriage)
@Haziqspy
@Haziqspy 2 ай бұрын
Shira: I don't think Eris would want him anyway LN reader: Oh boy......
@Tounushi
@Tounushi 2 ай бұрын
It's gonna be funny when she finds out a certain somebody showed up at school because SOMEBODY didn't know how to STFU about Rudeus...
@williamhardee8863
@williamhardee8863 3 ай бұрын
Rudy isn’t supposed to be a perfect character who does the right things every time. The man is literally said to be a lolicon at the beginning of the series, Rudy being selfish with his desire to marry Roxy is the point. Just because the characters in their alternate world are able to justify all of it doesn’t mean we’re supposed to. Rudy is a realistic character, he started off incredibly scummy, and he’s a better person at this point but he’s not magically perfect now. He still has a lot of maturing to do.
@ietdkvd
@ietdkvd 3 ай бұрын
He actually married her because Elinalise tricked him into thinking that Roxy was pregnant, hence why he tried to take responsibility by marrying her
@williamhardee8863
@williamhardee8863 3 ай бұрын
@@ietdkvd I’m an anime only, so I’m just going off what the anime has established.
@redroman4214
@redroman4214 3 ай бұрын
@@ietdkvd even disregarding that fact about Elinalise tricking Rudeus into marrying Roxy, I wish they didn't skip the content about Rudeus and Roxy actually falling in love. It would've been so much better so that people won't get the same impression Roshi, Sheera, and Lupa did about the situation.
@TheExitStrategy
@TheExitStrategy 3 ай бұрын
Sylphy had already talked about Rudy taking another wife, Rudy was the one originally against it. Remember, she was practically raised by Paul, zenith and Lilia, she was comfortable with the dynamic. ALSO, she was not the type to lash out at Roxy, so she sat back and let Norn do it for her lol. Only stepping in at the end once things had gone far enough.
@BrainnB
@BrainnB 3 ай бұрын
Spoiler below: “Is he gonna see Eris and be like hey I want to marry you too” About that
@maharghjoshi228
@maharghjoshi228 3 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂
@andrewsanusi8462
@andrewsanusi8462 3 ай бұрын
👀
@braxtonfleetwood2118
@braxtonfleetwood2118 3 ай бұрын
Well …
@Blackvez20
@Blackvez20 3 ай бұрын
Well that's a bit complicated because of who convinced Rudy to forgive Eris about his ED.
@DeoWatcher-tn1bk
@DeoWatcher-tn1bk 3 ай бұрын
He doesn't feel that way.... Until an old version of himself told him, "bro, you need to tap your cousin's ass."
@Stan13y
@Stan13y 2 ай бұрын
Something didn’t rub me right about their relationship too and I didn’t understand it but listening to roshis explanation makes me understand it now
@Henrique-wv9xq
@Henrique-wv9xq 2 ай бұрын
Rudeus is lucky that Sylphy's entire role in this has been to be his wife and make him happy, cause if she had any self respect this wouldn't have gone half as smooth lol. Ep 23 was pure Sylphy disrespect, then we get here and she just accepts everything no problem, the only one thinking clearly was the child lmao. Crazy how the author does some crazy good character writing, but anything related to Rudeus and Women/Relationships gets to wish fulfillment territory SO FAST. Roxy's first idea to help this married man was to f*ck him? Really? The way that they portrayed it as if the sex was what got him to take his first step out of his slump is just crazy to me. Also Can't wait for them to see what'll happen with Eris lmao, I hope they get as frustrated as me, and from what they said in the discussion I have high expectations lol
@Tounushi
@Tounushi 2 ай бұрын
Actually the idea was Geese's, and we've seen the idea already used in practice. It's how Soldat tried to help Rudeus: booze and brothel. Roxy went along with it since it was the only concrete method shown. And even then it wasn't the solution, it was a reset button to get him out of his trauma loop. What got him better at least to the point of being able to travel was the talk he had with her after waking up. Even the anime showed as much, with him asking what he should do. The sex didn't get him walking out of his room with his back straight and organizing the party for travel, it reset him to a baseline where he still needed advice on what he should be doing.
@deathitself6985
@deathitself6985 2 ай бұрын
😂 I mean it was already established before their marriage that Sylphie was expecting it. Marrying Eris comes with lifesaving bonuses 😂
@Mike-gy5ii
@Mike-gy5ii 3 ай бұрын
Paul’s death was extra hard on Norn. You have to remember that she spent most of her childhood with Paul after the teleportation incident.
@Tounushi
@Tounushi 2 ай бұрын
Other than Zenith and Lilia, she's the one who spent longest with him. Zenith met him when he was 18, and the Teleportation Incident happened when he was 29, so 11 years. Norn was with him for a bit over eight years. Aisha was four when the Incident hit and got back to him for another two years at most. Lilia had been with him for... a total of 14 years. Rudeus only had less than eight years in total.
@Umbreon650
@Umbreon650 3 ай бұрын
Tengen had 3 wives so we can let Rudy slide with that
@itsSmiv
@itsSmiv 3 ай бұрын
Like they said, there's nothing wrong with polygamy, it's just not done well here
@s.t2575
@s.t2575 3 ай бұрын
Rudy ain't Tengen
@angeloaliazas2894
@angeloaliazas2894 3 ай бұрын
I completely forgot and didnt mind that he did, i think its more of Tengen showing his genuine love and care for all 3 that it was overlooked quite a bit. So here's to next season on for turning point 4
@vu3doo549
@vu3doo549 3 ай бұрын
Right, it's not done well. It's done amazing. People accept Tengen having 3 wives because "Tengen cool". Since it's Rudy, nope, Mushoku does it wrong. Demon Slayer doesn't build the relationship of the 3 wives from the start like Mushoku. Because Sylphie becomes 1st wife and we see it through Monogamous eyes, we attach the Rudy-Sylphie relationship harder and anybextra is blasphemy. Tengen, we accept it because the 3 are already his wife so we immediately accept it right away. Not just that but since Tengen is "cool" and Rudy "isn't" then they just gave "cool" Tengen a sad little backstory about his wives and how he cares fir them equally and says they must first love and treasure themselves and blah blah, Tengen gets the polygamy pass.
@itsSmiv
@itsSmiv 3 ай бұрын
@@vu3doo549 no, it's done very poorly. It's not just because we see it from monogamous eyes, it's because the relationship was completely monogamous from the start, and sylphie had to just accept the fact that it wasn't anymore. That is not polygamy done "amazing" in the slightest.
@Twiska
@Twiska 2 ай бұрын
Rudy has been suicidal before (on two occasions, in his previous life and went Sara left him) and in the novel he spent a weak without eating and barley drinking before Roxy went to him. And they needed him to get it together so they could start the month long journey to get home with a disabled woman slowling them down. Rudy wasn't thinking of his wife or kid during that week. All he could think about were both sets of his parents and how he failed all four of them. Most people don't think about how there deaths will affect others when they get like that. If they did, no parent would kill themselves but it happens.
@Kenfusi0n
@Kenfusi0n 3 ай бұрын
"Noting wrong with polyagamy" -Roshi 2024
@haxsvg9372
@haxsvg9372 3 ай бұрын
I want to just point out how beautiful Sylphie is in this episode like motherhood was really treating her well. She’s been such a mature character in this season and has pulled Rudy out of his darkness. Her understanding of his situation-ship with Roxy and just everything else. Such a great and powerful episode. Really tugged at the heart-strings.
@allmightylowercasejay1138
@allmightylowercasejay1138 3 ай бұрын
Just so you guys know in this world being in a monogamous relationship is actually rare. Only one religon practice it that religion is called Millis and that just so happens to be the religion Norn, Cliff and Zenith believe in (this is why Norn gets so mad even though Paul did the same thing) but other than that its pretty common for people to take on more than one partner this is why Sylphy was so ok with taking on Roxy as a second wife. Also Sylphy knew the moment she got with Rudy that he would stray because as she mentioned he has a high sex drive and is a pervert (this is actually common in all Greyrat men just look at Paul and Luke) Sylphy is actually more afraid of Rudy getting tired of her and leaving her then she is Rudy taking on another partner as that again is common not just in his family but in the society the live in minus the Followers of Millis.
@gdspiral9655
@gdspiral9655 3 ай бұрын
Started crying when norn was sobbing
@MrCaptnrex
@MrCaptnrex 3 ай бұрын
17:00 nah, he straight up probably would of died, like his depression was DEEP and he hadn't been eating etc, the animation only shows so much of the story. I know you guys joke about "what if she meets someone and wants to marry him too?" lol, guys, this isn't the present day of equal rights, this is the past where the man has the say not the woman, the guys have all the options not the ladies, just saying 😆
@JoseAMatos-us6wo
@JoseAMatos-us6wo 3 ай бұрын
The truth is, the more you try to justify it, the more pathetic Rudeus sounds. A thirty-something who is so depressed by the death of his fake dad that he is willing to starve himself to death and abandon the rest of his family. In other words, on the one hand, he says that he doesn't feel that attached to his mother, and what about his "dad", whom he literally saw like twice in a period of 10 years.
@SSW777
@SSW777 3 ай бұрын
​@@JoseAMatos-us6wo Look I am anime only but I can still understand it's not his "fake dad", it's his real dad. Rudeus literally got destroyed when he saw his mother's condition. This should give you an idea that he was wrong about not feeling emotionally attached to them. If anything he literally tried to kill himself in the beginning of season 2 when a girl (Sarah) left him. If he didn't have any family then I imagine he would've done the same. Roxy was the only one who could've saved him at that moment (I am not sold on the idea of harem but I understand).
@zLeSshuhn
@zLeSshuhn 3 ай бұрын
@@JoseAMatos-us6wo yeah but it wasn't only that the problem...it was the past grief for his old parents, the regret he did the same thing with his new life, plus him losing and arm and his mom being a vegetal all at the same time, also the fact that he died because of him basically like dude Ok that is sounds pathethic but I think this amount of trama is understandable Just like for you guys all situation are simple it's so stupid I'm becoming so annoyed with mushoku discussions it's unreal I can't deal with you all fr
@Thatguypat
@Thatguypat 3 ай бұрын
I think it's a total cop out for sex with Roxy to pull him out of that. Must not have cared about Paul very much if that's all it took to get over it
@ShiNijuuAKL
@ShiNijuuAKL 3 ай бұрын
that's incorrect, in the MT world women also have their reversed harems. There's definitely at least some apparent male dominance (like only men being heirs) but in general it doesn't look like women's rights are comparable to real world medieval times
@ErisianRomantic
@ErisianRomantic 3 ай бұрын
15:43 Roshi, said dude in your example has Anone Of the hidtory and connectio mm to Sylphy that Rudi has to Roxy. Rudi getting another wife wasn't a "Ooo, found a new one!" It was a woman Rudi had a lifetime with extreme feelings towards and for a few good reasons now. One of which being that he thinks Roxy might be pregnant because of Elinalise bullshitting him. :/ I serious wish all the great reacters watched AniNews's cut content videos.
@amity4600
@amity4600 3 ай бұрын
Kinda scared to watch this cause i know sheera is not happy lol
@shadycactus7896
@shadycactus7896 3 ай бұрын
All of them were lol
@karlomolnar2780
@karlomolnar2780 3 ай бұрын
I understand her, this light novel treats women like objects.
@TheRoleplayer40k
@TheRoleplayer40k 3 ай бұрын
@@karlomolnar2780go write a gender studies article about it
@redroman4214
@redroman4214 3 ай бұрын
@@karlomolnar2780 really? If women were really depicted as objects in the ln, Rudeus would just say "she's my wife now deal with it" in this episode or this part in the light novel if that was how the ln treats women.
@LazyDeath666
@LazyDeath666 3 ай бұрын
​@@redroman4214 this is just how people viewing otherworld cultures are... Thinking their view are more morally correct than the people living with it...
@nglijie5716
@nglijie5716 3 ай бұрын
14:35 I expected to see the spirit of Paul Greyrat smiling and winking at his son Rudy from the starry sky, but oh well. 😉
@invisibleghost7415
@invisibleghost7415 3 ай бұрын
To maybe give you a better understanding userstanding, Rudy was lied to by Elinalise in then novel that Roxy was pregnant on their journey back home from Begaritt. She told Rudy she hadn’t had her period since they slept together (2 months, anime sped over the travel). Rudy sat and thought about this a lot in the novel vs the anime made it seem like a decision he came to pretty quickly after just 1 talk with Elinalise. He initially after thinking it over was still not gonna marry Roxy, until Elinalise manipulated him to
@theebattlemedic3098
@theebattlemedic3098 3 ай бұрын
Bro went dark “nah I need something to fall from the sky and blow everything up
@madhatter102102
@madhatter102102 3 ай бұрын
How is it a problem if Rudy potentially has 3 wives, but Tengen can can have 3 wives and no one objects to that? At least we get to see how Rudy's relationship with Sylphie and Roxy progress wvwn if it is a bumpy road.
@leapark4281
@leapark4281 3 ай бұрын
the problem is not Rudy having 3 wives, it is the way he went about the whole situation and the way it is written,
@Kaylakaze
@Kaylakaze 3 ай бұрын
@@leapark4281 Really? Care to elaborate?
@JoseAMatos-us6wo
@JoseAMatos-us6wo 3 ай бұрын
There are several reasons, but these are the main ones: 1. Tengen comes from a different culture. 2. Literally his wives were given to him out of his duty as clan leader. 3. Tengen is not a hypocrite who complains that his dad cheated on his mom, and then does the same. 4. His relationship with his wives was honest from the beginning, it did not start as a pseudo-monogamy that later expanded as a result of infidelity.
@anorak775
@anorak775 3 ай бұрын
Well it doesn’t help that we get a romantic arc and build up with Sylphie, so when Rudy gets with Roxy we kinda feel a bit hurt. But the anime did this a bit dirty by leaving out some integral facts and scenes.
@ChialukaGold
@ChialukaGold 3 ай бұрын
Two different situations, Rudy said he will love her and only her than came back with another wife.
@pepegaprogrammer
@pepegaprogrammer 3 ай бұрын
"you take the balls, I get the shaft..." AYYYYY FFFFFYUKIN' YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
@Tounushi
@Tounushi 2 ай бұрын
too bad we'll have to wait until 2026 for that...
@thanosandnobill3789
@thanosandnobill3789 3 ай бұрын
From what I understand there is no need for "lots" of reasoning to merry two wives in this fantasy world. Polygamy is also common today in some countries and used to be way more popular in the past in even more. Fun fact even polyandry used to be common in places like Tiber and Nepal
@LazyDeath666
@LazyDeath666 3 ай бұрын
But what these "Common" people don't understand at all is that polygamy is a thing but they can't understand it due to their monogamy logic... Poor people or normal people won't go for polygamy due to poverty issues... But guys that's only in today's standards.. in olden days polygamy can work only if they accepted it since they don't work for money that much since they only need to farm food and they can build the rest themselves... Work can be shared... Wives from polygamy days isn't the Saudi of our times where wives are trophies. People in mideval times would totally go for more wives to make a certain point about being more manly than others. But also due to their greed about monopolizing women.
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