The fact Caroline as his own mother didn't even stand up to comfort her own son who broke down and just sitting there looking sad really shows you how awful she is. Even Connor as his half brother stood up and comfort him.
@VeniVidiVicous6 ай бұрын
I hadn't considered that before but had already arrived at the conclusion that she was a terrible parent.
@margarethmichelina51466 ай бұрын
@@VeniVidiVicous Also, back in Season One, on Shiv's wedding, she had an audicity to say "This isn't about you!" In her own daughter's wedding day! No wonder Shiv is always feeling isolated through her entire life.
@VeniVidiVicous6 ай бұрын
@@margarethmichelina5146 It was saying she'd have a heart to heart with Kendall the next morning and then no showing that made me think Logan was the better parent of the two.
@margarethmichelina51466 ай бұрын
@@VeniVidiVicous As much as ignorant and abusive Logan is, I noticed that Logan is always nicer to Shiv as probably because Shiv is the only daughter and the youngest Roy. You can see that Shiv is always respecting Logan and not always agree for Kendall for always throw him down as CEO. Even she looks disgusted to see Kendall put his foot on Logan's former office table. But, deep down, she's always having her agenda and it always backfired.
@duewest19875 ай бұрын
Logan didn't stand up either. Truly horrible parents
@heyimJoeKАй бұрын
I wonder if Shiv being on the verge of breaking down with Roman at 2:18 was scripted or not. Looked and felt very genuine to me. Top notch acting by everyone.
@13strong6 ай бұрын
I love that Roman's cue cards are pink, like he's taking his heart out and laying it out in front of him.
@tobiasrieper66406 ай бұрын
English teachers be like
@ryanorielly56176 ай бұрын
@@tobiasrieper6640Lmaoo
@mattw83505 ай бұрын
Not that deep
@sophieelsa74694 ай бұрын
That's such a good observation!!!!! I love it.
@caorosco833 ай бұрын
Good observation. Contrasts the front Roman always put up.
@mirdja838 ай бұрын
Oh my lord, that gentle little sob that comes out of him. How he protects himself with his hands as he was afraid he would be beaten. My heart 😓
@TheEtherny7 ай бұрын
This is so real tho. For me, it didn't hit until I saw the casket and I thought "damn, this is really the way it ends?" Death is so weird
@mimik2227 ай бұрын
If it was open casket it would be 10x worse
@mrsupremegascon7 ай бұрын
Had the exact same reaction at my grand father death. Didn't felt anything until I saw the casket, then I broke down.
@margarethmichelina51466 ай бұрын
Also, the way Logan died is just.... simple. He's just died by cardiac arrest, not by getting shot or stabbed but he just dies.
@jackiemortes2 ай бұрын
@@mrsupremegascon I wouldn't say I didn't feel anything before the moment, because I sure did feel a lot, but yeah, there are those moments where the wave of emotions just comes crashing down on you, and seeing the casket is usually one of them...
@mandalorluekrem967 ай бұрын
At my grandfather's funeral, my youngest aunt had the same reaction as Roman. This scene absolutely shook me when I watched it. Because i saw this scene in real life. The death of the father is always difficult for the youngest sibling in the family.
@buxxi907 ай бұрын
Roman is not the youngest. Shiv is.
@mandalorluekrem967 ай бұрын
@@buxxi90 OMG! You were right man!
@buxxi907 ай бұрын
@@mandalorluekrem96 it certainly feels the other way around.
@mandalorluekrem967 ай бұрын
@@buxxi90 Absolutely. 😄
@margarethmichelina51463 ай бұрын
Also, you noticed that somehow Shiv looks taller than Roman despite being the youngest sibling? Even without heels, she looks taller than him.
@leanne.6 ай бұрын
i remember watching this and thinking he would win the emmy and came back to this after he won
@sidolanters13946 күн бұрын
He was great in the entire season/show but this was THE scene that got him that Emmy
@CluelessIndianGamer10 ай бұрын
What a pathetic little to world to live him where you cannot even cry your heart out at your father's funeral without being judged. Great show though!
@margarethmichelina51462 ай бұрын
Roman always being terrible to the other people by disrespecting them, rude and also talk whatever he wants. However, deep down, he's actually still suffering a Stockholm Syndrome as he is mostly always following Logan every time and always act arrogance whenever he's around Logan. He tried to act like Logan by firing Joy and Gerri and even mocking Willa as Connor's "wife", he's also thinking that having Mecken as the President would be a good idea as Logan chose Mecken to be the President candidate and he's thinking it would be honor him but it backfired to him as the public don't like Mecken because he is a fascist. Even worse, Mecken ignoring him later on Logan's house. This moment expose himself that he is indeed a spoiled daddy rich kid who is nothing without his daddy and also shows how weak he is as his other siblings are stronger. Also, Ewan's eulogy feels like a wake up call to him so he feels overwhelmed on bringing his eulogy later.
@sethcopeland43624 ай бұрын
Matsson and Mencken's reactions side by side are interesting. Lukas seems to get it, has a "Oh, he wasn't kidding on the mountain" kind of look while Mencken's your pushy hockey dad after you blow the big match, a restrained, disappointed "Well, okay then."
@margarethmichelina51463 ай бұрын
It's ironic that Roman pushed his siblings to choose Mecken but then in his dad's house on awakening, Mecken completely ignored him. Also, there's a theory that Roman might have a crush to Mecken hence why they were so close in Season 3. However, Mecken is married as you noticed he has a wife and a kid on his victory speech. Therefore, Roman's "simping" to Mecken for nothing.
@BatmanHQYT2 ай бұрын
Never really knew how to interpret their looks in this scene, this one is very interesting.
@sidolanters139413 күн бұрын
Also don't forget that Lukas found his own dad after he unalived himself and is prone to bouts of melancholy. He understands the sadness and the emotional trauma because he's lived it.
@DJ-wl5qo7 ай бұрын
I’m sorry but Roman arranging his little notecards like that is legitimately one of the biggest laughs I got out of this entire series.
@benmeyer1989 Жыл бұрын
Just proof none of us are as strong as we think. Kieran was great in this scene!
@Ephraim-Michael2 ай бұрын
Well Logan wouldn’t have cried in Roman’s situation. Roman generally tried to appear strong & tough & ruthless superficially but was always a weak person
@kentknightofcaelin4537Ай бұрын
@@Ephraim-MichaelYou aren't a "weak person" for crying at your father's funeral.
@Ephraim-MichaelАй бұрын
@@kentknightofcaelin4537 it’s emotional authenticity, which I personally adore in Roman, but it was evident that people lookd down at him for this. Karl shook his head, Jeryd Mencken mocked him for it, Lukas Matsson looked amused and superioristic. So, weakness
@sidolanters13946 күн бұрын
No one ever thought Rome was strong. He clearly built a wall around his emotions, hence the constant rudeness, obscenities, jokes, put-downs, etc. It was always very obvious that he was a very sensitive man, we just barely got to see it before this scene (we saw a little of it after the hostage situation in Turkey, that was the first crack). Rome is the embodiment of "tough on the outside, soft on the inside"
@sidolanters13946 күн бұрын
@@kentknightofcaelin4537 exactly. people who are outwardly tough (don't let anything get to them, never allow themselves to be vulnerable) are actually weak (or rather, afraid, which is a form of weakness); now to allow yourself to be yourself, to be vulnerable and to show your emotions, THAT is strength. THAT is a superpower.
@subway14254 ай бұрын
The whole series you just want to give Roman a hug
@BenProd013 ай бұрын
Not all the time lol but I get it
@kshitijsrivastava64404 ай бұрын
This is what won Kieran Culkin his blessed emmy
@MichaelEmmanuelArriaga6 ай бұрын
2:58 Even Mattson had more empathy for Roman than Karl. Despite their bad blood, he knows from experience how much losing a father can hurt 😢 Fuck Karl...
@tobiasrieper66406 ай бұрын
That doesn’t look like empathy at all. You can almost see a little smirk starting to form
@MichaelEmmanuelArriaga6 ай бұрын
@@tobiasrieper6640 I didn't really see a smirk on Mattson 🫤. Then again, I do have astigmatism lmao. Maybe you're thinking of Mencken ?
@ghulaa6 ай бұрын
@@tobiasrieper6640he doesn’t smirk at all
@thegamingelite96096 ай бұрын
I definitely got the impression that he was smirking like the other execs. @@MichaelEmmanuelArriaga
@malayjoshi10985 ай бұрын
@@tobiasrieper6640if I remember correctly he smirks when Kendall starts speaking about his dad and capitalism....
@BobbyEdwards-bu9lx2 ай бұрын
Karl laughing at this circulating online "he sounds like a sow that knows its about to get the stun gun.." LMAO
@gary587 Жыл бұрын
The Grim Weeper, Tiny Tears
@106andie Жыл бұрын
@@SillyFrenchKing silent?! 😂
@alainmg2362 Жыл бұрын
Hahahaah that was wild
@rootedinland6823 Жыл бұрын
Such a ruthless insult yet one of the funniest in the show lmao
@louievasquez44747 ай бұрын
I burst out with laughter when he said that!
@mimirants79353 ай бұрын
That shot of Gerri makes me madder that they didn't include the cut scene from the scripts where she comforts him. Not only was it true to character (the dialogue in the scene didnt feel OOC) but it would have provided so much more closure to their relationship.
@sidolanters13946 күн бұрын
Nah, it would've been too much. It was perfect the way it was edited. A beautiful heartwrenching moment between the siblings.
@asapdammoh82727 ай бұрын
Church & State is a masterpiece
@amandalheureux34435 ай бұрын
Didn’t know Kieran had this in him.
@margarethmichelina51464 ай бұрын
Also, knowing what happened to the Culkin's father who abused his kids to be famous especially to his brother, Macaulay, this hit him so hard.
@Johnnywiseify Жыл бұрын
Real talk, can anybody picture Roman giving a serious eulogy for anybody anyways!?
@benwasserman82237 ай бұрын
I think if Roman wanted to he could. He just rarely acted like anyone he met was worthy of a serious eulogy, given the privileged status and everything.
@roshinvarghese68797 ай бұрын
This was better than any eulogy. What is there to say when your own father dies really? This is more meaningful and more impactful than words can ever do.
@thegamingelite96096 ай бұрын
I dont think Roman could do anything in his life seriously...
@Highstakess_3 ай бұрын
@@thegamingelite9609 Like kendall? :D
@thegamingelite96093 ай бұрын
@@Highstakess_ kendall atleast knows what he's talking about while Roman makes it up as he goes.
@caorosco833 ай бұрын
Just finished the show. Good gravy Roman was a little shit, but I felt for him in this scene. Finally all the bravado and snide behavior just crumbled. It seemed like every interaction with his dad made him revert back to a little kid throughout the series. And now he had to face the finality of the man's, whose approval he always wanted, death.
@PikkaBiteАй бұрын
Kieran deserved the Emmy just for this performance alone
@fabricpizza88643 ай бұрын
So fuckin spicy, so true
@aap23103 ай бұрын
Gerri's look
@Go7Suarez6 ай бұрын
Roman's tears are delicious. He thought he was going to kill it, then he just collapsed like a cheap tent!