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[@Human1]

why are they the way that they are. I hate so much about the things they choose to be...

[@OneTopic]

only you would quote Michael in a moment like this 😂

[@bunnyconcubus8468]

Human1 being wonderful

[@k8tertot924]

As someone who pretended to be cis for 14 years of their life and was hidden in the crowd of cis people ✨ incognito style ✨ I can confirm…. No, they are not.

[@fulana_de_tal]

@@k8tertot924 as a cis person, i agree, we're not ok

[@FitzIsBetterThanYou]

Amog us

[@anitanielsen1061]

“Children should not be allowed to identify as a gender.” Agender people. No-pronoun people. Roll call?

[@barrylangille3523]

Well not long ago babies were commonly referred to as "it" so... But the person you're referring to would be offended by that too.

[@junkoenoshima2756]

🖐🏻

[@squidmcinks9537]

Ttttthhhhhats me!

[@rinpaisys]

Hoi.

[@yuki97kira]

The....irony that theyd then get angry if someone accidentally call their daughter "he" because babies just look similar and i dont wanna see baby ding ding

[@EndiCoded]

If clothes defined your gender, I get why most gods were portrayed naked.

[@fabulous_fungus3745]

😳

[@bag.n]

It was actually because the gods were supposed to be perfect and perfection shouldn't be covered up, but you also make a good point lol

[@prettygay]

Uuuu good one

[@FeralFelineFriend]

This killed me. Now I may rest in peace.

[@baguettelover3766]

@@bag.n sooo what you are saying is... agender people, non binary people and those who dont like labelling themselves are perfect? Sounds good to me

[@katashworth41]

Getting people’s pronouns right is definitely not going to trigger eating disorders.

[@Anon-rt3fx]

How the fuck would it even?

[@einvictim8404]

I haven't watched the video yet, so this comment is incredibly confusinh to me and im here for it

[@epicpeachtime]

@@Anon-rt3fx I think that's partially the point. There's no sarcasm involved, just spitting facts. Of course, since it's the internet, sometime sarcasm is hard to tell.

[@uc-dw5yh]

@@voomyz what does '/lh' mean?(genuine)

[@uc-dw5yh]

@@nakkicat that is very cool! i will check them out right now /g

[@therussiangamer6997]

The "pronoun people" sounds like an LGBT version of the Justice League and I am here for it. Ah yes, Captain He/Him. Oh look, demi-woman! The incredible non-binary! People need to chill tf out and learn that pronouns are a literal part of speech and not abnormal nor have an "agenda"

[@disableddragonborn]

It's super funny to me to see people complain about pronouns because in order to complain about pronouns, they have to use pronouns. Even Yoda uses pronouns. 😂

[@CyberController-]

To me, Aro-Ace already sounds like a superhero name

[@trianglemoebius]

The Pronoun People all have one power, and that is shapeshifting. Because we all know trans people aren't going to wish for anything else.

[@ReignBeauofTerror]

I would read that comic so obsessively

[@vinn3790]

Look, it's demi-woman's partner in crime, demi-man! Is it a bird? Is it a plane? No, it's the incredible agender!

[@phoebedarker]

"Supporting transgender people does not delay trains" is like a loading screen tip 😂

[@rickrolld1367]

Sounds like something you would hear on the radio in GTA V: "Hello! Welcome to iffy radio, where people talk about things which confuse everyday people! Today we have Paul on the show, who has a problem. So what's your problem, Paul?" "I was at a train station, and noticed a trans flag on a wall, which I tried to rip down, but the police stopped me and arrested me!" "And why did you try to rip down the trans flag?" "I thought it would delay the trains again, because from the first god damn day that forsaken flag has been there, and ever since that trans pride parade has passed through the area, the trains have never been on time! These trans flags are delaying trains! The word has to get out, if there are any trans flags or people present near a trains stati-" "Sorry about that folks, but we had to cut Paul off there. As we all know, trains don't get delayed by trans flags and trans people, they get delayed by gay folk who derail trains from their straight tracks. Make sure to tune in tomorrow folks for another episode! Until then, avoid the cops!"

[@cursedalien]

Also, "trains running on time" might be a fascist dogwhistle, as a reference to the myth that under Mussilini, "the trains ran on time."

[@sun_le_citron]

If Minecraft doesn't add it to their yellow lines thingy, imma rage quit life /j

[@JariDawnchild]

@@cursedalien Sounds like one lol.

[@Lu4455]

Trains rights

[@sheikah55]

Don't just get rid of that gender. Recycle it or give it to a friend for them to use. Go green trans people.

[@esperinkedits3803]

That’s what the person who said they’d respect trans people more if they went green meant /hj

[@linloo111]

HAHAHA

[@Technomancer666]

That’s called a transplant.

[@clegs8356]

this was my thought when i came across a youtuber trans dude who goes by my trans sister's deadname LOL ... which honestly was kinda beautiful, i had always loved that name before she was out to us, and now it's serving a trans guy so much better :'))

[@sundalosketch4769]

@@clegs8356 That sounds like something that'd work in a super weirdly specific speed dating place. Looking for a trans partner but don't know how to do it? Write down your dead name and put it out for whoever would possibly want to use it for themselves and have a convo about it with each other. Does that sound insensitive? I really don't mean for it to be that way-

[@keythealien]

Story time: I came out as NB to my mother recently and explained to her I don't like feminine language being applied to me, as well as all the ways she can change the words she uses to make me feel a little better. She seemed more confounded than anything at the idea of having to use different things to refer to me but eventually settled on just using my name to replace things like "daughter" when talking to her coworkers. She's put in a great effort considering she's had to attempt to erase over twenty years of ingrained knee-jerk pronouns and gendered words from her lexicon when referring to me. The issue is... she doesn't fully understand what nonbinary really is lol and she'll start to say things like "baby girl" then go "sorry, baby it." I have a shirt that says "my witch's brew is pumpkin spice" and she saw me walk by with it on and immediately went "there's little miss pumpkin spice" then quickly apologized and said "pumpkin it." And, honestly, "it" isn't an attractive pronoun to me, but it's so, so, SO funny that she's made sense of "they/them" in this manner and is trying so hard. I just don't have it in me to tell her "it" and "they/them" aren't colloquial. Besides, the things she comes up with to correct herself are hilarious and kill me every time. It's also sweet, in a way, even though she doesn't understand but is doing her best anyway.

[@unbekannternutzer25]

Is that the definition of 'she's a little confused but she got the spirit'? 🤔 Lol seriously tho your mum seems sweet. On a different note, I went under 'it' for a while in my friend group due to an inside joke, and I have to say I got used to it. It doesn't feel quite as weird anymore to use 'it' for a human than it did before the joke.

[@Queer_Nerd_For_Human_Justice]

Oh boy. That is cute and I'm glad she's trying, but why do they always make it more complicated than it really is? It's not boy/girl/it, it's boy/girl/child. We already have words for these things. But they always go for the confusing, grammatically incorrect, and often dehumanizing options. Like "So you're a they? Instead of his backpack, do I say they's backpack? Instead of my son you're my they"? Like. Dude. You went to school. You know this shit. Don't overthink it.

[@banan9432]

Omfg I'm dead. Hello pumpkin it 💀

[@unbekannternutzer25]

@@Queer_Nerd_For_Human_Justice that would require people to know the difference between nouns and pronouns or generally what pronouns are. By the amount of people who cry because of pronouns it's clear that way to many don't. But they aren't stupid per se, they're only uneducated, were hung out to dry by a shit school system. And the worst thing is, this was known already 20 years ago. Take the first episode of futurama when they tell Fry his college degree isn't worth shit. By their standards he's a high school dropout. It explains a looot of stuff

[@xanthemothcat]

Yeah my mom struggles with my pronouns too, but she’s got some mental issues so I can’t really blame her. She’s on the opposite side though, I’m perfectly fine with being called it even though they’re not my main pronouns, but my mom sees it as a huge insult. But I am very proud of my mom for doing her best and really trying to make me happy with all of the changes I’ve been making in my life.

[@The_Jerkinator]

My parents went on a whole damn rant for 40 minutes bc they were mad at that one trans woman in the bikini thats making cishets freak tf out. I didn't even know she was trans. She looked like any other woman they promote beer in a bathing suit to me. They also were mad about Target having a display of pride month stuff (bc it is almost time) in the CLOTHING SECTION. Where tf else would it be???? In the back with the kitchen supplies??? They also were ranting about how the "gender people" being predatory to kids 🧍 I swear ppl get VERY touchy over something that doesn't even affect them in the slightest. Like, no Karen, ppl being open about who they are ≠ pred

[@mndlessdrwer]

"You know who's way more predatory to kids? The church."

[@JennaTheFox277]

No one outside my band knew I was trans until I spoke, they treated me like a cis woman. I even has the chest and everything (well...I had inserts at the time)

[@T4N7]

Transphobes: "How am I sposed to use the right pronouns when addressing a transgender employee?" Also transphobes: "Y would any employee need to have pronouns written on their name tag?"

[@asmith8692]

The proper pronouns to use when addressing a worker are you/me. As in "can you help me?" I personally don't refer to someone I'm talking to in the third person.

[@peterp.9327]

@@asmith8692 Hey Smith, how are he/she/they? How was his/her/their shift today? Perfect grammar right there. Also, if she really wanted to know, she could have asked.

[@EllBell-wj1ye]

@@asmith8692 I really hate being called “sir.” Sure, it’s not a pronoun. But it carries the same level of assumption

[@asmith8692]

@@EllBell-wj1ye same here, particularly since my own pronouns are she/her. But can you imagine going up to someone and saying "greetings (name), can he/she/they help me" while pointing to the worker you are addressing? I mean the only time that I would use third person pronouns (he/she/they) in their presence is if I were referring to them to a coworker or manager.

[@kaylaa2204]

@@asmith8692 I think they were trying to say that knowing the person's gender would be required if you wanted to be poite by referring to them as sir/maam. so its the sam situation as feeling a need to know the person's pronouns

[@philippaclarke2844]

That name badge literally solves the problem that the 'woman in the cafe' was theoretically having. No more treading on egg shelves in Marks & Spencer 😂

[@BookishLovely]

What if they have a gender neutral name? Like Jordan or Alex

[@philippaclarke2844]

@@BookishLovely The great name badges from M&S also include pronouns so Alex or Jordan could specify their correct pronouns.

[@sundalosketch4769]

Definitely. People don't even need to mention pronouns when ordering anyways as you can just say "excuse me" instead of "excuse me ma'am" or "I'd like to have.." instead of "Hello good sir, i'd like to have..." In all the times i've eaten out or ordered anything, pronoun usage wasn't as big as that person was attempting to make it seem like.

[@warriorwolvez]

I was deadass about to comment the same thing

[@Its.Me.Wynter]

I feel soooooo old whenever I accidentally call it St Michael… l was in primary school when the brand was dropped

[@Haydennn22]

“people are built different. we don’t need to figure it out, we just need to respect it” -PB from Adventure Time

[@lunaguy1195]

Great quote there 👏👏

[@blackgobbogaming4236]

Isn't she basically candy Hitler? Sad how she respects people but not toxic cis people.

[@bv0804]

@@blackgobbogaming4236 Was* candy Hitler. But, actually, it wasn't that bad. But yeah, her character had to learn a lot of things before getting her happy ending.

[@ShadowZeroFlame]

Respect is a loaded word. It's Earned, not given. I'd argue it'll be closer too "Just stop caring. If it doesn't break the law & doesn't harm anyone, let people do whatever".

[@Haydennn22]

@@ShadowZeroFlame true, i was just quoting something from a tv show tho :)

[@lightnight9822]

“Free speech!” -some parents **doesn’t allow some people in the lgbtq+ to speak up and let them know their gender, sexuality, pronouns..**

[@hollowknight2221]

Dear trans allies, When you first meet someone and you don’t know their pronouns and you suspect they’re trans, you’re ok. You won’t offend us by not knowing our pronouns. You’re doing great, just ask :)

[@missnaomi613]

Thank you for this. I'm a 50 year old cis mama. One of my kids is a trans enby. I was taught that *not immediately knowing someone's gender was so rude*! I'm so glad that the world is changing in this way! 💙💗🤍💗💙

[@adidi7789]

The problem is not trans people, it's cis people who will yell and get angry if I don't immediately guess what gender they are. But thank you for this :)

[@Impalaplayer]

Idk about yall but someone can call me her she or even asshole and I'm not gonna give a crap so If people just behave there are no problems but too many people behave like kids and cry over the thought of spilled milk and I'm not really sure who to blame for that but we don't let people get under your skin or you have already lost

[@ifuckedurmom]

@@Impalaplayer just because you have a degradation kink, doesn’t mean everyone does trever

[@Impalaplayer]

I don't get pleasure from it I just don't care bud

[@imliterallysotired3169]

Plot twist: we start referring to terf by terf’s pronouns

[@ashfromthesomewhere]

Ye I think terf can be terfself

[@SaltySweetRen]

XD I can imagine terf's rage when terf realizes terf's attempt at a joke has completely backfired.

[@parentmushroom5456]

Like, what else could we do, not respect terfs pronouns?

[@onelilypad5371]

It would be really disrespectful to refer to terf by anything but terfs preffered pronouns

[@nerdywolverine8640]

I cant think of any trans person i know who wouldnt respect terfs pronouns

[@ShinTriAce]

We transfolks are not hurting anyone by simply existing... These kind of Cis people are hurting themselves by being closed minded about anything that does not fit into their worldview.

[@krankarvolund7771]

Sadly, they hurt other people way more tan themselves ^^'

[@islacruickshank353]

As a cis person, I deeply apologise.

[@johannageisel5390]

As another cis person: I've never felt threatened or even only bothered by a trans person. You're valid and welcome to me.

[@dalepirofsky3851]

As another cis person, I thought it was a generally accepted thing that If you got pronouns wrong after a switch on accident it was okay but not to apologize because that could bring attention to it or make it feel less serious? Whenever I'm talking to a trans/Enbe person and I get it wrong, they just calmly correct me and we move on. Of course I'd I keep doing it it will obviously get a bit frustrating but as a cis person if someone kept calling me She I would at one point be like "PLEASE I AM A BOY..." (I take some offence because I have long hair and one time Someone made a disgusting remark to me and It really made me feel bad for all the women who has to put up with that shit)

[@hunterv9983]

On behalf of cis people everywhere, I hope you can forgive us.

[@rubyalexey8692]

"it's so awful to have to guess a worker pronoun!" "what a fantasy land they live in that they give workers pronouns tags!"

[@Limepopsicle07]

They just want to be bad people, they really don’t actually care about respecting others.

[@kitkatsinAlaska]

no don't forget that they're gonna call them "wokers"

[@seigeengine]

The underlying issue is that, like a lot of LGBT topics, pronoun use and the response to people being hateful and trying to upset and denigrate others has lost the plot. Pronouns are descriptive. The point of pronouns is to be an easy off-hand way to differentiate things in conversation. Their function isn't to express your identity or sense of inner self in the first place. Naturally, decent folk like to be considerate of other's sensitivities, and take small measures to uphold the social contract... we are social animals after all... But you're fighting an uphill battle in the first place by expecting others to do this for you, especially as a stranger. This makes it a particularly easy hill for the hateful weirdos to die on. They're not going to make sense, and it's hard to even blame them in this case, because the initial premise is them being imposed upon.

[@JennaTheFox277]

It's great they do, because I was always misgendered when I worked in a breakfast bar

[@IlaMedlin]

Terfs: How am I supposed to know what pronouns to use for the customer service person?😠 Also Terfs: I’m mad this place is giving customer service people their pronouns on their name tag so I can know what pronouns to use!😡

[@BahamutEx]

its almost like they just hate us... :o

[@girlwithtehface5880]

Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

[@magicfrogboi6242]

They really just wanna be mad huh?

[@elfrog98]

They're mad that you're making it harder to be bigoted, they don't wanna work for it

[@angel_subliminals4650]

They’re just hypocrites

[@anfearaerach]

Not only is that one lady so fatphobic, a lot of trans people are disabled and poor. We don't have time/spoons to do all that even when dysphoria wouldn't stop most of us to work out :')

[@OzCroc]

Yeah like it's so easy to use proper pronouns, but it's not easy to work out and loose weight.

[@lordofthefrogs4577]

not to mention the fact that those two requests aren’t at all equivalent… and we’re just asking for y’all to try. when that consistently doesn’t happen, that’s when i’m going to get a bit frustrated. also, me reminding you when you mess up isn’t me being mad… yet. that’s the difference, is that changing your habits in a massive way in next to no time with a very strict standard for doing it right is not the same as trying to make a smaller change in your habits with a somewhat less strict standard.

[@anfearaerach]

@@lordofthefrogs4577 if i have to believe my parents it's close to learning a new language 🙄

[@Queer_Nerd_For_Human_Justice]

Oh god, dysphoria while working out is a huge problem. Half the reason I'm getting my tits removed is so I can work out without them flopping all over the place and making me hate myself.

[@baldchara]

"This lady" is Michelle McDaniel. And i do realize why somebody who sees that tweet is going to assume she's transphobic and fatphobic, but it's not the case, at all! I don't have her twitter, but she has a youtube channel (My Thoughts Will Probably Offend You) and i watch her a lot on that. Be careful though cause her titles are clickbaits like 90% of time With that being said, the whole situation started because she got Demi Lovato's pronouns wrong (which, you know, happens sometimes. She didn't do it on purpose) and people started attacking her. She expressed she doesn't understand they them pronouns, probably never will, but that's okay, because she is going to respect it anyway. She respects people and their pronouns, even if she doesn't fully understand them. Still, obviously slip ups can happen, and this is exactly what that whole fuss is about. I think that tweet was made when she got emotional with the hate she has gotten. Honestly if i saw it without knowing who Michelle is i'd probably go "holy shit whoever wrote it must be uneducated and an asshole" too. She just worded her thoughts terribly

[@yuki97kira]

As a girl i said "sorry, i have a boyfriend" is because saying flat out no to the wrong person couldve been deadly, and some respects your boyfriend for it, not for you. Some people dont care you arent interested, but they stops if they know youre taken

[@Ajehy]

I have literally lied that I have a BF or that I’m a lesbian (I’m bi) to get out of awkward/dangerous situations.

[@missnaomi613]

Yes. This.

[@miui_burrito9203]

Same. Literally yesterday I was out with my cousin to a party and that one guy with his two friends ig was trying to start a conversation and flirt with me. I was weirded out at first because he looked older than me and even tho I’m 21 I look like 15, I have the biggest baby face. I’m just not interested in a relationship rn and I was trying to find excuses to just apologize and say good bye and leave, but he was really persistent. I even told him I’m gay just to get him off of me. My cousin noticed I was taking too long to come back and then she came to me with her friends to help me. I know sth like that should affect me but I can’t stop thinking about that situation and how other girls or even guys are getting hit on by someone who is just extremely persistent or even putting u under pressure every day. I don’t know if I could have done sth if I was alone.

[@Ajehy]

@@miui_burrito9203 Good thing your cousin was there. *Hug*

[@packrat2004]

I literally say "sorry, I have a boyfriend" even if I'm single or have a girlfriend. Because men respect other men's "property" more than they respect women's boundaries.

[@ThisChangeIsAwful]

My SO is genderfluid and I'm a trans woman. We discovered this about 4 years into our marriage. We used to wonder why our relationship was so much better than all the cishet people around us and now we don't.

[@disableddragonborn]

I sat here for a good minute just enjoying this comment. I'm nonbinary, so this made me feel really good.☺

[@Nakedsnake36]

Flashback to my classmate who became gender fluid to take advantage of the “ladies first” thing

[@RAHelllord]

​@@Nakedsnake36His name? Albert Einstein

[@kitkatsinAlaska]

​@Nakedsnake36 literally me (I underwent self discovery for ladies first)

[@mazzy_ivy]

heh heh >:)

[@mascotwithadinosaur9353]

Ok, the "Children shouldn't be allowed to identify as a gender" GOT ME ON THE F-ING FLOOR!! Oml... How? Just how????

[@eldritchabomination9726]

I mean, that's not a bad idea. Referring to kids with neutral terms and they/them until they tell you otherwise. That way they can develop their gender identity and expression without influence from people around them

[@xd._.28234]

ikr then what ab the cis kids as well? be cis is also a fuckin gender 😂 are they erased too? lmaooo

[@anitanielsen1061]

It sounds like they want kids to be agender XD

[@NotAnEvilMastermind]

@@eldritchabomination9726 no gender for you until you get older!

[@SCREW_TITLES]

@@NotAnEvilMastermind why mom?! So you can chose one in the future

[@owl7072]

Cis person from earlier post: My WIFE was FROZEN in FEAR because she was AFRAID of using the wrong PRONOUNS!!! This is an ISSUE that needs fixed NOW!! Trans people + Allies: Oh, okay we can help with that! **Makes name cards with pronouns** Cis person in later post: NO!!! This is TOO MUCH!!!

[@yes794]

Why did i read your comment as "trans people + aliens" bye I'm going to go commit spanateous combustion 😭

[@omnistpagan3282]

Yeah every Starbucks I go to most baristas have their pronouns on the name tags, and I’m in Texas. Also it never hurts to ask I think a lot of people would be happy that someone is being considerate. Also when the hell do you have to use pronouns when asking for a drunk? I guess if you wanna sit or ma’m, but you can always refrain from that. It’s not that hard.

[@fennecf4431]

LOVE those goth outfits. HATE how people can be offended by pieces of fabric

[@kalt1x787]

Definitely agree with you, but why isn't anyone questioning th fact that OT wants to roundhouse kick people in jeans??

[@xd._.28234]

lmao yeah

[@xd._.28234]

then they call us glass generation smh

[@lady_lexi924]

I SMELL FANART

[@sirsteam6455]

To be fair anything can offend someone as most conflicts are caused by arbitrary social constructs clashing that are supposedly opposites like the concept of liberty and the concept of authority when in reality those concepts aren't necessarily opposites, another reason is the connection one forms between a symbol or object and a concept like flags with nationality or creed.

[@KrimsonKattYT]

I've never seen A SINGLE PERSON EVER get offended by someone saying "merry christmas" to them. Once again bigots make up scenarios in their head that don't exist to get mad about... 💀

[@LiEnby]

they see some soulless corperation say 'happy holidays' instead and assume they hate christmas for some reason

[@tarab9081]

"To a person used to privilege equality seems like oppression." I think there's a lot of people who are angry that the world is changing and they feel attacked because they're not being treated as the default quite as often. And, of course, there are people who are happy to take advantage of those people's insecurities.

[@cocolime6496]

bingo

[@JariDawnchild]

The sad thing is, nothing is changing for them, they're simply being asked to show that same consideration for others.

[@OriginalCreatorSama]

Yeah, it's like they're playing King Of The Mountain and all we want is to go up the stairs they're blocking for their silly "but *someone* needs to be the best!" game. (i don't know if that made sense, I'm having a lousy day and kinda out of it)

[@vanguardbreaker8826]

This is barely relevant to the subject, but that's a damn good quote. I'm going to steal that for my DnD campaign, there's a city of mostly humans that downgrade and dehumanise other races like dragonborn, and it fits really well there too.

[@sadstardust]

no one i've ever met has ever been offended by being told "merry christmas" but there are so many snowflakes who will snap at "happy holidays"

[@Oyasumi05]

Its literally projection lol, people can't say "happy holidays" without it being the *WAR ON CHRISTMAS* but like 0 people ever have been legitimately upset from someone saying merry Christmas

[@streamerssaymyname]

@@Oyasumi05 because those in privilege treat equality as oppression.

[@ClownHoundII]

Had a guy tell me that saying "Happy holidays" is offensive because that's ignoring/getting rid of Christmas as well as stealing his right to "freedom of speech" because he should be allowed to express his Christianity. Who's going to tell him that Christmas is a holiday? Also, I used his logic and told him have a happy Yule (my religious holiday) and he got pissed that I didn't say Christmas because I "should have".

[@FeralFelineFriend]

@Tom Morrison See when I worked in retail, I never told anyone Merry Christmas or Happy Holidays. I stuck to my have a good day auto pilot because they don't deserve to hear either. That's why I work in a factory, so I can just swear instead.

[@ClownHoundII]

@@gayjayy Here's a small recreation of the interaction: Him: I should say Merry Christmas because I celebrate it. It's my religion and I have freedom to it and and freedom of speech. My Christmas, my expression of practice. Me: Well Happy Yule and Winter Solstice to you. Him: But I don't celebrate that! Stop forcing your religion onto me!

[@ryiot5238]

For everyone who wants to know, free speech actually doesn't include hate speech. Since it infringes others rights (often the pursuit of happiness part but also life and liberty) its not a right. Like how freedom is a right until to take away someone else's right of living. See? It's not that hard to understand.

[@xd._.28234]

ikr? yet too many don't get it💀 freedom of speech it ends once one of em discriminates someone else for being X or Y and harming them (in whatever ways)... but those anti everything use it as a shield "but but my freedom!" 😂

[@baldchara]

"Your freedom ends where mine starts. My freedom ends where your starts"

[@dynamicworlds1]

@@baldchara we're still working on getting antivaxers to understand their "freedoms" don't include recklessly endangering public safety with a pandemic...it's an uphill fight getting people to understand that principle when they think their freedoms extend beyond an immunocompromised kids _lungs_

[@PrincessX-ke8tj]

Constitutionally? You're wrong. At least in the USA. For you to be correct, all insults ever would also be illegal within the States. Nor, as someone who prefers unusual pronouns (it/its), do I believe it should be. Any infringement on our freedom of speech could potentially be used against people if another is violated. If someone else uses the wrong pronouns, I can ignore them. The government (likely) won't give me my rights back until it threatens them as well -consider the Alien and Sedition Acts. The act which violated freedom of speech was carefully written so it would expire when the people who wrote it would no longer be in office. The bill was designed so that people could not publish articles criticizing the president or Congress. Freedom of speech is remarkably important, and even if I'm being horribly insulted, I'd always rather have it than lose it and no longer have to deal with that.

[@RustyGator]

Not sure where you are, but "hate speech" is technically protected by the First Amendment in the US. Obscenity and true threats arent protected tho. As a trans guy, I agree that people should use the preferred pronouns for people and not give LGBT people crap just for their sexuality/identity but yea, hate speech is mostly protected

[@itzautumn8986]

We love (platonic) OT for openly admitting that he'd wear a crop top and skirt if it wasnt for his body type

[@maxbaker7841]

I know people with a body type like OT who do, actually. And they look amazing! If he doesn't feel comfortable, that's fine, but personally, I think he'd rock it! (Disclaimer: my taste in men is twink and Dad Bod ™️, so take my opinions with a grain of salt.)

[@SkidTheDumbFox]

Just about every _"popular"_ boy in my class: _asking me out as a stupid joke that I don't get cuz I'm "the ugly girl no one would ever date" even tho I'm repeatedly telling them I'm taken (which is true)_

[@TeenyTonnie]

im a boy but i used to get asked out as a joke too, makes me anxious when someone actually does ask me out that was all in elementary/middle school though, now that im in high school everyone’s grown out of that

[@SkidTheDumbFox]

@@TeenyTonnie Oof- At least they grew up Worst part is, the guys who are doing it _are_ in high school, I'm in Year 10 which is the second to last year before GCSE exams and graduation

[@captaincaspian42]

Same I was asked out in the middle of history class in freshman year and when I said no, that I was already going with a friend, I was called ugly and they said it was a joke anyway 😖 anyway, screw those guys! Go with a friend who will treat you far better than those clowns 😊

[@Lillyluvsanime]

I think boys at my middle school did this. Some kids I didn't even know, that I happened to sit at the same table as during lunch started like, laughing to themselves off to the side. Then one of them got my attention and was like, "my friend likes you, he thinks you're cute," all while thefriend in question is going, "no," to the other. The one that was talking to me said, "would you wanna go out with him?" And me being autistic flat out said no, because I don't know this person, so how would he like me and why would I want to be around someone I don't even know in a dating setting. Also, had not yet realized that I'm just not into guys. Once I was out of the situation I got the feeling they might have been making fun of me.

[@SkidTheDumbFox]

@@Lillyluvsanime I've been victim to those "my friend likes you" thing so often, I'll just be minding my business when suddenly some guy I've never seen in my life walks up to me and says that their friend likes me and I tell them I'm taken (I have been for nearly a year now and they know it perfectly well but they keep up this stupidity)

[@edithbenitez7311]

Ya know what? To cleanse everyone's minds from all the cis nonsense, I'll bless y'all with a wholesome animal fact. Here goes! Green iguanas can learn to recognize the faces of their humans! Isn't that just the cutest?

[@satirestudios5413]

So can goldfish! Nature is amazing 🤩

[@foxfru2266]

Adorable

[@Maggie66112]

Dog noses and koala fingers are basically the fingerprints like humans have. There's each unique. (I'm not sure about the koala tho)

[@kitting7288]

@@Maggie66112 actually I read that koala fingerprints are really close to human ones! Also I'm pretty sure some human-like apes have them too.

[@jacklow9611]

Most pets can, but it *is* more scent with dogs and cats.

[@ascina9222]

"She is for the streets" My brain for no reason whatsoever: A wolf howling in the background as the girlfriend rides towards the sunset along the street, wearing badass looking battle armor, with a huge ass iron sword in hand, on her unicorn.

[@swimmyswim417]

I have no clue what “she is for the streets” is intended to mean but this is the best interpretation I could ever hope for.

[@celiashen5490]

So, you're telling me that She-ra made a wolf friend?

[@bonthebunnycat667]

Y e s

[@HoldmyApplejuice]

@@swimmyswim417 "the streets" is a euphemism for prostitution or w**** or s*** or anything like that.

[@soap7686]

that's epic

[@elissadeannashorts]

I had a male customer ask me out on a date several months back. I politely told him no and when he keep pushing I told him I was a lesbian. (I was wearing the pride flag as earnings I had a temporary pride flag on my cheek. Idk how I could have looked gayer in my work uniform!!) He can back to the store last month and is trying to see if I am "still gay". 🤦‍♀️

[@JennaTheFox277]

Either he's curious, or he's just "that guy" (negatively)

[@haseabolt]

The whole thing where people expect you to know the gender of their dog by the color of the collar is so crazy to me. I always think of Bruiser from Legally Blonde, everything Elle had for him was pink.

[@captaincaspian42]

My old dog was a miniature schnauzer, a small terrier type dog with a cute little mustache and beard! She was also a girl with a black collar and so many older women at the dog park insisted my dog was male because of the way her fur grew. Fricking weirdos, that's how some dogs are- 😂 and then they'll get unbelievably mad if you call their purebred Alaskan malamute a husky on accident

[@nessyness5447]

I have two cats, they are both girls, but one wears pink and the other green just because those are the colours that suit them best with their fur colour. If they were males, they would wear the same colours.

[@avastoyboxandarcade]

Jokes on them, my cat's collar is leopard print.

[@faust7756]

My dogs collar is pink, shes a girl that gets confused to be a boi dog by people. My last dogs collar was purpley pink and people thought he was a boi, honestly its just a tossup if people get my dogs gender right lmao

[@sundalosketch4769]

@@faust7756 I guess most people are just conditioned/use to identifying anybody or anything to be a boy. Especially with the most popular dog-related saying "Who's a good boy?"

[@silverlabilver585]

If a girl says "sorry i have a boyfriend" it refers to the fact that you creep them out and or they don't know you, at all.... Creepy to think that a girl saying she has a boyfriend is the only thing that stops a fucking creep

[@artemis754]

or she actually has a partner lmao

[@squeaktheswan2007]

It's not even the idea that she's with someone. It's the idea that someone would look for her if the creep tried to do something.

[@trianglemoebius]

​@@artemis754 There's a difference between something being true, and something needing to be brought up. I have a wife, for example, but I'm also male-presenting, so when I'm very clearly not interested, the people (women, generally, but also queer men) realise, respect that, and leave me alone. The only times I've had to so much as motion to my wedding ring were by choice, because I love my wife and want to brag about how awesome it is I'm married to her.

[@artemis754]

@@trianglemoebius yea, true. although i do think it's cute you brag about your wife.

[@themapletree2310]

It doesn’t Edit: at least for me

[@Dire2936]

The whole “they’ll call you he/him or she/her until they know you’re trans” thing is so true and so frustrating. It’s happened to me several times

[@montrealderogatory]

This is why I try to default to they/them until stated otherwise as much as I can

[@tangifrangi1215]

@@montrealderogatory Me too! I feel terrible if I accidently misgender them. I'd be talking about a biological girl and be like ''so how is sh-... He- They? So how are they doing?"

[@gamerdogkawaii6666]

@@montrealderogatory Same here :D Im not afraid of misgendering people (Not in like a disrispectful way,cause sometimes by reflex I just say he/her..Cause thats what I have been taught, also I do correct myself) but Im just afraid I will make them uncomftable so, after discussing and educating myself I just go by they/them by default...and ask for their pronouns..Still learning.

[@butter_dem_beans1783]

I’m a cis woman who uses she/her in my bio. The amount of people who call me “boy” or “man” or “sir” out of nowhere is insane to me. They assume just because I share my pronouns, I must secretly be trans. I even had one guy tell me that I “still look like a man”. Like… never was one, but okay?

[@gamerdogkawaii6666]

@@butter_dem_beans1783 Oof, that sucks... But u sure they are not using it as a slang? Cause like dude and guy are now frequently used as Neutral now(I personaly use it like that as well). But till o7 people should not assume..

[@vehicularmanslaughter1296]

I did a lot of the “I identify as an attack helicopter” for a bit, not realizing it was a homo/transphobic “joke” I just didn’t really like my birth pronouns and didn’t know why, (but do genuinely like attack helicopters) Turns out I’m non-binary, so everything makes so much more sense in retrospect

[@FloatyyBrain]

I thought it started off as a joke in the non-binary community and then homo/transphobic people stole it, I had no idea it was always a bad thing..

[@128Gigabytes]

glad I wasn't alone in this had no idea it was transphobic years ago, I guess the absurdity of the "joke" made it go over my head, now flash forward years later, turns out Im a trans woman and I realize now that unfortunately the "joke" is supposed to be comparing valid trans identity with the absurdity of identifying as a helicopter :(

[@warriorcatkitty]

@@FloatyyBrain Same tbh-

[@ascrinkleyfellow]

What!? Bro- I laughed at the joke thinking it was just something silly and cute, Why do transphobes/homophobes gotta ruin everything?? 💀💀💀

[@ideRRedi]

I'm a trans ftm and always said "Eu sou um helicóptero de combate (I am a combat/attack helicopter)" as a joke wtf how is this transphobic??? This shit makes no sense dude

[@ToxicNeon]

Its actually a common tactic for girls to say "i have a boyfriend" when being harassed by another man. Sometimes he wont stop unless he thinks you belong to some other man 🙄 and there are still cases where they dont even stop then. So, i dont do this. Especially because im a lesbian. What i do, while riskier, is far funnier. Men will hit on me, i politely ignore it, they continue, i reject them nicely, then when they wont stop, i just immediately dominate them, verbally. When i've been told, "just stop being a b**** !" I have said in return "funny, that's exactly what your girl told me last night." Another guy wouldn't believe that i'm a lesbian so i just said "b**** your girl calls me daddy" I always get the oddest reactions, but often, they just start scoffing and they leave. I collect hats that say "daddy" and "king" do not test me, only one of us knows where your girl's hotspot is and it sure as heck aint you.

[@OtterPxp]

I LOVE THIS COMMENT SO MUCH HAHAHAH

[@saert8715]

I think men should also try this when a woman forces a bit too much instead of just trying to make her understand that she is unbearable lol

[@crunchcookie1138]

omg, a queen-----

[@haileythurston6280]

You're absolutely right but it's the "sorry" that's a problem, not the "I have a boyfriend." Something like "I'm flattered, but I have a boyfriend and am not really interested" is still sweet and gentle but doesn't sound disappointed that it doesn't work out. That said, men don't stop anyway so I've just started saying "you're ugly and I hate looking at you" instead of being gentle. 🤣

[@michajastrzebski4383]

If she is at the point of being "unbearable", we are long past any words.

[@spaghettidoodle3611]

As a Jewish-American the whole “war on Christmas” thing pisses me off so much I grew up without any holiday specials made for me. Every year I get songs for a holiday I don’t celebrate beaten into my head. My brother is missing spending the holiday with us because he’s at college and students don’t get non Christian religious holidays off of school. My parents have to go to multiple different stores to find appropriate wrapping paper because despite our city’s massive Jewish population, stores will blue stock like 3 rolls a year and hide them where no one will get offended by them and there’s no where in town that sells candles. Hobby Lobby even boycotts Hanukkah because they think is satanic. My family’s holidays are so heavily censored.

[@Jaybird196]

I'm not even religious, to say the least, and that's messed up (what is described, not your complaints, to be clear) .

[@frootsnacc6790]

God, I’m sorry to hear that. It’s complete bullshit that your brother’s college is displaying this blatant favoritism towards Christian holidays, and apparently Hobby Lobby is boycotting an ENTIRE HOLIDAY- Your religion deserves at least a shred of respect

[@nicomoist5336]

Bro the fuck is this blatant discrimination- Man, yeah, you have all right to be angry. That sucks so flipping much that ya brother can't spend time with family :(

[@KiraNightshade]

I got real excited seeing holiday socks with dreidels on them and in really pretty shades of blue. I'm not Jewish, but I just thought they were really neat and I hope having more things for non Christian holidays becomes more prevalent. I've heard more about Diwali in recent years, and I literally had not heard of it until my coworkers from India and Nepal talked about it and it sounded so nice.

[@KiraNightshade]

@@frootsnacc6790 Yeah, that's unfortunately just the state of national holidays in general. My former coworkers from India and Nepal, including the two doctors who own the practice don't get to easily take off for their important holidays and worry they'll lose business if they close for those holidays, even though they're important and can involve spending hours at their temple (I think that's what my coworker called their house of worship) and/or with family, and having to miss out. Meanwhile we'd be off for Christmas and though some celebrated it due to people in the community doing so, it didn't mean as much to them. I think we all need more holidays anyway so I'd love to see more major holidays of different religions being national holidays so schools, govt offices, etc give those off and businesses can follow suit.

[@ninjacoffeebunny4659]

I'm a waitress. I often will greet a table "Hello, Ladies" if the people appear women. Last week I came up to a table doing this and caught the uncomfortable look on one customer's face, so responded "Or guys. I'm sorry, I know I shouldn't assume. I'm neutral, so sometimes I forget pronouns matter to some people." I felt Super awkward, and totally thought I offended them. Apparently not, because I got a $30 tip! Just be open and honest, peeps. It may *literally* pay off 😘

[@BeckyNosferatu]

THIS. Just ask, if you're unsure, it's not difficult! You don't even have to be rude about it! "I'm sorry, I can't tell, what are your pronouns?" then proceed to say the one they said! Generally though, you're not going to get MANY people that are the wrong pronouns, but if you do, it's always good to just say "I'm sorry, what would you like me to call you?"

[@wyattguilliams9479]

@@BeckyNosferatu Difficult? Of course not, but it doesn't matter because people will still get offended. So I'll address people the way I always have... by not talking to them cause I'm anti social and apparently talk too softly to even be heard one foot away in a dead silent room. And also He/She/Guys because I'm not assuming anything and couldn't care less because we'd probably never talk again since daily life and separate ways is a real thing. Like right now once the conversation ends that's it, nothing more nothing less you have your words I have mine the only thing affected is overreacting emotions to things that Don't really matter for the majority of conversations

[@c0zmozys]

i like you. you are awesome.

[@ninjacoffeebunny4659]

@@wyattguilliams9479 But does it really not matter, or are we just unsure as to whether or not it does, and so afraid that it doesn't that we'd rather assume the nihilistic approach is right than consider the possibility that it does? What matters to an individual may not matter on the whole spectrum from a close up point of view, but as a whole only those who believe in themselves can achieve their own full potential. The only way for this world to achieve a brighter future is for everyone to simply do their best to better life as a whole, starting in the small steps we can all take in our everyday lives.

[@wyattguilliams9479]

@@ninjacoffeebunny4659 There are other ways to comfort individuals than correctly guessing a gender pronoun, people take things too literally in a world where nobody really says anything in a literal sense. Because honestly dude, people need to relax. Yes words can cut deeper than any physical injury, but they can also heal and it all depends on context and how it was said to begin with. A lot of you guys seem to overreact while a few have some understanding and can have an honest conversation, I agree that the little changes can lead to a big shift in norms but that's the thing. If you want to see those little changes people need to stop trying to force me to change. Trust and respect are two way streets, if you want it from me and people like me the we need it from you. Long story short Patience is a Virtue

[@qtea3.149]

7:10 OT, I’m gonna say something 11 year old me said to a worker at bath and body works. I was wearing a pink suspender skirt and a lady said “I like your skirt, wish I could wear that and look good in it too.” I said “do you like it and it makes you happy?” She said “yes” so I said “then you look good in it” and I live by that to this day. GO FOR IT MAN!

[@Amy-oo7mm]

The Cis: I'm afraid what will happen if I accidentally use the wrong pronoun. Everyone else: You're being weird, but we'll put pronouns on name tags. The Cis: How dare you!‽

[@kazikek2674]

Let's be fair here, people like what you just described exist, but in this video, two different people, two different cases, two different experiences.

[@bluegirl278]

@Kazik Ek what?

[@kazikek2674]

@@bluegirl278 The person who complained about 'MY WIFE DIDN'T KNOW WHICH PRONOUNS TO USE' and the one who was angry at pronoun name tags were two different cases.

[@bluegirl278]

@@kazikek2674 yeah? They original poster was joking about how transphobs can’t decide what they want. They know It’s two different people, they’re just saying that we can never make them happy because different members of the community want different things.

[@Link-1004]

@@kazikek2674 you are over reading into this bud.

[@gunsandroses896]

As someone who just recently got a trans girlfriend who gets assailed by transphobia a lot, I can confidently say... yeah, no.

[@msthecommentator2863]

I feel this, friend. While I couldn't care less what folks have to say about me, I would defend my trans wife to the grave. ✌️

[@Flameytastic]

WTF THIS IS ALL SO WHOLESOME BOTH THE COMMENT AND THE REPLY DHDBGDHDH

[@sundalosketch4769]

We protect trans and beyond whether they're our family or not. Unless they act like those who would assault them then we treat peeps how they treat others. Gonna be rude and disrespectful? Imma be rude right back if necessary!

[@Flameytastic]

@@sundalosketch4769 yessir

[@ChickenMccZoe]

The entire LGBT community has a *lot* to thank the trans community for in particular.

[@SmallsJam_]

I just spent a few minutes trying to understand what his hoodie says. Dinosaurs are cool Transphobia is not Yes, just yes

[@OneTopic]

JammiDodger’s merch hoodie, if you’re looking for one 😊

[@SmallsJam_]

@@OneTopic oh wait really? Thanks for telling me, I’m gonna go buy one as soon as I can :]

[@JennaTheFox277]

Love JammieDodger!!@@OneTopic

[@bob513993]

Rando: “My wife tried to talk to this person but didn’t know which pronoun to use. Don’t you see how awkward this is??” Intellectual business: /Fixes the problem with pronouns on name tag Rando, probably: “Not like that, that’s woke mind virus bullshit!”

[@skyw3419]

Another day of random facts for OT because he wants random facts from *at least* 12 feet away 1) The Nobel peace prize is named after the guy who invented dynamite, Alfred Nobel. 2) Snails take incredibly long naps. The longest lasting up to 3 years.

[@OneTopic]

I appreciate you providing all of the animal facts, Sky

[@skyw3419]

@@OneTopic Of course, they're some of the best facts I have

[@adrianthethey]

@@OneTopic did you know a group of bunnies is actually called a fluffle?

[@moothecow6908]

Alfred Nobel acctualy created the Nobel peace prize with his dynamite money because he was sad when he realized it could be bad

[@szarekhthesilentking7043]

@@adrianthethey and a group of Crows is called a murder! And a group of ferrets is called a "business", even if ferrets means "little thief"

[@Pipkiablo]

As a nonbinary person, I love how they think I'm going to get offended at hearing someone saying "Merry Christmas" to me like I don't celebrate Christmas too...

[@hrpdrp97]

Ikr, they act like theres a hatred for christmass just cause companies are trying to be more inclusive to other winter hollidays and not alienate customers, there is not a single person i have said "merry christmas" to who got upset. at most, they were indifferent, or would say another Holliday greeting like "happy quanza!" Someone even once said, "i dont celibrate christmas, but i apreciate the good wishes and hope you have a happy christmas"

[@SiRenfield]

My best guess is that it’s playing on the stereotype that LGBTQ+ people are angry atheists that are offended at any slight implication of religion. Even though that’s not even indicative of most secular humanists of the like

[@serpentinewolf7085]

@@SiRenfield I mean they got me in a nut shell. Though I honestly just hate the monotheistic ones.

[@sholem_bond]

Nonbinary is its own religion, didn't u kno /s

[@artsyrache]

Everyone they don’t like shares the same beliefs of course! They need one monolithic enemy to fight against, which is coincidentally what fascists also do. Make of that what you will.

[@luckymoonjoy1278]

What i like to do is say "Yeah, I was born a male but I felt as though it wasn't right for me so I identify as female with she/her pronouns" and just watch as the transphobe immediately starts calling me a guy and using he/him pronouns like "He doesn't even look like a girl-" like, thank you for confirming this for me.

[@jdprettynails]

Had to re-read your comment a few times, so....you're a trans guy bamboozling the transphobes into correctly gendering you, yes?

[@luckymoonjoy1278]

@@jdprettynails yup

[@jdprettynails]

@@luckymoonjoy1278 mwahaha! Gotta get them to respect your identity one way or the other! I approve. :)

[@thegnoblin]

"Children shouldn't be allowed to identify as a gender." Now say that again, but realllly slowly

[@uta6280]

I think it was in Florida and some other states with the don’t say gay bills were some teachers started using they/them for all students and mx for themselves and got rid of all books with pronouns and family roles as good ol malicious compliance.

[@elaineb7065]

Bye bye gender reveal parties!!! People to expectant parents: "What are you having???" Expectant parents: "A BABY, whose gender won't be chosen until THEY understand what gender means!!! And THEY will be dressed in yellow & white: baby colours!!!"

[@siximpossiblethings6388]

So let me get this straight (for lack of better terms) Guy flirts with girl. Girl says no. Guy persists because he does not respect the girl. Guy flirts again. Girl says she has a boyfriend. Guy backs off because guy respects other guy. (I am not forgetting WLW or NBLW relationships, but I am well aware that cishet men have a bad track record for respecting said relationships) Guy now considers girl a woman of the streets because she wishes to be faithful to her boyfriend, or rejects him in the only way he'll respect her wishes. The blatant disrespect for women could be cut with a knife. Another good way of rejecting a guy who won't respect the word "no." For legal purposes, don't cut people.

[@JariDawnchild]

Right. I usually point out that his chances of hooking up with me are FAR lower if he offends me, and disrespecting my right to say "no" is highly offensive. Sometimes they'll wander off, then come back and try again. If this happens more than twice, I tell him he's offending me by insulting my memory retention, mental fortitude, and ability to think for myself. If he then directly insults me, I make an insinuation of him preferring people too young for consent since he insists on trying to treat me like one. The last time I had to do this, his wife later came up to me and demanded to know why I kept talking to her husband. After telling her verbatim the entire exchange, she thanked me, apologized for him, then disappeared with him somewhere.

[@acetixi3770]

It makes me mad on how some straight guys would harass a girl who’s already dating someone to pick him over her bf. Those guys are dense for following something more expired than a year old milk left in the fridge.

[@emilysmith2965]

Pro tip: if he offers to buy you alcohol, request a snack or a soft drink instead, something cheaper or same price as what he was offering. If he’s a chill person, you get to have a conversation AND a snack! And if he throws a fit, it’s not about the money. He was paying to lower your inhibitions. Run.

[@PrincessFidelma]

@@emilysmith2965 ohhhhh. That hit me like a brick.

[@serpentinewolf7085]

Idk I carry knives around for this reason. Persist and you get cut.

[@mantis638]

I’ve always argued the only war on Christmas is the people “defending” Christmas itself. I keep telling my dad that, but still believes it is a real thing.

[@mavendeo]

When the only real war on Christmas is the devaluing of the values and emphasizing the consumerism brought about by corporations shoving it down our throats earlier and earlier every year.

[@mantis638]

@@mavendeo I can agree on that.

[@dynamicworlds1]

Unfortunately, it's much worse than that. If you want to see where that particular scaremongering origionated look up the connections to Henry Ford, but spoilers and content warning: It's unironically a Nazi conspiracy theory they just put white out over the part where they explicitly blamed Jewish people and dropped right on Faux News. Just like "Cultural Marxism" and the "Great Replacement" thing Tucker keeps talking about and which was a prime motivator among the insurrectionists on Jan6th. ...also the Trump and Bush from that generation...the amount of whitewashed Nazi BS around us is absurd.

[@Lillyluvsanime]

I'm a Unitarian Christian Witch. I usually say, "happy holidays." I don't care if someone says, "merry christmas/happy holidays/happy chanukah/blessed yule," I'm just happy someone has something nice to say. The ONLY people I've seen, "waging war," around the holiday season are the ultra conservative Christians who have a problem with inclusivity. Just because other people are ALSO included, doesn't mean that you are now being excluded. And like.... I'm autistic, I tend to have an all or nothing mentality with certain things but like... acceptance and inclusion are NOT finite resources. The inclusion isn't going to be used up by the Jewish people and the pagans (nevermind the fact that MOST Christmas traditions originated from pagan festivals). Not everyone celebrates Christmas, so, "happy holidays," covers all the bases, INCLUDING Christmas and, y'know, new years too. I don't hear people getting mad at the decades old song, "Happy Holidays," either. Just when people in the service industry say it, or when people post on social media. There are more important things to be upset about, like the fact that Indigenous women are still at higher risk of abduction and murder, autistic kids are being abused with electric shocks and being locked in closet at SCHOOLS and so much more. Whether someone says, "happy holidays," instead of, "merry Christmas," is a non-problem.

[@williamwontiam3166]

Well, that and people hating how people advertise for the holiday since early November. But thats just capitalism.

[@Sunny-Bunny7567]

As a cis person, I sincerely apologise for the people that do dumb crap like the things from this video Edit: Remember how I said I was cis? Funny thing actually, I was wrong about that. I think I'm actually closer to being a demi girl than a cis girl. Pronouns are she/they though sometime just they/them feels better. Don't know, still not really sure yet

[@ianrose6218]

As much as we crap all over cis people who are nincompoops and ignoramuses, apologizing on their behalf as a sensible cis person really shouldn't feel like an obligation. Still appreciate the sentiment though! It's nice to hear that even people among them think they're being ridiculous.

[@hasanmuttaqin464]

@@ianrose6218 this

[@flamester6014]

It’s ok we know not all of you are bad people lol

[@Juzokinnie]

As a demiguy, I forgive and thank the cis people who don't do the dumb crap like the things in this video. You should not have to apologize because a minority of cis people do dumb things.

[@marjoriew5989]

We love you @Sunny! No need to apologize on their behalf!

[@lunatrever1987]

Literally at the beginning of this 0:04 when the terf put the glitter lizard emojis all I could think of was a shiny chameleon. It’s name is glizerd and now it’s all I can think about

[@LittleGreenCar514]

The reason why I am so respectful of other people's pronouns is thanks to my mom. She had stage 4 breast cancer and had gone through a double mastectomy. She sported a shaved head because her hair had started falling out from the chemo treatments. We were at a group gathering, and she had taken off her head scarf due to the heat. Someone tapped her on the shoulder and said, "Excuse me, sir." She froze, her face crumpled, and she cried. It wasn't said out of malice or with any intention to emotionally cripple one of the strongest women that I had ever known, but it only took one word.

[@sevans8784]

It's a good reminder that in certain circumstances, cis people can get gender dysphoria too. I'm sorry she had to go through that :(

[@OzCroc]

Imagine being that rude and calling her sir

[@junkoenoshima2756]

@@OzCroc they didn't know its not the person's fault either it was an honest mistake

[@martelraykin]

@@junkoenoshima2756 But why the need to say sir/ma'am instead of just excuse me ? I never understood that even before I knew about trans people

[@atidbitmad3811]

@@martelraykin using sir/ma’am is pretty much just a more formal or respectful way to get someone’s attention that you either don’t know or is older than you, at least that’s what I’ve been taught.

[@spectralLane]

Bruh now they're pretending people get angry about Christmas despite the fact they freak out about other's saying "happy holidays" just to be considerate-

[@DeadHaremGuy]

It's just quicker to say that than list off every single holiday

[@spectralLane]

@@DeadHaremGuy ye

[@ClownHoundII]

I know right! A guy tried to explain to me saying that was getting rid of Christmas and stealing his right to speech; that he should be able to say Christmas. He got mad when I told him to have a Happy Yule (my religion holiday) and said that's wrong of me to say, it should have been "Merry Christmas to you" and told me to stop "forcing my religion" onto him.

[@snz530]

@@ClownHoundII well it looks like he’s probably not going to be having a happy yule

[@ClownHoundII]

@@snz530 Damn, what a shame! Maybe his Winter Solstice can be blessed. Oh wait. If I say that he might get offended. /j

[@justasadenbylookingatmemes4623]

A couple weeks ago my school got a new counselor and she introduced herself by asking our pronouns. My mom got so mad about this that she ranted to me for 30 minutes about how it's the 'gay agenda' and they're 'only asking these questions to confuse kids.' Like, mom, it's not the end of the world, and we are literally a class of _10th graders._

[@legrandliseurtri7495]

''confused kids'' *15-16 years-old stares*

[@lepurpleboi3266]

*mildly confused demi noises*

[@BlueEngland]

I'm from the UK, how old are 10 grades?

[@Mostlyharmless1985]

@@BlueEngland 16+

[@jessicaepple6641]

I relate to this unfortunately much. How does this keep happening lol

[@634n5]

7:50 THESE CLOTHES MAKE MY ALREADY FRAGILE MASCULINITY THREATENED. I WILL INSULT YOU AND ANYONE WHO DISAGREES WITH ME. AHHHH.

[@rainbow_fox_]

fun fact: my first language is French. im also non-binary. in French, EVERYTHING is gendered, and there are practically no gender neutral option. I not only learned English to the point where I'm now perfectly bilingual, I also had to learn the concept of gender-neutral pronouns (they/them and it/its), which is very hard to do when you've been brainwashed all your life into thinking that male and female / masculine and feminine are the only two options for literally everything in life. but guess what? I did it. and in the end, learning a whole new language was still harder than learning how to correctly use new pronouns. so if your first language is English, and you're trying to complain about how "it's so hard to learn how to use the correct pronouns": shut up and do it already. it's not hard, you're just not trying hard enough.

[@unbekannternutzer25]

This. My first language is German. It is widely gendered as well but we have the concept of an 'it' (es). We don't have a 'they' tho, or rather it's the same word as our 'she' (sie). So while it's possible to talk gender neutral, it's not. When we have separate words, grammar doesn't play along. But too often to ignore that and make it right male and neutral have the same word. Not to mention the cases (the stuff that's responsible that the male 'the' becomes female). In addition I had Spanish in school for a year. The concept of male and female only, neutral doesn't exist, was so strange. Like, how do you say anything? So yeah english speaker, you have all the words you need. It does work out. Just use it!

[@mermaidismyname]

@@unbekannternutzer25 interestingly enough in Texas German, which is a dying dialect but still technically exists, if you don't know the gender for something you default to "die" so you default to the feminine even though the neutral exists and most languages default to the masculine - so I have no idea why that is. And yeah, as a native English speaker one of the more frustrating things about learning French, German, and Spanish is that I'm always like "what are these genders? Why are these genders? They don't even make sense!" Which is why I appreciate Texas German for the default to die thing. Unfortunately Texas people learning German as a second language and adopting Texas Deutsch mannerisms will not save the dying dialect.

[@silverling_]

This remembered me of something kinda similar I'll like to talk about, and is that Hispanic people also need to know that it's not that hard. I'm non-binary as well and also Latin American, and as a lot of people already know Spanish is a gendered language too (although, right now some of us are opened to gender neutral alternatives that are practically the equivalent of neopronouns) and the thing is, Hispanic people don't only tend do denied non-binary people existence by saying they're "people that want attention" or "people who don't like gender roles", but also they try to denied that "they/them" can be used as singular, and the thing they always say to try to defend themselves is "But I'll have to learn English all over again", and other things to victimize themselves and try to make non-binary people look like "evil woke people that want to brainwash us", and the worst part is that they look so sure when telling English speakers that they're speaking their own language wrong.

[@unbekannternutzer25]

@@silverling_ "but I have to learn English all over again" is the dumbest excuse. I was 2 years out of school when I first realised that 'quite' and 'quiet' are spellt different. Even in german I often come across new things I didn't hear before. Heck I only have to drive a few kilometers in a direction I'm not _that_ often to hear a new word in my on dialect. They/them aren't new words to learn, only the usage changes. Even the grammar stays the same 🤦‍♀️ Not getting better means getting worse. No matter how old someone is. Please, next time you hear something like that, spit some facts for me ✌️ Edit because I missed it in my rant: "they look so sure when telling English speaker they use their own language wrong" Use standard boomer comeback number 1: "no, your just lazy"

[@dynamicworlds1]

Yeah, gramatical gender is a mess in all sorts of ways...when English has room to go "wtf is up with that arbitrary convoluted nonsense?" you have a mess on your hands...but I suppose languages being messy in their own ways is kinda par for the course.

[@matthewhalo1799]

“It’s not a matter of your freedom of speech, it’s a matter of people are less willing to put up with your nonsense” Perfect response, people should use this unless they do already

[@TrinityShoji]

Am passing it around already!!

[@inyxblackstone4756]

My usual response is: "Sure, you get to reserve your right to free speech, but that means I get to reserve the right to call you a moron!"

[@nukiradio]

"Free speech free speech free speech" I have the right to call myself a woman "F-f-f n-n-n b-b-b"

[@maplepainttube8158]

Even in the comic, it would only take 2 brain cells to see that right to free speech means that the kid also has the right to use her free speech to call out her dad's bigotry.

[@dynamicworlds1]

It's always "rules for the, not for me"...

[@crestren5996]

I love that "Merry Christmas" comic because its just full of projection. No one gets offended by "Merry Christmas", but there are people who DO get offended when you say "Happy Holidays". Just look at the War on Christmas conservatives keep doing every year.

[@ashleycd6487]

"No one gets offended by saying 'Merry Christmas'" Karens: am I a joke to you?

[@BeckyNosferatu]

I say "Merry Christmas, Happy Holidays" together just to burn those bitches up. >:D

[@meinenklinke]

Omg, when I was working at Hastings I did a lit dry erase drawing of Sarah Palin with reindeer ears saying “Happy Holidays” because her book had just come out. Some lady YELLED at me about how Sarah Palin would NEVER say that… like any of us had an issue with Happy Holidays before the news shouted about it being inclusive which is… bad?

[@MortMe0430]

And those same conservatives don't seem to remember that even another *gasp* Christian could be saying happy holidays to someone if they don't know whether they'll see them between approx thanksgiving and new year's. Mind blown.

[@YochevedDesigns]

You want to see someone's head blow up? Wish them Happy Chanukah. Works every time.

[@chaoscreature]

I’m cis and straight but love watching these, it makes me think “hm… I guess I’m just one of the decent ones” lmao

[@asurasyn]

You're a credit to your people. 😂

[@greatestape960]

I wish people stopped thinking like this, your normal. despite all these Reddit posts most straight cis people dont care

[@eileen7072]

@@greatestape960 you're*

[@saveoursquirrels4241]

The main thing I normally get with cishet ppl is that they don't entirely 'get it' but most of em don't go out of their way to be terrible like the folks you seen in these memes. So I'd say most cis people are okay.

[@Cozi_The_Art_Devourer]

same honestly

[@FennekinBraixen]

We really need a "Days without cis(het) nonsense" blackboard. If we get over the 2 days mark I'll make cake for everyone

[@kitkattkandybarz7312]

Heck yea, cake!

[@msthecommentator2863]

Man...I really wanted that cake. 😔

[@guydisorder]

what colour is the inside of it? 👀🤭 /j

[@dynamicworlds1]

*hours without cis(het) nonsense

[@Reedstilt]

Aw... we're never going to get cake, are we?

[@squ4r3h4mm3r]

"The pronoun people" has got to be the best name for people who identify with genders apart from their assigned at birth one

[@AdamOfIngolstadt]

Phe Pronoun People is to Trans as The Village People is to Gay

[@iasminaraujo7109]

Cishet: "I went to a store and didn't know how to refer to some of the staff" Cishet sees id with pronouns: "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO" Make it make sense

[@CountessJJ]

I think its partly because that was an excuse. I didn't misgender them, I couldn't tell their gender. If the pronouns are there, they can't get away with misgendering without looking like the jerks they are.

[@noneofyourbusiness2854]

11:40 So I looked it up and apparently “Going Green” means: "Going green" means to pursue knowledge and practices that can lead to more environmentally friendly and ecologically responsible decisions and lifestyles, which can help protect the environment and sustain its natural resources for current and future generations. … I have no idea what this has to do with trans peeps tbh

[@Emily12471]

They've recycled their gender

[@Cozi_The_Art_Devourer]

​@@Emily12471🤯

[@BlazingKhioneus]

Nah, they just wanted people to not pick Pokémon red. They need someone to trade them a Meowth.

[@Rutanachan]

If someone looks at me, they'd think "She's obese. She just needs to count calories and work out!", but sometimes, it's not that simple. Ever since I got into my puberty, I gained weight. The reason is called Lipedema. It's a disease, where your fat cells literally don't function as they should. They grow in size, press on your lymphetic system, which releases water into them, which makes them grow even more. And since it's not fat, the body CAN'T WORK WITH IT. I CAN'T loose weight from these fatcells. I tried. Before I finally got diagnosed, I counted calories, to a point where I limited my daily intake to 1000 !!!! calories a day. When I stopped loosing weight, I tried to cut this down even more !!!! I developed an eating disorder, basically becoming underweight in my attempt to gain a normal weight. I stopped this nonsense when I had a MENTAL BREAKDOWN over the beans my boyfriend ate for dinner, that I DIDN'T ALLOWED MYSELF TO EAT. I weight 85kg back then. I'm now on a constant 130kg. I count calories, I do exercise (walking or swimming), but I live a happier life and don't get myself crazy over weight I can't loose without surgery - surgery that is IMPORTANT if I don't want to end up in a wheelchair someday, but that I can't undergo right now, because there's a pandemic, and the beds are needed for people who literally fighting for survival. But here's the thing: I eat normal, healthy even. I'm a vegetarian since I was 12. Yes, I have a sweet tooth, not gonna deny that, but I try to keep it in check :D And I don't massively gain weight. So 130kg is probably my basic weight. Which means that I hungered myself down to 45kg (that's 99lbs) UNDER MY NORMAL WEIGHT. And for the longest time, it didn't even bothered me, which bothers me now! Please, be very careful before you try to pressure people into diets, when you don't know why they are overweight. There are diseases like mine, that you are born with, that you can't change yourself. And there are diseases like depression, or burn-out, that make it mentally impossible to loose weight, because you need food to balance out your mental health. And criticizing and pointing out helps in NON of these cases! Because, OH SHOCK, we KNOW that we're overweight. We don't need someone else to point it out to us.

[@xanthemothcat]

I’m not overweight myself but I really hate the bullying people give to people who are. It’s not fair, there’s so many medical conditions that cause obesity and the food industry itself is encouraging it as well. Bullying never makes problems better, but yet all these people still think they should just bully anyone that isn’t skinny into losing weight. It doesn’t work that way, most people who are overweight are already aware of what they need to do, and if anything need calm and patient advice from a good doctor or nutritionist, and not an asshole on the fucking internet.

[@lalvarado3055]

This story is beautiful (the ending where you're happy with yourself the way you are, not the eating disorder part). :)

[@JariDawnchild]

I'm glad you're alright with yourself now. :) This isn't some silly-assed misguided attempt to get you "skinnier", there's actual medical science to back this up: have you tried massage therapy to attempt to work the extra water out? Best of luck and good health to you. :)

[@Haru-rs2su]

I always get told that "You'll never get fat, you don't understand" when I talk to people about weight, so I just don't anymore. I'm glad despite all the health troubles you have, you're happier now, even if I don't know you. People don't seem to get that advice isn't unwelcome, but we need to be careful about it. Keep it up, stay healthy and ignore those who run their mouths! One day they'll be so busy fixing themselves that they won't have time to butt in on your business. 😁

[@fnjesusfreak]

I'm overweight for a number of reasons, one of which is that I have a defective ticker.

[@yohumanfrisk]

What's stopping me from dressing like that? Nothing. I do dress like that. Feminine boys are a bop, join us. ONE OF US! ONE OF US!

[@JennaTheFox277]

You're a femboy? I've always been interested in the community

[@macularius]

"why the glitter? why the lizard?" honestly i get asked this about most of my outfits

[@karolinkiehl4097]

I think the lizard used to be some kind of dog whistle for terfs/the alt right. They often change it so don't come at me if it's wrong.

[@macularius]

@@karolinkiehl4097 this is why we can't have nice things

[@nessyness5447]

Change lizard for snakes/snake print and same

[@throwaway1743]

"Children should not be allowed to identify as a gender." As an agender person, I understand the desire, but I think people who want to identify as a gender should be able to. Some people want to find communities of others that share presentations and roles similar to themselves. I think the system fails when we force these same presentations and roles onto people who do not consent to it. Oh, that's not what you meant?

[@chancerbox1935]

I agree. I understand the importance of making sure kids are properly educated about gender and not forced to conform to gender stereotypes, but once they have made a decision about their gender identity, it's important to respect that. Holding kids back from choosing their gender is exactly the tactic that transphobes use, and we can't let ourselves go down to their level.

[@tiaharukatrotta4881]

I'm a cis woman and when I was growing up in the 80s my parents insistence in making sister and I to use/wear agender or unisex things and behaviors helped to ruin our self-esteem

[@BeckyNosferatu]

@@tiaharukatrotta4881 Yeah, forcing any kind of belief of gender is never a good thing. If you're Asexual, it's not up to you to say "YOU WILL NOT CALL THEM BY SHE/HER UNTIL THEY DECIDE!" Most kids won't even know how to self identify outside of "I'm a girl, I'm a boy" and it won't be until they reach puberty that they really understand that kind of thing. The best thing you can do is "Do you like that dress? Okay, but remember, you might get picked on for being a boy. Not everyone sees dresses as a boy thing. Do you still want it? I'll support your decision." Saying that to a kid doesn't set them up for failure, it gives them insight to understand "Not normal situations, but it doesn't matter, you will love them anyway." I know a lot of people wouldn't even mention that kind of thing, but you should, because you don't want your kid to grow up bullied any more than they already are going to be. (it happens, there will always be bullying, kids are just mean) The important thing is that they understand that social constructs ARE a thing, and even if they disagree with it, Even if YOU disagree with it, there will always be someone who disagrees. And that's okay.

[@tiaharukatrotta4881]

@@BeckyNosferatu totally agree! also, thx for that. I've been already called shallow and sexist for complaining about not being forced into a gender by feminist cis het parents lol

[@thesfnb.5786]

Being a plumber is also a role. You can just join a community of plumbers. Doesn't have to be anything related to gender in the slightest. Is it really a good idea to have gender, something inherently sexualized, on the forefront a child's mind?

[@ultimateninjaboi]

Im a Christian. And Ive never once encountered anyone actually being offended by "Merry Christmas." I HAVE, however, been called "Anti-Christian," or some variation of "hateful towards Christians," MULTIPLE TIMES, for saying "Happy Holidays," in November. XP

[@samuelwolch1302]

I guess it makes sense in December for you to encounter lots of snowflakes around that time.

[@thecaffinatedthrifter5499]

Christian also here! (not conservative). It's almost like it's the Christians who are usually the intolerant ones? 🤔🧐 They got some projection going on

[@sarahvanrooyen7280]

Why? That makes no sense, people are so rude

[@xd._.28234]

LMAO

[@DanaTheInsane]

Remind them Bing Crosby said it first.

[@hprew2082]

9:27 - oh wow! Also I went into buld-a-bear recently and the employees had prounouns on their badges

[@eatingpants5145]

My work’s been promising that for, like a year.

[@h3robug33]

Since people want to define their gender with their clothes, i propose: everybody has to wear the same unisex outfit, mandatory. Which Outfit? Well, it would need to offer protection, be stylish and keep you warm while possibly hiding any signs of your sex... Medieval plate armor. I say we all wear plate armor.

[@TikoVerhelst]

Yep! Even as an atheist, I wouldn't mind seeing everyone with Saint George crosses on their chest. Or whatever other cool crest you would like to wear on your chess. (Although that might cause some civil wars...Let's just go with Saint George's cross.)

[@dannythekingofchaosandkitt4892]

Yesss! I want to be in Templar (is it correct?) armor 😍 and become a dragon king 🐲🐉

[@loganjurcak3800]

Nah give me an "HEV" suit

[@Alchemy818.]

Those blow up dinosaur costumes could go on top too

[@squishykotetsu]

@@Alchemy818. OVER THE PLATE ARMOR? Genius, you deserve a raise

[@saltypork101]

"don't hire people with pronouns in their bio" - jokes on you, we don't want to work for you anyway.

[@Mojo_3.14]

My 75 year old mom was all excited to tell me about the "transvestite" on Jeopardy. She was all like "That's her! She's winning!" Me: "Um, do you mean Trans Woman?" Followed by a confused conversation about yes, those are are different words and mean different things. Side note, I'm really bad at explaining things, it's one of the reason why I watch OT, it really helps.

[@spleens4200]

Isn’t transvestite the old word for drag queens? Or is it transphobic and I’m just not aware? Genuine question, would really like to know

[@RozyPoyo]

@@spleens4200 I thought that it was a word for people new to specifically california. Huh.

[@barrylangille3523]

@@spleens4200transvestite was used for drag queens, yes. I may be wrong, but I think it's more specifically used for otherwise straight men who enjoy dressing in women's clothes.

[@nightsgrow6575]

@@spleens4200 pretty much yeah, can be used interchangeably with “cross-dresser”. Not good to use when talking about trans people as it implies it’s a hobby or an interest rather than part of their identity. In my country it was used interchangeably with trans person as well back in the day, but people are learning.

[@MrLeFluffy1]

This is a great example of how older generations might sound hateful on accident, simply because they weren't aware of terminology changes or new terms. It took a while for my mom to start using "trans" and "transgender" instead of "transexual" or "transvestite", purely because back in the 80's when my mom was friends with all the drag queens in san francisco and was known as the straight ally at all the gay bars and attended as many pride parades as she could, the term that was used was "transvestite". Also, information wasn't anywhere near as readily accessible as today, so the suppression of ideas and identities was far easier. As a result, even many peoole my mom says most likely were trans never identified as such, and were more likely to identify as simply homosexual, which is also where many of the stereotypes of feminine gay men and masculine lesbians comes from - many of them were trans, but without the common and accessible knowledge of what being trans is, they didn't know. Also, it was often harder to be trans than just gay, and many didn't want to suffer that way. And many people in the LGBTQIA+ society themselves would describe themselves with terms that are not okay today, like calling a butch lesbian the d slur. My mom also struggled with not using that term, because when she was young and going to clubs and such, that term was used with pride by members of the lesbian community! Many lesbians used that term to describe themselves, and did so with pride. So when my mom learned that that term has since been stolen by hateful groups and become not just an insult but a full SLUR, she was taken aback. How could that be a slur, when people FOUGHT just to use that term for themselves? Hell, even many old gays will describe themselves as femme and not mean what it means today. A lot of the words that today are hateful slurs, are that way because they were terms the LGBTQIA+ community used with pride, but because of the stance of society, those terms were picked up by hateful groups and became red flags, became dangerous. For the sake of an example, pretend the word lesbian was becoming a slur. If I called myself a lesbian with pride, and people came up to me and asked, "hey, you a lesbian?" I would likely respond with "yes, I am!". That group then proceeds to beat me almost to death, and because of society at the time, when I'm taken to the hospital and they ask what happened, they too hear me say I'm a lesbian and suddenly I'm in the waiting room when I should be in emergency surgery. And when the cops come, and I try to press charges and they ask why they did it, what was said, and I say "they asked if I was a lesbain, and I sais yes", and suddenly the cops start gaslighting, or even just walk away...the term lesbian is no longer safe. Don't call me that, because suddenly people asking if I'm a lesbian aren't just fellow LGBTQIA+ or their allies - it's people who are looking for people to hurt and even kill. And then you stop calling yourself a lesbian because now its a neon sign shouting "HEY, HOMOPHOBES! COME BEAT ME UP!" and so the community begins to shift towards a new term, while the homophobes are left using the old one they've corrupted. And because society does nothing to stop it, it becomes a slur. That's how things like the d slur became a slur, but old allies might still use it and not realize they're being anything other than a knowledgeable ally. So when, in context, an older person is using outdated terminology but doesn't appear to be hateful, simply...outdated, don't be so quick to anger. Sometimes, they're people who very much were or even are still LGBTQIA+ themselves or passionate advocates or allies, and as time progressed and society started pushing back against hate, didn't quite catch up on all of the transformations or even new additions to terminology. (Like sexualities - in the 80's, you were gay, straight, or bisexual, for the main part. Even being bisexual wasn't something that was common knowledge, and was often mocked as being either a gay who is scared to be gay, or a straight that wants attention, despite many bisexual people existing. Hell, even simply being bigender was often called being bisexual by bigender people themselves far before the 80s!). TL;DR Is basically this: over the past 100 years alone, there's been countless additions and evolutions to what terminology is used by and for LGBTQIA+ people. If someone is using a slur but not in a hateful way, don't immediately attack them - there's a chance they simply weren't aware of the change with that word!

[@sophiepedigree7139]

It's actually refreshing to see a terf call terfself a terf instead of throwing a smokescreen and calling terfself "gender critical". I approve of this. This way we know exactly who terf is, and to avoid terf.

[@thiscarnivorestudent7586]

"The GENDER people" Yes, the gender people, led by the gender council. We have long awaited your trial, Jeffery. Come to us. The Gender Council will decide your fate The message was made by THE GENDER GANG (tm)

[@UnknownUser-cg4tg]

LMFAO-

[@UnknownUser-cg4tg]

Yes, The Gender Council will decide your fate 😩

[@thiscarnivorestudent7586]

@@UnknownUser-cg4tg (spoken by an agender/demi-girl-flux btw :) )

[@UnknownUser-cg4tg]

@@thiscarnivorestudent7586 ooo cool! I'm gender fluid! :)

[@thiscarnivorestudent7586]

@@UnknownUser-cg4tg OH MY GOD YESSSSSSS Hey do you want to join... THE GENDER GANG???????

[@Werevampiwolf]

One thing with the "possibly transgender waitstaff" - only third person pronouns are gendered in English. If you're talking to someone, the correct pronouns for that person are you/your/yours. "Hello, can I ask you something?" Ect. Not knowing a person's pronouns in no way effects your ability ability to talk to a person, only your ability to talk *about* them

[@b.f.2461]

Yes, I never found the issue to be significant unless you commonly talk about people in the third person to their face.

[@Petrichor_Pyroclast]

There is one way that pronouns might enter the mix: words like "sir", "ma'am", "miss", "mister", and "mx." can be considered pronouns. Some people might begin a conversation with a retail worker by saying "excuse me, ma'am/sir", so if they're trying to do that, they may run into pronoun issues with trans retail workers. Which is understandable, but there are solutions, like dropping the ma'am/sir or equivalent and just making sure your voice is respectful when you ask for help.

[@SpringStarFangirl]

There you go. In _English._ The author of that tweet had an Israeli name. Hebrew is fully gendered and there are only a handful of words that aren't gendered- and none of them are pronouns.

[@asher-360]

@@SpringStarFangirl Giving the benefit of the doubt here, having an Israeli name does mean he was speaking Hebrew at the time, or was in Israel, etc (also, nothing stopped his wife from simply asking that server)

[@SpringStarFangirl]

@@asher-360 I'll give you that. But, as a cis ally in Israel, it takes a lot of thought to phrase a request for pronouns without using gendered words.

[@itragoresovo105]

I can’t believe the cis people, how dare they try to fool OT. They gave him hope and said some how rude… WE SHALL BOT FORGET THIS !!!

[@hasanmuttaqin464]

bot(do not edit your comment, i dun wanna feel stoopid)

[@itragoresovo105]

@@hasanmuttaqin464 Like right after the second I posted this comment I noticed how I wrote bot instead of not and I didn’t wanna bother to change the original

[@itragoresovo105]

@@kenmorashade7943 thx… I guess, I did notice it but than I had to repost or edit it and so no

[@komodo227]

bot 😩😛😈

[@vegeta6169]

12:53 "yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery, but today is a gift. that's why it's called the present"-Master Oogway

[@aalrightperson2789]

I am amazed how people can get so angry about someone’s gender.

[@ThisChangeIsAwful]

they feel its an affront to their god. We cannot reason with these people as they think their god makes no mistakes.

[@smileyhappyface5864]

@@ThisChangeIsAwful Why do you remind me of someone? 🤔

[@thelemonphoenix]

Cishet people: OH NO EVERYONE’S OBSESSED WITH GENDER!!! THE WORLD IS ENDING!!!!!! Also cishet people: *creating purposelessly gendered items, reinforcing stereotypical male/female behavior norms, associating colors with gender and putting people into cramped boxes just so they can be more secure in their fragile/toxic masculinity or femininity* It reeks of insecurity

[@CyberController-]

I mean, get a plant or play an MMO. There are better things to do with your free time.

[@dantehamlet00]

​@@CyberController-exactly, so why Care about someones gender? Theres mamy more useful things to do.

[@Kaleidosaur]

The people on about referring to the slowpoke as "they" have clearly forgotten that most legendaries are genderless.

[@msthecommentator2863]

Toxic men: don't lead a man on if you're taken, ladies. That's not fair to us. Women: sorry, I have a partner already Also toxic men: SHE IS A HUSSY AND WOULD HAVE IF SHE WASN'T TAKEN

[@justsparrow3461]

Let me explain the “getting upset at merry Christmas” thing: Pride days are about validation for LGBTQ+ people. A lot of us have homophobic families and cannot go home for Christmas because either they won’t let you or they’ll invalidate and harass you at every turn. Of course, the comic is an exaggeration, but Christmas is not a fun time for me being genderfluid and bisexual in a homophobic and transphobic family so I can understand why the character would be upset.

[@mndlessdrwer]

Feel free to reply with any of the non-Christian holidays which fall around the same time: Kwanzaa, Hannukah, Saturnalia, Yule, Diwali (depends on the year, this year it'll be in October or November, depending on the culture), Yalda, Soyal, Inti Raymi, etc. You'll find that most cultures tend to have a celebration for the winter solstice, and Christmas was actually moved to that time of the year specifically to coincide with and assimilate these winter solstice celebrations.

[@themisfitowl2595]

As someone whose family would buy really dumb clothes Every Single Christmas, I find the whole "really long T-shirt" segment feels wrong on both sides. Point 1. Don't flip out and cancel Christmas over a piece of clothing. Point 2. Don't force someone to wear something they don't want to. That is just mean. Wear what you want.

[@nessyness5447]

I suspect that person was kidding about purchasing them the tshirt just to mess with them because of how they overreacted at just the suggestion of it.

[@crowwithgreeneyes9054]

My mom was joking about getting my dad one of those for ages. Last year, she did...and he LOVES it🙂 She doesn't even put it in the closet after laundry is done bc she knows he's going to take it as soon as possible... Original quote:" if I just had known earlier how COMFY this is..." so guys, you should probably give it a try and not wait 68 years...

[@Uragani]

Yeah that hit me really wrong. I have family members who have ignored me saying no to clothing items, not because of gender norms, but because I don't want them to waste money on something I don't want anything to do with because I'm uncomfortable with it. My boundaries are important, and having them ignored because someone wants to be cute or funny? No. Not happening. This just enforces the feeling of being attacked, and makes you hate the thing more. I was consistently given things, or teased about someone getting things, that I hated to the point of tears and furious yelling because no one would listen to me and me saying very simply, NO. Then they'd mock me for getting upset, and/or get upset themselves I didn't like the thing I said no to over and over again. The way they came out of the gate being aggressive and using hyperbole and threats to try and make their partner actually listen to them? Says this isn't a one time thing. This is consistently happening, and is super against their will. It doesn't matter if it's "just a joke" it doesn't matter if they're "cis and being silly about a gender norm" it erodes trust like wild. If you were trans and your Mom kept trying to force you into a dress you'd be pissed too if it didn't fit with how you percieved yourself. It doesn't change just because someone feels uncomfortable AND is cis. If anyone does shit like this, sit them down and talk to them about this stopping, or get the heck out. This is lowkey emotional abuse.

[@Bobo-Nose]

Yeah, that's how I felt too.

[@mallgoth]

@@crowwithgreeneyes9054 I bet your dad is rocking that shirt

[@rw7873]

I don’t why, but I imagine that OT would just be like the best teacher for all grades really. Like the teacher who wouldn’t at all mind if a student talked to him about home life or their interests or whatever. Or who would memorize all the names and birthdays of his students. You know, just one of those teachers who you wish would be your teacher forever. This is sappy lol. All I’m saying is, you’re doing great things OT!😊

[@haphuongnguyen3358]

Omg, if all teachers are like that, I'd get straight As for everything

[@R_i_t_s_u]

Oml yes

[@echiko4932]

Id love to be a teacher like that, someone kids genuinely look up to, but i dont have nearly enough charisma or patience for it qwq

[@J4CKS0N_D34R3ST]

I once had a teacher like that two years in a row but unfortunately they only taught the really young kids.

[@echiko4932]

@@J4CKS0N_D34R3ST now i think about it i had a teacher like that in my last 2 years of primary school, yknow the type u accidentally call dad on occasion.

[@evelynrose713]

The one guy complained that his wife didn’t know the waiters pronouns and that she was stepping on eggshells. This person (9:31) complains that the workers have their pronouns on their nametags. Wonderful.

[@katietaylor9140]

*egg shelves

[@pioneer_ten]

I was gonna say egg shelves but Katie beat me to it

[@pluto3194]

You can't win with them, they'll never be happy.

[@rubeniscool]

And that is how you know that it's not actually about any of the excuses they come up with, it's simply about being bigoted against people who are different to them.

[@serpentinewolf7085]

I just want one that’s literally Idc.

[@Anon-oh4pz]

4:10 all i would add to that purchase is an old candle holder

[@emmafeickert8855]

Okay but... ...I want that long t-shirt! I get dysphoria from dresses, and I STILL want it!

[@emissary8071]

Same! It looks so comfy!!

[@matheusmorais5862]

I'm ordering the entire stock,screw who wants to speak non-sense i will get the confiest shirt on earth

[@charliev4156]

It does look super comfy for lounging around or sleeping. P.S: I love your cool ace flag(colours) profile picture

[@Stardreamer-yo4ql]

It does look comfy (like your ace profile, btw)

[@Angel_Kittichik]

It does look super comfy. X3 I love your pfp btw, Ace Pride

[@SevCaswell]

Free speech is not freedom from consequences. Also a nightshirt was the defacto nightwear for men for most of history...

[@barrylangille3523]

Actually nightwear is relatively new. Sleeping nude was always the thing. The old trope about pulling blankets up to the chin and looking scandalized if someone entered the bedroom comes from that. But yes, after they were invented, nightshirts like the ones in the pictures were for men. Women wore longer, usually frillier ones.

[@krankarvolund7771]

@@barrylangille3523 Sleeping nude, in a common bed, sometimes with total strangers in a inn ^^

[@SevCaswell]

@@barrylangille3523 People as far back at the early medieval period wore nightclothes, even if it was just a linen shift. You're probably right about dedicated nightwear being something more modern, probably around the 17th century when cotton became common. So 300-400 years or so...

[@srg24601]

This dude: how DARE they put pronouns on name tags! The wife from the earlier post: *sobbing in relief*

[@KatietheKreator]

These people are like, “I HATE PRONOUNS!!!” Like what do you want us to do, call you by your name all the time like “Bob went to the store to buy some groceries for Bob’s family, then Bob went home.” Not to mention that I and me are pronouns too, so everyone would be talking like Elmo like me saying “Hi, Katie’s name is Katie! Katie is commenting on a video that Katie is watching.” Like that is so ridiculous

[@baoxuezhang3300]

that, what, which, who, whom, whose, this, these, those, another, any, anybody, anyone, anything, both, each, either, everybody, everyone, everything, neither, nobody, none, no one, one, other, some, somebody, someone, such, each other, one another, either, each, neither, any, none these are also pronouns in the grammatical sense (different types of pronouns but pronouns nonetheless) so uh how you gonna ask questions without interrogative pronouns

[@Rocket_3419]

@@baoxuezhang3300 You figured it out! We won’t be able to question things (like cisnormativity) anymore without pronouns. That’s why TERF’s want to get rid of them!

[@TheLiverThief]

Hi, the names Katie! Currently commenting on a video.

[@brennamacdonald2825]

“Pronoun person agenda” sounds like the person forgot who they were supposed to be mad at but still wanted to be mad.

[@magicalmonsters2013]

It sounds like they forgot what a trans person was so they just called us "pronoun people"

[@shoam8255]

My god the fragile masculinity is STRONG in the one about the long shirt smh

[@xd._.28234]

ikr lmfao

[@sophiathefurbst]

masculinity so fragile you cancel christmas

[@RinitaChan]

Almost like they forgot that men and women wore long, dress-like garments for sleep and regular wear.

[@Terrorn13]

@@RinitaChan heck yeah when i saw them i went like, woooa we can be dressed like mr scrooge(donno the spelling) and go "hrrrmm humbug" 😊 sadly i cannot sleep without pants n socks also😖

[@blitzburn2871]

The funny thing is that that IS what dudes used to wear to bed a few decades back

[@spellwithane6888]

Completely agree on the "I have a bf"- excuse. So often the "claim" of another man is the only excuse that's valid. So annoying.

[@elfrog98]

Except the dude that messaged me on IG 🤦 I say husband repeatedly and he's still all 😍😍😍 "I love that, sweetie"

[@PanthereaLeonis]

If I ever get in that situation, I'm going to say "I've got a *girlfriend*" just to see what happens! Being "taken" isn't the only valid argument against going out with someone? And even if one were "taken", there are plenty of poly relationships too! Geez. It's so dumb.

[@spellwithane6888]

@@PanthereaLeonis if you get a douche (which we're assuming in this scenario) they'll ask to join or "just watch", because lesbian relationships obviously exist only for the male observer.

[@szweetsztuff]

13:19 …Have you ever heard of the phrase “Attack the idea, not the person”? They clearly haven’t.

[@SNK_LRD]

“Pokémon can’t be trans!” Marill: Hold my hyper potion.

[@dubbingsync]

Ah yes… when your bouncing mouse baby girl can become a bouncing teenage boy…. If I’m remembering which way it can go sometimes.

[@SNK_LRD]

@@dubbingsync yep. Transmasc icon.

[@thekamelotbard186]

For those not in the know because it has been fixed by now; Marill's baby form had a weird gender percentage, and was different from Marill itself, due to this you could reasonably get an Azurill that changes gender from female to male because Azurill has a 75-25 female to male ratio, while Maril had a 50-50 gender ratio. In generation 6 it was made to where a female Azurill will keep its gender when evolving into Marill, but the gender ratio of the 3 forms in the line has remained the same since Azurill's intro in gen 3

[@samuelwolch1302]

Femboy Gardevoir

[@xd._.28234]

lmao

[@alexzanderbaker4631]

I like how there was just one Karen mom that basically said all kids should be non-binary

[@user-burner]

I misread that as mom-binary somehiw

[@mazzy_ivy]

@@user-burnerlol

[@ewanohare1162]

i know right that post belongs on r/accidental ally

[@stabbycat748]

True definition of freedom of speech “The government can’t arrest you for what you say, unless it’s actively threatening or poses concern” So, your actions still have consequences, it’s just that you can’t get arrested for it That last panel was BULL

[@serpentinewolf7085]

Yesssss! No one should face legal shit but everyone around you should be able to shun you!

[@stabbycat748]

@@serpentinewolf7085 YES!

[@alexjewett7455]

Moral of the story: avoid social media like the plague.

[@gregoryclark8217]

The great thing about M&S having pronouns on badges is that they are basically the most posh large supermarket in the UK, and angry old people are going to have to see the badges. Angus from Scotrail is amazing. "Angus" was trending on UK Twitter at one point.