Sucker Punch Defense to Guillotine with Eli Knight & Shane Fazen

It was an honor to get to collaborate with Shane Fazen of FightTIPS recently in a seminar at Fit to Fight®️ in Charlotte, NC along with Ryan Hoover as well. It was also great to get to make a couple of videos with him like this one here.
This is a progression from the beginning of a defensive situation versus someone swinging a sucker punch. Shane shows a very effective strategy to cover and crash the range into clinch and I show options off the guillotine.
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[@BecauseJitsu]

This is the Power Team I've been waiting for!! Great video, guys 🙌

[@davisbarr9112]

Eli you're like * *tenth planet* * joke coming --- your ideas are just custom made for something you're on another planet ** har har it's different I wonder where the inspiration comes from I liked your deep underhook ideas and other self defense in the past. I understood what you meant too with the posture ... I've gotten out of headlocks in fights to win from behind and on top grappling and I have lost with it myself standing with the old uppercut to the junk. Ow. They say that's ineffective let me try it on you it is ineffective IN THEORY in reality that hurts badly. I don't get in a lot of spat's and instead of always those blocks I tend to connect Kung Fu to bjj and even aikido yes aikido, military style, but aikido. So I like gate blocks especially against knives I really hate the mma frame block helmet against *knives* and I have been in 7 knife fights I only got stabbed 1 superficial time and I use gate blocks. Anyway. I understand this ... Your posture here is everything and you are preventing the counter choke ... All good. If it's BJJ for a street fight I haven't seen better it's it that BJJ doesn't work ever just yours usually the best. I often try not to use BJJ to stay standing I'm no liar but I still use it a lot in fights it's just like a car having different gears.

[@davisbarr9112]

When you are switching to the 100 percent or the stocks ... The secret is to keep the space closed. Usually when the lock breaks I'm getting through to the rear or getting a shot maybe. That's an import defense actually. It's not the stocks that are doing the work though it is it's the closed space and energy. Great advice! That is tough though it's troubling if your grip starts to weaken, they have options if they control your arm. That's good I like that previously I dropped to a lower front headlock control a good option though. This is better.

[@MrEvilchukky]

Just like Grandpa and I!!!!

[@fighttips]

Learned a ton in the short time I spent with ya, Eli -- thank you again for your hospitality 🙏

[@KnightJiuJitsu]

The pleasure was all mine. I learned a ton from you too. Thanks for everything!

[@JeffreyDonovan1990]

Hi Shane and Eli i hope to collaborate with you two someday about self defense☺

[@hernanmartinez3044]

GREATEST CROSSOVER SINCE AVENGERS ENDGAME

[@KnightJiuJitsu]

Hahaha. Best comment ever!

[@ayy4028]

Ok no that's a collab I hadn't even imagined. Personally my 2 favorite fighting channels.

[@KrimPeninsula]

Eli & Shane collaborating togheter! What a treat for us. Thank you both

[@somerando35]

I never expected this crosseover, awesome

[@mmanacguy]

I don't think i have ever heard anyone speak in detail and in the most intelligent way of the techniques, that Eli Knight does.

[@KnightJiuJitsu]

That is a truly amazing compliment. I appreciate that greatly.

[@Datbaka]

the dream crossover :0

[@jessie7339jessie]

Looks like father and son

[@fighttips]

Looool

[@chadmichaels1896]

LMFAO I can see it!!!

[@KnightJiuJitsu]

@@clarkb.582- I think I would have been about 12 years old...

[@chadmichaels1896]

Was so excited to see this collaboration love both of you guys! Great information here guys especially the in depth detail. Thank you OSS!!! 🤙❤️👊

[@KnightJiuJitsu]

Thanks so much!

[@kevinmatthews9469]

Yes! More more more of this. Great team right here!

[@SamuelRiveraFilms]

Damn this was a solid technique

[@liljohnnotbigjohn]

I can attest that the elbow defense shown here works *great* I've defended with it when I was assaulted at work and I saw a young lady (15-ish) drop a guy with it in a parking lot a year later: the asshole was a lot taller, and she drove her elbow right into his chest. IDK what she hit exactly, but he collapsed and didn't get up; he just sort of stayed curled up and moaned a lot. It is awesome to see reputable people like Shane and Eli showing basic skills like this. ^_^

[@DR-ed2lz]

I feel like this can be a good basis for drilling fundamentals because of the different styles being used and the flow between them

[@FudomyoGP]

Quel plaisir de te voir collaborer avec Shane ! Super vidéo !

[@sorearm]

So awesome, thanks!

[@sauceforce9623]

Why are my two dads fighting?

[@Reachermordacai]

Nice one, Eli.

[@anthonygerber8261]

Nice collaboration gentlemen!!! It's refreshing to see martial artists with different backgrounds working together rather than trying to discredit one another! 🤙

[@KnightJiuJitsu]

That’s how I feel about it too. Too much bickering and disagreement.

[@IRONxMONKEY1203]

Awesome guys, thank you!

[@DS-te9nm]

dude thanks for these vids - keepin me from goin insane while im injured

[@viper1320]

Wow! Thank you for teaching this technique! With a ton of practice, I’ll get this. Again, thank you 🙏🏾🇨🇦

[@apekillssnake]

I like the additions to the counters!

[@bodyripped2816]

SHANE ....My MAN !!!!!

[@Chandasouk]

MAJOR COLLABORATION!

[@martialflow4566]

Awesome techniques. Standing chokes are something people sometimes forget are a possiblity in pure jiu jitsu, so a very valuable tool to have in your arsenal to catch people out 🔥.

[@christophervelez1561]

Love it. I like the blending of the ranges. train the whole art.

[@whitetiger310]

Awesome! You guys are great teachers always breaking down the moves! Cant wait for more!

[@user-hf9jx4yq2z]

Battle from standing to bottom position. Great content

[@InnerMoonTrading]

Both of you are amazing 😍 grappling King, King of tips on fighting 🔥

[@davidtice4972]

I'm teaching a seminar on grappling and self-defense November 9th and 10th 2019 and will add this to it. It's excellente!!

[@KnightJiuJitsu]

Awesome to hear that! Best of luck with the seminar!

[@rfrancoi]

BOTH are you guys ROCK!!! I watch your videos ALL the time.

[@KnightJiuJitsu]

Thank you!

[@daxisperry7644]

I love seeing some of my faorite youtubers doing collabs! This is awesome!!

[@Reachermordacai]

I remember Chewie's way of finishing a guilotine. Thumb to your shoulder. Very effective and tight.

[@theamazingjay161]

Ahhhhahahahahaha! The only two guys I follow on KZbin on a regular base working together! Awesome collaboration.

[@KnightJiuJitsu]

Thank you!

[@nike4685]

Eli your explanations are clear, concise and informative, will drill this out today with my team mate. Please show a video to defend the choke, greetings from Australia.

[@redeemedofthelord6841]

LOVE YOU SHANE 💙

[@marcusdarnell3348]

Thanks man I tried it out tonight! I got lucky I got it on the first try! Thanks so much!

[@sunrisemartialarts8965]

This is EPIC.

[@dwayneanthony7803]

Excellent video guys. I watch both channels.

[@shujiling213]

Awesome skill

[@adilbekramadan2038]

Nice video 🖒👍👌🖒

[@GUTOMOFFICIAL]

Nice collab!

[@Bighandsdown]

Yet to see a bad one. Excellent content

[@AsafMich]

Love this video Eli! You two make for a great team!

[@KnightJiuJitsu]

Thank you, bro!

[@oneguy7202]

2 great and legit martial arts you tubers together I am waiting for this, thanks

[@joshuacarson7115]

Best combative defense session today from two seasoned instructors.... but where is RYAN HOOVER?!!!

[@faideeee9306]

Damn! I have subscribed both of yours channel a long time ago. Nice to see both of you teaching together 💪🏻

[@shotguntamPvP]

I love these transitions. Awesome content!

[@robertgarrison9471]

Shane, Please be careful! Eli has been known to knock out jiu-jitsu demonstrators, take their money and steal their girls. Awesome video guys.

[@KnightJiuJitsu]

🤣🤣🤣

[@77jiujitsu]

Wow, this is an amazing stuff and thanks for sharing this, Professor Eli Knight :-)

[@libertarioyestoico2214]

MUY BUENO SALUDOS DE ARGENTINA 💪OSS

[@mr.hunter1065]

How did i not see this sooner?

[@abhisheksajwan8877]

Too good

[@michaelvick34]

Love the team up!! Two of my favorite channels :) Also, a small note on the skulls anatomical structure: there are three points on the head that are the hardest (best for striking with lowest chance of cracking the skull). These are the area just above the hairline (not the direct top of the head where the two halves of the skull meet) and the upper corners of the back of the skull (near the center of the parietal). To those reading, remember that striking with these parts of the skull does not protect you from spinal injuries if you don't have the proper structure!

[@BecozPro]

The collab martial arts youtubers have been waiting for! The fact this exists gets me so stoked! Technical question for Eli: I always have trouble finishing guillotines, particuarly when you haven't punched your arm in as deep. With the choke here, are you using the same arm to cut off both carotids, or are you using the far side arm to get the far side carotid? Any advice for finishing guillotines in general because they just never work out for me. Thanks again for the amazing collab guys!

[@KnightJiuJitsu]

It's hard to put many details in writing, but I would say that keeping your pec on the back of the neck, concentrating on that high elbow for the assisting arm, and using a scooping and compressing motion for the choking arm are key points. As for the carotid question, one arm suppresses the blood flow on both sides. The assisting arm just assists. Hope this helps.

[@shillrickvanhussler767]

I hope y'all do more stuff together. I appreciate the symbiotic effect.

[@davidtice4972]

Jeremy Bolander student of Frank Shamrock got the stocks in the UFC like you did when you do the take down from the Guillotine maintaining the other arm.

[@imwolf4851]

Most definitely hitting up the next time you guys are in Charlotte. I already have a grew raring to go.

[@imwolf4851]

That should be crew. Doggone phone typing.

[@mikeroch3791]

By the way the covering of the head defense technic and the elbow are staples of Baji Kung Fu style... it's a very old dynamic Chinese body guard style 😉

[@flintflyer575]

another awesome video that failed guillotine take down was lit,you should practice against sucker punches if you do wrist locks cos you're on the streets alone after losing all you're friends.

[@richardbrown2521]

Awesome

[@shillrickvanhussler767]

I can make every angle and approach you showed work, but I've been doing this for a minute.

[@zedgee4514]

the best defense for a sucker- punch is to never take your eyes off your opponent.

[@user-zp8sk2rc4m]

2 hot dudes who know things. It doesn't get any better than this.

[@MeerkatMotorBoards]

historic!...(and who did your intro graphics?! world class!)

[@Docinaplane]

This is a fine video for protecting yourself from a hard right hand punch. The problem is, if this was really a "sucker punch," unfortunately from my experience, I block it with my face because I did not see it coming. If I have time, I've succesfully ducked the punch to avoid the fight, or block with left arm on their forearm and my right hitting their punching shoulder to stop their power. Then I can attack with a variety of techniques, usually an elbow strike to the face if I don't want to go to the ground. After that do what you can, whatever you are comfortable with and do well.

[@cclay7263]

I appreciate the self-defense. We need more of it. Your fight stance was threatening and you are only prepared if the fighter is right handed. You also did not consider you distance. I highly recommend you review the some of Helio Gracie's techniques from his grandsons in Torrence, CA or the Valente Brothers in Florida. Please continue to bring awareness to an important aspect of jiu jitsu.

[@KnightJiuJitsu]

I have trained in Helio Gracie Jiu-Jitsu lineage under Royce for over 20 years and trained quite a bit with many members of the Gracie family in that time including The Valente brothers as well as Rener and Ryron. I am currently a 2nd degree black belt under Royce. Not sure why you’re saying I am only prepared if the person is right handed. We demonstrated this from orthodox lead, yes. And Shane clearly discusses distance when he mentions the details to covering and closing the distance.

[@cclay7263]

@@KnightJiuJitsu The constructive criticism is was directed toward Shane's sucker punch defense. The techniques IMHO are some great fighting concepts especially in MMA and valid. They didn't represent what I have trained, experienced first hand and studied in Helio Gracie's Master text. there is no doubt you both are awesome practitioners so the resume doesn't matter. Thanks to you both for sharing.

[@m5a1stuart83]

But some sucker punch attack suddenly when they are do some conversations. You need a good reflect to block and avoid that.

[@razorback1293]

Good video guys. Really appreciate you guys showing this stuff. One small thing, your groin is exposed. How would you deal with that.

[@KnightJiuJitsu]

Whose groin is exposed and when? And what are you thinking can happen as a result?

[@razorback1293]

@@KnightJiuJitsu when you are applying your choke. Your groin is in easy reach. The guy could grab, pull twist.

[@KnightJiuJitsu]

Ahhhhh, got it. So you’ve never been choked before. I promise that no one will effectively attack my groin when I put them in a guillotine. Watch any fight ever when someone uses a guillotine choke. Attacking the groin is not a real thing from there.

[@razorback1293]

@@KnightJiuJitsu yes your correct I haven't been choked. But I'm going to do some jiu jitsu. Thanks for replying

[@rvrrb]

It is hard to avoid a sucker punch. the hand is quicker than the eye! If someone is walking at you with his or her fists clenched, get your hands up in front of your mouth. they are going to clock you.

[@ironmikehallowween]

Randall Vincent yep. I have seen all these types of demonstrations suggesting that you have time to do this or that, and it may work against a slow, drunk, or clumsy, opponent. But if your Adversary is quick, it will not work. I have been a bouncer for many years and have seen this many times in real life. The best tactic if someone is moving towards you in an aggressive manner is to move laterally, dip, or slip, and deliver the counter as if the attack has already begun, because it has. Do not get hit first. Do not allow yourself to be in a position where you are relying on evasion after a punch has been thrown. It will not work.

[@nateb4543]

Or the hands at the side, look around to put you at ease then swing.

[@nateb4543]

PLEASE HELP! @8:15 if you're in a similar position but you're on your butt, he's in on your legs, get your legs outside his, you can roll him onto his back with legs in the "Saturday night ride position. It was an old wrestling move that's rarely used by anyone with a sprawl. It was pretty uncomfortable, not a submission, but you end in full mount. Does this have name? Is it a trained technique in any grappling ma? What would be the best sub from the final position? For context I've never trained any bjj, just a fan, held my own in wrestling 15 years ago

[@KnightJiuJitsu]

I’m not super familiar with the Saturday Night Ride setup from there but I do know there is a crank off it I’ve generally heard referred to as a cow catcher. I think that’s a valid position in MMA too, but rarely seen. My preference is looking for the back take over the pin most always, but all are great options.

[@GUTOMOFFICIAL]

Collab with Coach Doug next kzbin.info/www/bejne/fmjOfZKferGFl5I

[@huaxzhang]

When in clinch & you head is grabbed as shown, wouldn't it be easier to grab the groin rather than the legs?

[@brianm104]

Is this a long lost father son reunion?

[@streetwisetactics]

😲

[@davisbarr9112]

Eli you're like * *tenth planet* * joke coming --- your ideas are just custom made for something you're on another planet ** har har it's different I wonder where the inspiration comes from I liked your deep underhook ideas and other self defense in the past. I understood what you meant too with the posture ... I've gotten out of headlocks in fights to win from behind and on top grappling and I have lost with it myself standing with the old uppercut to the junk. Ow. They say that's ineffective let me try it on you it is ineffective IN THEORY in reality that hurts badly. I don't get in a lot of spat's and instead of always those blocks I tend to connect Kung Fu to bjj and even aikido yes aikido, military style, but aikido. So I like gate blocks especially against knives I really hate the mma frame block helmet against *knives* and I have been in 7 knife fights I only got stabbed 1 superficial time and I use gate blocks. Anyway. I understand this ... Your posture here is everything and you are preventing the counter choke ... All good. If it's BJJ for a street fight I haven't seen better it's it that BJJ doesn't work ever just yours usually the best. I often try not to use BJJ to stay standing I'm no liar but I still use it a lot in fights it's just like a car having different gears.

[@yagzyalcntas553]

and what if i paralyze him with the neck cracnk?

[@nateb4543]

Get a good lawyer

[@lawrencemckeon6802]

Rule number one: don’t get into a headlock. Rule number two: act quickly to get out of a head lock/guillotine choke, or nighty nighttime.

[@azimak75]

waiting for ramsey dewey to watch this ruin

[@davisbarr9112]

What Eli taught was a big deal. If you have a headlock and you're not a pro it can and will be used against you right away. The pressure keeps them from penetrating the underhook is a stocks 100 percent you can do that holding their other arm but the trick is dont allow space if they weaken your grip and control your arm - which this counters- you might have just lost they can get big advantage that close with two on one grips I always do. But Eli knows what to watch for and is going to be successful. Go to class and learn from a Pro or this will murder yes kill the opponent have s good one.

[@hasthikajayasinghe8940]

3:19 use the hard parts of yours against the soft parts of theirs?that does not sound like a headbutt

[@user-zp8sk2rc4m]

i'm sorry for the sexist comment. :|

[@zedgee4514]

you get sucker-punched when your not looking, you have no idea mate.

[@KnightJiuJitsu]

Not always true. A sucker punch is just a punch from a non-established fighting stance. It doesn’t have to be when you’re not looking and can even be recognized by physical cues preceding it.

[@zedgee4514]

so the only way not to get sucker-punched is to be aware, if you are in a confrontation then be prepared for an attack. this should be your lesson.

[@KnightJiuJitsu]

Zed Gee - That would be a pretty boring video.

[@jesusismaelpolendo5784]

If someone throws a right hand like that I would rather skip back and counter with my own. I'm a small guy so I would rather not get in grappling range.

[@TinselDoll]

Too wordy. And they say chicks yap too much. Don't say bad this, bad that, just get to the point HOW TO DO IT CORRECTLY.

[@MorsoVallanKumous]

Dont watch it then.

[@chadmichaels1896]

It's called DETAIL!!! Lol like litterally the whole conversation is educational. Pay attention to the points made.

[@chadvaughn6545]

They are explaining how to do it correctly. They have over a million subscribers combined I think they know what they are doing.