Why You Are SLOW At The Nurburgring Nordschleife

[@SuellioAlmeida]

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[@Daniel_Born_Races]

Thanks for this. Now I just have to figure out how to shave off the other 33 seconds.

[@markm2335]

brilliant!

[@Off_The_Rail]

LMAO right ? thats how i feel to as i prep for the 24H of Nurb on Iracing lmao

[@kugle1876]

just watched the video and shaved off 4 seconds on my out lap! thank you for sharing all this information.

[@CharlesJohnson-yd1yg]

As a dirt rally 2.0 guy I learned the nurburgring by predicting corners. Still 2.3 seconds off of acc in game record but I'm proud of it.

[@dashawnrobinson6436]

Crazy because some parts are uphill and hard to see the turn after

[@chonglers1513]

Rally❤️

[@notTurtll]

2.3 seconds off ACC record would be around 8:05ish - thats amazing pace! As far as I know the record is set by the M4 with a laptime off 8:02.2

[@QuantumS1ngularity]

Guys, what i would like to add to all of that, especially for the Nordschliefe, because now that it came to ACC, it basically blew in popularity is: before trying to get fast on it, first learn it slow to the point where you could visualize the entire track in your mind, corner by corner, w/o hesitation. This will free your mind from the burden of wondering "was this the corner i am thinking about or was it another corner". Just learning the track layout is probably the greatest time gain you could have on that track, simply because of how enormous it is. If you free your mind from wondering what it actually coming up and focus entirely on the incoming corner and watching for you pointers, you lap times will start to go down sooo fast. I dropped from 8.30 to 8.12 in the GT3 cars just by learning the track. It's only now that i am starting to focus on my actual lines through the corners. This one WILL take a lot of time to conquer because it's one giant behemoth of a track. Don't rush it.

[@Armageddon991]

Great advice my friend, I’m on acc using the Audi GT3 and this will help me in the long run for the big races.

[@jufejufinho]

He is not using the full track, not trail braking, turning while accelerating resulting in understeer

[@jufejufinho]

Now that I see the telemetry he was somehow trail braking but just kept adding rotation after accelerating. I learned a lot about which curves to use and which not, thanks again for another great video!

[@jufejufinho]

By the way, I know this from his course, if you are reading this, buy it, sell a wheel or something, this will actually make you faster

[@SizzlingPopcorn]

@@jufejufinhoSell a kidney 😎

[@jufejufinho]

@@SizzlingPopcorn worth it, plus weight reduction, double win

[@SizzlingPopcorn]

@@jufejufinho 🤣🤣🤣

[@dekik.979]

Late braking, slow exit. And with a lot of straits on this track he can probably find 10 more seconds. Let him drive 964 or 190 evo and he will learn to rally around this track. There r 3-4 corners on the uphill into straight. If you do those correct you can find 7" only there. Also if you accelerate uphill whit one wheel on a coloured surfice the TC will go on and slow you down

[@emre.gry01]

Finally another video after 2 weeks! Your videos are like therapy for me, I'm having so much fun and also learning new things everytime

[@davedeja]

Suellio, What a fantastic video. Understanding the idea of track usage and using what the track gives you cannot make you anything but faster. This information is priceless. You're break down of the car position through the corner makes the anaysis easy to visualize.

[@SimracingArnout]

I'm speaking for myself here. Having a little margin on corner entry makes sure I survive the lap instead of being on the absolute limit on some corner entry. But this is great content I'm jealous how you make these vids

[@derdampflok]

Yeah you always have to consider the balance between pushing for a hot lap or being safe for consistency

[@HazewinDog]

For sure, you don't want to push yourself beyond your abilities. The key is in maximizing your capabilities.

[@braveheart4603]

I think placing the car correctly on entry also contributes to a safer more consistent lap as well as being faster. It gives you more of a margin to play with and means you're asking less of the car mid corner and exit. That's how it feels to me but i'm just learning this stuff myself.

[@SimracingArnout]

@braveheart4603 so when you initially turn in And your outside rear tire somewhat smells the grass you fly off oversteer end of the story. So obviously you don't leave 2 feet left but you get the idea yeah

[@tactownturbotime982]

That’s the difference between the gods and us lol. They can put it on the line every time

Oh man.. the music is so good.. Nostagic, Stranger Things style.. lol.. Congratz, another great video. Nords is so daunting that we fear that green grass everywhere! A small mistake and boom! Wall! 8 min lost.. Getting faster is a matter of mental preparation.. Fear.. but not too much..

[@AndrewFosterSheff69]

The Green Hell defo teaches you to be thinking 3-4 corners ahead of the one you're on. As an IRL motorbike rider, the phrase we use is "to be ahead of the bike"! I love this track!

[@jester3265]

Fantastic 👏 The wealth of information you share so naturally, with the ability to convey that information cleanly. Nice one Suellio 👍

[@joao.v170r_]

ok, but that do not cancel the fact that i spin by every 3-4 corners

[@ronaldwoofer5024]

increase TC power until you can figure out the throttle for the car

[@shul5684]

You need to figure out why you spin. Me I used to spin a ton.. then I stopped entering corner as fast.. and also exiting corners with less gas. At points my braking would make me spin entering a corner. At times steering too drastic made me spin.. sometimes I would put too much gas at exits and that made me spin. I can now tell what made me spin.. you need to know what makes you spin if not you will never fix it.

[@JeyDeee89]

Progressive Breaking, Turning, and Gas. 100% Brake = 0% Turning in most cases Start turning in slow and with a constant turning speed (i'm talking only about the movement of the steering wheel inputs, not the car speed), and more turning is less braking. At the Apex you have 100% Turning and 0% Brake. Gas ist the same but backwards. Progressive on the throttle from 0% to 100%, and with 100% throttle you should be at 0% Turning (not always of course, but minimal). Take your time to 100% throttle at first, and with that you will be consistent and fast enough. After you got used to it, you can start to bring back some more "agressiveness" on the throttle but you only should use it as an on/off switch on high speeds. But instead of going from 0% to 100% in 1s you can try it in .8s and see how the grip is.

[@joao.v170r_]

@@shul5684 thanks for the support man, but this was a joke, i already know how much important is to wait for the car to take traction on throttle and etc, thanks for the tip btw

[@joao.v170r_]

@@JeyDeee89 it was a joke mate, but thanks for the tip anyway, other guys are going to learn a lot by your comment

[@m.mccormick]

He is not maximusing the track limits on entrance. Another banger video Suielluo!

[@LukesHardware]

Great video man thank you! But there's one video we all want to see...... Suellio coaches Jarno Opmeer! I can't be the only one who wants to know if and how much Jarno could learn from you!

[@SpaceKingGaming78]

I was always good at hitting that white li e when exiting the turn. I always thought my biggest problem was not entering the corner early enough, which I wasn't. But after watching this, and running a few laps, I never knew how much of the track I wasn't using. Not sure how much time I've made up but I've taking most corners a hole gear faster. Thanks for the great vid.

[@bldsprt518]

buying the book now as a thank you for putting these vids out, very helpful!

[@TonerLow]

A lot of people dont realize that the ring has turn in and corner exit indicators painted all over it, represented by small dots and hashmarks. These are depicted in a lot of sims.

[@korniuopowiada]

That's single best explanation that I saw ever! Thanks Suellio! :)

[@HazewinDog]

I didn't think this video would be nearly as good as it is. Very clear advice, and I'm going to see what I can learn from it. Haven't been on Nords in a bit :)

[@jash6105]

I’ve always known these tips and I’ve driven thousands of KM on multiple different sims of the ring but after watching today I cut 4 seconds off my lap time on assetto corsa competizione and see potential for even more improvement

[@GaryHutchins]

Love your videos Suellio. Meant constructively 👍 - all non-native English speakers, including all F1 drivers (and my French gf) say it like this. It's 'making' a mistake, not 'doing' a mistake

[@SuellioAlmeida]

Thanks! 😃

[@GaryHutchins]

@@SuellioAlmeida No worries dude. For comparison my gf tries to punch me in the face if I tell her this ! 😆

[@CaptainCrunch99]

Thank goodness for the rinse and repeat option in iR

[@yaboimyles2825]

For me when it comes to the green hell or any track that I'm on in iRacing. The biggest issue or problem that I'm having is with my pedals. My current wheel setup is a pxn V10 it comes with the pxn V10 wheel that also has paddle shifters and clutch paddles, the shifter itself, and the 3 pedals. I've since upgraded my shifter to the Logitech racing adapter with the Logitech shifter. I have also gotten a hand brake for when I want to do drifting in other racing games. But when it comes to iRacing my biggest issue is my pedals. I've noticed that when I'm driving most most cars in iRacing my braking is fine & I can break efficiently and effectively. But when it comes to the Porsche 911 992 Cup the Wheels lock up right away & in order to combat this temporarily while I save up for a load cell pedals I had to make changes to the linearity of my brake pedal in the pxn software

[@cwilson229]

Started sim racing recently and can't stop driving the 24h ring. I was getting frustrated learning the wheel/gt3 and the ring. Found the basics much easier to work on with gt4 if you're just started sim racing. I'm bad slow but getting better

[@guidofoc7057]

Thanks for the video. I am trying to figure out the Nordschleife in ACC, it seems to be narrower and bumpier than what I see here in iRacing, a lap in the Porsche 992 GT3 is rather scary. I am still in the low 8: 20s so there are 10+ seconds to shave off. I will start with optimizing track usage. Thanks!

[@ene8cho]

You could do a video of the "hardest" turns in different circuits. With racing line and defending line (inside) like Nurburgring GP T1, Monza T1/2, Imola T12/13 or 14/15, Laguna T5 or 8/8A, Brands Hatch T1, spa T12 or T16, silverstone T15, zandvoort T9, Spielberg T1 or T6-7 or T9 😅....

[@afrojo49]

Because I'm scared to run off track 😂

[@notyalc999]

This is a great video i was already faster this morning, i mainly use the mercedes 190E ans i could take some turns only lifting a little

[@DANLi_]

Video: "Why You Are SLOW At The Nurburgring Nordschleife" My Reality: "Why You Are SLOW everywhere" Really good video though!

[@one_bigly]

Wish I watched this BEFORE my race yesterday! 😂

[@Faffel]

We need a Canadian pity pricing on the motor racing check list. Just throwing it out there. You know how it is.

[@ImLehwz]

Nice video. Do you have a video on how to not crash, especially for newer people?

[@pronoob8213]

I just watched a bunch of my replays. I actually do that very well. But I always feel like Carousel is my biggest weakness. I keep falling out of it, and my exit feels terrible and slow.

[@ilzee_vk]

I think my problem is that I don't know what the grip limit really is at this track, so I tend to use middle of it a lot to have some margin of safety even though I know it's not correct.

[@louisnguyen6038]

Gonna go home and apply all these tips, hopefully i find a few seconds

[@dabz3432]

Valuable feedback as always, but when coaching to get someone to do things differently (changing their behavior), it isn't enough to highlight what they are doin (not doing), rather you have to show them HOW they could do things differently. Sooo many spend soo much time identifying what is and isn't being done. Very few have the ability to break down what is happening, then offer how to start changing...And in my experience, change (progress) for those that are lost begins by enforcing the BIG PICTURE -- not binary ques of what to do for each corner...this just adds more pressure and reinforces a myopic view that they can't handle. Best coaches usually start with examining the broader skillset. Is it his vision? His fear? His grip on his wheel? His concentration? What is this student facing, and how may you unlock his potential? The more insightful the question as a coach, the more impactful the lesson. Good luck, I love what you are doin...it's enjoyable stuff...and you got me writing ;)

[@hamzterix]

8 minutes track? More like 10.3 for me 😅

[@aroderiv3393]

I already know what is my problem on the Green Hell: sooner or later, i a point of the track, i will dnf

[@HH0ps]

“This corner is not flat” 8:42 Um excuse me what?

[@Aari_Plays]

Lets see if i can finally get the Nürburgring Nordschleife gold on gt7 track experience using this 😂

[@Darlexis]

Hi Suellio!! How do I pick what series to run? I’m A lic and got it a couple years ago running mostly TCRs, skippy and some F3. Should I send it and go GTP? Take it slow and do lmp2? Learn Porsche cup because Porsches are cool? Stick with TCRs because I actually own a fwd civic? Do open wheel because I love the feeling of the cars? I’m afraid of driving in lower license class races because I don’t want to lose SR. I’m also kinda slow 😅 I’m having a tough time assessing if I would be wasting my time doing something too easy or too hard while also trying to avoid the frustration of low lic drivers hitting me. Idk if you have time for this but I really appreciate it if you do! Thx!

[@macubasu]

Thank you.

[@kOBR4one]

Man I need this help on LeMans 😎

[@thefakejou_]

I am slow because I'm on keyboard.

[@carenthusiast6748]

cope

[@Seadog61]

7m.59s.379 my best time in a bmw4 gt3 car

[@wolfffyz]

what wheel would you reccomend?

[@LITTLEBRAT775081]

how much does track and air temp effect lap times ?

[@Kitche12]

Do the gt7/sim vr2 review already.

[@xFirelink]

nurbs 24h 9m20s team here! LOL

[@SICHTKRAFT]

Took me more than 100 laps to finally cross the 9 min mark. Feels insanely fast to me. It's a total joke in comparison to all the sim racers out there, but I am still proud to finally at least see the 8 there. Keep it going!

[@yilongli4021]

I wonder how do you move the camera around the track in racing replay?

[@Hugedevice]

Thanks for the vid, enjoying your content a lot.. just started sim racing a few weeks ago... i'm not young and have been driving for 14 years on the road as a truck driver ... i'm having trouble getting used to driving from a much lower POV and judging corner exits(usually too early throttle and a spinout) because i find myself looking at the floor and driving with my foot "lifted" isn't something i do on the road.. i've tried using the racing line in iracing to learn from it but i find myself "correcting" the whole race instead of driving.. i know my problem can probably be solved by grinding and practicing but i'm afraid to develop some bad habits.. anyone got any tips for me?

[@marksutherlandjr.2121]

Suello, I see faster drivers braking early and slowing working there way down through the gears through the turn. I find it faster n easier to break later and harder. Is one superior to the other? They are faster, but can I be that fast with oractoce using what comes naturally to me.

[@tea7923]

Question, I’ve been struggling mid corner and someone told me there’s a throttle 2 step throttle technique. Fast, then slow. Can anyone elaborate on this for me?

[@qwertykeyboardwarrior]

I have a 4070 laptop, will it work ok for now? can i get budget wheel and run it with lower graphics and have a decent experience? or should i wait until i get a desktop pc and decent wheel/ pedals and vr head set. I assume vr is out of the question until i get the desktop. i tried ps5 gt7 vr with wheel and want that experience but on pc.

[@SuellioAlmeida]

yeah that's great for iracing, should work fine!

[@qwertykeyboardwarrior]

​@@SuellioAlmeida awesome :) thank you

[@seaweedbeard]

Granny shifting, not double clutching like you should

[@chonglers1513]

My favorite track

[@Rhythmic_Hammer]

If it were KIRETH the Thumbnail would read: “I CUT THIS GUYS LAP TIME IN HALF & RBR F1 HAVE 👀 ON HIM!!” 😅😂 2 seconds? Humble much haha? I see like 8 seconds, at least, from your advice in this video. 🤷‍♂️👌

[@TheMountainTitan]

Just got my fanatec sim. How do i go about getting a session?

[@Chrisx093]

4:30 Can anyone tell me how to get input graph to work during spotting/spectating like that!? I can't seem to get ioverlay-racelabs to work! This would be so sick to be able to spectate and watch others input graphs just like this! My input graphs only work when i drive and i was told by the devs (ioverlay devs) It's not possible to get it to work during spectating\spotting! But this is showing me otherwise! Any help would be highly appreicated! I'd be more than happy to pay for an input graph like this!

[@shul5684]

I think it's the fact that he is streaming to suellio. Suellio is no spotting in-game.. that's why he can see the graph.

[@Chrisx093]

@@shul5684 I don't think so...he's clearly rewinding and going forward then using the mouse to shake and show what he is doing wrong If he was telling him rewind+fast forward that would make more sense But he isn't...he's rewinding using mouse to show what he's doing etc so he is 100% spectating or spotting and the input graph is somehow working...Need to figure out how!!

[@Jaymes27]

Pretty sure it is because he is watching a replay file that was sent to him from the other driver, spotting and spectating don't get telemetry from others

[@am_sousa2246]

I dont think gran turismo 5 is realistic, i did a 6:32 in a hks ct230r 💀

[@jacohop]

🔥

[@Ferrari255GTO]

I can tell you why: it's because i'm slow everywhere else XD

[@darrickbuckalew2489]

Granny shifting, not double clutching smh

[@brentonedwards]

If only he saw this video before he paid for coaching... Oh, nevermind.

[@Regret696]

Carrying too much speed.

[@Regret696]

Well i wasnt wrong :)

[@Catcrumbs]

Are there no ghosts to practice with in iRacing? Such basic errors in the student lap.

[@nzk300]

How is this guy 2800 IR and doesn’t know how to use the whole track? I’m stuck at 2k and getting beat by drivers that know how to use the whole track!

[@beambox1421]

how can he be 2.8k and doing this ahaha

[@SuellioAlmeida]

That's why I said "you're 2.8k, you shouldn't do this" hahaha

[@beambox1421]

@@SuellioAlmeida yeah, he must be doing other things pretty well in order to get to this rating. He must have good SR...

[@beambox1421]

Haha I just looked at his stats, he has a very high SR (A 4.36 at start of the season). the funny thing is that he lost 520 iR and 1.31 SR since the beginning of the season ahah. oh and that guy did 2176 races, that's crazy, how can he still not use all the track after so much time! WOW

[@blake5445]

I run sub 7 min so I'm good lol

[@AtomicAndi]

The Green Hell is now on a REAL simulation btw. You knew that ofc

[@Django45]

If by REAL you mean ACC, allow me to laugh out loud from the bottom of my heart. 😂

[@vangeeson]

@@Django45 ACC Main here since 4 years, iRaing since 3 weeks. Even before that i would have join you laughing. I have more fun in ACC, but the way they had to butcher the physics to make NOS work in ACC is just ridiculous.

[@AtomicAndi]

hahahaha

[@divinasi0n]

​@@vangeesonthere's nitrous in ACC..?

[@vangeeson]

@@divinasi0n Either that or it could be the abbreviation of the Nordschleife

[@jufejufinho]

First?

[@timothynichols1135]

Hey Suellio, what's ur discord...

[@institutorockaoantigo]

Bora ca raio

[@wesleycordazzo4016]

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