The ULTIMATE Nordschleife Comparison (ACC, iRacing, Gran Turismo, Forza!)

The ULTIMATE comparison with REAL LIFE and Assetto Corsa Competizione, iRacing, Gran Turismo, Forza Motorsport at the Nordschleife, big thanks to my colleague for the footage!!
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[@phippsa3]

ACC Nordschleife is absolutely amazing

[@michellemay76]

AMS2 is missing… 😢

[@d.o.5238]

so is the original AC which was the first game to get a laser-scanned version of the Green Hell

[@mickeilkeil]

AMS2, yes, but Rfactor 2 too.

[@4FiftyRacing]

It's a bit funny how you act surprised that iRacing missing new fences and stuff, when everyone knows it's an older scan. They can't run to Germany every year and rescan this massive track, of course ACC is the most accurate because they just recently scanned it

[@TheFakeIce_]

Exactly what I was thinking, I've not finished the video but it seems unfair as ACC should have no faults (except the new foxhole kerb) but I do think iracing needs a new scan as it's been around 10 years

[@thomasf9514]

@@TheFakeIce_ I'd take a rescan and happily pay for the new version over any new track out there

[@magil159]

All has been said… This video makes no sense.

[@DCFHazardRebornChannel]

That is a silly thing to say. "Acc is the most accurate because it's the latest scan"..... sorry you making an excuse for something? Yes, it's a newer scan. Yes, it's more accurate... any reason for downplaying it aside from butthurt? Its not fair to compaaaaire, bluaaaa... ok then, we wont compare. Ever. To any new rendition of a track. Funny how the same tartoids would come out of the woodwork when iRacing gets a later scan to use it as a reason to compare, "omg the iracing version is so new and amazing, derp"... we should keep this comment and say something just as stupid when this happens, "well yes because its the latest scan" .... lol. And? And yes.

[@svencsobanczy4094]

I mean the comparison as a hole makes no sense, if you try to compare 2 arcade sims with 2 real sims

[@Tacoplane91]

The Defense for iracing and other sims is that their scans are pretty old if you do this vid 10 or whenever they added nordshliefe in iracing it would be exact

[@SuperDRAY88]

It’s not a defense if they aren’t willing to update it for their customers. People are paying money so they should be updating it

[@Tacoplane91]

@@SuperDRAY88yeah just that everyone wants new content instead of updating the old ones if they don’t have any major changes because it costs a lot of money to scan it and if it’s not extremely outdated ( for example spa is one that needs a redo cause the scan is 2008 or 2009) but the Nurburgring hasn’t changed much so people on iRacing are happy with it and just want more tracks (Sorry for writing essay)

[@jondohnson8417]

In my oppinion ACC looks the most realistic. Simply amazing! In a couple of years we will probably not be able to tell if it is reality or simulation.

[@l337g0g0]

ACC: for track markers. ACC: for sun shafts, shadows, light changing with sun angles (Shaders). Forza: trees looks. I Racing: road looks. ACC close second. Iracing also has the trees good and it looks autumn(ish), like the start of fall, I really like that track look. One penalty is ACC should have no tents on low population races, and that many tents for big events. ACC, I'm surprised, this games on sale on steam and I have so many racers so i was should I buy it? this video just sold it. I really liked IRacer also, but ACC shaders, sun shafts, shadows and road and accuracy is so surprising. I I have 600+ hours in GT7 and love it, but this just gave me tons of contrast in all these games, thank you for the video, great work.

[@fred420]

I don't get why you hate the festival vibe in FMS.. It adds some personality to the races and makes them more interesting to me at least..

[@LorenzoClara97]

Because it is unrealistic in many places

[@nihilityjoey]

​@@LorenzoClara97This is actually quite wrong. With the exception of the flags (which I think are there to help with breaking) the activity happens where it's supposed to happen. I just find it strange that people complain there is too much. But it all happens where it's supposed to happen in the track boundaries.

[@TheCommentator112]

​@@nihilityjoeyhave you even been there IRL?

[@nihilityjoey]

​@@TheCommentator112You are missing the point. SIM or not, it's a game. And having more people there isn't breaking any rules. Even ACC has more than GT and I racing.

[@ThatLoudLad]

@@nihilityjoey Because ACC is literally mimicking last years 24hr race

[@mclane78]

Thank you for this comparison, but can you campare the nos between iracing/rf2/ams2 and acc? I think this 4 Sims has the most accurate laserscan. But, of course we know from different years. Iracing nos is 10 years old, factor2 has a 2019 scan and ams2's scan is from 2020. It could be interesting to see the comparison to the newest acc version.! I'm from Germany and of course I have all these Sims and nos tracks. Best track ever, in my opinion.

[@afrotonder]

Excellent vid! I absolutely love nordscheleife. As a complete noob, racing in it over and over have def helped me get better at curves. Cant be afraid to abuse those limits! 🔥

[@danieldavidossa]

I think the most important part is the physics and how cars react to certain bumps and corners how it looks is really the last thing I’m concerned with when I’m in a “simulator” it matter more how it feels and the feedback I get to my steering wheel

[@ChroniclesofKToyoda]

Physics matter most sure, 100%, but visual accuracy does also matter if you're using it for track knowledge, which IRL is the most important thing for fastest lap times, so games/sims should strive for both

[@ImLehwz]

Which sim do you prefer?

[@AlienWooshie]

Knowing when they were scanned, and introduced. You'd expect ACC to be the most accurate today because that was the latest one to be introduced. I wouldn't be surprised if it's on the list for a refresh, along with Spa and a few others.

[@MRD0889]

Spa on ACC is so far my favorite.

[@MRD0889]

For the amount of detail that went into ACC and how it drives =) I paid for that DLC and did not regret it 😅

[@kingsaka5042]

that first speaker pole does absolutely nothing in taht section of the track in terms of a brake marker xD

[@rafawroblewski8472]

Hey. Next time before you do this kind of comparision make sure to set proper FOV in each game. ACC on this vid has much lower FOV then real life footage and other games so everything is looking too big and too close, also distance between guardrails and track is looking bigger because of that.

[@samsantana]

Considering Turn 10 has never claimed Forza to be a sim, it stacks up well against, although falling short of, true sims like ACC and iRacing. GT on the other hand falls well short of the others considering it's always claimed to be a real driving sim. The very fact most sim channels continue to mention Forza when looking at or comparing 'sims' is an indication that it has in fact surpassed its proposition as a 'racing game' at least in the context of driving dynamics and realism. Gt on the other hand falls short of its claim yet excels a 'racing game'. I'm lucky enough to be able to play all these titles and there's something great about each of them the others lack so personally I don't think there is a 'best' but just great options for whatever is important to each person.

[@coy9958]

Forza looks very good. Funny how people keep saying how bad Forza version is just to find out all the inconsistencies in other titles as well. From the start already biased towards Forza. Biased conlusion, even the game is paused Forza is at speed making it blurry. Camera angles could be deceiving a well.

[@GinolasVideos]

The curbs are just wrong in Forza, having driven all of them, and done a lot of laps in real life I can confirm Forza is way of the mark.

[@coy9958]

@@GinolasVideos sure. The point is there are inconsistencies in other titles as well. Why did the other titles not get nitpick before Forza version arrived, clearly there is bias. Funny how people act surprised with the comparisons, thinking that Forza is the only game that has issues.

[@AlexandreAlex-o4g]

It's funny to see fanatics badmouthing game X or Y, when they're all brutally wrong.

[@josecolon4071]

Where's Automobilista 2??

[@marksutherlandjr.2121]

No one really recognizes it yet. It's fkn GREAT though!

[@MUCKLEECH]

@@marksutherlandjr.2121 If they swapped FM for AMS2, it would have been a closer comparison IMO

[@bartjaspers757]

The RF2 version is also very good. I miss it in this comparison.

[@antmax]

GT7 looks the worst with oversaturated colors. Forza looks pretty good, ACC probably best of all and has the best feeling FFB for communicating the road. iRacing looks like a good all rounder despite the ancient render engine. Amazing how carried away some people got with the Graphiti on the track lol.

[@ltrace8651]

Are you blind?

[@ildskimi]

Did you even watch the video ? ACC, GT7 are decent. Iracing and Forza need lot of work. Though Iracing kerbs are super relastic. Forza need to reedo all the kerbs pretty much, trees look greyish and the surronding also does not represent real life. Iracing too decided to do their own surronding for some reason.

[@luccasamorim3167]

@2:36 you say FM adds a curb that doesn’t exist but so does GT7

[@andreasmoller9798]

Wrong, gt7 is accurate, fm has the worst nurburgring in simracing

[@deathtrooper2048]

It's not, you can literally see in the video that GT7 added a curb.​@@andreasmoller9798

[@coy9958]

@@andreasmoller9798 such a fanboy comment. Gt7 accurate? Did you even watch the video?

[@JesappelleFREDO]

​@@coy9958Désolé il l'a entièrement raison

[@andreasmoller9798]

@@coy9958 fm is the most inaccurate nurburgring ever featured in any modern track racing game. Gt7 destroys fm in terms of details. Fm cant even get their cars to look right or accurate.

[@kyleeaster1214]

ACC wins hands down, it's not even close.

[@lizardmanstlargoinan8906]

I've never experienced ACC I racing and forza versions yet but GT7 you definitely feel the the hills while in the in car view

[@jw2722]

you need to try ACC

[@lizardmanstlargoinan8906]

I'm waiting for console's to bring it don't have PC I'll have to wait for PlayStation

[@LXR88TY]

You should have started with the time of all the scan. Iracing is the oldest, the gt7 is from before release of gt sport so before 2016 and acc an fm are the most recent

[@ColanCox]

I think they all do a pretty good job. Very impressive.

[@Nicsos123]

Instead of FMS and GT you could have compared it with rf2 and am2, but ok, good job anyway

[@lsi01]

Be interesting to see if FM updates the kerbs like they did with the pit exit for the Daytona track. Maybe update 8 or 9?

[@boziewz6125]

In terms of colour realism, hands down forza wins, iracing comes close and ties with gt7, and sadly acc seems to saturated. But in terms of graphics, iracing and gt7 are on par yet again, forza I'm on the fence, at times is almost perfect (for a game) but seems then sometimes looks weird but I can point out what it is. Where as acc hands down wins this section, it just looks great. Overall though, I really can't say which I truly prefer. But if I really could only use one for the rest of my life, it would possibly be acc. This has now solidified my compulsive thoughts to complete my acc dlcs

[@jw2722]

desaturated and washed out does not = realism

[@peter91d]

Forza colours are way off, looks nothing like the real footage. ACC and gt7 look the most accurate

[@boziewz6125]

We all have different eyes guy, this is what mine see

[@Racingfan101]

​@@peter91d compared to a camera recording nothing comes close to GT7. However what your real eyes see, in my own opinion too forza motorsport comes closer in right conditions. Sometimes also very bad depending on the conditions.

[@nihilityjoey]

​@@Racingfan101No. Just no. GT does not look the best, at all.

[@JuliuszBaczynski]

Is forza the only simcade that isn’t laserscanned?

[@ireneexvia]

GT7 graphics looks smooth realism

[@jthompson6189]

I can play the track in GT7 in VR on ky console without needing a gaming PC, that makes it an auto win for me

[@guntharnzl5940]

Why not AMS2?

[@mickeilkeil]

and RF2 and Iracing

[@memerogers2638]

Your conclusion was biased. You didn't even bother to properly sync the clips. Esp. at the end. You ONLY sync'd ACC at the end to your exit footage, as if to reinforce the placebo interpretation it would naturally cause by being mistimed. Perhaps it was an unintended over sight. The editors slip-tool to adjust clips in video (sync in) montages is easily ACCessible before final compression. Perhaps You'd consider a proper re-upload with better sync'd clips, over your already fine commentary, to help support your claims. Unfortunately, i could not conclude ACC was better due to this. Other than that, nice footage!

[@coxyofnewp]

its Obvious by the end of 1st corner which one is best !!! I think that I racing so out of date on a lot of it tracks, and considering how much it cost OVER and OVER ! they need to either change their price model or release II Racing ;)

[@bit-eki]

The ams2 version?

[@jensweber7106]

ACC must be better than iRacing. It where a shame if it wasn't. Its a much newer scan and version. Hopefully, they rescan the NOS in iracing soon. Or they update the details. Good comparison. Thanks!

[@Crumpetscranner]

Iracing has somethings missing: it's fine GT7 has somethings missing :simcade lol Funny how some people jump to conclusions like that

[@Spartan195X]

Where is rfactor2?

[@MrSanJose420]

Great post good shit. I love sim racing and prefer iracing all day.

[@johngoldberg2572]

Ok so they all have parts where there good and bad, Looks is one thing the real test which more arcuate to drive vrs real life.

[@Mathewtheracer]

I have to say , Kunos simulazioni did a very good job!

[@19popo87]

i like how FM7 use vegetation like bushes ecc, looks pretty good.

[@dathyr1]

Wel it is a no brainer for me - l I only have the ACC game, so the Nord track in ACC is the best for me, period. Why should I even watch the video if I don't have the other games. I don't do IRacing, Forza, or Gran Turismo games because of either cost, subscriptions, or don't have any console systems. I don't have the ACC Nord track yet, but waiting for a sale price on STEAM when it becomes available. Enjoy all the other ACC tracks and cars. I have watched allot of You Tube videos of races with the ACC Nord track and looks great. Take care.

[@lilithlianshi2094]

Glad you didnt put Ride 5 version of this track, because the accuracy of thia track on that game are the worst even on the previous Ride game.

[@vinen]

I have all steam racing games with Nordschleife present. It's 14 games.

[@vinen]

Without iRacing since I play on my Steam Deck only

[@cobbomusic]

acc has the latest scan

[@EldonRowDragon]

May I ask, which simracing game has the best teaching part? 'Cause I play GT7, but those license tests and demo runs are far from teaching. :)

[@Kireth]

Keep an eye on something I am launching imminently on my site www.simracenews.com 🙃

[@terrylu4894]

gt7 is already the best to start. if you play acc first you will be lost 😂 You should read the description before you drive, I think it's quite informative. If you want to start ACC, I highly recommend the TLDR playlist from the KZbin Channel Aris.Drives. It covers the topics from the very basics the the advanced driving and tuning techniques, and explains the physics behind them. And they're also easy to follow!😁

[@rogerdiz3520]

​@terrylu4894 as someone who does acc mostly, I couldn't agree more... gt7 and forza are where you get your feet wet, acc and iracing are both straight out sims and will most likely frustrate beginners. That said, all of them do have the option to put down an 'ideal line' to help if you need it, just the 2 simcade titles have much more forgiving driving physics models. I'd only recommend acc and iracing to those with experience, and iracing only to those with a very fat wallet.

[@lv407]

​@@rogerdiz3520 my real cars never frustrate me!🤔😂

[@rogerdiz3520]

Forgot to add... and this is ACC specific, you'll really only get the most out of ACC by joining groups on discord, who have a rule set you can live with as the single player experience is limited as is the AI, and the multi-player open lobbies can have some really bad driving standards.

[@victorlgcarvalho]

ACC wins hands down.

[@macmagic21]

it's a bit of a joke comparing scans that are probably 10+ years appart from each other. A lot of the track's ben repaved the past years as well

[@Ghofy]

Insane

[@enthusiagt]

NordschleifE! E! E! There is an E at the end of NordschleifE!

[@cat_caster]

this games are about driving, not graphics

[@cr1pton1c]

bruh iracing's scan is like extremly old sadly

[@marksutherlandjr.2121]

Just depends on what it is yoir looking for in a game. If you want the Prettiest picture Go GT7. If you want the most realistic physics and stiffest competition in the world? Go iRacing. All the others are somewhere between those two options. Work it out. But those are the two best at what they do. Pretty & Realistic

[@Scott-jg1it]

pretty unfair comparison when ACC is literally brand new and iRacing scan is years years old.

[@spybaz]

AMS2 is the best FFS

[@m1northreat]

acc is the most recent scan

[@nihilityjoey]

Good video there. ACC and forza both look better and more accurate than the other two. Especially gts 2d rotaing trees following your car along the track. Gt and i racing aremt bad at all, they just arent in the same league. And forzas improved physics make it great to drive on a wheel and pedals. And i really like the atmosphere of the tracks in Forza. Whilst being sims, they are games as well. Even ACC had the activity going on. I feel its adds to the atmosphere. Again good comparison video here.

[@jeremyjames8678]

ACC for the win!

[@andrewwright.]

acc ftw all day.

[@euphoreonz]

forza needs some damn colour

[@martemontero3676]

forza motosport is a joke even on there car models they look too plasticky, terms of car details GT7 is #1 and 2nd is ACC, track details ACC is more detailed 2nd is GT7

[@tedmalmgren3464]

I get the feeling that most people are favoring Forza here. But what about the flat curbs? I think it’s really important

[@bratosin1]

I still cannot understand why they choose to make a brand new look of the tracks , i love when the curbes are beaten up like in the real life , in acc all the track is clean clean like brand new track , to me thos skids and dust add so much realism

[@Robin_S78]

The track has been resurfaced in real life.

[@GinolasVideos]

They also re-paint the curbs the week before N24 every year..

[@tatooin1700]

bikes should be banned from nordschleife

[@Liquorpuss]

remember back in the day when forza would talk about scanning al the tracks in real life? lol

[@lv407]

Nice try with all this fancy collages but GT version is still the best version in terms of proportions and road surface shape. But above all it drives like the real thing!😉

[@Kireth]

The Real Driving Simulator

[@OrthodoxZack]

Looks like Forza WASN'T built from the ground up

[@JesappelleFREDO]

1.GT7💙 2.ACC💙 3.Iracing💙 4.FM8 💩

[@milchkaffee3914]

have you ever played the new FM? GT7 feels like Arcade against Forza, it's much more realistic than People think

[@Fxrt1]

nord in forza is a joke

[@milchkaffee3914]

why is it a joke? so you can say nord in GT7 is Comic-like Clean and far from reality and nord in ACC is lastGen Graphics ugly and and ......

[@andreasmoller9798]

Fm is the least accurate, the other 3 is much closer to reallife

[@Kireth]

Potential L for Forza

[@FedericoFroebel-dw4je]

False. GT7 has several critical mistakes. Missing fences and houses. And let's not even start with the horrendous jpg flat trees.

[@andreasmoller9798]

Fm is last of all 4 their no question about that

[@ltrace8651]

I cannot believe my eyes how people are defending forza 💀💀💀💀

[@coy9958]

Probably you're blind😂😂😂

[@milchkaffee3914]

probably you just should play FM and you`ll be enlightened. I have GT7 ACC and FM, and I got a 992 Carrera S, I drove it three times on the Norschleife and I really dig the Driving Physics in FM. GT7 feels like Arcade against FM

[@ltrace8651]

@@milchkaffee3914 L-O-L

[@MikeDarknutNiccum]

Iracing is the only actual sim on your list. ACC is pretty but is not a sim just like the 2 console games

[@ediliosdd]

FanBoy!

[@dazonyt8094]

Considering when iRacing scanned Nords, it stands up well. ACC should be on the mark seeing as it likely the most recent scan of the track. Where were the rFactor2, AMS2 and Raceroom versions?

[@marksutherlandjr.2121]

iRacing stands up also because it's the largest community in the world. It's the CLEAR AUTHORITY when it comes to world of SIM.

[@rogerdiz3520]

As someone who drives ACC mainly, i'm very impressed with all of them. My guess is iracing is a much older scan, and the speaker towers weren't there when it was done, but it still holds up really well. It has a lot more and in your face graffiti, but again that's probably just what time has done to it. ACC has mostly nailed it, though one of the hills off track looked off... and since it is the latest scan, they should have nailed it. Anyway, my order... ACC, iracing, gt7, forza (because of the curbing which affects racing more than the details), though all of them are quite worthy. You really should have included AMS2 too, though...

[@ImLehwz]

I think ACC is the 2023 version

[@BA-rh5hy]

It's not an ultimate comparison when your are missing AMS2. it's subjectively one of the best titles available.

[@RawiioliExtras]

not to mention Race Room xD

[@BA-rh5hy]

@@RawiioliExtras thank you.. couldn't remember on the top of my head if it was race room or rfactor

[@sofaking1180]

I don't think you have the camera set as low in gt7 as you do in the other versions. Maybe try again but go with the bumper camera, or something similarly lower. Also, I think gt7 nails the trees far better than any other version. Next to the actual track itself, the trees I think go the farthest towards getting the feel of the real life track.

[@charlie.12653]

just buyed nordschleife in ACC. And after 2 Laps I already know its the best dlc I‘ve spend my money on. Simply Amazing

[@TACJHON_]

I dont mind them being outdated i just want it to look accurate at how the car behaves through the bumps and jumps

[@Kireth]

Yep have a look in this video 🙌🙌

[@Sallamista]

Assetto Corsa 2013 with Content Manager and Custom Shader Patch 👌

[@RickieDunsworth]

Love it mate, Thanks for you VERY Detailed Video as you did a Fantastic job having 12,000+ lap's on Assetto Corsa I am a BIG FAN of Nordschleife. It's Not perfect but is the BEST I've seen yet for a SIM game. Take care and Thanks again, "Subscribed!!!"

[@Kireth]

Thanks man very much appreciated!

[@GeekFurious]

I practiced for ACC via Forza and I think the two are close enough that it was possible, despite the different physics.

[@Julserson]

Nice job! Thanks!

[@Kireth]

Thanks man!!

[@zildjianzz]

Forza looks the best out of the lot, but ACC has the most accurate version. Another great video, kudos.

[@Kireth]

Cheeky dub for Forza on graphics?

[@Antidepressiva1980]

@@Kireth delusional, ikr

[@jw2722]

Lmao

[@TruRipsta]

I agree, Forza has a much more natural color pallet. The others have way too much contrast and exposure...GT7 looks too clean also, no real life imperfections.

[@nihilityjoey]

@@TruRipsta Yup. When you watch the clips, what one make you look twice the most, thinking it was real? its forza.

[@Rezar_racing]

Every game has it soul i go with forza if they continue to make better sound, race warning flags, better penalty system night rivals and we could go on and on 😂

[@Pandomar1]

ams2 and rf2 missing, latter is the best I have experienced

[@Johnny_Thunder]

Forza has the most realistic lighting by far, it actually looks like real life. Iracing looks stale in comparison and ACC looks over saturated and gamey.

[@YawAppiagyei-q8h]

Looks like the Forza version isn't so bad after all

[@MUCKLEECH]

...Did we watch the same video?

[@Johnny_Thunder]

forza has the most realistic lighting.

[@andreasmoller9798]

@@Johnny_Thunderit dosent, gt7 has superior lighting

[@ChroniclesofKToyoda]

@@andreasmoller9798 I noticed the other day how the dark areas such as the footwells in shadow still get realistically darker going under bridges & such, that's ignoring realistic eye adaptation. PD's lighting even as a crossGen title truly is a marvel!

[@gamersplaygroundliquidm3th526]

Yeah looked pretty good

[@BillyBombastic]

can we just have blackened kerbs

[@youuuuuuuuuuutube]

10:55 "If you love the graffiti ..." => it's not about if I love it or not, I want the track to be like in real life. If there is no graffiti on a particular spot, then I don't want one added.

[@PaulTheFox1988]

For me personally it's acc by a country mile, then gt7, followed very closely by iracing, and finally forza. The downside with acc for me is that it's paid dlc, whereas gt7 and forza it's included in the base game and that accessibility makes it better for more players, but cost aside there's no doubt acc got it nearly perfect, and the fact they can charge for it means they had to put in much more effort to make it worth the asking price Forza tries to make the course feel more exciting and festival-like, but the green hell is exciting enough on its own and doesn't need more pizazz. Imo forza should have put more effort into making it mirror the real course more accurately instead of masking its deficiencies with unnecessary trackside fluff

[@bratosin1]

People make fun about fm8 but actually has better ffb than acc and i have 350 hours on acc and 150 hours on fm8 , acc has better physics, graphics and sound , but forza has better ffb i feel way more connected to the car , better cars , a lot of amazing cars , better tracks , le mans , road america. Virginia , I'm playing on xbox series x , I've heard pc version of acc has different ffb to me honest

[@domd9578]

rF2 version was one of the strongest in sim racing - best to benchmark that

[@sermerlin1]

ACC Nordschleife is the most accurate virtual track up to date. There's no doubt about it... Because it is the latest version of the IRL Nordschleife. They did scans with all of the latest implementations on IRL track that have been done in 2023. GT7 is probably very accurate but to the very old now version of IRL track that was a decade ago if not more. We need to see when Polyphony is determined to update Nurburgring to its latest version. I'm sure they polished up nurburgring with each version of the game in terms of lighting, visuals, track physics, textures etc but still keeping that original scan layout.

[@nxgti3562]

GT 7 has the 2017 version :)

[@jw2722]

ACC gave it the heart and soul it has in real life

[@Howlingbrown]

The thing for me is, I'm new to this track. Absolutely loving forza version. iracing looks great, gt looks as good as always and acc nailed it. Gt next on the list. I have no complaints

[@Fearlessphil100]

I started sim racing on AC and learnt the Nordschleife there. Of course I also got ACC and it's version is fantastic. However ACC is limited to GT style cars and while AC modded is good, it is getting dated. I have a PC and only FM as a console port is available to me(would like if they did a port of GT7 so I could try it before making a verdict on it). So to fill a void in the meantime I also got Forza Motorsport, and while driving physics are more forgiving in a simcade, I still enjoy the Nordschleife in FM and in general the layout not so much the detail, is sufficient enough to not break the experience for me. So knowing how Kunos strive for excellence I am really looking forward to AC EVO, especially as I learnt that they are going for an in house engine(not that ACC in Unreal engine is bad, but my guess is Kunos saw limitations with regards to physics modeling). So hopefully we get the best of all worlds, that is Physics/Visuals/Day-Night Cycles/Weather and track conditions/Cars and Track selection(and if you race online, then multiplayer functionality also).🤞 I believe that I read an article a long time ago before ACC came out, that interviewed Kunos and they said ACC was part of the RD process for the spiritual successor to AC. Not long to wait now yay, and it will be interesting to see how the conversation changes then.😊

[@tonganfisherman]

Silly question, why are there some many differences between all of these games? Are they all not using laser scans of the track?

[@wdowa94]

Track is different every year

[@Robin_S78]

@@wdowa94Only ACC and iRacing use laser technology.

[@KiroteHikari]

@@Robin_S78Polyphony also uses laser scanning, they've been doing it since GT4

[@DCFHazardRebornChannel]

​@@KiroteHikarinot for the tracks I don't think at the time, don't know if they use for tracks too now.

[@DCFHazardRebornChannel]

A laser scan is not complete, you need to still model it and do a lot of retopology, also a laser scan does not just do the whole track, they need to piece it together, so you lose some details such as elevations etc and need to have more data than just laser scanning. Then there is extra data on road grip etc, what kind of asphalt is on each piece etc, track is also different from year to year but last of all some changes I argue are deliberate so that to compensate for accessibility, like FM dumbing down the curbs. Also, they scan the track, as in the road part, a lot of the backgrounds or walls and other assets are built for each game, that is why we also see such a difference in the surrounding which arguably should change less, different hills etc. On one shot compared to real life it was evident GT7 had the better hills along with fm and iracing and acc missed out and looked wrong there. These parts are from references not actual scans. So yeah many reasons behind it. A scan is not just a single shot that is ready and there are also different scanning methods and technologies

[@HaikalAdisti19]

your speaking style like motorsport commentator

[@YourComputerProf]

1 month later Verstappen's 24h is on iRacing ...

[@mrmando69]

ACC by far the best. I Racing by far the worst.

[@no1computerrepairguy]

iRacing is the bar a far as I'm concerned. VR ftw.