Suicide Squad: Kill the Justice League - Before You Buy

Suicide Squad: Kill the Justice League (PC, PS5, Xbox Series X/S) is the latest superhero adventure from the creators of the Batman Arkham Games. How is it? Let's talk.
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[@tomaskelley2658]

"They plan to add more." Thats the problem with games now a days. Updates shouldn't be something I have to wait for to make the game feel complete.

[@SeriousDragonify]

It's better to wait for Complete Edition and on 85% sale.

[@GothamThotSlayer]

It's crazy how a game like No Man's Sky has an insane amount of updates. But people don't even know sometimes cuz they lost interest ever since it first launched. The game was basically unfinished lol

[@Jimboishere11]

Amen✌🏻

[@1wingedangel954]

@@SeriousDragonifyand I will still feel scammed, this game is built like a mobile game 😂

[@DecanFrost]

correct, by then we're already done with the game, uninstalled and moved on. I can't remember a single game, besides MMO games, were i returned after long breaks.

[@damienletner5499]

I'd love for Jake and falcon to do a "how does it hold up?" Series. I know they've done lists like this or occasionally do a "1 or 2 years later" but I mean 10-20 minutes video dedicated to one game, something 20 years+ old. Give some attention to old games people don't talk about anymore.

[@HighFive212]

Great idea!

[@chrisdakers3688]

This is definitely a great idea. Would love to see that.

[@myalienssuicide]

Yes!

[@Jorge-jr7kk]

That would be awesome, I agree

[@soulvz]

I'm glad they were able to see this, good idea dude this would be dope

[@metak9academy]

I don't get why they wouldn't mix melee and gun play based on the character. Why is a walking shark focused on using guns?

[@sinkaido]

That’s like so true tho thinking abt it. Would’ve made team based combat a lot more interesting and varied, like wanting to pick king shark for melee mayhem, Harley or captain boomerang as mixups of the two styles, and deadshot for pure shooter goodness

[@metak9academy]

@@sinkaido exactly what I was thinking. So many missed opportunities.

[@cybertramon0012]

King Shark could have a weaker/no shield in exchange for having a larger health bar and regeneration. You can pull enemies towards you or you to enemies using the hook, and melee attacks can regain health. Encourage a brawling, get-in-the-thick-of-it style. Deadshot would be more about precision. You get rapid-fire from the hip, while aiming with iron sights slows your rate of fire in exchange for more critical damage on weak points. You also have a shrinking reticle that the smaller it gets, the more powerful the shot. One skill could be auto-hit no matter how off your aim is, while another is a charged heavy-damage shot. Captain Boomerang can use an infinite supply of boomerangs to hit multiple targets, or the same target several times, at the cost of reduced individual damage. His boomerang skills could be all about elemental effects with a guaranteed chance to trigger, or a multi-strike that stuns an enemy for the duration of the attack. And Harley Quinn will be the mixed class. She can do melee damage with her hammer or bat, but not as much as Shark. She can use precision shots, but won’t do as much damage as Deadshot. And she has traps and explosives with elemental effects, but they need to used at a closer range. And that’s how I’d do them to retain a unique identity.

[@DecimoGaming]

Well you can make his skill tree focus on melee attacks, whatever you wanna build

[@mokhan5830]

He literally does

[@kidfloat]

If you squint all the game footage just looks like Ratchet & Clank

[@bars9112]

Nope Ratchet and Clank is a good game...

[@Kanoog]

Don't do Ratchet & Clank like that, that show cases next gen technology incredibly well.

[@michaelmonstar4276]

It's just Fornite with a skin.

[@BWeezie405]

@@michaelmonstar4276ouch, that actually hurt me to read this. You are comparing Fortnite to a great game, c’mon bro 😢 lol jk jk

[@BWeezie405]

@@michaelmonstar4276ratchet and clank, not this video we are watching. This game looks horrid.

[@ChadwickBasedman]

The reality is that the Arkhamverse ended with Knight.

[@cenciende9401]

And what a low note to end on, the only bad game in the series... so empty and lifeless and boring, as a huge fan of the first 3 I had to force myself to finish Knight

[@ChadwickBasedman]

@@cenciende9401 I do agree that it wasn’t as hard hitting as the previous Arkham games, although I personally enjoyed it when it came out. I don’t mind the free roam every now and then, especially when you’re playing with mods

[@shalindelta7]

​@@cenciende9401literally how i feel about Origins.

[@spike5499]

@@shalindelta7 lol that's how I felt about both Origins and Knight. Man making over a third of the game take place in a fucking tank was certainly a choice

[@dimkacracker]

braindead take. Arkham Knight literally makes u feel like batman.@@cenciende9401

[@1507jrow]

“Maybe I’m a dying breed of gamer” Not at all. You’re a gamer with standards that’s completely honest when we need it. That’s why we enjoy y’all channel.

[@LunarKn1ght]

Still a dying breed, most gamers just consume, complain, consume again.

[@Chrisscreases2]

@@LunarKn1ghtback in my day we used to call those nutjobs.

[@Dedition]

Maybe it's just me but the reason I stopped watching Gameranx is because he's the most fence-sitter review I've ever seen. His opinions are always the most inoffensive, middle-ground opinions. I respect it as that means he's got content for everyone. But that's also why I can't watch him.

[@markarbanasin4]

I also appreciate that this wasn't just a gripe fest for 15 minutes to capitalize on the hype. I had no interest in this game but given the negative reviews was curious to see what it was about. I appreciate that the good or somewhat interesting design choices were highlighted and discussed along with the bad.

[@SpikeTheWolf]

Casual gamer?

[@johnathanross6519]

They should have made a Batman vs. the Justice League with Batman using his contingency plans to stop and save his friends. It would have been awesome and a much better send-off to Kevin's Batman. RIP.

[@xxxxMondaysxxxx]

yeah just not a looter shooter which NOBODY wants.

[@austinjames1732]

That’s what I’ve been saying

[@malachiolmstead]

It's this whole female lead hype shit (not that female leads are a bad thing it is when it's forced, tho) mixed with this weird suicide squad push that's been happening for like 5-7 years now

[@mariotroia4499]

Damn I didnt see your post I just write that its should've been Arkham Justice..Batman and the family vs the league with the plans

[@TheOstrichOrginization]

Just as long as it’s not a looter shooter

[@godofguns2434]

I can't help but to feel like Aquaman was straight up forgotten.

[@ralfnissan1]

and the martian

[@godofguns2434]

@@ralfnissan1 to be fair, if Martian Manhunter was under braniac's control it's wraps for the suicide squad

[@urielnascimento3567]

To be fair, if any of them went REALLY ALL OUT the suicide squad would last seconds if that

[@hassangames9134]

And shazam too

[@sharkbyte1565]

​@@godofguns2434this statement literally applies to every single one of the justice league members including the one you fight in this game

[@jasterblack]

This should not have taken the live service route. They should have dedicated those resources to fleshing out the Justice League

[@WaffleKrushaTTV]

Agreed

[@Based_Comment]

But then they cant get the morons who spend $100 on skins in Call of Duty to throw someof that cash their way.

[@MikeSandersonVideos]

But corporate greed.

[@SpliffyHusk]

@@MikeSandersonVideosrocksteady wanted this

[@Shoelessjoe78]

That screen is insanely busy... Vomiting information you don't really need on screen at all times.

[@seatown109]

and you can turn it off

[@ArcanePath360]

It looks like it was made by 9 year olds. Looks like puke

[@danielg5094]

​@seatown109 bro didnt watch the video he just yapping 😂

[@999outsider]

When your playing it’s really not that distracting but you can turn it off

[@Efrencit017]

You turn it off at least

[@dagewastaken7236]

Rocksteady made the BEST combat in modern video game history, which was adapted by the likes of Sony's Spider-Man, WB's Mordor games, and many others, and they squandered by replacing it with a shooter. Great work, Rocksteady. Holy fuck.

[@jakegray9269]

At the 37 second mark, I just had to pause this to go find find the Before You Buy for Arkham Knight

[@AceRazor]

You know when I played Ghost of Tsushima I thought to myself, "this cinematic presentation with minimal UI is the future". I see RS went the exact opposite direction.😮

[@hefoxed]

Interesting that ghosts of tsunami is a game set in Japan done by a American study iirc. There's this interesting video essay + reply essey why Asian/Japanese websites tend to contain a lot of information presented densly vs American ones tend to be more minimal/less cluttered. The KZbinr in the reply video showed studies around brain function, Asian tend to process information in a way that they can handle all that information better. (Original video was answers in progress, I forget who made the reply video). So, I wonder if ghosts of tsunami would have such a minimal layout if it'd been developed in Japan, if this design differences/information handling different can been seen in game uis, and if SS UI team and testers makeup tender more towards those that prefer the 'cluttered' design. I much prefer the minimal design, but that's how my brain handles it. Being able to configure UI settings is great to allow people to choose what's best for them.

[@davidpilger4136]

But there’s also games like Elden ring with very minimal hud made by eastern studios. I really don’t think it’s east vs west here, there’s examples and exceptions from both sides. It certainly doesn’t have to do with eastern people processing info better/faster, or you could say that it’s actually because western people comprehend and retain info better, so there is no need for additional UI or HUD.

[@downtowntrain2319]

@@hefoxed lol brain function does not differ between ethnicities.

[@7Anakin7]

@@hefoxed Ghost of Tsunami?😆

[@krymsun3134]

Ghost of tsushima doesnt have a "minimalist ui" It has no ui at all. You have a health bar, sure. You also have a stance bar- but you dont have to look at it all. They made no ui because they wanted you to look at the beautiful world they made and immerrse yourself in it.@@hefoxed

[@jrg3940]

Batman vs the Justice League would be a better story, being his first re-emergence since Arkham Knight, plus a better farewell to Kevin Conroy

[@hishquten4613]

Or even nightfall Batman vs them. That would be cool to see from rocksteady

[@BeastOrGod]

If they wanted live service batman game, they should've just done a multiverse batman game where all the players are batman. Kinda like Spiderverse. And make them do missions in the multiverse where they fight many variations of villains and heroes. You can even buy upgrades from other worlds batmen, like maybe you borrow Green Lantern Batmans ring or Bat Wonder Woman's lasso.

[@shikniwho7215]

@@BeastOrGod or just make use of the whole Batman corp thing so they can just make their own Batman and gather loot probably match better

[@ohreally4752]

omg this would be so fire. 😢

[@Fgbjvgjhyh]

@@BeastOrGodgenius

[@RomanDenisov0703]

I can describe this game with a quote from The Godfather - “Look How They Massacred My Boy.”

[@TG3ImFree]

"And this, is how the rocksteady died"

[@BriarDare]

What gets me with the lack of enemy variety is that the premise fundamentally revolves around Brainiac mind-controlling people, so there are so many ways they could've used that to have a few different enemy types/factions: Brainiac'd Intergang, Brainiac'd MPD, maybe even Brainiac'd Atlanteans or Amazons since he seems to be a world-ending threat that likely would've pulled in forces from outside of Metropolis, etc.

[@makellreign7918]

I would love to see new enemy types like you mentioned in post launch content

[@davonross1022]

I see what you're saying but he only invaded metropolis but they did say they will be more places in the dlc and characters

[@Mcaark]

@@davonross1022 that could be all well and good, but for people who consider basic game design like "enemy variety" the prospect of paying additional money or even just waiting for a free update is not appealing.

[@SaintGerbilUK]

I'm not sure if it's the same enemies, but the combat looks same-y regardless of which character on screen. Unload machine gun Activate AOE attack Unload machine gun Repeat

[@AlexanderMartinez-kd7cz]

or, you know, the billions of alien species and robots brainiac has in his library e.e

[@carljohnson4285]

I have a feeling this was never supposed to be a live service game and when WB picked up the company They got money hungry. That's probably the reason why rocksteady's founders ended up leaving mid-development

[@Humicide-_-]

They been picked up the company. Back when they made arkham city. It sucks because since gotham knights was considered an "live service" and it made a profit that why they wanted suicide squad to be live service. If gotham knights never turned a profit then we could've seen a story driven game.

[@SpliffyHusk]

It was always a live service game. There is a lot of evidence of rocksteady pitching this to WB. Realistically, Rocksteady is WBs Michael Jackson, they’re gonna let Michael Jackson be Michael Jackson. Rocksteady was not forced, whatever single player game they brought, WB would back them. They had a flawless track record.

[@aidenrevetta4805]

​@SpliffyHusk the founders and vets of the studio wouldn't have quit mid development if there wasn't some sort of forced decision making coming from WB

[@Kevin-vn5ip]

@@Humicide-_-Gotham knights was so bad, it only made money because of the damn hype. Bro that game with fighting and movement in this game would’ve been soooo 😩😩

[@Link_Skywalker007]

​@@aidenrevetta4805 exactly

[@user_breathless]

It’s so obvious this game started as a games as a service and they definitely didn’t manage to switch it up. I remember when a dev said an 11 month delay wouldn’t be long enough to change a game that drastically

[@rentstoohigh1587]

Goddamn

[@homelander2243]

It’s a mess. Bought it on sale and it’s really a shame that projects like this just keep getting thrown out, like this one eventually will. Certain missions just taking away the ability to do whatever your characters meant for just sucks.

[@elfkaze]

I appreciate your honesty and not just telling people what they want to hear. Thank you.

[@DoomsdayMayBeOkay]

I feel live service games are on their way out and to be honest i couldn't be happier. Put all that money on single player experiences pls...

[@anaguma90]

People only have enough time for one live service game in their life at most, and when every game is live service of course they will flop. This is another failure to add to the live service graveyard, maybe some day the suits will learn.

[@buddysandz4939]

It’s cause they trying to shove it down our throats

[@kvarinsunermidst2629]

Just like the MMORPG, that also went through a golden age then massive decline, live service games which are a derivative of the MMO, are going the same route.

[@nomorepartiezz]

i cant believe this game still exists. anthem was fucking five years ago and it still feels like we have to sit through one of these embarrassing live service launches every year

[@_tsu_]

Palworld is more of less live service. Minecraft is more or less live service. Fortnite is going strong. Apex and The Finals are amazing games. Live service is here to stay IMHO. And good live service games are insanely fun. But there will always be bad ones. PS Really digging the Finals ATM. Extremely underrated game. The interactivity of the player and the world is unmatched in the history of shooters.

[@nekonekomikan]

I wouldn't be surprised if the very long tutorial was just padding to get past Steam's two hour refund limit.

[@bearpoop720]

On consoles you get blocked from a refund if you even open the game.

[@KorialstraszD]

Thats actually a genius move

[@Only1SamRaw]

​@@bearpoop720ya you're wrong

[@zonedout3390]

​@bearpoop720 misinformation, xbox has the same refund policy as steam, and Sony Is the only one who won't refund if you hit the download button only super rare instances they refund or if your in good standing with them on your acct. Don't talk if you don't know anything about the topic or at least fact check yourself before commenting

[@lIlIIllIIllIlIIIIl]

Nope the tutorial are like 15 mins

[@Psychomuffin7]

If Rocksteady makes a Batman Beyond game, I can see several of these traversal mechanics lending themselves to that world. Game mechanics that meet somewhere between Arkham Knight and Suicide Squad, in the form of a next-gen game set in that neo-noir/cyberpunk city has a lot of potential. It would also be neat to play as one character rather than four, with access to the best of the Suicide Squad’s collective moveset. Even if they didn’t innovate any of these mechanics or graphics and instead focused solely on world design and especially the writing, I’d be very excited to see it happen.

[@adad87821]

aggreed plus kevin could play old bruce wayne like the show

[@Psychomuffin7]

If only :/ RIP

[@Starboiiiii]

So the endgame of SSKTJL is to do the same missions over and over again on higher difficulties, so I can get better loot and then do the exact same missions on even higher difficulties, for more strong loot so I can do the exact same missions again? Okay then....

[@icantthinkofacoolname1308]

Suicide squad makes you appreciate the Guardians of the galaxy game

[@BrandonGavin_EDC]

Yeah this game would have been cool had they made a game like that, with a good story that didn’t disrespect all the heroes and especially Batman.

[@goofassjigga4349]

Guardians of the galaxy was actually really good, this game makes you appreciate Gotham knights

[@ross-carlson]

GOTG is absolutely fantastic!!!

[@tylerdurden8270]

The guardians of the galaxy game was actually pretty good, mainly storymode focused. but the avengers game on the other hand...

[@The-Deadite]

That game always looked peak tbh

[@TophDaGreat]

"It's going to be a no from me dawg"-Randy Jackson

[@ThePrice265]

here here

[@skaetur1]

It looks like a good game … for me to poop on! -Triumph the insult comic dog

[@TheFreshSoundsFlorida]

I'm with Randy on this one.

[@KA-zv8mm]

Gameranx coming in clutchhhhhhh so happy you guys have this series

[@TheDarman]

Especially if some of the leaks about what happens with the Justice League after the story are true, then they really messed up by dividing the endgame up into updates like this. They should’ve just launched the game with the first year’s worth of content in it and then expanded on it.

[@tomnook1929]

i bet the only time you can think of batman sitting on a park bench, defeated, is in this game.

[@Itsdarness25]

Have you ever read a comic book Harley almost killed Batman before with wonder women’s lasso and dropped Superman and escaped all 3 of them. And Batman has fell from space with absolutely nothing lol

[@luisg2665]

​@Itsdarness25 That's because DC doesn't like Batman anymore and wants to make Harley the best girlboss.

[@GhoulOfTheSouth]

​@@luisg2665well dc and cnn are owned by the same people so brainwashing is on full force go

[@johninenglish8236]

​@@Itsdarness25you mean the girl boss harley they're trying to milk? Yeah sure the woman that was a psychopaths sidekick for years can totally go up against the peak of humanity. They need to nerf batman heavily just to compete.

[@Paradox-es3bl]

@@johninenglish8236 Not really a legitimate criticism of the comics. Batman can go up against literal GODS like Darkseid, he can beat Wonder Woman or Superman sometimes, Green Arrow can basically do the same... Lex Luthor, same thing. All normal humans. Joker? Also no superpowers. Also does the same. Why can't Harley? Do you just hate the one female? Look, don't get me wrong, sometimes they make bad female characters, like Punchline, a new knock-off Harley. She hasn't been written well yet, imo. But complaining Harley can't go up against characters other NORMAL HUMANS can? Stupid argument.

[@The_Ostrich]

Can you imagine that the 9 year long wait for Rocksteadys next game has ended?

[@Nicholasmcmath-cr1xl]

Same

[@KhaosKontroller]

And THIS is what we got after 9 years

[@seanguinn]

After this games failure there might not be a Rocksteady.

[@electroshock58]

That's a bold statement to say Rocksteady will survive this abomination

[@Gltch-mj3zf]

Pretty sad

[@Hugo_Tate]

one small thing that annoys me is that they give you a limit bar on traversal. seems like you get momentum and then have to touch the ground

[@avalonjustin]

You give honest reviews and we appreciate that. Thanks Jake.

[@micpere1991]

It' very telling when the founders themselves left the company. Let's face it, all the talent that made the Arkham series what it is left long ago.

[@PsionicDiamond]

If the founders didn’t agree with the game then wouldn’t they have left A LOT sooner? They left when it was basically nearly done

[@bearpoop720]

​@@PsionicDiamondthat's not how it works. You think you would do the same thing, but in real life, decisions aren't made that fast, even if you already have a strong belief on something.

[@SeriousDragonify]

Founders also support the b7ck lives matter aka anarchist group.

[@jacksmith-mu3ee]

I stopped playing usa games I play chinese and japanese games now

[@bearpoop720]

@@jacksmith-mu3ee OK? That doesn't make you cool, theres no difference in intelligence of devs.

[@BassPlayer9000]

This is how it happened, this is how Rocksteady died

[@xAngoryx]

Oof

[@mrsasshole]

Nicely done.

[@louis1443]

If you can get it on sale try it out it’s not amazing but it’s not bad

[@thelastone523]

😂😂😂

[@Red-qv4nb]

W comment

[@piemaster1288]

Always appreciate your honesty. I probably won't play this unless it's still here in a few years and far more is added. I also just got back into Warframe, sooooo...

[@popepimpler3467]

Crazy avengers had more enemy variety at launch

[@adad87821]

ikr?plus the main story wasent to bad in it either

[@popepimpler3467]

@@adad87821 I don’t like certain things about the game but it’s not as bad as a lot of people make it seem, it’s like with cyberpunk but instead of wanting it to succeed it’s like everyone wanted it to fail on launch

[@firesaint4569]

I don’t understand how people still hype up Rocksteady as if it’s the same company. All the creative leads and team from the Arkham games have left the studio. It’s not the same people

[@thegamingfan5222]

We can't just assume every company that have a few people leave will immediately die. We have to see what comes out of it first. Now we've seem, and we can say that Rocksteady is now likely to be a cash cow for WB instead of a creative studio for the fans. Plus some of those guys didn't leave until late in development.

[@firesaint4569]

@@thegamingfan5222 the people make the games not the studio. When all the creatives leave a studio I think it’s safe to assume that the quality will drop. happened with Amy Hennig and Bruce Straley at Naughty Dog.

[@thegamingfan5222]

@@firesaint4569 I know, but I was just saying that they didn't leave right after Arkham Knight. There was some available talent during the making of SS. If they leave later, that could imply several things, but now we know that it's likely because WB forced Rocksteady to make some live service crap. NOW it's not the same company, because they have proven themselves not as good any more.

[@KingJohnMichael]

​@@firesaint4569so acording to your logic uncharted 2, 3, lost legacy, tlou 1 and 2 where poor quality games? Mate you are stupid af. 😂

[@KingJohnMichael]

Literally no one hyped this game up, from the first trailer everyone said this was shit, stop with the revisionist history to fuel your anti game studios agenda 😂😂😂

[@shadowofnoc5760]

Ill play this during that "its f2p" and "we are announcing that services for the game will become offline on X date" window.

[@SeriousDragonify]

Probably in 2-3 years when the game is finished. Assuming that current 4 Seasons is 1 Brainiac each. Game won't live long enough in few months after what they did with Justice League and Kevin.

[@Kaibat1205]

@@SeriousDragonifyI’d be surprised if it lasts longer than Avengers

[@SeriousDragonify]

@@Kaibat1205 If it lasts longer, then those who kept playing it are brainless buyers. I already saw some saying great story and gameplay being good. Jesus H.... Too many imbeciles who didn't play better games than this.

[@vortex_1336]

So in like a year.

[@TheAbbeyoftheEveryman]

So like next year? 😂

[@Deadsea_1993]

The bad part of all of this is that even if you wait for a deep sale that it wouldn't matter anyway as a live service game. When WB pulls the plug on it that means it will be a paperweight.

[@jprosey]

So here is my input. First I agree with a lot of his points. The bones for a good looter shooter is there. They will need to adjust there enemy type. There does need to be additional variation of enemies. The missions do need a little tuning. I hate to compare but similar to destiny strikes and division. There fun its just need tighter focus. The price at 70.00 maybe the high end for expectations. That 50.00 maybe the sweet spot. All the dps numbers and modifiers are pure dopamine. If they can continue to learn and implement some of these changes they may be on to something. There are so many characters they can add and storylines they can build and play with. I recommend to buy it once hit goes on sale.

[@futuretrunks_]

They could’ve end the Arkham verse with Batman beyond game rocksteady had so much potential

[@reffa2858]

Yeah, but someone at DC has a hard on for the suicide squad.....

[@vexersky1153]

Ew no one wanted that in the Arkham verse

[@firstlast6398]

@@vexersky1153 Obviously you're wrong

[@vexersky1153]

@@firstlast6398 no because Batman beyond is just way more unrealistic then this game and this game has tons of sales so apparently people wanted this too I swear you hater think the whole have is failing just because a couple thousand of you hate the game when way more like it

[@ChamzGames]

Ya'll would've hated Batman Beyond because it turned bruce into a grouchy lonely old man

[@thegodfather4437]

The game gets a lot better after you uninstall it

[@arifsenpai1495]

Even better, Shutting down the game.

[@selfimprovement5873]

Yeah honestly I just had so much fun when I looked at this game in store I didn't buy it.

[@Dieregorn]

Underrated comment 😂😂😂

[@moistcloud2679]

​@@selfimprovement5873not out till friday

[@karmasgodly390]

🤣🤣💨

[@nickfromohio6032]

This is what I needed. KZbin finally suggested a video from you guys.

[@LiLKENIS]

Hey I got a question for whoever can answer. I’ve seen this game everywhere recently and I want to get it but I’m just wondering is there any other games i should play before this? I’ve heared about the 3 Batman Arkham games but is there any others?

[@saalok]

The amount of "We will see it again a year from now" is getting very old very fast. I know this became the expected for games nowadays, but it is still sad.

[@runbaa9285]

I mean... That kinda comes with live-service games. Street Fighter 6 a year after release and Tekken 8 a year after release will also be pretty different games due to system adjustments, new characters, new content, etc, etc. Heck, just compare vanilla Tekken 7 on release at the arcades to Tekken 7 at the end of its life cycle right after it shipped its final DLC character. Practically two totally different games.

[@jordanbtucker]

@@runbaa9285 Yeah, but this is becoming true of even single player offline games where they come out unfinished and we have to wait months or years until they're actually good. No Man's Sky was the first one I remember when the trend started to take off.

[@R3alHooman]

@@runbaa9285 Much harder to compare a fighting games live service model though because yeah it's true they add content and make changes throughout the lifecycle of the game, but the patches they make are usually adjust characters and add content to an already amazing game. Tekken is a great example cause Tekken 8 has a crazy amount of content already from the characters and depth of each one, game modes, customization etc. And manages to deliver this as a full experience with no microtransactions or seasonal updates. A live service game like suicide squad and that horrid avengers game deliver you a half assed project and then throw microtransactions and seasonal updates in your face at the promise of more half assed content over time to keep you paying for and playing the same garbage over and over again. The fact that suicide squad is this mediocre - giving it the benefit of the doubt - at launch and we have to wait to see if it will eventually be worth anything is disgusting. Especially coming from the creators of the Arkham franchise.

[@runbaa9285]

@@R3alHooman a more apt comparison would probably be Hitman 2016. On release, Hitman 2016 was okay overall. Now, as part of the new trilogy package, Hitman World of Assassination is regarded as among the best Hitman content in the franchise. Doesn't change the fact that Hitman 2016 was okay at best back then, but with the hindsight that it's part of a larger trilogy, it does recontextualizes the game. The on-release review 'n done models work horribly for games designed to be continually updated gradually. I wi give the SS game one thing it has over the Avengers game, tho. It has a better gameplay foundation than Avengers. It's functional, it's fun, and it's fast. What the SS game lacks is good level and enemy design for the purpose of the gameplay loop.

[@nambui7678]

Rocksteady really take the "Suicide" in Suicide Squad real seriously

[@arifsenpai1495]

They really did suicide the whole franchise.

[@williamyoung9401]

The only Rocksteady I know of is from Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. I think it needs to stay that way.

[@Tere225]

You got to give credit to sweet baby inc too

[@N4chtigall]

Once they started working with Sweet Baby Inc. it was over. Kinda sad, but on the other hand well deserved failure.

[@Squidlettt]

@@Tere225these people ruin every game they touch.

[@zhinron]

Would have been cool if this was a legion of doom game where you could multiplay it up to take on heroes in a monster hunter type of game. Green arrow would be a jagras and superman would be final boss. Could grind for generic parts or equipment from the heroes to upgrade yourself. Using a kryptonite knife to skin superman to make armor? Yes please

[@Mark_Wilson07]

@Gameranx could do a video showing with the extra screen effects turned off.

[@clawgerber1992]

The Arkham games kept a nice veil of realism... This game looks like a Fortnite event.

[@StarkEpiphany]

Yeah I don't care how fun people say the combat is it looks like a cluster fuck to me. Definitely not my thing.

[@darthvader3742]

I remember seeing the trailer for this and thinking yeah this game ain't going to be great, and I think my prediction was correct.

[@i3eaniie602]

It’s meant to be like James Gunns suicide squad and Not Arkhams nitty-gritty world

[@cenciende9401]

As a huge fan of the first 2 and Origins (Knight sucked), no they didn't lol

[@rayv6671]

​@i3eaniie602 they've stated it takes place in the arkham universe, you can't say one thing and do another

[@Zyltria]

'Connecting to server' simulator

[@williamyoung9401]

Isn't that Diablo 4? 😝

[@chalk-one]

​@@williamyoung9401D4 has a new bedfellow.

[@divineboi97]

@@williamyoung9401but that’s a good game this is uninspired dog shit

[@vexersky1153]

That’s just your doo doo Wi-Fi lmao 😂

[@sugarboi8960]

@@vexersky1153 You clearly don't know anything about their Wi-Fi.

[@arjungill656]

9 years… that’s how long it took for another extension of the Arkham verse to come out. They could have done spinoffs on the Bat Family or maybe should have done Gotham Knights (since the story is literally knights foundation) and would be able to implement the combat from knight with a lot more. Even the cancelled beyond game would have been great…

[@shadette0823]

The problem with most games these days is that they get over hyped leading to disappointing reviews. Thank you for being honest with your review, but at the end of the day, if you have fun, who cares what critics say.

[@FreaKzero]

Before you .... "Connection Error"

[@rigo3188]

To me the main problem of this game is that, a mind-controlled/bad guy Superman can easily wipe them out in like 30 seconds the moment he knew they were planning something

[@bruhelbruh6293]

Yea but by that standard nothing should ever happen in the dc universe

[@pedroj3432]

​@@bruhelbruh6293exactly, and thats why dc and marvel are fucking stupid 😂

[@elvanlukas8161]

@@bruhelbruh6293 what do you mean? Superman isn't evil in the majority of dc stories, and when he is it takes all the other super heroes to try and stop him. People like Martian, Shazam, Cyborg, Acquaman. Real metahuman. Not three bozos and a demigod shark.

[@lpquig37]

This is the main issue with all comic book writing

[@kevjohno86]

@@elvanlukas8161 NOM NOM 🤣

[@justinmartinez528]

It’s just the fact that when the teaser for this along with Gotham knights came out we all thought this was gonna bring gaming back to its hype because gaming had nothing going on besides from Spider-Man carrying the whole community

[@CagedPhoenixThe1st]

I'm looking forward to this game but like most games , I'll wait til all the bugs are fixed and most of the dlc are released.

[@xEXABYTEx]

This is not the same Rocksteady that made Arkham

[@Erickhetfield]

I don't know how people are just now realizing this game had nothing to do with the Arkham series. -One is a single player, linear* experience. -The other a multiplayer focused, open game. - One is gothic, relatively mature game. - The other colorful semi-cartoony mess full of teen "humor". - One is a complex game with a fun melee combat system, stealth sections, exploration, puzzle solving ... - The other is a third person shooter that looks like Destiny and Fortnite had an abortion. When did anyone got the idea this would anything other than...this?

[@Les_Grossman80]

​@@ErickhetfieldI don't think the majority did. They had blind faith in the Rock steady name. It happens. When CD Projekt Red dropped the ball big time on Cyberpunk, no one was saying well ones a FPS and one is a fantasy game.

[@Erickhetfield]

​​@@Les_Grossman80Except that Cyberpunk at least looked good on trailers and had a good concept on paper. CDPR failed to deliver on the vision. This game never looked good, games as service is never good and the whole concept is the direct opposite to what Rocksteady was known for. Basically, there was never any reason for Arkham games fans to be interested by this.

[@DanielHernandez-pq5cs]

@Erickhetfield what are you even going on about they have confirmed many times that this is the cannon continuation to Arkham Knight.

[@cenciende9401]

The first two, Origins was fantastic too but was a secondary studio. Arkham Knight sucked, it felt empty and boring and lacking in variety or cohesion, after that I didn't have high hopes for this even if I did want it to do well and wanted them to learn from their mistakes with Arkham Knight.

[@jiito808]

This is the type of game you get on epic when they start giving it out for free and then you just never play it

[@gg_v2]

*cough cough playstation literally with this game* All my friends have less than 1 hour(s) played.

[@LightShowList]

Thank you so much for the info! I have been putting off buying Kirby’s tilt n tumble for years like 3 years because I wanted it after the price shot up. I just searched up a boxed Japanese copy and got it for less than a loose US cart. So exciting!

[@ThouSirKingsly]

Should be called “why not to buy”

[@andrewshandle]

At some point when you have a character whose entire schtick is throwing boomerangs using guns instead you need to go back to the drawing board.

[@PsionicDiamond]

He does use his boomerangs. He’s just not heavily reliant on them If I’m going against someone like Batman/purple aliens then I’m going to use a gun over a boomerang

[@andrewshandle]

@@PsionicDiamond you are missing the point, of course you'd use a gun over a boomerang in the real world, but this is a comic book world with people who use bows and boomerangs over guns. Bad guys dress as clowns, riddles, calendars, mirrors, pro wrestlers and carry ventriloquist dummies. They dress up as pharaohs, white rabbits and ride silly rocket ships. Taking everything great about comics and just replacing it all with guns in a bad Destiny clone is just silly from a gameplay perspective. The number one reason Captain Boomerang is interesting is specifically because he doesn't use guns, so to make his boomerang a traversal mechanic is lame as hell. The minute they made characters who never use guns become 100% reliant on guns is the exact time they needed to go back to the drawing board.

[@RoyMatzem]

​@@PsionicDiamondWhy put the Boomerang guy then? Put random shooter instead.

[@hogg1220]

@@andrewshandleYou miss the point that it’s a video game based on a comic book. The game would not work without guns and the story makes it feel entirely natural once you realize what they are up against. Stop pretending like it would ever be done any differently, because you know it would be even worse. Look at Gotham knights…they tried to build characters round ONLY their comic abilities and it was HORRIBLE. This game is heights and shoulders better than that and if you played it then you would know it. It is not a shit show that people seemed to think it would be. The movement is smooth and fun along with the combat and the world is pretty. The story is nice and spoiler, it does some REALLY unique and surprising things with the evil superhero’s. Stop bandwagoning im so sick of yall.

[@andrewshandle]

@@hogg1220 if the game only works with guns (and "works" is debatable since nobody seems to like it) then don't make the game. It's that simple. So again, you I'm pretty sure u understand the point of my own comment yet it keeps going over your head, and that's smashing a square peg into a round hole doesn't work. This isn't that complicated.

[@Atrus999]

Why is the UI so cluttered? That's like game design 101 stuff.

[@PsionicDiamond]

You can switch it off

[@sweaty4037]

@@PsionicDiamond shouldnt have to fix the devs game for them

[@MinisterOfTruth]

Well they probably are activists, not game developers!

[@bearpoop720]

You mean the writers, I can see the passion or potential in the gameplay, but not the story at all. ​@@MinisterOfTruth

[@PurooRoy]

I have so many problems with this game right off the bat, and I'm not talking about the gameplay, but rather questions that the producers should have raised the moment the game was pitched: 1. Why are Gotham villains in Metropolis? 2. Isn't the whole point of Green Lantern's ring that it requires willpower to work, right? So how is Stewart still having it after being possessed? 3. Why are there Riddler trophies? Wasn't the whole point of them that Riddler wants to prove his intellectual superiority over Batman? Whom is he showing it over here, King Shark? 4. What on earth was Batman doing with the Justice League? His identity already got revealed and he did the Knightfall protocol in the end of Arkham Knight. Why is he still running around in his costume? 5. Didn't Deadshot retire after the Knightfall protocol? More importantly, how did he change his race? 6. If Batman was in contact with the Justice League the whole time, why didn't he take their help in the Arkham games? Like, just call Superman to swoop in and clap Bane every single time.

[@gravesidepoet5405]

Only thing I can figure is that it’s Arkhamverse, but a multiverse variant. Which I hope because I do not want this game canon 😭

[@NicolasKiroy-ex9yz]

Every one of these is answered in the game, except maybe #3 being more of a point of carrying something over from the Arkham games. There is a section early on when you explore the Hall of Justice as the Squad and it will fill in what happened between Arkham Knight and this game, that section answers most of your questions. The bit about Deadshot is a running joke through the game, but it fits the story fine, keep in mind with comic book characters there are usually several people who take over the same mantle, for instance Green Lantern wasn't race swapped, it's just not Hal Jordan as is the typical standard. I don't think there is a direct answer for #2 in game, but there is nothing to suggest being brainwashed by Brainiac would nullify a power ring in the first place, they still have willpower, it's just bent toward Brainiac's cause; in fact, I would argue it makes his willpower stronger if anything since he is intent on nothing else except the objectives given to him by Brainiac.

[@xdmztryvsvedine2773]

Can you remove the hit point numbers that pop up when you’re fighting enemies?

[@Enigma75614]

I can’t believe we waited 9 years for this.

[@arifsenpai1495]

Shit release. it is unreal. Liveservices games on a single-player game

[@AbbieJr]

I wish gameplay and graphics were more like spider man 2 on ps5😢

[@shalindelta7]

​@AbbieJr that doesn't fix the bs story, dailogue and live service direction.

[@Enigma75614]

@@AbbieJr The gameplay should’ve been like the Arkham games, considering that this is a continuation of the Arkham games.

[@ro6uefour50]

@@AbbieJrgameplay is a different story but graphically wise the game and cutscenes look fantastic. There’s no way someone can say the graphics don’t look great

[@calvinmatthews1527]

Farwell Kevin Conroy. You'll always have the DCAU & the Arkham Trilogy.

[@DoctorGoober]

Thankfully we will get two more voice roles with him (Crisis on Infinite Earths Part 3, where he'll be Batman, and Caped Crusaider, where he's rumored to play Thomas Wayne) so thankfully KTJL won't be the last time we hear his voice.

[@PossumLint_1927]

🎻

[@RiderCGA]

Stop using that man’s name as a crutch to dislike the game. There are so many other flaws with the game that you don’t need to drag a deceased man’s name around just to do it.

[@hollopurple]

That hud looks like satire. Holy shit.

[@franktownsend410]

Thank you! This is the most helpful video I’ve seen on the game. I am still going to buy this but now I’m going to wait until the price drops on it.

[@adamb1453]

I cant believe Rocksteady's talent was wasted on this. These guys had made really good games previously.

[@TheFirstAtom]

From what I read, the team (or most of the original team) that worked on the Arkham games didn’t work on this title, as they left to form their own studio. But I’m not 100%.

[@fx1181]

Its not the same Rocksteady, the people behind the arkham trilogy have recently created a new studio, Hundred star games

[@spaghettidude2984]

This game could have been good

[@kevinmurphy4647]

Basically same thing that happened to a lot of studios lately within the last 10 or so years. It's all name now and is being dragged thru the mud.

[@-_void_-2779]

I mean the original team that worked on the Arkham series have either moved on to other studios or formed their own studio. It's not the same anymore. It's pretty unfortunate to see Rocksteady's legacy at this stage.

[@cjscrubs]

This game made me replay Arkham Knight again.

[@CM-hi4db]

Then go play it since u cant afford new games

[@tomatosauce4457]

​@@CM-hi4db wow sevage sevege wow wow

[@cjscrubs]

@@CM-hi4db I am. I'm just not spending money on a game where a majority of reviews haven't come out yet. I'd prefer to get a better idea of what other people think before I spend that much money on a game.

[@Kokoale2.0]

@@CM-hi4db My man Arkham knight looks better than this Ngl it’s not about price lol

[@demhasnose7764]

@@CM-hi4db the games ass

[@tommyb1two3]

When I see those gorgeous shots of the city I just imagine how amazing this game would be if they made it more atmospheric and something closer to Arkham City where you strategically choose how to engage enemies.

[@andyameye2456]

Arkham city is past 🎉

[@chrisstopher2277]

This kind of reminds me of army men sarge's heroes. The game where you play as a little green soldier guy.

[@solgerWhyIsThereAnAtItLooksBad]

Can’t wait to buy this game a year later when it’s on sale for a nickel

[@explosivediarrhea4671]

It’s will be on ps plus in 1 year

[@UmVtCg]

It'll be on gamepass quickly

[@confusedwarrior4495]

a year? It'll be $10 in a few months

[@brunopavesi8159]

Probably 6 months

[@PeskyCrowKaw]

Anthem 2

[@Enigma75614]

8:15 There’s no way anyone is going to play this game for more than a month, let alone a few years.

[@akiranoko9582]

Bet

[@stevenyee1055]

People will play it a few hours and then refund, lol.

[@fdjvck7401]

I am going to be playing it

[@Yeikzo]

@@stevenyee1055 but why ? Whats the matter ? I dont really know that game but it dosent look that bad to me ? Was about to buy it but since i saw all these comments i dont think so anymore 😂

[@zeke3978]

With Palwords and Tekken 8 out, I'm pretty good

[@hombuswacuracao]

Great video as always

[@pacoramon9468]

Now nobody will ask Rocksteady for another superhero videogame.

[@joindarkseid5024]

after this game... im ok with that. They peaked with batman arkham knight

[@ozymandias96]

@@joindarkseid5024they aren’t the same developers the guys who did Arkham games mostly are long gone

[@ItsJustRyansChannel]

​@@joindarkseid5024 ​EVERYONE peaks with Batman. It doesn't matter if you're making movies, comics, video games, etc. When it comes to DC, Batman is the PEAK. I'm not saying there aren't legit fans of other DC characters, but I would say.. NOT enough to make it matter. That's just my opinion. It's not even like I'm a "Marvel fanboy" or something. Yes, I PREFER Marvel over DC but even I recognize the BORING Marvel characters that the studio stupidly hypes up for PC reasons. When you think of Marvel you think of the top dogs like Iron Man, Hulk, Spider-Man. When you think of DC you think of Batman, Superman, and... That's about it lol (not counting villains). Even characters like Wonder Woman can't compete with Batman. Again.. just my opinion. I'm not Marvel fanboy hating on DC. I just generally think DC can't compete with Marvel and they have only a few characters I care about.

[@Underdrill]

​@@ItsJustRyansChannelMany would argue Nolan peaked after Batman, which is an achievement.

[@daveybabey]

Surely Warner is to blame here, no? If the publisher provides the funding then, the decision to go live service probably came from them as well? I can't imagine Rocksteady wanting to develop this mess.

[@nescumzwei]

I'm 40 this year and have audial / visual overload issues and I find this to be one of the most visually painful videos I've seen in a long time. Not because of Gameranx, but because the game itself is just absolute visual noise. Even if you can turn some stuff off I wouldn't touch this for that reason alone.

[@Oprahs_cellulite]

I turned 40 this year too man and I felt the same way playing final fantasy 16.... It maybe cuz we're old now! Lol

[@anthonyfernandez82]

I'm 22 and feel this way

[@milosstojanovic4623]

@@Oprahs_cellulite nahh, i am 36, and this looks awful, aesthetics are atrocious.

[@cattysplat]

It's just the modern trend of crap all over the screen. It's absolutely bad art design.

[@dantauche7917]

Also 36 and this game is visual diarrhea

[@conradchester1246]

What are peoples thoughts on the UI? I think it takes up too much of the screen

[@believeinmatter]

Never thought I’d see a Suicide Squad game before I saw an actual high quality Superman game 🤷‍♂️

[@FoxHoundV]

Looks like a color explosion you’d see at a casino. No thank you.

[@Jordy268]

I went into this with the mindset it was its own game, not a sequal or anything connected to previous games. I'm having fun with it for now, and i will be for some hours to come. When i stop playing i will come back for updates and new characters to check out. But hopefully they can make it more diverse with the missions to keep me interested in the endgame. Its not the greatest game out there, its not the worst, its good enough for me though. I just dont really mind the live service games and the cosmetic shops. I never buy skins and never will, it adds nothing to the game for me.

[@rikko47]

I kind of figured this game was going to be a wait for a major discount sale

[@codyvalentine9112]

Its sad thats how games are now days that they lack meat or I guess depth.

[@Ccubed92]

Plenty of games out here

[@fredcasdensworld]

As if Pac-Man had any depth or meat

[@theaveragemegaguy]

Pac Man was made in the 80s that argument is dumb. There's plenty of games from 2000-2015 that have a lot of depth. It feels like most AAA games these days are cash cows with no depth.@@fredcasdensworld

[@davis1622]

​@theaveragemegaguy I wouldn't be so pessimistic. Lots of amazing games over this last year.

[@theaveragemegaguy]

Well no I agree, I was just trying to point out how the Pacman argument was dumb and what that OP probably meant nowadays as like pre 2020 @@davis1622

[@TheTopStarz]

I’m not even surprised that the enemies are boring, it seems like that’s case with most modern games and I’m not sure if they’re boring cause they’re bad or we as players have seen it before and want something new because those exact same enemies were great years ago but they’re some games with enemies that are enjoyable

[@selfimprovement5873]

I hate this ideology because it makes the developers seem unaccountable. Here's some simple logic so hopefully they'll never have the question. Ask yourself do you dislike the gameplay for a specific reason? Is that reason because it feels like something you've played before(aka not very innovative). If yes then it's because of your experience, if no it's because something more specific than that.

[@shaunavant532]

Not everyone has to make another NEW EXPERIENCE for it to be a good game ​@selfimprovement5873

[@user-xu2ie5gn4j]

Love your reviews first stop when wondering about a game

[@MrOnepiece14]

I love coop PVE shooters like Mass Effect 3 MP, it was my gold standard. How does this stack up to that? Teamwork, powers, etx. Obviously its eleven years older but ME3MP still holds up as a great co op game so i want a game like that.

[@am.prod21]

Rocksteady story board being pitched: Let’s take this Arkham universe we’ve developed so well in the past and just destroy it Rocksteady: I love it

[@jordanbtucker]

More like WB Execs: You're going to make a live service game next. Rocksteady: Do we have to? WB Execs: Yes. Rocksteady: Shit. Rocksteady creative leads: Bye!

[@rodrigoluzz7534]

The real villain surely is WB

[@lastmonarchistproduction_253]

rocksteady: you know what, i think we're tired of batman, let's do a shooter fans: rocksteady is dead

[@CReese-os8fc]

Since most of the RS passion simply left while making this game, the only hope is they create an indie studio with something like City of Heroes. (Since they won't be able to afford DC liscenses without big publishers)

[@jeremyyy6709]

I remember when it was announced everyone thought it was gonna be so repetitive and I see that's not wrong at least

[@dahoodie3158]

Idk I was hype asf fr than I was immediately disappointed

[@TheRandomRepository]

I knew it too. These AAA companies just want to take your money by putting the minimum amount of effort.

[@jeremyyy6709]

@@dahoodie3158 same here all the way till launch and even IGN butchering the review made it seem like it’s good so now I’m just gonna wait for a sale

[@tjohnnyf7100]

61 % on metacritic and a lot of bad reviews lol

[@iLuvGaming]

Just looking at the gameplay for like 5 seconds I’m like…no

[@donthemoose]

I just wished games had more stakes, like the choices you make actually have weight to them. Like I’m shadow of Mordor every time you died, they leveled up because of your mistakes.

[@JoshLasto]

We’re feeling Microtransaction/live service fatigue. It’s too much and everywhere. This is why,I think, games like BG3, Enshrouded, hell even PalWorld are huge hits at fair prices. All while D-IV is asking $40 for a portal color and Suicide Squad is asking $70 for a half baked game, it’s tiring. That being said, you know damn well we’re all paying $100 for GTA VI 🤪

[@marcusclark1339]

not even that, even without Fatigue its just mediocre especially when dialogue is worked on by ESG company Sweet Baby which explains so much of the terrible dialogue in the game and why it doesn't respect any character at all

[@robwaters8848]

​@@marcusclark1339I'm so fvcking done with ESG and DEI. I'm at the point where if I see anything like that getting shoved down my throat, I shut it off immediately. I don't think I'm the only one either, I think it's way more people. I also believe the loudest people who are advocating for it are actually in the minority. Even if people are somewhere in-between and letting slide, I'd wager they're rolling their eyes at those moments.

[@Itsdarness25]

You don’t have to buy skins lol this is another dumb comment. No dlc will cost money and you don’t have to spend a single dime outside buying the game

[@JoshLasto]

@@Itsdarness25 point missed. The $70 game is still constantly asking for money. Whooosh

[@SeriousDragonify]

​@@marcusclark1339They also worked on Ragnarok and SM2 which is why those were garbage as well. Plus SM2 is overpriced expansion that they took out more than giving in. With Brittney Morris and Bryan Intihar they f789ked up the franchise.

[@Partythomasso]

It's incredible how a simple thing such as UI can be such a big turn off

[@TheTreezus]

A simple thing you can do is turn off things you don’t like of the ui in the settings

[@eyeofhamsa]

@@TheTreezuswhy should I do that make it simple and enjoyable this ain’t no tech job I just want to play

[@TheTreezus]

@@eyeofhamsa you ever adjusted aim sensitivity before? It’s that easy believe it or not

[@michealgatling]

@@TheTreezusGuessing you're an SS fan, not an Arkham one

[@hassathunter2464]

But does it POW WOW you (honest UI devs words)

[@jammypatient8649]

They really have Harley swinging like PS1 Spider-Man 💀

[@dogg5219]

I'm 8:11 in and I feel like you're describing Spider-Man games in my opinion but i love them. But I think i will love this game tho

[@Solus147]

Even if it was free, I still couldn't see myself playing it more than a couple hours.

[@robwaters8848]

I wouldn't play it at all. It just makes me want to play Guardians of the Galaxy (which is an awesome game btw).

[@Only1SamRaw]

That's it

[@werknemerful]

​@@robwaters8848 People shat on that game also because gamers cant decide between an apple or an orange.

[@jeanbethencourt1506]

At this point I've seen far more iterations of the Justice League being evil or whatever than just being the normal Justice League.

[@bryanyoung22]

To be fair that's mostly superman going evil, the others I've barely see go rogue LOL.

[@Mukation]

@@bryanyoung22 On one hand, the DC heroes are so overpowered that them going dark is probably the only way things get interesting. But yeah, we saw good Batman in the Arkham series, not anyone else. We never saw Superman good in the Akrham-verse either. This is obviously just a cashgrab to try and mimic injustice games story of Superman gone rouge. Wouldn't have minded this as a game on it's own as a DLC in a "good" Justice Leauge game universe, but as it stands on it's own, i'm not going to play it.

[@charlescauldron]

Welcome to current year "burn it all down" thinking.

[@Lauren007E]

​@Mukation completely disagree. They're so powerful that them trying not to hurt people is more interesting than them just being evil and breaking shit

[@Mukation]

@@Lauren007E I mean there is a reason why we virtually only have successful Batman games and not a Superman/Flash/Green lantern/Wonder woman games.

[@revivedsoul1099]

This game looks dope, love the swinging, like Boomerang and Harley swing look dope. Hope you give more creds, hope its good game, and get better in future. Cause jad potential. Ty for review

[@charlesfoster7151]

Jake, I agree. I’m going to skip on this one and come back when we get a single player narrative game made by Rocksteady that takes place in the DC universe. I hope everyone who’s having fun playing continues to do so.

[@zerocalvin]

captain boomerang = gun harley quinne = gun king shark = gun deadshot = gun basically you are just going to have 4 characters that play pretty much the same way... this game make the avenger game look like a masterpiece... because at least you get unique gameplay from each character... too bad that game died like 6 months after released...

[@Darkwolf-ey4jz]

that's where your wrong this feels better than avengers yes there more versatility in avengers but gets very old very fast and avengers was dead before it came out

[@mistamaog]

It was pretty obvious to me from the original teaser trailer that each character was going to use a gun. I don't get why no one complained years ago.

[@BigJonesEnergy]

This is a shooter. That’s the mistake people who complain without having played it are making. It’s a looter shooter that’s not like the marvel game. If you like outriders or the division you’ll love this game

[@SolidSnake240]

​People DID complain tf are you on about. That was the first thing people pointed out was how every character basically played the same.​@@mistamaog

[@SolidSnake240]

​@@BigJonesEnergyThe point is that nobody wanted a generic looter shooter with DC characters. They should've made all original characters instead of trying to cash in on the DC name.

[@sean24833]

Games like this and avengers should make you appreciate guardians of the galaxy game which was awesome.