Sunday Morning Emergency No Heat Service Call - “Cant Fix This Mess!” Unbelievable Horror Revealed!

[@matthiaslipinski2826]

Whoever installs garbage like this needs to be prevented from ever doing any work for homeowners ever again. I know why I do almost everything myself.

[@williamserver4332]

Should have left the old radiators. What a mess. Great video

[@NCLUSA]

Those old radiators last forever.

[@lippru]

What a mess! Also notice the water pipe runs above the electrical panel at 15:28 in the video.

[@mikedeloso6831]

No way a qualified professional did that work. Im amazed a home inspector didn't flag it.

[@NCLUSA]

Some companies use the cheap labor idea, and some of these workers have no grasp of things. I worked for an electrical contractor some years ago, and the work they did was just DANGEROUS, I didn't work there long.

[@terrythomas790]

Stevie Wonder was the inspector.

[@snakeinthegrass7443]

As a licensed master electrician, I'm shaking my head knowing these same hacks rewired at least part of her house - the part that catches fire the most, the kitchen!! My prayers for the homeowners. Bottom line to people looking to hire someone - if there are inspectors out there for the type of work you want done - insist on getting inspections either from your municipality if they have them, and if not, they will tell you who the inspection agencies are in your area. One doesn't always need to be licensed to do work in your area. But that does not mean their work isn't required to be inspected. I'm just an electrician, but I'm not so sure this heating system would pass any inspection.

[@swaterman08]

I bet the kitchen had no space for a baseboard so they said, for and extra 1500 we can do in floor heating

[@dw3403]

I have the same type of system and no the kitchen does not have a register. These heaters do a good job of heating. She should have put money into insulating. This is now a mess.

[@PaulFitzpatrick-b8z]

Contractors who do this to homeowners should not only have to pay back all the money that they basically stole, but any cost of repairs and loss. If they don't know what they are doing, admit it it, get someone who does.

[@snakeinthegrass7443]

And lots of warnings to the public about them with pictures plastered on TV and at every home super store in the area. They should be arrested for fraud and impersonating real contractors.

[@chadperry5985]

Great video hope to see an update on this on what your going to do

[@garysmith9772]

The hardest working guy on the interweb!!!!!

[@Spec360]

Electricians will have a field day with this video lol

[@dearestdennis]

9:50 - If i hired a plumber to come help with an issue and I heard constant laughter I know im F’d!!!! LMAO!

[@PipeDoctor]

Capital F

[@robertsmith2956]

It could be worse. They could have done the heated pool also. 🥵

[@suckamc3232]

@@dearestdennis 😂👏👏

[@saywhatnowcomon3426]

Number of things wrong that I've seen so far absolutely everything

[@kens.3729]

This Homeowner needs to Hire a Good Attorney and Sue this HVAC HACK for Damages. 🤪👎

[@JamesBrown-db9pk]

yup but no lic no ins u aint gettin shit 4grt about it

[@F12255]

Felipe the sheet rock guy probably put that mess together

[@scottmaz4063]

Redo it all

[@gabbertje2811]

I have one tip to prevent injuries and/or nasty shocks. Always assume the 24V wiring is somehow connected to mains voltage until proven otherwise (measuring against ground). I have seen (and touched!) botched up 24V boiler / AC wiring, either a hack job or damaged wiring touching mains voltage. Stay safe!

[@torinbrown8196]

My co-worker, an electrician, yesterday went to troubleshoot a commercial dishwasher. The ship red-tagged the breaker in the off position but he did his due diligence and found 440v in the control panel. Fuckers left the breaker in the on position!

[@851995STARGATE]

Whoever did this job previously seriously need to be reported to someone, cause thats a nightmare

[@MichaelConferPhoto]

Scary,Freightening and absurd.

[@PipeDoctor]

All the above ✅

[@acrservicesmathewr7565]

This is utterly disgusting to look at. Jobs like this should require the proper licenses to do this long of work and proper inspection afterwards. You should have to have permits for something like this. Unbelievable that’ floor board will warp and start to buckle every heating season

[@guytech7310]

Probably not that bad because of how poorly the radiant loops are installed. Mostly fastened to the joists & not touching the subfloor very much. I would guess it will keep the basement nice and warm.

[@g.l.g.6064]

Had a job like this 20 years ago, was an old house converted into a dormitory for college students. General contractor and I went over the plumbing and heating system to bring it up to code. After a walk through the only parts of the plumbing and heating that were usable , 1. main water shut off at the meter, 2. the stack clean out at the floor, 3. new heating boiler installed by college maintenance, everything was junk!. The soil stack was cast iron, PVC, ABS, 4" flue pipe and rubber hose to the sinks, holding up the mess was strap iron , rope and winter tire chains. The piping off the boiler was even worse no expansion tank, hanging pipes. My quote was really excessive did not want to be involved in what was to become a s**t show. Sometimes its best not to be involved, when the customer low balls a job then wants a pro to bring back the dead you don't win and working with the contractor that did this job will not be good! 😎

[@TheRAMBO9191]

Oh my sweet buttery baby Jesus. Good luck🍻🫡

[@PipeDoctor]

Thoughts and prayers aren't enough

[@MWestern-m4g]

MP getting that money!!!!! I salute you. Get it while you can.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@PipeDoctor]

I’ve got a few more decades to go

[@solartherm]

cheap homeowner hires the cheapest handyman who once saw a monoflow system and said " I got this"

[@tonymanero5544]

Also lots of licensed contractors are hacks, like a John and a Wh’o. Once and done, not coming back for any consequence.

[@Ariel1S]

Hiring someone expensive does not guarantee better results, many homeowners don't have any way to evaluate quality.

[@brendanlynch2138]

Sounds like another quality kitchen job done by Brothers aluminum!!

[@philtheheaterguy951]

Apparently they charged the pex by the foot.

[@robertsmith2956]

I thought they went for the bonus. One free crimp for every 50 crimps in ten feet. The entire idea of pex was NOT to have 250 joints waiting for a leak.

[@edwardlowery6510]

pex is for water lines

[@elainerussell924]

He ke3ps saying O my god ! That's what the owner will say wen they give them the bill !!!!!!

[@NCLUSA]

My wife and I have been blessed with good service in the last few years. The guy that fixed our furnace did a great job, and the guy that works on our cars does a great job too, if you find a company/persons, stick with them.

[@valeriekehrt7566]

Don't understand how home was sold with this terrible job& not to mention dangerous. Wow. I feel bad for them.😢

[@gerrycgc]

Can’t help but feel for the homeowner.

[@F12255]

I think I heard her say she had them slap it in temporary to give her more time to do it permanent. probably didn't want to pay and hired a guy that was standing outside home depot

[@menashelandau4293]

hey mikey pipes great vid. oh my what a disaster. - and regarding pex monoflo tees , they do make them found on supplyhouse - best of luck

[@allblackallblackandmorr8888]

What a mess. Get the check book Margaret.

[@Metlupass2]

So thankful I jave a gas furnace and dont ever have to deal with a mess like this.

[@latestarter7761]

Oh the hacks can mess up a perfectly good ducting system as well lol

[@kimballwhite]

Yes. Me too. Having a gas or oil boiler would be the absolute worst.

[@theodorgiosan2570]

Yuck, forced air. How do you live with that dried out, scorched air. A good boiler install doesn't look anything like this. And the heat is so comfortable, especially with cast iron radiators and the soft heat they give out. I wouldn't live in a house with a furnace, not in a million years. Especially not gas where the heat exchanger can corrode through and let carbon monoxide into your house with no smoke or other warning signs. Hot water is also a million times more complex than a steam system, which has practically no moving parts and will easily last 100 years plus. The best of both worlds. Simplicity and reliability beyond forced air with the comfort of hot water. I won't buy a house with anything other than steam heat, preferably oil fired. Just like any other system if it was installed or serviced by idiots it's not going to work right, or look good.

[@terrythomas790]

@@theodorgiosan2570 I take it that you dont like forced air. You know they make carbon monoxide detectors, so there is a way to know if some is in the air?

[@Chris_In_Texas]

What a complete mess. 😮

[@PipeDoctor]

Beyond a complete mess

[@zekenzy6486]

Great video. Thank you for sharing

[@Jovial_1]

All temporary… 😳 Wild statement

[@brettdaprile6595]

Whoever installed this mess needs to be jailed

[@duanehouston7689]

That’s great that you’re willing to partner with Mr Hack to see and hear his game plan. Mr Hack should pay you and not the poor customer.

[@merllhagard6799]

Respect for leaving a quote for your professional service. Maybe the person in charge of bills for this home will realize that the hacks are cheap and the pros are expensive. This is the way for a reason. 💪🇺🇲

[@tonymanero5544]

Mikey drives a $150,000 Porsche. That’s the reason.

[@MWestern-m4g]

Rural King Plumbing by Cletus

[@mackenhoor]

That was special

[@PipeDoctor]

It sure was

[@abrucetar]

Holy shitshow ! Dr pipes has his hands full!

[@bindig1]

I would expect a failed connection at any time. I'd be afraid to leave the house. What a hack job

[@BlahBlah-em2ed]

I bet this handy work was done by Josh

[@Andrew-ep4kw]

My house has hydronic heat and one radiator on the downstairs loop is located beneath the floor of the bathroom. I really don't think it does much beyond heating the crawlspace a bit, but there it is.

[@joed9908]

They may end up calling the same guy that did that mess

[@terrythomas790]

Probably their grandson

[@chadschafer3890]

Set up like a monoflow but without the correct tees

[@snicks50]

Last heating season I seen some thing just like this. well close enough lol. Ended up all new pipes for the heat.

[@rustyshakleford5230]

1/2" PEX B with crimp fittings on a hydronic system is nuts. I had a property a few years ago that was 3/4 all done in crimp PEX And with all the fittings I total it up to have an equivalent run of 670 ft In the 3rd floor zone. The funny thing was they used PEX A pipeso I could reuse a lot of it. I removed over 100 90° crimp fittings from that system and got rid of the burned up high head taco and replaced it with a regular 007.

[@PeteBerman]

Good enough for this neighborhood.

[@robertsmith2956]

I just new this would happen when he branched into Florida. they don't understand how to install radiators there.

[@Ariel1S]

Shouldn't that PEX actually be PEX-AL-PEX? The standard PEX they have there is going to rapidly corrode the boiler. I think all of it needs to be ripped out and replaced.

[@ericbierley9766]

Doesn't need to be AL pex but should be Oxygen barrier to keep it from corroding the cast iron.

[@Shadi2]

@@ericbierley9766 this

[@kyledakilla8724]

These poor homeowners.

[@johnphillipsplumbing7148]

She was like ,listen,enough with the interrogation, I just got here,slow your role mutha effa😂😂😂

[@JamesBrown-db9pk]

looks like your work jew hater

[@joelnasdaq2724]

@@JamesBrown-db9pk No, he just hates Trump.

[@doublewide420]

Mike you cant possibly want this crew helping on the re-do..Your gonna be married to this job by way of warranty,why would you purposefully add in bad workmanship to the job?Bad move buddy

[@mouradBendidi-gu7qu]

Ur so right about that why would he he say that to the customer

[@RS-yu4lb]

This house is a tear down.

[@PipeDoctor]

You ain’t kidding.

[@kylebass4635]

They hacked up the entire heating system in the house. Completely unbelievable!!!!!!

[@terrythomas790]

They pexed that place up!

[@robertsmith2956]

You mentioned mono T's. Are they just branching off the main trunk, and back into it from the radiators? Instead of the return going to the return line?

[@throttlebottle5906]

looks to be exactly what they did. maybe the "radiant zone" was actually a redneck bypass, meant to be partially valve shut to induce flow in the others? that mess boggles my mind. lol

[@Razor2048]

Seems like it will be a nightmare to fix.

[@CortexGaming]

3:20 Why is it temporary?

[@bauhnguefyische667]

Somebody knew it wasn’t gonna work 😂

[@bradleysprague2092]

What about a hot water loop on a steam boiler? Should that also pump away? I’ve seen some here in Ohio that pump on the return due to water temperature

[@DAS-Videos]

Did a licensed hvac guy do that? I would be crying if it was my heating system and I saw what they did to it. All that energy used to keep the spiders warm on the cellar ceiling, not to mention how they hooked up the radiators.

[@bauhnguefyische667]

May have had a drivers license … the work looks like he drinks on the job … so … probably neither.

[@ericdowner5589]

Just wondering about BTU allowed in 3/4" diameter pipe?? I think you are limited to something like 88,000 and for a multi-story house I'm thinking 1 1/2" should be minimum???

[@PipeDoctor]

Stop over complicating it

[@shaunbava1801]

3/4 pex will carry around 4 gpm, copper because it has a larger inner diameter can carry 6gpm in a radiant system. If your system is designed around a 20 degree delta T as most systems are(mind you indirect water heaters and fan coils may run much higher delta T's but baseboard or rads 20, 25, 30 max) you are looking at 40k BTU for pex,60k BTU for copper.

[@brians8664]

Just a heads up, Wal-rich does make pex monoflow tees. Doesn’t seem like it’ll help you in this case, but it’s something to stick in the back of your memory.

[@walkgood4092]

Is there a followup to this?

[@jaysonperez1984]

Oh the hackery ! It hurts my soul …..

[@Aepek]

7:29 why not take the extra 30 secs and add a cap to the line that is not in use b/c it’s abandoned……..meaning it’s not in use and know its not in use especially if other end of pipe/tube/line been cut 🙄

[@nikosniko7092]

Cost like 10$ a cap

[@shaunbava1801]

@@nikosniko7092 1/2 pex plugs are like 30 cents plus the cost of a crimp ring......It would cost less than $5 to cap all those lines.

[@Jbrd1911]

Ive had to install purge tees and set ups many of times.theres a mountain community in Monroe ny that shuts water off after summer so you have to bring water with you and a pump to fill/purge after repair. If you think this is bad you haven't worked in sullivan county ny before.

[@meyou8141]

I doubt that is even the correct PEX for radiant heating. Of course that's the least of the problems.

[@shaunbava1801]

it's not the boiler will eat itself as will any black pipe, nothing is right. Start again it won't ever work "well"....

[@erikjoven2388]

Unreal the stuff you see - my wife an i just got a house in FP - may be giving you a call to come check things out with the heating system once we close!

[@terrythomas790]

You should get someone that knows to inspect prior to closing! Let the owner fix current problems, unless you already know of them.

[@scottvolage1752]

OMG the hackery is bad on this one. Make the heat work again Mikey Pipes. #LoveBosch

[@AnonymaxUK]

Found out why the basement gets warm lol

[@YouTubeHarassmentTeam]

That looks like the heating isn't the only cob job in this house

[@bobb.4169]

OMG Mikey! The whole thing is total madness! What on Earth were they thinking when they decided to let some Rube Goldberg hack loose in their house? After watching this video I need a drink. Best of Lucky with that one bro !

[@lachcik5084]

i see this too often too, its soo sad

[@Swoliosis1]

How do you bill the customer in a case like this?

[@F12255]

charge 1 hour overtime for the service call. send proposal to permanently fix.

[@easkeybikes1966]

Where was this mess @PipeDoctor ?

[@Jovial_1]

0:20 any trim carpenters watching.. 😢 It hurts

[@shaunbava1801]

That's a redo, it does not appear to be oxygen barrier pex in the basement(it's Lowes/HD pipe orange is the oxygen barrier color plus I see the 5006 markings which is plain pex-b), it's sloppy it makes zero sense. Do home runs to the baseboards to manifolds that can be used to bleed the system on each zone and run radiant loops under the kitchen floor using reflectors and insulation and temper the water with a mixing valve. What a jacked up install, someone needs to clean that up, maybe they can salvage some fittings but there is not much else salvageable. A plumber would have to be nuts to work on that unless it is all being replaced or the scope of work is minor and well defined like changing a valve or a leaky fitting.

[@jasonmonday6565]

Hello, Michael, let's get down with it

[@kennylavay8492]

That bad job probably cost the home owner a small fortune to f&&k things up that bad.

[@PeteBerman]

What a mess.

[@unclefester4822]

Moe, Larry and Shemp are at it again...good luck with that nonsense.

[@TheRe-EngineeredLife]

Jesus Christ. How does someone willingly do that and get away with it? This is the worst plumbing I have ever seen in my entire existence on the spinning blue ball. I have no other words, besides it's just that bad. I pray for that homeowner.

[@PipeDoctor]

Not giving a fuck is a great explanation

[@StevenMcbride-pm2wr]

Damn that’s a real rube Goldberg Mess there ! Where did she find the guy to do that outside the Home Depot lol

[@PipeDoctor]

lol

[@tc1705]

thats a damn mess

[@5410th]

I wonder if whoever installed the system has his own KZbin channel and is making house calls?

[@ronlovell5374]

Jesus Murphy, that should be criminal! When you think you've seen it all then you walk in this 💩.

[@dw3403]

I have a system like that. They charged her to take all of the old copper plumbing out and left the old furnace? They left a valve on top of the the furnace? Where is the pressure regulator and relief valve that should be right above the system? That is not actually a boiler it is a swimming pool heater. Still works for heating. Putting in the floors they have changed the pressure. Air locks in the line cause problems with registers not heating. She needs to get that person into a court.

[@PipeDoctor]

What are you talking about?

[@dw3403]

@PipeDoctor Above the furnace should be that tank that regulates the pressure. O that very pipe that goes to that tank there should be a main air valve that allows a lot of air to go through it but shuts when the water hits it. That's what gets rid of the air after the system gets drained because of working on it. It is a different kind of valve than radiators have to get ride of bubbles that won't flush out causing problems certain radiators.

[@bauhnguefyische667]

I can’t even …

[@dw3403]

@@bauhnguefyische667 The expansion tank.

[@bauhnguefyische667]

@ The ‘work’ on that boiler piping and radiant is so fundamentally botched up the only way to fix it is to rip most of it out. On a boiler that old, I would not waste my time or the customers money with that. I am assuming also before these recent ‘repairs/improvements’ it probably did not work that well, but at least they could purge air out out of the old standing cast iron rads at the key vents. If you pay attention to the video, all the basic parts are there; ie, feeder, pressure relief and expansion tank on near boiler piping. Weil McLain has a nice little handbook on boiler piping, Burnham has a great one too. Dan Holohan’s book is a great reference. Now, I’m overcomplicating it, but if you read some of the top comments the list of just plain botched work gets explained.🤔

[@MrKbsweeney]

What a freaking mess.

[@PipeDoctor]

A disaster is a more appropriate word

[@MrMjn5000]

yikes...what a mess....

[@PipeDoctor]

Messy situations are just life’s way of keeping things interesting!

[@terrythomas790]

@@PipeDoctor Now Ill think about this every time I eat spaghetti!.

[@snakeinthegrass7443]

ALL OF THEIR TOOLS, EQUIPMENT AND VEHICLES SHOULD BE CONFISCATED AND SOLD TO PAY THAT WOMAN BACK. THEY SHOULD BE PUBLICLY SHAMED FOR THE "WORK" THEY DID!!!

[@bobt4949]

I found a boiler with NO relief valve

[@airplaneengine]

That's the risk you take by hiring a hack. You think you're saving money but just wait until you need to call a real tech to come out and clean it all up. Not to mention all the other damage to your property the hack could've caused.

[@omarmaldonado189]

😂😂😂😂😂😂 nice radiant heat

[@markkogler3552]

This is a horror movie for techs like me. I am going to have nightmares tonight. It is unfortunate that we come across jobs like this year in and year out. dont hire the cheap guy even if it is all you can affoard.

[@roberts.3712]

$15,000 might fix it but the labor involved would be insane....run away unless they have unlimited money.

[@guytech7310]

Should cost that much. Just need to rip all o f the pex in the basement & redo most of the basement runs for now. Then fix the radiators upstairs as phase two. I am guessing the are are fixed income. so probably cannot afford a large bill at once. That said this is an example of going cheap cost big $$$, since it needs to be removed & redone from scratch.

[@terrythomas790]

@@guytech7310 Instead of this "temp. mess", they would have been better off buying some heavy coats, and socks, until it could be fixed correctly.

[@Randompcman1]

So what's your favorite kind of helicopter.

[@davidlampe4153]

Unbelievable what was the homeowner’s reasoning for replacing the old radiator’s and old pipes?

[@shaunbava1801]

I can tell you what likely happened some genius repiped the rads with that PEX which is not oxygen barrier, rads are cast iron, they corroded from oxygenated water and were leaking and clogged with rust. Homeowner brings in a handyman who did the baseboard conversion with the sharkbites at least he seemed to use oxygen barrier pipe and had the existing piping not been such a cluster it would have worked alright but the guy clearly doesn't understand heating systems just running pipes. This is clearly a case of some hack made modifications to the old system and this homeowner bought the home and the heat didn't work and she didn't have the money to bring in a plumber so she had a handyman try to fix it and now is finally bringing in professional as reality is setting in that she's not going to have heat this winter.

[@guygfm4243]

What a big job, and did she pay for it.

[@allservicepros.servicenow706]

30 pack Jack did it.

[@georgeleon7747]

In a nutshell ,WOW.