Sundown Audio Midrange Speakers Listening Test Head-to-Head

[@Gnik4144]

They need someone like you at every car audio company!!

[@RandyCastelos-ee7ns]

That’s what sets sundown apart research and development that’s why I’m a sundown nut hugger and will only buy sundown because I can watch it get abused and know it’s gonna hang with my abuse !

[@ddtstrc9678]

The neo pro sounds pretty impressive .

[@A1B3R7I]

I run 4 full range no tweeters lol loud and clear

[@rodolfosotelo5929]

Those are sooooo dope! One thing for sure when all my health issues get better and this cancer bid is over im going to be jumping over to Sundown audio!

[@Christian12291]

Hopefully u doing good

[@rodolfosotelo5929]

@@Christian12291 thank you so much brother I really appreciate it man! Doing way better getting my weight back and 6 month scan coming up in April fingers crossed and trusting in God's plan brother. God bless and you and thank for checking up on me man!

[@Rezbionic]

@@rodolfosotelo5929 spoiler alert ⚠️ you already beat cancer

[@rodolfosotelo5929]

@@Rezbionic amen to that brother 💪 now we just have the 6 month scans which we graduated to from 3 month scans! God is good regardless my brother and better times will come for sure!

[@IZenI00]

@@rodolfosotelo5929Aye man congrats thats huge. Lost a few to the big one and hearing you say this made me wanna throw you a party🎉🎉🎉

[@gheorghecatalinapolzan8711]

The first speakers (paper cone )sounds beautiful and more natural for the midrange The other two are more suitable to crank up more bass in them My opinion

[@scottadkins918]

I agree with you, if you have a subwoofer I think the cheapest first speaker would do good filling in.

[@marcovaldovinos5009]

Same opinion

[@eddieohh6627]

Thought the same

[@tanerbetts]

i personally like the neo pro the most

[@ChrisHasbrook]

Over the mic, LCMR has more midbass SOUND, Idk about midbass FEEL or PUNCH if that makes sense. The sound gets flatter up to the VEX, LCMR is definitely the brightest. Once adjusted, clearly the VEX had the most bass

[@davidcobra1735]

Why are you even talking about bass when they're midrange drivers? And as far as I'm concerned the LCMR one is the only one even worth considering if you ignore the silly fictional specifications on the box.

[@ChrisHasbrook]

If bass isn't something worth talking about in THIS video, the VEX is irrelevant seeing as how Derrick swapped settings to enhance where it shines...in the bass frequencies. I currently have a NeoPro 6.5 in each door and a BT-R1 in the dash off a SAX-125.4. IMO, you could run a damn good sound stage using the VEX for lowend, NeoPro for mid, and a tweet for highs. The LCMR seems more suitable for a higher quantity setup with a few tweets because it's already brighter. Just my opinion

[@davidcobra1735]

@@ChrisHasbrook [Guess I have way too much free time again.] I'm sorry man but nothing you're saying even makes any sense to me. First of all the drivers in the video are pretty much all crap. You can tell that just by looking at them and by seeing the silly specs on the boxes, which like I already said are probably almost entirely fictional anyway. Unfortunately this is very common for car grade audio gear. The buyers typically know very little or nothing about audio gear and want to spend as little money as possible. The other reason is that it's impossible to get anything close to hi-fi quality in a car anyway because of the shape of the cabin. Now back to the topic of bass and everything. All of the drivers presented are supposedly (exclusively?) midrange drivers. It's mentioned over and over again. That means they're designed to play frequencies between ~500hz-5000hz (depends on who you ask). That's basically impossible given their size, they're 8 inches in diameter (or about 20cm). A driver of that size gets cone breakup (terrible sound quality) above around 1500hz and pretty much no sound above around 3000hz or so and that's just a physics thing that you can't overcome. Even if you get a tweeter with a low 2000hz crossover frequency (and I'm ignoring that car audio crossovers are very commonly cheap 1st order ones not 2nd order solutions) you're still going to get below average sound quality in the critical 1khz-2khz band even by car audio standards. Real midrange drivers are 3 to 5 inches for a damn good reason. Then there's the silly specs on box 1 that really amuse me because of oh so many reasons: Dual voice coil - What for? That's only useful for car subwoofers (if even that) and those are in no way drivers for a subwoofer. The surround isn't even rubber or maybe foam, the membranes probably have at best an 8th of an inch of travel. That's I think about 3.5mm for non Americans. Recommended frequency range 100hz-6khz - Ahahaha!!! Wait so they're mid-bass drivers now? I thought they were for the midrange band. Why does he keep calling them midranges then? Perhaps this is just a language thing. Most of us non car audio people call drivers by the name of the frequency band that they're supposedly good at reproducing. That's maybe about a 250hz-2500hz (crossover included) driver just by the looks of it. Then again who knows maybe car audio gear has already surpassed my wildest dreams and expectations. I highly doubt it but who knows. 100W RMS Power - Is that supposedly Max or Continuous? I'll bet my leg that's Max, it pretty much always is for car audio gear. So how much is continuous 50-60W? Who knows, guess we'll just have to guess then! And remember that's at 1khz, that's like an old telephone busy line tone. When you put bass into them they can maybe take 10-15W. He even mentioned that he had to use a "subsonic filter" setting on the amplifier, basically a low frequency high-pass filter to cut the bass going to them otherwise they distorted the sound a lot. What if you don't have that on your amplifier? Look any serious manufacturer would just be honest and say something like 50w Continuous Power Rating, Usable Frequency 250hz-3000hz but this is car audio so I guess that isn't to be expected here. 94db/W sensitivity - Well at least that's good. I knew they were car grade the second I saw that. The terrible materials and build quality were a pretty strong hint too. Now I tried looking up this driver online and this company that I've never even heard of to be completely honest with you and I couldn't find more information about this driver but I did find another (supposedly) higher quality one and I even found a response chart included. WOW! I know crazy stuff. Now the part that baffles me is the part where they show an average response of about 102db. How is that possible? That can't be at the standard TS value of 1W so are they showing response at max continuous power? What THD? Couldn't read any of the small text cause it was all blurry. Response fell of the cliff under 160hz though, as I would have expected. Who does that? Who shows response at high power? I could write for another hour just how silly this video and the products showcased are to me but I have to start wrapping it up. I just feel the need to point a couple of other things out though: Showcasing a driver's quality through a recording is impossible. What is he even recording with a phone or maybe some camcorder type thing? The microphones in those only pick up between maybe 100hz-3000hz. Then there's the matter of the drivers not being mounted on the correct enclosures or on a very wide baffle (big wooden board). You're just going to get cancellation at all sorts of frequencies because of anti-phase problems cause by the driver's rear pressure wave reflecting off of the table and around the room. The defence is that all the drivers are being affected and you can still do some kind of side by side comparison but that's not even true, they'd all have to be in the exact same position on the table for that, not side by side. The drivers are at different distances from the side walls so you're getting cancellation at different frequencies. Then he does the recording off-axis; meaning he doesn't put the microphone right in front of the drivers or above them in this case. Why? You always want to be on axis with any kind of measurement or recording. Now I suppose the defence would be that in your car you're going to be hearing some reflections of off-axis sound anyway so who cares. Well OK but is this video supposed to be about demonstrating which of those drivers has better off-axis sound reproduction cause it's clearly the cheap model and that one has the much wider sound band too so like I said in my initial post that's the only decent option to me. And at least it's cheap! That could be entirely wrong though, the other models could be way better if you listened to them at the right angle. On-axis reflections might reach you too in the car if you're in say the driver's seat. Here they're being attenuated by the high ceiling. This weird and incredibly flawed listening test is actually telling you almost nothing about the real sound of these drivers. Your man in the video at least seems to understand that what he's doing here is actually incredibly stupid but he then does it anyway... I could go on and on but look I'll just say one last thing. Why would anyone even want to buy something like this? Why wouldn't you just buy some old 4 ohm midrange drivers from eBay and stick them in your car? There are plenty of them out there from broken speakers. Typically people damage the bass drivers or maybe the twitter with an old defective amplifier. I'm guilty of the latter one too. Sometimes the capacitors in the crossovers go bad and people don't understand that you're supposed to replace them once in a while. They then try to get rid of their old (good quality) speakers. Just get some of those! It'll cost you maybe $25 for a pair of decent, perfectly usable, actual midrange drivers. Just use glue to mount them if you can't find some small screws and nuts. You can even make DIY masks out of some plastic plates and some mesh. Typically car drivers are nice because they have snap-in metal mesh masks and things like that and because of the high sensitivity. None of the drivers in the video seem to even have masks anyway. Just get some high sensitivity home audio grade drivers (typically 89-90db/W), a decent car amplifier and for bass you basically want a big bass tube in your trunk. Save your money for that, you'll be much better off IMHO. Anyway I GTG. [Guess I have way too much free time again.]

[@ChrisHasbrook]

@@davidcobra1735 Are you comparing car audio to what, home audio? Why would you do that, even by your own words? IMO, the 1st 2 are midrange, VEX is mid bass. IMO, it wouldn't make much sense to use them in a large build as the woofers are doing what you would want the VEX's to do, lowend. Like I said, they would be best in a situation like Derrick has them or a build less focused on subs. Is the video truly showing the output of each? Obviously according to the author, no. But you can clearly tell a difference between all 3 and come to your own conclusions. If you hate car audio gear, which it clearly sounds like you do, why are you watching a video of it? Bass tube? Like from Circuit City lol? NONE of these are SQ whatsoever, never advertised as such either. PRO AUDIO, meaning loud is 1st priority. You really sound like you're overthinking all with conflating a bunch of theories together making a judgement that's has nothing to do with the video, the product, or the hobby of car audio. I'm going to assume you simply hate loud music, and are purely a SQ guy? Just a lot of hate for something this small

[@SATANALEX9]

That neo pro has perfect mid bass and mid range that’s my pick and the mounting options are incomparable.

[@tcb955]

All day

[@desmondsimon9320]

I'm with you on that one the pro all the way

[@zapcodeknock4503]

Would u guys pick 2 SKAR audio speakers and 2 sundown or all 4 sundown speakers? I have stock everything in my pickup and wanted a budget upgrade for the truck with new head unit. No subs, i live in town with faulty door lock. Want to upgrade soon

[@jashaejoseph3752]

@@zapcodeknock4503all sundown. I did 2 6.5” lcmr for the front (dash) speakers and did 8” neo pro v3 for the back ( jeep wrangler soundbar). Also have 4 tweeters and a resilient sounds 10inch sub for the other frequencies?

[@donaldnelson976]

Nice test..i'd choose the cone on the left..the $40.00 one, it has a fuller sound to me

[@russelllopez4171]

I might be overthinking this one, but is there a possibility that the mic has a directional pattern on it? I ask because the middle speaker had the most voice to it. It could be coincidental, but might be mic placement. would be nice to hear when speaker position is changed from outside to centre.

[@PghMtbRides]

Dont think the vex will fit in the doors with that depth

[@Arenhammer]

Watching these vids are my version of NFL Sundays🎉

[@MrHouston314]

Neo pro v.3 ftw!!

[@MichaelAskew-qy5iu]

Man, great review!!! I'm just now seeing this in 2024 but still very relevant today. Think I'm going to add a set of vex 10's in their own little sealed enclosure, behind my seats. Thinking it would add that punchy, tight bass from a kick drum. My zv6's for lower hz, and these for those low mids that the Uv2 really shines on. But once you go zv6 or bigger, can't look back! Thanks for the video buddy!

[@MyBlowncobra]

The motor on the vex reminds me of the old sd3...great looking and sounding..nice job

[@barrettalen]

I was thinking the exact same thing. Looks pretty similar to the SD3

[@stargazer724724]

Great video, been looking for a test on those! Working on an all Sundown system for my store demo. Doors will have neo8 and neo6 and btr-1. All powered off a sdx-100.4.

[@kevinAuman1]

Glad to see ya back at it brother!!!

[@dilbeckskate]

Sick video , in person you can feel the difference in the floor literally. Glad it picked up well on camera

[@tjklatt9895]

The neo pro definitely sounded the crispiest imho.

[@r748spx]

Derrick what amp you using on your side by side to run your 4 vex? What you using for the highs?

[@UnofficialAudio]

Sia-3500d powering four vex-8"s and an sdx-100.4 powering four bt-tweeters

[@jasonstokes3014]

Enjoyed the video 📹 everyone has different applications that neo looks to be great for smaller space for the guy who wants loud and clear but don't want to build door panels that vex tho 👀👀 did I read that box rite dual 4 👏

[@jayache3622]

Idk but through my phone I like the sound of the lcmr.. but neo is louder.. can't really tell the vex

[@Oliver-ft2fq]

Amazing speakers. You guys would benefit from making a 6x9 version of the neo pros. I had to buy 6x9s pro audio midrange from Digital Designs. I wanted to buy Sundown Neo pros but I decided to go for what my stock location originally had. Even if I could get an adapter for the 6.5 neo pro it is still a step down from a 6x9 of the same category.

[@brapbrapmafucka]

Would you personally prefer a 6x9 over 6.5 every time if space was no problem

[@dennycote6339]

On myshitty phone speaker it was a great comparison... definitely the Neo was more full that the LC. The vex seemed to trade highs for midbass. I couldn't tell if the tuning made a difference, that will prob come across on headphones...next task listen again. Would be great if there was a synth line in that track to show off the vocal range more...but it's a great track.

[@dennycote6339]

Would be great to do these tests with the drivers tilted on axis i mic and camera. 2 benefits. Less midbass cancellation and flatter on axis response. Might need to be as valid because most door speakers are played extremely far off axis.

[@AstroTundraBASS]

all have PUSH Terminals YAY !!! I like the NEOS, ESP when it comes to doors and the weight on hinges !

[@Frankiebonez337]

You really need a tweeter with the neo pro and vex. The cheap one lacks the deep midbass by far but really reaches higher, which makes sense with how they are built. Vex with some good pro audio tweeters would sound sick

[@SbassLaser]

all of these need tweeters. theyre midrange drivers. you would never want to have a system with only midrange and no tweeter for the highs.

[@syxne7419]

@@SbassLaserwhat tweeters would you recommend?

[@murdertown69]

The vex 8 is a beast! I just purchased 2 and was wondering you could help me with the tuning? What is the tuning on the vex 8? And what is the subsonic filter on them? Please and thank you!

[@rschris]

Hey man awesome display they sound amazing, hey what’s the name of that track your playing in this one it’s pretty dope!! Thank a head time. Please keep the videos coming as well! ! Thinking of going with neopros in the front doors and the heavy weight in the rear passenger doors also will pair each set with some tweeters as well . About which amp would you pair with that system by the way it’s a 2007 GMC Yukon XL.

[@SbassLaser]

Is there anywhere I can find the specs for the neopro? sundowns website only lists the power handling, nothing about the frequency response or sensitivity tho. Im curious to know how low they can effectively play

[@cigarjoe6950]

Amazing thank you for showing the difference in sound quality always on top sir

[@williemccraw2073]

I purchased a set of neo pros last year. Still have not listened to them. Still in the box. I’m building a center channel for my theater.

[@markkibbey4026]

When it comes to money i like to put money into the main sub...so for the mid i got to say for the money the neopro 8 sounds pretty good..the higher end one sounds good and has a bit more bass.tone to it i like them both but for mid i have to say its the neopro and yes the liter magnet is a plus..thanks for showing us 👍

[@davidlunsford6155]

I've been looking at 3 way component speakers. 15 VW beetle hatchback. Sa12 D2 classic. SD 1500.1 . Slams all day 👍 I am trying to get a more balanced sound, clean and not just to get a score. Would the neo set be clean and crisp on say 80's hip-hop or say Janice Joplin.

[@amanteapasionado6836]

Wasnt a whole lot of different in the 3 but I think the middle one sounded the best.

[@splaudio1]

Hey Derrick would you care to add the BPS6.5 to the mix? I have the option to go that route vs the rest you tested.

[@beegeedot]

I'm using JP284. 6.5 x2 with 8"x4 rear overhead soundbar. I'm not professional at this just a regular consumer. I was able to have LCMR and Neo Pro V4 6.5 installed and tested. Neo is much better with higher power it hit you like a little knife but with the sleeve on haha. LCMR is great for budget all around mid range with a little finger flicking bass and just call it a day haha I like it way more than my Morel Maximo 6 with great vocal but no bass. I was testing the all mighty Deaf Bonce Neo AP-M67AN it just loud the thin soundwave just slicing my ear I wouldn't stand it. The best thing about Neo Pro VS M67AN is how small it is and fit pretty much anything. Im also in testing of Deaf Bonce AP-W81A midbass and B2 Audio Rage8PWR (60hz) for my soundbar. So far B2 sound better again beating those Deaf Bonce (personal preference) surprisingly matching the Neo Pro decently. Deaf bonce hit harder in mid but B2 hit lower but with weaker hit. The overall sound stage is better with the B2 but I'm not 100% happy with it when I start cranking the B2 up more than the front and I do weather have 4 8" Neo pro V4 and just let my sub do all the work. I gona take the bullet and order the Vex 8" I just need little bit more out of the soundbar and will report back here once I got it installed. Hopefully I dont need more AMP power for the Vex 8".

[@tedtan6449]

The phaseplug really aids in offset ,low door position. The cheapest is excellent for typical install. The others are good for your doors opened.

[@DF13939]

Get a large horn, use the mid range, and a 18 sub, and a crossover with updated caps and you are good to go. Great sound!

[@hoseahanslip9190]

I need to know what speakers to use for music with singing that people actually listen to.

[@mobshipa187]

I have the neo pro v3 6.5 have 8 not hooked up yet can’t wait .I’m thinking about selling my 2 sundown saz5000 but rather not they are in great condition wish you do another amp dyno on them with all your caps at the highest voltage they can take..

[@florenceflavien3970]

lcmr sound,s like full range speakers , néo had more mids and clear mids , and big boy need morre power and hi gain, great speakers

[@easylooker]

The on on far left is gonna have a more dynamic sound since it has a phase plug. One on right is built more like like sub and thus gonna more of a mid bass. Really need to be tuned with a dsp and have a tweeter with them along with a 3 inch midrange to accurately guage how they sound

[@lilflip1820]

The neo pro and vex sounded like they wanted more power. The LCMR sounded the best I'm assuming because it's more efficient, making the most of the power you were giving it.

[@skatebunch3084]

Derrick these all sound amazing nice product i could here everything crystal clear💯

[@has4896]

Great work Sir 👏 👍 all are good good work thanks for testing 💯👏👏👏

[@Demobrosofficial]

Yea the one on the left sounds best. Maybe you need to bump up to rated power with each speaker. But they all sound great! I love my neo pros.

[@caitlynhigley2303]

happy to say my dad is the only sun down distributor in the uk

[@coltonholaway7902]

Now this has me thinking bout the lcmr 6.5 but really need some cross overs for tweets

[@UnofficialAudio]

Use a nice 4-ch amp and active crossovers

[@coltonholaway7902]

@@UnofficialAudio talking to drew about it😂 my tahoe really doesnt have much room left but think this is the route ill go for my s10 build

[@josephturner8931]

Help with the tuning on the VEX 8’s please there is no parameters or info to help me tune mine.. what’s the high and low pass filter settings? Also will a Sundown SFB 1000.4 bridged at 2ohms be overpowering them??

[@gorgonismztruth1551]

is the ZV8 out yet??

[@kdoeone]

I have a set of crossfire pro 8 inch fullrange I wonder how they stack up against these. One look just like my crossfire xt-pro.

[@miiiikee_]

the neo pros look and sound awesome

[@williemccraw2073]

The neo sounds more lively. More accurate. That is why I purchased the neo.

[@pandabear7894]

Out of curiosity. What is the frequency response of the neo pro? I’m thinking of running a pair of 6.5 and 8 in my front doors.

[@williemccraw2073]

@@pandabear7894 I would not go any lower than 80hz on the 6.5. I’m using two 6.5 as a center channel in my theater. They sound incredible and they play louder than any center channel speaker I own so I would say the sensitivity has to be around 90 or higher.

[@hifiman4562]

Can you put these in doors and record them?

[@alexegus71]

Minute 9;20 comparison starts right to left. My opinion the cheapest sounds louder and clear with less power while I can hear the more lows coming through the most expensive one I already have 2 twelves doing that job for me.

[@Pittsburgh-412]

I really believe that the vex can be much louder with a bigger amp. If it had 500w rms it would be screaming lol

[@sumdood2035]

That LCMR had alot more treble coming through. Could almost use it as a full range driver. Obviously the tradeoff is lower power handling.

[@Craneop817]

I’m having a hard time making a decision. Would it make sense to run one vex8, one Neo pro 8, and a super tweeter per door?

[@DonStevens68]

I like the sound on the first speakers myself. The third sounds to hollow to me. The middle one sounds hollow also but not as much as the third ones.

[@ericlj1979]

The neo sounds the best to me

[@NickPBGT]

I love the vex model but i went with the neopros just because you could get them in 6.5"

[@waltkearns2601]

I got a 2017 dodge ram 1500 bighorn with 2 sundown sa 10s and want to do my 4 door speakers in sundowns I have a brand new 1000 watt sundown amp that I was going hook up for my door speakers what would be the best way to go . 6x9s or 8s or something else .I have a 1000 watt class d sundown pushing my 10s.

[@zulzklsusor7538]

Mid driver are the best mid range sound for me

[@ryanjohnson1814]

I didn't see a spl, db meter. And they all seem to sound the same and loudness.

[@jeterplaysshort]

Derek thanks man think I know my rzr build now 4sa 2.75 2neo pro 6.5 4vex 8s and 2 sld 12s sam amps

[@merchantjoker46]

Can you please compare the vex-8 to the apocalypse AP-M67 AN

[@willjones6275]

I personally would stick with the Neo pro I like that sound better

[@kingdaniel3774]

Price for each plz ?

[@linccc54]

I’ll have to say neo pro ftw overall. The lcmrs are insane for the price though. Feel like the vexs are just silly. I don’t wanna have to use 300rms on one single mid (personally)

[@LILRESHW]

I really liked that Lcmr... ima look more into it for sure!

[@LILRESHW]

Especially for 40 bucks!

[@LILRESHW]

What happen? There's beef with D4S?...

[@LILRESHW]

Well I seen the 8 inch for 50 bucks too. But kinda fishy if they're deleting links 🤔.

[@LILRESHW]

Apex for 48.39 8 inch lcmr

[@jordancouncil5583]

Can you do this kind of video on the 6.5 speakers

[@hoseahanslip9190]

That's what I need. 6.5s

[@anilkumartenglikar1945]

Hello sir make video of Components U-6.5 CS pairs And Coaxial SA-6.5 CX V2 pairs I am waiting for its sir

[@xtrmbrazen6153]

Super nice!

[@branz7467]

Can u mix and match in a rack 2 VEX and 2 NEO?

[@csj9619]

There's no free lunch, there's always a trade-off. Those VEX series look like MONSTERS!

[@feliperios6213]

I would like to hear how the side by side sounds with the vex 8s cause im wondering how my car is going to sound with 8 vex 10s

[@letsgoracing78]

I like the VEX but I don't have the space in the tail gate for them I think the NEOpro's are the way I'm going to go

[@david029014]

How do these compare down4sound sfx 6.5???

[@lkjyuiop]

How do ya mount a big door speaker i bought some 8”

[@frankorobinson1540]

I dont like buying drivers unless I can read thiel spec sheet do you have this available

[@Chaseymacy]

2 is my favorite...

[@beefysghost867]

Hey Derrick When the u series components coming out

[@jacobfuller9893]

Unknown as of now. I am still refining them.

[@boogalooslav6943]

The u series subs???

[@gorgonismztruth1551]

I like the honesty though

[@randyd9414]

the vex says dual 4ohm on the box, so you can run it on 2 ohms?

[@TokingWhite]

Quick question would the vex 8s be able to handle the sundown salt 500.4

[@MickeyMishra]

Oh boy. I hate to say this. But that $40 speaker sounds better. And I don't hear any noise from it either. So in this test? I prefer the sound of the entry level Mid bass. in fact it sounds much more natural than the other two in this open air setup. This really should be no surprise. If you want a Audiophile quality Woofer? Same thing goes for the most inexpensive 12 inch woofer Sundown sells. All you need and nothing you don't. Like it or not? If you want a SOLID woofer that sound amazing? The so called "Budget" line is the way to go if Sound QUALITY not Output is your budget design goal. Happy to recommend them to anyone looking to build a fully active system. Carbon Fiber woofers do have their place. Even Pionner back in the late 70's and 80's chose it for their midrange. But to me? It seems to store energy and even ring longer then paper. the $40 model seems to have a good amount of xmax for the job. and doesn't seem to have that much mounting depth either so it seems that it would fit with little modification even in a stock location of a 6.5 woofer is usually installed. don't let the marketing or the price of the drivers fool you. You really are getting speaker drivers that punch way above their price. instead of just selling drivers that don't meet specifications as new, they often, if you look on their website, have sales on drivers that didn't meet their strict specifications and that should tell you they actually care about the products they sell to the public. many of you won't even be able to tell that some of these drivers that are in their garage sales even have any faults. That's how you know that they actually test these drivers before they leave their Factory and that should be all the reassurance you need. you're getting focal levels of performance for a fraction of the price. and you're actually getting a tested driver. in my opinion whatever Sundown sells is a bargain regardless of what you yet

[@BlackLung911]

GR8T Mid Bass on the carbon fibre Neo Pro, A good price as well. :)

[@hotrodsgarage1008]

You need all 3!

[@D1aNdOnLyNiCkx3]

Can we get more info on the neo

[@BillYam-l3v]

Crazy how the cheapest one sounds clearer and cleaner bass

[@markie1993]

Neo pros been sold out everywherr for awhile i need 4 8ohm 6.5s.

[@timjd7964]

So no vex neo?

[@macdellsaludario8185]

The first 1 is the best for me sound good for mid

[@OnlySubzz]

I got 6 of the 8 inch neo v3 rated at 200rms but what can they really handle?

[@HardKnocks160s]

Those lcmrs look like the rockville rxm mids

[@tyronedixon7404]

If y’all could create 1 speaker that would cover all 3 as far as tone.

[@tcb955]

I dont know man ,but i stick with the neo pro 8” all day,better quality and gets loud af.

[@scottwheeler2494]

Without a baffle it's really not a true test. How hard would it be to throw it into the middle of a piece of plywood?

[@MickeyMishra]

Cough Cough. Yea.

[@jdiding88]

could u link the t/s parameters for all 3 of these ?

[@kevinAuman1]

Okay okay, I see you ran them off the 1250.1 I was going to say if they were on the 200.4 then the vet still had another 100w to go but of they had 1250 on tap then you should have been able to fully power all three of them wired at 1.33ohm and why not run them on the 200.4 like most of us would on a 4ch not a mono amplifier 🤷‍♂️

[@OscarHernandez-ym4hx]

Subsonic ??

[@smokesmithb]

Anywhere I can get recones for neo pro 8 8ohm