The Majora's Mask Iceberg EXPLAINED: A Deep Dive into a Parallel World

[@Sunflower41XD]

Thanks for watching, crashing it into my face! MUSIC USED IN ORDER 00:00 The Legend of Zelda: Majora’s Mask - Clock Town First Day 01:07 The Legend of Zelda: Majora’s Mask - Clock Town Second Day 02:36 Marble Pawns - Astral Observatory / Mayor’s Meeting 03:44 The Legend of Zelda: Majora’s Mask - Song of Unhealing 06:38 The Legend of Zelda: Majora’s Mask - Termina Field 07:56 The Legend of Zelda: Majora’s Mask - Clock Tower 09:43 The Legend of Zelda: Majora’s Mask - Song of Healing 10:44 The Legend of Zelda: Majora’s Mask - Elegy of Emptiness 12:06 The Legend of Zelda: Majora’s Mask - Ghost Attack 13:01 The Legend of Zelda: Majora’s Mask - Woodfall Temple 14:18 The Legend of Zelda: Majora’s Mask - Snowhead Temple 16:05 The Legend of Zelda: Majora’s Mask - Ghost Attack 17:11 The Legend of Zelda: Majora’s Mask - Romani Ranch 19:55 The Legend of Zelda: Majora’s Mask - Happy Mask Salesman 20:45 The Legend of Zelda: Majora’s Mask - Woods of Mystery 21:59 The Legend of Zelda: Majora’s Mask - Inside a House 22:10 The Legend of Zelda: Majora’s Mask - Woods of Mystery 22:30 The Legend of Zelda: Majora’s Mask - Inside a House 23:06 The Legend of Zelda: Majora’s Mask - Woods of Mystery 24:41 The Legend of Zelda: Majora’s Mask - Stone Tower Temple Inverted 26:57 The Legend of Zelda: Majora’s Mask - Great Bay Coast 28:29 The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time - The Legend of Hyrule 30:17 The Legend of Zelda: Majora’s Mask - Great Bay Temple 33:52 The Legend of Zelda: Majora’s Mask - Last Day 35:18 The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword - Groose’s Theme 35:36 The Legend of Zelda: Majora’s Mask - Giants’ Theme 36:56 The Legend of Zelda: Majora’s Mask - Astral Observatory 37:31 Star Fox 64 - Warp 39:07 The Legend of Zelda: Majora’s Mask - The End Credits 40:19 Sunflower - Crashing It Into My Face (Clock Town New Music)

[@Hugo_Tate]

Fuck yea. Boss move. Putting all the music titles in order.

[@DexysTakumi]

Hey, what software do you use to make these random animations of characters dancing or driving a DeLorean or whatever?

[@n1nj4l1nk]

Elegy is pronounced "L eh gee" not "eh leg e".

[@JadeJuno]

About the supposed tweet about the masks: it was a post from Miiverse, actually. You can look up "Miiverse Happy Mask Salesman posts" and you'll see a long image with the whole thread of posts.

[@loganpowers3875]

I tried to contain Ben but he tied me to a chair and forced me to watch the Fred episode of Carlee, I was never the same again.

[@kidnamedfingor]

man, this game has some of the best songs in zelda like astral observatory, and even uses the best songs from ocarina of time like the lost woods theme

[@DylanM333]

agreed. and the happy mask man

[@thesquadron7571]

I always vibe to the Deku Palace theme for a solid few minutes every time I start a new play through

[@igee1605]

@@thesquadron7571 😂 banger

[@Real_Artician]

Freaking Stone Tower Temple. All these years, and that theme still gives me chills. Like... I have to sit there for a few minutes just listening to it every playthrough. It's perfect. Epic, creepy, mysterious, really couldn't be better for the dungeon, or the end of the game.

[@angel-is-alive]

the songs go hard

[@onlookerofthings6029]

I'm really surprised Aonuma's nightmares wasn't on the iceberg. The cutscene where Link was running away from the wave of Deku scrubs was exactly the same as a nightmare he had while developing Majora's Mask but what was the creepiest thing about it wasn't made by Aonuma. Another developer made the cutscene without Aonuma saying anything and he said it was exactly like a nightmare he had.

[@rachit7645]

This is some real majora's mask bullshit

[@NachoCheeseDorito-Kun]

Majora Shared Nightmares Iceberg Tier le's f*ckin' gooooooo-

[@theakiwar9118]

@@rachit7645 The fact that it is true is unsettling

[@theakiwar9118]

More unsettling is that the cutscene was revealed to him the morning after the nightmare

[@Moonbeamsandhoney]

@@theakiwar9118 I got chills reading that last comment 😂

[@Cheatscape]

In regard to the Majora balloons, I think they were made by the Bombers, those kids that run around Clock Town. They mention that they let a kid who wasn't human join their group once, and they regretted it. I think it's implied that this non-human member was Skull Kid. After everything he did, the kids grew to hate him, and made those balloons as target practice with his face on them. The balloons only appear in two placed, those being North Clock Town where a Bomber is shooting at it, and in the clubhouse/sewer outside the Astral Observatory.

[@Groucho87]

It's more than implied. The bomber leader tells tatl to tell skull kid he's out

[@Kook_604]

I always thought it was creepy that the mask salesman repeats the line "youve met with a terrible fate, havent you?" After failing to stop the moon from crashing. Maybe i just overthought it but it felt almost like foreshadowing

[@aprinnyonbreak1290]

I mean, the Happy Mask Salesman is at least PARTIALLY outside of the time loop, since he is aware that the transition from the first cycle to the rest of the game happens, in every cycle after the first one. He never tries to teach you the Song of Healing, or finds it odd that you've regained your human form. I mean, that could just be a gameplay thing, and in reality, Link has to go through the cycle 2 intro every single time, we just skip it.

[@hylianmono]

@@aprinnyonbreak1290 time doesnt exisy in the clock tower

[@Barakon]

Link’s statue has irises and pupils, unlike the ones who are confirmed to be dead, who have but blank white eyes.

[@NikkiTheViolist]

also I think Kafei and Tingle are Link's counterparts more than anything else (like Romani has two counterparts too) Tingle is what Link could have been if he didn't have the courage to move on Kafei is a contrast to how Link currently is: Link became an adult (through time travel) and is now suddenly a child again, probably feeling lost, and Kafei was an adult who suddenly became a child (through magic), feeling ashamed and lost

[@Callie_with_a_bible]

Kafei is definitely Link's version, is walk and run animation is very similar to Link's. Tatel even points out "So you're careless....you're just like my partner". Kafei is like a mirror to Link

[@NikkiTheViolist]

I always thought the 'Link is Dead' theory to be weird because like you don't go through the five stages of grief for your *own* death you go through them for someone else's death. It'd make a lot more sense if the theory was 'Navi is Dead'

[@NosferatuMonty776]

I'm not a big fan of the theory either but to be fair in a world where you are living after death I'm sure you would grieve your own lost life

[@noneotherthan508]

Somewhat pedantic, but people absolutely do go through any/all of the five stages of grief for their own deaths. In fact Kübler-Ross (the inventor of the most popular 5 stages model) initially developed it to be used for the dying individual and only later applied it to friends/family of the dying loved one.

[@josh29221]

yeah i like that take a lot better. basically because: as you said, the stages apply to other peoples' deaths, so it's specifically teaching Link to cope with the loss of someone he knows and cares about

[@chrishandsome6542]

Or maybe Zelda has passed away as she was older than him or even metaphorically their friendship died because they couldnt be friends because his royal purpose was achieved.

[@JesusJavierAmaviscaValenzuela]

Always thought that Navi knew she was going to die, fairies die after completing their purpose, like the pink ones that refill your life. Navi saved Hyrule with Link so her purpose was fullfill, that's why she flew away, she didn't want Link to see her dying.

[@generalcrab0009]

I love those random clips you use like Link crashing the car into the building and Link doing the Orange Justice. They're really funny

[@hectorlumbagoCringe]

His comedic touch is so evident and unique, easily one of the best icebergs I’ve watched, and I’ve watched too many ha ha 😂

[@AzureRoxe]

Majora's Mask music has become more nostalgic to me than even Ocarina of Time's. Majora's Mask is just so damn good.

[@alexanderchippel]

Ben Drowned is a lot like Squidward's Suicide in that a lot of people don't really give it a lot of credit because it has a lot of tropes and cliches not realizing that they were the originators of those tropes and cliches. It may not technically be the first, but Ben Drowned was the most popular and influential haunted video game creepypasta. It and Godzilla SNES are like the grandfathers of all of the other haunted game Creepypastas

[@Callie_with_a_bible]

ben Drowned is how you can turn a meh creepypasta into something incredible, like turning it into a ARG

[@aurafox1]

About the Link is Dead theory... no, Link is not dead, but I do think there are a lot of valid and interesting points to consider there. Death and grief are certainly a recurring theme throughout the game. All of your transformation masks are from characters that have died and are grieving their own deaths. The Deku Butler's son, Darmani, and Mikau. Playing the Song of Healing for each of these characters helps them to pass their troubles onto you and rest in peace. Of course, the five stages of grief are prevalent in each of the game's areas. Ultimately culminating in a fight with the evil spirit Majora. Nowhere is it implied that Link is dead. I think the one that's dead is Majora itself. Majora is in denial of its own death and lives on as a spirit by possessing its mask and seizing control of those who wear it. While possessing Skull Kid, he has fun stirring up trouble and mischief around the world of Termina, but progressively becomes more frustrated over the course of the three days, especially after everything seems to go wrong for his plan, ultimately culminating in him denouncing Skull Kid as a useless puppet. This is followed by bargaining, as represented by the masked children on the moon who demand Link to give them masks and ask him incredibly profound questions about friends, and depression, as represented by the increasingly sad tone of the children's questions and the lonely child wearing Majora's Mask at the base of the tree. Finally, acceptance comes after the final boss fight, when the evil spirit finally leaves Majora's Mask. The boss fight itself might have more symbolism within it, but for now I'll leave it as insight into Majora's character rather than trying to analyze it as a part of the theme of death. I will say, though, its voice and behavior brings to mind that of a child that might not have spent its life alone and filling that void however it can (I'm using "it" because Majora's gender is never really directly stated). I think a lot of the details surrounding Majora and its fate are left intentionally vague to keep that air of mystery that makes Majora's Mask so intriguing. I've always been on the fence about whether or not the Happy Mask Salesman disappearing during the ending was intended to imply he was some sort of aparition or ghost, or if it was just some animation limitation and they just wanted to imply he was walking away. The answer to that could leave some clues as to Majora's past. Perhaps the Happy Mask Salesman is the ghost of Majora himself and that's why the moon children all resemble him? Or, perhaps the moon children resemble him just because Majora's grown fond of the idea of becoming a mask salesman itself? This part is a little too open-ended to make any sort of definitive analysis on, but it's food for thought. So, is Link dead? Of course not, but I'm pretty confident *somebody* is. And I'm leaning toward either the Happy Mask Salesman or Majora itself. Perhaps even both?

[@somethingwitty3300]

Best interpretation I've seen

[@hectorlumbagoCringe]

Dude, c’mon

[@GreenGuywGun]

Twlight princess completely destroys the whole link is dead. Because y'know The Heroes shade

[@83Protons]

Another possible answer is that the one who died is actually Navi. She disappears without a trace after OoT and is never seen in MM. So perhaps those five stages of grief is Link coming to terms with the fact that he will never find Navi because she's gone and he's processing it in a shape he's already familiar with: travelling across the lands and saving them from evil whilst learning all kinds if things on the way. I'm sure this could be put a bit more eloquently but I hope I got my point across.

[@katherineofarrogant6370]

​@83Protons I think this is the case, especially with the end of the game. The happy mask salesman gives them a speech about loss, and then Link rides off in the sunraise back to Hyrule. Even though the final shot of the drawing on the stump was probably done by Skull Kid, I like to think Link helped him make that big smile on his face.

[@ericaj922]

Ever since I heard the theory of the areas of the game representing the five stages of grief, I thought it was more likely that Link was going through those stages of grief over losing Navi- whether she actually died or just left, it still caused him great sadness and troubled him enough to send him on the search that led to him ending up in Termina.

[@RisingJericho]

>8 foot tall pirate ladies Oh well fuck, now I DO want to live in Termina

[@NEScRETRO]

oh man, it's time! Excited for this one, Sunflower!

[@UltravioletNomad]

There's three more that really should have been on this iceberg, though they are all tied to one larger concept. 1. Happy Mask aren't just called that because of the salesman, they contain happiness, and are somewhat related to gratitude crystals/force gems. While the Transformation mask might make you think all the mask contain some kind of grief, its worth noting that they aren't considered Happy Mask, only those given as quest rewards are. This stands to reason why the Children of the moon only want the Happy Mask and refuse the transformation mask. Even the Gidbo mask, which you might assume is cursed, lacks any cursed energy and is given to you as thanks for reuniting a family. 2. Coming straight off the last one, Fierce Deity is the guardian of all of Termina. While the translation makes it seem like you and Majora are going to play cops and robbers, the Japanese text refers to you as an Oni, and the term Fierce Deity is referring to a type of vengeful god that work for the will of the people. Since we have to help all of Termina to receive the happy mask and in turn give those away, you can consider the power of the mask to be the collective will of all of Termina. 3. Buddhist imagery and enlightenment. While at first glance Majora's Mask might seem aesthetically different from every other Zelda, all Zeldas are tied strongly to themes of Shinto/Buddhism, in spite of its mostly European/fantasy appearance. As opposed to the idea that Termina and Links journey represents a specific character death and/or the stages of grief around it, the endless 3 day cycle more accurately depicts the endless cycle of rebirth, and the toil and strife of living on the mortal plane. We endeavor to solve the problems of those around us, as well as our own quest, but we reset and start again unless we defeat the corrupted violent deities. It is only by breaking the cycle of violence and playing a song to restore order that we ascend into the heavens, and if we complete all of the Happy Mask by selflessly helping others we complete the journey of the Buddha and achieve enlightenment, a power we use to break the cycle. Giving the mask away is also symbolic of giving away your possessions to remove the burden of want, another part of enlightenment. While the Buddhist thing is mostly symbolic, the Fierce Deity Mask being the combined will of the people is confirmed by an interview with Aonuma. Given this, the happy mask being a form of gratitude kind of goes against the idea of the Salesman being a nefarious character or the existence of a mask cult, as it would appear that Mask are just one of the many tools that can be used to channel either force, gratitude, or malice. As an aside, I've always hated the idea that Termina is a literal death metaphor. But for similar reasons I've slowly started to move away from the idea that its a parallel dimension of any kind. The uncomfortable consensus with a lot of theorist these days are that Termina was created by Majora's Mask and goes way after the 4th day. That has all the same disappointment of the death theories and just doesn't stand to reason why there'd be so much history and detail to the world. It also make no sense to the motives; would Majora have created the world just to fuck with Link or the Salesman, why would he destroy the same world he created, why would the time goddess be involved? As a kid I just thought of it as a weird mirror world like the dark world, and you'd think things like Lorule would have bolstered that idea but I think even that's a little much. The idea of finding counterparts I feel just takes away from the mythos of Termina, and while it may be a convenient explanation for the reused assets, its one we came up with on our own. Its never expressly stated in game that its a parallel world and only things like reviewers and the prima guide really supported the idea. Namely I'd say the biggest issue is there are lots of individuals who have no counterparts, like Zelda, or the Kokiri. There are cases like the ranch sisters who are two different versions of the same character, or the Gorman brothers who are triplets of the same character. Perhaps we can find a vague resemblance to factions; The royal family and Ikana, the sheikah and the garo, etc. but I'd really rather just look at Termina as its own place, and it make theorizing about their past civilizations potential interactions with the neighboring Hyrule and the Godesses more fun... though the moon being a god with a face might be the BIGGEST issue with that... then again it might not be the same moon... or it is in a sort of pocket dimension, or temporal bubble... just not like, a mirror one.

[@ohara1989]

I have no idea whether these are already established theories or not, but I find these very interesting, particularly the point you make about Buddhist imagery. One small idea I have relating to that is that the lonely tree inside the moon could reference the Bodhi tree, under which Buddha became enlightened. There definitely are visual similarities between the two trees, with both having a very large tree crown. Since Link receives the Fierce Deity's mask underneath the tree, perhaps the Fierce Deity could be seen as a Link who has achieved enlightenment?

[@UltravioletNomad]

@@ohara1989 I don't know about established, but they definitely aren't mine. One of the many zelda tubers did a recent video on Fierce Deity that prominently featured a breakdown of Majora from another theorist from ZU I think. Don't remember eithers names but if you search by new for Fierce Deity it might pop up. But yes, the tree was mentioned in that forum post as well, good video and good read.

[@FindingsOfAnArmouredMind]

"by selflessly helping others we complete the journey of the Buddha and *achieve enlightenment*" I think you are mistaken on your understanding of "enlightenment". No ill-will towards you, though. But I think you mean "nibbana" (nirvana for the Americans out there). Enlightenment is something else and not an achievement or an end goal of sorts.

[@FindingsOfAnArmouredMind]

Oh also. YES, it makes fucking sense for Majora to destroy Termina if he himself created it. You just brought buddhism into this, so you should research a bit more into who Mara is...

[@aprinnyonbreak1290]

So wait. Hol' up. Are you telling me that Majora's Mask has been a real Sheen Megoomi Tennis game all along?

[@gansito1o295]

I hope icebergs keep being made because I keep learning new things about my favorite games.

[@koskk_]

This game has been around so long that the Fierce Deity, Majora, and Goddess of Time being the Terminian counterparts to Link, Ganondorf, and Zelda is never talked about anymore lol It used to be a relatively common take

[@verdantmischief7092]

Well I think the death metaphors were intentional. I don't think Link died either, but the story still focuses on Death quite often that the metaphors make sense

[@DioDCynic]

You are making way too much sense, just pick a side 😅

[@Anths_art]

y'know there's actually a little plush figure of Tingle in Skyward Sword located in Zelda's dorm room. Since Skyward Sword is the origin story of The Legend of Zelda, this implies that at least the idea of Tingle has existed since the beginning of the Zelda Timeline

[@goopi_eh]

Theory: Tingle seen in all the subsequent games is actually the very same doll that Link carved in SkSw that somehow gained sentience. This is why he always so enthusiastic about Link, and why he has such a long lifespan.

[@linkie3789]

Honestly, majora's mask really is the one zelda game that can have it's own iceberg

[@AzureRoxe]

Skyward Sword being the very first in the timeline and Breath of the Wild being the very last can also have their own.

[@linkie3789]

@@AzureRoxe from how big of game botw is, i can really see itself having an iceberg, but there's no really THAT much of important topics we could bring compared to a mm iceberg, and, seriously, skyward sword, there's very little things to talk about and even less facts to argue them

[@linkthepig4219]

Botw definitely has a lot more stuff to put into an iceberg. Same with oot too (ha oottoo), although a lot of people consider mm and oot to fit into one iceberg, which I think makes the games seem a little too simple.

[@BitchChill]

Along with every other Zelda game

[@Blackprojex]

*its

[@akiba5558]

Majorasmask is also my fav zelda and i love ur iceberg vid sm i know all ur quotes by heart now!

[@JoshuaRWorkman]

I don't think Link is dead and going through the stages of grief in Majora's Mask. A series of excellent videos about the temple themes in Ocarina of Time and Majora's Mask on the channel Save Data, intentional plug, breaks them down, not only analyzing the instruments and samples used, but also the cultural inspirations of the architecture of each. The architecture of each of Termina's four temples and the instruments and sounds used in each's tracks indicate in my mind that Termina is a real world, factually parallel to Hyrule with its own history and the Skull Kid becoming possessed by the mask and all that did happen and Link did actually stop it to save the land and find his way back to Hyrule.

[@chrish8904]

Not to mention Aonuma declared the stages of grief thing wasn't intended.

[@beecees410]

twilight princess is a derict counter to this theory. the hero's shade IS that particalur link and the hero's shade doesnt strike me as a child. if he went lost in the woods and died he would "transform" into a skullkid, so even if the hero's shade was a stalfos, that would mean link was an adult when he transformed. not to mention the link in twilight princess is a direct decendantr of the hero of time. so link has survived long enough to become an adult and have kids.

[@aprinnyonbreak1290]

I think it mostly breaks down with Snowhead. There's absolutely no bargaining going on beyond what gets awkwardly forced for the theory. If it was meant to be explicit, it wouldn't be hard to set up, and wouldn't be opaque. The Great Bay being Depression is also kind of a weak one, the ENTIRE GAME is depressed, making that the "there is nothing else binding this area to any of the stages, better crack open the depression" option.

[@IDoABitOfTrollin]

@@aprinnyonbreak1290 i thought darmani was bargaining to be brought back to life to help his tribe

[@monkeysk8er33]

This is the most idiotic attempt at the disproving of a theory I've ever heard. "I don't think Link is dead, because the music makes me feel like it's real." 🤦🤦🤦 How the fuck does music have anything to do with the canonicity of the lore? The music that you hear in the over world, outside of specific cases, is just a meta video game thing. Sure there's instruments, and music playing in certain zones, in lore, but the music of something like Termina Field is entirely just a product of MM being a video game, and has nothing to do with the lore. That music isn't being blasted into the world, IN LORE. You seem to not grasp the concept of the "Link is dead" theory.

[@srna4881]

This Iceberg gonna be so amazing, this game got so many things to talk about. LETS FUCKING GOOOOOO

[@_EthanStone]

the master of icebergs is back and better than ever

[@Sunflower41XD]

B)

[@NotBrian420]

I thought Link screams because it hurts when he's putting the mask on. Because he's, well, transforming.

[@boomfanfic-a-latta8996]

I’m personally on board with the theory that Kafei is Link’s counterpart

[@Sand-Walker13]

I'd like to believe it

[@danielpurcell7203]

The child from ocarina being blessed by a god to become an adult, compared to an adult being cursed by a demon to become a child.

[@Mike419T]

@@danielpurcell7203 Love this comment

[@caracalcontinuum3118]

I genuinely don’t feel thee at t way but I respect your opinion 👍

[@totalradlad]

It just makes way too much sense

[@tiffany5438]

Yesss I'm currently watching ice berg videos again and it's great to see another ice berg video from you!

[@mat_max]

I can't blame you, man. If i had Majora's mask feeeze on me after using the elegy of emptiness while playing it on an n64 as a child i would have been scared to death for months

[@vernonroche4439]

The Happy Mask Salesman is Death. He understands wherever he goes, despair follows. So he sells masks to make people happy and offering healing to those who can't pass on. Hence why he opened a mask shop in castle town in OOT. Maybe Link died in the beginning but Death chose to save him instead. Giving him 3 days to live so he may retrieve Majora's mask. Right before Majora died, it's life-force was given to Link so that he may live.

[@julenmontes8575]

I was just looking for a zelda iceberg video for no reason and licked on this one randomly just to notice it came out today, nice content

[@Sunflower41XD]

thats some good timing, thanks for watching!

[@midnightinaperfectworld]

I think the stages of grief theory works better when you assume it's not referring to Link's literal death but the death of his childhood and the deaths of Saria and the rest of the Seven Sages.

[@XSlimSxadyX]

Very excited to dive into this. Majora’s Mask 3D was my childhood, I spent many bus rides and many hours exploring Termina.

[@renbelmont]

So crazy to hear to me, I'm glad that game could introduce a newer generation to the game because I just associate it with fucked up boss fights and less dark art style

[@XSlimSxadyX]

@@renbelmont oh yeah I’m 17 now and I’m buying majoras mask yet again HAHA

[@XSlimSxadyX]

@@renbelmont shit man I forgot to mention. I’m getting my first n64 soon haha!!

[@veliquence]

Thats awesome to hear a younger generation got to experience this game for the first time with the 3DS remake. I didnt think of it this way. I was 10 years old when this game came out on the N64 it i spent an entire summer obsessing over every nook and cranny of it. I just turned 30 this year and its one of the few games from my childhood i still revisit. I should play that 3DS remake sometime.

[@Mike419T]

Beautiful. I got this game when I was about 7. The fact I'm still alive reading comments about the younger generation playing this on the 3d version is very euphoric. Just turned 28 this month and I still love this game like crazy.

[@FindingsOfAnArmouredMind]

38:46 OH MY GOD So that's how the Arwing got into Ocarina of Time's timeline.

[@andreavasquez4355]

Whenever I see a new iceberg video from you, I get happy.

[@Sunflower41XD]

:D

[@andreavasquez4355]

@@Sunflower41XD :)

[@peach_total]

link being dead is the perfect example why a lot of game theory stuff bugs me. maybe they did base termina on the stages of grief, honestly it’s likely since a lot of the game is about loss. but that doesn’t have to have a LITERAL representation within the game itself as a Fun Twist. things can just be thematic currents through a piece of art

[@Nukestarmaster]

"Link is Dead" is a peak Matpat theory, and I mean that in the worst way possible.

[@mat_max]

You forgot to mention that The hero's shade from TP being the link of MM in stalfos form, which requires him to die in the lost woods, is also a part of why people heavily argue that link dies at the beginning of MM

[@qufanat]

The shade is grown-up though. Most people don't keep growing after they die.

[@Quaxo21]

Evil Ben: I learned how to swim

[@mushroomwings3236]

I always just kind of thought he screamed during the mask transformation because he's undergoing serious body horror. Also... 28:20 Majora: Look at me. *flips upside down* I am the god now.

[@JesusJavierAmaviscaValenzuela]

I thought it was painfull that transformation

[@Callie_with_a_bible]

@@JesusJavierAmaviscaValenzuela That's possibly, Link has to change his atanomy on a structural, muscle and bone level to change into these races. It's definitely going to be painful to change into said races in mere seconds.

[@Foxplayer091]

I swear your sense of humor takes away anything scary about this game

[@hectorlumbagoCringe]

Cry about it

[@Foxplayer091]

@@hectorlumbagoCringe I WILL CRY... Of how much the video makes me laugh

[@mistysheppard7254]

It made me less afraid of playing MM at night lol

[@wi11ow8]

My favorite zelda game? And an iceberg? Man you just got yourself a sub!

[@Sunflower41XD]

Hell yeah B)

[@benamisai-kham5892]

So hype to watch this, my favorite legend of Zelda game!

[@madisonfreedman4150]

Yes! A new iceberg video! And it’s a Zelda one!!!!

[@AlconaSD]

for my birthday this year, a bunch of my freinds picked up an N64 and a couple games as a gift for me. one of them being majora's mask. now i was stunned as soon as i saw the gift, but when i booted up the MM cartridge, there was already a save file under the name "Ben". this sent chills down my spine, and when i asked they said they had picked it up from a garage sale. later they let me know they were messing with me, but seeing that save file is a moment i will never forget

[@mfw4912]

idea: star fox entering the zelda universe explains the arwing in ocarina of time

[@Monika-fu6oj]

Your voice never gets old!

[@NachoCheeseDorito-Kun]

Yeah, Link being dead doesn't really make sense since that clashes with the Hero's Shade(my boi) being an adult or Stalfos, depending on interpretation. If adult, he died years later, if a Stalfos, it means he got lost in the Lost Woods and literally _never_ died. He just managed to maintain his sanity as a Stalfos(or maybe the Hero of Twilight awakening snapped him back to reality.) If anything, the five stages represent Termina itself. Its current, ambiguous situation, alongside its name and status as a land forsaken by the Goddesses can point to this.

[@Callie_with_a_bible]

I think he lost his life during a battle, and became a restless spirit forced to watch Hyrule fall to the Twili. The Hero of Shade wears armour and is covered in vegetation and is missing an eye, the vegetation suggests his body was never found which further supports my theory.

[@k.i.l.l.a.c.a.m3531]

Drink hot sauce each time sunflower says spooky

[@Sunflower41XD]

Don't blame me if you have to be taken to hospital 😔

[@jackbutler-]

Great video, the of your content is honestly getting better and better with every video this video is great 👍

[@orochi_08]

"8 foot tall pirate ladies" Someone I know would like that...

[@UFereSanyo]

This Scares me, this was the first Zelda game I ever touched and Since I didn't know any of English, i couldn't progress, but the few I saw from it, it scared me. As always, good video, hope for the next one.

[@mortonic2019]

you should try playing it again. its amazing,I have played it at least 8 times.

[@AlexNeon97]

Man I really enjoy these Zelda videos, and something about hearing you narrate them is relaxing!

[@Sunflower41XD]

nice to hear you enjoy them :D

[@Matthewtopia]

Yea the relaxing link default dancing 😂

[@iitsmeromii]

YESSSSSSS THIS IS A CHRISTMAS GIFT ISTG

[@FKDart]

Yoooooooo! I was just watching your Splatoon Iceburg when I saw you uploaded this love your iceburg video they're the ones I watch the most.

[@Sunflower41XD]

Thanks for the support :D

[@ch3rry833]

If it can help you feel better: I started playing Majora's Mask because I thought Ben Drowned and all of that stuff was real. I was a bit disappointed as a kid when I realized the game was less creepier than this (I recognize it's not a joyful game tho). I still consider this as the best entry of the series, I love it

[@smaaron_j_46]

I had no idea of Cremia and Anju's slight relationship, that's cool.

[@schlankeschlangemitlanze2467]

Didnt know about the star thing and man thats cool, I appreciate small things like that in games

[@arcticdino1650]

I love Majora's Mask, it's definitely one of my favorite Zelda games. Not a fan of the fan theories that try and claim Termina was never real *cough Hyrule Encyclopedia My favorite Zelda game is A Link Between Worlds, especially with the secret old man Link boss. Also, Milk might be alcoholic in Hyrule (and other worlds) as well (or at least used in alcohol. There is a milk bar in both Hyrule and Lorule in a Link Between Worlds, and a Tavern that serves milk in Phantom Hourglass, however the wikis aren't exactly helpful in showing any relevant dialogue, and my old 3ds is in a box somewhere so I can't really verify if it's implied to be alcoholic Edit: Here's something weird in Termina: in the stone tower temple you enter the boss arena through a portal in the floor that was previously just a hole in the ceiling. So, where does the Twinmold fight take place?

[@somethingwitty3300]

Except Termina isn't real..

[@jelly_4_brainz]

@@somethingwitty3300 proof that it isnt real?

[@Callie_with_a_bible]

@@jelly_4_brainz The Lost Woods could contain portals to othher timelines Or Termina could be a "personalized world" created by the lost woods that uses Link's memories of people he's met to create a new world. The strangest part is that some characters lack counterparts, like any of the Kokori, Impa or Zelda.

[@RipplyAnemone67]

The fact the flat woods monster is in the game it would of been neat if in the cinematic of the moon crashing or before entering termina if we saw another cryptid. One from the same state of West Virginia. I’m talking about mothman baby, yeah. I mean imagine him on top of the tunnel or flying around. The whole shtick of his is that he appears before disaster. I mean the silver bridge originally and then the Chicago sightings and the flood that same year. He’ll mothman has been around the world apparently there’s some cryptid in Germany that was above a mine before it collapsed and it looked like mothman. And then the black bird of Chernobyl there before the meltdown and it has the same description. Apparently it was in Japan before/on the day of the earthquake, tsunami, nuclear meltdown disaster. Just imagine mothman at the beginning to warn of the imminent disaster.

[@mixtapem8536]

Keep up the great work Sunflower,love these iceberg videos,they are so cozy

[@Sunflower41XD]

That's nice to hear, thanks :D

[@PatrickGilland]

On the topic of the asteroid with a face in Star Fox, the guy who did the character art for Star Fox also did the character art for Majora's Mask and F-Zero

[@tylleulenspiegel]

I do like the idea of the different areas being different stages of grieving, but Link doesn't have to be dead for that to still be true. There's a LOT of things to grieve!

[@gravitationalforce3258]

Ben drowned terrified me as a 7 year old so bad that I quit playing majoras mask then i went back and finished it after around 5 months

[@mistysheppard7254]

The outro is so goofy and hilarious that I returned only to listen to it 😭

[@pundertalefan4391]

XD "the Happy Mask Salesman is dead." "Good."

[@khronoscythe]

0:59 "BUT, and this is a BIG BUT" Okay, let that slide.

[@CaptainSchmo]

Great analysis, mate! MM is one of my favorite games

[@mmmmBEEPmmmmBEEPmmmmBEEPmmmmmm]

one word: awesome

[@take2filmproduktion333]

Watched all Majoras Mask iceberg Videos so far. I don‘t even know why. But i won‘t stop at this point. :D So thanks very much for all the new facts my Brain can waste capacity from. ;)

[@Sunflower41XD]

ayy thanks for including my video in the list of videos you've watched :D

[@LlamaOccident]

Yup, mine was definitely personalized. The mission to get the butler’s mask broke during the race and I couldn’t get it to do the race again. It just acted like I completed it but no mask.

[@redbokoblin1937]

Yay new video from my favorite channel

[@scourgescourge4202]

I don’t think link died during the game. However I believe he died at the end though because In twilight princess with the hero shade. The stealphos in that game that teaches you techniques is the hero of time. He says that in the game. So I believe he got lost in the lost woods died and became a stealphos. And waited years to pass on to find the new hero to teach them how to succeed where he could not.

[@sonidash216]

Elekey? ELEKEY?!? It's Elegy. EleGEE! EleJesus Mah Boi.

[@Sunflower41XD]

Eleoopsie doopsey

[@sonidash216]

@@Sunflower41XD After you scrubbed all the floors in Hyrule then we can talk about mercy Mah Boi.

[@nearmart7208]

Couldn't play Majora's Mask for a while after knowing about the Ben Drowned (at the time [for most people] creepypasta). Me being alone in my dark room while playing the supposed spooky statue spirit game didn't help. Nowadays I really enjoy the game and have more maturity and knowledge to ignore Ben Drowned content's relationship with Majora's Mask while playing the game. Even played with the cheats used in the video.

[@milk_yt]

The grief theory doesn't state that Link is dead, it just says the stages were used as inspiration for the game.

[@addisonberry5057]

you’re telling me ben drowned has been UPDATED????? that’s all i needed to hear 😤 time to revert to my middle school self

[@treetopterra7453]

Isn't Kafei supposed to be Link's counterpart? He's got purple hair like Link's other counterpart: Ravio, he is the only character to experience time travel to the point where it alters his body, and he's the only other character that you can actually take control of during the Sun's Mask quest.

[@tomdekler9280]

No one is Link's counterpart, and no one is Kafei's. They have similarities, sure, they were built from the same character rig after all to cut down on animations for the parts where you control him, but storywise Kafei is just one of many characters that emblemize the game's central themes of severed relationships and arrested development. To say Kafei is THE counterpart is to ignore the parallels to Skull Kid, an immortal child from the forest dealing with abandonment issues from his friends; Tingle, a manchild unable to cope with his lack of a fairy; and pretty much ALL characters dealing with a strained relationship and/or an inability to move on.

[@brettshrekington]

“Sarkon deez nutz” earned my subscription. 😂

[@Muffled_voice]

Ah I love listening too these when I draw.

[@Sunflower41XD]

Thanks for listening/watching!

[@linkkokiran7298]

I've had things from ben drowned happen to me during a time I was doing fierce deity glitches... like I've had the elgy of emptiness statue follow me and I've also randomly burst into fire and game overed

[@forrestpatterson6053]

I subscribed immediately after “dabbed on his grave”.

[@tylertorres3773]

The majoras mask/ ocarina time days were the best hands down best in the series

[@alexanderchippel]

There is a theme of grief and the stages of it, but that doesn't mean that Link is dead.

[@TheKitty699]

here we go again

[@tourguideplays5477]

Here after the oot iceberg deep dive :)

[@Sunflower41XD]

YOOOO WELCOME

[@hiddenking8087]

Crashing It Into My Face To the tune of "Clock Town Theme" from The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask (Sun Song) Here we go- Got ur girl's titties in my hands Her pants are down, I'm boutta embrace Cheeks are huge, well I'll be damned Crashing it into my face Termina may as well be doomed Ass so big that time will displace Clap them hard, the sound boomed Crashing it into my face The final hours are coming soon Turn it up! let's hear the bass I'm gonna be eating a moon Crashing it into my face Mouth wide open, here it comes Time to devour, that is the case Remember to also eat up the crumbs Crashing it into my face (Link screaming)

[@Sunflower41XD]

Lyrics not even the gods mutter

[@beef20200]

I played majora s mask and it was creepy. But i realy loved it.

[@mistysheppard7254]

All the "kiss" parts got me losing it 😭😭

[@23mustang32]

It’s funny because as a kid even if you knew Ben Drowned wasn’t real and he couldn’t hurt you, it still couldn’t stop it from being super creepy and unsettling especially when watching the creepy pastas at night hahaha

[@23mustang32]

Commenting again cause Sakon deez nuts lmaooo

[@anonsfunfactory6993]

"Termina. The Place of The End. The Ever-present Death." Who is to say, here on our earth, our souls are not already dead?

[@nug9g]

11:32 something about the way you described link's shell freaked me the fuck out, i dont know why

[@erikofthevikings5535]

Sakon these nuts never gets old, even though you already made that joke in your previous Zelda iceberg. It was funny there, and it's funnier here.

[@ItsCatrissa]

Thank you so much for this! I enjoyed your commentary on this. If you are considering doing more Legend of Zelda's iceberg videos, please consider Twilight Princess.

[@roffynm]

The iceberg saga continues

[@hideyour3yes]

When I bought my copy of MM3D I got it second hand, and when I booted it up there was a save file called “Hamish” on it, I was skeptical about deleting it incase started getting haunted by a ghost named Hamish who drowned

[@makaan1932]

Just imagine - Majoras Mask with twice the content - how cool would that be!

[@One_of_Many750]

Stone Tower Temple’s Music, And Ikana’s Variation of Termina Field’s Overworld Theme. 👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾

[@jakehallgren4288]

i really enjoy watching stuff like this then doing another play through of the game. makes it feel like a whole new game.

[@pastpatour]

Im with you man, I despise this endless trend of death/coma/dream/purgatory theories, they're so cliched, juvenile and low effort. #LinkIsNotDead

[@Sunflower41XD]

Plus you can apply a theory like that to any piece of media, it's too easy to do so and sort of kills story plot points and character choices.

[@Callie_with_a_bible]

The theory that the entire game of Majora's Mask is Link coming to terms with Navi's Death is better 100% than the Link is dead theory It makes since, completely, as fairies die after they complete their purpose. Since Navi helped Link save Hyrule, it's likely she flew away because she didn't want Link to see her die.

[@piratetape]

A point about the Tower of Babel theory: assuming it's true, when the goddess' flipped the tower they didn't ascend above them or the giants, and for them to continue to build would essentially be to build towards hell (whatever that is in the Zelda franchise). Also, the blocks with their tongue sticking out have the Triforce underneath them, which you see when you flip the temple, basically holding them over their genitals. If not that explicitly, it's certainly a sign of disrespect towards the goddess'. I definitely believe that whatever was going on in the Ikana Kingdom, it was in opposition to the goddess'.