Why Epic Meal Time (Eventually) Failed

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SunnyV2

SunnyV2

Күн бұрын

At one point in time, Epic Meal Time was receiving millions of views an episode, these days, their video's average around 50,000 views each. Harley Morenstein and the Epic Meal Time channel were a powerhouse peaking as KZbin's 9th most subscribed channel, a title that feels like a distant memory after a slow downfall lasting approximately 10 years. This video will explain why Epic Meal Time's career died.
This is, Why Epic Meal Time (Eventually) Failed.
Thank you guys for watching, like and sub if you enjoyed, SunnyV2 XO ❤

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@epicmealtime
@epicmealtime 2 жыл бұрын
Been watching this channel for ages. Always wondered if we would get one! You did a great job and it was accurate too! I really enjoyed watching this.
@lailaelkatib3838
@lailaelkatib3838 2 жыл бұрын
Lol
@Erreul
@Erreul 2 жыл бұрын
Hope your doing good Har.
@evzyl8409
@evzyl8409 2 жыл бұрын
i hope u do drake colab
@DumDum-zj6gm
@DumDum-zj6gm 2 жыл бұрын
Give bobux?
@gaogaigarfinal6
@gaogaigarfinal6 2 жыл бұрын
Holy shit 🐐
@TrackpadProductions
@TrackpadProductions 2 жыл бұрын
I have to admit; hearing someone describe the early 2010s as "the early days of youtube" makes me feel so, _so_ old.
@waitforit45
@waitforit45 2 жыл бұрын
I know right?! I remember it being 2008 and I wanted to start my own beauty KZbin channel but I didn't because I felt it was 'too late' and there were already too many on the platform. Lol
@sploompdoomper
@sploompdoomper 2 жыл бұрын
@@waitforit45 I know exactly what you mean!! It's like every year that passes that feeling gets more intense , I've completely let go of that idea but I still feel it
@13nohead
@13nohead 2 жыл бұрын
Truth
@neoasura
@neoasura 2 жыл бұрын
Watching the way things were as a culture in 2010 makes me feel old, you couldn't get away with half of that stuff nowadays.
@yebii_
@yebii_ 2 жыл бұрын
@@waitforit45 You still can! If it wasn't late then, it sure isn't now lol
@PhantomSavage
@PhantomSavage 2 жыл бұрын
TL;DR: They basically kept making food abominations until there were no more abominations left to create. "When Alexander saw the breadth of his domain, he wept, for there were no more worlds to conquer."
@zeriel9148
@zeriel9148 2 жыл бұрын
I dunno, I always felt where it fell off was not the food but the guys involved. When they shed the first crew it just didn't feel the same.
@patsk8872
@patsk8872 2 жыл бұрын
No
@Infernos94
@Infernos94 2 жыл бұрын
No
@tokugawahisaka07
@tokugawahisaka07 2 жыл бұрын
Wrong, Jesus wept for there were no more worlds left to conquer.
@buttface9434
@buttface9434 2 жыл бұрын
yeah it was a disgusting waste of food. glad its over.
@captainthrall
@captainthrall Жыл бұрын
"watch me eat 45 strips of bacon!" is entertaining for about 3 minutes, and this guy made it work for 10 years. Honestly, hats-off to him. That's amazing.
@pauliusgecas472
@pauliusgecas472 9 ай бұрын
indeed!
@healthyb-fu5zd
@healthyb-fu5zd 7 ай бұрын
Nah. This jewish guy swindled his friends. He's not a good human.
@jacquestube
@jacquestube 3 ай бұрын
Yeah but let's let's ask this would it have been successful if it came out now? There were a lot less options back then. I came across Epic Meal Time on some weird channel on my Roku back when Roku didn't have a lot of options
@jacquestube
@jacquestube 3 ай бұрын
@blackout.ghost718 LOL you're running interference for an overhyped pile of shit and you're calling me the kid
@phantasticpanda2535
@phantasticpanda2535 Ай бұрын
@@pauliusgecas472there’s literally mukbang videos of people eating obscene amounts of food. If anything epic meal time was the first before it was a genre.
@نونيم-ي4ح
@نونيم-ي4ح 2 жыл бұрын
"business just got in the way of it being fun" this literally describes modern youtube videos compared to how it was when it started.
@jazzew
@jazzew 2 жыл бұрын
I sure have seen it plenty! :( It used to feel like such a different place, detached from the rest of life and loads of fun. How I miss it.
@ruminationstation4200
@ruminationstation4200 2 жыл бұрын
Except it underestimates how bad it's gotten. Now it's devolved to the point where it's like "business is actively getting in the way of me having a semblance of mental health, buuuut based on the last views on my vids I think I'm about to blow up, so hopefully it will be worth it"
@LighTsHunTerz
@LighTsHunTerz 2 жыл бұрын
Bs argument .. only immature ppl talk like that ... What u discover when u grow up is not to always have "fun" especially in bussiness .
@xentixs
@xentixs 2 жыл бұрын
true
@GeeeTii
@GeeeTii 2 жыл бұрын
@@LighTsHunTerz Bs argument .. only immature ppl reply like this
@molseren
@molseren 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like we set youtubers to higher standards than other mediums. Epic Meal Time didn't fail, it had a run longer than most tv shows, and many many more viewers. It was a gigantic success. I think its cause we see KZbin channels as people rather than seeing them like shows.
@xsteveconwayx
@xsteveconwayx 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent point. It lasted longer and was more successful than “Firefly” and “Freaks and Geeks” combined. The difference between KZbin and television is that there aren’t network executives willing to cancel a KZbin channel if the views dip 5%.
@kvltizt
@kvltizt 2 жыл бұрын
Well said
@biancat7761
@biancat7761 2 жыл бұрын
I mean... TV & movies have very strict labour talent laws, advertising restrictions, language restrictions, laws surrounding children (audience & actors) There is also the fact that not everyone can be in or create a show or movie. Massive funding is needed. So I think we hold the people behind the KZbin channel to higher standard, not everything else
@robmisaku5367
@robmisaku5367 2 жыл бұрын
@@biancat7761 You seem smart.
@metaliklash9515
@metaliklash9515 2 жыл бұрын
this man is as smart as me...
@andrewmitra2899
@andrewmitra2899 2 жыл бұрын
This basically describes the difference between early 2010 youtube and late 2010 youtube, it shifted from fun videos with friends to businesses. It’s still entertaining but just isn’t the same
@vip5hawol-deehirota
@vip5hawol-deehirota 2 жыл бұрын
exactly what i’ve been feeling for a long while there’s definitely a lack of authenticity kids are now growing up with dreams of using youtube (and other sns) as a job. its crazy to think about
@DemraSynfata
@DemraSynfata 2 жыл бұрын
god I'm so glad to see other people that feel the same.
@augunkarlsen5901
@augunkarlsen5901 2 жыл бұрын
@@DemraSynfata word \
@acidreflex25
@acidreflex25 2 жыл бұрын
100% - Back then, there was no obsession with pleasing a dubious "algorithm". Epic Meal Time just happened to be a channel that put out videos people would watch for the full ten minutes. At some point, that became the standard, *everyone's* videos were suddenly ten minutes long even if they didn't need to be. Shoot, it got so bad I remember some creators inserting 2 or 3 minutes of still images to pad their videos and make them last ten minutes. This new standard ended up killing every channel that couldn't repeatedly pump out 10+ minute videos on a frequent basis. Bye bye sketch channels, animation channels, music channels, etc. and hello hordes of shitty vloggers. That's just the whole ten minute thing too. Add in the click bait thumbnails, misleading titles, sponsored ad placements on top of unskippable KZbin ads and nowadays it just feels like we're watching a shitty, outsourced version of reality TV.
@blastofo
@blastofo 2 жыл бұрын
I remember when youtube first came out, people got youtube famous just from making a rant on webcam. Like boh3m3. The bar was set very low.
@r.blackford9739
@r.blackford9739 Жыл бұрын
Credit to him where credit is due. A lot of these huge creators that decline go off the rails and become massively bitter but this guy seems to be very humble and relaxed about it. Good for him!
@falcon8105
@falcon8105 Жыл бұрын
I obviously didn't watch EMT when it aired around in the good old days but my friends did talk about it a lot and when I watched one of his videos in 2012, I can see that he was a genuine. His "downfall" isn't as terrible as most KZbinrs on here, it's just times were changing and he couldn't keep up. I respect him for keeping everything calm and collective
@AnkitBhatiaat
@AnkitBhatiaat Жыл бұрын
@@falcon8105 dude sold out his friends who helped make the channel.
@ludwigvonsowell5347
@ludwigvonsowell5347 11 ай бұрын
Likely made a good chunk of cash from the good old days, and the smaller channel at 30k average views isn’t horrible compared to most creators. And likely still pays halfway decent. He ended with a very humble yet substantial amount of money.
@Killa1949
@Killa1949 2 жыл бұрын
Epic Meal Time wasn't a failure, all good things eventually come to an end and EMT ran its course. There's nothing wrong with that. I don't know a single person who didn't love EMT.
@sengon344
@sengon344 2 жыл бұрын
Cap Pewdiepie has been doing the same shit everysingle day for the past trillion years. Harley was just stubborn thinking he can continue making the same videos without the main people who made it fun. There is no value in a million dollars if you remove all the zero's. The same would happen with mrbeast if he started doing videos solo with out the main people
@YouveBeenBlitzed
@YouveBeenBlitzed 2 жыл бұрын
Hah, *emt*
@tobikiser3930
@tobikiser3930 2 жыл бұрын
What's EMT
@YouveBeenBlitzed
@YouveBeenBlitzed 2 жыл бұрын
Emergency Service Technician
@tobikiser3930
@tobikiser3930 2 жыл бұрын
@@YouveBeenBlitzed thank you!
@BarryBruh
@BarryBruh 2 жыл бұрын
Nowadays we have Nick Avocado trying to eat an entire beached whale
@grobterm
@grobterm 2 жыл бұрын
among us
@driftshirofc9463
@driftshirofc9463 2 жыл бұрын
Didn't expect u to be here lemon
@BrisonVids
@BrisonVids 2 жыл бұрын
sounds like cannibalism to me
@EvenWaysMusic
@EvenWaysMusic 2 жыл бұрын
Don't talk about your mom like that
@justhennini4768
@justhennini4768 2 жыл бұрын
ohhhhhhh i thought he iiiis the beached whale xD
@tomiwaaina5499
@tomiwaaina5499 2 жыл бұрын
Harley needs to understand that his personality was a big part of it. He can do other things that aren't food related and people will watch
@Nelis1324
@Nelis1324 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly, the guy could have easily branched out into being a comedian or film and television actor.
@Dakarn
@Dakarn 2 жыл бұрын
@@Nelis1324 Do a skit based show as Harley's super serious character in the style of "Terry Tate: Office Linebacker."
@bencastor9207
@bencastor9207 2 жыл бұрын
@@Dakarn thanks, now I need to rewatch Office Linebacker.
@Lumpz4k
@Lumpz4k 2 жыл бұрын
Funny thing is he does do other things that arent food related. People watch but probably not as many as you would think. Alot of people dont know he streams for example.
@Dakarn
@Dakarn 2 жыл бұрын
@@bencastor9207 "That's a long distance call, DOUG!"
@downeedles9249
@downeedles9249 Жыл бұрын
Alex Perrault saying " I was'nt treated fairly considering the value i brought to the show" is one of the funniest shit ever , the dude was just there , like an NPC , not moving, not talking , just eating , not much more lmao
@Alias3141
@Alias3141 11 ай бұрын
I disagree. As a kid, I loved watching Muscles Glasses just stand there. For some reason, him just standing around and being called by that name was hilarious to me and one of the reasons I kept watching. He should have been appreciated more as a member of the crew.
@tsui1024
@tsui1024 11 ай бұрын
he wanted more than just a member of the crew. he wanted extra for being muscle glasses, at a time when their content was already starting to dry up @@Alias3141
@DemonLordSparda
@DemonLordSparda 10 ай бұрын
@@Alias3141 He got paid fairly, but wanting more than the creator of the channel and the main personality is a bit silly. Notably there were never accusations of paying less than they agreed on, he just wanted more. Greed played a role there.
@brandon-yu
@brandon-yu 10 ай бұрын
To be fair, I personally stopped watching the show once MG stopped appearing.
@genericaccount2056
@genericaccount2056 9 ай бұрын
​@@brandon-yuhas he done anything of note since leaving?
@rnrtruestories
@rnrtruestories 2 жыл бұрын
Man, i remember these guys back in the day. At my office we used to watch their new episodes at one guys cubicle.
@hokage1997
@hokage1997 2 жыл бұрын
love how verified accounts get top comment with 10x less likes than unverified accounts. gg
@SilverPaladin
@SilverPaladin 2 жыл бұрын
@@hokage1997 take a like
@wezzbeet2923
@wezzbeet2923 2 жыл бұрын
@@SilverPaladin hahaha
@wezzbeet2923
@wezzbeet2923 2 жыл бұрын
Gays
@gxtmfa
@gxtmfa 2 жыл бұрын
Yo, your content is awesome and I love that you cover more obscure bands
@rikumajumder1558
@rikumajumder1558 2 жыл бұрын
it's sad that most of the current generation will never experience so many channels at the start of KZbin. Makes you think about how your parents feel when you don't understand their 'heroes'.
@TheZachary86
@TheZachary86 2 жыл бұрын
That’s true. I mean what was there to understand about the Lone Ranger?
@Tk--cp9xw
@Tk--cp9xw 2 жыл бұрын
Damn remember machinima?
@Pactastic042
@Pactastic042 2 жыл бұрын
It's crazy that at one time everyone at a lunch table was was watching a Ray William Johnson video and talking about , I doubt some newcomers know who that is
@stevencollins8348
@stevencollins8348 2 жыл бұрын
KZbin also didn't punish creators like they do now
@The_Real_Frisbee
@The_Real_Frisbee 2 жыл бұрын
"at the start of KZbin" Eh? KZbin started 5 years before EMT joined. The start of KZbin was porn, parodies, music and Smosh. KZbin was truly lawless before the Google buyout.
@hushex5150
@hushex5150 2 жыл бұрын
I knew these guys a few years ago but I never expected them to go down like they did. KZbinrs in 2010 are now failing because they can’t keep up with the new trends and algorithms
@WizardAmbrose
@WizardAmbrose 2 жыл бұрын
Nowadays cringy and clickbait stuff get pushed into algorithms.
@jinmark9453
@jinmark9453 2 жыл бұрын
@@WizardAmbrose I dont get crying i get CNN NBC in my recommended section and that makes me cry.
@apersunthathasaridiculousl1890
@apersunthathasaridiculousl1890 2 жыл бұрын
@@WizardAmbrose cuz it makes YT the most money
@urchin62
@urchin62 2 жыл бұрын
@Grisella L 👇💋 Nobody cares
@Billionaire1998
@Billionaire1998 2 жыл бұрын
KZbin has turned to shit ever since Smosh turned into a corporate business.
@BurkaMurka
@BurkaMurka 2 жыл бұрын
What made EMT great for me was Harley, his jokes, quips, attitude and personality is top notch. In its prime EMT was the most hilarious channel on youtube by miles. But all good things have to end
@lakemanson8051
@lakemanson8051 2 жыл бұрын
Go watch EMT now lol, Harley hasn't changed and he is more unhinged now.
@Meilk27
@Meilk27 2 жыл бұрын
I think the muscles guy was right he was a pretty big part of the show but maybe he was asking for too much. But he was a fan favorite. It was doomed from the start anyway business was going to ruin the friendships always
@Dousch
@Dousch 2 жыл бұрын
This was one of those huge channels that would show up in your feed every now and then over a couple of years. You took it for granted as a part of your social media environment, then one day it's gone and you slowly forget about it, flash forward a couple of years and it takes stumbling upon a random video like this highlighting what happened to ever even get the memo.
@burnzy3210
@burnzy3210 Жыл бұрын
imagine feeling so entitled to a piece of the pie when all you do is wear glasses and ear food that's put infront of you
@SB-eh5gd
@SB-eh5gd Жыл бұрын
💀
@esteboi3858
@esteboi3858 Жыл бұрын
fr how the hell did the chemistry crumble THAT hard because one dude who wore sat there and wore glasses eating food wanted more money 😭
@sinekonata
@sinekonata 2 ай бұрын
Yeah that's the boss' side of the story. I tend to ignore that and read between the lines, since we KNOW how little the workers, in this case actors, tend to get compensated. When you're so greedy about your massive pie that you're willing to see your crew go when it asks for some respect, you deserve to lose that pie.
@respectedlocalgentleman7108
@respectedlocalgentleman7108 2 ай бұрын
zh00xD
@CommonSenseless1993
@CommonSenseless1993 2 жыл бұрын
It’s crazy that 2010 is looked at as “the early days of KZbin” considering the fact that I was in college at the time. I always considered 2006-2009 to be the early years of KZbin for me.
@KuntaKinteToby
@KuntaKinteToby 2 жыл бұрын
2006-2009 was early adopters. 2010-2012 was when YT started going mainstream.
@trcs3079
@trcs3079 2 жыл бұрын
Id say the early days were definitely 2006-2009. 2010 was definitely when kids were slowly using it more so it's more or less nostalgia
@ShivaOO7
@ShivaOO7 2 жыл бұрын
You're correct. 2010 is more of these mid-era of KZbin. The early days were when the biggest stars were asian-americans making mediocre jokes into their webcam or digital camera.
@planescaped
@planescaped 2 жыл бұрын
I didn't make this account until 2008, but I remember watching entire pirated series' on youtube back in 07. The days before anyone bothered making accounts or subscribing and every video had may 6 comments on it, if it had any at all. :P As well as Ventrillo harassment and Freeman's Mind of course. :P Thank god for Accursed Farms.
@Nightbird8272
@Nightbird8272 Жыл бұрын
@@KuntaKinteToby I just learned I was an early adopter then lol
@chadwildclay
@chadwildclay 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome analysis, SunnyV2. I remember when Epic Meal Time was in the top 10 most subscribed and have always wondered why the channel fell off, so I really appreciate this video.
@Idunooo
@Idunooo 2 жыл бұрын
damn, ur on this vid?
@Reallyaudi
@Reallyaudi 2 жыл бұрын
Why do you type like your sending him something in the mail
@tobythedevil1874
@tobythedevil1874 2 жыл бұрын
Verified alert
@tinguspingus295
@tinguspingus295 2 жыл бұрын
Chad fucking wild clayyyy
@DumDum-zj6gm
@DumDum-zj6gm 2 жыл бұрын
Give bobux?
@evilwagz
@evilwagz Жыл бұрын
Buddy of mine is a dentist. There’s a video we watched where Harley’s first line was “call up your dentist-tell em he’s a bitch!”. To this day!, whenever I see my dentist friend I still drop this line and we still, to this day, laugh is if we heard it for the first time. Thanks Harley!
@GoldAk47
@GoldAk47 2 жыл бұрын
“Businesses just got in the way of being fun” is probably the case for every “successful KZbinr”
@ZeranZeran
@ZeranZeran 2 жыл бұрын
Too true.
@CybearBox
@CybearBox 2 жыл бұрын
Twitch too.
@xJDMWaRRi0Rx
@xJDMWaRRi0Rx 2 жыл бұрын
We can see that happening in real time with channels like mr beast and nelk. They’re getting too big into the business aspect of things to actually produce real entertaining content. I’d rather see a bunch of smaller give away videos instead of these over the top challenge videos with other youtubers with a huge payout from mr beast
@IIIIAmSHODAN
@IIIIAmSHODAN 17 күн бұрын
@@xJDMWaRRi0Rx lol mr beast was always a soulless sociopath channel with the sole intent of making money. Imagine putting that fuckwad in the same tier as anyone else.
@espo7182
@espo7182 2 жыл бұрын
Why is it that when a successful KZbin channel eventually falls off everyone says that they eventually failed? Yet when a successful TV show eventually runs its course(not goes out with its own planned written finale) people still consider that TV show to be a success? I don't see this channel as failing at all. It just ran it course. Maybe there was things behind the scenes complicating things, but that is true of almost every successful business in the world. Besides to this day Harley is still pretty active on KZbin and social media and I'm sure is doing just fine. As I'm sure are the others. To say it failed is misleading and I honestly never even really watched their channel, so I don't really care much about them. They just basically reached their end game, or their final season, if it was a TV show.
@Rhewin
@Rhewin 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly. And I can’t call a channel getting 30-50k views per video to this day a failure.
@Fr00stee
@Fr00stee 2 жыл бұрын
youtube channels don't have a finale that people can look at and go "wow that channel was good"
@Bladedcloud6159
@Bladedcloud6159 2 жыл бұрын
@@Fr00stee 2 words. Unus Annus
@Fr00stee
@Fr00stee 2 жыл бұрын
@@Bladedcloud6159 pretty sure that is the only channel that did that
@BriChuhime-sama
@BriChuhime-sama 2 жыл бұрын
I’m guessing that channels that were once pulling in millions suddenly barely hitting 100k are considered fails. I see it as a river hitting the ocean and becoming a part of the expanse tbh. Never a failure but a new beginning….. *NOW GABBIE HANNAH ON THE OTHER HAND….*
@Sam-rc7wd
@Sam-rc7wd 2 жыл бұрын
I remember showing this to my friends a decade ago and they seemed unstoppable at the time, but a decade later (literally became a doctor in that time) they have hardly any views and it sucks. I really feel like the cooking lessons ruined the channel imo.
@fazormcghee7936
@fazormcghee7936 2 жыл бұрын
They showed the audience how magic works
@Ryan-te3sw
@Ryan-te3sw 2 жыл бұрын
Way to go on becoming a DR!
@Sam-rc7wd
@Sam-rc7wd 2 жыл бұрын
@@Ryan-te3sw ty
@GatorAidMedical
@GatorAidMedical 2 жыл бұрын
Are you postcall rn?
@QUBIQUBED
@QUBIQUBED 2 жыл бұрын
@@Sam-rc7wd dude good job being a doctor thats hard asf
@NicklasZandeVGCP2001
@NicklasZandeVGCP2001 2 жыл бұрын
Same with Annoying Orange and Channel Awesome. They both seemed like fun novelties initially, but they began feeling trapped in an alorythm that they couldn't control, and with many key figures leaving the company due to mistreatment they had recieved. And now barely anyone talks about them anymore.
@ZenEmir
@ZenEmir 2 жыл бұрын
i couldn't really agree with the term "failed" They had their moment in the sun and did well with it, not many channels can do the same cookie-cutter content for 10 years and still be as successful at their peak. Epic meal time had a great fun and was amazing to watch when it first came out!!
@hsing-yihuang3335
@hsing-yihuang3335 2 жыл бұрын
captain sparklez?
@DrakeWingGaming
@DrakeWingGaming 2 жыл бұрын
More like a decade in the sun.
@user-sl6gn1ss8p
@user-sl6gn1ss8p 2 жыл бұрын
yeah, it's a weird metric when making videos about specific super-sized foods get's a billion views and is called a failure. It's the same with games nowadays which people quit playing after years and hundreds of hours, as if everything had to be stretched forever way beyond any reason.
@IDiggPattyMayonnaise
@IDiggPattyMayonnaise 2 жыл бұрын
They hit success on YT early. If they had became successful now theyd have a lot more staying power. It was like a flavor of the week situation on YT early on. I can name a lot of channels I watched that are basically nothing. Channels now don't seem to go away since yt is as big as it's ever been.
@DrakeWingGaming
@DrakeWingGaming 2 жыл бұрын
@@IDiggPattyMayonnaise I disagree. I think it they'd arrived much later then their success would have been far more limited. Their type of content wasn't really done by a lot of channels back then, which gave them much more appeal. Nowadays there are more hardcore cooking channels than I can count.
@gawdat3859
@gawdat3859 2 жыл бұрын
5:43 Important note: when Harley says Muscles Glasses wanted to be paid more than Harley himself... that is meant to mislead you. Harley drew a modest salary for his work on the show, but as owner all the profit after expenses went to him (and his brother). The bulk of the money went to ownership, and salaries were relatively small business expenses.
@TheBestcommentor
@TheBestcommentor 2 жыл бұрын
It sounds like he wasn't even involved in making most of the videos, though.
@transfixit
@transfixit 2 жыл бұрын
@@TrTriTrippin so replacable, they couldn't replace him but ok
@StabStabStabStabby
@StabStabStabStabby 2 жыл бұрын
@@transfixit I think that the point is that his departure didn't negatively impact the viewership like he claimed it would.
@transfixit
@transfixit 2 жыл бұрын
@@StabStabStabStabby except it did?
@StabStabStabStabby
@StabStabStabStabby 2 жыл бұрын
@@transfixit the viewership tapered off naturally as the show delicined in popularity.
@SnowsLife
@SnowsLife Жыл бұрын
I lived right next to those guys. That OG mcdonalds ( RIP it was remodeled into the modernist hell Mcdonalds ) was literally at the end of my street.
@NILBOG13
@NILBOG13 Жыл бұрын
10 years is NOT a failure, I will always watch the EMT videos with love and hunger.
@rigormortiz5357
@rigormortiz5357 Жыл бұрын
so you're saying failure doesn't exist? thanks man
@NILBOG13
@NILBOG13 Жыл бұрын
@@rigormortiz5357 Where in my post did I say that? Strawman much?
@honeywellparts7541
@honeywellparts7541 Жыл бұрын
@@rigormortiz5357 I thought that failures doesn't existed...until i read your comment
@riskybitness
@riskybitness 2 жыл бұрын
Epic Meal Time was great, but it was something that couldn't last forever. The fact that it got on like it did and lasted as long as it did is just a testament to how well Harley and Co. did their jobs. I don't think anyone could have expected that to become a full time gig when they started. It was also an idea that could only be taken so far. There's only so much you can do with a straightforward concept like that, and they did it. From what I understand they've all moved onto different projects from that jumping off point, so I don't think Epic Meal Time failed. I think it ran its course.
@legopuma5251
@legopuma5251 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Sunnny, been watching you since your Boogie Vids, still remembering your Fortnite Vids, just wanting to say I still highly enjoy watching your videos. Idk if you need to hear this but nothing but respect for your incredible rise. Greetings from Germany!
@Cubick
@Cubick 2 жыл бұрын
This comment is top tier wholesome
@diabetesdictator6488
@diabetesdictator6488 2 жыл бұрын
Yooo which part. I too live in germany
@JadF1729
@JadF1729 2 жыл бұрын
Me too I watched him since march
@SteveTomSawyer
@SteveTomSawyer 2 жыл бұрын
Same duuuuude he just BLEW UP
@Nomenooooo
@Nomenooooo 2 жыл бұрын
@Dream shut up
@Eloquence00
@Eloquence00 2 жыл бұрын
I remember watching Epic Meal Time with the boys at their place after school, talking about the ridiculousness, the grossness, laughing until my stomach hurt, etc. It really was good. Then, after some point, we all just stopped talking about it. I don't remember when, but it came and went like a flash in the pan for me in school. I remember looking up the channel some time later in college and thinking "dang, this is kinda boring". I wasn't there for the transition to their later videos, but for me it really felt like the show was missing everything that made it great in the first place. It wasn't serious - regardless of Harley's character's attitude; it was super silly and absurd. This gave it exceptional meme value, even at a time when meme culture was just coming around. And the gravitas of the earlier videos really made them feel "Epic" while, as you pointed out, the newer stuff just kinda felt casual. That Epic-ness was what made them all the funnier, because even though the show was absurd and over the top, the characters taking it all seriously only made it funnier. In hindsight, trying to keep a meme show going for 10 years probably wasn't the optimal route. But I sympathize with Harley who had to think about his employees, his friends, his family, and himself. It's very easy to get stuck in a "known" format and trying to expand into actual serious content would've been very difficult. It's the reason that a lot of creators have second and even third channels, to help them find new formats that work and capitalize on them.
@LeongGunners
@LeongGunners 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, their vids these days feel more like a bunch of school kids flailing around attempting to make parodies of a proper EMT video.
@ZombieFredo
@ZombieFredo 2 жыл бұрын
I love that the video ended with a small clap for Harley. He really never did give up or blame anyone for the channel's decline. It will always be a fond memory of early KZbin.
@-.-Monster
@-.-Monster 2 жыл бұрын
Epic meal time did not fail. It lived a full life. They still post lesser extreme food vids. Their run was legitimately epic
@AccAkut1987
@AccAkut1987 11 ай бұрын
If you compare it to TV shows... even thirty years ago, TV shows rarely went longer than 7 seasons/years, if they were not soaps that had an ever changing cast and story lines anyway. Viewers just grow out of it and move on.
@TryinBin8889
@TryinBin8889 2 жыл бұрын
"Business just got in the way of being fun". Wow. I feel like for a lot of the channels that were amazing in the beginning when they were just friends having fun and showing organic relationships which eventually collapsed, this has been a recurring problem
@ravenx25
@ravenx25 2 жыл бұрын
Should have partnered with mukbangs and pivoted that way. It would feel authentic and benefit from a fresh audience and energy. Could do themes and each request for a cuisine would stave boredom. It would be a win-win.
@proudbeanerii3810
@proudbeanerii3810 2 жыл бұрын
No they just need to end the channel . They don't have the ideas to keep up with this new generation of youtubers. It's like Dr Dre dropping an album now and making 1/10 of what he did in his NWA days and his solo career in the 90s .
@inzane456
@inzane456 2 жыл бұрын
The chad Guga food channels vs the virgin internal fighting bullshit
@IIIIAmSHODAN
@IIIIAmSHODAN 17 күн бұрын
how about fucking no? mukbangs are disgusting. Weird fetish content for weirdos
@thefcw
@thefcw 2 жыл бұрын
I remember my interest going down the toilet with Epic Meal Time when they had that episode where they got a limo, women, and started throwing money around, yelling “bacon strips” at passers by. They went from dudes you wanted to drink, chill, and have a greasy meal with, to a bunch of rich, entitled looking douchebags in one video. That is the image that sticks with me.
@shartsmcginty8056
@shartsmcginty8056 2 жыл бұрын
Same. That's the video that made me unsubscribe.
@inmotion9396
@inmotion9396 2 жыл бұрын
whats wrong with being rich?
@rogerdalzell
@rogerdalzell 2 жыл бұрын
@@inmotion9396 being rich is inherently morally wrong for starters. You cant be a good person and be rich. By keeping wealth instead of using it they've become part of the problem.
@Cepheus773
@Cepheus773 2 жыл бұрын
@@rogerdalzell Uh...I don't know about all that, chief.
@Cepheus773
@Cepheus773 2 жыл бұрын
@Tsu Plenty of rich people do charitable acts and donate to help others. Not to mention that "rich" changes definition from person to person. My family in El Salvador considers me rich, am I a bad person because I'm not doing more to help the poor? If I ever become "rich" am I morally obligated to give money away? It's just ridiculous to base a person's moral standing on how much money they are making.
@Sawta
@Sawta Жыл бұрын
Although it would have been great if the show kept running forever, I get that it probably got very hard to keep that level of sarcastic, over the top passion going. Honestly, I'm also kind of glad the show ended, in that, although it was fun to watch this crazy stuff get eaten, I always felt this twinge of "Man, if they keep doing this, their health is going to suffer longterm", kind of the way it has with mukbang stuff. I do think it would be cool if they got back together to do some kind of activity together, maybe just hang out and catch up, or some kind of outdoor competition. The chemistry and atmosphere was so fun to watch. It would be cool if they recaptured some of that.
@coolbrotherf127
@coolbrotherf127 2 жыл бұрын
You definitely nailed this one. It hit during a specific cultural boom that accelerated them to the top, but that bubble burst and they didn't pick up anything that would keep the attention of their audience for the long term. It was definitely possible, but they probably felt like it was too much of a gamble to shy away from what made them successful in the first place.
@Cubick
@Cubick 2 жыл бұрын
Completely forgot about this guy, excited to hear what happened to him and stuff, thanks for another epic documentary Sunny
@tayo17923
@tayo17923 2 жыл бұрын
Lmao he goes on twitch podcasts now where he shares hilarious stories
@ACEDTVL
@ACEDTVL 2 жыл бұрын
honestly I would have just started my own channel based off of the fame Epic Meal Time was getting, like David dobrik. sometimes you have to take the blessing you have. in this case they blessing was exposure but they wanted more compensation when they could have created their own. I'm not sure if these guys did start another Channel but I would have played ball and kept the show going and the fans who enjoy my presence would find me.
@Zeverinsen
@Zeverinsen 2 жыл бұрын
@@rydz656 That's literally irrelevant.
@swig8792
@swig8792 2 жыл бұрын
@@rydz656 💀 (im deceased)
@stevenflores7405
@stevenflores7405 2 жыл бұрын
@@rydz656 wtf?
@jhtsurvival
@jhtsurvival 2 жыл бұрын
They did stuff
@michaelhaydenbell
@michaelhaydenbell 2 жыл бұрын
Ok I'm sure your hypothetical thoughts on what YOU would have done in their shoes, with you only having a fraction of a sliver of all the facts plus the benefit of hindsight, are super duper helpful.
@bundesautobahn7
@bundesautobahn7 2 жыл бұрын
Epic Meal Time even had a "spinoff" channel made by people in Sweden named "Regular Ordinary Swedish Meal Time", but the people behind ROSMT knew when to end it for good after they returned from their first hiatus. EMT however just became completely ridiculous and jumped the shark, not to mention all the infighting that seems to have been instigated by Harley himself.
@buak809
@buak809 2 жыл бұрын
Man i loved ROSMT they were acting ridiculous but it was original in its own way and they actually were doing quite healthy meals with milk and pre dinner snack included 😅
@sunpay2310
@sunpay2310 2 жыл бұрын
Because it's good for you :D
@havokmusicinc
@havokmusicinc 2 жыл бұрын
ROSMT was a fun show
@DeimosDread
@DeimosDread 2 жыл бұрын
@@sunpay2310 just a spoonful?
@zerevv
@zerevv 2 жыл бұрын
"Regular Ordinary Swedish Meal Time" IN SWENGLISH!!!!
@connorross123
@connorross123 2 жыл бұрын
Respect to the entire crew for keeping the channel going for so long with such a limiting format, like you said
@AutumnalWinds1121
@AutumnalWinds1121 Жыл бұрын
Loved their content. But omg what a different space the internet was.
@austinwilburn1772
@austinwilburn1772 2 жыл бұрын
Me and my friend sometimes talk about EMT. It’s like the perfect case study. Let’s be honest, KZbin wouldn’t be the same if they never made EMT. I think they really hold a special spot in a Lot of peoples heart.
@Freebuss
@Freebuss 2 жыл бұрын
Right in the arteries lol
@austinwilburn1772
@austinwilburn1772 2 жыл бұрын
@@Freebuss, they use to be in my heart but the doctor finally found the problem during a triple bypass.
@daniel1RM
@daniel1RM 2 жыл бұрын
nah youtube woud be the same, nobody alone is that impactful
@mynaemismoos
@mynaemismoos 2 жыл бұрын
The breakup part of it is reminiscent of what happened with Super Best Friends in a way. Hearing that Matt and Pat no longer got along was heartbreaking.
@mastersnake42
@mastersnake42 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely one of the saddest things to happen for me in recent memory. Their I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream LP was the first one to come up when I searched for one back in the day, and I instantly loved their dynamic.
@bencousins7311
@bencousins7311 2 жыл бұрын
aye i was watching one of matts new videos and i was like yeah i was hanging out with my friend liam and i was like darn i miss the old gang but they all seem happy with their new gigs
@ToasterOven.
@ToasterOven. 2 жыл бұрын
I still remember finding this channel in June of 2020 and thinking how great the content was. Now he’s at 3/4 to a million subs and I’ve realized how far he’s come
@tndrunning3328
@tndrunning3328 2 жыл бұрын
Harleys voiceovers were comedy gold. So many quotable lines that made the videos so funny and rewatchable
@beefbrisket168
@beefbrisket168 2 жыл бұрын
when Epic Meal Time first came out, I was a part time high school student taking blow off classes to graduate. I watched them in class. I started noticing a decline a couple of years later and eventually forgot about them.
@ILuCkYxCh4rMz
@ILuCkYxCh4rMz 2 жыл бұрын
I subconsciously still call rainbow candy belts “rainbow bacon strips”, and remember when EMT had a shirt in Walmart at one time. Insanity.
@paulolatupan6096
@paulolatupan6096 2 жыл бұрын
The time that you took for this vid is a masterpiece
@riccardo7790
@riccardo7790 2 жыл бұрын
Harley was my substitute teacher in highschool lol Hes a great guy im glad for his success
@Takaichi666-
@Takaichi666- 5 ай бұрын
No way for real?!
@vivalanina
@vivalanina 2 жыл бұрын
frankly, it was his attitude that got to me. At first he just seemed goofy an loud, but then he seemed aggressive and rude. I don't have time in my day for people like that.
@theburninator888
@theburninator888 2 жыл бұрын
Their channel didn't "fail". It just ran its course. Almost nobody that was big in 2010 is still as big today, except for a very small handful of youtubers.
@wtfsalt
@wtfsalt Жыл бұрын
They should have gone down the hot-sauce route. seems like that became the food meta
@primitivethinking3762
@primitivethinking3762 2 жыл бұрын
The lesson here: If you ever find yourself becoming viral, and making a huge name for yourselves quickly ..plan ahead, that it will only last a few years at most. If Epic Meal Time had a "Final Episode" early on, and they all broke off to produce, and make channels of their own ..that would have very well became a more successful plan for everyone. All in all, I don't think this should destroy a friendship among them ..they all are going to remember these times, and cherish them later on..
@koloth5139
@koloth5139 2 жыл бұрын
Hindsight is 20/20. Thing is 10 years ago no one knew what KZbin success really was or what any of it meant. It was completely new territory. That's why terrible things like Fred got made into a feature length movie, with sequels. It is difficult to predict the fickle nature of the fans. Now we know viral success doesn't mean long term success. Worse it is difficult to know how anyone will react in a situation. Some people let their ego get away from them. And some people will always feel they are treated unfairly. Or some will just lose interest in a project. Things will be said, feelings hurt, and friendships damaged.
@chibixleon
@chibixleon 2 жыл бұрын
Actually genius
@Doza137
@Doza137 2 жыл бұрын
One of them ended up hosting a network tv cooking show for a bit. sugar showdown I believe?
@Dante_S550_Turbo
@Dante_S550_Turbo 2 жыл бұрын
@MasterOfDone they had a falling out? I figured they just got burned out and lets be honest here.... Buu saga kinda sucks. Like dragging themselves through the mud for weak content XD
@xDinomanx
@xDinomanx 2 жыл бұрын
@@Dante_S550_Turbo No, TeamFourStar never had a falling out. They got burned out with production on each DBZ Abridged episode as the final season progressed. You'll notice this in how long episodes took to come out later on (they went from a couple of months to bi-annually and then basically almost a year, the finale itself taking basically a year to complete, it was delayed for so long). As editing and production value improved, the time it took to do this was a massive toll. Plus the crew are much older now, TFS as a channel makes them a lot of money for their salary. They have a bigger team too. There comes a point, similar to EpicMealTime where they want to move on to other projects. The Buu Saga would've taken way too long to produce. People don''t like to hear that but it's true. They had an amazing run, finished on a high note with the 3-part finale (and epilogue as well as animated mini-episodes). Honestly, I'm at peace with it. Sure, the Buu Saga would've been amazing to abridge but at the end of the day we got a great sendoff to the show regardless.
@ed-zn5bd
@ed-zn5bd 2 жыл бұрын
I remember back in the day I wore an EpicMealTime shirt walking into Pluckers. It was like a celebrity had walked in. People screaming “EpicMealTime!!” High fives, point and laughing “wooo’s!” It was so much fun. RIP
@illbuyourniknak
@illbuyourniknak 2 жыл бұрын
Really. Once the initial charm wears off, every single EMT video boils down to a bunch of drunken bros eating grotesque amounts of food. If I wanted to see that, I’d go back to college…
@generichuman2044
@generichuman2044 2 жыл бұрын
That's a good way of putting it. I tried to get into their stuff but got bored after 3 or 4 videos. The novelty wore off very quickly
@_Ekaros
@_Ekaros 2 жыл бұрын
Also the food really wasn't that great. Big sure, bacon sure, meat sure. All things I love, but still somehow disgusting and not in the good way.
@emilykim7053
@emilykim7053 2 жыл бұрын
Successful people don't become that way overnight. What most people see at a glance wealth, a great career, purpose is the result of hard work and hustle over time. I pray that anyone who reads this will be Successful in life
@sebastianmateo9434
@sebastianmateo9434 2 жыл бұрын
Bitcoin is exciting because it shows how cheap it can be. Bitcoin is better than currency in to that you don't have to be physiclly in the same place and of course,for large transactions, currency can get pretty Inconvenient.
@walkerfred9763
@walkerfred9763 2 жыл бұрын
Well think it's working there may be other currencies like it that may be even better. But in the meantime, there's a big industry around Bitcoin-people have made fortunes off Bitcoin, some have lost money.its is volatile,but people make money off volatility too.
@paritapatel7062
@paritapatel7062 2 жыл бұрын
When Bitcoin currency is converted from currency into cash, that interface has to remain under some regulatory safeguards. I think the fact that within the bitcoin universe an algorithm replaces the function of the government... (that) is actually pretty Cool.
@liamjames3752
@liamjames3752 2 жыл бұрын
It is not a speculative investment even though it is being used as such by other people. As Bitcoin network grows the value of Bitcoin grows. As people move into Bitcoin for payment and receipts they stop using US Dollars,Euros and Chinese Yuan which in the long-term devalues these Currencies
@luistaveras2343
@luistaveras2343 2 жыл бұрын
Bitcoin is the beginning of something great: a currency without a government, something necessary and imperative. But I am not familiar with the specific product to assert whether it is the best potential setup. And we need a long time to establish confidence.
@TheBobby2legs
@TheBobby2legs Жыл бұрын
I wouldn't call it fail so much as it concluded, like any good show eventually should.
@rigormortiz5357
@rigormortiz5357 Жыл бұрын
too bad it didn't end on a high note
@cfn6742
@cfn6742 2 жыл бұрын
SunnyV2 always makes my day with these extremely entertaining documentaries
@adwhoodie
@adwhoodie 2 жыл бұрын
well like my comments ;
@kevins4213
@kevins4213 2 жыл бұрын
I've seen Harley in kids' movies and at least a couple other YT things since EMT. I always suspected after their long run that they went on to their day jobs or the sugar and carbs finally caught up with them.
@mattandrews8528
@mattandrews8528 2 жыл бұрын
What went wrong? Well he went ALL THE WAY with his first few videos, he was always trying to up the hype, eventually when you start THAT ridiculous there’s nowhere else left to go, and then nobody cares anymore. In a culture that’s love shocking and new content to digest, when you don’t give it to them people get over EVERYTHING eventually, and move on.
@michaelsmith5769
@michaelsmith5769 2 жыл бұрын
He started out already in 5th gear.
@officegossip
@officegossip Жыл бұрын
Met Harley at a LA comic con, he was just hanging out and me and my friend asked to take a picture with him and he politely obliged. He was a really nice guy.
@TheVeryAngryShrimp
@TheVeryAngryShrimp 2 жыл бұрын
I cherish those times binging Epic Meal Time after class...Especially felt honored seeing the first episode when it was freshly uploaded.
@nom6758
@nom6758 2 жыл бұрын
Epic meal time was a singular product that did better than 99.9999% of other products in the world, it didnt fail. It ran its lifetime, like everything else did. When has an Iphone been relevant beyond 2 years of production? when has a console been relevant beyond 5 years of its usage? Its clear to see as a product, the show outperformed the lifespan of some of the most mainstream products ever created by man.
@joshuadonnelly1978
@joshuadonnelly1978 2 жыл бұрын
So it's the same old story then: some friends made something wonderful and creative together... then decided to monetize it, and destroyed their own creation. It's ALWAYS the same. When you treat art like a business, the art becomes lesser for it.
@moonraven6145
@moonraven6145 2 жыл бұрын
I mean, I think there's only soo much you can do with the premise of "Make incredibly unhealthy food behemoth, then eat it" for it to remain interesting forever, times change after all and people change.
@EricNygma
@EricNygma 2 жыл бұрын
When guys started leaving was the decline for me. Especially Muscles Glasses. Not because he was the star or anything but the way Harley handled the situation was poorly done. He made a video once where he basically said MG was a character he created & Alex was just an actor hired for the role. Which isn’t true if you watched their first few videos ever and you see Alex & Tyler just being themselves, not their eventual characters, eating food. It felt like Harley tried to downplay the popularity of certain members while ironically replacing them with other members (i.e. “Gross Guy”). They knew how popular Muscles Glasses was. They even tried to do a spin-off series with other people playing him that lasted one episode. I think the handling made him look like he didn’t value what his friends brought to the product
@GreyGooseNWO
@GreyGooseNWO 2 жыл бұрын
did you watch the video completely? Muscles glass was a paid actor that eats bacon on camera once a month with 4 different t shirt to make it looks like 4 different day. He became greedy and he wanted to make more money than even Harley… That’s why he left because Harley thought it was crazy to ask for that much money when all he does is eat bacon once a month
@maikerukage816
@maikerukage816 2 жыл бұрын
Same. I stopped watching because it was clear he viewed the cast / crew as expendable. Mistake.
@Vacuon
@Vacuon 2 жыл бұрын
@@GreyGooseNWO This is just rumors right, so maybe it's not true, but I'm from Montreal too, and there were a lot of rumors that Epic Meal Time were throwing insane parties, like downtown penthouse pool party type stuff, so they were definetly handling more than 2000$ a week. They got famous real quick and they had the benefits of fame, but Harley was hoarding it. "I created this, I made this, it's all MY idea". Imagine a bunch of 20yo with more money that they can spend for a second and it's easy to understand why it was tense. Let's just say it wasn't only the meals that were greasy.
@lymmea
@lymmea 2 жыл бұрын
@@GreyGooseNWO I wouldn't trust Harley's own words on it. For one thing, as OP said, they definitely seemed like friends hanging out in the earliest videos, not just actors(and it's weird that Harley would have hired a character actor so early on, before they'd even blown up? It was literally their first video, iirc, they hadn't gone viral yet), so you could trust Harley's words...or you could trust the evidence of, y'know, your own eyes and common sense. I don't think Alex was an actor. I think Alex was a friend who Harley started considering an actor when he stopped considering him a friend, which was probably around the time MusclesGlasses became such a popular character that he actually rivaled Harley himself. Harley probably WASN'T compensating him fairly or giving him any sort of say in the company equal to his own, despite the fact that MusclesGlasses was at least as much of a draw as himself. (As a former EMT viewer, I actually preferred MusclesGlasses to Harley, and I stopped watching around the time he and Tyler left the show. Harley was never the show - the crew was, and Harley was only one part of it. Unfortunately, it seems like Harley didn't see it that way, and didn't value any of them appropriately.) More than that, though, when multiple people connected to Harley cite the same issues with the guy, it doesn't sound like one greedy actor anymore. It's also EXTREMELY sketchy that Harley bills himself (and his brother) as the creator(s) of EMT, when in fact Harley created EMT with his co-creator and cameraman/video editor Sterling Toth...who he eventually tried to drive out of the company, and then sued, and now pretends doesn't even exist. (Also, Harley's brother Darren wasn't a co-creator, and wasn't even brought in until later. Harley and Darren wanting Darren to have a controlling interest in the company - and their increasing desire to cut Sterling out of the company, and Sterling's recognizing that Darren getting a vote in the company would allow them to overrule him in all company matters and so not wanting Darren to have a vote in company matters - was what led to the lawsuit. At least, if I understand the court documents right; they were translated pretty roughly from French.) I was actually shocked Sterling and the lawsuit weren't brought up in this video at all; Harley's done a good job erasing him from existence, I guess. Harley does not seem like a stand-up or honest guy, considering you've got three different members of the original crew that made early EMT what it was leaving the show on bad terms with him, all saying more or less the same things about him. So citing his account is fact is not the way I'd go.
@federicomadden9236
@federicomadden9236 2 жыл бұрын
@@GreyGooseNWO Compensation isn't about how much work you do, it's about the value you bring to the product. That's what Harley didn't seem to understand
@imalright2837
@imalright2837 2 жыл бұрын
When I attended job corps back in 2012 some of my friends and I worked in the dining hall. We would always discuss epic meal time videos and quote it all day long. Naturally since we had access to ample food we started making our own unholy creations in the back. The only one I can remember really was our 10 beef patty and 50 pieces of bacon tower burger. The poor guy foolish enough to volunteer to eat tried his very best but didn’t get very far. All I remember every time he took a bite like 2 and half cups of grease would come gushing out onto the floor 😂
@insanospaz
@insanospaz 2 жыл бұрын
I worked at a fastfood place through hs and a joke at school turned into a challenge for people to order this abomination of mushroom/swiss burger+brisket+ruben+cheesbuger
@steelokey
@steelokey 2 жыл бұрын
Damn this is bitter sweet. I’m 25 now & I remember my homie Isaac coming to tell me all the time that a new video dropped & we gotta do something similar. We’d always cook up random crazy shit just cause of this show, shout out my bro for the timeless memories & these guys for ever making the show. Their impact on KZbin as a platform will never be forgotten, these type of people & KZbin channels were the pioneers of “viral moments”. What a time to grow up during, I felt like I witnessed so much cool shit happen especially with the internet getting as crazy as it’s got. I remember dial up lol
@HowieRaps
@HowieRaps 4 ай бұрын
EpicMealTime coming back and beating world records for "the biggest" of different foods and then giving it out to the homeless in the area they cooked it, would be an amazing comeback story.
@NegatingSilence
@NegatingSilence 2 жыл бұрын
The decline does not need an explanation. I'm shocked to discover that they were able to keep that up for more than 2 years, and that the channel still exists. Timely and novel things like that are not meant to go on forever.
@j.peters1222
@j.peters1222 2 жыл бұрын
It was a channel concept that simply wasn't sustainable thanks to the restrictiveness of the format. You can only do so much with making these huge meals before it becomes boring and repetitive. Views will decline as a result and that's what we've seen.
@kriscubero6778
@kriscubero6778 2 жыл бұрын
Don't forget the algorithm plays a part on that as well.
@OfficialCrumpdiddy
@OfficialCrumpdiddy 2 жыл бұрын
Harley is actually a great guy. He’s always been very awesome and loves the fans. Been a fan like most of you since day 1.
@mikek9072
@mikek9072 9 ай бұрын
Ahhhhh, glad I got to see Epic Meal Time through the entire course of its run... Such an Iconic channel! Loved it!
@abysspegasusgaming
@abysspegasusgaming 2 жыл бұрын
One thing that hasn't helped EMT and others is that KZbin CONSTANTLY changes things and drives channels into the ground in the sake of keeping the advertisers dicks well polished. Pretty much a big "fuck you" to all of us who post videos or even have successful channels just so they can keep their advertisers happy while either forgetting or intentionally not giving a damn that it's us content providers that actually keep the platform alive in the first place.
@scaper8
@scaper8 2 жыл бұрын
This comment needs so many goddamned likes. Not that it would change anything, but it might remind people of the fact.
@weridplusho
@weridplusho 2 жыл бұрын
Yup. It affects the audience too because we're expected to expect to like the style that YT forces creators to adapt.
@TacCap
@TacCap 2 жыл бұрын
Used to be one of my go to channel back in 2012, after first discovering KZbin. But now those memories are simply lost in the sauce.
@IssabekovR
@IssabekovR 2 жыл бұрын
like tears in the rain
@itsMacaw
@itsMacaw 2 жыл бұрын
When you said it was becoming more of a chore, then for fun, I feel the same about GMM, I used to watch them eat these weird things, that you could make at home having tons of fun, to now making overly complicated stuff, and making it all so "professional" Idk tho lol
@youtuber58643
@youtuber58643 Жыл бұрын
I remember when Epic Meal Time blew up in 2011. It was nothing anybody has ever seen on KZbin before. It was absolutely outrageous. I think the main thing was the repetitiveness. You can only watch it so many times before you just get bored of it. I think it’s great how Harley accepts how his channel has basically died and is grateful for what he had.
@botanicalabe
@botanicalabe 2 жыл бұрын
Ngl i really like Harley’s personality and would like to see him in some more media. And with a ton of people learning how to cook over quarantine and food channels doing the super food things like Guga and Nick DiGiovanni, I wouldn’t be surprised if people were interested in that style of content again.
@miibotic
@miibotic 2 жыл бұрын
He is actually in a show that started on youtube and is on netflix now. Video Game High School if you care to check it out
@MrWorsterLike
@MrWorsterLike 2 жыл бұрын
He's still on the PKA podcast quite a lot and he streams games on twitch/FB/youtube
@jacobrodriguez1415
@jacobrodriguez1415 2 жыл бұрын
He was in the movie Tusk
@miibotic
@miibotic 2 жыл бұрын
@@jacobrodriguez1415 oh! I didn’t know that, that’s pretty cool ngl
@countlessbathory1485
@countlessbathory1485 2 жыл бұрын
I was never a fan because the food looked disgusting, in hindsight this was mukbang before mukbang. However, nearly everyone in school was a fan and for that I give them credit. They captured dominance for a time and that's an accomplishment.
@drjonesey5
@drjonesey5 2 жыл бұрын
'I was never a fan because the food looked disgusting, in hindsight this was mukbang before mukbang." I think both of these positions are completely wrong. Now if you personall felt that way ok fine, not your thing, but not being a fan because the food is disgusting I feel is nonsensical because this wasn't a traditional cooking show where you want to see how perfect, wonderful or professionally crafted the food is. What people watched it for, what to see the fun cast of the show and what ridiculous meal they would make. I have never seen anyone care about taste or how it looks so to speak. As far as the mukbang comment, absolutely not. I have no idea why people want to watch people eat, especially disgustedly. Mukbang most of the time uses regular food. Even Asian mukbang may eat something like Octopus but that is a normal meal for their culture. You're literally just watching people eat and most of the time encouraging themselves. Many of their personalities are lacking, it's a singular person and so on. It's not Epic meal time at all. People didn't watch Epic Meal time to watch the crew eat, it was for the ridiculous dish. This is just like how people watch foot fungus vids. They don't LIKE the foot fungus, it's gross, they claim it's oddly satisfying to see them clean it or fix the issue of the fungus and the gross part is just part of the process. With Mukbang, I feel like people are caught up in the wonder of those eating so much food OR the fact that most mukbang are female creators, so they want to see females or support females and additionally since the food is mostly normal they just have an an interest in what the food is. I don't think you can compare Epicmeal time to Mukbang at all just because food is the niche both are in.
@Sorrowdusk
@Sorrowdusk 2 жыл бұрын
I would smash that huge lasagna pizza with the Dr. Pepper seeds
@rdu239
@rdu239 2 жыл бұрын
@@drjonesey5 Mukbang works because its relatable to people, a viewer who can only eat simple and food that they can currently afford will be delighted and enjoy what they eat if there is someone also eating in front of them, regardless of the any format and food fetishes being featured. In the case of the mukbang scene in the West, eating unhealthy food/drinks like fastfood, cakes and chocolates makes it relatable to common people because these type of consumables are affordable compared to healthy items that are more expensive to buy for some people. The viewers feel and ease and comfortable when western mukbangers eat these stuffs due to the feeling of being on the same shoes.
@countlessbathory1485
@countlessbathory1485 2 жыл бұрын
@@drjonesey5 "nonsensical" dude if you ever studied economics you would know that value is subjective. For example, I think Royal blue is a ugly colour for a T-shirt so I tend to avoid buying it. Other people feel differently obviously. Why is this the case? because value is subjective. So gross food in my view is a logical reason to turn me off from this kind of content, but like I stated I give them credit for entertaining so many other viewers. Fyu 1/4 people in my country are either overweight or obese, just by averages I'm sure some people found the food appetizing. I'm from Australia for the record. BTW this isn't even that deep lol.
@ZeranZeran
@ZeranZeran 2 жыл бұрын
well said
@adammidderigh4150
@adammidderigh4150 2 жыл бұрын
Interestingly he's just started uploading slightly different videos a few weeks ago , and 2 of them have just over and just under 500k views respectively; vs average of well under 100k views on the months beforehand. Possible comeback?
@ggzii
@ggzii 2 жыл бұрын
I have a problem with "They only got 10 million views a month, the videos were hard to make viable". You get an isane amount of money from sponsors, merch and 10 million views. The were doing totally fine. Man youtubers love to put on a dramatic voice and sell "the fall". They didn;t need to get 500k video views to break even when the back catalogue was making SO MUCH
@yessum15
@yessum15 2 жыл бұрын
Perhaps the 10 million views a month figure refers to 10 million across their entire catalog combined. Not 10 million from one video alone.
@tomatoesandradiowire482
@tomatoesandradiowire482 2 жыл бұрын
Hahah I know equipped with the sad piano music for the narrative
@SanyaJuutilainen
@SanyaJuutilainen 2 жыл бұрын
For a single person, yes. For six people demanding their cut, not really.
@gdicommando4456
@gdicommando4456 Жыл бұрын
Couldn't trust a couple JEW brothers? Get outta town!
@SB-eh5gd
@SB-eh5gd Жыл бұрын
You vile cr3tin
@sheipukkai
@sheipukkai 2 жыл бұрын
Another quality video. Well done, mate! Weird coincidence as I just checked Epic Meal Time few nights ago and thought "Wow...they had really gone down from the highest peak of KZbin. This could be an awesome content if SunnyV2 covers this story!".
@lover14boy
@lover14boy 2 жыл бұрын
sure u did
@apersunthathasaridiculousl1890
@apersunthathasaridiculousl1890 2 жыл бұрын
it’s sad seeing fame and money/business split people apart
@embledeukietv
@embledeukietv 2 жыл бұрын
I remember that I replied to Harley's Comment that is important but Harley Morenstein replied to my comment that is sarcasm, He said to me "Your grandmother is dead". This was all satire but it's real, for the first time that a verified youtuber replied to me. I'm not hating that guy. I'm so lucky that he replied to my comment that I said "dead channel". This situation was back in October 30th, 2020. I edited my reply and then Harley deleted his reply.
@redcronojm
@redcronojm 2 жыл бұрын
It’s weird seeing Epic Meal Time makes idea of how crazy giant food creations is epic, now you see channels like Tasty making same thing but cleaner and organized. Business didn’t work out
@astrosteve
@astrosteve 2 жыл бұрын
Alvin Zhou is sort of like a much calmer Harley.
@eskits2700
@eskits2700 2 жыл бұрын
Always love it when sunny v2 uploads
@Fermion.
@Fermion. 5 ай бұрын
"You get paid to eat bacon once a month." And he still found a way to f*ck it up.
@mitchellk1675
@mitchellk1675 2 жыл бұрын
He felt like he was an important part of the show🤣🤣 brotha you wore glasses and stood there you didn’t do shit🤣
@SkydivingSquid
@SkydivingSquid 2 жыл бұрын
Epic Meal Time was a sensation growing up and I remember recreating some of their meals and quoting a lot from their videos. It's definitely nostalgia now.
@dallymoo7816
@dallymoo7816 2 жыл бұрын
Lol what did u recreate..
@SkydivingSquid
@SkydivingSquid 2 жыл бұрын
@@dallymoo7816 the meat troff. Drunken lasagna or something? The one where he says, "Drunken alcoholic rainbow pig."
@ItsTylesOrSomething
@ItsTylesOrSomething 12 күн бұрын
I still can't believe Harley went from my 9th grade Media teacher to a KZbin titan within like a year
@1337GameDev
@1337GameDev 2 жыл бұрын
They honestly could have kept things going if they did the following: 1. Create monster meals using odd means (eg: create soup inside a toilet over a camp fire, etc) 2. Find odd ingredients and try them 3. Have themed meals, especially ones with gag inducing ingredients 4. Had public booths with food creations they could sell -- particularly similar to Mr. Beast Burger 5. Have contests where people can come onto the show and suggest things to make / ingredients / outfits, etc 6. Try DIFFERENT kinds of bacon, cooked in different ways 7. Try different odd marinades / seasonings 8. Have special episodes about traditional food from around the world, and then create their own ridiculous version of it and have people from different backgrounds try it 9. Have public fundraisers with "eat-a-thons" and people pay to be involved to raise money for obesity They could have done so much, but i agree it's hard when you don't trust your partners / aren't as involved mentally in the content / show.
@CapCrunch45
@CapCrunch45 2 жыл бұрын
I would watch this. It sounds like a refreshing take on a classic.
@DualWieldFTW
@DualWieldFTW 2 жыл бұрын
I would legitimately love this. I'd subscribe to a streaming service to watch this if it were made a series. You should've been hired by Harley as a creative advisor.
@Blessed4infinity
@Blessed4infinity 2 жыл бұрын
You should do it. People will watch
@Briggie
@Briggie 2 жыл бұрын
They should have started catering or opened their own restaurant.
@LuvzToLol21
@LuvzToLol21 2 жыл бұрын
Thing is I'm pretty sure they've tried most if not all of this at some point. They've tried using more exotic (at least to most white guys) ingredients like in their turtle soup episode from like 2011. They've tried going full stupid, see the Valentine's Day episode where they tried to combine chocolate and various animal hearts. They did an episode in the maple syrup sugar shack that Muscles Glasses' father owned. They've done charity videos, live events, fundraisers, they had a TV show on Food Network for a bit, they sold their own brand of sauces and kitchen utensils, etc. Eventually the concept itself just got stale and the channel ran it's course.
@goldengrill769
@goldengrill769 Жыл бұрын
I feel like these guys represented the Millennial zeitgeist perfectly if you will. Bacon obsession, dudes with BEARDS, saying EPIC all the time, being an internet influencer before it was what everyone wanted to be (influencing stuff like the aforementioned bacon thing with every fast food chain using bacon and Millennial culture et. al. but also basically inventing Mukbang without knowing it, showing that if you have a dream you can do it on the internet). Like I grew up during these days and never really knew about youtube except as cat video place, then came EpicMealTime. Then came AngryVideogameNerd, then TotalBiscuit, PH2C, Pewdiepie and the rest is history.
@jdproductions6631
@jdproductions6631 2 жыл бұрын
Love theses videos sunny :) best in the state of ACT ahah
@MashaRistova
@MashaRistova 2 жыл бұрын
Funny how Harley says Muscles Glasses doesn’t matter for the channel because Muscles Glasses is literally the ONLY character I remember from when I used to watch. He was the most memorable and most marketable because he was also pretty hot. Harley shouldn’t have ever let him go. He was a huge part of the channels identity. I never even knew any of the other peoples names or nicknames.
@miguelruiz4613
@miguelruiz4613 Жыл бұрын
Never watched the show but i still knew who muscle glasses was
@thatcandian_guy3312
@thatcandian_guy3312 2 жыл бұрын
Beast video my guy ! Im new to this channel and im loving it watched all of them in a week . Keep em coming
@MasterOfSayajins
@MasterOfSayajins 2 жыл бұрын
We had so much fun, smoking blunts and rippin pipes while enjoying these guys :) wonderful time, and the crow sound was the cherry on the cake. LOVE YOU, GUYS
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