Red Paddle Co Voyager range / Comparison - Review Video

In this SUPboarder video we review and compare the Red Paddle Co Voyager range. To read the full Comparison - Review visit SUPboarder here : www.supboardermag.com/2018/03...
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[@jameshallworth8053]

Great video, really helped me in making my choice of touring board. The 12’6” Voyager turned out to be a great choice which ticks all the boxes I had. Thanks @supboarder!

[@SUPboardermag]

Great to hear it. Thanks for letting us know James.

[@andyjobling5796]

I bought the 13.2 last year I cant praise this board enough great glide great in chop I love this board. I have never tried the 12.6 so I can only comment on the 13.2

[@SUPboardermag]

Thanks for the comment Andy, good to hear it

[@Aleks_iz_Gadykino]

Good afternoon. I have a similar question, about a universal board. Only the choice between Voyager 13.2 and Elite 14x27. That at your look it will be better. It is planned to use 80% on the rivers, lakes and quiet water and 20% for the sea.

[@jorgetorregrosa7113]

Thanks, for the review! It’s a great help. For a Touring board, which one do you recommend: the 13’2 voyager Red paddle or the Starboard Touring 14” 30’? I am between both two but cannot decide. Thanks and regards

[@Aleks_iz_Gadykino]

I 'd choose Voyager. Yes, it is slightly shorter but has a larger maximum pressure of 25 PSI and stiffening ribs Rss

[@rubyzvlogz23]

I have the 10'8 ride and am looking to upgrade for a touring board. While not an expert my time over the last year on the 10'8 probably puts me in the intermediate category i.e. comfortable in calm water and carrying 1 or 2 kids at the same time and reasonably proficient in choppy water (both inland and sea). I am looking at the 13'2 at the moment for initially some smaller distance touring - probably going round islands on loch lomond (inland loch) or the west coast scotland/outer hebrides (sea paddling)- so probably covering distances of maybe 5 miles+ at a time but not likely more than 8-10 miles at a time. The 13'2 looks like it has plenty storage room. For a 92 kg man looking to lug some gear to camp while island hopping (tent, sleeping bag, camping/cooking utensils and some clothing etc) do you feel the 13'2 is the better bet over the 12'6 voyager? Additionally do you have any recommendations for dry bags to use with the voyager given what i am looking to carry? My main concern is flipping the board in choppy water as none of the dry bags i have researched to date say they are suitable for submersion even for a small period of time - of course i would want to keep tent and clothes dry. Many thanks.

[@SUPboardermag]

Hi Mike - some good questions there. With touring, the longer and narrower the board the more glide - which is great for better endurance. The 13'2 would be my preference at 67kg for that reason, but you will need to be confident that the step down in width from your ride will be ok otherwise you will waste your energy balancing. I like to Tour on a sub 30inch board ideally as they glide so much easier....personally i find the shorter voyager a bit too stable. Maybe try a board the same width as the 13'2 and see how you get on. Both have plenty of deck space for gear and i consider them 'proper' touring boards. Dry bags - check out my Crossing Scotland Video Blogs on SUPboarder and our youtube channel. I used a mix of Overboard and Sealine bags. They both worked well, but don't overload the overboard bags as they straps can fail. Double bag your gear to prevent the risk of anything getting wet. We are planning a HOW TO series on SUP touring over this spring summer which will look at explaining a lot of your Questions. Keep in touch, and consider using GeoSUP app fro some of your touring :) - Will | SUPboarder Team

[@potepuhec]

Hi SUPboarder, I really love your channel as it is hard to come by some decent informations about boards that aren't pure PR or description of the board. I own 10'6 Ride and shopping for a touring board for longer tours. The board will be used a lot and I want to get the most bang for my €. From info I managed to gather it boiled down to Fanatic Ray Air Premium 12'6, RPC Voyager 12'6 or 13'2 and Starboard Touring Deluxe DC 12'6 or 14. The boards are like 100€ apart where I can buy them. Which of those would you recommend the most for a 85kg man? Does better speed on longer boards compensate for worse handling in crosswind? Are there any other brands in the same ballpark I should check? What kind of board would you recommend for a 60kg woman for the same purpose? Many thanks.

[@SUPboardermag]

Hi, thanks for your comment - great you are looking at progressing into longer touring on your SUP - there is so many great adventures out there! You have narrowed down to some great products - the Fanatic lacks some of the features that a real touring board has such as rear tie down bungees, its more of a sport/cruising board, but this might be enough for you - watch out for more Touring HOW to coming soon on this. You can compare the features and dimensions of all the available products using the 'Compare' button here: www.supboardermag.com/equipment-guide/?_activity=touring-exploring&_construction=inflatable&_released=2019 The starboard and RPC 13'2 will mean you loose some width which will loose you some stability - might be worth looking at demoing some 30' wide board and seeing how comfortable you are on one - 30' will make the glide much better, but will reduce stability a little. This could narrow your search down a lot. Touring often means getting out into more choppy conditions. Personally i always try and tour on as along a board as possible, it improves glide a lot, but will mean you need to improve paddle techniques to manage the cross wind disadvantages. At 67 kg, i like to try and tour on a board 30' wide or less. At 60kg an intermediate paddler should look for 29' boards .... see this search for options; www.supboardermag.com/equipment-guide/?_width=26.00%2C29.00&_activity=touring-exploring&_construction=inflatable&_released=2019 Hope that helps a little??! Will | SUPboarder Team - SUP Touring & Exploring Expert

[@potepuhec]

Hi Will, thanks for the answers. Yesterday I managed to try out both red paddle boards and 13'2 was a bit less stable but it felt stable enough and I suppose that after getting used to it that shouldn't be a problem. I will put in needed time to develop paddling skills and all other that are needed to be a competent tourer. My main concern is that, with my limited experience, I'm not able to pick up all the differences between the boards while testing them. I suppose you've tested both red paddle Voyagers and both Starboard Touring Deluxe boards? Could you please give me your expert opinion on them regarding what is the difference between them. In term of durability, handling, gliding... and which would be in your opinion best suited for me in a long run. I will be using the board a lot... mostly on lakes, rivers and Adriatic sea... but I'm also going to use it and plan SUP tours on my travels which are mostly to the N part of Europe. Is there noticeable difference between those 2 brands that justify the price difference? And last question... what is the main difference compared to cheaper touring boards at lets say 900€ price range or even lower that also have double chamber,...? I hope it is more than just the brand name :). I know there are a lot of questions but your help and insight will be most appreciated. Many thanks.

[@SUPboardermag]

@@potepuhec Thanks for your questions - good you got to demo. Both these brands are premium brands, which in our experience doesn't just mean brand name - these companies have a lot of experience paddling, developing, finding the right designs and the right materials, managing top quality production and offering customer service (pre and post i.e. a demo...) , which all adds value to you. You might find it useful to watch this video that explains why we see so many different price points in the market and why that is. Its part of our paid subscriptions service that supports us giving good honest advice to paddlers all over the world... www.supboardermag.com/2019/05/04/where-do-you-start-buying-an-isup-in-2019/ In terms of the two boards, they are both premium brands and premium products and not a lot differentiates them. It may come down to the one you like the look of the most. One has the double chamber, but although this is a fantastic feature for stiffness a double chamber could be said to introduce a lot more potential for seam failure. So - everything comes at a compromise... Keep in touch, and i hope that all helps :) Will - SUPboarder Touring & Exploring Expert

[@seehongkongsea]

Great videos, please keep it up. One question, how does this second hand board fare against a 2023 Aqua Marina Hyper? Which would you choose between the 2 if they cost the same? The Red Paddle 2nd hand board is well maintained.

[@SUPboardermag]

The Red Voyager is a great board and if it has been well maintained, it would be a great choice. The 2023 Aqua Marina Hyper is also very good, but you might have a better experience paddling the Voyager. Thanks, Beau

[@seehongkongsea]

@@SUPboardermag thanks a lot mate. Really appreciate your feedback. Learnt a lot through your channel over the years!

[@shiroitake]

6:29 what's the make/model of this nice bright green jacket?

[@SUPboardermag]

Great jacket. Its an ION www.ion-products.com/water/men/tops/jackets/neo-cruise-jacket/ Its not the cheapest of stuff but well worth it. There's some other ION stuff we have reviewed on SUPboarder here that might be of interest : www.supboardermag.com/tag/ion/

[@leekolontu390]

Hi, what do you think, is the Voyager+ 13'2" stable enough to carry a kid along (for a not so much experienced paddler)? I believe, based on what I've seen, that Voyager 12'6" and Ride 10'6" are pretty comfortable for having a child sitting on a deck in front of a paddler. Many thanks.

[@SUPboardermag]

It will be possible but it really comes down to the overall weight of paddler and child? And if the child likes to sit still?! I paddle with my 4 year daughter on most boards from 26'' + wide up but she is happy to sit there and not move. What size kids are you talking about Leeko? Thanks Reuben / SUPboarder

[@nordiciceskater]

Soungs good. I too have a 4 year old daughter. My weight is ca 70 kg so the overall weight should not be an issue. The 13'2" Voyager+ is definitely an interesting option. Thanks!

[@SUPboardermag]

Jarkko Kaura the 13'2'' is a great board to paddle and will be great for both of you. Look out for a video feature we have coming out soon about getting kids into SUP too.

[@BenBenBenJohnson]

Hi, does the bag roll up small when touring? I would want to take the bag but not if it takes up lots of room. Many thanks

[@SUPboardermag]

Hey Ben It does go small but not really small because of the wheels on the bottom. You can and we have taken it touring its not idea but it does work. Be nice to see a Red Paddle Co, light weight touring bag offered in the future?? Thanks Reuben / SUPboarder

[@Aleks_iz_Gadykino]

Hi. I for trips instead of a bag use such system of carrying. m.baseg.ru/catalog/turizm/turisticheskoe_snaryazhenie/ryukzaki/transportnaya_sistema_baseg_ts_pauk_/ In it finds room - a board, the pump, an oar. I remove the rest in a waterproof bag.

[@eduardocortes-dv4lo]

what is the diferance betwen the 2018 model and the 2020??

[@SUPboardermag]

Board wise they are very similar. Warranty is longer, and small up grades to the finish overall.

[@samharry3390]

Hi SUPBOARDER, really liking your vids, what is your favourite red board from the whole red collection? Still not sure on what one to get

[@SUPboardermag]

That's a tough one... But the best board model range which most of the SUPboarder team own or use most is the Red Paddle Co Sports boards. It really depends on what you want to use it for?

[@samharry3390]

Yeah, mainly river and sea paddling. That’s what I use my perception hi life hybrid for. It’s just inflatables seem so much easier for transportation. Anyway, only sea and river. Portwrinkle and river Lynher from Wacker mainly

[@SUPboardermag]

Smoke Harry Sounds like a Red Paddle Co Sport would be great for cruising those spots. Go for the 11' if your sub 80kg and not going to carry loads of gear on it. Or a 12'6'' if + 80kg or more gear.

[@samharry3390]

Thanks that’s really helpful😊. Is there a speed difference between voyager and sport?

[@SUPboardermag]

Smoke Harry The Sports are slightly faster due to there overall weight being less. The 12'6'' Voyager been the slowest overall because its 32'' wide as well. 12'6 Sport is the fastest.

[@martinbull3692]

Hi, will you be doing a 12'6 sport review?

[@SUPboardermag]

At present we haven't got that one on our review schedule. But I can tell you a great board for general all round flatwater paddling. I have one for iSUP fishing. Thanks Reuben

[@martinbull3692]

SUPboarder cheers. I mostly paddle on a river but occasionally venture out to sea so seems like a good option! Was concerned about the extra thickness than the 11'

[@ragetobe]

Do you have an updated version of this video for the new versions of these boards?

[@SUPboardermag]

Unfortunately we haven't got a new review of these boards. But we have tested them in SUPboarder Pro test video and unfortunately they didn't do very well. Due to the lack of speed that the new fins don't give them. Well worth a sign up even for a month to see all these boards in test supboardermag.com/2021/08/16/inflatable-touring-test-2021-supboarder-pro-head-to-head/ Thanks Reuben

[@Aleks_iz_Gadykino]

@@SUPboardermag Согласен с тем что установка двух плавников на доски, вместо одного... Это огромный минус......

[@avecleneuf]

What app are you using to track your paddles in this video?

[@SUPboardermag]

Its called GeoSUP - currently available on Apple I Phone only, but will be available soon on Android. It has lots of SUP specific features and a real community using it :) Will | SUPboarder

[@avecleneuf]

SUPboarder thank you 🙂

[@pentachronic]

Surely weighting the 12’6” properly at the back would lift the nose up and it would glide better.

[@SUPboardermag]

Good comment and well worth saying. That did help but even if there is no bags on the board at all it was still wetter than the 13'2'' in the choppy stuff. Thanks Reuben

[@pentachronic]

Good to know. So we are talking about the drag due to surface area contact with the water as well as the hydrodynamic shape then. It would be interesting if they tried to make an SUP that has a convex (out of water) hull so there could be a slip stream in the middle. Curious if this has been tried ?

[@SUPboardermag]

Wow.. Now that's a new idea. I don't think its been done. I think you should get shaping Gazza!

[@pentachronic]

FYI, It’s called a dual hull and is the principle behind catamarans and speed boats. Even a slightly raised centre (out of the water) would reduce drag. However it makes the hull a lot more unstable!! It would have to be carefully designed and tested.

[@SUPboardermag]

Sounds good. We are up for testing it! There's so much good kit to be made yet.