Super Auto Pets Tier List But Correct This Time (Free + DLC)

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Northernlion

Northernlion

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@JBAIMARK3
@JBAIMARK3 3 жыл бұрын
We live in surreal times, a man spending near 3 hours ranking his virtual animal sticker collection, and me listening to his mad ramblings having never played the game.
@dankhank9299
@dankhank9299 3 жыл бұрын
The games free you know
@shwqa
@shwqa 3 жыл бұрын
And the game is on the phone.
@MehYam2112
@MehYam2112 3 жыл бұрын
You all have phones, don't you?
@muyleche_
@muyleche_ 3 жыл бұрын
its free on steam homie give it a shot
@lmaonicebud
@lmaonicebud 3 жыл бұрын
you should try it, it's so addictive the free pack is actually more fun than the paid pack imo, there's more viable strategies
@Forbizz
@Forbizz 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like this tier list should be labeled: S - Squeeze Me A - Juice Me B - Buy Me C - Sell Me D - I sleep
@DGTLCLANGAMING
@DGTLCLANGAMING 3 жыл бұрын
D - You piece?
@Destrolll
@Destrolll 3 жыл бұрын
C - roll me
@alexslater1051
@alexslater1051 3 жыл бұрын
Me you me you me you
@johnadam4117
@johnadam4117 3 жыл бұрын
@@DGTLCLANGAMING no they need to make a new tier called f - you piece
@chezblob3628
@chezblob3628 3 жыл бұрын
You piece
@AnisRussell
@AnisRussell 3 жыл бұрын
3:31 Ant (S) 4:13 A Hatching Chick (A) 5:12 Badger (C) 6:23 Bat (A) 7:39 Beaver (B) 8:21 Beetle (B) 10:39 Bison (A) 11:59 Blowfish (C) 13:20 Bluebird (C) 15:20 Buffalo (B) 17:16 Camel (C) 20:13 Caterpillar (A) 22:21 Cat (A) 26:16 Chicken (D) 27:17 Squirrel (D) 29:00 Cow (S) 31:15 Crab (A) 33:43 Cricket (C) 40:00 Crocodile (D) 42:42 Deer (B) 44:23 Dodo (C) 48:32 Dog (B) 50:36 Dolphin (C) 52:07 Dragon (A) 53:27 Dromedary (C) 54:52 Duck (Dogshit) 1:00:09 Eagle (C) 1:03:11 Elephant (C) 1:05:34 Fish (A) 1:08:11 Flamingo (C) 1:09:20 Fly (A) 1:11:33 Giraffe (C) 1:13:28 Goat (D) 1:16:30 Gorilla (C) 1:18:21 Hedgehog (D) 1:19:39 Hippo (A) 1:21:05 Horse (D) 1:25:00 Kangaroo (B) 1:26:36 Ladybug (C) 1:28:10 Leopard (D) 1:30:45 Llama (D) 1:33:48 Lobster (D) 1:35:14 Mammoth (D) 1:37:45 Microbe (B) 1:39:21 Monkey (A) 1:41:38 Mosquito (B) 1:43:55 Octopus (C) 1:45:40 Otter (B) 1:48:12 Owl (B) 1:50:03 Ox (B) 1:51:20 Parrot (D) 1:53:17 Peacock (C) 1:56:24 Penguin (C) 1:57:25 Pig (D) 2:01:10 Poodle (B) 2:02:37 Puppy (A) 2:03:20 Rabbit (B) 2:05:10 Chicken Karaage (S) 2:06:30 Rat (C) 2:08:05 Rhino (B) 2:09:00 Rooster (A) 2:11:09 Sauropod (D) 2:12:10 Scorpion (S) 2:14:13 Seal (D) 2:15:19 Shark (B) 2:16:02 Sheep (B) 2:16:53 Shrimp (C) 2:18:21 Skunk (D) 2:20:23 Snail (A) 2:21:43 Snake (S) 2:23:11 Spider (C) 2:24:25 Swan (B) 2:25:24 T-Rex (S) 2:27:56 Tabby Cat (D) 2:28:25 Tiger (S) 2:29:51 Tropical Fish (C) 2:30:35 Turkey (A) 2:31:19 Turtle (A/S) 2:32:49 Whale (B) 2:33:32 Worm (A)
@kade6427
@kade6427 3 жыл бұрын
Legend!
@symawi312
@symawi312 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for doing god's work
@finalshade14
@finalshade14 3 жыл бұрын
You sweet summer child, bless you
@andersonsmith8625
@andersonsmith8625 3 жыл бұрын
Not that it matters but amoeba is called microbe so it fits the alphabetical order
@AnisRussell
@AnisRussell 3 жыл бұрын
@@andersonsmith8625 edited. Now the only one out of order is Squirrel 🙏
@mondits
@mondits 3 жыл бұрын
In a thousand years, once all these animals vanish off the face of the Earth, this tier list will be the new Bible.
@Juules32
@Juules32 3 жыл бұрын
Underrated comment
@brandonbyrnes6302
@brandonbyrnes6302 3 жыл бұрын
with the ant ruling over them all
@alexanderkonczal3908
@alexanderkonczal3908 3 жыл бұрын
Do androids dream of SAP?
@tobyvision
@tobyvision 3 жыл бұрын
@@brandonbyrnes6302 Ant remains S tier.
@styxrakash4639
@styxrakash4639 2 жыл бұрын
And on the 5th day northernlion made the A tier ducks
@Sasiskin7823
@Sasiskin7823 3 жыл бұрын
In a month time: "Listen, Pig is A tier animal, Shrimp Scampi meta is making a come back, you just get an early dragon and go "Him him me him me" suddenly all your pets are 50/50"
@TheOneTrueAnswer
@TheOneTrueAnswer 3 жыл бұрын
Just wait until Armadillo gets released.
@anilzoc
@anilzoc 3 жыл бұрын
Just wait till the armed human appears
@TheOneTrueAnswer
@TheOneTrueAnswer 3 жыл бұрын
@@anilzoc Just wait until the one armed bandit appears
@Dindonmasker
@Dindonmasker 3 жыл бұрын
He did just play a lvl 3 scampi for the sticker so it kinda counts?
@Biosquid239
@Biosquid239 2 жыл бұрын
Just wait till you can roll the 1/1 stairs and ravioli on me
@gelatine_ac
@gelatine_ac 3 жыл бұрын
The fact that NL edited out his bathroom break, just goes to show how much effort he put into this SAP tier list.
@sock7896
@sock7896 3 жыл бұрын
editing??????????????????????????
@chezblob3628
@chezblob3628 3 жыл бұрын
Wait did he pause the recording or did he edit it out? Cause both are very different levels of effort. Where's the time stamp I have to know!
@pauledwards2052
@pauledwards2052 3 жыл бұрын
This.
@heykak
@heykak 3 жыл бұрын
@@chezblob3628 1:02:30
@CastafioreOnYoutube
@CastafioreOnYoutube 3 жыл бұрын
Holy brsh...
@MadDannyWest
@MadDannyWest 3 жыл бұрын
NL went from talking like a layman in the first video to speaking like a theoretical physicist in this one.
@kurt4245
@kurt4245 3 жыл бұрын
Underrated comment 👏
@measlesplease1266
@measlesplease1266 3 жыл бұрын
What SAP does to a nigga.
@Krichnu
@Krichnu 3 жыл бұрын
@@thealphas1 Yeah black people don't watch twitch streamers you are right...
@landlubbr
@landlubbr 3 жыл бұрын
@@thealphas1 Weird comment my dude
@emmettrichardson5833
@emmettrichardson5833 Жыл бұрын
​@Krichnu fr that is a weird comment bro, you gotta explain
@1dr_wall769
@1dr_wall769 3 жыл бұрын
Strategic upload to induce maximum chaos in the meta right after getting Ludwig addicted to SAP
@BenAllenGames
@BenAllenGames 3 жыл бұрын
followed your wisdom to a T after this video. all tempo early units. random beefy with garlic in front, two crabs with meat behind, tier 2 rabbit and monkey behind that. just bought lots of cupcakes and misc food to buff the blowfish. went 10 and 0. GOAT tier list
@Matt-ov1qp
@Matt-ov1qp 3 жыл бұрын
Only thing I'd change is I'd put dog into tier S. I think it's just the most consistent 10 win carry in the game because you get it so early and there is so much synergy out there for it. You can even just throw a crab behind it at any time and you have 2 beefy units, and you can chain crabs as long as the higher attack crab is closer to the front. The early game focus in this list is really good. Still, on turn 3 or turn 4 I'm looking for a dog over anything else. I think he was undervaluing it in this list given the dog is basically the ideal unit for his strategy of making one unit a huge stat stick consistently.
@tobyvision
@tobyvision 3 жыл бұрын
@@Matt-ov1qp Now that everyone seems to understand the crab is basically backwards original dodo, I think Crab may be getting a nerf eventually.
@Phoenix0F8
@Phoenix0F8 3 жыл бұрын
"Health is the most important stat in the game" "Skunk is one of the worst units in the game" *visible confusion*
@13kumiko
@13kumiko 2 жыл бұрын
It's wild at the time he didn't respect the tier 3 skunk with a steak at your front line.
@octopusexperiment1931
@octopusexperiment1931 2 жыл бұрын
This is definitely the part of the video that aged the worst
@mighty_kul8264
@mighty_kul8264 2 жыл бұрын
@@octopusexperiment1931 that and rabbit
@aballenger666
@aballenger666 2 жыл бұрын
5.56 error y error reporter was created 7rrr7r6r 5.56 6rr55trrr76r5r
@shmaughn
@shmaughn 3 жыл бұрын
"If youve got two great units you can fill the rest with scorpions" thats me on a friday night baby
@derekw9724
@derekw9724 3 жыл бұрын
Confused and pleased to be reading this
@verbfrombonsai8852
@verbfrombonsai8852 3 жыл бұрын
I love running a scorpion monkey, feeding it till it gets to 21 attack so it can 1 shot melon users. I only run it with auto-scalers tho like bison.
@alejoiiiovalles9906
@alejoiiiovalles9906 2 жыл бұрын
@@verbfrombonsai8852 That's genius
@orangeguy5463
@orangeguy5463 3 жыл бұрын
30 year old argues with himself for nearly 3 hours. Audience can't get enough.
@pewter_wiz
@pewter_wiz 3 жыл бұрын
2 hours 40 minutes of tier list content sending pogs straight to my frontal cortex!
@SLCclimber
@SLCclimber 3 жыл бұрын
Can we get a comment on the recent appearance of the daisy-chain crab build? Aka: a 50 health unit at the front, with 4 lvl 1 crabs all with meat on them that get 50 health from the front unit then give it to the crab behind them? It's a "look upon me, and despair" build.
@mizxecio
@mizxecio 3 жыл бұрын
I replied just now but lost this somehow so typing again - Hadn't really noticed this build or thought of it so I've just done a little test. 7 wins twice but I'm not convinced, there are some potential anomalies which make it unreliable to play IMHO. That last run, with a board of L2 Shark+melon, L2 Monkey+melon, L1 crab 9 atk+meat, L1 crab 10 atk+meat, L3 fish + melon (it was at something like 40/42 on that last round), wiped where I'd have won the round, because the 2nd crab got the buff from the 1st crab, before the fish buffed it... so a 9/9 rather than a 9/42. Better units at the back could have saved that round, or 4 crabs, but then there's the potential for the buff order problem, which could have given me worse units than I had. In my first run, with 3 crabs, of all the turns I had all three out, the third one only got the 1st units health once!! I don't pay as much attention to the ability order as I should, but it seems to do badly against sniping builds? On one round in that first run, all three crabs were sniped before the first unit had buffed them.
@zga042
@zga042 3 жыл бұрын
this doesn't work because abilities proc left to right?
@MCSTINKYWEINER
@MCSTINKYWEINER 3 жыл бұрын
Abilities proc randomly for some reason, same reason why dodo cheetah doesn't always work
@josephmalaj5349
@josephmalaj5349 3 жыл бұрын
y'all, the crab chain works, you just have to organize crabs from the front in order of highest damage. just got an easy 10win with 3 crabs feeding each other
@Scroolewse
@Scroolewse 3 жыл бұрын
@@josephmalaj5349 Is the ability order based off of damage?
@M3GAMAN100
@M3GAMAN100 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine falling asleep to this with your iPad on your chest, only psychos would do that
@Mangiff
@Mangiff 3 жыл бұрын
I STRONGLY disagree with the Skunk placement. That thing is an absolute Monster. All you need is to get it to level 2 and you will almost always break through Melon armored Enemy Carries in a single hit. It works pretty much in every Lineup and it can even make great use of a tiger. Getting it to lvl 3 is a waste though, because you will almost always break enemy carries with 1 hit after a 66% health reduction. It has great Synergy with different units (All scaling units, Rhino, Hippo, Leopard etc.) and requires almost no gold investement, while completely shutting down one (or two) enemy carries. Its only weakness would be heavy summon lineups, but barely anybody plays those nowadays ... The Skunk is definitely a game changing Unit that can win you the game.
@lauralide4804
@lauralide4804 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tip! That sounds reasonable. Gonna try it out when I get the chance
@TM1337FalconPunch
@TM1337FalconPunch 3 жыл бұрын
Skunk also hard counters caterpillar, which can be pretty clutch
@jenishpatelbmc
@jenishpatelbmc 2 жыл бұрын
in recent streams he is pro skunk now
@Vario69
@Vario69 2 жыл бұрын
Three months later NL is taking it almost every time 😂😂
@To9R
@To9R 3 жыл бұрын
Agree with most of the ratings, except for Skunk in F. In pay to win meta, it's such a good counter against butterfly comps. Every time I level it up to at least lvl 2, it's mostly GG 10Wins in the current meta for me. At the very least a B-tier.
@trevorallen8514
@trevorallen8514 3 жыл бұрын
There's so many counters to butterfly tho I can agree skunk is slightly better than F tier it's just not that viable unless you get 10 straight wins , after round 10 a skunk is not as viable as alot of the other units .
@namavoid3266
@namavoid3266 3 жыл бұрын
something tells me that in another month this is gonna be completely different again.
@coledorillo6685
@coledorillo6685 3 жыл бұрын
Thats what it takes to be the GOAT of SAP.
@timsimon8665
@timsimon8665 3 жыл бұрын
Seems unlikely since he now firmly believes he's "solved" SAP and always plays the same units, and constantly insults anyone in chat who dares defend a unit he doesn't like.
@hautoa1513
@hautoa1513 3 жыл бұрын
@@timsimon8665 tbf he gets consistent wins
@PuroOsso753
@PuroOsso753 3 жыл бұрын
@@timsimon8665 tell me you got yelled by NL without telling me you got yelled by NL
@patrickfreeman6851
@patrickfreeman6851 3 жыл бұрын
@@timsimon8665 Well yeah but he did that in duck meta, man’s just very confident
@playboicourti0957
@playboicourti0957 3 жыл бұрын
The part about the cat “It’s part or the engine instead of the wheels” just made me sub😂😂
@Philosophe4
@Philosophe4 3 жыл бұрын
One of the utilities of the squirrel is that if you buy it to end your turn... you can freeze 2 food and ensure that those 2 show up next turn's shop... useful mid - late game to try and roll 2 chocolates (for example)
@SerialBull
@SerialBull 3 жыл бұрын
@@elijahagustino3605 you would sell it next turn tho
@Ploob96
@Ploob96 3 жыл бұрын
@@SerialBull so you get three rerolls and save 1 gold. Nice
@nickveith9727
@nickveith9727 3 жыл бұрын
@@elijahagustino3605 I don't think its good, but its not equivalent to 3 rerolls. When fishing for chocolate, rerolling is way worse since you freeze the first chocolate when you get it
@SpongeKiller42
@SpongeKiller42 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the free win.
@MaybeBlackMesa
@MaybeBlackMesa 3 жыл бұрын
Let's ACTUALLY go
@Corei14
@Corei14 3 жыл бұрын
Where? Dude I already signed up, cleared my schedule and waxed my dome.
@phillipwalton-young7209
@phillipwalton-young7209 3 жыл бұрын
First he disrespected turtle, now it's the skunk. A percentage based start trigger that bypasses armor AND can be doubled by tiger? You can knock 2 units to 1 HP at the start of battle but it's bad? I don't buy it.
@styfen
@styfen 3 жыл бұрын
He's still dissing on the Duck despite proof from people like Richard Hammer that it enables 10 win games. It's all scrambled from this gourd.
@symawi312
@symawi312 3 жыл бұрын
I have NEVER seen anyone get to lvl 3 skunk in all my time of playing I think it's just very hard to get too cause it feels very rare
@sauceploxx4565
@sauceploxx4565 3 жыл бұрын
Tiger with skunk was so good in my one run. Literally ate high stated units for breakfast
@secondsolstice8695
@secondsolstice8695 3 жыл бұрын
@@symawi312 I just completed a 10 win with a level 2.66 skunk and I honestly didn't want to win because I wanted it to get to lvl3. I literally rolled the last 6 coins, didn't get the last skunk and still won the last round lol
@tobyvision
@tobyvision 3 жыл бұрын
@@symawi312 I try and try to get a big skunk. I've never even gotten one to lvl 2. Right now all my 10 wins come from racing to 10 instead of making strongest possible teams, so maybe that's part of it.
@TheRoonage
@TheRoonage 3 жыл бұрын
This is the moneyball sequel we’ve all been waiting for. When they look at a cricket at the back they think “that’s gonna turn some losses into draws” when I look at a cricket, I see a fundamental failure in understanding how wins are made. You don’t want to be buying long term scaling. You want to be buying wins right now. Stats on a unit you’re probably not going to keep don’t matter. Money-Me, starring Ryan Letourneau
@dancingfishfilms
@dancingfishfilms 3 жыл бұрын
S tier comment
@tobyvision
@tobyvision 3 жыл бұрын
The new 10 heart update definitely seems to favor racing to wins instead of building synergy.
@finsfan13929
@finsfan13929 3 жыл бұрын
I legit got an immediate 10 win one loss after watching. Focused one large swan with a crab behind it, monkey buffing the swan, and dodo buffing the crab. The level 3 hippo in the 4th slot barely even mattered. The front load meta is actually insane, thank you egg for the knowledge. Edit: TWO IN A ROW BABY
@KoopaKrump
@KoopaKrump 3 жыл бұрын
I'm loving the front load meta. Skunk is FEASTING right now making crabs copy a 1 health pet.
@Drekromancer
@Drekromancer 3 жыл бұрын
@@KoopaKrump pain
@joebo6044
@joebo6044 3 жыл бұрын
This is actually a really good list. I personally think mammoth is C tier and Rooster S but i agree with you on almost everything.
@TheMarkoSeke
@TheMarkoSeke 3 жыл бұрын
2:33:02 Such a misplay to place the whale in front of the sheep. Needed the whale behind the sheep to eat it.
@plasmatr
@plasmatr 3 жыл бұрын
They changed the health system such that the early game losses are less impactful. This boosts the value of the duck because it guarantees a stronger mid-game. I've worked with a guaranteed loss with 3 ducks and completely sold all 3 ducks in a round to buy 4 new animals and it pops off insanely for the mid-game. Wouldn't say it is an A-tier but definitely an investment that you could gamble for now.
@Xeroxias
@Xeroxias 3 жыл бұрын
Pig is great for dragon procs and for mid-game pets like the dog and the shrimp (both of which I respect). It's not something you want to run, and it's not great early, but I think it ranks higher than D.
@Parafusion69
@Parafusion69 3 жыл бұрын
Also it is a piggy bank! You save the extra money for later when it has more value.
@ThomasReichJ
@ThomasReichJ 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed. You don't want to see it early but it's use later in certain builds drags it out of D imo.
@Garmanddarksun
@Garmanddarksun 3 жыл бұрын
This is a recurring Ryab problem. He looks at everything from 1 side, then swaps, and reevaluates everything from his new viewpoint, forgetting everything. THe last Tierlist was heavy on the mid/late game combos. Now he just looks at the first time a unit shows up and nothing else.
@inumitovd7900
@inumitovd7900 3 жыл бұрын
@@Garmanddarksun I know, but it's kind of hard to evaluate fairly late game units when you dont draw a single match... The 10 lives patch made early losses far less punishing but early wins are still more valuable imo
@EcclesiastesLiker-py5ts
@EcclesiastesLiker-py5ts 2 жыл бұрын
I would have to disagree, it's just so niche that it can't be higher than D. Yeah, it has uses, but you never want to be using it when it's initially available, it needs you to be building around certain other things and others do what it does but better. It's not the worst pet, but definitely D.
@Yinoit
@Yinoit 3 жыл бұрын
See you guys later next month for the next tier list
@wyattwade129
@wyattwade129 3 жыл бұрын
I love NL's comments section because you always know what your getting when you go into it
@motimusjav
@motimusjav 3 жыл бұрын
This tier list is much better than the last speedrun tier list. I would pretty much agree with everything. That duck placement though...you piece... Recently got my first flawless with the new intel and plays. Big thanks, NL!
@C_Kiri
@C_Kiri 3 жыл бұрын
So let's break down Chipmunk being the single worst animal in the game, because I think it is downright fascinating just how bad it is. - It's a tier 4 so you're seeing it kinda late - You need an open space to buy an animal, so you have to have something you want rid of, kind of a tough ask when you're seeing tier 4s - You get a shop of like 7 food for the three gold spent buying the chipmunk. You are seeing one additional food compared to if you had just spent that gold rerolling - This also means you're sacrificing seeing 12-15 infinitely better animals depending on where you are in the game, which you would have seen if you had just been rerolling - Most of the food in this game, statistically, is either equipment which you only need one of per unit, or randomly distributed +1s or +2s. You will see a random amount of these, so that's basically two layers of RNG you're working with. - If you see the food you want, you still need to go -3 gold to actually purchase the food, per food you want by the way, so it is incredibly unlikely you will get any more value than even just one reroll - All of this and it doesn't even have the decency to be anything stronger than a 2/2 - Compare and contrast Cow, which is only one tier higher, and it gives you the guarantee of two milks for free, giving you all the food synergy without the ridiculous goddamn chipmunk payment plan, and on top of that honestly both those milks are above average as far as food goes in this game because you can distribute them with intent - In the case of Cow, it only costs 5 gold to purchase Cow, get value, distribute milk, sell cow, and buy a replacement, so half your turn to give +4/+4 to whatever you want and pick up like a Scorpion or something - In order to do the same with Chipmunk, you have to spend 3 gold on Chipmunk, 6 gold on pears, one gold on a reroll, sell the chipmunk to get one back, then three gold to buy a new animal. That means it costs a total of 12 gold to emulate even a fraction of the Cow's power, so you'd need to sell a level 2 or have some combination of swans for it to be even theoretically possible to not end turn with a shitty 2/2. Chipmunk is pioneering F-tier IMO, it's seriously that bad. Here's hoping we can see some justice because the emoji is cute and deserves better representation.
@ivanbird372
@ivanbird372 3 жыл бұрын
I average 7/8 wins a run and regularly buy chipmunk. It doesn't always hit but i value canned food and chocolate very highly, especially with a cat. Plus it can search for melon armor late game
@C_Kiri
@C_Kiri 3 жыл бұрын
@@ivanbird372 Wow I can't believe you just admitted to giving gold and wins away for free live on the internet. You're so generous! :P
@ivanbird372
@ivanbird372 3 жыл бұрын
@@C_Kiri Just had 3 10 wins yesterday ;) its better than you think but ill try playing without it to see if it changes anything
@JayMonoto
@JayMonoto 3 жыл бұрын
Chipmunk? My man Kiri playing on Animal Pack 2 in 2021
@fleiftorben
@fleiftorben 3 жыл бұрын
The Ant as the best unit in the game is so funny, dude.
@UnknownRayDar
@UnknownRayDar 3 жыл бұрын
Did you.. not hear what he said about it? It isn't THE BEST UNIT IN THE GAME, it is just reaaaal damn good when you get it. Which is round 1. Where you either win or lose by 1 health
@fleiftorben
@fleiftorben 3 жыл бұрын
@@UnknownRayDar I know. I watched the video. I don't think it's not based. It's just still hilarious to me.
@lynxerax7011
@lynxerax7011 3 жыл бұрын
When you consider the context the units first appear in, I don't even think it's that crazy. Specific units early game have way more impact on final result
@UnknownRayDar
@UnknownRayDar 3 жыл бұрын
@@fleiftorben Ah, that makes sense. My bad
@inumitovd7900
@inumitovd7900 3 жыл бұрын
If Ant were a base 2/2 it'd probably kick all the other animals off NL's S tier
@jackmallinson7269
@jackmallinson7269 3 жыл бұрын
Something to note about the leopard and animals like it, they can kill the butterfly before it gains stats! Can be huge for the later levels when everyone and their mother has a butterfly or two.
@MCMCvirguleMC
@MCMCvirguleMC 3 жыл бұрын
hear me out, new unit : bear. Auto win against the eggshell hat 80% of the time, 20% it faints.
@samueltaylor6421
@samueltaylor6421 3 жыл бұрын
So much pog in this no-gameplay video, it's insane. Tierlists are cool, sure. Absolutely dunking on everyone who disagreed with him? Based. Getting carried away with dunking on people and having to apologize to a dev? Hilarious. Richard Hammer banter? Tremendous, now I'm probably going to try Dog + Llama too. Quick meal break? Looked delicious. Time management? Exquisite. How do you do it NL? My gourd overfloweth once again.
@homeworksdone2378
@homeworksdone2378 3 жыл бұрын
The point of the duck is you don’t run it! You buy duck, roll(once or twice) sell duck, buy out the shop on turn two. It is a 2 cost (+1/1)*2 or 3, no other early turn two/three utility is that good. There is an observational bias against the duck because the duck does work on sell so you don’t see it in the builds that use it right.
@tobyvision
@tobyvision 3 жыл бұрын
This is pretty much what I always do with a duck.
@theburnedman3209
@theburnedman3209 3 жыл бұрын
Skunk will cause a 50 50 with melon armor to loose against any unit with 50 attack and it hard counters butterfly builds. One day you will respect it.
@demetriustrismegistus4367
@demetriustrismegistus4367 3 жыл бұрын
yeah but so can a mosquito lmao. Any animal with direct damage does that
@theburnedman3209
@theburnedman3209 3 жыл бұрын
@@demetriustrismegistus4367 Fake news. Tell me what other tire 3 direct damage unit can cause a 50 50 to be taken out by a 1 1 or a 50 50 with melon armor to be taken out by a 21 1?
@measlesplease1266
@measlesplease1266 3 жыл бұрын
@Tathar i can make any unit work. I literally just base my decisions on what achievements I need right now.
@measlesplease1266
@measlesplease1266 3 жыл бұрын
@@theburnedman3209 tbh skunk is just hella rare for me. I dunno bout other people. I even forget it's in the game.
@theburnedman3209
@theburnedman3209 3 жыл бұрын
@@measlesplease1266 You will remember it forever when the skunk uprising destroys everything crab meta stands for.
@Wertsir
@Wertsir 3 жыл бұрын
Good tier list. But an early duck can do gangbusters in the first few rounds. It definitely falls off heavily after round 2 though.
@tomsweeney7922
@tomsweeney7922 3 жыл бұрын
If you can get three ducks in the first two rounds, you can go into round three with some insane unit stats that'll carry you through the mid game. I got to 10 wins once largely off of a blowfish i got upgrading then selling a Lv2 Duck. Duck are basically all or nothing though
@SpongeKiller42
@SpongeKiller42 3 жыл бұрын
Ran 5 ducks with a peacock and a camel. Shit WAS gangbusters. 10 win Marty.
@JanMaykiel
@JanMaykiel 3 жыл бұрын
ducks are risk reward play
@Dedjkeorrn42
@Dedjkeorrn42 3 жыл бұрын
duck is more risk than is worth for my money
@homesinc
@homesinc 3 жыл бұрын
@@Dedjkeorrn42 the trick with ducks is to not go all in, but to have 2 ducks on turn 3 is something else.
@doomcaptain9478
@doomcaptain9478 3 жыл бұрын
Argument for Skunk: In the extreme late game, skunk has an important niche, which is giving your 50/50 unit a better trade against theirs. Ideally theirs and yours will have melon armor at this point, the skunk allows your 50/50 to one-shot theirs, and live with 20 hp remaining. I've never used a skunk like this, but I have lost to teams that run this. Alternatively, the team running the skunk can have a 50/something rooster, that way they're guaranteed to kill your next 2 units for the price of rooster + skunk. It's likely your second unit will also be incredibly strong, so you're not missing out by playing the skunk, but your opponent is missing out for losing their first 2 units.
@XenithShadow
@XenithShadow 3 жыл бұрын
A more relavent effect of a skunk is that it kill's a crab comp since all the crab will copy the 1 hp or what ever low hp their front liner end up with.
@galientdomo454
@galientdomo454 3 жыл бұрын
I am just gonna predict something. Crab meta is going to grow and snipe meta is the hard counter. Just lost a beautiful crab squad against crocs.
@mellow3995
@mellow3995 3 жыл бұрын
you gotta do a tier list of all the consumable items, there's only like 12 of them i think but it would still be cool
@inumitovd7900
@inumitovd7900 3 жыл бұрын
If Nl's going to do another sap animal tier list we can hope for it, otherwise unlikely since it would take like less than 5 minutes... Imo items/food can too easily be divided in unusable garbage and necessary at some stage tiers
@Weqct
@Weqct 2 жыл бұрын
He could say what they pair good with
@MrNeedleMau5
@MrNeedleMau5 3 жыл бұрын
I been saying duck is trash since the jump. Saccing early losses to scale tier 1 units is brain-dead
@measlesplease1266
@measlesplease1266 3 жыл бұрын
I do it if the shop is garbage and I keep getting trash. Good for gettinh peacock or caml off the groud even with 1 or 2.
@MehYam2112
@MehYam2112 3 жыл бұрын
You can freeze a duck turn one or two, but not to keep on your squad
@ninjacell2999
@ninjacell2999 3 жыл бұрын
Tbf nl loves scaling tier 1 units
@inumitovd7900
@inumitovd7900 3 жыл бұрын
@@ninjacell2999 scaling tier 1s gives a big advantage until mid game
@trevorallen8514
@trevorallen8514 3 жыл бұрын
@@inumitovd7900 that's because if you can win early this game can be won 9 times out of 10 with good stats and items on any unit . You will lose every once in a while to op teams . But if you draw a few/ lose a few times in the beginning and know your going pass round 10 that's when you want to build good teams .
@OversizedSquid
@OversizedSquid 3 жыл бұрын
Crabs are so common now because of you. Crabs are so freaking strong
@lewisfowler9697
@lewisfowler9697 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly the Chicken is underrated by everyone. I've got 3. 10 wins with that magical creature in some of my first ever P2W runs.
@elijahtorres9699
@elijahtorres9699 3 жыл бұрын
I've had the pleasure to use chicken and dragon on the same squad with 3 wins, and I pounded 7 wins on 1 life. While it's definitely situational, the chicken can be super strong
@Pedun42
@Pedun42 3 жыл бұрын
Chicken is also the most fun unit to play
@rewop322
@rewop322 3 жыл бұрын
Chicken is phenomenal but you have to release your attachment to your squad, in 2-3 turns your shop out scales your board. If you can get animals with any decent text (esp scorpion) you will win handily
@barrymccaucner9316
@barrymccaucner9316 3 жыл бұрын
I love how he trashes duck because whenever it's on an opponent squad he beats it, but when on turn 3 people have squads with insane stats, he's like "how is that possible" (Edit: 1:45:24 lmao). Of course you beat them when they're on the board, they have on-sell effects. From my experience, using 1 duck isn't very helpful, 2 is quite good, and 3 or more is insane, and your turn 3 units become run-defining. I ran a build while I was listening to the start of this (f2p vs only f2p) and I got 3 ducks turn 1, one more and ant + honey on turn 2 to try to tie (I didn't). 2 losses down, a fifth duck in the shop, 10 gold. I sell a duck, freeze a unit, buy a duck. Now I have 8 gold, 4 ducks to sell makes 12, so I have four rolls. I end up finding dog + dodo + dodo, so my squad turn 3 after buffs is 2/1 ant + honey in the front, then starting from the back it's a 5/7 dodo that makes the next dodo a 10/7 which makes a dog (got 2 health triggers, admittedly lucky) a 16/8. This squad can beat a good turn 5 squad. Just using regular flex-slot (buy/sell) scaling, I was able to go 10-2-0 -- the two losses were the first two rounds. You're right in that the early game health and wins are important, because that's the way you play. But it's not the only way to play, sometimes you can use your early health as a resource to leverage an advantage that will win you games. Sometimes the build falls off and you don't find a good pivot, and you get 5-9 wins, but with 4 or more ducks in the first 2 turns, I've never gone less than 5 wins. I don't think it's your fault not to realize that though, I think it speaks volumes on the game that it's so simple, yet we can play so differently that a D-tier unit for you is S-tier for me, and we can both be winning players. Idk if you can see your stats in the game, but pre-patch I got a 5x 10-win streak f2p once, using early ducks for I think 3 of them, and I never abandon runs. Take from this what you will
@MCSTINKYWEINER
@MCSTINKYWEINER 3 жыл бұрын
Its not good
@verbfrombonsai8852
@verbfrombonsai8852 3 жыл бұрын
Things that can go wrong with the duck: - You don't get good tier 2 units on your sell round - NL brought up a powerful counter against duck buffed squads, meat 🍖 costs only 2 and you don't have to risk your early lives to get one. - Pivoting to tier 3,4,5, and 6, especially if scenario 1 happened to you. Dogs and Dodos are a mist with duck builds since they either auto scale or apply buffs relative to their stats. But what is an elephant or a spider do after tier 2? Not much Averaging it out, I think it can still be B tier? But yeah, when ranking units, you also gotta count what can go wrong and if there are alternatives where there is less that can go wrong.
@barrymccaucner9316
@barrymccaucner9316 3 жыл бұрын
@@verbfrombonsai8852 Meat doesn't counter early buffs because you're hitting 3 units. You won't have the health to support more than one attack against units buffed with 3+ ducks. Remember what I said about the round when I sold ducks; I had 4 ducks and 10 gold and only had to find 3 decent units, so I was able to roll 5 times if necessary. It's certainly possible to find nothing in 5 rolls, but by that reasoning, shop luck can tank any strategy. It doesn't just have to be dodo and dog. Shrimp will be a 5/4 or higher, and will give health to your other strong units along the way; best paired with a dog or another shrimp. Otter or fish are smaller to start by a couple of stats, but you're happy to spend 3 gold for +1/+1 on a unit that's already massive that early, and it'll scale the rest of your squad for later. What's an elephant (or rat) gonna do? It's gonna rear up your squad with a 6/8 or higher; that's reasonable for several turns. Some synergies can work out when you hold it too; I've run it with camel and pufferfish, it's ok. Anyway, much like the rest of the game, you still have to be able to play from ahead, but the point is that you're ahead. I could agree to B-tier, since you hate to see only one or two early, then none ever again. But if you let it, it'll define your early game and set you ahead. So really it's B tier because it can either be S or D depending on shop luck. Just like how you can roll 6 times without seeing a tier 1 in the shop with a dragon, or pick up food-buff creatures, then only see pills; that's the game.
@verbfrombonsai8852
@verbfrombonsai8852 3 жыл бұрын
@@barrymccaucner9316 Dude, it only takes 1 turn at most to catch up to ducks. You only need to buff up 7 more hp on one unit to effectively trade with 3 ducked up units. After that, you have a 4v2. Dogs can do that easily. Otters and beavers can help you get there. Ants can do that. Fishes can do that. Levelling your units does that. Of course it isn't a guarantee. You can have shitty luck and lose 1 turn to a 4 squad marty. But at the very least, you still have three health to catch up. After literally one turn, you can immediately equalize. In the grand scheme of things, 3 ducks give you a 9 stat advantage at the cost of two lives. Other early game strats can do the same for less than that.
@verbfrombonsai8852
@verbfrombonsai8852 3 жыл бұрын
@@barrymccaucner9316 I used to run ducks. It just isn't consistent. If you need three of them and two of your lives to pop, it doesn't deserve s-tier. I love the occasional buff dogs and crabs and dodos that I will pair with roosters later, but just playing for wins is easier and allows for more unlucky shit (that you didn't impose on yourself)
@Pinstar
@Pinstar 3 жыл бұрын
I had one run where I got the chicken on tier 4 via combine and ran with it. It isn't S tier, maybe not A tier either, but it is good. Between it and cans I had my shop animals at like +30/+30. If a shop animal has more buff stats on it than your existing animal the merged unit takes the higher stats. In a way the chicken is a time delay dragon with the upside of making it easier to replace core members of the team. That said, it is hot garbage if you get it late.
@anthonyd1682
@anthonyd1682 3 жыл бұрын
They should change the squirrel so that it makes the 2 food items in the shop free when you buy it
@inumitovd7900
@inumitovd7900 3 жыл бұрын
It would be a big boost, but I think it'd end up being too similar to cow
@BigFella745
@BigFella745 3 жыл бұрын
I heard there was this insane streamer that listens to this every night when he sleeps on his iPad
@Erkki000
@Erkki000 3 жыл бұрын
My perspective as an only P2W player (for now): Swan and Dog to A tier, they are easily the best tier 2 minions and I often have them to the end of the game. Swan is so underrated, having the extra gold is massive for scaling anything. Sometimes its worth to just hard roll for them on turns 3-4 and not pick up much else. I'd put Eagle to low to mid B tier, its amazing to get as a triple when you hit level 4, it has great stats, great deathrattle and most importantly, its an amazing pill target. It's not good as a permanent unit, but its probably the best unit to get as a triple on lvl 4 apart from Cow. I'd swap Ladybug and Pig's placements. 1-3 is underwhelming and early game food commitment on the Ladybug is bait like 95% of the time. Pig IMO could be at tier B even, Beaver is bit better, but Pig is still very solid to get on turn 1-2 as a temporary unit when you aren't getting pairs for Ant/Fish/Beetle etc. and then selling the Pig most often on turn 3. Pig also has some other decent uses (scaling a lvl2-3 Dog, scaling Buffalo and Dragon builds. For me I'd lower both Puppy and Bison to mid-top B. Puppy is really good if you get it on turn 3 with tripling, its good when you get it on turn 4 tripling and if you pick it up on turn 5 early you can still make it work sometimes. But the 2 gold cost is pretty huge, you really need to commit hard to get it to lvl 2 fast. For me I just feel like I usually have a regular Dog up by the time I see Puppy and tier 3 already has so many other good minions (Turtle, Chick, Caterpillar are very good, Owl and double Bunny are solid sometimes too) that I find it hard to pick, especially if I have a decent Dog already at level 2 or one copy off. Bison is obviously good if you have a lvl3 already when you triple into it, but I almost never have lvl 3s at that point unless I've seen an insane amount of Swans/Dogs, because I almost never commit to levelling Tier 1 units to lvl3, I almost always end up selling them at lvl1-2 and I find that most of the time levelling up Tier 1 beyond lvl 2 is bait. It's still solid pick-up when you hit lvl 4, but you REALLY need to get it to tier 2 fast for it to scale. I'd raise Buffalo to top B tier, its the best tier4 unit to get as a triple on turn 5-6 and I find it much easier to scale comapred to Bison. Worm is way too high for me, its good sometimes, but its really slow to scale and requires lots of resources. I'd put Worm to somewhere in C tier. Scorpion is good in the end, but not S tier IMO. It's a solid flex for when your at 9wins or 1hp and afraid of dying. I'd put it to mid-bottom A tier. I find both Octopus and Mammoth meh, but at least Mammoth is solid pill target, so I'd put Mammoth above Octopus, who I find to be way too slow most of the time and the stat increase from levelling is quite underwhelming. Peacock I'd put somewhere in D, its not the worst thing ever, but IMO it really sucks, not worth it to commit resources into at all. I'd move Seal into lower C tier (sometimes viable), Rhino to top-mid C (Good effect, but really hard to scale, you get it so late), Dragon and Chick a little closer to top A tier and Poodle lower in B tier (feels really clunky often and usually never end up keeping it for long as its replaced by Dragon/Dino or just sold to make space). Also I agree with Goat in D tier because its so hard to use most of the time (I'd still raise it closer to mid-top), but it can be VERY RARELY good, one of my absolute favorite builds I've had is Goat+Swan+Dragon+Buffalo. Starting turns with 12-13 gold and after that I had lvl 2-3 Goat and lvl 1-2 Dragon. It was so much fun when Tier 1 units cost only 1 gold or even 0 gold with Pig :D In general I just think I have a very different playing style compared to NL. Like I almost never go for early game foods like Honey, Garlic etc. I'll stay on P2W deck for now, but I'll probably soon swap to F2P deck, so maybe things will change then. Love this game, hope it stays alive and gets some solid updates to keep it pogging.
@tobyvision
@tobyvision 3 жыл бұрын
Right now in the ten heart era, F2P seems to favor racing to wins instead of building deep synergy. I think NL is correct on that part.
@SpoonsDebonair
@SpoonsDebonair 3 жыл бұрын
The big thing with the crocodile is it doesn't win you runs but it ruin dreams when it counters your comp. So it's like a d tier to run but potential s tier when run against you. It really does shine in arena though.
@KoopaKrump
@KoopaKrump 3 жыл бұрын
Crocodile is GOAT to slot in at the end of your turn. Or you can be a fiend and be the guy running leveled gators and dolphins with tiger support.
@sampigman479
@sampigman479 3 жыл бұрын
Here's my thoughts on croc. Most of the time it ends up killing two backline units bc of its high attack. Good until you get something better like a turkey or something
@inumitovd7900
@inumitovd7900 3 жыл бұрын
Croc taking out mostly round end buffers isnt that valuable though
@celnxtlvl816
@celnxtlvl816 3 жыл бұрын
I came for the dynamite banter and found a well constructed tier list. Sign me up, every time! Props to Kate
@Viscerous
@Viscerous 3 жыл бұрын
Last time I was this early, egg was still playing XCOM
@JoshyL146
@JoshyL146 3 жыл бұрын
Something to note about the dragon is that it allows you to spend coin on stat ups rather than constant rerolls for duplicate animals. By the time you're using the dragon you are usually pot committed on the team comp
@inumitovd7900
@inumitovd7900 3 жыл бұрын
I dont know how to feel about seeing dragon next to snail lmao. Snail is definitely a must take after a loss, but considering the odds of getting one at the right time it feels like a waste of shop space most of the time. Still I'd place in B tier, so it's not like I dont respect it
@evanmartin9023
@evanmartin9023 3 жыл бұрын
Dodo is still legit with rooster but that’s about the extent from my experience
@theelectricant98
@theelectricant98 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@jakebaldwin8114
@jakebaldwin8114 3 жыл бұрын
Fish is SAP's Chillwind Yeti
@IamCoalfoot
@IamCoalfoot 2 жыл бұрын
Dude, he's savage on the Eagle, but I just got my second win with a lvl 3 Eagle, which summoned a lvl 3 Octopus _every time._ A 12/14 Eagle summons a 20/24 Octopus that slaps the whole enemy team on summon, I almost didn't need the rest of the team lol.
@thedandguy189
@thedandguy189 3 жыл бұрын
Skunk absolutely destroys the F2P meta I promise you.
@fclp67
@fclp67 3 жыл бұрын
After this tier list came out I couldn't get more than 4 wins LUL Theres always a 30/30 by turn 7 and my two 20/20 units just get fucked shit is crazy competitive
@jaBizzle911
@jaBizzle911 2 жыл бұрын
bee at the back makes sense. a 1/1 bee isn't going to do anything against big animals. it's better for something to take the hit and hopefully kill something to at least give you a chance in those spots than to go for 1 measly damage
@Nathan-en9dn
@Nathan-en9dn 3 жыл бұрын
I made a 30/30 scorpion once. was able to kill 4 units on 10th win
@AaronNotFound
@AaronNotFound 3 жыл бұрын
Choosing to watch NL's 2 1/2 hour SAP tier list while studying for a language science midterm is the best way I can imagine spending my Sunday night
@tylerlarkworthy
@tylerlarkworthy 3 жыл бұрын
jerma was so bored by this he FELL ASLEEP. You gonna take that NL?
@crimeocivcraft5566
@crimeocivcraft5566 3 жыл бұрын
Minus points for not making a whole separate "Unknowable" tier for the lobster alone
@NightangelLetsPlay
@NightangelLetsPlay 3 жыл бұрын
Fish and beetle are essentially the same, yet they are in different tiers…
@xavreythemeloettaobsessedm5268
@xavreythemeloettaobsessedm5268 3 жыл бұрын
He thought that beetle had lower stats then it actually does do that's on him lol. I'd say it is still a bit below fish tho
@kade6427
@kade6427 3 жыл бұрын
Fish definitely is better with its level up bonus early game, but beetle can be useful.
@ninjacell2999
@ninjacell2999 3 жыл бұрын
@@kade6427 yeah but NL doesn't really rate its effect, just the stats
@kade6427
@kade6427 3 жыл бұрын
@@ninjacell2999 I understand that, but thank you though.
@moddedsoul677
@moddedsoul677 3 жыл бұрын
I don't know how but I ended up getting a sloth while listening to this and playing the game. Even got the sloth up to level 2 but game ended at 5 wins.
@journeysa
@journeysa 3 жыл бұрын
Another absolutely BANGER tier list coming from NL. I don’t even play SAP, but I watched every minute of this.
@CReeves47
@CReeves47 3 жыл бұрын
I think Dolphin is still low key underrated. Can’t it knock out a Scorpion, maybe a Snake, or a Fly/Turkey in the early rounds before they spawn or boost anything?
@flaurne
@flaurne 3 жыл бұрын
Rather go Croc and have the better chance to rip up fly turkey builds. I've gotten away with a few ten wins that shouldn't have been by running a anti-meta leveled up croc tiger build with like decent stat fodder up front
@doomcaptain9478
@doomcaptain9478 3 жыл бұрын
It can also kill a crab before it steals HP in the mid game
@JT-yl9yt
@JT-yl9yt 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah but if your opponent has canned few times the snipe isn't doing anything.
@homesinc
@homesinc 3 жыл бұрын
@@JT-yl9yt The dolphin is definitely a mid game slot filler. Probably should be low B tier, but is very efficient when things don’t all have melon/garlic yet.
@darrenlam4189
@darrenlam4189 3 жыл бұрын
I... Don't know what I'm doing here. I've never even heard about this game. I'm at the gym listening to this guy talk about bison with garlic armor with crabs behind them and I can't stop... What does this all mean?
@supbros21
@supbros21 3 жыл бұрын
The gorilla in C tier is criminal. As far as I can tell, it's the best possible 50/50 unit due to coconut armor level 1-3. I can't think of anything stronger at that point in the game.
@greasysteve3411
@greasysteve3411 3 жыл бұрын
What if the enemy team has a 50/50 up front? Then gorilla has no upside
@ninjacell2999
@ninjacell2999 3 жыл бұрын
@@greasysteve3411 yeah but other unit does either, so it still has an upside
@groundfloorgamingcollectiv4816
@groundfloorgamingcollectiv4816 2 жыл бұрын
Okay, instantly subbed. I just got into Super Auto Pets (cuz it's super fun) and I love how NL is willing to roast his stream with brain smarts. I don't agree with everything he's done, but he has legit reasoning and anecdotal data as to why each pet is where it is. You god****ed Legend @Northernlion. Fan for life.
@andrewp6738
@andrewp6738 3 жыл бұрын
Your conversation about the Camel/Kangaroo/Peacock/etc. archetype has me thinking - you could argue there's a rock-paper-scissors type meta rn There's the hurt trigger build you mentioned, which is beat pretty handily by high stats (dodo, caterpillar, anything heavily scaled/upgraded, or builds that juice like one huge hippo up front). The high stat build is beat by a cracked white weenie spawn build utilizing turkey, fly, rooster etc. And the hurt trigger build can beat weenies because they generally scale better. Very interesting
@xavreythemeloettaobsessedm5268
@xavreythemeloettaobsessedm5268 3 жыл бұрын
I hate to burst your bubble but a high stats build also beats a spawn spam build in my experience. Garlic armor just negates most of the damage the spawns do besides bus
@andrewp6738
@andrewp6738 3 жыл бұрын
It’s not a 100-0 matchup, like yeah garlic is the best defense against a weenie. But I think a weenie that really rolls up with turkeys and tigers or even sheep can smash a fat guy then continue
@m-d-b
@m-d-b 3 жыл бұрын
I started playing SAP because of NL and thanks to the wise master's teachings got my first ten piece today after 3 hours in the game. Loving it so far, where other autobattlers didn't really appeal to me. This feels more like solitaire or something.
@G33KST4R
@G33KST4R 3 жыл бұрын
chat bullied him into giving parrot a lower rating than it deserves. With tiger being fixed so it no longer works out of battle, parrot is now the best unit in the game when it's paired with rabbits, cats, monkey or dragon (all of which are A or B tier units)
@inumitovd7900
@inumitovd7900 3 жыл бұрын
Parrot works with dragon?!
@RalorPenwat
@RalorPenwat 3 жыл бұрын
So I'm going to address the cricket scenario because it actually matters a significant amount early game and you can directly translate it to bee plays or other summons. Consider your cricket gets put against a unit that it cannot kill while not in the back. Whatever other unit is in the back can kill it, however. But because you used up the cricket on it first you're losing the entire value of the cricket. If the other unit kills the enemy unit, the cricket may be able to take a win or draw from the units behind that enemy. Also I feel like you're neglecting the summon growth factor. If you level the cricket up, in addition to whatever stat gains it has already gotten and the one it gets from the new merge or other xp gain, you get a free +1/+1 to its stats. I genuinely think the cricket is solid early game. Whale+Deer is honestly pretty good because you can potentially get 2 level 3 bus procs. Not to mention how crazy it can pop off with a Tiger. That gives 4 bus procs. Turkey/Tiger/Whale/Deer is crazy good and leaves you with a flex position. A second tiger is probably my favorite use. Eagle as an early Tier 5 unit is pog. Getting a tier 6 in tier 4 Era or even early tier 5 era is crazy good with how many T6 units have good stats AND good effects. I will never understand people who sleep on Horse when it's literally baby Turkey. NL still has such an ego about this game and it is actually insane considering what we've seen from him in game. "Oh but I'm so much better playing off stream" Source: Dude just trust me
@landonschulze7890
@landonschulze7890 3 жыл бұрын
Ladybug is a sleeper hit. You are so right about the armor, and the best thing about ladybug is it gets its buff every time you buy food and you can buy food for any animal. Paired with caterpillar its brilliant, and you can get it and level it before caterpillar drops. Worst case its just a stated lvl 1 animal that has a relevant ability in the late game.
@GTRichardson7
@GTRichardson7 3 жыл бұрын
my 2¢ on Dodo; the one nice thing with dodo is that you can buff dodo and if you pivot away from the animal the dodo is buffing you still retain the Dodo's buff for the new animal. it does take more work than its probably worth, but that said if the right build comes up its effective. I'd say its low B instead of high C, but thats probably just splitting hairs.
@viggoviebke2635
@viggoviebke2635 3 жыл бұрын
The fact that the animals are reviewed alphabetically except for the squirrel is making me unreasonably angry
@ryanvanaman9585
@ryanvanaman9585 3 жыл бұрын
Cause it’s a chipmunk
@viggoviebke2635
@viggoviebke2635 3 жыл бұрын
@@ryanvanaman9585 yeah i thought so too so i booted the game and god damn not only is it called squirrel, the animals are listed alphabetically in the achievements screen so eggy has no excuse
@Kartoffelnascher
@Kartoffelnascher 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this Tierlist, Master NL. I'm super new to SAP, like 5 days in, and after my own first attempts I got to 6-7 wins mostly. Me too relied too much on horses and crickets with honey. I just had my first run after watching your tier list and well, I won all 10 for the first time with 2 loses. Level 2 Monkey -> Cat -> Tiger - > Level 3 Garlic Kangaroo -> turtle-meloned Level 3 50/50 Fish
@OneUniti
@OneUniti 3 жыл бұрын
Now I know I learned all I know from this guy, but I got my first 10 win today by injecting triple duck in my vein, hitting Dodo, Dog, and some other thing on turn 3, and just steam rolling.
@lukxi99
@lukxi99 3 жыл бұрын
Wow great tier list see you with another one in like 3 weeks edit: my man really disrespects the duck, winning against ducks isnt an argument to why they're garbage because if you see a duck they're using ducks wrong by default.
@ImTehRiZe
@ImTehRiZe 3 жыл бұрын
but they are trash
@heck3933
@heck3933 3 жыл бұрын
the argument is that winning early is more important than risking it on a duck build
@KoopaKrump
@KoopaKrump 3 жыл бұрын
Its pretty easy to draw first round with 1, even 2 ducks with an ant though. You can take a draw round 1, go hard duck round 2 and then you're sitting on a jacked round 3 to midgame.
@KennArc
@KennArc 3 жыл бұрын
He honestly makes a great point. He is playing for consistency and there is enough decent units to ignore duck every time. Duck near guarantees that you transition with 2 loses. And even still, round 3 has a lot of people selling their duck teams for huge teams and you still end up losing anyway. As a fellow duck enjoyer, duck has a lot of problems. Sometimes you run into nothing but your own kind and they had 1 more duck than you and you get 0 wins. A big and VERY common problem with duck; Ox. Ox has SO much power early on it can actually wipe out 2 units that were duck buffed. Kangaroos as well, but not to the same extent. Not to mention Duck Strat like every other teams' mentality relies on scaling; you will lose the power lead eventually and you have too many units you cling to. Sometimes after your cash in you end up buying apples or rerolling for a unit you can actually take to the end game. Dog often requires too much space for duck teams. You can't stack econ with swan as effectively for the same reason. Snail loses A LOT of it's value and offers other teams a better "duck buff" to catch up to you. But sure none of that really guarantees you lose. Duck teams do set you up for a strong team that can sometimes carry you to transitioning to a 10 win team. But there is still variance and the argument is that the HP you keep early tends to be more effective than sacrificing it for early scaling. Beaver better than Duck though? You're right, the man has TOO much disrespect for duck. Shrimp is obviously the worst tier 1 unit in the game, but right in front of that is Beaver for sure.
@lukxi99
@lukxi99 3 жыл бұрын
@@heck3933 I understand, but buying/selling ducks or holding 2 ducks from round 2 to 3 to get +6/+6 across 3 units which you can roll once to get tier 2 units. Even if you get 1 loss through it, the buffs gained can get you rolling into midgame. Im not asking for duck to A, but a lil more respect like low B high C would be respectable.
@shcottam
@shcottam 3 жыл бұрын
Duck strat is sacrificing health to pog through the Midgame. Get 5 ducks and sell on turn 3 for 3 pogged out of the gord units can carry hard
@OsthatoAlfakyn
@OsthatoAlfakyn 3 жыл бұрын
I'm going to defend the leopard and point out that you *don't* waste your buffs on it. Leopard is what you roll if you picked up a dodo early (since dodo is tier 2) and then it just owns 1-3 units before the game even begins. Sure, its rank got tanked with the dodo nerf, but it's not *that* bad as long as you always pair it
@MooseXL22
@MooseXL22 2 жыл бұрын
The Scorpion justification about your hippo...killed me
@presidentbutterpudding4025
@presidentbutterpudding4025 3 жыл бұрын
nl not understanding the cricket can make amazing trades that other units cannot drives me insane. the reason cricket in back is good is because you can make use of the other units that buff attack etc. food strats or whatever and then when you come up with a unit that is objectively stronger than cricket then as long as you can just wear it down you can trade and win with cricket
@GummyOSawrUs
@GummyOSawrUs 3 жыл бұрын
People really under estimate the power of Chicken, the fact its can be a Can with a buy me sell me meta and then you just hold a Rooster or something to have a build with 4 units that are 20/20+
@Vok250
@Vok250 3 жыл бұрын
He's completely right. Of the games I have one, it's usually with a massive tier 1 unit and a garlic crab.
@TacetTheTerror
@TacetTheTerror 3 жыл бұрын
Chicken in D? Someone hasn't tried the KFC Canned Dragon him me build yet. Also, confused how Worm is A when AoE worm (Seal) is put in D.
@joquerol
@joquerol 3 жыл бұрын
Did you not listen to NL? Worm is tier 4 so it shows up way sooner than Seal... And AoE worm is also worse than regular flavor worm because it's better to know where the buff is going so you can build something intentionally, and having one BIG unit is better than having a few decent ones.
@BikoFactory
@BikoFactory 3 жыл бұрын
The placement of Giraffe confuses me when he kept hammering that early scaling is so good (which I agree with). Giraffe is the earliest scaling unit you can get in free-to-play. There's also the issue of wide vs deep scaling, and yeah deep is better, but still, wide scaling is better than no scaling at all...
@ryanmccoy8980
@ryanmccoy8980 3 жыл бұрын
Its just not enough scaling to matter. 1 apple every turn is not getting you not enough stats. If you get an early tier two its about as good as monke but not really because the stats aren't focused..
@novelco1544
@novelco1544 3 жыл бұрын
Why is my boy sloth not in a tier list? He believes in you, brings you a good luck. A solid S tier in my book, honestly.
@stevenha283
@stevenha283 2 жыл бұрын
This man has to do one for the latest update
@blahthebiste7924
@blahthebiste7924 3 жыл бұрын
NL's roasts in this are god tier
@coledorillo6685
@coledorillo6685 3 жыл бұрын
Finally, I now know which units I can laugh at and which to pog at. P.S. NL stop hating the duck just because you don't know how to 5 duck marty sell starts. Juice up any tier 2 or 3 unit at round 3 or 4 with duck sells.
@rickastley7522
@rickastley7522 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like his attack on the duck is still sort of relevant. He’s valuing the first 2 round heavier than rounds 3-6 (which is where you start picking up scaling units). I totally agree that the 5 duck Marty is is the juice, but you still only end up with 3 (or 4 if you squeeze) big units which may be tier 1s that you’ll need to sell to get into a real build.
@TripleMasterA
@TripleMasterA 3 жыл бұрын
Okay but you just lost 2 lives to get a very strong early-mid start with units that you're gonna sell for better late game scaling units anyway. And rip the occassional snail dream luck.
@tomsweeney7922
@tomsweeney7922 3 жыл бұрын
@@TripleMasterA If you can a good tier 3 you can scale it works, I got to ten wins once by selling a LV2 duck into a Blowfish on round three, and just scaling it (and a flamingo i got to LV3, buffed by the duck) Edit: I would says duck are all or nothing though, they don't work if you dont get at least three
@coledorillo6685
@coledorillo6685 3 жыл бұрын
@@TripleMasterA Have you considered just not losing, my duck-buffed units are like superstars
@mail1086_
@mail1086_ 3 жыл бұрын
I was skeptical of Bison being so high, but I already have two 10 wins using it in a build since watching this. Think Aligator deserves just a bit more (Low C vs D based on how he placed similar units), but NLs style for this game definitely works. Two or Three big units is all you need for most of the game. Don't need to scale to infinity if you win games early.
@Bexarbear9
@Bexarbear9 3 жыл бұрын
The Sauropod and Leopard used to be the most broken animals in the game before they nerfed Sauropod. You could get 5 Sauropod and gain an infinite amount of money to eventually get 5 50/50 level 3 Leopards that instantly obliterated any build your opponent brought out before they could even attack 😆 Nerf was probably for the best but sad to see these former heroes in the bottom of the D tier now.
@neipo
@neipo 3 жыл бұрын
crickets problem early game is that a fish trades even with a fish, but a cricket does not because of the way its health is distributed with the 1/1. Same logic applies to an ant, cricket leaves ant fight @ 1/1 fish leaves @ 2/1. Early game that makes a difference. Same logic applies to 2/2 opponents, cricket trades, fish wins. Just not that great
@YopparaiNyanko
@YopparaiNyanko 3 жыл бұрын
Where is the Sloth though? It's the best tier 1 unit!
@gothenmosph5151
@gothenmosph5151 3 жыл бұрын
The cricket is s tier the first two rounds if you have it in back with an ant in front. It saves you from so many early game draws which is extremely important because the more you draw the more you have to rely on having multiple 50/50+ units to be able to win later on, which can be impossible if you don't get the right units.
@NeoBoneGirl
@NeoBoneGirl 3 жыл бұрын
He's out of this gourd for his list, his reasoning is psychotic lol
@PhantomThiefXI
@PhantomThiefXI 3 жыл бұрын
this man is absolutely insane
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