Super League Coming?! | Greg Sankey Insults Big 12 & ACC

[@Mr.Ed_Wayner]

You are right but all this is about survival of the fittest. I don’t think the Super League will only happen if the media companies decide to reduce media payouts. Then as a desperate reaction, the top brands may look at the Super League. In the mean time, maybe have multiple playoff system may be the way to go. P2, P3/4 & G5 have their own playoffs.

[@CouzsCornerSports]

I’d be ok with this.

[@larryandrick241]

I agree with you this would save CF as we would like

[@TDBEARO74]

As a Mizzou fan I'm all for bringing back the regional rivals the hell with this BS we got now with SEC & BIG 10. It's been proven you don't need to be in a big conference to be a good or even a great team you just need $ As long as you get the right boosters who cares where your at.

[@OutlawCollegeFootball]

I'm an Alabama but I agree

[@tarheel7406]

The revenue/exposure gap has been deemed to have grown too large. USC/UCLA would not have moved otherwise.

[@o0Raine0o]

i agree with everything regional but ive seen this proposed shit before. why 72 teams? why not all 134? they are after the tv money anyway so they cut out half the schools. why not share th entire pot of money amongst everybody and go back to the old conferences? why put six texs school into one bracked? why not revive the southwest? this is half assed and lazy and only 72 teams will profit from this because there is no such thing as equal playing field once this gets through. im in europe, i see this model every weekend. you know how odd european sports is? this idea of the super conference wasnt made to put schools on an equal field. they are selling you something thats not going to work as they say it will

[@TexasFootballChannel]

@@TDBEARO74 I am a fan of inclusive College Football. Thank you for your comment.

[@MRB16th]

I'm impressed with what is proposed thus far, even though it likely won't be happening until the 2030s with TV contracts, logistics and various other considerations taken into account - this is far too formidable to reject out of hand. However, I would make a few changes to the setup to increase the appeal and bring more colleges on board (with some expansion): * Get the FCS teams to join, thus taking the Super League to 272 teams in five conferences - I'll retain 72 teams in the Power 12, and have four Groups of 10 (50 in each). * With promotion and relegation, have the bottom five teams in Group of 10 I, II and III be relegated, with the best five teams in Group of 10 II, III and IV replacing them, and the best teams in Group of 10 I "playing up", with no teams being relegated from the Power 12 for five years: after that, it's full promotion and relegation. * The revenue would now have 81.25% going to the 72 teams in the top tier and 18.75% going to the remaining teams, which is still a fair deal. * Have the season be 14 games over 16 weeks, so all schools have an equal number of home and road games.

[@CouzsCornerSports]

Good ideas.

[@MRB16th]

@@CouzsCornerSports Thank you very much - I believe that broadcasters and others would be very pleased with this, as there would be 1904 games plus 83 playoff games to sell each year. A few points to make with this 272 team league: * After looking up the FBS and FCS teams, and teams joining the FBS and FCS in the near future, this setup would require an additional seven schools to be bought up, or to introduce or return to football (the money on offer here would be convincing: also, a new or returning program entering the league would be a great story). * With the Power 12, the 68 Power Four teams would be joined by four Group of Five teams. * While 14 FBS teams would be in Group of 10 II, these would be the bottom teams who likely would have finished with two wins or less the year before. * I had financial payments being made to the five Power 12 teams who are relegated in the sixth year and beyond, so their budget isn't trashed as a result of one very poor season. * In line with current FBS v FCS contests, I would have some Group of 10 I teams play Power 12 teams in up to one game a year, with similar arrangements for Group of 10 II, III and IV teams. * As per the proposal, the selection committee for playoffs is gone, with playoff spots being based on record. With the additional seven teams, the question remains as to who they would be.

[@StanleyMetzJr]

I'd say the SEC & B10 will fight any attempt at forming the super league for it'll level the playing field back out & obviously they want it the way they currently have it heading.

[@gsmyrna7469]

One thing the big 10 the big connection of all the schools is the academic connections and sharing of their libraries and teachers,

[@tarheel7406]

Can and is currently being done outside of any athletic association.

[@PittFan84]

Bullshit

[@TheLAGopher]

@@tarheel7406 The B1G gets to have its cake and eat it too.

[@tarheel7406]

@@TheLAGopher Unsure what this means. No other conference has deemed it worth replicating the BTAA to the same degree. It's been claimed that STANFORD rejected the B!G due to the requirement to join the BTAA. B1G fans far overvalue that entity.

[@CouzsCornerSports]

@@gsmyrna7469 why would a football ONLY super conference end that? They can keep doing all their academic partnerships and even play other sports in the B1G.

[@Desert-Father]

64 Teams as the higher tier, 72 as the lower tier. Its cleaner playoff schedule for 4×16 conferences with 8×8 team divisions with 8 wild cards and 8 divisional winners. An 8 team division would also allow for more rivalry games by including Ohio State in the same division as Michigan for example. Also including Army and Air Force in the same tier as Navy will be necessary. Including them in the higher tier would go a long way to getting Congress to sign off on antitrust legislation like the NFL has. I dont see this league getting built without that.

[@tarheel7406]

64 is too dilutive, which is one of the reasons for this contraction via consolidation realignment. I maintain ~48 is needed for a separate Tier 1 and playoff.

[@Desert-Father]

@tarheel7406 I don't see any way you get that low from the P4 conferences. And if the SEC and B1G lock everyone out and pick the best from the rest, they'll go to 32 teams not 48. Both 48 and 32 are too restrictive and would leave too much of the market out of the league including UNC.

[@BJtheMountaineerguy]

This would be awesome.. Greed is ruining CFB

[@CouzsCornerSports]

Yep

[@volbound1700]

True and it would be setup for the wrong reason but if they go the route of one super league, it would solve a lot of issues and some of the teams currently left behind (including possible Oregon State and Washington State) could be brought back into the fold. They say 72 teams, that is basically 6 divisions of 12 teams. ACC, Big East, Big12, B1G, SEC, and Pac12 coming back with SEC back to its 12-team format from 1992-2010. That basically allows all the teams to be back from all the G4 leagues plus even open spots for some of the newer members like UCF. I think a couple of the Texas teams might get dropped but we are oversaturated with those Texas teams. Only Texas, Aggies, and Texas Tech have that large of a following.

[@rodneydurrett8604]

Sec and B1G commissioners both want an NFL model, but they forgot that the NFL competition committee dumbed down the dynasty's of the 70s, 80s, and 90s to make all teams on the same level playing field.

[@jansonroberts2616]

Totally false. Greg Sankey has said multiple times that he doesn’t want an NFL model or any variation of an NFL model.

[@rodneydurrett8604]

@@jansonroberts2616 , he will destroy the B1G and sec. The nation will not support power 2 leagues that are top heavy. The other 120 team and fanbases will destroy these 2 conferences.

[@jansonroberts2616]

@@rodneydurrett8604 Sankey has zero to do with the B1G conference. The SEC media payouts will reach 100 million dollars per member by 2029-2030. The SEC has the highest viewership numbers and continues to grow. Those are the facts. He has and is leading the SEC to bigger and better results as the best conference.

[@tarheel7406]

@@rodneydurrett8604 a) Separate Tier 1 and Tier 2 will have a parity effect on both. Each would be less top heavy. b) The SEC and B1G could separate from the rest as they now are, but they would not maintain national interest as you suggest or have as much legitimacy. The Tier 1 needs to be wider and deeper for that.

[@terryfox9344]

Couz, in general, I believe that this is a great idea. I am now convinced that FBS college football needs to be set apart from the conference system and be largely autonomous from the rest of the NCAA system (a loose affiliation, but largely separate). I get Sankey's opposition. Sankey wants to be the King of college football. This denies him that opportunity (right). I have never been a Sankey fan. Sometimes his positions are principled. however, just as often they are very self-interested (as opposed to the best interests of the sport). This is where Sankey speaks from his own interests.

[@CouzsCornerSports]

@@terryfox9344 good comment.

[@tarheel7406]

Except that this realignment isn't just about football. The B1G has increasingly pressing demo concerns that are risks to their core institutions as a whole. The SEC wants to consolidate all of the flagships in the Southeast, be the best in all sports that it sponsors, and improve its academic reputation.

[@jansonroberts2616]

@@tarheel7406 I read that there were 22 national championships across D-1 sports last year in the NCAA and that the SEC won 11 of those championships. We didn’t win the football championship or basketball championship last year so we have more work to do. It just means more.

[@tarheel7406]

@@jansonroberts2616 When compiling the data below, I worked from the most recent season backwards in time. I noticed that the B1G was more successful the further back I went. ACC and SEC (mostly) have been recently crowding out the B1G's middle competitors across all sports. 2015/16 - 2023/24 Final D-Cup Standings (2020 N/A): ACC: 23 Top 10, 48 Top 20 (includes ND, STANFORD & CAL) B12: 00 Top 10, 06 Top 20 (includes AZST, excludes TEXAS & TXAM) B1G: 26 Top 10, 45 Top 20 (includes USC & UCLA) PAC: 00 Top 10, 00 Top 20 (excludes USC, UCLA, STANFORD, CAL & AZST) SEC: 31 Top 10, 60 Top 20 (includes TEXAS, OK & TXAM) A prominent PSU/B1G commentor around these parts has stated several times that the B1G doesn't care about winning, just money. I suspect that's sour grapes. The B1G decided some time ago to focus on athletic revenue rather than success, and it shows. It now needs to leverage that in an attempt to reverse the competitive gap with the SEC before it falls behind in both. These numbers also clearly show the huge athletic gap between the 3 Tier 1s and the Tier 2 BIG12.

[@kogspinz4]

The SEC nor the B10 will not accept a smaller payout.

[@CouzsCornerSports]

How do we know it will be a smaller payout? Thats an assumption.

[@garfieldGG]

@@CouzsCornerSports do you know how monopolies work? Where there’s one brand option and that one makes all the money? Think of it like that. Only two conferences make money, and then they don’t have to split with the others. That’s it. That’s the play. And I hate it with every fiber of my being. But that’s the reality here.

[@kogspinz4]

@@CouzsCornerSports More mouths to feed that do not produce the same return.

[@tarheel7406]

~20:50 "Dumb down" is an unfortunate phrase, but I get it. The legacy major conferences are built on a brand and synergies across all sports and the broader association. Being much newer, the BIG12 never had this, less so after depletion/backfill. WVU has a history of bouncing around, so its fans wouldn't readily see this as well. This is why "fit" is often used.

[@DeRochette]

Originally the super league was gonna be at least 70 teams. When did that change?

[@CouzsCornerSports]

It still is, so to be honest I’m confused by the question.

[@volbound1700]

I took a stab at 6x 12 team leagues. ACC: Clemson, FSU, Miami, UNC, NC State, Duke, Wake, GT, UVA, UCF, Maryland, Navy (or USF); Big East (I like this one): Penn State, Syracuse, Pittsburgh, Boston College, Notre Dame, Army, West Virginia, Virginia Tech, Temple, Rutgers, Connecticut, Louisville; B1G: Michigan, Michigan State, Ohio State, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Purdue, Indiana, Illinois, Northwestern, Iowa, and Iowa State (to make room in Big12 for TCU). Big12: Nebraska, Colorado, Missouri, Kansas, Kansas State, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, TCU, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State; SEC: (Basically the SEC of the late 1990s); Pac12: Basically Pac12 with BYU instead of Colorado. Definitely could be some shakeup but this is what it would kind of look like. It shows what you can put together with 72 teams. Houston and SMU are the only current P4 teams that don't make. Their could be arrangements to add them.

[@CouzsCornerSports]

I like it

[@volbound1700]

@@CouzsCornerSports It might be where we are heading or some thing like it. One league can negotiate with power against the TV networks, control scheduling better, have a legitimate post season, etc. Just not sure if it will be the B1G, SEC, or both that start it. It also brings back the "left behind" schools and regionality but allows more games between the power schools across the nation. I assume they would play 8 games with their conference/division and 2-4 games against the other conferences/divisions.

[@tarheel7406]

Too dilutive, which is one of the reasons for this contraction via consolidation realignment. I maintain ~48 is needed for a separate Tier 1 and playoff.

[@volbound1700]

@@tarheel7406 48 would definitely work. My point is everyone is talking about 72 and the fans of the "left behinds" are whining. 72 would literally have a spot for everyone.

[@tarheel7406]

@@volbound1700 My ~48 is based on creating a separate Tier 1 on the existing SEC and B1G. If I created more Tier 1 conferences, the total would be different. This is why I have repeatedly written that bubble schools would be better off if the ACC survived for a peer P3, as the total would increase.

[@keithburkepile6020]

Couz, since you believe WVU is a 6-win a year team and will not be ranked in the top 25, then we do not belong in any future super conference. In order for us to belong, we have to compete for a conference title (once in a while) and be ranked in the top 25 once in a while. If not, we do not belong. If we went to sell winning 6 games per year then we should join the group of 5 or 8 or whatever it is. Either we are second tier P4 program that can win a conference title now and again or we should be relegated to mediocrity. Recommend consistency in message. Realize this came before your WVU is a 6-win team, but it is all connected.

[@CouzsCornerSports]

With the 6-win statement I misspoke. We need to average at least seven per year and yes, compete for a conference title every few years. That point of that video was to make people understand that firing Neal may not be the answer and some fans may have had their expectations too high the last couple of years. The conference should be a little easier now, so hopefully NB can start winning more games.

[@horrorrealm3175]

They need money bad right now they said because they do not have enough people to give out the stuff the rather at this point get money to tell people there already to go nearby stores and get the stuff they need.

[@CouzsCornerSports]

But aren’t the stores also gone? That’s what I was told.

[@KevinSuggs-cy8xe]

Couz I like your show. Greg Sankey is the best Commissioner in College Football. He will never agree to splitting up the SEC. You want a Super College Football League here is my idea. All Power 4 Conferences. Each Conference plays a 9 game Conference Schedule and 3 games against the other Power Conferences. Go to a 16 game playoff. All Group of 5 teams form their own league and have their own playoffs. Competitive Football all around. I love SEC Football. Every Saturday I watch at least 3 SEC games and record others to watch during the week. I for one do not want to lose that. At least I know this could not happen until at least 2036 because of TV congrats. I’m 70 so I won’t worry about it until I’m 82. Probably be gone by then anyway.

[@tarheel7406]

a) Have to address the revenue gap to work b) Have to address the dilution from the BIG12 elevating G5s

[@CouzsCornerSports]

I appreciate the comment.

[@CouzsCornerSports]

Those schools would be included, as would SMU, which you and other ACC folks always conveniently fail to mention.

[@tarheel7406]

@@CouzsCornerSports SMU is also an elevated G5. Including those would kill the proposal. Diluting the Tier 1 is one of the forces driving this consolidation. The ACC added SMU as part of a managed decline to the Tier 2. The BIG12 elevated G5s in a vain attempt to regain Tier 1 status. This is what you fail to see.

[@LweissTTU]

If the Big 10 and SEC are having separate meetings, I don’t think there is anyway they would ever agree to something like this. Some believe the setup indicated in the article is too big. I think this includes teams that would otherwise be left out under any other scenario. Let’s face it, anyone not in the big 2 has already been left behind in many ways

[@CouzsCornerSports]

I know. That’s unfortunate but it’s where we are.

[@tarheel7406]

"anyone not in the big 2 has already been left behind in many ways" In some ways, but the ACC/BIGEAST group has yet to be consolidated, so the SEC/B1G can't separate from the rest while maxing value and legitimacy.

[@tarheel7406]

A factor in driving the current consolidation realignment is the dilution of brand and value. The BIG12 (especially) has elevated too many G5 level programs in an attempt to stay relevant, some that won't be acceptable by their much bigger brothers. There's a reason why the academies didn't work in a P5 (e.g. NAVY). The divisions are also too small and often too geo uniform, which limits wider attraction and ends rivalries and wastes synergies. Six ~10 member groups with a new BIGEAST for the Northeast would be better based roughly on the original P5+1. There are also non-football/athletic concerns driving the current environment.

[@michaelolenick4078]

Will never happen!

[@tarheel7406]

@@michaelolenick4078 I didn't say that it would happen. The consolidation is now too far down the line. It had a chance if implemented during the consolidation down to the P5.

[@ShannonMiller-kc7hb]

There is great football every weekend. The same 5 are above every one else. Get to the NFL model, which is coming, where the money is the same. These dudes are just happy to buy a title. Nothing matters except money in the coffers. WE cant compete as is or going forward.

[@CarlaJenkinsTV]

I was telling people from the jump that a Super League was not going to happen. Sankey's comments prove this to be true. Also the 'super league' was to distract ACC and Big 12 audiences whenever something significant is happening at the same time. What's happening now? Hammering out the $22 million players pay settlement and TNT looking for a sport replacement for losing the NBA to Amazon Prime. However, as a Big 10 fan (Ohio State), Sankey does have some nerve to talk about only wanting to be SEC when he cannot answer why he's $10 million less than the Big 10.

[@tarheel7406]

The B1G is waning while the SEC is waxing. I doubt that the SEC is worried about any current revenue difference.

[@TheLAGopher]

@@tarheel7406 The B1G just got bigger by adding blueblood USC and elite football programs Oregon and Washington. The B1G has 3 major network partners and has dominated the TV ratings when it's big brands play over the SEC and especially the Big 12.The ACC doesn't even register.

[@tarheel7406]

@@TheLAGopher a) The west coast is a depreciating market for college football, hence the PAC died as a Tier 1 and a Tier 2. b) The B1G is waning competitively. Coming into this realignment it was 3rd among the P5s in top level success. c) The core B1G footprint has stagnant and aging populations. Those members can't maintain all historical athletic and academic metrics. The B1G has likely reached its highwater mark without a heavy and effective expansion south. The B1G certainly considered both UVA and UNC secured when/if they left the ACC, but they now have likely been lost to the SEC.

[@tarheel7406]

@@TheLAGopher Posting this in a separate comment: 2015/16 - 2023/24 Final D-Cup Standings (2020 N/A): ACC: 23 Top 10, 48 Top 20 (includes ND, STANFORD & CAL) B12: 00 Top 10, 06 Top 20 (includes AZST, excludes TEXAS & TXAM) B1G: 26 Top 10, 45 Top 20 (includes USC & UCLA) PAC: 00 Top 10, 00 Top 20 (excludes USC, UCLA, STANFORD, CAL & AZST) SEC: 31 Top 10, 60 Top 20 (includes TEXAS, OK & TXAM) I compiled these numbers from the most recent season and worked backwards. These are adjusted for realignment, and I noticed that the B1G had more success as I went back in time. In other words, the B1G is waning in overall sports by this measure. The ACC held steady while slightly improving. It was the SEC improving and crowding out more of the B1G's middle competitors.

[@jansonroberts2616]

Sankey commented on it because he was asked about it directly. The SEC doesn’t travel across country for its conference games Couz. Why should the SEC allow itself to be decimated as a conference and lose all its success and history for the sake of those that haven’t invested or cared until now. It shouldn’t and it won’t. That’s why it’s a non starter for the SEC and it’ll probably be a non starter for the B1G as well. Actually, Greg Sankey has already made it clear that the SEC is the super conference and that’s why everyone else on the outside is trying to become like the SEC. Oh Couz, hate on Greg all you want but he’s the commissioner of the SEC. His job is to lead and look out for the SEC conference. It’s not his job to look out for all those other Universities. Why is it on him to take care of everyone else? SMH. Communism mentality at its best alive and well in college athletics.

[@CouzsCornerSports]

First of all, the communist comment is too far and unnecessary. This is college sports not corporate America. It’s not supposed to be corporate America.

[@tarheel7406]

It's not a communist thought if the proposal is supposed to lift all boats. This doesn't lift the SEC boats from their perspective. The SEC has benefited from good management, but it's been mostly demo, cultural and economic changes. The B1G has high lingering value from prior such changes, but it will decline relative to competitors. The SEC could expand within its region benefiting from those same changes, but the B1G has had to look outside. To expand, the ACC had to look mostly north, so it diluted from this perspective. With that said, the SEC has been built on the synergies created via a geo-centric brand. It's not going to give that up, though newer members would be more disposable for a good enough national structure.

[@jansonroberts2616]

@@CouzsCornerSports That’s not even remotely close to what I said. A mentality is the characteristic attitude of mind or way of thinking of a person or group. It’s not specifically tied to anything in regards to corporate America.

[@cjon3006]

As a whole - this would absolutely be benefitable ! * It Is good for ALL students athletes, coaches, and fans (communities) * It is not "beneficial" to SEC/B10 Conf. Commissioner/staffing and the "Top 24 "Brands". What's strange - For some odd reason the "less equitable" brands in SEC/B10 assume "media partners" want to merge the current SEC/B10 and stop consolidation. * MEDIA PARTNERS DO NOT WANT THAT - They want a "Super-league", including ONLY the "Top 24 "Brands" ... Minn, Ill, Pur, NW, Rutgers, Ark, UK, Miss St., Vandy, S. Caro. you are not included. The good news : B12 is not going anywhere; B12 will likely absorb some (if not all of the ACC); Take on new media partners (TNT, Streamers, CW, etc. ); And balance-out this SEC/B10 vacuum.

[@tarheel7406]

a) 24 teams is not a deep/wide enough consolidation to retain legitimacy and national interest. b) Why would ACC members move to the option of last resort BIG12?

[@cjon3006]

@@tarheel7406 a) It's not about comment sense; Its about FOX/ESPN money, BIG/SEC greed, and short term thinking b) LET'S ASSUME (for this discussion) - B1G/SEC are actually telling the true and they don't expand. They are perfectly happy making the rules and taking a majority of money,/exposer. AT THAT POINT - ACC members will be left with 2 choices. 1- Join B12 and have ability to renegotiate media contract in 29' (or sooner) 2- Stay in ACC; create unequal revenue model, and continue to get hosed by ESPN media contract (which extend to 36')

[@tarheel7406]

@@cjon3006 No... a) The Tier 1 had gotten too diluted and large, which had the effect of fewer programs having a chance at a natty. The BIG8+4 had no problem relegating down the SWC remainders and the BIG12 had no problem relegating down 2+ PAC schools. Why wasn't that greed? Why was that common sense? b) The SEC/B1G can't separate at max value at their current membership. Too many brands remain outside. The geo/population isn't wide enough. c) Smaller, regional Tier 2s are worth more in total than combined. If the current ACC remains intact, it's far better off waiting out the GOR for a new, current market deal than dilute value by combining with the far worse new BIG12.

[@michaelolenick4078]

They only care about theirselves they won't care about anyone else. All they care about is the money.

[@StanleyMetzJr]

But this super league would be great & save college FB imo.

[@HasBeen-en3ue]

The Tennessee AD is there because his largest booster - the Cleveland Brown’s owner - told him to be. Don’t get overly excited about his presence of the plan’s possibility of this ever happening. It was DOA in the Spring and it DOA in the Fall. Outside investors would want 20% off the top. Do the math $100mm x 72 teams plus 20% for investors. That works out to $8.6 billion per yr not counting what the FCS schools Not enough media money to fund it and keep the P2 whole.

[@tarheel7406]

"The Tennessee AD is there because his largest booster - the Cleveland Brown’s owner - told him to be." Makes sense to me. I suspect the UNC AD is involved because UNC's preference is to stay in the ACC if the revenue gap can be closed enough. I can't see UNC favoring this many small divisions, especially separating from UVA.

[@CouzsCornerSports]

Why would he be an ambassador if he was against the idea?

[@CarlaJenkinsTV]

I am a Clevelander with Tennessee roots. This is true. Danny White serves at the behest of Haslem.

[@HasBeen-en3ue]

@@CouzsCornerSports simple. because his largest donor suggested he do so. Money talks. Big booster money shouts.

[@OutlawCollegeFootball]

Did you just hark a lougie towards the beginning. Where did you learn that ? Hmmmm ... I think I may know ahahahaha

[@CouzsCornerSports]

I did not. I cleared my throat. Lol

[@OutlawCollegeFootball]

@@CouzsCornerSports Lougies Corner ye shalt be known hence forth

[@LEE_65]

The biggest Brands will not go for this they spent over 100 years building up their brand to be knocked back down. The schools would have to agree to do it and they are not going to agree with this trash. The only fans that want this are the fans of the schools in conferences other then the P2

[@ShannonMiller-kc7hb]

We need to go back to G5 where we can compete. Dont give me the NIL bull, IF Boise does it, we can better. Go back to having 9 games you can win plus a P4 and top G5. Get in the playoff and beat an overconfident team. Its basically what weve done in our best seasons. This aint worked for us folks.

[@CouzsCornerSports]

That’s a fair take, but not many fans would accept it.

[@heartbreak25]

The NFL exploits its players to achieve its success. That 55/45 split is ridiculous. College athletes aren't going to follow that model when they have outsized bargaining power now. As a Milwaukee Bucks fan, I'm not supporting anything Marc Lasry is supporting. Him and his son don't have a great reputation in that city. But this is DOA as the B1G as no incentive to give up the lucrative Big Ten Network. OSU makes more money playing an SEC team every season than playing the 50th best team in a Super League. They can buy out Pettiti's contract. The B1G will just hire another commissioner who exists to serve the university presidents. I understand WVU's predicament but no one felt sorry for the Big East after the ACC imploded it. Or Big 12 breaking up the PAC-12 with the B1G. Sorry.

[@CouzsCornerSports]

WVU has been screwed at every turn, except when the Big 12 took them in. That saved them, at least for a while.

[@tharvey1]

Stop watching SEC and Big 10 games. That's the only way. Sink the viewership.

[@jansonroberts2616]

And yet the viewership numbers continue to climb in the SEC. Even the bowl games that supposedly don’t matter anymore have continued to grow their viewership numbers. For every one person that says they won’t watch the SEC, there are a hundred more that join the ranks of viewership. Communism mentality will never work in college athletics. We all don’t have the same level of commitment nor do we all have the same level of effort. It’s a failed ideology.

[@tarheel7406]

If your team doesn't make the eventual. Tier 1 cut, that fanbase has been deemed disposable. Why did the BIG8 consider most of the SWC disposable? Why did the BIG12 consider ~4 PAC members disposable?

[@tharvey1]

@@tarheel7406 All of the disposable fanbases as a collective are not disposable. If you dispose of their teams then they stop watching the rest of college football too. Then you're left to compete with the NFL and you won't win that battle.

[@tarheel7406]

@@tharvey1 Again, why did the BIG8 consider most of the SWC disposable? Why did the BIG12 consider ~4 PAC members disposable? If a team isn't expected to make the cut, its fans have been deemed disposable, even when considered along with other disposable fanbases.

[@LEE_65]

No this is terrible as a Penn State fan Penn State would be a massive loser here. None of the Penn State fans want to watch Penn State play Cincinnati, Pitt WVU Rutgers or Syracuse. That would be an absolute disgusting and unacceptable schedule

[@tarheel7406]

Frankly, PSU is fungible in this context. It has no reciprocated biggest rival in any major sport or overall sports as far as I can see. A legacy of being indy for so long.

[@heartbreak25]

Agreed. This if DOA.

[@heartbreak25]

​@@tarheel7406Pitt is our rival just not our equal. If you're an 80s era fan, then it's Miami and Notre Dame. Franklin era fans hate Iowa on a personal level. If USC drops their rivalry with ND then both fan bases want to rival each other because of the 2016 Rose Bowl and depending on what happens in 2 weeks.

[@tarheel7406]

@@heartbreak25 I wrote "reciprocated biggest rival". Your response just confirms my comment. For context, relative to UNC... NCSTATE for football, DUKE for basketball, UVA for overall sports. Isn't MICHST the designated in conference rival for PSU? Again, likely a legacy of being indy for so long. There are costs and benefits to most everything. Similarly, I don't think WVU has a reciprocated biggest rival in a revenue or overall sports.

[@CouzsCornerSports]

PSU needs a serious heated rival.

[@Mr.Ed_Wayner]

You are right but all this is about survival of the fittest. I don’t think the Super League will only happen if the media companies decide to reduce media payouts. Then as a desperate reaction, the top brands may look at the Super League. In the mean time, maybe have multiple playoff system may be the way to go. P2, P3/4 & G5 have their own playoffs.