Super Nintendo vs Atari Jaguar! *31* Games Compared!

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@OGHUGO
@OGHUGO 2 ай бұрын
Greg, you forget that the SNES is 16bit and the Jag is 64bit.. DO THE MATH ! !
@KrunchyTheClown78
@KrunchyTheClown78 2 ай бұрын
Maff is too hurd...
@GregsGameRoom
@GregsGameRoom 2 ай бұрын
"WHICH IS MORE ADVANCED?!?! Clifford...?"
@The_Badseed
@The_Badseed 2 ай бұрын
Dont fall for the "Bits" marketing junk.
@dagttv
@dagttv 2 ай бұрын
I taped 5 of my SNESs together with gaff tape. The processors all together have 80 bits. Do the math
@xphiles2345
@xphiles2345 2 ай бұрын
@@dagttv can it run crysis though?
@TheSpiT4201
@TheSpiT4201 2 ай бұрын
This might be the only comparison i have ever seen where the Jaguar actually stands a chance :D
@GregsGameRoom
@GregsGameRoom 2 ай бұрын
Haha yeah. 1:1 comparisons are the way to go.
@MCastleberry1980
@MCastleberry1980 2 ай бұрын
It's definitely cool when you go 1 to 1 with inferior hardware, but the SNES library as a whole pretty much dominates the Jaguar
@notjustklownin9506
@notjustklownin9506 2 ай бұрын
It didn't
@mragain7612
@mragain7612 2 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂
@gaglet
@gaglet 2 ай бұрын
​@@notjustklownin9506yes
@kinorai
@kinorai 2 ай бұрын
11:04 I hate when I forget my grenades when I go to war too! 😄😄
@GregsGameRoom
@GregsGameRoom 2 ай бұрын
I’d forget my head if it weren’t attached.
@ZEKESPILLEDINKMUSIC
@ZEKESPILLEDINKMUSIC 2 ай бұрын
Imagine if, in Starfox, everybody in the squadron was as annoying as the floating green head in Cybermorph constantly interrupting the player with "Where did YOU learn to fly?"
@nothingelse1520
@nothingelse1520 2 ай бұрын
Flashback was amazing. I finished it on the Genesis as a kid. When you get into the later missions it gets crazy
@ConfusionDistortion
@ConfusionDistortion 2 ай бұрын
Not that it will matter much, but Doom on Snes is being reworked and re-released by Limited Run and Bethesda in 2025 for Super Nintendo, with more levels, the missing Episode 4, and improved performance.
@ralfvanbogaert3451
@ralfvanbogaert3451 2 ай бұрын
The Super NES has Super Metroid. The Jaguar does not have Super Metroid. The Super NES wins.
@gateroozeink5061
@gateroozeink5061 2 ай бұрын
You could make the same comparison/decision for a lot of games on SNES but not on Jag.
@rickybobbyracing9106
@rickybobbyracing9106 2 ай бұрын
​@@gateroozeink5061AVP would probably be the one for Jag. Doesn't make up for all the SNES exclusives tho😊
@Ezyasnos
@Ezyasnos 2 ай бұрын
A proper Doom port, Rayman....
@NOLADEEJ
@NOLADEEJ 2 ай бұрын
I never owned either system, and as an Atari lover it’s hard to admit that the SNES was probably a better system overall. I think Atari just didn’t know what to do with consoles starting with the 5200. If Atari had teamed up with another company like Sega or Sony, imagine the possibilities!
@KrunchyTheClown78
@KrunchyTheClown78 2 ай бұрын
During the 7800 days, Atari was more focused on the computer market, when they should have been focused on the console market, and when it was clear they were gonna get stomped in the computer market, they tried to switch gears, but it was too late. Clearly they should never have abandoned the console market that they started with the 2600.
@GregsGameRoom
@GregsGameRoom 2 ай бұрын
Technically the Jaguar has better hardware. But it's what you do with it that matters.
@volkte37
@volkte37 2 ай бұрын
It's not really a probably, the SNES absolutely wipes the Jaguar. But the Jag never had a chance due to the many reasons.
@Trako26
@Trako26 2 ай бұрын
In market terms the Snes was extremely superior to the Jaguar. But the Jaguar is much more powerful than the Snes. It's almost halfway between the Snes and the N64.
@LeoDoesAllThis
@LeoDoesAllThis 2 ай бұрын
About Flashback, well, I know that the opening sequence on the SNES version runs pretty slow, but on the Jaguar version, it runs too fast for some reason. Was surprised that you didn’t mention it yet. And for Double Dragon V, I heard that there’s a prototype ROM of the Jaguar version existed somewhere online, and it was supposed to have the same exact features as the 16-bit versions, although it is in a very early stage and doesn’t have any sound, but it seems that someone at Telegames had to just rush it out and remove them for no good reason, making them think that the current result of the game is the final product when it doesn’t look like it. Shame on them.
@joesshows6793
@joesshows6793 2 ай бұрын
Flashback is better on the jag mainly cause snes version runs at 3fps
@GregsGameRoom
@GregsGameRoom 2 ай бұрын
Yeah, the cut scenes are smoother on Jag thanks to it's faster processor.
@LeoDoesAllThis
@LeoDoesAllThis 2 күн бұрын
@@GregsGameRoom Interesting to know that the Jaguar version of Flashback somehow manages to be capable of running pretty smoothly, unlike its SNES counterpart. Forgot to mention this earlier, but I never realized that you would have a huge hatred towards Zoop and Syndicate's Jaguar port more than any other game you have gone over. If so, why don’t you give Zoop a horrible F- - - grade instead of that Double Dragon V game on your last video about all the Jaguar games you reviewed?
@InvokeSoul
@InvokeSoul 2 ай бұрын
@17:37 yeah, i beaten the game so many times in Megadrive, Snes, PC, Switch and Xbox One. x`DD its one of my favs game ever.
@GregsGameRoom
@GregsGameRoom 2 ай бұрын
Oh awesome! Seems like quite a challenge!
@InvokeSoul
@InvokeSoul 2 ай бұрын
@@GregsGameRoom once you grab the controls is quite easy and rewarding
@beyondu77
@beyondu77 2 ай бұрын
The Jaguar was a huge disappointment. After the 2600, Atari couldn't get their act together IMO.
@adm712
@adm712 2 ай бұрын
One plus about having no music on Jaguar Doom is that you hear the creatures growling and tearing at each others flesh from a distance.
@almacamc9152
@almacamc9152 2 ай бұрын
Yo I have beaten "Flashback" on seven different systems...FACTS!
@8bitsnkboy472
@8bitsnkboy472 2 ай бұрын
Another great video, I really dig these comparisons - please keep them coming Greg. Also, I always feel a bit of shame for not supporting the Jaguar more, because as a huge fan of the original atari system back in the day and also ownng an Atari ST at the time of the Jaguar's release I had really high hopes for the system. Sadly though the lack of Software support really killed any chances the system stood against the looming 32 bit console releases. Such a shame as it was obviously a very capable machine in the right hands, but so few titles showed off it's strengths and most releases were ports of 16-bit titles available elsewhere.
@GregsGameRoom
@GregsGameRoom 2 ай бұрын
I held out myself until AvP was released. Even I could sense that it wasn't going to be successful.
@blackenedheart9592
@blackenedheart9592 2 ай бұрын
I thought Super Double Dragon on the SNES was considered part 4? Idk? I've never been a fan of any of those games honestly, but that's what I've heard a few people say over the years say about Double Dragon 4.
@GregsGameRoom
@GregsGameRoom 2 ай бұрын
Wikipedia says Battletoads/ DD for whatever that’s worth.
@blackenedheart9592
@blackenedheart9592 2 ай бұрын
@GregsGameRoom I never played Battle toads and double Dragon my man on the NES or Super NES because, Well like I said, growing up I played all three original double dragon games and hated them. They just werent my thing. Just like Contra. I'm one of the few people who was born in the 80s and absolutely despise contra lol. Anyway, I did like Battle toads as a kid, but briefly Obviously I didn't get too far because it's way too difficult. And I remember when those games came out with the merger between those two. About that time I had already lost interest. I said to myself, what's the point? Lol. It's like if you were to mix dark souls and Rayman. Lol. I like Rayman kinda, but I hate dark souls. Both are extremely difficult. Lol. So yeah I know that's a bad comparison but, I think you get my point. Great video though by the way I'm not saying anything to ruin your video or nothing No I actually enjoyed it.
@blackenedheart9592
@blackenedheart9592 2 ай бұрын
@@GregsGameRoom I've actually always wanted an Atari Jaguar no matter how bad the games are but obviously I can't afford it now and I don't have a computer to emulate anything. It would be cool though I wanted one when it was new. But it was hard to find. Nobody in my hometown carried them obviously because they weren't that popular and I was in a town of 15,000 people. Lol.
@SweetStevieAaron
@SweetStevieAaron 2 ай бұрын
Wiki is definitely wrong there.
@jahdorose8659
@jahdorose8659 2 ай бұрын
Should compare Nintendo 64 to Jaguar but great video either way
@Idk436-o3j
@Idk436-o3j Ай бұрын
I’ve been waiting so long for this review! 13:16
@bradye21playsIndieHorror
@bradye21playsIndieHorror 2 ай бұрын
So i got some Jaguar documentary ad before this video. The animal. 😂
@arioca
@arioca 2 ай бұрын
Very entertaining video comparing games from consoles in different generations. Note: Power Drift was the first kart racing game released in arcades by Sega in 1988, predating Super Mario Kart on the SNES by 4 years.
@Just-Fauna
@Just-Fauna 2 ай бұрын
I still rememeber the argument back then. "Its 64 but!" yeah, but. I kept losing my button pad inserts. Jaguar Flashback was awesome.
@mightychicken7774
@mightychicken7774 2 ай бұрын
What a weird question... The Super Nintendo, obviously. May not have as much power on paper, but the games, support, marketing, and all that - it wins. I mean come on... this is why Atari all but died right away.
@GregsGameRoom
@GregsGameRoom 2 ай бұрын
Not disputing any of that.
@mightychicken7774
@mightychicken7774 2 ай бұрын
@@GregsGameRoom I will say though... Tempest and Rayman WERE pretty awesome on it. ;-)
@shambleslongplay3566
@shambleslongplay3566 2 ай бұрын
You use the shoulder buttons to select your rockets and grenades. you collect them from the ammo boxes near the huts.
@GregsGameRoom
@GregsGameRoom 2 ай бұрын
Makes sense. Gotta find them first.
@shambleslongplay3566
@shambleslongplay3566 2 ай бұрын
@@GregsGameRoom You did find them.. you just shot them to blow up the huts. your meant to collect them then thrown the grenades at the huts.
@jerronimo13
@jerronimo13 2 ай бұрын
And you use the numerical pad to "do the math"😂😂😂
@EpicLebaneseNerd
@EpicLebaneseNerd 2 ай бұрын
i loved this video, i like the content, subbed.
@dersandy
@dersandy 2 ай бұрын
Ahwyeah, another GGR episode ❤
@GregsGameRoom
@GregsGameRoom 2 ай бұрын
This was a doozy…
@SweetStevieAaron
@SweetStevieAaron 2 ай бұрын
Super Double Dragon (Return of Double Dragon in Japan) was classed as Double Dragon IV up until the more recent DD IV game.
@pacbilly
@pacbilly 2 ай бұрын
One match-up worth considering: Ultra Vortek vs. Killer Instinct. Also worth noting that SNES Cannon Fodder supports the mouse. Also, to be pedantic, Out of This World is more of a spiritual predecessor than a sequel to Flashback. Truth is, Out of This World did have a proper sequel on the Sega CD called Heart of the Alien. The NTSC version of Sensible Soccer for the Jag plays too fast. It's essentially the same game but it plays so fast that it makes games against the computer less fun. Not bad but much better when you're going head-to-head. And speaking of head-to-head, the Jag port of NBA Jam supports the multitap. Yeah, the SNES version supports it too, but it's worth mentioning because Jag multitap games are so rare. Great video though! The best console version of Pitfall: The Mayan Adventure may be the Genesis (and/or Sega CD) version. Buttery smooth frame rate and control that's better than either the SNES or the Jag.
@GregsGameRoom
@GregsGameRoom 2 ай бұрын
Ultra Vortek doesn’t have the combos though. Maybe some of the characters are comparable.
@pacbilly
@pacbilly 2 ай бұрын
@@GregsGameRoomAh, good point!
@zombee38
@zombee38 2 ай бұрын
Also, Dont forget just RF video output on the Jaguar...what they were thinking
@GregsGameRoom
@GregsGameRoom 2 ай бұрын
It can also do RCA or S-Video. I have the cables.
@zombee38
@zombee38 2 ай бұрын
@@GregsGameRoom sorry I didn't know that...did you have to mod it?
@ae5668
@ae5668 2 ай бұрын
@@zombee38 the cables connected to the bare circuit board that sticks out the back.
@ClassicDOOM
@ClassicDOOM 2 ай бұрын
@14:32 Agreed. SNES Doom is a real achievement considering the hardware, and the map layouts are generally much more faithful to the PC originals than those in Jaguar Doom. And SNES in-level music is quite good versus Jaguar's none. But beyond that, the Jag version is an overall better experience: Faster, smoother, more fun. Also, both games had multiplayer, but neither was much good. SNES was extremely simplistic, and Jag multiplayer crashed frequently.
@GregsGameRoom
@GregsGameRoom 2 ай бұрын
JagDoom is definitely one of the best playing versions.
@dominicsmith5588
@dominicsmith5588 2 ай бұрын
I LOVE your comparison vids! I have a really unique suggestion for a future one, The Atari 2600 vs The Vectrex. You would need to be a little creative with some of them for example, the Vectrex did not get an official Asteroids port to compare, but it's pack in title Mine Storm is basically an Asteroids clone and there are a few other games like that where they did not get official licenses. Also you've need to include some homebews, such as the homebrew Battlezone port that got an impressive port to the Atari 2600 and was one it's is most powerful system pushing games.
@pattrell5257
@pattrell5257 2 ай бұрын
I never owned an Atari system, but I really enjoyed my SNES a lot--even over the Sega Genesis(owned that, too, before I knew its flaws). The SG action and char audio was last gen or worse--which affects your gaming experience in a lot of games and you had to wait for a controller that had the functionality of the SNES controller. But, the fact that the Jaguar doesn't blow the SNES away is mindblowing(even the Neo Geo blew away the SNES in almost every game and it didn't have 3D capability when the AJ did).
@TheRealJPhillips
@TheRealJPhillips 2 ай бұрын
I swear the graphics and stage designs on so many of those European developed games back then are just 🤢 GROSS.
@CoolTI-Daniel
@CoolTI-Daniel 2 ай бұрын
Nice video, I always love the concept of the Jaguar and I feel it's a console that could have had success if they had put far more effort on getting proper dev tools and push developers to properly utilize it's hardware in most games. In many ports, devs were simply being lazy and only utilizing the high clocked Motorola chip (Which is similar to the one of the genesis)... They also lacked a lot of ports that would have made the console far more desirable like Street Fighter2 (turbo, super or what not), MK2, MK3... Just like the overpriced 3do and poor decision sega usa/japan infighting 32X... the hardware was there and capable, but the developer time and effort was a huge fail. 11:40 Canon fodder, the enemy groans sound a lot like the original command and conquer infantry death groans.
@ArneChristianRosenfeldt
@ArneChristianRosenfeldt 2 ай бұрын
I like how Amiga does Audio. Why did Atari make it easy to port game logic when C compilers exist, but make it difficult to port music? So Jerry has cache. So I imagine that a few samples of each voice reside there. Bytes are freed up while samples are played. Every time a queue runs empty, the largest free region is filled with the next samples. Fast page mode wants bursts! We only need a clever algorithm so that we don’t need two reads between one output sample. And we better not read on full video lines.
@zoiuduu
@zoiuduu 2 ай бұрын
24:56 wow, so similar to the game jungle book :)
@DryPaperHammerBro
@DryPaperHammerBro 2 ай бұрын
My personal fav from Pinball Fantasies is $1B gameshow
@youuuuuuuuuuutube
@youuuuuuuuuuutube 2 ай бұрын
I used to think the Jaguar was like a 24-bit in terms of power, but after seeing this comparison, it's more like an 18-bit console. Just using the analogy to illustrate the gap between SNES and Jaguar and the 32 bit systems like the PS1 and Saturn, and indeed the Jaguar is much closer to a SNES than it is to a PS1.
@thebudman1980
@thebudman1980 2 ай бұрын
Also for top down shooter going up the screen. The guardian legend. One of my favorites and its more than one kind of shooter. Walk around shoot enemies then transform into a ship. Also has the maze. Awesome game still. Be cool if we could port this to snes for full speed.
@mukiex4413
@mukiex4413 2 ай бұрын
If you want the best Primal Rage port, try it on Saturn. Better yet, try a mirror match in that game. Arcade perfect animation frames.
@GregsGameRoom
@GregsGameRoom 2 ай бұрын
Jaguar does the same thing when it’s the same character. Much smoother animation.
@JGKingCrusher
@JGKingCrusher 2 ай бұрын
The sad part of the Jaguar is that they tried to label it a 64-bit system and tried to compete with the Playstation, which it couldn't. If they had just marketed it as a 32 bit machine and set it's sites on being "better than the SNES" I think they would have gotten better results. Over promise, under perform. I was cheering for them to succeed though. More competition is a good thing in the gaming market.
@GregsGameRoom
@GregsGameRoom 2 ай бұрын
It’s really trapped between the 2D and 3D generations.
@ArneChristianRosenfeldt
@ArneChristianRosenfeldt 2 ай бұрын
It never competed against The PlayStation. Jaguar came out before, in some markets two years. Atari could have focused on EU, UK, Brazil?
@JGKingCrusher
@JGKingCrusher 2 ай бұрын
@@ArneChristianRosenfeldt Was a year and a month here in the states. But then that's like saying the PS3 and XBox 360 weren't really competitors because the XBox came out a year before the PS3. I ended up getting the jag about six months after launch and by then the 3DO was already the #1 renter at my pool hall / game store, so I got all the systems. Even after I got the Jag and then the Playstation, people rented time on the 3DO more than anything. The Jag was just overhyped and underpowered for how they talked it up. The ONLY game that people wanted to play on the Jag was Alien vs Predator.
@ArneChristianRosenfeldt
@ArneChristianRosenfeldt 2 ай бұрын
@@JGKingCrusher I don't understand overhype. I totally understand underpowered. I feel like non-technical try to engage in conversation. Oh the archimedes is surprisingly fast, lets add some custom graphics chip and => 3do. Atari: Let's use the CPU from the original ST and clock it slightly higher? Ah the Amiga has a blitter for wireframe, so let's improve on that and add filled vectors (flat shading), but make it not reach 60 fps in Club Driving. Did Atari not bring Hard'Drivin into the arcades?? How about the PCengine. It was the better NES for 2 years. Sega consoles were short lived. Only exception: genesis.
@aleksazunjic9672
@aleksazunjic9672 2 ай бұрын
Jaguar came way before Playstation (almost two years in US, and that was a lot back in the day 😁). Problem was no one knew how to program it (complex machine, almost no documentation from Atari) . Thus, they reduced it to 16-bit machine, so games do not look much better than SNES or Mega Drive (Genesis). By the time people figured it out it was already too late. Nevertheless, some of the games (alien vs Predator comes to mind) were close in looks to what PS1 could offer.
@NOTLeavingLV
@NOTLeavingLV 2 ай бұрын
Bring back sensible soccer. That looks great and fun!
@marbles8641
@marbles8641 2 ай бұрын
I always thought Super Double Dragon was Double Dragon 4 during the 90s. Even though now we have an official Double Dragon 4, released as a throw back retro game by Arc System Works. I really wish they would have made it more like Hard Corps Uprising.
@GregsGameRoom
@GregsGameRoom 2 ай бұрын
Kinda makes sense. Wikipedia says Battletoads & DD though.
@marbles8641
@marbles8641 2 ай бұрын
@@GregsGameRoom That's more of a Battletoads game TBH. You made me look on Wikipedia, I couldn't find BT&DD even mentioned on Double Dragon V's page.
@KrunchyTheClown78
@KrunchyTheClown78 2 ай бұрын
I own a Jaguar, and I love it to bits. I have real copies of both Doom, and Wolf3D. I plan on getting in on the new fan made version of Doom called the Slayer Edition, that is much more complete, and even has the Icon of Sin map, oh yeah!
@GregsGameRoom
@GregsGameRoom 2 ай бұрын
"Love it to bits." LOL
@KrunchyTheClown78
@KrunchyTheClown78 2 ай бұрын
@@GregsGameRoom ;D
@bananonymouslastname5693
@bananonymouslastname5693 2 ай бұрын
Did they fix the co-op stability? On the standard version of Doom with the JagLink, it crashes constantly. Deathmatch works decently, but co-op is just broken and almost impossible to clear even one stage. My brother and I occasionally play that way, and it always ends abruptly.
@CoolTI-Daniel
@CoolTI-Daniel 2 ай бұрын
The 32X also has Doom Resurrection which shows that in the hands of skilled people given time, it was a highly capable system. Nice to know that Jaguar also has a new updated version, ill look it up.
@jerronimo13
@jerronimo13 2 ай бұрын
Real copies of the only 2 games that were actually good😂 😂😂 love it to bits😅 4x16 do the math
@MAITLANDVAUGHAN-TURNER
@MAITLANDVAUGHAN-TURNER 2 ай бұрын
there are actually a couple of "double dragon 4"s one is called "super double dragon 4" for super nintendo. the other one is on steam, and it's just called double dragon IV. both are pretty good.
@yeismeload
@yeismeload 2 ай бұрын
The Super Famicom/PAL SNES are much slicker to me, despite growing up with NTSC.
@ArneChristianRosenfeldt
@ArneChristianRosenfeldt 2 ай бұрын
The best screen capture of Atari Karts. The floor needs to scroll through a texture buffer because Atari don’t know tiles. Impressive that it fits into memory and can be updated on turns so fast. How is camera rotation triggered? Is there a rate limit? Scanlines far away don’t seem to be scaled down much. The linebuffer has a high resolution. Looking at F-zero, I had the feeling that near the horizon texture access is nearly random. But here it seems like Jaguar should have packed 2x2 px in a phrase and the blitter would hit 2 or 3 of these in a scanline. So a cached phrase would really speed up blitting. Why did Atari not optimize for this case? F-zero was out long before Jaguar! Due to perspective, the next scanline hits totally different phrases. We race the beam. Worst case scanlines need to be fast.
@GregsGameRoom
@GregsGameRoom 2 ай бұрын
Wow, thanks for the rundown! More technical than I could explain!
@FlyingDuckMan360
@FlyingDuckMan360 2 ай бұрын
The SNES - Gold. The Atari Jaguar - Painful, agonizing failure.
@GregsGameRoom
@GregsGameRoom 2 ай бұрын
Can't disagree.
@Gigadenza
@Gigadenza 2 ай бұрын
Regardless of Atari‘s contested “do the math” commercial campaign, I recall many supposedly impartial sources claiming that the Jaguar had enough combined compute power to give any “high end” PC of the era more than a run for its pixels. Unfortunately, as conveyed many times in this video, it was a nightmare for developers to program, meaning that for most multi platform titles already available on 16bit consoles, they probably used these existing versions as templates - leaving the vast majority of workloads to the Jaguar’s general purpose 68000 CPU - rather than code from scratch and find ways to effectively utilise the its extensive graphical capabilities, including heavily augmented sprite scaling, additional image enhancing techniques and hardware accelerated FX. This critical shortfall, combined with a lack of support from major games companies and the comparatively limited space of its cartridge based media meant it stood very little chance against either the Saturn or PlayStation, both of which were newer machines with technical advantages and further benefitted from months of intense hype and prolific publicity before their eventual launch. Games such as Alien’s Vs Predator (my reason for purchasing a Jag!), Tempest 2000, RayMan, NBA and the legendary port of Doom (which roundly humbled those of its contemporary rivals, 32x and 3DO) showed what was possible when the platform’s full potential was harnessed. Then there were titles like Kasumi Ninja and which looked impressive but were poorly executed and felt unbearably sluggish to play. The controller felt cumbersome and often gave my thumbs cramp, though the interchangeable button cards were an inspired innovation!
@ArneChristianRosenfeldt
@ArneChristianRosenfeldt 2 ай бұрын
I re-read the Doom source code, and most of it is C which runs on 68k . Doom was originally written for 486 , so 68k was only targeted because the compiler could not compile calls out of JRISC.
@cubeflinger
@cubeflinger 2 ай бұрын
Wow how embarrassing for jaguar considering how much later it released. I was at a convention in London where they were showing off the alien game and I really wanted one because of it but... Look at it.... Atari is only popular with over 45s.
@Boswd
@Boswd 2 ай бұрын
wow you are so cool and insightful
@GregsGameRoom
@GregsGameRoom 2 ай бұрын
Don’t blame the hardware, blame the management.
@TheRilluma
@TheRilluma 2 ай бұрын
29:08 thats on PC and its name is RAPTOR. and its sequels are called DemonStar & DemonStar Secret Missions..
@GregsGameRoom
@GregsGameRoom 2 ай бұрын
Raiden?
@CoolTI-Daniel
@CoolTI-Daniel 2 ай бұрын
Pretty sure Raptor is a different (and better) game, in the sense that you have health, gain money, purchase / sell equipment, weapons and so on. Raiden is the game and the PS1 version is the best.
@Fools_Requiem
@Fools_Requiem 2 ай бұрын
Val D'Isere and Doom are the only games I've played on both consoles. The Jaguar versions wipe the floor with the SNES version. Val D'Isere's track layouts were much more fair. The SNES version has too many instances where the track suddenly changes directions with no warning, even in early sections, which are supposed to be easier. Also, there's other riders on the slopes in the Jag version, but not on the SNES version.
@joesshows6793
@joesshows6793 2 ай бұрын
Maybe one of the best comparison videos
@GregsGameRoom
@GregsGameRoom 2 ай бұрын
Thank you! Took forever to make!
@MAITLANDVAUGHAN-TURNER
@MAITLANDVAUGHAN-TURNER 2 ай бұрын
Somebody should hack a version of Wolfenstein 3D with "Hawk Tuah" girl
@rinehart7753
@rinehart7753 2 ай бұрын
Seems like a compliment to the SNES to compare it to a 64 bit system
@Mcchubz
@Mcchubz 2 ай бұрын
Atari had the power but the games blowed ..SUPER NES CRUSHES IT MANY OTHER WAYS
@youuuuuuuuuuutube
@youuuuuuuuuuutube 2 ай бұрын
It didn't really have the power actually.
@brunoramos9747
@brunoramos9747 2 ай бұрын
The only games that are better on the jaguar are games that suck completely😂😂 I don't care what anyone says the super Nintendo was a marvel of its time😊😊
@aloiivwizard
@aloiivwizard 2 ай бұрын
it’s an interesting comparison with the SNES coming in as a seasoned veteran and the Jaguar the hotshot young kid. in my humble opinion, MJ beats Kobe here :D
@GregsGameRoom
@GregsGameRoom 2 ай бұрын
MJ is unbeatable!
@heroinpenguin666
@heroinpenguin666 2 ай бұрын
Like you said at the very end, this really isn't a contest since the SNES has the much better games in general and much more of them. If anyone would start collecting now I'd recommend the SNES.
@crestofhonor2349
@crestofhonor2349 2 ай бұрын
You should compare the PC Engine/Turbo Graphics 16 with the NES or SNES. They were direct competitors in Japan
@Jolt7800
@Jolt7800 2 ай бұрын
I had a SNES back in the day. It was the last console I had before my retro revival. If I could have one of these; I would take the Jaguar now.
@jerronimo13
@jerronimo13 2 ай бұрын
Why?😂
@thecurmudgeon7350
@thecurmudgeon7350 2 ай бұрын
Ewww
@DrAcOFoto
@DrAcOFoto 2 ай бұрын
Weirdo. 😂😂😂😂
@mr.y.mysterious.video1
@mr.y.mysterious.video1 2 ай бұрын
This is great proof of software over hardware. The jaguar is clearly more powerful and yet.....that counts for nothing ultimately, its all about the games
@stoogesfan87
@stoogesfan87 2 ай бұрын
SNES
@mr.y.mysterious.video1
@mr.y.mysterious.video1 2 ай бұрын
Nice vid, one thing though, theres no W in jaguar
@GregsGameRoom
@GregsGameRoom 2 ай бұрын
True, but that’s how we Yanks pronounce it. See the opening video for the CD game of Vid Grid. ;-)
@autoneurotic
@autoneurotic 2 ай бұрын
This video reminds me how much I'd love to get a Jaguar someday.
@DieselJT
@DieselJT 2 ай бұрын
As an owner of both of these consoles growing up the Snes is the clear winner.
@ZZtheDark
@ZZtheDark 2 ай бұрын
1:01, oh...so you kids think you're sooo smart?! 3:49, awwww it's Nitrorad. 5:25, where did you learn to fly? 15:35, NOPE. 21:27, even your grammie?!! 0.0 22:15, the music is kickin'! 27:18, when the Jag is better. 28:59, Wait! Did I just see that right?! Toei Animation?! 0_o 32:55, dudu, afro. Polka dot, polka dot, polka dot, afro!
@ae5668
@ae5668 2 ай бұрын
iirc on power drive on the jag if you dont repair the car your top speed goes insanely high.
@cloudskipa
@cloudskipa 2 ай бұрын
There's no hope in hell the SNES could have a port of Rayman that looks anywhere close to the quality of the Jaguar version. 😄
@thefurthestmanfromhome1148
@thefurthestmanfromhome1148 9 күн бұрын
It was originally written for the SNES CD
@brunoramos9747
@brunoramos9747 2 ай бұрын
I don't care how much people think jaguar looks better😂😂😂 Jaguar cannot touch the super Nintendo😊😊
@thebudman1980
@thebudman1980 2 ай бұрын
You can play a fixed copy of snes gradius III where they removed all slowdown but you may want the other patch that removes slowdown but makes the game run normal speed. Because for some it's too fast. I am going to purchase an already made game though instead of flashing a game to an sa1 chip cartridge myself.
@mikerohlfs2836
@mikerohlfs2836 2 ай бұрын
I always thought Trad was Raidens last name...That wasn't the piolets name?
@stratfender89
@stratfender89 2 ай бұрын
Did you find a rom dump of Another World?
@Tinmancr1
@Tinmancr1 16 күн бұрын
Do people not notice how slow Snes games run..?
@Pythoner
@Pythoner 2 ай бұрын
You gave a tie nearly every time the Jaguar version was clearly superior.
@RAFAKSBR
@RAFAKSBR 2 ай бұрын
Jag is really a beast ! Eats the snes alive! 64>16! Do the math
@user-or6yn8pm3c
@user-or6yn8pm3c 2 ай бұрын
Atari took too long to bring out its console. If the Panther came out in 1990 then Atari would have made its comeback. It was hard to sell the Jaguar in 1993 when you had the Genesis and Super Nintendo and on the high end there was the Neo Geo and also the TurboGrafx.
@rars0n
@rars0n 2 ай бұрын
The poor Jaguar got so stiffed. I think the hardware is actually pretty interesting and impressive for its time, even though it was kind of released at the wrong time, but by far its biggest problem was the company selling it. Atari didn't give developers enough support and just wanted to crap out software, not to mention failing to pay for achieved milestones (this is why Fight for Life was infamously released in a broken state). They cheaped out on everything, too.
@ArneChristianRosenfeldt
@ArneChristianRosenfeldt 2 ай бұрын
Why is it slower than 3do ? Why can it hardly match f-zero ? Why do even replacement controllers would have to use the dated electrical protocol? Just put a shift register in the controller and the Jaguar. Trigger read out. This needs to be slow for EMI and the cheap chip in the endangered controller. Interrupt DSP and present all buttons in a 32 bit register.
@standard74521
@standard74521 Ай бұрын
Ty
@thebudman1980
@thebudman1980 2 ай бұрын
The raden game and shes equivalent. I swear i found roms that is a duplicate under a different name and only the ship looks different on snes however i may be thinking of another game. Snes has a duplicated game under different names some exactly the same but the ship and some with levels different a bit but same game. Maybe not this game though. Also Jaguar version of the game has that giant status sidebar to get extra frames out of the game. Similar to Doom allowing shrinking of the screen. This means less pixels to animate for the game because the view port is shunk on jaguar.
@Bloodreign1
@Bloodreign1 2 ай бұрын
No Japanese software on the Jaguar, no bueno for me. Gaming magazines shit on the Jaguar for good reason back in the day. Even the western made software, outside of maybe a few titles, were worth a damn.
@thebudman1980
@thebudman1980 2 ай бұрын
They recently made full pc doom run on gameboy advanced and it's not all that bad except a little lag. Can play doom II and other wads except anything requiring newer hardware from today or that came later. So run doom and mods on gameboy advanced reao hardware. Better than official port on gba. Prboom version.
@bob23301
@bob23301 2 ай бұрын
Now i like the Snes, but i also like the Jag-U-are(for my American cousins), but which one is best, well there is only one way to find out.....FIGHT!!!!!!!!!.(only us from the Uk will get this reference. ;)
@Sensei.shonuff
@Sensei.shonuff 2 ай бұрын
Idk why everybody fronts on the super nintendos design i think its great its NINTENDO. Its just a vibe. and thats a very classic n nostalgic design i didnt have one as a kid we had the sega genesis but the design added to the mystique for me n made me want one even more ...
@Troll_Ha
@Troll_Ha 2 ай бұрын
😆👌🏼
@alcampbell469
@alcampbell469 2 ай бұрын
where did you learn to fly?
@ndsr_tar
@ndsr_tar 2 ай бұрын
and the next comparison is atari jaguar against the 64-bit legend nintendo 64
@ArneChristianRosenfeldt
@ArneChristianRosenfeldt 2 ай бұрын
Those consoles have a lot in common. But then I read how complicated RAMbus actually is. DRAM on Jaguar is so simple. As with N64, RAM should connect to Tom (video) and slow CPU, ROM should daisy chain.
@barryschalkwijk9388
@barryschalkwijk9388 2 ай бұрын
Dragon has way better color on the jaguar. just look at those fishes alone. And i hated the big heads on jaguars NBA jam characters lol.
@Sniper_T_2x
@Sniper_T_2x 2 ай бұрын
Seems like they worried too much about graphics and not fun at Atari
@gaglet
@gaglet 2 ай бұрын
You can turn snes music off in sensible soccer
@Mcchubz
@Mcchubz 2 ай бұрын
snes has great controllers and way more games . Atari Jag has maybe 5 games I liked
@metal--babble346
@metal--babble346 27 күн бұрын
SNES came out before Jaguar .... Atari was actually trying to compete with the PlayStation & Saturn
@thefurthestmanfromhome1148
@thefurthestmanfromhome1148 9 күн бұрын
Jaguar 2 was designed to take on PlayStation and Saturn, the original Jaguar? 3DO,CD32,CDI,32X and SVP Chip SNES and MD.
@leonpaul9443
@leonpaul9443 2 ай бұрын
Thank god the snes in the uk looked nothing like the boxy monstrosity it did in the USA.
@JavierGarcia-yue7m
@JavierGarcia-yue7m 2 ай бұрын
SNES system no. 1 🎉🎉🎉 😍😍😍 Siendo justos, en muchos casos los malos juegos son culpa de los desarrolladores por no aprovechar mejor el sistema; en otros por no tener imaginación al hacer los juegos y en último lugar, el sistema y sus limitaciones... Pudieron hacer mejores juegos, quizá pero no supieron hacerlos 🤔🤔🤔
@ronaldhenson3379
@ronaldhenson3379 2 ай бұрын
The super Nintendo entertainment system had 1000 games
@theflightfile9578
@theflightfile9578 2 ай бұрын
No ofense here but the Jaguar had some nice titles but it was a pretty bad game console. SNES was a freking beast!
@The_Badseed
@The_Badseed 2 ай бұрын
I dont know brother, this is like comparing a legendary video game system and a turd on a truck stop bathroom floor. When people site Tempest 2000 (even though I love Tempest) and the "where did you learn how to fly" game as outstanding games for your system, you are in trouble. Maybe the cd add on will help......oh wait,never mind. About the only good thing i could think to say about the Jaguar is they named their chips "Tom and Jerry".
@ajboomer1347
@ajboomer1347 2 ай бұрын
The "Where-did-you-learn-to-fly?" game you're referring to is Cybermorph (just saying).
@The_Badseed
@The_Badseed 2 ай бұрын
@@ajboomer1347 i was aware of that. That green headed annoying lady was probably the best part of that game, well either that or the N64 level fog that was everywhere
@ajboomer1347
@ajboomer1347 2 ай бұрын
@@The_Badseed Like I said, I'm just saying. It was just in case if you were already aware (which you confirmed).
@GregsGameRoom
@GregsGameRoom 2 ай бұрын
No debating which was the more popular system. Obviously the SNES won there. But clearly not every game was better on the SNES.
@The_Badseed
@The_Badseed 2 ай бұрын
​@@GregsGameRoom to be honest, i dont want to come off sounding like a Nintendo fanboy. I prefer the Genesis, which by the way shares the Motorolla chip with the Jag. I looking at it as I remember back in the day my friend (the only person i ever knew that owned a Jag) trying to convince me that Trevor McFur and this new console hew got kicked ass.
@thebudman1980
@thebudman1980 2 ай бұрын
When jaguar came out it was too expensive and not a true 64 bit console like n64. Couldn't compete with the Saturn or PlayStation. The problem was the cost and the companies knew less people was going to buy it because it was too expensive at the time so there was no heart or compitent programmers to make good games for it. The games would reach a smaller audience. So there was not enough money to go into game development. The later first true 64bit console before 64bit width pc processors and 64bit Windows. The N64 i am talking about did 2d bad. I had the n64 and mortal Kombat was better on PlayStation because the n64 2d sprite limitation. However there is one awesome looking 2d game done with polygons that is a side scroller and looks great and playd at a solid framerate. Maybe 60fps if not 30fps. However they couldn't do it with sprites and i forgot the name but i either owned or rented it when younger.
@alphawoolf5981
@alphawoolf5981 2 ай бұрын
Battlemorph (for the Jaguar CD) is a much improved sequel to Cybermorph. It is a great game (one of the only reasons to have a Jag CD) and blows Starfox out of the water, IMO. For American football, try Brutal Sports Football. It's actually quite fun.
@GregsGameRoom
@GregsGameRoom 2 ай бұрын
I love both of those games!
@DarthGylcolious
@DarthGylcolious 2 ай бұрын
EXCELLENT video, gives a perspective of the Jaguar I've never seen before. Good work on your creative choice to set it off against the SNES, it was very engaging.
@user-or6yn8pm3c
@user-or6yn8pm3c 2 ай бұрын
The Super NES wins hands down. Atari was too late.
@thebudman1980
@thebudman1980 2 ай бұрын
Any snes emulator out there that can nba jam online with good enough ping? Because i want to kick some nba jam ass. Pick an nba jam season game. Or even n64 nflblitz. Was awesome and you could make plays and save to your n64 memory card and use them at the actual arcade. Can't like the extra large goofy heads on atari version. Can't unsee that.
@64-Bit-Gamer
@64-Bit-Gamer 2 ай бұрын
These videos are so watchable! Pretty sure SNES Cannon Fodder was censored for blood and screaming, but it was mouse compatible. Jaguar version is best.
@GregsGameRoom
@GregsGameRoom 2 ай бұрын
Haha tiny pixel blood!
@michaelmartinez5217
@michaelmartinez5217 2 ай бұрын
So why not do a "64 vs 64" comparison??? Lol
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