Super Simple | 2020 Super Duty 7.3L Gas V8 vs 6.7L Powerstroke Diesel | Underhood Inspection

[@TestTest-fm2cu]

Honestly just looking under the hood of the 6.7 stresses me out, there’s so much shit going on

[@MrStaybrown]

The company I work for moved away from ford for that very reason. When parts needed replaced, it meant that vehicle would be out of service for a long time. When a water pump takes days, that's money lost.

[@jeffquinn5653]

Also have to pull the cab of the truck when doing work on the back side of the engine.

[@victorgirouard1543]

It's not all that bad to work on. Replacing a turbo on a 6.7 isnt much harder then a turbo on the 6.0

[@victorgirouard1543]

@@jeffquinn5653 not true most can be accessed from the wheel wells or from underneath above the trans .

[@MrStaybrown]

@The Man not for mine site mechanics. 😅 They get their buttkicked by brakes.

[@Autophysn]

The Godzilla in my opinion is simply the modern version of the 460. Legendary performance reborn! God Bless Ford! ;)

[@mylanmiller9656]

let us hope it don't get the same 4 miles to a gallon when pulling a trailer like a 460.

[@Autophysn]

@@mylanmiller9656 check out Fast Lane Trucking's full review. It got 15mpg average stock, then 11 mpg heavily modified

[@gfinnstrom]

I remember the 460 we had them in our ambulances great strong engine

[@mylanmiller9656]

@@Autophysn I bought a new 460 with a 5 speed standard for pulling a 28 ft Holiday trailer in 1989, My truck would get 11 miles to a gallon empty and 4 mpg loaded! That truck had a short life span in my drive way!

[@Autophysn]

@@mylanmiller9656 yeah, strong as hell, but thirsty too! I have had my fair share of the 460 in everything from work trucks to High cube delivery vans, hot rods and jet boats... They truly were a bulletproof motor, but thirsty thirsty thirsty hahahahaha!!!! But I am use to that. My daily driver is an Excursion that gets 8 mpg LOL!

[@InuranusBrokoff]

7.3 makes more sense for most folks. I'd have it even for towing due to the fact I could work on it myself, and do most repairs in a day, as opposed to a week.

[@tylersutton1048]

Your not going to have to work on a 6.7 diesel or this 7.3 gas. Their bulletproof

[@zb6618]

Tyler Sutton the DPF is FAR from bulletproof

[@marshallforeman2051]

@@tylersutton1048 the 6.7 diesel is somewhat bullet proof, it's all of the emissions that's the BIG PROBLEM that why ford only warrants the emissions part of that 6.7 for 3 years 36000 miles the motor is 100000 warranty , when those emission Fuck up your looking at big $$$$ to fix, I just traded 6 months ago for 6.2 gas an I love it ,I can pull 11000 lbs trailer no problem, It does have a little drinking problem pulling that load but I don't care, that diesel cost me a lot more then what I will every spend in gas an the b.s. you here that a diesel holds value better that gas is b.s., it does hold a little bit but not like you think

[@dr._breens_beard]

@@marshallforeman2051 going forward, i expect diesel pickups to absolutely plummit in resale value. lower mileage on the gas absolutely will still be far cheaper than fixing a diesel emission system when it fails.

[@Harry-zz2oh]

@@AdSando12 Not always true. Unless a person buys the "extended warranty" and sets aside enough money (savings) they may not have enough to pay for the $$$ repairs. My 08 Dodge 2500 with the Cummins has been pretty good, but in the first couple of years it spent a lot of time in the shop getting the EPA stuff repaired. Now I'm looking to upgrade to a one ton but I really don't need the diesel. I'm trying to decide if the 7.3 gas or the 6.2 gas would work well for me. I haul a trailer with my Jeep but I also have my truck camper in the bed (3,500#~).

[@BarnStangz]

Ford is going to sell a LOT of 7.3 equipped trucks for sure! That is more than enough engine for 95% of truck buyers.

[@Sparkchaser1]

BarnStangz yeah but it doesn’t make your manhood bigger like having the diesel ( in some minds)😄

[@BarnStangz]

@@Sparkchaser1 Haha, oh yeah, there is a LOT of Napoleon complexes going on with these big ass trucks. Don't get me wrong, I like them too and I think that diesel is an amazing truck, but most people are never going to use it to its full potential and some people just need to always say that they have the best, most option loaded truck. I never understand shit like that, but whatevs. I buy what I need and usually not much more, these trucks are already hella over-priced!

[@Sparkchaser1]

BarnStangz I know a lot of these guys. Using them as a daily driver, not their intended purpose. Should at least find a 7500# load to pull once and a while, for the sake of the engine

[@BarnStangz]

@@Sparkchaser1 I hear ya man. I dunno, pickup never made sense to me as a daily... But hey, this is America, do what you want. But yeah, these trucks were made to work, slap something in that bed or hook up a heavy load every once and a while, poor truck just wants to work!

[@AmericanSurvival001]

Please at 12mph around town??? Put down the Bong.... No one will buy them except service vehicles that absolutely need the HP-TQ and can afford the profit loss in fuel... Dul alternators to stupid.... $600 bucks each=garbage Fraud and their cheap parts Not to mention naming the engines ...LOL

[@LA_Commander]

Although I used to be a fan of the durability of a diesel motor, these newer diesels have been so smogged-out with so many emissions components due to regulations that they are now more complicated than the gasoline motors. Used to be the other way around! The gas motors look easier to work on, have fewer parts to go wrong, and being naturally aspirated will last longer with normal maintenance. And hey, if you really need more HP, you can always add a supercharger to it. There's room in there. In my opinion this new 7.3 is the way to go.

[@twowheelsclubseals]

Once warranty is up just delete, not too rough and bunches of extra power and mpg

[@jza80king]

@@twowheelsclubseals true but depending where you live, you then have to deal with getting it to pass emissions.

[@danfromga9696]

@@twowheelsclubseals most shops won't even do it on these new diesels, it's unfortunate

[@Bostonharborwater]

The 6.7 is incredible how powerful it is but just popping the hood and looking at the mess of nonsense that awaits you once the warranty is up is rather disturbing

[@nia6849]

True

[@kylewilson7606]

This makes me never want to get rid of my 2000 7.3

[@78ginop]

Dont you just regret it

[@codyparker679]

I'm wanting to get rid of my 2000 7.3 for a 2020 7.3. Just cause diesel is great but I'd love a new truck and the 6.7 is just too much

[@ScottyP5947]

@@codyparker679 how'd it go? I'm planning to do the same.

[@patrickmartin6037]

Keep that 2000 7.3 you won't regret it

[@JaredJanhsen]

Good grief, that 6.7L alternator setup makes me cringe. On my old 7.3L Powerstroke I could change the alternator faster than I could get a pizza delivered to my front door, and that included the drive to the parts store to get the new alternator.

[@vannorman1116]

And thats an absolute fact...I've done the exact same thing !!

[@LA_Commander]

The 7.3L Powerstroke from the 90s was the best diesel Ford ever made. They just don't make them like that any more!

[@patrickmartin6037]

Ford should have kept the old 7.3

[@4kracing797]

I have a 2020 Tremor with the 7.3 and I will tell you it's a beast. Moreover, it sounds amazing and pared with the new 10 speed, it's a muscle truck. When you tickle the throttle it flat out rips!!! On the hwy cruising 75 -80 it runs at 2k rpm, so it's a low rpm design thanks to the 10 speed. The tremor comes with a 4.30 rear end which also helps make it so stinking fun to drive. Love my Tremor! Btw, I came off a GMC 2500HD with a Duramax.

[@dav2386thor]

What kind fuel might do you get with the 4:30s debating on ordering with 3:73 or 4:30

[@baronvolkov6172]

@@dav2386thor its either 3.55 or 4.30 with the 7.3 motor. 3.73 is only available with the 6.2 gas motor

[@gradyb6264]

Solid overview of the two truck engines!

[@chrisdemas8246]

That 7.3 gas in a Tremor package is it!

[@jasongrimm228]

Traded a power stroke in on a 7.3 gas. So far I’m really digging the gas engine. Averaging 12.5 mpg. My power stroke got 14.5 mpg. So gas mileage isn’t much different. While the big gas doesn’t make the same power as the diesel it has plenty of power for me!

[@peterlucas6732]

Wow I'm getting almost 18 mpg on my 6.7. (2019)

[@joelskeen]

@@peterlucas6732 I just bought a 2020 6.7l and with mostly freeway driving i averaged 19.9 MPG for the first tank.

[@survivalguyfyi5718]

Also you are paying less for gas per gallon and no DEF fluid. That should even your fuel bill out to about the same. Now factor in cheaper oil changes, no fuel filters and an 8K cheaper price tag. 8k less is about $120 less on your loan. That's two fill ups a month. And if you need repairs done now you won't be shelling out $8.600 like I did 1 month after I bout my 6.0 with 129k miles on it. And these new diesels triple pulse on the injectors instead of single pulse. So they only last 150k now instead of 500k. At 1,000 per injector, no thank you. Cummins and Powerstroke also use Bosch lifter pumps that work great until they fail and when they do, they destroy everything they send metal shavings through. About 15k and my brothers Ram just did it with only 9,000 miles on it.

[@CutlassSupreme6969]

I like how ford took a lesson from S&B Filters and moved the filter in front of the battery.

[@acdii]

Actually that steering part you pointed out is part of the lane keeping system, auto parking, Pro trailer backup assist, and Adaptive steering if equipped. It has a motor in it to move the steering wheel when active. I am trying to decide on either one of these engines for an F350 Dually. It would be more a daily driver, but will also be used for towing a 13K 5th wheel, and there will be mountains involved on some, but not all trips.

[@Bearclaw_Jake]

When the day comes that my 6.8 bites the dust, I'll be upgrading to the 7.3 Godzilla. No replacement for displacement.

[@ajfam871]

I agree I have turbo 4 hatchback and the power and Fuel is downright amazing but for long term durability and simplicity less is more and I’d rather have a v8 or V6.

[@todd2962]

The more and more I look under the hood of modern diesels, the more and more I consider buying a gas 3/4 ton.

[@hd114ul7]

When I looked under the hood of the new Powrstroke I saw an EPA nightmare!!! I closed the hood and ordered a 7.3 Godzilla and love it.

[@KingDeadPool11]

I just traded my 15' powerstroke in for a 2021 f250 with the 7.3, and I'm happy with the decision.

[@587G]

Nice, wish I could have found one, but I'm happy with my new Chevy 2500 6.6... but SD was my first choice, good luck with yours!!

[@587G]

3 minutes into your video.... I'm going to go with the 7.3 to tow my travel trailer. Nice review btw.

[@dkcarroll13]

That 6.7 engine bay is a nightmare

[@thulsa5218]

I've been saying this for around a decade now that new diesels are a "pie in the sky" for most people. When you do the math a good reliable gas truck is a thing of beauty and simplicity!!

[@Harry-zz2oh]

I bought a Dodge 2500 with the Cummins diesel back in 2008. It has worked extremely well for towing my fifth wheel trailer and my truck camper. I've had some issues but most were covered under warranty. I paid about $30,000 brand new. Now I'm looking to upgrade to a one ton but the price has really gone up in the past 12 years. Why? Maybe too many things bought from China? I don't know, but I do know the EPA has cost everyone a lot of money to meet the new standards, which seem to change each year trying to get the last 5% of the emissions out of the engines.

[@pedrothemexican3360]

Nice to see that Ford moved the airbox to its correct location. A lot of the 2017-2019 owners are going to be swapping to this config. Much smarter.

[@sebastiencharette6637]

The idea of a diesel like in the old days was to have fewer moving parts so it could be more reliable. Its not so much anymore. Honestly I would get a gasser if i had to choose. Cheaper to buy and maintain. I don't need 1000ft lbs of torque and certainly not the shop bill.

[@georgecass8529]

The Diesels where more economical in the 80's, 90's and early 2000's

[@christopherwynn1665]

The hydro boost only comes on the dual rear wheel F350

[@EricFortuneJr.]

The benefits of a pushrod gas V8 .💪🏾🔧 More compact so it fits well with acres of space for working and modifying. Even the difference between the 7.3 and 6.2 engine bay are noticeable. I realized this awhile back when I had a 4.6 pulled out of Ford interceptor and a GM 5.7 (350) both on engine stands. Two great, legendary yet different designs. I understand Diesels have a lot more going on under the hood yet they have more benefits if you work with your truck, they also have decades tuning potential behind them.

[@brianstough5286]

In what way does a Triton 4.6 compare with a GM 5.7?

[@EricFortuneJr.]

Brian Stough I wasn’t comparing them, I was using them in a context that would suggest that push rod engines are more compact than overhead cam engines. Where did I lose you?

[@brianstough5286]

@@EricFortuneJr. You used the term "legendary" when referring to the 4.6 triton

[@EricFortuneJr.]

Brian Stough The 4.6 modulars as whole, not just the Triton. The 4.6 isn’t without faults, but it was a pretty decent platform in regards to reliability. They could easily do 300,000 miles in the Crown Vic and I’ve seen a few trucks with similar mileage and minimal oil consumption. No to knock the GM 350 as it’s pretty dependable and easy to work around. Ford ran the 4.6 in a lot of platforms throughout the 90s and 2000s until it was replaced. Still one of the most common engines on the road to date.

[@LA_Commander]

@@brianstough5286 the 4.6L 2V V8 was one of the most durable motors Ford ever built. You can get half a million miles on them IF you do the maintenance. I've seen many commercial vehicles go that far. Tax cabs, limousines, police cars, you name it. The 4.6 is freaking durable, though not high on horsepower.

[@mudbuster50]

Man I thought my LML was a mess. I love ford trucks, but I won't be in the market anymore for a diesel after this one is gone. They aren't worth it anymore. I've had all three over the past 20 plus years and the cost now a days is ridiculous. How much more will it take before these manufacturers price themselves out of a job?

[@glennporter771]

I do love the simplicity of my 2018 3500 Ram w/Cummins But I agree the pricing is getting ridiculous for sure

[@RadDadisRad]

They never will price themselves out of a job when so many people have to have a new diesel truck every year.

[@mudbuster50]

@@RadDadisRad true and the funny thing is almost all of the diesel owners have never towed anything in their life.

[@tonybrown2135]

But they can roll coal! PS, I do miss my '03 CC 7.3 I replaced it with an '05 Excursion V10 I pull a 32' Jayco 32BHDS My next CC will be a 7.3 gasser.

[@bmiller1325]

Been a loyal ram owner since 1999 Went to drive a new power stroke thought I wanted the new 6.7 and 10 speed . It ran and drove great. Then I looked under the hood OMG what a night mare. Ordered and new 2021 Ram

[@Turbo-wj9qc]

I drove the 7.3 today and it has some serious power even in 10th at 70 it PULLS. If I liked the rest of the truck as much as my 6.0 Chev it would be tempting.

[@samduran5180]

I feel you that would be a hard sell the 6.0 is a killer engine as well.

[@RadDadisRad]

I have a 6.0 Chevy and it’s a turd on wheels. It runs and won’t die but damn it doesn’t get out of its own way in a head wind.

[@resharddurdley6987]

6.0 Chevy gas is an absolute pos. I had 2 of them. NEVER again.

[@samduran5180]

@@resharddurdley6987 My first 6.0 was in 2000 short bed extended cab, we supercharged it to tow a 40' toy hauler 24,0000+lbs. Now 360,000+ miles is now a lifted overland setup. She's only had a tranny rebuild. My son has 2015 6.0 with I believe cam headers, tune, cold air and toque converter. That truck runs just as good as mine did in 2000 when I first supercharged mine. We've had great experiences so far.

[@blackhatter011]

@@samduran5180 what the hell are cam headers?

[@raptordan6851]

After my 2017 platinum blew up it’s third turbo in 40,000 miles I’m getting the 7.3

[@smacdiesel]

I'm still driving my 2006 6.0 power stroke. Got an estimate for about 15,000 dollars to do a complete bulletproof. I don't like the modern diesel emission setup, that's why I'm thinking in rebuilding my existing truck. But after watching this video I think I'll check out the 7.3 option. Just like the idea of not worrying about a live grenade under the hood.

[@SVTPerformance]

At a point it seems silly to pour that kind of money into a 15 year old truck, but it’s hard to argue with the results.

[@victorgirouard1543]

Just did a turbo on a 6.7 2 weeks ago total job was 3480 and only took me 7 hours with drain and refill primary coolant system and a oil and filter change.and refilled with almost 4 gallons new coolant.

[@jaimerodriguz7406]

Great trucks but i think i will keep going in my 1972 F250. With a FE 390. Still going strong just did a few modifications like aluminum heads and intake bigger cam headers. Nothing like an old F250 truck

[@SVTPerformance]

Old Iron is making a big comeback.

[@mitchellyardanoff4666]

Good idea by modernizing your old FE, so many cool aftermarket upgrades available today!

[@FlatPlaneCranky]

6.7 is a beast but with EPA dousing one of the huge purposes of owning a diesel....longevity.....the 7.3 Godzilla is looking nice!! Diesel engines are now disposable. Thinkin my next superduty gonna be a gasser.

[@kelceyk8199]

You clearly have no idea what you're talking about. The 6.7 will be running like new at 500k while the 7.3 bit the dust at 250k

[@FlatPlaneCranky]

Kelcey K Bet you never even owned a diesel pickup before. Ha ha ha!! Own a few diesels and put your money where your mouth is before you start blabbing on KZbin of something you know nothing about. 🙄

[@tomlorenzen4062]

@@kelceyk8199 EPA has ruined every diesel period. Own many, have started buying gas, starting last yr with f250 6.2.

[@AmericanHandgunner44]

Kelcey K there are a whole lot of 6.7s out there that have had a whole lot of issues before 200k let alone 500k. The 7.3 remains to be seen. A lot of the V10s sure made it to high miles and better than the 6.0 or 6.4.

[@resharddurdley6987]

@@AmericanHandgunner44 The 6.7 powerstroke is the best diesel engine period out of all 3. Yes emissions issues after 100k, but 6.7 powerstroke is an excellent longevity platform

[@vstabill36]

On my 7.3L DIESEL, you could change out an alternator in like 1 minute if you practiced it. Exceedingly easy to do. Looking at the 6.7 all I think is... Hell no.

[@AK_Ray]

The lower intake is still plastic on the 6.7. They swapped materials from lower and upper intake to mitigate heat soak.

[@15Jeep]

First Time Viewer! Great Comparison. Two Comments: 1. Intercooler Boots: The BEST boots are from Dieselsite - 3 layer ---> Aramid - Fluoroelastomer - Rubber that is practically indestructible. Silicone is not compatible with fuel or oil and will breakdown. 2. Air Filers - a few aftermarket products offer much better performance.

[@mexital1159]

I can reach damn near everything in the new 7.3! With room to swing a ratchet! My God, home owners and small construction companies can fix their own trucks again!

[@jondavidbristow9819]

I test drove a 2020 7.3 and liked it but I'm sticking with the 6.7 after I sell 2012 6.7

[@cjoutdoors2623]

Seeing a non deleted truck gives me anxiety. It’s so cluttered🤣🤣

[@daltonbrink9924]

Wow! That 7.3 kinda reminds me of the LS! Port injection, Coil near plug, pushrods... Hell, the alternator is in the exact same place!

[@jackwells1452]

That's because the engineer that designed the 7.3 engine went to work for chevy and now you have the LS

[@Soulman-je7eg]

Thanks for information trying to convince my bosses of a new service truck that 6.7 is not service truck material

[@garrywhitaker1665]

I just recently sold my 2004 6.o power stroke. I've spent over $10,000 getting it dependable and put 65,ooo miles on and started having issues again. So that being said I just purchased a 2021 7.3 and I'm loving it. The power it has is unbelievable. Thanks for the video. Hello from Tennessee

[@dav2386thor]

What rear end do you have and out of curiosity what kind of fuel mileage are you seeing? I'm debating if I wanna order mine with the 4:30 or 3:73 rears

[@garrywhitaker1665]

@@dav2386thor 3:73 and normal driving I get between 15 to 19.5. I have gotten 22.3 but I can't always drive @ 55mph

[@dav2386thor]

@@garrywhitaker1665 man that's not bad at all. Think I'll re test drive the one with 3:73 and be sure before I order mine Wednesday. Wish they had one with 4:30 on the lot.

[@garrywhitaker1665]

@@dav2386thor my co worker bought a Ram 2500 gas engine and he claims to get better mpg than I do. I've not rode or driven his truck to see for myself. Thought I would throw that out there. My company has a f250 with the 7.3 gas and the mpg with the trailer hooked up drops down to 11-12 mpg.

[@dav2386thor]

@@garrywhitaker1665 I do have a friend that has the 6.4 and have talked with others that claim about 14 mpg empty all gas truck towing drop significantly. 11 to 12 towing is still pretty good.

[@doncrawford8872]

I am enjoying your video. I'm strongly considering the 7.3L. I plan to haul a camper of about 1500 lbs with a F350.

[@chrish5096]

Don Crawford 1500lbs and you’ll be fine with the 6.2. The 6.2s are good motors

[@LA_Commander]

Only 1,500 lbs.? Why even get the Godzilla then? Why not just the 5.0 V8?

[@mjc250]

It’s actually yellow coolant. Green dye is installed from the factory so leaks can be detected if they have leaks. But spec is yellow

[@chipps1066]

thanks nice to hear from somebody who knows what they are talking about.

[@RenovationsandRepair]

I will be getting a 7.3. Easier to work kn and there is always the option of a Whipple down the road if I need kick in power.

[@BobSmith-mc7uq]

Excellent video, appreciate the explanation as to what is what! No airflow in the 6.7l engine compartment, cook everything to early death. Aftermarket is going to binge on the 7.3l engine. 7.3l F150 & Mustang swaps are in the near future.

[@6bt_str86]

I'm chomping at the bit, I have a foxbody coupe out back that's in need of a powerplant.... fortunately (or unfortunately) I'm tapped so I gots time, but looks like before we see reasonable prices on these in local junkyard is quite a while out...the double edged sword

[@RadDadisRad]

I’d wager that ford might make a 7.3 50 state smog kit.

[@subshooting8414]

@@RadDadisRad fingers crossed they offer a turn key crate motor package.

[@BobSmith-mc7uq]

@@subshooting8414 Good chance of that happening. F150 shortbed with the 7.3L would be a Blast. Lay in a stock of tires for it!

[@6bt_str86]

@@RadDadisRad if the AOC's get back in charge yo can bet your wager on $8 gal Gas where it's currently (and steady as a rock) been under $2.40 👎

[@UploaderNine]

A hose clamp? I am so damn happy I do my wrenching in Detroit. I've never heard anyone in 30 years of doing this worry about a hose clamp.

[@drjohnsonhungwell5115]

UploaderNine I think he meant that the position it was in would rub the other hose over time and rub a hole in it .

[@nightfall22]

7.3 is the engine for me. That diesel just says headache all over it

[@nightfall22]

machaf LoL 😂

[@aldonco]

I still own Several old diesel 7 threes I will not touch the new diesel.

[@jeffquinn5653]

Not nec the case Maschaf. Wait till you have to pull the entire chassis for repairs on the 6.7. Would ruin my year. Makes the simplicity of the 7.3 gasser real appealing for those of us not towing everyday.

[@randal3122]

dont forget to consider resale value though...gassers tank in value rather quickly

[@atvrepairsandmore2482]

@@randal3122 Does not matter if you keep your truck for 10 years. Plus what you will spend for diesel repairs will far exceed the lose of a gas resale value.

[@randallkelley3600]

I can't believe it took this long for any of the big 3 to do this. Diesels have gotten astronomically priced, but the gas option was a small block. Rams 6.4 wasn't that much more of an engine than the 5.7 (which isn't available on the 2500 anymore anyway). Modern tech can make a big block V8 much more efficient than the big blocks of old.

[@SVTPerformance]

I believe the success of Ford's 7.3L will spur other manufacturers to invest more heavily in their large HD gas engines.

[@bkeenan85_outdoorlife]

Dont forget about the 6.2 with 4.30 gears. I have that truck. With the HP and Torque , the 6.2 will haul pretty dam well. I pull 5th wheel and goose neck both weigh around between 10.5k to 12k. I'm telling u it pulls well and torquey!👍👍👍

[@fathertime209]

What kind of mileage do you get on your set up?

[@0347kali]

Without a need to tow heavy trailers the 7.3 is perfect

[@6bt_str86]

Be a mighty fine tow Machine for the landscaping boys etc... Though 🤘

[@melocts]

I had been towing 12,000 daily with a 5.4 f350 and is fine. The 7.3 is more than plenty

[@6bt_str86]

@@melocts that says a lot for the 7.3 gasser if that ragally 5.4 held up to that....👍🤓

[@faithandfarmingtennessee872]

An 7.3l F350 4x4 with 4.30 gears can tow 20k. There's 3 overdrive gears in the 10sp trans, so it should still be a nice setup.

[@jamesgreer1046]

How big of a trailer do you have?

[@silverspiderpig5]

Fueling system is all new in the dsl, in addition to the turbo these things are very capable. Also the 7.3 is about 600 lbs lighter than the dsl. And the steering box is also for the lane keep assist tech.

[@caterpiller95]

Makes me really like my old 12 valve Cummins

[@specialperson170]

both of those motors are way more than most people will ever need

[@brucedressel4523]

My 7.3 powerstroke will still be running long after these new trucks are sitting in the boneyard ...

[@roadglide1142]

To do serious repair work on the 6.7 the cab has to come off of the truck! I’ll stick with the gassers ! I could sleep 😴 soundly with the room in the engine bay! The EPA has ruined what was once a simplistic design of a great motor!

[@Jackmerius_Tacktheretrix]

Yeah, the repair labor rates for a 6.7 is insane! I'd hate to be the poor bastard that owns one out of warranty considering how many problems our trucks have. This is why I'm not a fan of v8 diesels. After seeing under the hood of the duramax and powerstroke I never even considered the titan xd just because it was a v8 diesel until I looked under the hood of my friends. It was like looking at a gasser. There is tons of room to work on everything! You could change the belt, alternator, water pump etc without taking anything apart at all. And you can reach behind the intake and easily access the transmission bell housing and bolts. Injectors are right there in your face along with the fuel rails so changing injectors is a simple task that could easily be done without taking anything apart. You can see thru the engine bay to the ground. It really looks like a gas burner under the hood. And since I didnt need a 3/4 ton I pulled the trigger and have been happy so far. No it doesnt have the power of these newer 3/4 tons but I dont need that much, and let's be honest they wont hold up doing work non stop with that kind of power, that's why the F550, F650 and F750 have 330hp as their most powerful emversion of the 6.7. These trucks are in a numbers war like the muscle cars used to be. Honestly it's as easy to access as this 7.3 but cleaner/neater engine bay. If I did need a 3/4 ton and I was going to own it past the factory warranty I'd definitely go for the F250 with the 7.3 just because it wouldn't break your wallet for even basic repairs. The performance on the TFL towing test really impressed me compared to GM and Rams v8.

[@Jackmerius_Tacktheretrix]

@@tylersutton1048 I know plenty a out what I'm talking about. I've been working in the oilfield since 2017. Yes if you delete it then it will be much more reliable, but our trucks have had shit tons of issues. I actually do like the powerstroke but I'd hate to be the poor bastard that doesnt have a warranty first time something breaks. Doing an EGR Delete frees up a shit ton of space under the hood to where you can actually work on them though. My coworker has a 16 model and has a bigger turbo, full EGR delete, intake pipes the whole 9 and is easily making over 700hp. But the fact is the reliability has been very inconsistent. We have some that have no issues and 3 at Roger's Ford right now, 2 with less than 20,000 miles for engine issues. Granted they are F550 but those are all derated to 330hp so you'd think that would help reliability. So while you have your experiences I have had mine. So that's that. Glad you have had no issues with yours. Unfortunately I have, and every F250 and F350 I've had has had A/C issues, when idling and the temp gets colder at night then warms up the A/C wont get cold. Sometimes it does after driving for a few minutes, other times it takes longer, and my last 550 when it was regening it would start knocking loud as hell and if you even touch the gas pedal it instantly revs to 4,000 by itself. 2 other coworkers have this problem too. My current one doesnt do the knocking thing but my other one did. So dont tell me I don't know what I'm talking about just because my experience is different from yours. I'm talking real life experiences, not bullshiting.

[@eharris6347]

That's good , but 280k miles on a diesel is nothing to even come close to bragging about , I think we forgot what good Diesel engines were ,

[@Jackmerius_Tacktheretrix]

@@tylersutton1048 I've had climate control issues with every Suoer duty I've had, and we have almost half of our trucks at Roger's Ford with less than 20,000 miles. I like the trucks but they're not very well made based on our experiences. The F550s are the worst, and even though 550s are derated to 330hp they're still problematic. On thing Ford has gotten right is the emissions. And while it will choke and burn your eyes during a regen, I've never had any issues with the emissions systems messing up. But I've encountered quite a few, including mine, that while performing a regen while idling, will suddenly make this loud knocking sound like a rod is about to come through the block, and if you even tap the throttle by accident it revs to over 4,000rpm and the knocking is flat out scary, then it dies and after a couple of attempts it starts back up as if nothing happened. This was at 14,000 miles So I've learned to watch my feet so I dont bump the throttle. Then my power locks quit working for a couple of weeks only to magically start working again. A/C wont blow cold, the others, if it colder in the morning right before sunrise and you have the temp dial set in the middle or just barely to the warm, and the sun comes up and it gets warmer, when you try to switch to A/C it just blows hot until you drive for a while. The engine in my first 550 mysteriously blew at 14,000 miles. No warning lights, just suddenly lost power. I pulled over and all of the gauges were fine. Started ut back up and it immediately began knocking loud. Turned it off, turned it back on and suddenly the temp gauge was maxed and the oilfield pressure was low, I immediately shut it off. After a few minutes I had to move it so I started it and it had no issues, then after I turned the key off the low pil pressure light came on. Checked it and it had oil. I've had enough issues with them for the last 12 years at my job that I wont buy one. And rams arent any better, their ride is downright punishing, the front suspension isnt worth a crap, it's always needing rebuilt. With the Fords I've never had a suspension issue. The Chevys ride better on the lease roads but is not as open feeling inside. Sucks because I really like the powerstroke but its reliability has been an issue big time.

[@philipgates988]

Shoulda kept my 90 dodge dually with the Cummins, simple, 460 foot pounds which is more than enough, got 22 mpg when driving 60 mph. This 7.3 is perfect power wise.

[@johnhill7480]

First mod to Godzilla would be a solid tube intake. All my Ford's got air silencer deleted frees up intake efficiency gives a nice suction sound at WOT.

[@twoeyedjack879]

My mildly tuned and deleted 6.4 puts down over twice the torque as the 7.3 gasser. That said, I am terrified of what it is going to take to keep it running. Might be time to get the gasser and just go a lot slower.

[@zacharylocicero9297]

Gasser 😒

[@polarbear5740]

@TwoEyed Jack I'm on the fence with this myself.. decision time.

[@harleyjackson5513]

I would take this 7.3!

[@polarbear5740]

@@harleyjackson5513 definitely considering it!

[@harleyjackson5513]

It is just a great motor. Built for longevity and reliability. Built in Windsor, Ontario Canada. Alot of History at that plant. Everything is easily servicable.

[@cosmiclawnmower9818]

Wow. That 6.7 engine bay is a mess right off the assembly line. I feel sorry for the guy that has to work on those.

[@dusty_bones]

after having a 6.7 for 3 years, all that space in that 7.3 engine bay is absolutely beautiful. lol

[@optimisticfuture6808]

Even though my company has purchased numerous dodge, Chevy, ford diesels and they are great engines. They are ALWAYS a poor choice over gas in the HD range. Reason is they are 150k engines and then $10 to $20k repairs and the added cost of diesel etc you will never make it back. Stick with gas and put a telemetry system rid of employees that push your equipment. Rapid acceleration, high g turns and braking. Just fire the person. Period or get out your pocketbook

[@philipgates988]

Eric Patterson I agree. I stopped tolerating bad help when I started watching expenses more closely.

[@Harry-zz2oh]

Does the Ford 6.2 gas engine handle heavy loads (3500#) as well as towing (12,000#)?

[@natehawkins2910]

15:40 actually, the 2020 6.7 with 3.31 rear end can actually achieve 21mpg. My 19 6.7 can average 19mpg if kept around 62mph. So, those days aren’t quite over yet! Power plus mpg is still in diesel only!

[@ts9271]

It would take you 7 years to make up that 9000 dollar difference if you drove 20000 miles a year. If you got it spend it, but the diesels don't make much financial sense. Who is actually pulling 20000 pounds on the regular?

[@georgecass8529]

Lol good luck pulling anything with those gears

[@atvrepairsandmore2482]

More expensive fuel, have to pay for def, more expensive oil changes. You would have to drive so much to actually make up the cost of better fuel mileage. Then when your CP4 pump goes out that's like 5k, turbo probably 4k, lst goes on and on.

[@atvrepairsandmore2482]

@@georgecass8529 LOL that is what I was thinking

[@natehawkins2910]

Colton Dieringer I’m glad you’re not buying one as it could eventually tip you into bankruptcy by the sounds of things. Mines done just fine so far in its 45,000 miles. I’d never go with a gas engine in a super duty. You probably should at least drive one to understand. I bought a 2020 f150 with the 3.5 ecoboost last week for my around town/extensive idle trips. Best of both worlds that way, owing a 250 diesel and a 150 gasser. Had a 19 Toyota 4Runner a year and put 27,000 miles on it but I was tired of its small interior. Nice to have room and a very quick engine while getting 18+ mpg. But my f250 diesel isn’t far behind that average, at 17.2 lifetime average so far. All quite good in my book. You should drive a 19+ 6.7 diesel and a 7.3 or 6.2 gas then and see why the diesel Is so much more impressive-especially while towing 12,000 lbs or a bit more. There’s just no comparison.

[@duggydo]

You know your stuff. Too bad the other people doing reviews don't know squat! Thanks

[@stanburk7392]

thought about the 7.3 but we're going to be pulling a 15,000 lb trailer constantly so we went with the 6.7. nice to see the big blocks coming back tho. first time i heard ford was making a 7.3 again my mind went diesel?

[@RogerThatImages]

Towing 15,000 on a regular basis, you made the right decision going diesel. I'm looking at the 7.3 because I don't typically tow more than 8-10k.

[@leehancock2782]

Looks like a box of hoses and wires.

[@Nostradamus_Order33]

lee hancock What he said👆

[@robfrmny21]

For a brand new truck the Diesel engine bay looks like a mess

[@sdvten]

The gasser is not much better. Wires and tubes crossing all directions with minimal order. Just a mess under the hood compared to what they used to be. They don't bother wrapping the wiring anymore like they used too. Rodents will have field day with all that shit.

[@Harry-zz2oh]

@@sdvten Rodents love the wiring! Most of the "plastic" wrap is made from a soy based plastic which the rodents love to eat. Farmers and others who park their equipment really have a challenge keeping the darn critters out of the wiring.

[@gen-x-zeke8446]

$9,000? I would easily choose the 7.3. Just seeing how easy that is to change plugs does it for me. Like Old School. Ford nailed this one for sure. Godzilla Gasoline Monster.

[@zackfishle1009]

@The Man They probably said the same thing for the 5.4L

[@blazindrew7125]

I bought a 2017 6.7 new and got rid of it close expired extended warranty. One thing i never hear anyone talk about the ford 6.7 is the fact a lot of engine work requires the body to be lifted off the frame. That is a 8 hour charge to take off and put on before any work has been done. My new 7.3 superduty has been ordered and i wont look back.

[@PhilSowden]

$9,000 can buy you a lot of 87 octane. Can't argue with that!

[@Sir.VicsMasher]

You will get it and more on the back end. Look at the HUGE price difference between 2006 Cummins and Duramax's vs their gasoline counterpart.

[@polarbear5740]

It all come down with what you need the truck for.If you constantly towing 10k + then a diesel if for you.

[@PhilSowden]

@@polarbear5740 Traditionally, yes! But did you check out TFL's test of the 7.3 towing 16K up the Gauntlet? Not bad. kzbin.info/www/bejne/annMg2yardt6grs

[@ryanmartinage]

@@PhilSowden That thing is a hot rod for sure. Hauled ass up the mountain hah. It really is a good motor. If you're not towing big loads long distance constantly, I think it's the winner over the diesels which are so expensive now.

[@ryanmartinage]

@@Sir.VicsMasher With new diesels, I'd take a N/A well serviced 7.3 over a modern diesel with a couple hundred thousand miles. This residual value people speak of will vanish with major services.

[@DillonPrecisionFan]

I know what you mean, but the 6.7 diesel only makes 45 more hp than the 7.3 gas (475 hp vs 430 hp).

[@jarredquinlan187]

my dad told me he used to have a truck where you could stand in the engine bay. I bet he wouldn't mind that 7.3.

[@Robbie64]

I couldn’t imagine trying to work on that 6.7 you’d have to pull the cab for pretty much everything

[@iana36s]

This is why I was always concerned about my previous 6.7. So complicated and easily damaged if your not careful with fuelling and DEF.

[@uttamgala7186]

This video helped me a lot. Thank you so much!!

[@johnmac4769]

EGR Cooler is a pretty easy change out. Had to pull mine at about 100k miles. Just cleaned and reinstalled.

[@Wyoboy7220]

I have no interest in ever buying a newer tuck but if I did it would be the 7.3, my v10 does great now so I'll stick with my gas.

[@thulsa5218]

V10 was the best kept secret around. All the lemmings thought diesel was so great a few years back, nothing but problems and expense..I still laugh at them.

[@albertpintor3522]

Me and my dad have a regular cab 2001 f350 2wd 5 speed manual v10 with a heavy custom welding bed paired with a 96 Lincoln sa250 diesel welder, and the v10 still pulls pretty good despite the extra weight

[@tractorback76]

I don't know if many mention it but the 7.3 version of a crew cab 4x4 350 is 700, yes 700, lbs lighter than the 6.7 diesel version.

[@brianhinrichs3550]

I have a 2022 6.7L Power Stroke turbo diesel. I average 24MPG highway with it, but I can forget the days of doing my own simple work.

[@alexanderdelia8771]

As he pretty much said, it's the price you pay for getting Peterbilt power in a (although huge) pickup. Awesome engine, when under warranty...

[@WolfRaged]

That 7.3 color is very cool. That seems too nice to be painted from the factory but would be sweet if it was.

[@mccortezy]

If you not making money off the diesel, you dont need it. If it a want, more power to you. But that 7.3 is the way to go. I just waiting til the end of the year to get one.

[@brianstough5286]

So, are you buying 87 octane or 93? I heard you say both, but didn't necessarily catch the context... Also, since this does not seem to be an overhead cam engine, is FOMOCO going to stop saying that 'cam in block' engines are "old Technology"?

[@brianstough5286]

good question! Most GM v8 engines do NOT require premium fuel - but I would avoid Ethanol fuels if at all possible. (regardless if it's going in a lawnmower or vehicle engine)

[@theejoeylee]

Just rotate the clamp....

[@carlmason6572]

I had a 7.3 for 613 miles. It was totaled in a house fire. I looked and looked for another like it with no luck within 200 miles. Ended up buying a 6.7 as my rental time had run out.

[@carlmason6572]

@HalfShell Thanks.

[@anthonysgarage]

I can't wait till someone sticks a 7.3 in an F150. It would make a dynamite motor option for the Raptor or the Platinum.

[@yerwrng]

Why would they all the eco-tard guys claim their 3.5 is as capable as the diesels.

[@chrisspeer3257]

@@yerwrng the 3.5 twin turbo is a good motor but once you get 100.000 miles on the clock its time to dump it well its working good this motor is for the weekend Warrior its not going to last pulling heavy loads day in and day out everyday

[@chrisspeer3257]

There a channel here on you tube where they are installing the big 7.3 in an 1989 ford Mustang

[@chrisspeer3257]

The trouble with the 3.5 L EcoBoost twin-turbo if you have to leave it while it's looking good

[@Palacinka17]

Chris Speer the reason why I never pulled the trigger on a 2nd gen raptor and am now looking at one of these.

[@kenthenry2757]

This video really helped me out. I have been struggling between the two engines and that diesel scares me. I often hear how Ford and GMs can need the cabs pulled to work on the engines. Is all that torque worth the risks?

[@SVTPerformance]

Pulling the cab only takes about an hour. It's not a big deal.

[@JohnDiMartino]

@@SVTPerformance for a shop it may not be but without a 2 post lift it sure is.

[@wildcatoutdoors]

I cannot tell you how disappointed i was when i found out the "new 7.3" turned out to be a gas

[@DailyDoseOfAffirmationz]

Also to note they went back to fan clutch on rangers and shown here on the 2020 f250 v8 gas

[@slscamg]

I can’t decide if the Powerstroke is beautifully packaged or a horrible mess.

[@DoodMang7]

Its horrible mess. It looks like it is gonna eat all your savings later down the road

[@skoffco]

My brother has a 2017 6.7 Power stroke that he bought new. He is a hotshot driver as a car hauler. That truck is on the road average of five days a week and has over 162,000 miles on it. Not even a check engine light so far! Can’t argue with that 😛😜

[@cocoloco65482]

Same with mine, 155, 781 miles and no complaints. Maintenance is key. Also dont beat the turbo above 25 -30 psi for too long help to have temps in engine and transmission in check. I'll go at 71 mph all they long. Rams and their nice engines pass me left and right all they long, but then I hear the complaints about spending too often at the shop for their Transmissions.

[@cocoloco65482]

I meant all day long

[@japhethwar]

Can't wait, just ordered my 2020 f350 with a 7.3 gas and 4.30's. The 6.7 is a beast, but i work on them for a living, there is no way on this earth i would buy a new diesel. Ford, Chevy, or Dodge, they all give shit tons of problems and are stupid expensive to repair and maintain. They have amazing power, but are a nightmare to repair. Gonna be burning some gas baby, wooo.

[@dr.blast__2713]

do these things come with warrenty or are u better off not doing warranty?

[@nia6849]

The 6.7L Diesel engine is a nightmare when it is time to repair or maintenance in the future.

[@scottberry5713]

So what gasser is better for RV towing around 8K lbs. the 6.2 or the 7.3? Is the 7.3 worth the extra $2,500?

[@pauldiesel4582]

Really through inspection of the engines. That Power-Stroke engine is insanely complicated and packed in the engine bay!

[@Soulman-je7eg]

We got on with 7.3 Godzilla I guess enough video sent to bosses

[@DieselLes]

Could you imagine a Whipple charged 7.3.............

[@J.Col_]

Boss bought a used 2006 6.0 with fuel injector problems

[@SVT_LIGHTNING]

Love my 2017 6.7L but I get how it can scare some little dudes that are afraid of a little dirt under their finger nails if they have to replace / repair anything. 7.3 is cool no doubt but i'm not lazy and adding def every 6k miles and changing fuel filters every other oil change is not hard at all. And oil changes are a breeze on the 6.7 and cheep being I get my motorcraft oil / filter at Walmart. It's funny how some people want to nickel and dime the 6.7 saying its so expensive to maintain one but it's honestly not bad at all. I pay more for my oil changes in my 2016 mustang gt than i do in my powerstroke and to do a oil change on my mustang is a hell of a lot more work than my 6.7 and is done in the same mileage intervals. Shit doing a oil change or even a spark plug change on my 2000 svt lightning is a hell of a lot more work than anything I have ever done on my 6.7 which is nothing. 6.7 is a great motor if you take care of it and maintain it. But that's the problem with today's society. Mostly everyone is too damn lazy and afraid to do the hard work required to have nice things and rather take the easy way out.