Super Smash Bros for Wii U: The Forgotten Gem

[@ExceedRed]

“When was the last time you thought about Smash 4” Bayo Mains: Everyday, everyday....

[@Ocean25252]

Haha don't forget cloud mains :P

[@golddigginboi2187]

4xm Nuff said

[@Dani-gb4hv]

Why are u calling me out like that..

[@Onlyitsmereid]

Not a Bayo main but I still play the game for a better online

[@brebeaa]

Like the Metaknight Brawl mains of old! 😂

[@wizardkingrgboy1276]

The Completionist: " Super smash bros for wii u: the FORGOTTEN gem." Smash 4 3ds: hold my broken circle pad

[@julianx2rl]

I got a plastic circle pad (Its a single solid piece) And its great! It doesn't get as dirty, and when it does its easier to clean, it has the same rounded shape, so it fits well on the thumb, and its smooth, so its soft to the touch. Rubber may be mandatory for actual analogs, but the circle pad its better off without it.

[@RyuichiNoGekido]

I also broke my circle pad on Smash.

[@CasuaICole]

Hold my broken bumpers, broken 3d mode, missing stylus, and depressed circle pad. Actually don't, something might fall off.

[@theirishpotato6588]

Same. That happened to me while playing as luigi.

[@MadSociety-uy6zg]

@@CasuaICole lmfao damn

[@josuepaulin625]

We can all agree that Mega Mans trailer (whether you were hyped for the character or not) was awesome.

[@JoKeR-hh8rg]

i don’t think anyone expected him

[@mechamobu777]

No

[@Mister100Percent]

Indeed.

[@Sly_Maverick_31]

Dropped my jaw the first time I saw that trailer.

[@tmobile2120]

yeah but no one was expecting cloud to join smash. hell i recall it was a joke in kirbphor's brawl taunts video making the claim of cloud joining smash XD

[@disneyvillainsfan1666]

One of the differences between the trophies in previous Smash Titles and The Spirits in Ultimate is The Descriptions for the Trophies. They tell you a little about about the Characters, Items, and locations that you get Trophies of. Spirits however don't have any information on them. At All.

[@kingofthesharks]

The descriptions were invaluable for me back in the Gamecube days, as the internet was still formative and you couldn't just Wikipedia whatever trophy you got iirc. It even teased Animal Crossing before release since KK Slider was a trophy from a "future release" game.

[@Ocean25252]

Melee and brawl are still the best for trophies :)

[@jackcottle8144]

Spirits just feel like JPGs

[@golddigginboi2187]

@@jackcottle8144 they are

[@DarkRen08-]

@@golddigginboi2187 thats the point of spirits, they simply said: fuck we dont have time for trophies lets make character.png based equipment but with events for each one and make it an excuse for no trophies in the game

[@Monkeyman249]

Completing this game with no golden hammers is one of my proudest gaming moments to date. This game still has a major soft spot in my heart and it makes me a little sad that people have thrown it under the bus since Ultimate. I think Ultimate is definitely better, but it’s sad to see this one forgotten.

[@Seiyol]

I don't really see what's so sad about it. Ultimate is just way better overall and that's a good thing!

[@superkulty64]

I would say one of the few things that Smash 4 excels better at compared to Ultimate (speaking from a competitive standpoint) is the controls and buffer system. Smash 4 actually controls decently well and you can still feel precise with proper timing and inputs. However, bc Ultimate has a huge buffer window, it makes misinputs much more frequent and can lead to actions that you don't want a lot more times than you think. It makes Ultimate very clunky and unresponsive for precise play.

[@ericmay560]

@@superkulty64 I’ve been saying that the combat FEELS better in 4, but I’ve never had a way to describe it.

[@superkulty64]

@@ericmay560 I would agree with you to some degree. The mechanics are arguably better in Ultimate, but at the cost of control due to terrible buffer system, awful c-stick and loss of cool movement options like perfect pivoting. Worse controls makes Ultimate arguably worse than Smash 4 imo.

[@yggdrasilsaltar]

never forget the fact smash 3ds was the superior version due to the fact smash run exists

[@aegisring]

And it was the first way to play smash on the go

[@rileyk5228]

Was meh about smash run but man it was better than what wiiu had

[@bumpsy]

always thought it controlled horribly with the 3DS being the controller. It felt cramped and every small hand movement made the game harder to play. But it definitely was a nice handheld rendition

[@adenhogan8901]

My man

[@Howitchewstofeel5gum]

Never forget that Jirard thought Ultimate was a port of Smash 4 lol

[@Seth22x]

Everyone forgets that home run contest is actually in smash ultimate

[@jakeford1101]

It is

[@golddigginboi2187]

I wish we had break the targets or smash run

[@gokublack9724]

Maybe we'll get break the targets and the ACTUAL All-Star mode once the last dlc update comes

[@captainpep3]

@@gokublack9724 all star mode is good in ultimate

[@danitabori]

@@captainpep3 I like most of the multiman modes, but I hate the Ultimate version of All-star mode. Is it even possbile to finish it? I try it always with the new DLC character but don't have any motivation to complete it. If it would be like in Brawl and smash 4, which is like the arena modes in Kirby games, then I would do it more often. The only good things imo is that we can choose how the stage looks and which music track plays during it but I'd like to go through different levels and different songs.

[@Adriano991b]

We also can't forget how Smash 4 made us all hyped with every Nintendo Direct, with a possible DLC character coming. How can I forget Etika reacting to Cloud coming to Smash. RIP, Etika. Respect.

[@canopro7000]

"The blackest man in gaming, put some RESPECT on his name" -The Completionist

[@chileanyways9075]

um what

[@canopro7000]

@@chileanyways9075 I agree

[@trueblueryu5713]

Wii U version: Currently hated 3DS Version: “Wait, that actually did exist?”

[@lordkaijux5262]

I think the latter can be said for both versions since Ultimate pretty much made the Wii U game obsolete.

[@SlimeBlueMS]

Literally the reason I got a Switc, totally made U obsolete lol

[@theirishpotato6588]

I've only had the 3ds one. F.

[@oranjolt]

It had smash run and better stages then WII U. That's all you need to know.

[@thatclipmakerguy9959]

Seeing someone play the Wii U in 2021 makes me feel happy

[@Demopugz]

I miss nintendo land

[@thatclipmakerguy9959]

@@Demopugz hopefully that makes the jump to the Switch as well

[@Helix-2632]

@@Demopugz Nintendo land brings back so many memories

[@jakethegamer3974]

I still use mine

[@BlurryGhost]

It's definitely underrated console. Just bought mine back in January. Love the system. Too bad it didn't get the shine it deserves.

[@GraemeStanfordWilson]

Home Run mode IS in Ultimate.

[@Grassdewd]

It wasn’t at launch ;)

[@SD-uw7zu]

@@Grassdewd but it’s still there

[@finaldusk1821]

I fondly remember completing the 3DS version to 100%, even clearing every mode at max difficulty with every character (DLC excluded). That game took well over a hundred hours of my life away; no regrets! Completing Smash 4 so many times over is no easy feat Jirard, I salute your immortal perseverance!

[@Shaunmizer]

He's right this is a gem i really miss those special missions and customizable moves you can give to characters ah good times

[@ToyKeeper]

I miss the custom moves too. They should have expanded it in Ultimate instead of getting rid of it.

[@latlequin1]

@@ToyKeeper The reason there were no custom moves in ultimate (besides miis) was because there were a ton of characters, making it just unrealistic to create custom moves for all of them.

[@Shaunmizer]

@@latlequin1 yea you got a point but if it was realistic imagine how certain characters would benefit from it

[@jjsix6943]

@@Shaunmizer yes but I went to a competitive tournament with custom moves and people just spammed them and won donkey Kong in particular

[@zephyr7237]

ofc, every Smash game is a gem.

[@CyberLocky]

smash bros ultimate getting rid of trophies was the ultimate sin imagine how many cool trophies from a wide variety of videogames we would have had

[@EWOODJ]

That's the compromise for adding everyone under a time limit.

[@hectormontes7056]

I don’t think as much, each trophies require modeling and approval for not only how the model looks but also what the description says, as well as what games they can put at the bottom. I think the spirits allow them to add a bunch of cool characters to the game more easily, I mean it is just a jpg

[@ogpandamonium]

I quite like spirits. But i really wish they kept descriptions maybe they could do just one-sentence deacriptions.

[@theincredibledrl9684]

There are no trophies in lego games cyberlock, but there still great

[@ogpandamonium]

@@theincredibledrl9684 they weren't talking about lego

[@okanut]

It has been a while. This was such a big deal when it came out.

[@ZiggityZeke]

I really miss the custom special moves from 4... Megaman's in particular were so fucking cool. I actually farmed out most of them on both 3DS and Wii U

[@ToyKeeper]

I miss the custom moves too. Farming them was a pain, but they otherwise did a great job of keeping the game interesting. Was hoping they'd keep the feature in Ultimate and allow it online, but instead they dropped it entirely.

[@buchiklop110]

Custom Moves would have been far more well received if you couldn't get repeats. Why they decided to allow repeats is beyond me.

[@thepastaprogenitor851]

Anyone remember link's stronger arrows that killed at like 60 or dr. Mario's super cyclone that made his down B actually good at killing and recovering?

[@Ansemthewise59]

I always loved the more outrageous moves like Link's giant bombs or Donkey Kong's wind vortex punch! So much fun!

[@gamermanzeake]

The homerun contest is in Smash Ultimate. It was an update near a year ago. So that information is dated in this video. Check it out! It's a pretty great rendition of the mode!

[@danitabori]

I don't like that mode at all but I was surprised how he kept showing it in the video when he was talking about things missing in Ultimate lol Anyway, I would've liked to have any of the past modes come back isntead of the homerun contest. I didn't like it Brawl and in Smash 3DS and don't care for it in Ultimate either. Boss battle mode would've been much more exciting especially with all the awesome bosses un ultimate. I would've even liked the rest of the multi man modes returning from Smash 4.

[@ppleakage2785]

The 3DS version is better for one sole reason: Smash Run

[@golddigginboi2187]

And better portability

[@RainingMetal]

Fuckin' hated Smash Tour. Certainly put more hours in the 3DS game.

[@theirishpotato6588]

I agree.

[@luigigx1172]

I just started playing than I found this comment

[@Jay-ji6ng]

I really wish they reused assets from smash run when making world of light.

[@scarffoxandfriends9401]

I like how the description says the 3ds version is basically the same game despite what Sakurai says, even though they have completely different game modes. Classic mode is different between the two games, a good percentage of the Achievements in 3ds version are exclusive to that version as well. Not to mention a different Stage list, which isn't going to come up when your only goal is to complete the games. I honestly like the 3ds stages better than the WiiU stages. But in all seriousness, the reason Sakurai says 3ds is a different game is because they had to make it from scratch separately from the WiiU version. For most of the content they could just take the WiiU version and just downgrade. So both versions essentially got a full game development.

[@ppleakage2785]

Smash 4 player: gets good competitively Bayonetta players: You dare challenge me mortal?

[@captainmega6310]

Luckily she got nerfed in Ultimate. Some say too nerfed but ehh...

[@FurryBayo]

@@captainmega6310 she did get nerfed too much. Now she needs buffs.

[@plushboat]

I wouldn’t say forgotten, more like, banished.

[@MantaKizaemonFTW]

Shadow realm

[@Ulazcruz]

As it should

[@lordkaijux5262]

I'd say overshadowed.

[@cornpop2630]

Ultimate just played and felt better in every way. There's something about WiiU and the movement in that game that just felt awkward.

[@theirishpotato6588]

@@Ulazcruz no

[@ethan7725]

I’ve been watching this channel for only a couple months now, and I can already say it is one of my favorite ever. Thank you so much for every episode, and all the time you put into them.

[@montanawhisler1066]

I can't believe that I just got nostalgia from the damn Wii U menu music

[@giygas9305]

Nice pfp

[@christianmartinez774]

I have fond memories of Smash 4. The bosses in classic mode were pretty awesome

[@EBlade3529]

Jirad: "Smash for Wii U: The forgotten gem." Smash for 3ds: "Am i a joke to you?"

[@oromain]

good god I never thought I'd be nostalgic for the Wii U UI

[@charlieduffy5997]

Yeah the Switch UI is kinda bland in comparison.

[@diegone080]

yeah switch UI is souless

[@NeverSaySandwich1]

Back when it had SOUL

[@duckerton14]

Switch UI feels like a blank piece of paper.

[@MaestroMagnifico21]

"Smash Wii U: The forgotten gem" . Everyone always forget about the 3ds version because it isnt HD like its Wii U counterpart. in my opinion the 3ds version was more fun to play then the Wii U version, i even still play it from time to time to this day i almost never play Smash for Wii U these days. Never Forget Smash 3ds forever.

[@mekk-knightsarecool222]

They replaced smash run with a shitty board game, it was tragic lol

[@deco7217]

@@mekk-knightsarecool222 At least classic mode was good.

[@BunnyChamberX]

Smash Run carried that version. Its the better solo experience.

[@janusiers]

I have the 3ds version in my catalog

[@kingofthesharks]

I never owned a Wii U but I sometimes forget I actually own Smash 4....via the 3DS game. Naturally, it's the only Smash game where I have more 1-player hours with than multiplayer.

[@darkknight11311]

Man, I miss trophies

[@lordkaijux5262]

Before Super Smash Bros. Ultimate was released in December 2018 I've kept hearing the main theme of that game countless times I completely forgot what Super Smash Bros. for Wii U's theme sounded like.

[@thedapperdolphin1590]

Ultimate may have made this game irrelevant in many ways, but I’ll always have a fondness for it. This was THE game during my college years. It was first revealed the summer before my freshman year, and I enjoyed the reveals up until it was released my sophomore year, and beyond with DLC. I have a lot of great memories playing this with friends. We liked to hold tournaments together, and the time we spent involved some of the happiest memories from that point of my life. Plus, college is a great time for Smash since so many people wanted to play. Was easy to find a match.

[@samijudj]

Smash 4, Wind Waker HD and 3D World are still the only reason that I dust off my Wii U today, I’ll never forget them.

[@ThatRandomFastingGuy]

The WiiU with Nintendon't is amazing. Highly recommend.

[@taffypool654]

That and the still active Virtual Console, and the backwards compatibility with the Wii. Oh, and loading all Wii eshop downloads to it. And the many, many, many amazing games. WiiU for life!

[@cicabeot1]

As far as I’m concerned, Smash 4 was the birth of modern Smash. It’s hard for me to go back to the first three games, but Smash 4 and Ultimate feel just right. And the Wii U version’s classic mode is the best in the series.

[@bluekirby64]

Brawl was the first Super Smash Bros game I played but Super Smash Bros for Wii U was the First Smash game where I actually tried to get good at the game and try to fight characters on harder difficulties so it still holds a soft spot for me

[@baneenab]

Shoutout to everyone who still plays this game

[@ikennasmash1030]

ty

[@BitchChill]

So like 2 people?

[@diggsj0536]

Sup. Take care

[@disneyvillainsfan1666]

As one of the very few people who actually got a Wii U, This was my first Smash Bros game, and along with 3D World, it helped me get into Nintendo and Video Games.

[@Akirex5000]

“Super Smash Bros Wii U: The forgotten gem” Super Smash Bros Brawl: “Am I a joke to you?”

[@jadenmamangon9016]

A lot of people remember and love Brawl for Subspace Emmisary and introducing third parties . Smash 4 was thrown to the wayside for Ultimate.

[@diegone080]

nope, everybody loves brawl Stop acting like wii is forgotten, it isn't

[@PeruvianPotato]

@@diegone080 Competitive fanbase dislikes Brawl for some reason

[@vDeadbolt]

Brawl is still getting mods even after Project M's development shut down.

[@skeletonwar4445]

@@PeruvianPotato "some reason" It's trips and allowing for endless grabs with a bunch of characters. As well as Meta Knight.

[@HDGamerofficial]

Honestly, I think of smash 4 kinda frequently. It was the smash that got me more into competitive, it was the origin of the epic trailers, DLC and those EPIC “Master” boss fights are one of my favourite parts of the game. Those hype final smash trophies are worth collecting for me because they’re just so epic and I absolutely LOVE some of the custom moves (collecting those was always a pain due to rng tho) in the end, Smash 4 made Ultimate possible and for that, I am truly grateful 😌 Also Jirard, every time you mentioned “features that aren’t in ultimate” you showed a clip of home run contest which was added in ultimate in a patch after the game came out

[@rakku4004]

I loved the custom moves it was honestly a ton of fun

[@ToyKeeper]

+1 ... was a great way to keep the game interesting. I miss it.

[@rogerdonovan1759]

I bought my wii U in 2015 with this game. It was such a difficult time in my life and this game brought me such joy. That and your content pulled me through. Thank you again Mr Completionist!

[@Parmandur]

My kids still play this on occasion: they like the contrast with Ultimate, and the bright colors.

[@Burrito-m1q]

I used to play this on the bus to school with a friend forever ago, really great times with this game for real!

[@cashordeals3672]

Forgetting? Smash 4 had some of the hypest reveals dlc and the main reason i bought the wiiu besides more fun game's were coming to the wiiu

[@ValthorEldr]

I love the set up you did for the episode, with the implied "dusting off" of the Wii U. XD Very clever

[@mavsfan924]

I played this game to death the until I got a switch this Christmas.

[@ivantheturtle3701]

Same. Even when I did get a switch I still played it until I got ultimate

[@Jabutimado]

i always play this game i don't have a switch

[@PokemonMaster7068]

My best friend and I played the hell out of Smash for 3DS. We were able to bring our 3DS's to school and play Smash Run and customizing our characters' stats and moves were a breath of fresh air.

[@HeftyDan]

I'm so sad everyone hates this one. I've played all the Smash games to date and I've gotta say that Wii U is my favorite, if I could bring a couple of stages, Byleth, the Belmonts, and directional air dodging I probably wouldn't go back to Ultimate.

[@blueblurz9498]

Smash 4 Wii U was BY FAR my most played game on the system. Over 650 hours. Next most played was Mario Kart 8 at 170. College sure gave me a lot of free time to play this and I enjoyed pretty much every second. I haven’t touched Smash 4 since ultimate released but I remember it very fondly. Probably still my favorite Wii U game and this actually makes me want to go back and play it again for nostalgia’s sake

[@SwiggyKong]

Ok not gonna lie, was NOT expecting this on my Saturday morning. It looks so slow, Jesus.

[@jac_238]

How is it Saturday morning for you? If you’re in another time zone, then it would be Sunday morning

[@victoriousf.i.g.3311]

@@jac_238 "If you were in another time zone, it would be Sunday morning" Yo, I love how smug you were when saying the most ridiculous shit 🤣🤣🤣

[@SwiggyKong]

@@jac_238 I always find the most interesting people with the most interesting of interest in the KZbin comment section.

[@jac_238]

Victorious F.I.G. What’s ridiculous about it? I live on the east coast US and it’s Saturday evening already, so any place where it’s morning, it would be Sunday now

[@victoriousf.i.g.3311]

@@SwiggyKong How do you have interests? Glib mark hardcopy giant tincture Regis Philbin. I was seeing if I could be as confident as *Therock* when I spouted nonsense 🤣

[@trident042]

I love many of the modes in Sm4sh, both the U and 3DS editions, and would love if after all the Fighters' Pass additions, maybe the Ultimate team might consider porting some old modes to the new hotness. Who wouldn't love an Ultimate, online multiplayer Smash Run? A couch-co-op Smash board game whose name escapes me? A fresh take on Subspace Emissary? New battles with other boss monsters like Tabuu and the big shadow monster-turned-fortress guy? There's a lot we don't have in Ultimate despite it being.... Ultimate.

[@BoyWolfiee]

I didn't forget this game... at least, I hope I won't forget this game...

[@Nickk7878-v8t]

The events in Smash 4 are better than Smash Ultimate’s Spirits.

[@emojifr...]

ive been obsessed with mega man my whole life and when i saw the smash reveal i literally screamed so loud my mom grounded me

[@finalsmash9607]

I prefer X, if it was zero at least i would’ve screamed too

[@TheKingOfAllHorror]

I'd have grounded you too.

[@BJGvideos]

Why would she ground you for that? That's dumb.

[@TheSquirrelAssassin]

@@finalsmash9607 same, i started with the zero series so that design will always be my favorite but the og zero with a alternate skin would be my number one most wanted character

[@hasbullamagomedov4295]

Ah Smash 4. I’ll never forget seeing someone try to enter their Marth amiibo, aptly named Roy in a tournament I was at and it was beating actual contestants in friendlies. Made for a hilarious memory

[@ChristochatBTW]

Let's be honest smash tour was a lot better than 80% of people thought

[@willycheez7218]

Yeah, so fun with friends

[@joshuagrahambrown]

This is one of the episodes of New Game Plus that I genuinely thought we’d never get, due to the sheer amount of both Challenges & Trophies. I appreciate your dedication as always Jirard!

[@victorg.2816]

Also SB Wii U's online was FAR more enjoyable than Ultimate's.

[@AtlasKP]

There the exact same people think it's different only cause ultimates faster and requires faster inputs

[@captainmega6310]

Really? I had a hard time with both,but ultimate was very much preferred

[@letssaveourplanet5738]

Yes because you can use different characters with the same player

[@Ansemthewise59]

Nah, Wii U's online is better. They had it right with "For Fun" and "For Glory". Nothing is more annoying than wanting a 1v1 on FD and getting a 4 player free-for-all with items. Also in Smash 4 you can fight CPU's with a friend online! Try doing that in Smash Ultimate.

[@captainmega6310]

@@Ansemthewise59 never happened to me since the first time i got the game. It should be better though

[@Silentj04]

All Star mode was a homage to Kirby Super Star as both series were created by Sakurai along with many many other hidden themes and homages. Like how Master Hand is also another Kirby reference

[@Kthanksby3]

The music choices for this video is top tier

[@MrGameAndToy]

As a smasher, I mostly remember this game for its jank. There’s so many occurrences of moves killing off the top at like 10%, and ladder combos off of platforms that just kind of kill you. Ultimate toned back the jank a ton (but also introduces some other issues like the poorly implemented buffer system). Melee’s got a ton of jank as well, but it usually doesn’t look super janky when it happens. This game just has a bunch of stuff that works but doesn’t look like it should, and weird interactions.

[@bruhwong8565]

He says when was the last time you thought of smash 4. Me I legit talked about it yesterday because of how all wii U games are basically on switch and there is literally no reason to buy a wii u but smash 4

[@NintenDub]

There are reasons

[@HerdULiekManwichs]

Wind Waker HD for now...

[@avenged-khaos]

xenoblade chronicles x is the only reason i have one

[@paulmoore5392]

Honestly, I still use my Wii U to play a lot of Nintendo’s classic titles since Nintendo didn’t just drop the ball with releasing classic titles on Switch, they buried that ball 6 feet under. I’ve recently been playing a lot of Earthbound on it.

[@coreymyers5321]

First 10 seconds: Coughing at dust blown off old console. And I laughed for 5 minutes because that happens all the time when I bring out the Wii U.

[@dominica.3275]

Friendly reminder that the Wii U actually had some great games (games that tons have applauded when ported to switch 👀)

[@Adriano991b]

Yeah, but it's more probably because very few people had the chance to enjoy those games, so it was reasonable to have them ported to Switch

[@MrGhosta5]

bayonetta 2 was what pushed me to finally get a wii u. smash 4 3ds and smash 4 wii u have completely different trophies and music selection. the 3ds version has more music and trophies from handheld games and smash 4 has more music and trophies from console games. i miss trophies especially the final smash trophies for beating all star mode.

[@parkwayninja41]

Jirard: When was the last time you thought about smash 4 Me: As a Cloud main, I think about smash 4 an unhealthy amount.

[@thosediamonddreams]

Once again Lazy Jirard doesn't do the 3DS version...just kidding. I've made comments very critical of this channel's videos before (and try to say exactly what I think could be improved so it's not perceived as mean-spirited) but skipping the 3DS version this time was a good idea and I'm glad you didn't do that to yourself. That said I think you did a great job explaining how Smash for Wii U did enough to have still forged its own identity, now years after Smash Ultimate. I think this is one of your best videos and you should be proud of the work you put into it. I really enjoyed the nostalgia trip of that Wii U cold open as well.

[@KillerGir1]

Smash on the wiiu was the definitive edition of the two I ended up playing way more of the 3ds for one reason. Smash run. It felt like a new version of city trials from kirby air ride, a forgotten gem on the gamecube. But it was the 3ds for smash so I do understand why people weren't happy with that. I wish they brought it back like the way it was

[@kevinharding3281]

This game holds a special place in my heart. My brother and I would play this together all the time and i have many many replays of us together. He took his life in 2019 but thanks to this games replay features i can view his ass whoopings anytime.

[@kingofthesharks]

10:16 The Event matches mode were originally from Melee, and were the highlight of that game's 1-player stuff for me. Finally beating "The Showdown" with Giga Bowser, Ganondorf, and Mewtwo was an incredible feeling as a kid.

[@jordanhingoo7017]

I really miss the trophy room. After years and years I finally completed the room. It was the most satisfying thing I’ve ever done.

[@BiGGMiXX340]

Truth is that this game got pulled too far into the scrutiny that is the competitive smash community.

[@mariowiiluigi1919]

I beg your pardon?

[@Grassdewd]

Facts, toxic competitive mindsets have tarnished this and Brawl’s name

[@mariowiiluigi1919]

@@Grassdewd Ohhh that's what he means! Kinda true then, I think the only clear identity was been the best online smash thanks to For glory. The problem is, in order to play online, you need people to play too, and since Ult have pretty much has all the popularity well......his only identity now it can't be used, or as big as it used to. As for Brawl, maybe it is considered the black sheep competitively, but at least has the subspace.

[@SMABSYSTEMS]

Finally A POPULAR KZbinr sees the gem in SSB4. I still play it today since I haven't a Switch yet XD

[@TigerHawk709]

I liked the custom moves, and wished they had returned. I also enjoy the Amiibo aspect in that, as someone who doesn't play against others often, it's nice to have a computer that is capable of surpassing your base abilities and allows you to get better without online functionality

[@ToyKeeper]

I liked the custom moves too, and am sad that they removed the feature instead of making it more universal. Would also have liked to see the amiibo FP feature expanded, so people could have FP characters without having to own the physical amiibos. It added a huge element to the game, but people mostly couldn't use it because it was locked behind an expensive and inconvenient hardware dongle system.

[@OphilliaBalls]

I forgot I bought a Wii U just for smash, this video reminded me

[@emeraldgiss]

I would say that untill you remember rage and Bayonetta.

[@JACBRG]

Smash 4 was one of the best games made by nintendo, the game shaped me as a person and it’s a game I’ll never forget

[@cosmicXtropics]

I was thinking of smash 4 the other day. How I almost mastered the entire roster but now barely play half in Ultimate.

[@blazikine]

What I really enjoyed with Smash 4 was how you could look at all the trophies lined up together whether it was in the trophy board or the big display. Really wished they had that in ultimate

[@TSMSnation]

It's ironic that he likes the classic mode when everyone hates it.

[@NintendoGamingCentral]

The one thing I hate about Classic Mode is the ridiculously difficult Master Core at max difficulty. It's impossible. I still haven't beaten it and gotten that achievement..

[@MAMZYY_YT]

I liked the classic mode in smash 4 (wii u) too to be honest

[@willycheez7218]

Classic mode was super fun. Loved the challenge, 9.0 was so hard

[@multilegolover]

Using the Wii U menu as a means for transitions is such a cool idea :O Man how am I already so nostalgic for that lol

[@vidego]

I haven't watched the video yet, but just by reading the title, I can say that I didn't forget Smash 4. I still play it because it has better online than ultimate. The match making is better and the lag is just as bad, but the online is free, so it gets a pass

[@DarkRen08-]

i replayed smash 4. all i can say is that just like alpharad, i tried to do ultimate thing because it was what i was familiar with

[@SuperBroAlex]

I completely agree that this game deserves to be remembered. While I have been playing Super Smash Bros ever since Melee and Brawl, this game is what truly grew my passion for Smash Bros as a whole. It's what got me excited to watch Nintendo Directs too! Both this and Smash 3DS gave me the best memories from 2014-2016! Also, you gotta give this game credit for being for the most part, welcoming to the newcomers. This time the roster felt a lot more balanced to the point where almost any character had the potential to take on anyone. And this Smash Bros in particular actually felt fun for the most part! Flowed well, ran well, and controlled just fine! Smash 3DS/Wii U may be dominated by its predecessor, Super Smash Bros Ultimate, but I will forever cherish those moments from Smash Wii U. And the game didn't really die. Excluding that incident at EVO with the two Bayonetta players, the game as a whole was just kind of... left to rot. You can disagree with me all you want, but Bayonetta isn't what killed the game. We cannot let things such as this affect the overall impact the game had on us. It's just the fact that, after the final presentation and final update for Smash 4, Sakurai and his team just discontinued making patches and updates sooner than later, completely leaving it behind. Its heyday is over, but the memories and the impact it had will live on.

[@datalphalion]

Smash 4, AKA the one where people started complaining about “too many Fire Emblem characters.”

[@retrozaid1600]

I blame Corrin

[@Error-zj7ln]

which then evolved into Ultimate as "Too many anime swordspeople"

[@ggs27]

I think that the Schafrillas Productions video explains well

[@ghost245353]

It's even worse when many of those people complaining don't play fire emblem

[@HunterForHire422]

Every person who makes a wiiu video starts off with a blowing away dust joke

[@sacramentum8802]

Me who just rewatched the scott the woz episode on smash bros 4 3ds and wii u

[@slcool1499]

Good taste

[@TheMack625]

I haven't watched much of your videos, but am pleasantly surprised that a big-name KZbinr is giving Smash 4 some love! You see, I maintained a huge love of SSB4 since release. I am attracted to its colorful aesthetic, variety of modes, trophy text, and even the giant starting roster. Outside of the N64 game, Super Smash Bros. games have never been ones I have completed 100%. Instead, I simply focus on unlocking every fighter, stage, song, and fighter trophy. With Smash 4, I have enjoyed doing all of that. This is one of the few times where I didn't hear any ripping on Classic Mode. I have always found the Wii U version of it enjoyable. Granted, I typically just fight Master Edges and Master Shadow. I like the option of choosing what match you partake in. As for the modes, I find almost every one fun. All-Star is the best in the series IMO, Smash Tour is something that I get a kick out of doing, I like the types of battles done in Special Orders, and things like the Home-Run Contest, Target Blast, Trophy Rush and Multi-Man Smash are cute time sinks. Again, let me clarify that I am _not_ a completionist. No, I simply play Smash just for basic amusement. Both Wii U and 3DS comprise my favorite game in the series. Great video!

[@breadbybread]

*"When was the last time you even thought about Smash 4?"* uhhh yesterdayyyy

[@CucasNerdyCorner]

I'm just very disappointed and mad at times that trophies didn't come back in smash ultimate. That was my favourite part of playing smash games. Collecting those virtual figurines and reading all the information too.

[@shiftfire4511]

Not really forgotten as much as overshadowed. Between the technically impressive 3DS release, with modes like Smash Run and having better overall stages, and the absolutely massive Ultimate including every character, almost every stage, thousands of songs, and further polishing the gameplay, it's easily overlooked. Especially on Nintendo's worst selling home console

[@captainmega6310]

I would say it's a bit of both

[@Itsumi456]

I played this for hours on end on 3DS. Like damn I was 14 and after mainly playing melee and brawl growing up getting that at Christmas was massive. I absolutely loved it and the DLC only made things better. This era of smash was when I got into that hype phase along with the KZbinrs that came with that. The reactions, directs, new characters, online betting on fights. Stupidly fun and pretty nostalgic tbh.

[@DravenRoth1435]

This one was good, but I found myself playing the 3DS version more often because of Smash Run. My wifi was terrible too, so I never got to play online.

[@massdefection]

This one was one heck of a journey on Twitch for you haha. Hope you're having a good time dude. Can't wait for that 400!

[@Flintofmother]

"Smash 4 classic mode was dope!" The completionist, more like "The Contrairist"

[@papersonic9941]

The 3DS one was decent, though

[@Lucky2000Zx]

What a well done video I also agree with the fact that singleplayer content is done better in Smash 3DS/Wii U. Ultimate is better for sure, but there’s also some things that it’s previous installment did better too. You also make some interesting points about things like classic mode and the extra stuff. Like some people have said already I played this game a lot from 2014-2016 when I was finishing middle school to the earlier years of high school

[@AmselOwl]

I was literally playing sm4sh as you released this.

[@Sjono]

Never forget the Miiverse stage, Pac-Maze, Rainbow Road, Woolly World, Pyrosphere, Jungle Hijinx, & Orbital Gate Assault

[@MAMZYY_YT]

I put 500 hours into this game during my 1st year of college back in 2015. Good times 😂

[@julianx2rl]

I put about the same amount, and then did the same on the next year, rounding up to a 1000 hours... maybe I should've taken that time to play other games tho.

[@MAMZYY_YT]

@@julianx2rl same, I could’ve actually beaten captain toads treasure tracker & played more of zelda: wind Waker HD if I wasn’t so addicted to smash during that year 🗿

[@robbycooper6787]

Why are the top 5 rows of the challenge board either a strict time limit, a brutally hard thing or something that will take way to long or a combination or 2 of those things

[@williepchamp3060]

This is my favorite Smash game, hands down. I know Ultimate is better, but I just love this game. I have so many memories of this game. It's quite possibly one of my favorite games. Also, I love the Wii U. It had such good exclusives, and rivals the Switch in my opinion.

[@toph6661]

16:40 YESSSS! Bring back the individualised target levels. Those levels were my obsession back in 2000, took my so long to figure out each target for link, but that retrospectively was a great training experience!