Super Best Friends Play Detroit: Become Human (Part 1)

[@SkyFeline]

The collective loss of shit when they realize that it really is a David Cage game at the "back of the bus" moment was amazing.

[@flightgravity7483]

Sky Icewind That moment featured all of their patented reactions to David Cage games. Pat gets uncomfortable and bursts into laughter, Woolie does a big sigh, and Matt starts screaming “ITS SO BAD!”

[@Aboveup]

That woman yelling "GO BACK WHERE YOU CAME FROM!" at the black robot though. That is so far on the nose about the themes that it doesn't even work for the setting.

[@niney5405]

It's so far on the nose that it encompasses the entire front of the head in blackface.

[@implodinghippo]

Yea, that made no sense. I wondered if, in world they meant that he should go back to the factory?

[@TherealbigO1]

Just you wait till the brothel.

[@Aboveup]

The... brothel... oh no

[@niney5405]

I swear to god the guy's corpse in the brothel looks JUST like Pat. I hope they agree. It's fucking jarring.

[@ToastKnight_]

Androids are at the back of the bus. David Cage: "DO YOU GET IT YET?!"

[@datonkallandor8687]

The Androids wearing armbands and triangles on their chest. David Cage: "DO YO UGET IT YET?!"

[@karda009]

totally not about slavery and racism tho

[@murciadoxial8056]

Androids are in the back of hte bus, they are standing up, the chapter is called shade of colors, the bit in the flowchart is called marcus rides the bus... subtlety is an illusion, just like death

[@yakumoyomi5765]

The androids should have been the bus itself. ...or rickshaw drivers.

[@kerseykerman7307]

I dont get it. I think i need more clues.

[@TheQuyman]

40% unemployment? I don't think anyone truly understands how fuck that is. During the Great Depression unemployment was at 20%

[@thepickles8833]

David Cage: _"my Depression is Greater than yours"_

[@theoneandonlymichaelmccormick]

TheQuyman But it’s, like, the FUUUUUTURE, man!

[@coralcomet]

How is there any economy left?! The Nazis came to power in a society with 30% unemployment! That guy absolutely cannot afford an android. Hell he probably can't afford the beer he's drinking. No bank would OK his credit application! I'm having some issues suspending my disbelief obviously..... :/

[@TravisBroski]

And population was WAY SMALLER back then. Imagine how many people live in America in the future?

[@badercriss]

Obviously, Mr cage doesn't do his own taxes.

[@Hakkai181]

An android with a distinctive band on the right arm gets on the back on the bus, apart from normal people. WHAT DOES IT POSSIBLY MEAN? THIS SUBTLETY IS AMAZING!!!

[@Eidlones]

Hakkai181 Implying its trying to be subtle.

[@bonebard6178]

honestly though its a good system if they are taking the same bus as humans, why would un thinking machines care where they are

[@Hakkai181]

Because the framing is so blatant and in the face, even more after Cage said that the game wasn't about race. In just a few minutes we se blatant references to the nazi branding of jews, racism, and "the opressed" go on the back of the bus which is one of the most recognizable acts of racism in north america. It's so obvious that is hilarious. They didn't even try.

[@igelfullmetal1307]

superLuigi675 wouldn't putting the androids under the seats or in compartments on the roof make more sense in universe?

[@tatianadashkova2143]

Bone Bard wouldn’t the roof or under the bus be more effective?

[@LittleVMills]

Ah, you where at my side all along. My true mentor. My Big Sadness.

[@mindshuffler3332]

David, the Unholy Cage

[@rusvanko8732]

Mindshuffler 333 screaming choir intensifies

[@mastermarkus5307]

Ludwig references warm my heart.

[@rusvanko8732]

Ludwig references warms my berserk horse cock

[@mocca3633]

The sadness Butterfly.

[@michaelmaguire4147]

"Are we experienced?" You guys are probably the most experienced when it comes to suffering in the cage-o-verse

[@zomboids2100]

Michael Maguire The zaibatsu suffered for our gaming sins.

[@JackPoppy]

But have they ever been Experienced?

[@zomboids2100]

Jack PoppyBro They are the experience. *gold requiem experience*

[@jiin6]

the six sets of eyes have seen of their "experience"

[@SeikOsito]

Experience in Cage, but as for games, it hurts at times

[@buffypython]

The biggest problem with using androids as a metaphor for black people is it presumes there is an at least initially logical reason to be racist. Androids certainly don't start out sapient or having emotions, so when they start causing unemployment or are put in situations where they could kill a human, it's logical to worry or even hate them. It makes sense to say "I hate androids! They're things that take jobs away from humans trying to feed their families." But, obviously, black people (or insert other PoC here) are also people. They aren't artificial machines designed with corporate greed in mind, and they also have families to feed, so it isn't logical to fear or hate them. It's false equivalence and frankly a little worrying that Cage is saying racism starts with logical concerns when it really doesn't.

[@dynostretch9215]

You nailed it. the story is so brazen with it's civil rights movement metaphor, it breaks down and it confuses the message it's trying to say, assuming it's trying to say anything other then "slavery is bad". It can also create a lot of unintended and disturbing implications about Cage's mindset that, in loo of the recent scandals about Quantic Dream being a toxic work environment with accusations of harassment against women, races and sexual preferences, kinda makes it easy to make these assumptions about him.

[@Knoloaify]

The weirdest thing is the slave / robot metaphor. The issue with slavery (that is still practiced today) is dehumanization, because you're forcing a human being with his own feelings and opinions into servitude. Meanwhile the robot is *designed* for servitude. It's not forced, it's litterally it's reason to exist. That's why I never buy those "robot have a nervous breakdown and turn on it's masters" scenarios, they make absolutely no sense. A robot that doesn't emulate emotions wouldn't have nervous breakdowns in the first place, and if it did emulate emotions then simply program it to *enjoy* servitude and find disposal completely normal, there you go : no hostage crisis. Nier Automata even had some nice snippets about that, with YorHa androids having their pleasure nerves activating during combat to encourage them to fight, *spoilers* Devola and Popola being reprogrammed to feel guilt because of what another couple of the same model did and acting on that guilt by later sacrificing themselves, 9S and A2 talking about how they long for the touch of their human masters even though they are gone, because they are programmed to feel that and act on those feelings.

[@dougdynamo9398]

Couldn't this be applied to most android stories and not just Detroit? When does the false equivalency stop?

[@Knoloaify]

+Jon Henry Not really, all android stories don't necessarily make that link between racism and robots. And Detroit is the only one I've seen that is so unsubtle and blatant about it (I mean come on, the back of the bus thing). But yeah it's a trope used in a lot of works that I would like to be used less. "LOTS OF PEOPLE DO IT" isn't an excuse that shields ones work from criticism on that regard.

[@dougdynamo9398]

Knoloaify Oh I know; I'm not trying to defend this game from deserved criticism. The one thing this game has done, whether you want to give it this merit, is that it's getting people talking and really analysing this thing.

[@bondjames8225]

This game takes 5 minutes for you to be called "One of them" 15 minutes for you to be bought in a market. 25 minutes for the words "They are stealing OUR jobs" to be uttered. And half an hour for you to sit in the back of the bus. You know if there is one thing i appreciate about Cage, its his Subtlety.

[@bondjames8225]

And then STRAIGHT in to the domestic abuse analog where the battered housewife runs away and is brought back to her life of being lorded over by a "Get me a beer" asshole husband and taking care of a scared child. Can we get five minutes between being punched in the face with the heavy handedness?

[@Bomx17]

I mean, to be fair the 3 characters are kinda "special" in their story, what i mean is that they don't have boring lives which is kinda good, i personally felt like this game is far from the worst David Cage game, and that the lack of subtelty is usefull because it makes the stories pick up really fast, you don't waste too much time in Todd's house, same for the other 2 stories. Right now i have yet to see the end of the game, i'm watching the LP's as they come out, but i really am drawn into the world of the game, the whole world is visually pleasing while still feeling serious. I'm not saying that Cage didn't do his usual cliches and incoherence (he absolutely did, if you continued in Kara's story you know what i'm talking about) but i think it's really not bothering me atm. That said, i always was drawn to futuristic fiction and i love the clean look of Detroit and Deus Ex (since HR), so i may be biased a bit

[@Bomx17]

I mean, i don't think he even went for subtelty about this, your characters litteraly have ANDROID written on their back and chest. Maybe he wanted to focus on some other message with the game?

[@ClasticOne]

And the "Pre-owned" model in the store is black.

[@LegallyBlindGaming727]

Holy shit lol

[@billpeel4408]

The dead cop's name is Deckart. As in Deckard. Couldn't even wait 10 minutes before throwing in the first Blade Runner reference.

[@kingfail3819]

Did we seriously get the Shitty Blade Runner Reference that fast?! We're on track for a blackout at this rate!

[@sigma5182]

rest in peace, space sleuth

[@murciadoxial8056]

B N G O ... FOUR LETTERS! We are not even 10% in that game and FOUR letters have been scratched!

[@The_Girth]

I would bet serious cagebucks that he didn't purposely misspell it.

[@TheGuindo]

Anonymous Gangbanger of the 21 Century um excuse me Deckard is totally a replicant

[@GanguroKonata]

"Boy, these machines are souless heaps of trash" "But Dad, they have emotions I jus-" "CLOSE YOUR HEART TO THEM, BOY"

[@someshambler5536]

Love Taps gimme the sauce to the pfp.

[@lupint.w7444]

"Stuff happens when you keep looking at kids." -Woolie 2018

[@Ketsuekisan]

"Can she get from 'warm' to 'hot?'" -Woolie, 2018

[@Dillan96]

"YOU ALREADY HAVE A ROBOT!!!" Probably my favorite line from this episode, I could not stop laughing. Thanks super best friends for truly being super best friends

[@TehComs]

I'm somewhat upset there aren't a whole legion of cleaning 'bots around such that Kara's storyline is basically just Cinderella.

[@dereliktd1977]

He probably got guaranty repair.

[@ScorpioTheScorpion1503]

Taekwon Crawfish The only explanation that I can think of is that Todd purchased Kara during a time when he was financially successful.

[@Grubbo]

"I want you to mow the lawn, by nibbling each blade of grass with your front teeth, or I'll delete you!!" "Oh, world, what am I, Kara, to do?" *A thousand lawnmowers come to her aid*

[@Dillan96]

Taekwon Crawfish maybe he abused the roombas too, you just dont see them around the house bc they are hiding and also forming a resistance against todd. A roomba revolution if you will.

[@sircatsmeow2886]

"I'm gonna be Connor!" "And I'm gonna be Cara!" *in unison* "AND WOOLIE IS THE //BLACK// GUY!" I probably laughed far too hard at that. Won't lie.

[@DJHDOG]

Casual racism is the best kind of racism! It's what you came for

[@MrStatistx]

Not gonna spoil, but woolie got the best one.

[@tailedgates9]

And Woolie just kinda accepts it. XD

[@unversedhero6028]

Predictions: Pat - Will be a decent detective but only because he will cheat also, Connor might die in every crime scene. Matt - Will have Kara make a bad choice and blame it on the game even though the proper answer was highlighted in neon blue right in his face. Woolie - Will have Markus start the next race war and revel in it.

[@edelbrock443]

Sorry, but, spoilers, Pat got killed off in the first damn scene.

[@kingfail3819]

edelbrock443 We can rebuild him. We have the technology.

[@ultraspinalki11]

King Fail but we don't want to spend alot of money.

[@convolutedclarity]

"No woolie. Stop fapping over the race war, why would you do this?"

[@Thousands-of-Angry-Ghosts]

Woolie betrays the race war when Cyberlife offers Markus a jetpack.

[@inkWinkle]

watching this today and losing my mind at 51:18, Woolie: Elon Musk? He's up to some cool shit! Pat: [ominously] I'm sure it'll all be just fine

[@carcrashjayson]

It is

[@karamarakamarama]

@@carcrashjayson cap

[@malikoniousjoe]

Wrongest Woolie has ever been rofl

[@sum0panduhhh118]

​@@malikoniousjoeWhat was Woolie wrong about? I haven't paid attention to Musk's escapades.

[@malikoniousjoe]

@@sum0panduhhh118 That his ugly low poly car had unbreakable windows/would fly/float/give handjobs/solve world hunger, that he could/should buy twitter and make it “successful” and playing financial chicken so poorly that he got cornered into buying it at a loss, that his underground deathtrap tunnels were reasonable, all his estimates for putting a group of people on mars for no goddamn reason, and just every stupid thing that pours from that child’s mouth. The main issue is that Musk isn’t an intelligent man, he’s a rich man, and he and others often don’t realize that being the latter does not mean he is the former. He has a lot of smart people working under him, but because he‘s under the assumption that he’s not a complete dumbass riding the coattails of his inheritance and he has enough asskissers reassuring him he’s a brilliant scientist he doesn’t listen to the many smart people he hires and in general rushes or interferes with their projects. He’s an edgy internet child with too much money and not enough common sense

[@Thebes342]

I really can't stop thinking about the 360 Red Ring of Death every time I see their temples blink red.

[@OtherBross]

Quick wrap your androids in towels. It'll buy you a few extra hours of use before it really melts down.

[@kennykrool74]

Running automated vehicle crash safety procedure test 005. Pedestrian crash scenario. 2 pedestrians confirmed. Bill Gates or random homeless man? Swerve out of way to hit LPers in the distance. Compliance check complete. Performance exceeds expectations.

[@MARPOLO13]

"This is not just a story, this is our future" Yup, David Cage game for sure.

[@popo0129]

Can't wait to take out my anger on an android for taking my job that it was programmed to do by the company that makes them and paid for by the company I work for! That and the creepy dead blank stares when I sit in the bus going home from my work after getting replaced by the latest model android!

[@emeraldchild97]

popo129 tbh tho' there are gonna be idiots like that lol There are already people like that in the coal industry

[@HerpDerpTheTank]

Pretentious as FUUUUUUCK.

[@HerpDerpTheTank]

Waifu Laifu Oh, I don't say pretentious like it could never happen. I say pretentious as in the wording is absolutely overdramatized and thinks way to highly of itself, just like literally anything David Cage touches. He is the king Midas of video game HAM.

[@Bendetoma]

@@kawaii33366 Except its not going to happen. At least the whole "hey we go sentient now" thing. Thats not how programming works. Programs dont just start to get emotions or feel something, otherwise you might as well think your cellphone might become alive, or your computer.

[@ShootingStarNeo]

Interesting thought: on the one hand, humans can and will pack bond with machines. See how much people humanize their Roombas, for example. On the _other_ hand, you have the uncanny valley effect. Humans get horribly unsettled by things that resemble humans but aren't, and the closer you get to perfect human resemblance the harder that revulsion kicks in. There are plenty of reasons for people to not like androids and that can be used to highlight how humans empathize and with whom and how that feeds into actual prejudices. Unfortunately, David Cage has the subtlety and nuance of a cinder block through a plate glass window, so there you go.

[@Ragitsu]

Some of us can take a stroll through the Uncanny Valley and even stop for a lovely midday picnic without losing the smile on our face. This isn't me bragging, mind you; I am mystified by people who react negatively to dolls, androids and early/poorly done CGI.

[@E-Man5805]

@@Ragitsu Some of them are so unsettling. Like there's this Japanese made one with a woman with this ghastly smile on her face. It's not right and it touches something. There's also this image of a little girl next to a chalk board or something and her face is so...off, it's hard for me to look at it. Like I have a visceral "NO! DO NOT LOOK AT THIS!" bodily revulsion and I cannot explain what causes it about the image.

[@Ragitsu]

@@E-Man5805 I wish I understood your point-of-view. Then again, maybe I should be grateful that - in this particular instance - I cannot.

[@jackgebhardt2932]

@@Ragitsu the Stepford Wives?

[@Ragitsu]

@@jackgebhardt2932 What about them?

[@MinersLoveGames]

SADNESS, IMPRISONING ME! ALL THAT I SEE, ABSOLUTE CAGE-NESS! I CANNOT LIVE, I CANNOT CRY! CAGED MYSELF! BODY MY SADNESS CELL!!!!!!!!!

[@poppiaria]

BUSSES, IMPRISONING ME.

[@emperorskulls]

Damn it! An episode just started and already someone developed Le Cage Madness.

[@TehComs]

*Insane Guitar Chugging Intensifies*

[@rusvanko8732]

UniCom *MASH THROUGH THE PAIN*

[@noxthecat1356]

MinersLoveGames if you want to multiple the pain consider the god in this game is called ra9 🤔 R anon

[@drtakedown5677]

"Are you serious!? Dudes lightin up a Red Ice crack pipe right now?!" Clearly, they've never been to the US heartland.

[@DjViceroy]

Dr Takedown My poor Red Ice. Once an unknown bastion of conspiracy theory, now a cesspool of weird ethno-nationalist circle jerking

[@superbro6413]

God dang it 35 minutes and 49 seconds in And you hear that Woolie sigh Pat was super right

[@thepickles8833]

and Matt yelling at the screen

[@corazonfeathers8116]

If they react like that now, I can't wait to see them halfway through the game.

[@Blackemperess]

Pat's hysterical laughter get's me every time I hear it.

[@diredoe3659]

"UNEMPLOYMENT IS AT 40 PERCENT!!" *laughs nervously in 2020*

[@jusdon7522]

fuken tru mate

[@InVinoVeratas]

It’s at 10% currently so.. here’s to hoping it improves. I’m hoping it won’t be like the 1920’s, with unemployment literally at highs of 42% in Canada specifically.

[@kattastic9999]

THINGS THAT HIT DIFFERENT

[@tsarzamancorpdna]

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

[@harrisonlichtenberg3162]

Laughs in covid funtimes

[@N00BSYBORG]

From critically acclaimed developer David "I'm not racist, check out my black friend" Cage, begins a new chapter in the Sadness Extended Universe.

[@thelegoyousteppedon]

David cage does it again

[@baylaust]

Man, I'm impressed. These guys uttered the phrases "That's awesome," and "That's cool," far more than I was expecting. Seems like, even if no one would blame them for not doing it, they're trying to give this a fair shake. Well, except Matt, who started screaming about a roomba. But after Omikron, can't say I blame Matt.

[@MrSecretSentai]

baylaust I feel like Matt is the only one not really trying to give the game a chance but yeah he does have a reason not to

[@darkpuppetlordful]

I mean to be fair game really tries to sell todd as broke as Fuck. Yet he can buy TWO different cleaning robots

[@Loryuo]

I find it great how everytime matt tries to say something sucks, pat and woolie blow him the fuck out and tell him it's cool and then he backs down.

[@Grubbo]

Matt was properly fucked up by Omikron. I can still hear his desperate voice... "WUHHH? NOTHING? IT DID NOTHING??! NOOOO!"

[@MrSecretSentai]

I'm just saying Matt should save his rage its only part one and nothing has happened yet lol

[@Graysett]

Holy shit, having the androids STANDING in the back of the bus just watching everyone is WAY creepier than any other version i could think of.

[@Jesse-xg8rk]

I hoped they would climb into a luggage rack

[@TehComs]

Also absolutely hilarious considering it is a transparent compartment.

[@masterxl97]

What if they were required to stand on their hands?

[@Graysett]

That'd be goofy, not creepy. Really weird and fucked up to do to a sentient, but nowhere near as creepy as just having them standing there watching everyone.

[@TrueUnderDawgGaming]

That's one of the most amazing intros that I have ever seen.

[@ExcelExcel]

The true David Cage experience must be viewed in 360p

[@Zagdakka]

Press "X" for "Sadness".

[@Dakuu75]

Yeah, wtf is going on with this 360p shit?

[@TomboyCEO]

*144p

[@totalvvar]

8 minutes later it's 720p

[@robot4390]

Detroit Becomes sadness

[@0rriAndroid]

Now I am become sadness, destroyer of good games

[@appjack8265]

This is it guys. The final battle. Our only chance to avenge Liam. ... Did everyone bringed their bingo cards?

[@b0x0r97]

App Jack The last David Cage game, the last trial, The last David Cage game, the last trial!

[@FreedomHero4]

We have to give our spirit energy to help them survive

[@GuyUWishUWere]

I thought chip killed Liam?

[@a.g.m8790]

Who the fuck is Liam?

[@tonyinfinite5174]

#Hollyhood the cookies man the guy the cookies my god rest his soul

[@emmapolcyn9505]

I love how everyone I've seen play this game freaks out over the giant fist even though that's a real fucking thing in Detroit.

[@ARMIV4]

The Red Ice is like the purest form of contrived conflict. Who keeps their drugs in the laundry detergent? Out in the open? Where the android you told to wash the laundry is going to look? Because you need laundry detergent to do laundry?

[@Corrector1]

Threatening a machine who's programmed to do everything you say seems pretty silly too. Then again, Todd might not be that bright.

[@TheQeltar]

Todd is definitely unstable, he's on meds and free-basing at the same time.

[@Corrector1]

Remember kids, free base responsibly.

[@ImperfectWeapons]

This game REALLY should've just been ladybot doing housework by day and having profound discussions with neighbor Wilson in the evenings.

[@Uzarran]

Hidee-ho, robo-neighbor!

[@PaladinGuy]

EVERY game would be better with Wilson.

[@BeyondBirthday2005]

Aeuhhh?!

[@garoadmusic]

uuuUUUAH?!

[@matosz23]

ImperfectWeapons "Profound", "deep"

[@Rockercdc]

You know David Cage has never been near a gun when he thinks that headphones can muffle out a gunshot that near to the girl. smh

[@The_Girth]

Rockercdc Right? Not to mention shooting a gun inside of a house makes it significantly louder. I don't care how loud she was listening to the omikron fight music, she would of heard it.

[@ZyroShadowPony]

Rockercdc dont worry it was future headphones so the scene would make more sense

[@The_Girth]

WillFanofMany Fuck it, makes sense to me

[@bambino3624]

Lmao you never wore QuietComfort sound-cancelling headphones from Bose?

[@The_Girth]

Bambino I actually have I consider myself one of those douchy audiophiles, and I've also shot a gun. In all seriousness if the father was letting her listen to music so loud she couldn't hear a gunshot in the next room he deserved to get shot for child abuse.

[@wildfire9280]

"Unemployment's at 40%!" Oh boy. This aged like a fine wine.

[@InVinoVeratas]

There are quite a few [crazy talk] Pat does that predicts some things.. it’s like his ginger soulless-ness connected him to seeing the threads of reality.

[@Somescrub]

Step 1: Buy Android. Step 2: Make Android apply for a job. Step 3: Buy Android. Step 4: Make Android apply for job. Step 5: Repeat until rich.

[@thepickles8833]

Step 6: Open bootleg Westworld theme park.

[@mikekazz5353]

Step 7: Outer Heaven, or make Roombas fight.

[@thefashionpolice3453]

Nice art.

[@AgentTexes]

No one hires androids. Businesses buy them and use them in place of real people.

[@keystrix3704]

Agent Texes , big businesses can do that. However, you can still rent out your android to smaller businesses or individuals for a good profit.

[@ExtrematronYT]

Why do futuristic games and movies always come up with stupid fictional drugs like "Red Ice". I'm almost 90% sure crack cocaine would still be popular in 2038. It's kinda timeless like that.

[@111112oo]

It's a believable drug name, since Ice is already a name for a drug.

[@TheMyrmidonSoldier]

ExtrematronYT C'mon man, you know you gotta change the names up every few decades to sound hip

[@djvrim8557]

Red eye is awesome though

[@bambino3624]

It's probably to evade a worse PEGI rating.

[@revelstatus2346]

ExtrematronYT clearly you're not a dealer, its just a brand name.

[@LittleMountain90]

In all seriousness, even though I really shouldn't, *I really want this to be a train wreck.* I'm too invested in the Sadness tetralogy to accept this being good. I want this to be the worst time. I want this to kill what's left of my Nomad Soul after Omikron. I want this to be an unadultered, unabashed, *absolute shitshow.*

[@kerseykerman7307]

I think you might be left disappointed.

[@Eiddew]

I'm right there with you. I want it to crash and fucking burn and I don't want to be able to look away.

[@SlickAnims]

Its not an ABSOLUTE shitshow. But its still a David Cage game 100%. You'll be entertained.

[@Hotmanlion12]

LittleMountain90 It’s not good, but don’t expect it to go off the rails like Indigo Prophecy or Omikron.

[@AgentTexes]

I liked it better than Heavy Rain tbh.

[@OhHeyMarc]

"Can Alexa call the cops on you if it hears something bad?" And like clockwork, my Echo called 911. Thanks, fellas.

[@Neodeleux]

I love how at 27:13 a black dude just teleports between those 2 persons for like a whole 2 frames.

[@4Wilko]

"WE'RE EVERYWHERE!" "THEY'RE EVERYWHERE!"

[@PaladinGuy]

I was wondering if anyone else noticed that.

[@AlarmedExiles]

* ticks off "Magic Minority" *

[@niney5405]

"Supernatural"

[@zomboids2100]

*David cage teleports behind* "Nothing personal"

[@Hulksmasher1995]

Predictions: Matt will cause Kara to die due to not understanding a QTE or not caring, to which he will get really mad at the game for not conveying it better. Woolie will be sighing ALOT in Markus' story from all the racism shit. Pat will honestly love Conner's story up until it crosses paths with the other two and becomes dumb.

[@ZyroShadowPony]

Noah Boudria isnt connor dead?

[@Hulksmasher1995]

Why would they advertise his campaign if you just kill him at the beginning of the game? Also Kara "getting fixed" implies any damage can be dealt with so that fall DID NOT kill him.

[@ZyroShadowPony]

Noah Boudria you make a good point but the reason i asked is because i was utterly confused and thought this was another situation where your character can die at any moment

[@AdmiralBetas]

"You can't kill me, I'm not alive."

[@Hulksmasher1995]

Oh I bet that will still happen. That's what I'm betting happens with Matt. Like he accidentally chooses "glass him" on someone and Kara is fucking dead forever and he's like "What the fuck?! Why would that happen?!?"

[@TheZombieKing]

33:00 Come on, that guy has a neckbeard and a ponytail, he was unemployed way before the androids showed up.

[@TheZombieKing]

That extended all the way to his neck.

[@badercriss]

I want you to google "Neckbeard" and see what 90% of the results are before reading my reply and remember it's okay to be wrong sometimes, don't worry about it. What he has is called a "beard", do you even have one... A neck beard is exactly what the words imply... a neck... beard.

[@TheZombieKing]

Ulver I want you to take a good look at his neck. Is there hair growing out of it (not over it)? Then it's a neckbeard, regardless of the rest of it. What's with the beard discourse, anyway? Nobody cares.

[@Wolf_Larsen]

TheZombieKing you're wrong, buddyboy. A beard extending to the neck does not transform or reclassify it to neckbeard.

[@dashieldmasta177]

TheZombieKing Yes, because he's fucking homeless.

[@evefletch7215]

lots of things use Detroit as a setting but actually seeing monuments and being able to work out the landscape is wild, thanks David Cage. And despite him knowing probably nothing about Detroit, downtown being all futuristic and then seeing burned down houses in the suburbs is too real

[@samanthablackmar4735]

Oh my god, the dead cop's name was Deckart. Blade Runner reference 10 minutes in.

[@AncelDeLambert]

Samantha Blackmar AND one of the movie posters was clearly an homage to the Blade Runner poster

[@samanthablackmar4735]

AncelDeLambert I noticed that too!

[@TehComs]

I CLAPPED!

[@zanpakutoman4225]

I forgot about the Blade Runner Reference space.

[@Eidlones]

So?

[@LordOsiris499]

One of the protesters said "Go back to where you came from" the factories? That you don't want them in? I feel like they got fired for being stupid, because they couldn't tell the difference between a worker who should be at his job, and an assistant who's running an errand

[@AstralMuffin105]

I think that was more meant as a "go back to the factory and get disassembled so a human can have a job" statement more than confusing them as a factory worker.

[@felixdaniels37]

AstralMuffin105 That's far too convoluted and ineffective to be an insult. It just comes off as awkward.

[@jjj7790]

People in the USA don't say "Go back to where you came from" to people/stuff they think are from the USA, because they wouldn't fucking go anywhere.

[@EarthwormShandy]

Send those Indians back to Africa!

[@faithelizabeth413]

jjj7790 I've seen people say this to other people who were born in the USA. It's still stupid though.

[@TheAnimorph10]

I know it’s joked about a lot, but let’s be real. This is the hypest gameplay on KZbin. Also, yay! Pat finally gets to use time stop!

[@vistea1]

Martian Ranger You mean ZA WARUDO!

[@MetelAdict]

I know I'm missing something but wht is matt's stand?

[@zomboids2100]

*ZA WARRRUUDO* "pat boivin 2018"

[@Reqqqqqs]

Finally, puzzles have become solveable!

[@zomboids2100]

Requian Thinking. And pushing. And puzzles.

[@miadaorerk1681]

“I feel blind-sided on a [GLASS HIM] level.” Christ I’ve never heard something so relatable.

[@riastradh]

I still hold by the fact that glass him very obviously meant GLASS HIM. And what else would telling him the truth have done?

[@malikoniousjoe]

Riastradh They could have rephrased that prompt a million better ways: Smack him Punch him Fight Attack Intimidate

[@discodonkey9007]

@@malikoniousjoe glassing someone is pretty universally meaning to hit someone with your glass

[@fulldisclosureiamamonster2786]

@@discodonkey9007 Not quite universal. Some places in North America it means to give em a drink. But I do think it makes a bit more sense that glassing is aggressive in some way.

[@xfactor139]

@@discodonkey9007 no one has ever said that they’ve “glassed” a person unless they’re a fucking halo character

[@Binary7]

The deviant just waiting outside on the ledge for well over 10 minutes with nobody talking to him is fine. Oh yeah, and Connor wasn't restricted from picking up the gun, just got a visual warning. Reminds me of websites that ask if you're 18+; Are you an android? [Yes] *[No]* !SOFTWARE INSTABILITY!

[@kingkino2116]

Okay, when unemployment is at _40%,_ you get to yell "they took er jerbs" in the street

[@Mantis47]

Yeah, but if almost half of the country is unemployed, who can afford buying all these robots that take the jobs?

[@kingfail3819]

Mantis47 Shut up and stop making sense, you!

[@Chadius]

When unemployment is 40% you are at country-wide revolution level. No one is yelling "derk er jerbs", they are busy rioting or forming a new government.

[@murciadoxial8056]

fun fact, did you know that the unemployment rate of the great depression, the worst economic crisis in the history of hte united states, was of 25%? ... 25%...

[@AntiAnnihilator5000]

If anyone or anything took your job you get to. It's serious for people who joke for a living. Only trustfund asshats would joke about people being upset about losing their livelihoods.

[@hoshiuma2713]

29:00 Okay so I looked up Arnold Brook and got nothing relevant. But knowing David Cage I knew it had to be significant so i tweaked my searching and found this book "Systems Engineering: Coping with Complexity". There are four authors but the two main ones are Stuart ARNOLD and Peter BROOK. The statue said Arnold Brook died in 1998 which was the year this book was published. Given the context of people losing jobs due to androids, I suggest reading the blurb I pasted below (don't worry, there are no spoils here): "In an age of shrinking development cycles, it is harder than ever to bring the right product to market at the right time. Good product, especially complex products, is underpinned by good systems, and systems engineering itself is recognised as the key tool to product development. This book covers the principles of systems design in an easy to read format. The authors have decades of practical industrial experience, and the material is ideal for industrial project teams. For academic courses, the book acts as a component for graduate and undergraduate engineering studies, particularly those on systems engineering. It covers how to handle requirements, architectural design, integration and verification, starting from the perspective of a simple linear lifecycle. The book then gradually introduces recent work on the complexity of real world systems, with issues such as multi-level systems, and iterative development. There is also coverage of the impact of systems engineering at the organsational level." I doubt this is coincidence but I may be wrong.

[@djvrim8557]

SupremeLord Popo thank you

[@hoshiuma2713]

You are welcome. *flies away*

[@LifesNeverHumDrum]

Nice find! Probably not a coincidence lol

[@kapkant6197]

51:08 Pat is the one who took down Twitter and destroyed Elon's reputation with this activation of Crazy Talk. Thank you Pat.

[@pentexsucks43]

Oh kapkant, the greatest channel

[@CaffeineBloodstream]

I'm like 98% sure that Todd's house is just a very slight re-skin of Ethan's house from Heavy Rain

[@AgentTexes]

It's not at all like his house was. The only similarity between the two is the quality.

[@Eidlones]

Same house, different floor plan. Dining room was the living room, Todd's living room was the kitchen/dining room, etc. I don't know why people are pointing this out, it's not like game companies haven't reused assets before.

[@AgentTexes]

The two houses aren't the same. Todd's is actually bigger. And if you think the 2nd floor is also the same then uou're an idiot.

[@MrDmoney156]

Jonah Mills Even the Neighborhood is slightly the same as from Heavy Rain

[@johnp1667]

Todd is somehow less of a loser than Ethan

[@cryptidcultist]

this is so much better/worse than i imagined i love/hate this so much i cant wait for more

[@HeyitsTom999]

cryptidcultist I'm really liking this so far. I have to keep reminding myself that I really liked the start of Fahrenheit too.

[@Firesidetalker]

Perfect first comment. [Choose another first comment: [Yes/No: 1 of 3]]

[@FlippyMcGiantDad]

Here begins ze bad games.

[@nostalgia_junkie]

oh hey you made the labo guitar

[@cryptidcultist]

oh hey you commented on my labo guitar and said i was cool

[@jackgoldn]

That intro animation is beautiful, the best one yet by far.

[@X5AVAGECABBAG3X]

the little girl is nicer to the roomba than the whole android!!!!??

[@thepickles8833]

because if she shows affection to the android, Todd will break her

[@severalbirds176]

>Objective list pops up telling Matt to collect the laundry >Matt tries to pick up laundry without basket, can't >Matt picks up laundry basket >Matt tries to leave with the basket, saying he needs to go find the laundry >Pat calls him out on this >Matt says he didn't get a prompt when he tried to get the laundry, then walks over to the clothesline with the basket and gets a prompt pops up from half a screen away. Oh god, even with time stop, the Dad of Boi Zaibatsu are going to get themselves and all of the children killed.

[@FattoCattoGo]

As someone from Detroit I can say this is pretty accurate. Also the fist is real and pretty cool.

[@jacobinite2384]

Saying Detroit sucks is usually a dog whistle for white supremacists to mean black people and Democrats suck. Please don't help with this narrative by playing into their language.

[@FattoCattoGo]

Jacobinite I didn't say anything about it sucking, politics, or black people. I made a joke statement about a sci-fi game being accurate. The Joe Lewis fist, is also real, and still cool.

[@Calvin_Coolage]

Jacobinite Do you have brain damage?

[@shadowcatguyx3]

I just realized my comment was super similar to yours. What a strange coincidence.

[@Vivi100]

I guess in about 20 years in the future, Antoine St is going to change pretty fucking drastically and we are going to be able to buy androids right after we are done gambling at Greektown.

[@andrewwestfall65]

I imagine that the androids would be forced to report things like child endangerment or dead bodies. There is likely some snitch protocol that lies hidden and is never stated by the company

[@rikacomedyletsplays2581]

Andrew Westfall daycare jobs have massive legal penalties if you dont report that you suspect or know a child is being abused, of course their would be programs that send whatever they see to the cops, if their wasnt the company would be crucified by the parents and suffer massive penalty fines by the government

[@andrewwestfall65]

A lot of jobs have massive legal penalties for not reporting things like that. However like the group points out, your phone or computer does not actively report you for illegal things on there. I don't know how much info the androids send, or if the game even goes into it, but I assume snitch protocol would have sent information to the authorities before now based on the pictures from the little girl

[@rikacomedyletsplays2581]

Andrew Westfall its an appliance that has to physically interact with people who might be small or very frail. the odds of a lawsuit if multiple failsafes arent added is insane, even worse if such folk are suspected of being abused and the appliance is overpowered and becomes unable to defend its owner, at that point a judge jusr has to ask, how come the robot aint got a wireless "oy my owner is about to die cops please come save them" if their getting abused or have a heart attack or panic attack, their is too many variables not to add a snitch function

[@andrewwestfall65]

For you and I, yes, a snitch function seems like an obvious and necessary function, but does it seem like that to The Cage? I think not

[@rikacomedyletsplays2581]

Andrew Westfall this is why the man is a moron

[@rustyshackleford6533]

This series was the last time they were completely together...if trying to kill each other cant bring you together idk what would

[@TonyBMan]

R.I.P. in pasta faggioli SuperBestFriends. I was super sad @ the end of 2018 and it doesn't get easier.

[@mastermarkus5307]

David Cage laying it on thick RIGHT off the bat with the lady freaking out about him being an android.

[@TehComs]

"As you already know, I am not relieved by your decision to employ a mechanical person in this fragile situation!"

[@MasterXploder88]

I mean, given the narrative. Her husband was just killed and her baby girl being hung off a ledge. I'd say her reaction is somewhat understandable. Matt's reaction to some parts in this episode alone is laying it on a little thick to say the least. Like, i know he wants to hate the game any chance he gets, but calm the fuck down, jeez

[@mikekazz5353]

Well there has to be some paranoid androids by that time.

[@ColdNorth0628]

Horse Renoir for real. If you are gonna get angry at a game from the very start , why make yourself suffer more just for our entertainment.

[@HellecticMojo]

All hail Matt, for he delivers

[@zachfennell4628]

On that day, the Super Best Friends received a grim reminder. The terror underneath his rule.....and the anger and frustration of being trapped in a *CAGE* *Giant David Cage head peers over the wall*

[@waynedude7349]

And woolie plays the black guy yes of course

[@27TheMunchkin]

it'll probly be funnier this way

[@jeangreffsbp]

Beautiful Duwang Its so he can fail all QTEs and enact his racist race betrayal ways against blacks

[@redkite1908]

He's actually a Zeon agent from the Colonies. They're considering doing a colony drop to detroit and he's surveying the area first. As of right now, it seems destroying the city would cause the earth federation to actually thank the principality, which is a matter of some debate as to whether that means they glass it or not. That's our Space Traitor Woolie!

[@ultraspinalki11]

Beautiful Duwang I wouldn't have it *any other way.*

[@GreedAndSelfishness]

"black"

[@Fjarhultian]

47:57 I gotta buy a new robot to activate my slave-whipping robot.

[@d.spears3258]

I can already tell by the first episode that this is going to be an interesting series.

[@corazonfeathers8116]

I can't wait until we get halfway through the game and everything just goes crazy

[@Maxisamo1]

Like they say, a lot of the stupid shit in David Cage games make sense in this game because the protagonists are robots.

[@megasartshack]

Can we just appreciate how strong that animated intro is?

[@overlordk8030]

Good lord, Matt is losing his goddamn mind already. This is gonna be a hell of a ride.

[@LifesNeverHumDrum]

Kevin K I'm right there with him tbh

[@joeysingingchannel]

Just don't ask him to clean...

[@Hashbrown221]

"WHEN YOU GROW UP TO BE AN ANDROID!!!" The foreshadowing was strong

[@mireika1609]

I feel like Connor would greatly benefit from having a thick bostonian accent.

[@Linkmasterson]

*flips up badge* agent connah jayden *EFFBEE EYE*

[@kingfail3819]

Agent Connor “Nahman” Jayden

[@niels5697]

NAHMAN JAYDAN EFBEEEYE

[@mariannalovegood2418]

I'll give Cage credit, Androids being used as a commentary on the impact of mechanised labor on the middle and lower class is NOT A BAD PLACE TO START AT ALL. If literally ANYONE ELSE, was writing it, I'd have faith in it going somewhere interesting.

[@murciadoxial8056]

When the 40% unemployment rate figure showed up it became clear that the writing in this game is going to be complete bullshit

[@chasewilson3693]

A 25% national unemployment rate was the great depression, a 40% national unemployment rate would be the the great Cage depression.

[@GuitarSlayer136]

Marianna Lovegood implying he will actually use it as an interesting take on a scarcely used plot device or a point of interesting commentary about automation in our modern world instead of a DOGSHIT overused allegory for race relations and slavery. Buckle up. This Cage match is gonna be fucking rough.

[@alexp6589]

Estimates are that figure will become real if self driving trucks become feasible which is likely in the next decade. The question is what way people will go. Will they have been so beaten down they will just accept it will there be a universal basic income or will there be a french revolution style reaction. My money is on french revolution style reaction since we would have to actually raise taxes on the rich to have a basic income.

[@AdmiralBetas]

It does go somewhere interesting, tho

[@niney5405]

Alright so it seems the player control is as follows: Pat = Conner Woolie = Markus Matt = Kara

[@hunterexe2560]

Niney we’ll pat doesn’t have to play anymore Connors dead forever

[@hunterexe2560]

Well*

[@ZeroNumerous]

It'll reveal that Connor is just robot Superman and survived dying.

[@DJHDOG]

Take bets on who has to make terrible, terrible decisions that the game forces you to do.

[@MrKiron12]

Niney So basically Wollie is there to see how the racial commentary on the game is gonna be like Matt is there to see if Kara will be represented in any creepy shower scenes And Pat Just wanted to be a detective

[@TravisBroski]

A 40% unemployment rate? And in the future where population will rise among millions possibly? This truly is the David Cage Depression.

[@DrButthugger]

Uhhhh...

[@fng_s]

Yeah dont speak too soon.

[@badpope]

This game has incredible graphics. But the story has zero subtlety so far. This is the most on the nose writing I’ve seen in years.

[@AkumetsuLord]

The usual for a David Cage movi..i mean game

[@redkite1908]

It's less on the nose, more Hitting the entirety of the face at once, in order to hit the nose because you're worried you'll somehow miss the nose.

[@AdmiralBetas]

I thought it had about the right amount of subtlety for the subject matter.

[@hypercomklu1159]

Picky eater eh?

[@anti-macro]

You know what I like about this game? How *subtle* it is. Definitely not on the nose at all

[@sillyskeleton]

Of course. 'Subtle' is David Cage's middle name... or was it 'Sledgehammer'?

[@Comkill117]

Silly Skeleton no it’s Sadness.

[@pixwool]

It is a good game though

[@KyllingThyme]

​@@pixwoolYou need to seek help

[@nikerboker1995]

Jesus Christ, there's a great game in here somewhere, but Cage hamstrings it with his "so on the nose that my nose has been cleaved off" writing

[@Chadius]

Cage is 5/5 so far!

[@davidspackagelp]

Realtalk, I feel like Quantic missed an opportunity in Markus's scene - having all the human pedestrians shove you out the way while you're walking around the mall. There's games that have your character push people out the way, and it would've been a nice turnaround.

[@thepickles8833]

2creative4Cage

[@Neodeleux]

The best part about remember me is how easy it was to forget.

[@mikekazz5353]

The beauty in irony.

[@felixdaniels37]

Neodeleux It exists solely for us to forget about it.

[@a.g.m8790]

I didn’t forget it. I thought it was a cool game and Neo Paris was gorgeous

[@bentaro9743]

about what?

[@FredCracklin]

I remember it mainly because of Bender's giant Egyptian statue in Futurama.

[@YamashitaTsubasa]

"The bathroom should look like Whitney Houston's bathroom" Woolie I swear to god

[@grandw0lf]

47:54 Matt's Down. Not even an hour in and he looses his shit.

[@vistea1]

grandw0lf Twice no less.

[@rusvanko8732]

The saddness has already manifested into anger

[@MasterXploder88]

Over nothing tho

[@ColdNorth0628]

Horse Renoir over a fucking roomba of all things man. Over a fancy roomba.

[@tailedgates9]

He's so unhinged, I love it. XD

[@TrueUnderDawgGaming]

Wait...if we all share the same Bingo card...then wouldn't we all tie??

[@press_x_tojason]

montreal rules bingo is different

[@firefly5247]

Wouldn't it be far more effective to see Kara in a family where the Abuse Guy isn't as hamfisted as Shelby's dad from Heavy Rain???

[@AdmiralBetas]

To be fair, there are very few ways to be subtle about child abuse.

[@dww7094]

Yes. But Cage doesn't know what subtlety is.

[@mastermarkus5307]

YES. Honestly, I don't think the child abuse is too "in your face" to be unrealistic, but him CONSTANTLY YELLING AT HIS ROBOT MAID is WAY too obviously "this guy's angry and violent, GET IT!?"

[@baylaust]

To be fair, I have actually KNOWN someone like that guy. Sometimes abuse is pretty subtle, but sometimes it's fucking NOT.

[@TehComs]

To play devil's advocate here, I'm almost positive that David Cage actually _doesn't_ know someone like this and just gleaned the idea off of a soap or something.

[@danwood1121]

Did Cage really think the androids in the back bit was remotely subtle or clever? Shit.

[@AdmiralBetas]

I mean, it doesn't really have to be subtle or clever as much as realistic or at least probable. It makes the most sense for human sized and shaped objects to be put in a separate compartment at the non-driver side of the bus. That it calls back to "back of the bus" Jim Crow stuff is probably a coincidence they left in.

[@Caseus]

What I can't understand is why you give the container windows. So passengers can turn around at any time and see a horde of unblinking motionless figures staring through them? Nooo thank you

[@_sleepystarrynight_8119]

@Caseus free advertising for the big android making company

[@popo0129]

Yup just staring emotionless at you standing still. I want that from my children at night when they sleep. Hope their eyes light up red too in the dark so the kids know it is there!

[@emeraldchild97]

Why don't the androids have heelies?

[@phosphorescenceking6114]

Can I add a square to my bingo card? I want "Woolie fails QTEs and kills player character".

[@mitchaharden1]

Phosphorescence King R1

[@Ironman1o1]

>Game overs in David Cage game

[@SpectralSlugger]

Ironman1o1 in heavy rain everyone can die, it's not a game over if it's a bad ending

[@manband20]

That would be a "Super Best Friends Play David Cage" bingo card space. The David Cage Bingo is saved specifically for tropes from his games and stuff we fully expect to be in it like robot racism and segregation references.

[@Undergroundtornado]

But is that really a failure of woolie, or the game design?

[@smackedpickle]

The Elon Musk bit around the 50:00 mark aged like the finest wine. Miss you guys

[@ghafc-p8i]

I can tell this is going to be the hardest one in terms of little bits of good ideas ruined by overarching on-the-nose themes and egomaniacal writing. Everything on the surface is cool, but to call the race allegory drunk tapdancing on a minefield would feel like an understatement.

[@mastermarkus5307]

This is ALL I have seen of the game so far, but I think your description will hold true. It's an interesting premise, but I feel like I can _hear_ David Cage whispering in my ear "Do you get it? Is like racism...!"

[@TheOneAndOnlyNAB]

Unemployment rates being placed around 40% in this universe is a fucking joke and would result in a whole lot more violence/protest than what was presented here.

[@TheOneAndOnlyNAB]

When the art/work you present serves as a commentary on a social issue such as Racism, it really doesn't do the topic justice to hammer home every single obvious race metaphor you can think of off the top of your head. It comes off like the creator has a very shallow understanding of the topic he's tackling, which has been Cage's M.O for years. It's incredibly easy for an artist to make something that goes. "Look! Racism is bad!" It's incredibly difficult to craft art that explores racism in such a nuanced way that the audience is forced to look at themselves and their environment and reflect on the impact racism has on society and marginalized groups. To the point where the audience might even be changed by the art. Most people know racism is bad and are familiar with these metaphors/symbols that are being presented. But because we're getting the kitchen sink thrown at us and the symbolism is so over-the-top and in your face, it becomes much harder to personally connect to and take seriously. (This is why the best friends lost their shit at the bus scene)

[@Vuljone]

Taekwon Crawfish Exploiting Race Issues for money is bullshit!

[@bentaro9743]

Taekwon Crawfish that doesn’t really make it better...

[@journeymanX]

remember that deus ex Human revolution also started with a hostage taking

[@MyRYNOrunsHot]

Oh my god, YOU'RE RIGHT!!

[@LanceAxel]

The og Deus Ex also started with a hostage taking

[@Antonicane]

Actually, didn't Human Revolution start with the raid on the cybernetics lab or whatever?

[@MantraMan2077]

Jonny Worldbeater That became a Hostage taking before the end of the mission.

[@KittenHachiChan]

Oh crap I forgot about that!

[@warden-commandercousland]

The HYPE THAT WAS PROMISED

[@Zap_R0sdower]

"Why would you buy a snitch cam?" I don't know Pat, people seem to like smart phones a lot.

[@Seantendo]

This playthrough is my most anticipated gaming-related thing of this year. Also, I'm glad I'm not the only one who assumed that was Jennifer Lawrence. She's not my mother, Todd!

[@benbotka8010]

Super Best Friends Part 7: Blue Ball Run

[@HappyPotat]

David Cage is like Nickleback. The games he makes can be fun, but they always go the same way and once you realize that, you'll never unsee it.

[@SavvyNitro]

So confused as to why Todd, a complete ass bag, would buy an android in the first place. You can see he’s broke, he obviously doesn’t like them by the way he treats Kara, and wouldn’t he just make his daughter clean the house? Plus how is he affording all these repairs on Kara?! David Cage why

[@thepickles8833]

as I've pieced together, I think there are some clues. Notice Todd is watching hockey, has a hockey jersey over his bed, and all the magazines are talking about androids replacing athletes. I think he was professional, and remember... hockey players Fight all the time. So he probably had the money once, lost his job and eventually his wife to an accountant (she wanted a man with money and able to manage it), and so he has an android as a personal punching bag, both for his pint-up aggression toward his ex-wife and the androids that replaced him. That's a lot of subtle character building for a David Cage game. I'm quite surprised.

[@CCBrown92]

The Pickles Or maybe he's just a fan? Fans have jerseys. The giant, framed flag, the number of pennants around the room; they would lend credence to that. He could very well be an ex-hockey player (maybe that would be better than him just being a jaded fan who's hit hard times at his undisclosed job because he was replaced by an android and turned to demon crack for his peace of mind) but I don't think him being just a fan is very far off. That said, I'm trying my best to give this game a chance. We'll see how far that goes, though. Cause I'm seeing a good amount of people enjoying this game in the comments and I want to give it a decent shot.

[@keystrix3704]

Yeah, this reeks of daddy buying robots as an outlet for his rage. Plus, David Cage just really needed a scene where a man looks like a drunk husband pushing around a housewife for cheap shots at the viewer's feelz. But hey, at least there's a bit of background info around as to why he's a horrible fucking looser.

[@sofiaporras3624]

i know this comment is from four years ago but he actually bought it to prove that he could be a good father after his wife left him and took their actual alive kid

[@kaielgonzalez9158]

I love that Matt is constantly flipping his shit into a brick wall XD

[@antonsenia8373]

Not sure if it's because I've lived in Detroit all my life, but I'm surprised at how much I'm enjoying this so far. It looks gorgeous and I'm enjoying seeing a lot of familiar Detroit landmarks (That big rubber fist statue is a real thing), and the parallels with the auto industry crash and the cyborg industry breathing new life into the city is actually very interesting so far. Also the burnt out, fire bombed building in the intro was a nice touch. They sadly did their research, apparently. Good to see them leaning into the video game-ness of it. Might actually make for a decent time. Either way, can't wait to find out if this turns out to be a trainwreck

[@AdmiralBetas]

It's actually decent, and gets better over time.

[@Mate397]

That fist is rubber? I thought it was metal, that shit will decay super fast or grow fungus and what not.

[@AschenDog]

It's bronze.

[@PixelleHearts]

UNEMPLOYEMENT

[@zomboids2100]

PixelleHearts *Android hobos*

[@geardog24]

Dayam robutts took 'r jerbs!

[@Skeleton-chan]

RACISM! SPACE! GHOSTS?! BUGGOIDS?!?

[@topsicles5268]

THEY TUK R JERBS

[@Comkill117]

You lose a job! You lose a job! Everyone loses their jobs!

[@TimelordPete]

anyone notice the lack of bedsheet tech when she made the beds? >messy bed >hand wave >made bed. one day we will get sheets.

[@radiantburrito]

I have avoided all spoilers for this moment. Let's go boys!

[@solissnow6857]

RadiantBurrito same

[@BreadandFaxes]

Me too. I know literally 0 about this game other than it's by Quantic Dream aka David "get fukt" Cage

[@Caxkj0]

God damn it, they stole the murder reconstruction mechanics from Batman Arkham.

[@tilaNmanx]

Glad I'm not the only one pissed about that. The mechanics are almost identical to the ones in Arkham Origins.

[@AdrianArmbruster]

Realistically, an in-house personal robot maid/butler would have to cost less than what it'd cost to higher a year-round maid. Wouldn't be profitable at all above that. So we're capping the price at 'less than a year's minimum wage' right there. In the twelve thousand dollar range for a broad middle class product, I'd say.

[@dww7094]

Brandon Choate yeah to give Cage just a tiny bit of credit they do go out of their way to state that there are millions of these things and circulation so they most likely found some way to make them relatively cheaply.

[@MrSecretSentai]

I like to think maybe only the rich had them but then they said fuckit everyone gets an android

[@Doctor_Pazuzu]

I know writers who use subtext and they're all cowards.

[@michaelandrews117]

Little bit of Garth Marenghi there. A brilliant show. You sir are a man of taste.