Superbowl 50 catch not a catch?

Superbowl 50 Carolina Panthers vs Denver Broncos controversial play first quarter Jerricho Cotchery made the catch wasn't called.. swung the early momentum

[@boogie8844]

Here 7 years later to say this was a catch.

[@69dillydally]

I agree...this missed call changed the whole game.

[@richt1750]

+David Eckman It wasn't missed.

[@69dillydally]

+Rich T There wasn't enough evidence to overturn the call. If they had rued it a catch and the Broncos challenged the call would stand. It is human error and the Broncos lucked out.

[@TheSectric]

+David Eckman It was a catch every in the booth agreed but of course the guy making call had to help his favorite team.

[@Milehighsnake98]

+David Eckman No, Von Miller still destroyed Cam. And this call wasn't missed, it was spot on.

[@richt1750]

Sectric Lol. It doesn't matter what the booth said, they get it wrong too.

[@Ratfink820]

Still pisses me off to this day.

[@michaelcopp1208]

i was watching the super bowl as he caught it and they actually showed it in multiple different angles.. it never ever hit the ground and he did have control of the ball the entire time

[@MrBowlingX]

+Michael Copp ... sorry, but you are wrong. Here is a pic showing the ball hitting the ground and hand coming off ball, losing control. ... i147.photobucket.com/albums/r302/BertX2466/football/Crotchery-no-catch_zps2bsjt2gf.png

[@RB01.10]

Exactly. It was painfully obvious they wanted Manning to go out on top.

[@fatinthehat2024]

@@MrBowlingXlol this comment is so funny because you’re wrong and don’t know the rules

[@unitedfordc2706]

NFL never wanted the Panthers to win this game and it shows

[@Straw_Hat_11]

They did everything they could to make sure Manning went off into the sunset with a second ring. No one can change my mind on that.

[@ibemikeking]

This lives rent free in my head. It was a catch.

[@jackroman7668]

Huge blown call that essentially gave Denver the game. It doesn't even look like the ball hits the ground, the Denver player's helmet is what knocks the ball loose, and Cotchery still doesn't let it hit the ground after that. If they call this a catch, J Stew doesn't get banged up and would have been effective in the game, and that strip sack TD doesn't happen. NFL had to give old Peyton his magic ending. It's okay, Cam will be back next year.

[@ericworthington4893]

Jalen hurts is cam 2.0

[@fatinthehat2024]

@@ericworthington4893Jalen hurts 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 he had one decent year with literally the best surrounding team in the nfl by a mile. Dude is as mid as it gets

[@RB01.10]

That she’d like milk Can and the Panthers never recovered

[@mackxproductions3443]

This very play changed the whole gameeeee strip sack was this same drive

[@Ottosyn10]

If i remeber correctlt ir was the exact play after this or two plays later . Sad that most people dont even remember how they "Dez Bryant" us

[@user-hl8qi3id7f]

It was clearly a catch. Referee Cleat Blakeman wife was in full Denver Bronco gear in the commissioner box during the game. It’s all you need to say.

[@Ekh0es]

This game was rigged for Manning to go out as a winner and retire. Panthers should have won. They were the much better team.

[@tokoyotoz]

As a ravens fan im starting to slowly hate the nfl because of refs

[@aidanmartinez7263]

The panthers were not the better team. That “top offense of all time” could not break down that defense whatsoever

[@PanthersCentral704]

The Broncos no doubt had the better defense and we had the better offense. If anything we actually should've won this game if they had ruled this as a catch and Cam had jumped on the ball when he got strip sacked. I have a feeling that they did rig this game just for Peyton to get his ring which he didn't deserve because he was terrible during the regular season and was terrible in this game.

[@aidanmartinez7263]

@@PanthersCentral704 Peyton was serviceable, which is all that was necessary when you have one of the best defenses of all time. Don’t forget the panthers had the ball in the 4th only down 6 until cam fumbled it again. If that strip sack destroyed the panthers enough that they couldn’t recover again then they didn’t deserve to be champs anyways, no team should be that mentally weak

[@RB01.10]

@@aidanmartinez7263 Same thing with Atlanta the next year. After Matt Ryan fumbled, they chickened out the rest of the way. Their offense and defense disappeared after that play. That fumble changed the momentum right there.

[@brunoaltimino]

Bad call let's face it. Great catch by Cotchery. NFL wanted a Denver victory and the fix was in. The flag that was picked up against the Broncos late when the Panthers were driving proves this beyond any doubt.

[@adjunkin1]

Had to let Peyton ride off into the sunset.

[@boymaica387]

Frank J Altieri incorrect, That defense just didn’t give an inch.

[@cam8973]

@@boymaica387 thats bs bruh

[@dannyramp9289]

Jerricho the 🐐 nfl robbed him

[@freeamerican5353]

@@boymaica387 That’s total BS. That game was basically rigged so Peyton’s wife could stop taking HGH. 😂 How many times was Cam targeted and speared by Von Miller? Never a single flag 🙄

[@thomashayes7321]

hand was under the ball the whole time. the reason it wasn't over turned was because the replay official was from Denver with his wife sitting in the stands wearing a Denver jersey.

[@yman0524]

Down by contact before ball hits ground, had possession before ball hits ground. Complete pass.

[@brunoaltimino]

Bert, his hand was under the ball, blocking it from touching the ground. When he hit the ground, the ball moved but he maintained control at the end of the play. it was similar to Tyree's famous catch.

[@bryanward3177]

Reff is from Denver I rest my case

[@RB01.10]

I didn’t even know that then, but now I do, and WOW. No wonder it went Denver’s way. Also, they wanted Peyton to go out on top.

[@user-cv8wx8kr4d]

Von Miller never would've scored a sack on the next play and scored

[@leemblake]

that ref right there is new and evertime he is in broncos win completely biased officiating

[@gavinthompson2788]

Carolina wasn't a favorite all season until week 16, keep in mind they went fucking 15-1. It was Peyton's send off superbowl and unfortunately was never supposed to be Carolina's game, let alone Clete Blakeman's crooked ass.. Few understand the momentum that this call killed and the strip-sack happened almost immediately after. Blakeman is the Tim Donaghy of the NFL and I WILL NOT be surprised when something comes out about him after he's long retired/dead

[@bgaineybg]

The very next play was a HUGE swing in momentum

[@lahmike]

Nfl wants the broncos to win but it's not gonna happen

[@ashhathaway3254]

Hey good call! 👍🏻

[@sunamcmnairb]

+ash Hathaway 😆😆😆

[@Milehighsnake98]

+Mike Got Next The pussycats were in the wrong league....

[@djanthony10]

After the catch he made a football move when two feet hit the ground. So when that happens he had control when he hit the ground. This should be a catch

[@thalivinlegend11]

2 feet is not actually a football move either..a football move when hes making a legit move up the field to gain yards after showing complete control of the catch...

[@anthonyorgoglio1107]

I agree he made a football move and if people say he didn't then it would still be a catch his hands were under the ball and he had maintained possession of it

[@anthonyorgoglio1107]

+thalivinlegend11 true but if he plants two feet on the ground he's clearly gonna be turning

[@tdm1995]

+anthony orgoglio -- omg I am with you -- he totally controlled the ball on the way down, and if he had taken even one more step before going down, all this BS about the ball touching the ground would be moot. But I don't think we can make that argument though... i think he controlled the ball during mid-stride of step one, then took one more step, then was on the way down. I think NFL rules will say that does not fully constitute a "football move". The current rule does suck -- but I will ALWAYS believe this was a catch even under the current rules. Denver was not a good team; and Carolina wins this game if this was called a catch. It's strange that a wrong call so early in a game can skew an outcome like this one did. I do blame Carolina coaches and Cam for not getting beyond this (considering how early in the game this was); I mean -- just shake it off and play your game!! But still - in my mind -- if this is called a catch, denver gets blown out in the game. So - yeah, it sickens me that the headlines are how Denver spanked Carolina, when really the offensive and defensive stats show Carolina blew denver out of the water. Even on a night when Cam was not Cam. This was BAD juju. No way Denver wins this game without help from the officials.

[@anthonyorgoglio1107]

+tdm1995 my man it's true and yea he had control while going to the fround

[@chrisward8333]

first things first.. I am a Carolina fan... 2nd the ball clearly touches the ground... he didn't have complete control of the ball.. also, the officiating crew needs irrefutable evidence to overturn the call on the field, it wasn't there.

[@MrChosenOne757]

They need to start addressing shit like this

[@levi8781]

There’s a very good chance panthers would have won this game if the refs got this call right bc the momentum shifted and the von miller strip sack was couple plays after this. Remember the score was 10-16 in the 4th quarter panthers had the ball with 4 mins left so take away that strip sack panthers would’ve been up by 1 point and who knows what would’ve happened at that point.

[@AlexCole272]

Hands is under the ball, as long as your hand is under the ball, the ball can touch the ground. This is when rules beats common sense. After this, I knew Denver was going to win.

[@RB01.10]

5 years later, I’m still not over this call even though I’m not a Panther fan. It was painfully obvious after this call that Peyton had to go out on top.

[@stopbeingakeyboardkillermo4112]

The ball never hit the ground!

[@Milehighsnake98]

+StopBeingAKeyBoardKiller&MousePadMobster! Yes it did.

[@itijgioj4218]

+StopBeingAKeyBoardKiller&MousePadMobster! Look/pause at 0:22. The nose of the football hits the ground

[@stopbeingakeyboardkillermo4112]

ITIJGIOJ That ball was caught, it's ok we all know NFL wanted Peyton to win so they spot him 7 points.Shout out to Von Miller tho he was a true MVP!

[@itijgioj4218]

StopBeingAKeyBoardKiller&MousePadMobster! Ok buddy, keep rocking your tin foil hat. The ball hit the ground at 0:22, and since replay officials have to be 100% sure they can overturn a call in order to do so, they had to let the call stand as incomplete.

[@stopbeingakeyboardkillermo4112]

ITIJGIOJ Hey everyone said the ball never hit the ground. It was a catch, with that said Von Miller was a beast and did deserve the MVP sometimes calls go your way sometimes they don't but from ESPN to FOX sports everyone says that was a catch!

[@SteveJones379]

I was pulling for the Broncos...but this was a "Pure FAILURE" by the referee review panel. It's understandable that a very few calls can be inaccurate by the refs on the field, but when it goes up for review...they should get it right 100% if the camera angles show the ball the whole time. This play showed the ball the entire time....The review panel "FAILED" miserably in this case. If inaccuracies by refs on the field can't be corrected by the review panel, what's the point in having a review panel? Maybe the review panel is blind, lazy, or incompetent.

[@LRA.G5]

Now yall understand why cowboy fans were mad about that Dez call

[@traxagenda3445]

That ball touched the ground though. This one did not. His hand was under it the whole time

[@KidJames81]

Super Bowl 50 was rigged. Roughing the passer on Cam and never called. Passing interference on Denver and never called. The Broncos defense jumped 3 time and never called offside. And Cotchery catch ruled incomplete.

[@DuffyJ1111]

Most ridiculous call in a Super Bowl ever. Please compare this with the Dez catch be my guest and we can have a discussion.

[@jamisoncowings2218]

Super bowl 50 was so rigged

[@RB01.10]

Rivals #40 in being rigged. Seahawks got screwed in that game too. Seattle should be at least 2-1 in the Super Bowl (should’ve beaten New England as well) instead of 1-2.

[@Demcrookedteeth]

Number one..... his hand was under the ball when he made the catch, it does appear that it might have made contact with the ground but non the less his hand was under the ball when he first made the catch. Number two.... the ball did moved as he turned so I would say that would be an incomplete pass BUT he regains possession of the ball a second time and from this angle it seems as though it never touched the groud. Making it a completed pass. Number 3..... From this angle, it looks like it might have been a catch. But from all the NFL's cameras this was the only angle they could provide? I don't think so. Conclusion; after this play Newton was sacked and Denver's defence scored a touchdown. So by not making the right call to begin with it affected the whole trajectory of this game. I'm a Green Bay Packer fan, so I remain unbiased to the call. But I really think this was a bad call from the refs. My opinion of course. And like I said there aren't any other angles to analyse this play from. Making it a difficult one to confirm it as a cath or not. But to me it was a catch.

[@kenbrooks2679]

Using the logic implied here, about 50% of the catches made in the NFL should be ruled incomplete.

[@jcholbrook]

Such a FIX! Absolute GARBAGE! It changed the entire game.

[@applebeesonmeth6952]

If the ball never hits the ground how is it incomplete? Such a bs game

[@mikey9277]

Pain

[@patrickegan6203]

Cam was stripped for a Denver touchdown the next play btw

[@josh9180]

The nose of the ball barely touched the ground on the first roll. On the second roll, it didn't. Am I wrong? I think I'm probably right or wrong! It's 50-50 for me! I usually get it right! At 0:22 of this video, it looks like the ball's nose touches the turf.

[@georgiaguardian4696]

It's pretty clear that the hand is under the ball at all time though the ball still seems to touch the ground at one point. I'd rule it a complete catch.

[@MrBowlingX]

+George Phillips .. actually it is pretty clear that he did NOT keep hand "under the ball" after hitting the ground ... i147.photobucket.com/albums/r302/BertX2466/football/Crotchery-no-catch_zps2bsjt2gf.png

[@lazerthebeastsanchez9242]

OK he has control of the ball with his elbow n the defenders helmet.. INCOMPLETE!!!!!!

[@MIXINGBOWLMAN]

This shit was FIXED

[@bomtrady5595]

fr

[@tdm1995]

Eventually - there will be a view of this play that will show CLEARLY that Cotchery had a finger under the tip of the ball; that the ball never touched the ground. And at that point, you gotta put an asterisk behind this denver win. Cuz if Cam gets that completion, not only does Denver NOT get the almost immediate strip-sack-td, but you have Cam now likely mentally settled early in the 1st Q. ( He threw at least 2 awful passes before this one -- nerves? - and this was his 1st nice throw.) So it becomes a completely different game, IMO. And one where Denver is not at all likely to win. This play right here is the difference in the game. Sucks how this BS can happen in a super bowl. Still -- the Panthers had plenty of time to recover from this bad call -- it's really a shame they didn't get beyond this injustice.

[@ezekwu]

facts...

[@waynemoore8811]

Didn't Carolina lose by like 14 points? Lmao. You guys are cry baby idiots who can't even do math.

[@MrBowlingX]

Clearly the ball contacts the ground at :21-:22 time index, then bounces to move up by Crotchery's elbow. Surprising that game announcers did not see this and made so many people surprised by the incomplete pass ruling stand after replay review.

[@humblebeast0041]

+Bert Hager his hand was under the ball which means its a catch plus it didn't move a lot when it hit the ground watch football you should know that was a catch if your hand is under the ball

[@Milehighsnake98]

+PantherNFL 00 How was his hand under the ball when his hand was on the side of the ball? The call was perfect.

[@MrBowlingX]

+PantherNFL 00 ... by your own words, (1) "when it hit the ground" and (2) "it didn't move much" are the key points to getting this call right. If the ball contacts the ground and player loses control then the pass is incomplete. If you go frame-by-frame :22-:23, watching the seams on the football, it moves up towards Crotchery's elbow and rotates too. He did not maintain control.

[@humblebeast0041]

Do you watch or play football because obviously his hand was under the ball and during contact the ball didn't move much which would have made it incomplete if it was to move a lot also ass he roled he had the ball to where it didn't hit the ground the ref who looked at the replay said it was a catch then the said it wasn't a catch and took the ref that said it was a catch out of the game even refs watching the game +players said that was a catch

[@MrBowlingX]

+PantherNFL 00 .. here is a close up pic, when the ball has contacted the ground and Crotchery is losing control. Can't you see that? Seriously?!?! ... i147.photobucket.com/albums/r302/BertX2466/football/Crotchery-no-catch_zps2bsjt2gf.png

[@georgecaragiannides3464]

it was a catch

[@tdm1995]

Yeah -- our Panthers did suck Sunday night. Usually the Panthers are good enough to destroy the other team while at the same time destroying the officials that were doin everything they can do to undermine the Panthers. On Sunday, the panthers let us down. We found out there are occasions the team cannot do both. And that's all I got to say about that.

[@tdm1995]

but it's time to move on. Panthers in 2016-17. We'll probably not meet a team easier to beat than the Broncos, but whatever.

[@kojosmith1210]

I just came back to this video because I'm still mad

[@chewyyo3383]

He tucked the ball intentionally and didn't even wobble as he hit the ground he had full control as he was falling down

[@starmaster191]

i was rooting for Denver to win this game and even i thought that the Cotchery catch was a catch. This is similar to how James White td run in overtime in sb 51, if you'll notice on that run he has a knee down before the ball crosses the plane of the goal line.

[@stefaniesykes877]

It was complete!!!And the play after Von Miller knocked it out of cams hand for the touchdown I hate that ref

[@kevinjlewis8096]

exactly!

[@lazerthebeastsanchez9242]

Tyrese used side of his helmet but controlled the ball with his hand

[@brunoaltimino]

it was a catch. Ball did not hit the ground.

[@MrBowlingX]

+Frank J Altieri ... No, the ball clearly hit the ground causing loss of control by Cotchery ... see it right here. i147.photobucket.com/albums/r302/BertX2466/football/Crotchery-no-catch_zps2bsjt2gf.png

[@admiredskydiver9706]

Um.... did anybody research were that ref was from? He came from OMAHA ( yes that is a real place ) and whenever he refs the Broncos games the Broncos win. Also before the game Peyton and him were talking so clearly the only reason Denver won superbowl 50 was for Peyton to retire on a superbowl win

[@2easydesigns]

I would say that it's a catch based on his control of it going down... but I've seen worse calls than this. It happens.

[@solomonkessington8136]

I want the Broncos to win but that was a bullshit call. I'm a Steelers fan and hate Jerricho for leaving the Steel City but he had control of it. This is ridiculous.

[@noahsurma2014]

Don't hate somebody for some stupid reason.

[@noahsurma2014]

Otherwise I agree.

[@solomonkessington8136]

DaFireFox FarCry I said I hate him for leaving not as a person. You can also ask LeBron and Steph haters too about that biggot.

[@pinkkennedy02]

catch...and yes it played a factor in the outcome. How could it not?

[@connorpowell8558]

ya two plays later Von Miller Strip-Sack TD

[@jkallday52]

Totally took away any momentum they had

[@joelc8090]

The Cotchery Catch (aka the Cotch Botch) was the clear turning point in the game. Anyone could tell that was a catch, commentators on screen, NFL broadcast officials, etc. It was called incomplete and with Carolina backed up, two plays later was the strip-sack fumble TD that gave Denver a 10-0 lead. If called correctly, the Panthers have a first down and even if a fumble occurred two plays later it wouldn't have resulted in a TD from the 40 yard line. Even worse, is the replay official was a guy by they name of Jimmy Oldham who lives in the Denver area and whose wife was out the game as a die-hard Denver fan. There are even photos of her with head official Clete Blakeman at a Super Bowl after party. Again, easily researched by google and stinks to high hell that the NFL allowed a likely Denver fan to be the head replay official in a Super Bowl.

[@RB01.10]

I did not know that until now, 5 years later. But that is criminal and conflict of interest if you ask me. No wonder he called the way it happened. They also wanted to have Peyton go out on top.

[@levi8781]

Dude Super Bowl 50 might be the most rigged Super Bowl ever it’s so obvious im surprised no one on KZbin has done a breakdown of this

[@sickofguysnamedtodd2293]

And the Broncos have been trash ever since this game and haven’t had a playoff appearance or competent quarterback since. Poetic justice. They deserve to suck after this game was handed to them.

[@THEGINYUFORCESJEICE]

Shitty, fixed SB. The ball at no point hit the ground, look at the front view. He had his hand under it the ENTIRE time. 1:10

[@THEGINYUFORCESJEICE]

And before you Broncos fans say that it didn't lead to Cam getting sacked and shit, true, it didn't. However this right here could've put doubt in the Panthers players thinking the refs were against them, and chances are, if this was marked as the catch it blatantly was, the Panthers may have sparked momentum and marched down the field on the first drive of the game.

[@StrongLikeBullTV]

Catch!

[@markbensley138]

not the only wrong call either. von miller was lined up in the neutral zone on like 60 percent of his snaps. including his sacks. watch the game again and you will see. Ron Rivera was pissed it wasn't getting called.

[@guyincognito2512]

If the ball hits the ground it has to be secure through the whole play. Sure his hand was under and it hit the ground but he didn't have control

[@guyincognito2512]

No, you still need control. Ala Dez Bryant. Tell me what football move did he do?

[@corallopez1068]

it was a catch I'm neither a panthers or broncos fan even professionals said it was a catch

[@guyincognito2512]

and some professionals said it wasn't.

[@00ghostcobra]

+Guy Incognito At no point did any part of the ball touch the ground, so how in the world could it have been called an incomplete pass.

[@guyincognito2512]

At 0:22 the ball clearly hits the ground. You cannot lose control after that point and needs to be secure from that point on, which he obviously does not.

[@RIF241]

I didnt see the ball hit the ground. His hand and his other arm was under the ball.

[@noahsurma2014]

+anthony orgoglio "dumb"

[@cpac97]

There is another shot that shows the ball never touched the ground.. Also funny that the replay official is from Denver and wife in the stands wearing a Denver jersey. Given all the other facts that came out since the Panthers were never gonna win this game . NFL made sure to have their fairy tale ending.. You will never beat the refs no matter what you do...

[@hatecrimes1455]

0:22 my dude

[@Rex-gk3nk]

+HateCrimes his knee hit the ground before the ball did dumbass

[@cpac97]

Its not about the ball moving Its about him keeping the ball as he rolls over and the ball never touches the ground after he regains control at the very end of the play. thats a catch! He keeps possession of the ball thru the whole process as i understand it the ground can not cause a fumble . www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/25480469/inside-the-nfl-reveals-crushing-info-for-panthers-about-jerricho-cotchery-non-catch

[@54silent70]

+cpac97 But the ground assisted in making the catch, which makes it not a catch. It hit the ground and moved like 12" across his chest, no way this is a catch.

[@roeni1020]

where did you see ball hit the ground? I bet you didn't even watch replay end 1:14 @@54silent70

[@camse7en]

Its over with....no im sayin?

[@nathenism]

the refs cheated for denver...after this bad call and the subsequent turnover i stopped watching the game

[@averageasian292]

This sport is violent and fast. Tough to make rules on so many variables. On the eye test it's a catch but with the call on the field and overturn rules it's tough to say otherwise. Also.. skins fan here. Dez also made that clutch catch. I was never the same football fan after that call.

[@gggggghhhaaa]

his elbow hit before the ball touched the ground which should have ruled him down. This was a bad call. Fact

[@MrElevenbravo]

in order for it to be a catch the receiver must maintain possession. the ball hit the ground and he lost possession.....the play was bang bang and there was not enough evidence to overturn it...if it was ruled a catch it would have stayed a catch. thats just how it goes in football. please dont act like patriots fans and start making excuses...denver was just the better team.

[@gggggghhhaaa]

Jarrod Darnell i dont know about that. i think they just played better that day. Carolina dominated up to that point in the season

[@MrElevenbravo]

+Grant Golke Carolina also had a much easier schedule...denver would have been 15-1 also in that division. they did exactly as i predicted they would do. and they will do it again game 1 next year.

[@gggggghhhaaa]

Jarrod Darnell with what offense?

[@MrElevenbravo]

+Grant Golke with the same offence that beat you the first time lol.

[@elyarsamadi]

never had a full control, what are you talking about? Ignoring the fact doenst change the reality and on top of that, they gain the momentum after the touch down but couldnt hold it. They played terrible because it was almost their first game entire season they played with a 4X4 team functioning team throw out the game. They were lucky whole year.

[@lakerskid2013]

Panthers were having momentum before that happened, then when this bogus call occurred (might be one of the most underrated bad calls ever) they just couldn’t seem to recover from it the rest of the game. It was clearly a catch, ball never touched the ground and he regained possession even when it moved

[@RB01.10]

Not only that but the fumble after killed their momentum too

[@mostlyharmless7834]

Ball was not in full control when his knee hit the ground NFL rules one knee with contact equals player ruled down. Also this is slow motion video of the play so actual time of control of the ball is very momentary

[@ransomdev14]

Just because the ball TOUCHES the ground doesn’t mean it isn’t a catch but we don’t know what a catch is in the nfl

[@lakerskid2013]

Devyn Ransom I’m surprised I haven’t heard more people talk about this play. This to me isn’t quite as bad as Dez Bryant’s robbery but still this was the momentum changer. Carolina was not themselves after this play. Not saying they could’ve won it all if they called it complete which I believe it was, but they would’ve had a very good chance to win against Denver

[@golapd]

The ball hit the ground and moves. Every time that happens it's incomplete. The ball can touch the ground but when a receiver has control it doesn't move.

[@stevetyrell8721]

Ball never touched the ground

[@markbensley138]

his hand was under the ball. therefore it didn't hit the ground

[@brianchua4240]

Some people think that the refs were in the Panther's favor. Idk, maybe, but, I could say that the pressure may have finally hit carolina to the point where they had penalty after penalty after penalty That play may have been the turning point and I think the NFL needs to do something about this 'catch' rule And after hearing the commentators and that retired official for CBS say it was a catch, sheesh

[@guyincognito2512]

+Brian Chua If the ball hits the ground it has to be secure through the whole play. Sure his hand was under and it hit the ground but he didn't have control

[@agent0430]

Who here after bucs beat the chiefs

[@knowledgeseeker2334]

this horrible call put Carolina in a 0 - 10 hole. da ball never touched da ground

[@itijgioj4218]

+Knowledge Seeker Yeah, it did at 0:22. It barely did, but it still did nonetheless. The nose of the ball hitting the ground there was probably enough to warrant letting the incomplete pass call stand. What everyone seems to be forgetting here is that the replay officials need to be 100% sure that a call can be overturned before overturning it. The ball hitting the ground at the 22 second mark put enough doubt in their minds to not overturn the call. Also, don't blame the refs for Cam fumbling the ball later.

[@jeremianderson4861]

+ITIJGIOJ If this was ruled a catch the score with 4 minutes left in the game would be 10 - 9 Panthers instead of 16 - 10 Broncos. Remember only two plays after this was Cam's first fumble which lead to a 2 yard scoop and score instead of a turnover at midfield.

[@jeremianderson4861]

+Jeremi Anderson At this point the Panthers would have tried to milk the clock instead of the pass attempt that Cam fumbled that led to another short field touchdown.

[@yaesukita]

Look at 21 and 22 frames. 2-3 inches of the ball is in contact with the ground (even though the majority of the ball is in his hand). The recoil from impact with the ground causes the ball to bobble he gets possession after this. The issue is whether or not he had possession at 21 and 22. In slow mo it appears to be stable in his hand but the hands are moving. That possession before 21 and 22 is not entirely clear and they need very clear evidence to overturn the call on the field.

[@RaymondJonesrejlive]

@ 0:21 (little earlier than Robert Ledo) Nose of the ball hits the ground, ball is lose for a second, the commentators surprised me when they missed that.

[@tt7259]

+Raymond Jones Although you misspelled loose, I agree!

[@RaymondJonesrejlive]

Tom Thompson correct the lose part came later ;)

[@RaymondJonesrejlive]

was incomplete yow ming

[@RaymondJonesrejlive]

The shit they talked, just set up the Denver Peyton Mannings for the win

[@RaymondJonesrejlive]

Molly>Skip, Steven A

[@tdm1995]

That is a catch. The only people that are saying that is NOT a catch are bronco fans and/or people paid by bronco fans to say it was NOT a catch. It was a Catch. And if it is a catch, well the broncos lose - pretty badly too. So, since it WAS a catch, the bronco's lost that game. That's how I will always choose to interpret the outcome of this game. If I'm at a trivia game in 20 years when the question comes up -- "who won super bowl 50?" I will always answer "It wasn't the broncos."

[@MrBowlingX]

+tdm1995 ... OK, if ... and it is an "if" because this pass was incomplete, that had been a catch then Carolina would still just be up to their own 38 yard line. Not a real big deal. That does NOT make "the Broncos lose - pretty badly". Time to end your fantasy, admit Panthers lost fairly this time and move on to next season.

[@tdm1995]

+Bert Hager - there's another post of mine somewhere deeper in this thread from a couple days ago. here's why this play makes ALL the difference: Cam was really really bad until this particular throw. It was a good throw. It was a completion. Until it wasn''t. Cam was poopy until this throw. I truly believe if Cam gets this completion -- he immediately becomes normal Cam. Not to mention there is absolutely no chance of the strip-6 that immediately happened after this fkd up call. Denver had no offense at all - all night. Give us a normal Cam - our offense would have blown those boys away. The defenses were basically evenly matched. I believe, deep down in my soul, that if this particular play is a completion, the game would have looked so much different. Seriously. I may have mentioned -- I thought the panthers were mature enough to get beyond this one sheeity call, shake this one play off --- which would have made a win super-spectacular. But to my dismay, I think this particular play took a lot of life out of our Panthers. I don't really understand it. Maybe one day we will hear more about this. Bottom line - I thought Panthers were good enough to overcome this bad call, so really - am more mad at the coaches for not figuring out how to get beyond this. But my mind still sees what would have happened if this had been called a completion. I really don't wanna think about this any more. too sad. There IS next yr,

[@tdm1995]

- a final thought... i have watched every panthers game over the last 4 or 5 yrs. When cam first came on board, he had a terrible habit of throwing too high. And it happened early in the super bowl again. As if no one noticed. The original issue was Cam throwing completely overhand -- he only found his accuracy once he went a little side-arm. Like maybe 7/8 overhand. I think when he's nervous, he reverts back to completely overhand. I wish one of the coaches would finally teach him to just give up that overhand BS. It sucks.

[@jeffreybell251]

just face it, the refs gave this one to manning. let's get past it and let manning have his retirement

[@Playstationsrule]

ref cheat!

[@style3d]

At 0:21 you can see that the ball hit the ground. At one point the ball was vertical and you can even see the bottom tip of the ball well into the grass. That being said, all NFL games are Fixed. Why do you think NFL is registered an Entertainment (i.e. WWE) and not a Sport? So they can rig the results.

[@maestrodicethrow471]

Still hurts

[@anthonyquinn5927]

That was totally a catch

[@Kalomamayfield]

That was a FREAKEN catch

[@robbierosson5574]

I actually think it was loose not a complete catch and I’m a panthers fan

[@ericg582]

Ball hit the ground and moved. Incomplete. What’s the issue?

[@PoliticallyAffiliated]

You gotta ask yourself, what caused the ball to come loose and roll over his body? That's right, the ground, the tip of the ball hit the ground which caused the ball to jar loose and almost hit the ground for a second time.

[@anthonyorgoglio1107]

Yea that's what you have to ask yourself but also the denvers players helmet hit it a bit and made it move also

[@GrassValleyGreg]

That's what's tricky about catches in the NFL, it *can* hit the ground if the player has control of it first and *maintains control*. I don't believe he ever quite had control of it.

[@clintmurray9815]

If this video were the only evidence I would agree with the decision. The last replay that CBS ran shows the ball completely from the other angle. This replay makes it look like the ball touches the ground. In the other replay you can see the ball clearly from the other side. It does not touch the ground. I was pulling for Denver, but this should have been ruled a catch. This replay is good enough to demonstrate that the ball doesn't touch the ground before Cotchery rolls over, but you need to see the video from the other side to prove that it doesn't touch the ground at the end of the roll.

[@pkiknex]

+Clint Murray For fun's sake, I'll argue that the last replay doesn't show enough to over-turn the call on the field. Yes, you see his left hand touching the ground while underneath the ball. But then you lose sight of the ball when his right hand, arm, and rest of his torso comes down. Going back to the first replay, you again see the left hand touching the ground while underneath the ball. BUT... a split second later is when the ball rotates and the tip arguably touches the ground. You don't see that in the last replay because it's blocked from view, which means that it's not indisputable evidence toward a completed catch since you can't see the entire process.

[@clintmurray9815]

+pkiknex25, the replay I am referring to involves the replays that CBS aired right after the ref upheld the call. They played the view posted here, where you do lose sight of the ball. In the last replay they aired it shows the ball from the other side, the side we can't see in this video. You can see the ball all the way as Cotchery rolls over. The ball was loose and headed toward the ground, but Cotchery pulled it back just before touching the ground. I don't think the refs saw that replay. CBS needed to do a slo-mo replay of that.

[@humblebeast0041]

+pkiknex25 did you not watch the whole video because it clearly shows the view from the last role this ref does this all the time at broncos games and hes from Nebraska they have a big bronco fan base out there

[@pkiknex]

+PantherNFL 00 Ummm, did you not read my comment because I clearly said and described the "last replay" that this video shows. +Clint Murray So there was another replay CBS showed that didn't make this video? Okay.

[@humblebeast0041]

It was at the end of the video what can u not see tf

[@SDC1955]

If this call was reversed the Panthers would have won the game. It blew the spark out of Newton. Peyton did nothing all game.

[@idealizt2478]

Clear catch. Ball might've touched the ground, but it never moved the ball. Cotchery had possession and control throughout contact with the ground. The ball only moved when the defender's helmet touched it (after the ball seemingly touched the ground while Cotchery maintained possession and control).

[@inbigsa]

rules states if there is doubt...then it's incomplete

[@itijgioj4218]

+inbigsa And rules also state that if a review is not 100% certain that they can overturn a call, they leave it as called on the field. So, the fact that people can argue about it this much just shows that they were right to let the call stand.

[@skinnertracey85]

JERRICHO COTCHERY IS MY REAL BLOOD UNCLE

[@TheMickeymental]

I do not like the Panthers and I thought it was a catch. It was still early in the game.

[@noahsurma2014]

I love the panthers for one reason Jared Allen

[@RB01.10]

And they still folded like a house of cards after this

[@brunoaltimino]

Bert I watched it over and over, the ball never touched the ground.

[@MrBowlingX]

+Frank J Altieri ... Here is a pic showing the ball hitting the ground and hand coming off ball ... i147.photobucket.com/albums/r302/BertX2466/football/Crotchery-no-catch_zps2bsjt2gf.png ... next if you go frame-by-frame it is easy to see he lost control as the ball bounces up towards his hip while the seams on ball are rotating.

[@odeltrebor]

The ball CLEARLY hit the ground @ 0:22. Not sure how anyone could miss that.

[@humblebeast0041]

+Robert Ledo his hand was under the ball every ref and player that was watching even the head of the refs said it was a catch

[@guyincognito2512]

+PantherNFL 00 If the ball hits the ground it has to be secure through the whole play. Sure his hand was under but he didn't have control

[@C_Papi]

+Guy Incognito BUT IT DIDNT TOUCH THE GROUND!

[@anthonyorgoglio1107]

nigga his fingers were under the ball lmao😂

[@Milehighsnake98]

+anthony orgoglio How were his fingers under the ball when his hand was on the side of the ball?

[@JPNTHR07]

How is that so called incompleted pass deferent from patriots completed pass with the falcons at superbowl 51

[@mrsofreshsoclean8174]

The people complaining just flat out don't know their shit! Simple as that!! Ball touched the ground and even tho I don't think the ground caused the ball to move, it DID move and that's all that matters. If the ball didn't move at all, it would have been a catch! This was the right call!!

[@anthonyorgoglio1107]

It was a catch denvers players helmet tapped it and made it move a bit

[@mrsofreshsoclean8174]

anthony orgoglio It doesn't matter what caused the movement. All that matters is that the ball moved after touching the ground!!

[@Rex-gk3nk]

+MR soFRESH soCLEAN HIS KNEE HIT THE GROUND

[@mrsofreshsoclean8174]

Rex Newton Annnnnnddd??? Clearly u just don't know the rules!

[@gggggghhhaaa]

clearly you don't know the rules mr lambert. his knee and elbow were down before the ball touched the ground. the fact that it touched the ground shouldn't have mattered because the play was already over

[@michaelcopp1208]

it definitly was a catch

[@crownkearney961]

The ball hit the ground while cotchery had has hand under the ball covering

[@fruitbythefoote]

This is just another example of the Calvin Johnson rule in effect.

[@W0rldxChampi0n]

it looked like a catch to me lol