When Ambrose And Murphy Went Nose-To-Nose

Awesome Bathurst Moment #15 is a rumble on the Mountain between two intense rivals ...

[@lordshankracing4724]

Can we all agree that no matter who's side you're on, it was a bloody good moment. That's real racing right there.

[@andosrailway2369]

Can't call it racing when one of the driver almost sent other over side the wall and crash into the bush.

[@djfunkycraig]

Just a little rubbin harry, rubbins racing!!

[@kw5732]

I agree since Ambrose is nowhere and Murph got another drive at Bathurst this year

[@Alexeggers380]

That chopper shot is bang on, even as a Holden fan, and a kiwi, Murphy had no intention of making that corner at all.

[@mootkickee]

Jason Richards was so unlucky on multiple occasions at the mountain. Think he had two 2nds and a 3rd. The bloke was a weapon behind the wheel, so underrated

[@romiarkan450]

"AMBROSE HAS HAD A MASSIVE SHUNT! AMBROSE HAS HAD A MASSIVE SHUNT!"

[@Ward1706]

"SO: GREG MURPHY'S INVOLVED! MORE CARS! THE TRACK IS JAMMED! THE TRACK! IS! JAMMED!" "Could you believe that?! That was HUGE!"

[@F1Kamel_1992]

My word, this was my first Bathurst 1000 memory and watched the whole drama unfold on French Television. Amazing stuff

[@weston9106]

3:10 "CAHBAN FOYBAH"

[@felixnewman2473]

In reflection they kept us entertained and a great moment.

[@didgereemedia194]

One of the most infamous moments EVER!

[@jarradghent4746]

I'll remember that day forever, a day where my heart was broken for Ambrose.

[@nhraandnascarfanatic5907]

Why?? All year long he was cheap shotting people left, right and centre… Murphy gave him a taste of his own medicine. I reckon good on him! 👍

[@FlashoftheBlades]

@@nhraandnascarfanatic5907Stone Bros Racing certainly got a dose of its own medicine that day. Especially after Eastern Creek 2003.

[@alexferreira5360]

Was never a massive fan of Ambrose.. but I never thought Murph was racing that was 100% dodgem car stuff

[@petergrundy8081]

Murphy nailed him

[@mrirace926]

Two absolute legends of the sport. Wish Ambrose stuck around instead of coming to the US.

[@michaelbrady616]

i am a Holden fan but Murphy definitely caused this

[@staticman1263]

He had the inside line and was far enough up. Just because Ambrose is blind.

[@ColtSSR]

I am a knuckle dragger... ok ok I hear ya.

[@tiprat5051]

@@staticman1263 no. He wasn't far enough up.he tagged Ambrose's left rear tyre

[@staticman1263]

@@tiprat5051 Nose of the car was at the B pillar and Ambrose turned in. Murph had room. Ambrose closed the door. May not have seen him or may have tried to shut him out. 6:40 Under the K on Pertek you can see the tire rub mark from Murphs front right tire. That puts his nose at the B pillar giving him the right to the corner.

[@tiprat5051]

@@staticman1263 Yeah there is a mark there but unfortunately that's not where the contact started its started further back. It's just something that could have been avoided

[@falconmclenny7284]

WHY WILL I NEVER BE AS GOOD AS YOU MARCUS! is what murf was yelling.

[@nhraandnascarfanatic5907]

Bathurst wins for Murph - 4 Bathurst wins for Ambrose - 0! 👌 Even Paul “The Dud” Morris can turn around and say he has one in the bank… just let that sink in abit buddy

[@falconmclenny7284]

@@nhraandnascarfanatic5907 Murphy snitched about the balaclava, we all know it. How many titles has Murphy got champ? And when murph was put in Craig lowndes all conquering car for a season, he was quickly found out.. unless it's pukekohe or Bathurst, he just isn't that good. Let that sink in buddy. And every single Bathurst Murphy has to his name, he won with a better driver than himself. Lowndes was 10 times the driver, richaeds was half as good as his dad and still twice as good as Murphy, and even Kelly, the most undeserving champion in Australian touring car history, was better than Murphy. I'll just give you a minute to let all that sink in. Buddy. Hard to win a Bathurst when a deickhead Like murph smacks you in to a wall.. buddy.

[@nhraandnascarfanatic5907]

@@falconmclenny7284 Wow… hard words from a man with such soft skin. It’s not difficult to wind up Ambrose supporters, not that there even wind ups. Their facts… I’m neither a Murphy fan or an Ambrose fan. But Ambrose was a grub mate! Very rarely did his victories come from clean skilful driving. And this is well documented. And as for the balaclava, yeah Murphy probably did snitch on Ambrose… so what.. wouldn’t you?.. rules are rules and unfortunately Marcos was arrogant enough to think he was above them… kind of makes you wonder how many other times he was unknowingly breaking code… bit like 888 with their little ice box stunt in new castle 😏 … BUDDY!

[@weburnitatbothends]

Murrph and Ambrose two great racing attitudes, full respect for both

[@cokeaddict1663]

Ambrose was and always will be a grub of a race driver even in nascar he was a grub

[@FLAME4564]

This i remember so well O.O DAMN that crash was really epic and brutal at the same time :D.

[@NxDoyle]

This was on Murphy really. He just wouldn't back off. It wasn't a racing incident. It wasn't 50/50. It was bloody-minded and ultimately, Murphy was very lucky that Ambrose didn't go over the barrier into the bush.

[@ryanthunderhammer9970]

Leigh Diffey is a great commentator!

[@robertjohnson3514]

I was going to comment this! He's awesome. As a long time Indycar fan, I know his voice anywhere!

[@alicia1998ism]

I remember watching this on tv I was 14 and still clearly remember it

[@robayom1752]

4:53 "We need to know what triggered it" I'd say it Murphy's arrogance that triggered it...

[@jesseb619]

This is where my heart sunk when i was little kid watching this... both my dad, and both my friends dad lost it. hands in the air.. F bombs thrown... F**k me ill never forget this moment.

[@joemama1151]

I think Murphy hit the car in front of him in the middle of turn 2 which slowed him enough for Ambrose to drive by him on the right. The 2 of them may have made contact late exit of 2 but it was clear that Murphy had no intention of making turn 3. He dumped Ambrose intentionally and himself in the process.

[@Woodrow19]

Id never seen the chopper shot before. Murph should've braked or turned. Looked like he was trying to tag Ambrose there

[@markmark5269]

Murphy would go back to his team and say, yeah, even though you pay me lots of money I backed off even though I was on the inside and up to the B pillar.

[@Jaymar90]

B Pillar doesn't start at the rear wheel mate.

[@markmark5269]

I suggest you freeze it at 4:30. Look at the car's shadows, that shows the true positioning. At any rate, Ambrose turned in apparently believing he was clear, he was not.

[@mattmurphy2497]

@@markmark5269 Looking at shadows for true positon? Are you high?

[@AlonsoRules]

ambrose should have backed off and taken the points for the championship

[@MotoringBoxTV]

In 2018 I am still wondering why Murph stopped after the crash? His car looks spotless and didn't appear to have any steering or suspension damage.

[@Thebibs]

Broken left front suspension/steering

[@Ward1706]

Just to square up to Ambrose I suspect. I heard it said that car #51 was towed off the track then driven back to the pits with no mechanical problem.

[@jibikart3828]

Guilt.

[@jordanlyngen9316]

Probably retired thinking the stewards would park him for that move anyway lol

[@1sneaky1a]

had a busted shock and steering arm it was not driven back

[@ifireblade09]

100% on Murphy. Marcos didn't brake check him, and they never released Murphy's cam - showing that he didn't brake but just accelerated into him.

[@FordFalconAu]

Ahh this is when murphy got a grilling off Kees weel for not driving his drivable car back to the pits...

[@TotnumMatt]

did he?? Cause I have always been annoyed that his car didn't look too bad and assumed it was still drivable.

[@didgereemedia194]

I remember this so much!!!!

[@SuperWesty177]

same i was 8 years old haha

[@samuelh1277]

This brings back so many memories, watching the sport as a kid and playing v8 supercars 2 and 3 oh what a time, so many great looking liverys 😍

[@mvp4lithuania]

That seems like quite a drop behind that not so high a barrier. Phew

[@stephanmashiter8421]

I have never forgiven Murphy for this. He could have killed Marcus and rather then apologise he gets angry with Ambrose. After that I couldn't stand to see him on TV and still can't. Channel 10 thinks he is the greatest thing since sliced bread but I can only remember the Bathurst crash :( :( He also wiped out everyone behind chances of of a better result. He is an arse wipe in my opinion.

[@AidanMillward]

Ambrose tags Murphy, Murphy retaliates.

[@KoeingseggCCM]

I wish I could watch this race, in full AND as it happened. That' s my only regret.

[@CamaroThings]

Supercars is airing in on KZbin this coming weekend. June 12, 2021

[@hardyakka888]

Murphy is trying to clear a backmarker, looses speed, Ambrose has a run on Murphy and light side to side contact was made, Ambrose was 75% past Murphy at the next corner, turns in and contact was made. The queston will always be, did murphy have any intention of making the next corner, knowing that he did not like Ambrose, has been involved in lots of hot head never lift of incidents in the past, and the fact he was going strait when he should have been turing left, I know the Answer.

[@jdplaysgaming370]

then would that me it was greg murphys fault

[@marcussimo2004]

Chris Kneafsey if you pause at the right moment in the helicopter shot you can see the front of Murphy’s car turning right into Ambrose

[@carlito0143]

The car on the inside had no intention of turning at the next left hander...

[@paulrodrigues5562]

You sure it wasn't 74.4 percent? Bias

[@KaloMorace]

Murphy intentionally caused that accident, no doubt, has no place on a race track IMHO.

[@Rob_0-4]

1:42 this is some good old Australian Telly

[@oxnist]

as a Holden fan , I can tell ya Murph didn't even steer left, sorry Murph, but you were at fault in my view, rubbin might be racin, but fair go bloke. Both of these guys have an Ego, and they are both talented drivers. but if ya wanna see how the really good drivers do it, take a look at the likes of Brock, Lowndes, Johnson, Richards, Grice, Moffat and other real champs . "Professional courtesy" , and at the end of the day, if ya have a better car, and more talent, you'll win anyway, rant over.

[@tharres09]

no love for whincup? :(

[@TotnumMatt]

He hadn't at that point, doesn't mean he wasn't going to. You have a fair point but at the same time they both could have gotten around if ambrose has delayed turning in ever so slightly (not blaming him though, just saying)

[@fanoffreedom3003]

Ambrose is cool polite and freindly, murphy is a bad sport, stroppy highly strung and loses his cool alot,, thats why he did this, he was the first choice driver for the pirtek falcon but he turned it down coz it was a Ford,, what a wanker, thats pure hate not loyalty to Holden, you watch him he struggles to keep his cool he has alot of digs and isbias as fuck , even more bias than skaife who is another stroppy hot head, Ford drivers never get angry an lose their banana over racing incidents, john bowe might have been the one to get a little hot and out spoken but murphy and skaife,, need to see them selves behaving like that often to wake them up, i rekon that if murphy was proven to deliberately crash into Ambrose then he should of been exhited from v8 cars with a conviction in court for knowingly endangering a fellow competitors life

[@gorky1317]

its abundantly clear from the onboard of ambrose that he turned down into murphy's car and left no racing room, and this is after losing his ass end into murphs car in the previous corner attempting to get this run. Ambrose was always a fuckwit. His problem here was he met someone who was on the racing line who wouldn't just hand him the position. As far as Ambrose was concerned he had already signed a full time contract and was leaving supercars, he didn't care who he wrecked he just thought he was entitled to drive however he liked.

[@my12spoonswithrose43]

@@fanoffreedom3003 you speak so much shit. There are plenty of Ford drivers who get angry & agro.

[@andrewrussell7379]

R.I.P Mark Porter.

[@TotnumMatt]

Was that this Bathurst or the year after? Regardless, such a sad loss. R.I.P Jason Richards too!

[@TotnumMatt]

Silly me, I compltely missed the fact that Porter was in this race and was even mentioned in the commentry of this video, since Murphy passed him shortly before the accident! So it must've been the year after as he died in the support race.

[@TrickyMario7654]

@@TotnumMatt Yep you're correct about that, Porter did die in 2006.

[@purwantiallan5089]

@@TrickyMario7654 hi trickymario. Happy late new year 2021.

[@theuntcup1034]

Why did we never (or at least I've never seen), the onboard footage from both Murphy & Ambrose cars, coming into Griffins?

[@connormanson735]

Where’s the guy from the BP ad?

[@jackveness2177]

Who came back here to this video after the last bert ad

[@samsav2866]

Me

[@orionparish9858]

I'm neither a Holden or Ford fan (or an Ambrose fan for that matter), but I think its pretty clear who's fault this was. The touching before hand was just good ol' racing. Murphy crashed them both on purpose.

[@staticman1263]

Horse shit. Why would he put himself out of a race he was in the running to win?

[@giorgioprofiris8188]

When he was going for his 3rd Bathurst in a row as well. No way he did that on purpose

[@colinpenrose8275]

@@staticman1263 because Murphys ego has its own postcode. He was around 4 metres off the racing line and heading straight ahead. He turned Ambrose around because he knew he didn't have the pace to win the race and took ambrose out instead

[@colinpenrose8275]

@@giorgioprofiris8188 if you think he didn't do that on porpose whatever the F@#$ your on i want some

[@connorgmacleod]

I saw this on southern cross ten newcastle when I was little and I was like THAT IS A MASSIVE SHUNT THE TRACK IS COMPLETELY BLOCKED!

[@mcd3379]

Seriously, if it had ended up in a bit of biff between Ambrose and Murphy, it would have been the greatest moment in Australian motorsport bar none.

[@sdstewart87]

Have no idea why they were saying they couldn't call that. Clearly that one was on Murphy. Retaliatory or not that was bonehead racing. How is it even a question of who was to blame?... He had plenty room on the inside to brake and turn in, but never, just so that he could punt Ambrose. And I'm a fan of neither of them

[@777hdt]

I like Murph but this time he turned Ambrose. Overhead shot shows Murphy he was up far enough but he has a good foot or two of road on the inside he chose not to use and drove into Marcus. Oh well there’s always been no lost love between them.

[@wendigockel]

Dear Nascar drivers, Watch and learn! This is how professional racers should behave when they are upset about one another. Letting the emotions flow without making an arse out of themselves.

[@Moose6340]

May 17-19, 2013, Circuit of the Americas in Austin, TX. V8 Supercars are getting bigger here in the States with the exposure on Speed and I think they will draw a big crowd in Austin.

[@wadedixon6780]

Ambrose throws his arms in the air, storms over then gets backed up quicker than a blocked toilet. All bark.

[@knight099159]

That was all Murph

[@w_stanky]

Greg Murphy made the mistake at turn 2 which allowed Ambrose to get up the inside with a little rub fair racing he was well past him coming in to turn 3 that is not a corner u can go in two abreast. Murphy should have lifted out of the throttle to avoid that crash. His mistake was the reason Ambrose got round. He instead chose to keep it pinned knowing Ambrose would turn in. Murphy caused this crash through shear arrogance there’s no other way to put it. I don’t mind Murph but it doesn’t matter how many years on I still feel the same way as when I watched it happen live. Love Bathurst. So many big moments over the years!!

[@withintherules5935]

All these years and you just get left wondering why Murphy couldn't turn left 🤔 ruined Ambrose's final shot at the mountain.

[@stevejessup1022]

Yea right cause Ambrose was such a clean racer all his career 😅

[@_Chris_D_3004]

If you're in doubt as to who is at fault, go to 4:24 and look what Murphy does. Ambrose is on the racing line no where to go. Murphy hit him on purpose

[@lilbickleymane]

Such a great moment, back when racing was racing!

[@IN2Fookes88]

Murphy was up to Ambrose's b-pillar, Ambrose should have given up the corner.

[@fanoffreedom3003]

What the fuck are you on about,, he drove him strait into the wall didnt even turn, he didnt care aboyt his race the car ir his team should of been sacked instantly then taken to court for deliberately endangering Ambrose's life

[@CJ-xk7vs]

Best move Murph ever made....Love it

[@southwestscalehobbytime2310]

Battle of the identical hairlines!

[@Bushby23]

It was the 888 Lowndes car that copped the tyre through the winshield.

[@lozzieelizadesigns05]

Ah remember it so much and I was 9 at the time

[@alane8673]

When I was racing these v8's 20 years ago, greg murphy nick was " The Hand Bag " haha

[@samsav2866]

2:02 omg it’s Burt from those adds ( this is a joke I know he is a fictional character)

[@ackack2560]

I’m here to check..

[@lozzieelizadesigns05]

That’s probaby what give them the idea for the ad and character ahaha

[@russellstone6390]

T-BONED.

[@jackbollingmoore7554]

1:40 GMC - Turning amateurs into pros.

[@pandymoose]

Pause the video at 05:03 when Ambrose puts his arms down. He's not wearing his left seatbelt!

[@GlennTrigger]

Does anyone else notice Ambrose doesn't have his left shoulder strap on?

[@benjaminhawkins1026]

Yep I saw it missing from his left shoulder!

[@purwantiallan5089]

Anyone during 2020 covid19 pandemics?

[@jayonefive234]

golden days

[@fandoautomobilismo]

It's very clear Murphy didn't turn at all.

[@James-zj3ud]

Geez ambrose was a spineless old cow for letting murph walk him backward like that during that little chat

[@stuarthancock571]

Helicopter shot at 4:30 tells the story. Murphy clearly had space on his left but chose to take out Ambrose instead.

[@staticman1263]

Why would any driver in the running to win the race take someone (and themselfs) out of a race. Dumb comment. Murphy had the inside line and was up far enough. Was all Ambrose fault.

[@weburnitatbothends]

Greg Murphy's lowest point, very Tander like, just saying

[@kevintaylor671]

This was Murphs fault hands down they would of both went around the corner if Murphy had turned but couldnt as you can see his right front wheel locks can see the smoke and it steered him straight into Ambrose weather ut was on pirposs fron being overtaken that is up for debate but that crash took out 3 of the leading top 4 cars in the race

[@cortkatanakx1q]

That's strange, I didn't noticed it at first.

[@sashagluyas1207]

Unbelievable

[@davidjonesthanksto7262]

Would of liked Ambrose to continue his career here to rub Murphy's nose in it . But congrats to Marcus on his success in NASCAR

[@barryphillips7327]

Judging by what i just watched Ambrose was almost completely past Murphy, on the outside, i would say he was 3/4 of the way past, IF Ambrose had stayed out a little bit wider he might have nearly got away with it. Sad to see the beautiful Pirtek car so badly smashed up! Ambrose always was quick even on cold tires, he seen a chance and went for it, they never did get on ( Ambrose and Murphy ). I wonder what ever happened to the PIrtek car, Stone Brothers said they would keep that one, but i have heard No more since.

[@harleyhunneybell6359]

They used it for a few races in the development series (can’t remember what it’s called) in 2006. They just finished restoring it a month ago I believe. (Took them a fair while)

[@barryphillips7327]

@@harleyhunneybell6359 in the 2006 ATCC James Courtney replaced Marcos Ambrose he went to USA to race, the car James Courtney was racing was involved in a bad accident, needed a lot of work, the only spare car they had that i know was the 05 Pirtek car which i guess had been repaired after the Bathurst crash, it would have painted yellow/blue for James Courtney to use while the other car was being fixed. I knew that Stone Brothers intended to keep that 05 Pirtek car, it probably has been repainted back to Pirtek colours and put away.

[@pauliejay4161]

Is this before or after the "brake test" incident in the Gold Coast?

[@randal4609]

few years after

[@dj17q]

A year after actually....

[@timventers742]

Yeh! Murphys temper got the better of him here. And he new it. He was just waiting for Ambrose to confront him. Murphy had a lot more to say than he should have.

[@Reggie1979]

Ambrose didn't have his left seatbelt connected. Any vision on him prior to crash?

[@James-Shrimpton]

There was some touching between the 2 cars out of turn 2 then they argue about it on the run to the cutting, both drives refusing to concede the position and going for the same bit of track, shame it happened but murphy was on the inside in my opinion, i love bathurst 1000

[@weepjng]

It's kind of an unwritten rule that whoever has their nose in front as they head towards the cutting, the other car backs off even if they're on the inside as its really only a 1 car corner. I respect your views however!

[@DDS029]

@Whjne Especially if the drivers switched positions, then who would blame whom. If a drivers answer would be, "It's his fault." no matter which car he was in, then it becomes one of those _ racin' deals._ I've never did a _bump and run_ on anyone that would totally ruin his race, and even maybe cause a wreck like this, that bring innocent parties into it. If you make a risky move, or move someone to gain a position, and it causes a wreck like this, you screwed up.

[@IstasPumaNevada]

Murphy was on the inside, but he went straight instead of turning into the corner as he would have if he was actually racing that corner, instead of trying to spin out Ambrose.

[@spikespiegel5878]

miss the auld days where there was eclectic mix of cars on the grid

[@TrashDeviant]

"But muh Ford vs Holden. It was ALWAYS Ford vs Holden", incorrectly stated every bogan ever. Makes me mad. Because no, it wasn't ALWAYS Ford vs Holden. And people are crying because more cars got added. "Ruining V8 supercars" they say. "It isn't pure anymore" they say. Yeah it only became Ford vs Holden after Nissan embarrassed the shit out of them on the track they both had sponsorship deals with. But hey, if something has been a certain way for like 20 years, it was ALWAYS that way according to the bogan target marketing audience. But I suppose when your diet consists of VB, cigarettes and freshly picked boogers, you'll get mad over anything.

[@Chives5150]

Leigh Diffey sounds very... muscular in this clip..

[@PepeAgain1025]

I think its fair to say both contributed to the crash.

[@signorpippistrello]

I don’t like zero-contact-racing but even less I like drivers going full Kyle Bush.

[@TheFarCobra]

I just realized that Ambrose right shoulder belt is broken or displaced or something.

[@Aircholo]

Carbon fibre🤣🤣🤣

[@threalMrT76]

CAHBON FYYBURR.. say it like you're an Aussie :P

[@deamommd]

Looked like Murphy tried to turn into Ambrose at turn 2 to prevent him from passing then totally failed to turn @ 3 putting Ambrose into the wall... I was never really into Supercars fan but I remember Ambrose was made out to be a massive hothead... Totally changed my view of him.

[@ryaneggert108]

Those words: "SOMEONE'S GONE!" will live forever in V8 Supercar history

[@AlonsoRules]

People still argue about this today lol. I think it was a racing incident.

[@gorky1317]

yet obvious from Ambrose's onboard that he turned down onto Greg's car and left no room. That's hardly a racing incident, thats a dickhead driving like shit.

[@arkWEWT]

@@gorky1317 Greg didnt even attempt to turn left though

[@AlonsoRules]

Ambrose should have just taken the points. He was fighting for the championship. He ended up with 0 points.

[@jamesholley9906]

You don't expect to get punted off the road by a flog that did not turn at all.

[@_Zekken]

I still think it was a racing incident as well. Sometimes shit just happens.

[@acecombat2shill]

why does it sound like the pitch is turned down

[@pandymoose]

04:57 Ambrose isn't wearing his left seatbelt strap!!

[@jarradghent4746]

In a 2015 interview, Marcos mentioned that he hadn't buckled himself in properly during the driver change and it came off during the crash.

[@VXSalvation]

hard to tell but i agree completely.. why wasnt murph turning?

[@doric_historic]

Never understood why Murphy stopped the car, the car appeared undamaged considering the safety car was going to now appear. Great piece of History at the Mountain though regardless.

[@1sneaky1a]

had busted shock n steering arm

[@doric_historic]

@@1sneaky1a Haha ah okay thanks, i just thought they wanted to scrap.

[@jfpk114]

Indeed they are. Texas Governor Rick Perry, Queensland Premier Anna Bligh, V8 Supercars Chairman Tony Cochrane and founding partner of Circuit of the Americas Tavo Hellmund confirmed a five-year deal.

[@richardjohnson4696]

I swear he said.."You fucking twat.."

[@conormacdonald5186]

I Hope Asel Will Know This Clip @ 0:56 Amazing Call By Neil Crompton

[@jlracingk1w199]

Did anyone notice ambrose left shoulder belts isn't on? Did it come undone in crash or never put on??

[@justbe4481]

Only thing missing was the slapping and spitting. Lol

[@mylespayens2747]

anyone watching this to see if that guy was actually in the background ?

[@lukeoneil7210]

Seriously! At 5:15 you can see Ambrose bumb Murphy (commentated on by Crompton) then he continued to try and drive around him. Why would/should Murphy have to lift the the throttle?

[@skippyrx21]

Murphy was 100% at fault . and i love Holden 😠

[@dj17q]

All this Ambrose fault Murphy fault I am just so dumbfounded how people just dont understand about basic racing door handle to door handle fair and square. From aerial shot there is NO question it is all on Murphy's arrogance the reason behind the unforgettable shunt. Firstly you only need to go back to turn 2 (formerly known as GTX bend) and clearly you'll see Murphy losing traction badly over the ripple strip and with a tail wag he lost alot of forward momentum. Ambrose, in a superior and faster car as the team has demonstrated all day, saw this opportunity and quickly ran around approaching the left hand kink before the Cutting. As they goes around the little kink, in normal practice the two drivers would be side by side around the corner giving each other plenty of room (remember the classic Seton and Jim Richards door to door handle drive during 1987?) but as you easily see as Ambrose started to turn left Murphy didnt. The Kiwi knew it doesnt take much to turn Ambrose around should they make contact.. At that speed a simplest nudge is all it takes. Ambrose had to turn left because he is running out of room AND he is supposed to turn left expecting Murphy to do the same. And very importantly it is what expected from Murph. But look at the video again. Murphy continues straight for just a little bit than usual, and at that speed contact is guaranteed and the rest is history. And then I just found Murphy even more of a dick for expecting everyone will take his story by reckoning Ambrose had ego problem. Clearly Murphy is holding quite a bit of grudge on Ambrose after their heated post-race briefing about the alleged 'brake testing' incident at Surfers Paradise street circuit the year before. So when Mr Murphy saw the Pirtek Falcon flying by Murphy suddenly saw red. I have no doubt in my mind Ambrose was in a box seat to win his first Bathurst that year despite the little hiccup with the missing balaclava. There were something like 30-35 laps to go and the blue Falcon has tons of speed that no other car could match, not even the eventusal winner Skaife and Toddler Kelly in the HRT Commodore. The Falcon was passing Murphy for 7th opr 8th and in striking distance of race leaders. So Mr Murphy, if you're reading this you are a complete wombat. For all those Holden fans thinking about having a go at me just because my veins all blue, please don't be bias just because you drive a Gemini or a Camira. Watch the video and you'll know Ambrose did no wrong.. RIP Ford Falcon 1960 - 2016

[@juniorgeneric]

dj17q I do have a hypothesis about why Murphy's car went straight. It is possible that Murphy lost a right-front tire coming into the corner (the tire goes suddenly and you lose steering, Caruso had the same issue at Adelaide earlier this year). I'm not justifying what Murphy did, but I am wondering if he didn't have that much control over his car.

[@dj17q]

juniorgeneric If it did Murphy would've said anything. But he didn't. And with every cameras, on board data etc etc there was nothing about tyre failure. And I do think, vaguely remembering from other source that when Murphy car was taken back to pit lane all 4 tyres are still inflated. So it is ALL on Murphy's arrogance ever since Gold Coast 2004. That's all to it.

[@joelbarron658]

Ambrose turned in on him. Murphy clearly had no where to go, if he turned in he'd hit the wall. Once the initial contact was made there was no chance of murph turning in. Quite simply Ambrose didn't give Murphy racing room. This is coming from a die hard ford fan too.

[@dj17q]

+Joel Barron Ambrose had to turn in because he is expecting Murphy to do the same. He is depending on Murphy's racing experience (or lack of) to turn. Simple. Ambrose had to turn because they are going through a left hand kink. Look at the video again. Again, we got another ducker with no racing background jumping up and down as like they know a thing about racing. Bloody wannabe!!! Mate, before you start throwing horse shit around I suggest you get a Bathurst 1987 dvd and check out the similar door handle to door handle between Richards and Seton. They went thru side by side with barely inches apart because both turned at the same time. They rely on each other's experience. And with respect. No contact. No crash. No aggro. Simple.

[@slpater1]

+dj17q exactly. even from the over head shot murphy has room to turn and ambrose has given him room. while not much but murphy just carries it straight. no attempt to turn in what so ever