Superheroes are Saving Us WRONG

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Because Science

4 жыл бұрын

What's more classic than seeing a hero swoop in at the last minute to catch a civilian falling through the air? It's an exciting way of showcasing a character's abilities, but is it really as safe as the movies make it out to be? Kyle takes a closer look at the potential consequences of this seemingly helpful service in this week's Because Science.
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@squalltheonly
@squalltheonly 4 жыл бұрын
Concrete The silent superhero that is never acknowledged. Always there to catch us.
@timross5351
@timross5351 4 жыл бұрын
www.darkhorse.com/Books/44-193/The-Complete-Concrete-TPB
@AbMaSync
@AbMaSync 4 жыл бұрын
@@timross5351 Well that is ... interesting
@salat
@salat 4 жыл бұрын
You know that there's just the right channel for concrete fans, right? kzbin.info/door/rvfiHNDS_QI-FgKQSmTITQfeatured
@connorcheetham4549
@connorcheetham4549 4 жыл бұрын
squalltheonly im a skateboarder,concrete is a superhero believe me hahaha
@wendelgulfan350
@wendelgulfan350 4 жыл бұрын
That is a good one Unsung hero - concrete
@NobiZero
@NobiZero 4 жыл бұрын
*Loki voice* “I HAVE BEEN FALLING FOR THIRTY MINUTES!”
@daltigoth3970
@daltigoth3970 4 жыл бұрын
@@ticonofruger573 Loki isn't an Asguardian though. He is a Frost Giant... Probably has similar resistance to injury, but accuracy in the details can be important.
@wendelgulfan350
@wendelgulfan350 4 жыл бұрын
Well, Loki might be falling in a void of space where dr. Strange ported him, so there shouldn't be much acceleration. And yes. He's not human.
@ticonofruger573
@ticonofruger573 4 жыл бұрын
@@daltigoth3970 Right
@bryanwoods3373
@bryanwoods3373 4 жыл бұрын
Frost giants seem to have equivalent strength to Asgardians since they have been warring for so long. Otherwise, Odin would have been able to conquer them long ago.
@kubahavlicek1933
@kubahavlicek1933 4 жыл бұрын
@@daltigoth3970 Loki survived beating from Hulk.
@misaeljager2203
@misaeljager2203 4 жыл бұрын
that's one of reasons that the "Supers" were banned in the Incredibles universe. the people that got "saved" got injured. also NO CAPES!
@crazylarryjr
@crazylarryjr 4 жыл бұрын
Capes are dangerous, remember what happened to Syndrome? NO CAPES
@MrSun0007
@MrSun0007 4 жыл бұрын
@@crazylarryjr don't some supers wear capes to help them fly? or is that movie logic?
@wowbanget3429
@wowbanget3429 4 жыл бұрын
Jin Tao Yang like the one that dr strange use? big yes
@MrSun0007
@MrSun0007 4 жыл бұрын
@@wowbanget3429 like when Supergirl was learning to fly
@calebheinis965
@calebheinis965 4 жыл бұрын
Actually rewatched that movie the other day, and yeah it started from all the injuries caused by Mr Incredible when saving people, especially the train ones. Something I also noticed however, is that the train things would never happened if it weren't for Syndrome (even though wasn't Syndrome yet)
@PaperbackWizard
@PaperbackWizard 4 жыл бұрын
Henry Cavill's Superman does it the "safe way" at least twice. In "Man of Steel", he doesn't just fly beneath Lois' escape pod and stop it; he catches up to it, matches velocity, pulls Lois from it, and slowly lowers her to the ground. In "Batman v Superman", when Lex pushes Lois from the top of the skyscraper, Clark again matches her velocity and then slowly lowers her all the way to the ground. And it's so beautifully shot both times.
@ricardos.santos6714
@ricardos.santos6714 4 жыл бұрын
Two great super-hero movies!
@Shadow-fb2ec
@Shadow-fb2ec 4 жыл бұрын
Ricardo S. Santos idk about that
@gorkskoal9315
@gorkskoal9315 4 жыл бұрын
That's actually most of w..ya know arms and catching, and spidermans stuffs is springing(or usually is or something).
@ToshiUchiha7
@ToshiUchiha7 4 жыл бұрын
@@ricardos.santos6714 I agree 100%!
@trevorrogers95
@trevorrogers95 4 жыл бұрын
Too bad those movies suck.
@PabloFedericoRuizDiazRios
@PabloFedericoRuizDiazRios 4 жыл бұрын
In words of one thinker of our time: “Speed has never killed anyone. Suddenly becoming stationary, that's what gets you.” ― Jeremy Clarkson
@KainaX122
@KainaX122 4 жыл бұрын
"It's not the fall that kills you, it's the sudden stop at the end"
@HaydenDuty
@HaydenDuty 4 жыл бұрын
I'm not afraid of heights. I'm afraid of ground at high speeds.
@yourfavoriteskinnynerd1812
@yourfavoriteskinnynerd1812 4 жыл бұрын
this isn't technically true because going from stationary then accelerating at great speed in a short time would have the same effect.
@longlostwraith5106
@longlostwraith5106 4 жыл бұрын
Speed is relative, so... yeah. Of course. It's not the speed that kills you, it's the high acceleration.
@PabloFedericoRuizDiazRios
@PabloFedericoRuizDiazRios 4 жыл бұрын
@@yourfavoriteskinnynerd1812 well, maybe he can change his phrase to "suddenly changing the module of acceleration is what gets you"
@FlagCutie
@FlagCutie 4 жыл бұрын
I'll give Shazam a pass since Billy kept skipping school and probably wasn't paying attention in physics class.
@NinjaBearFilms
@NinjaBearFilms 4 жыл бұрын
What school do you attend that teaches physics to 12 year olds?
@FlagCutie
@FlagCutie 4 жыл бұрын
@@NinjaBearFilms wasn't he 14? Anyway, by freshman year I had already learned basic physics (newton's laws, momentum, acceleration, etc) and I wasn't even in advanced classes. Plus we had done the egg drop challenge to come up with a structure to save an egg from a 2 story fall. Go Washington State GO! Lol
@NinjaBearFilms
@NinjaBearFilms 4 жыл бұрын
Jess_Marie_G I’m not sure, I haven’t actually seen it yet.
@rolfs2165
@rolfs2165 4 жыл бұрын
@@NinjaBearFilms I can't speak for US schools, but I already had Physics in grade 5 and 6 in Germany. Which is about age 10-12.
@user-wn2ms9nc7r
@user-wn2ms9nc7r 4 жыл бұрын
@@NinjaBearFilms we did physics on elementary school. Nothing hard but still.
@Matty0311MMS
@Matty0311MMS 4 жыл бұрын
"This is a B.S. P.S.A." 😂 Good one, Kyle. 😃👍
@paulruiz8150
@paulruiz8150 4 жыл бұрын
I don't understand this joke.
@Matty0311MMS
@Matty0311MMS 4 жыл бұрын
@@paulruiz8150 Americans LOVE their acronyms, and B.S. is short for "bullshit". P.S.A. means "public service announcement".
@ericnielsen6670
@ericnielsen6670 4 жыл бұрын
Wow, this also has huge implications for heroes like Flash or Quicksilver when they cary citizens to "saftey". The forwards velocity in the citizens would send their mass flying forward when the speedster comes to such an abrupt stop. The speedster would act like a catapult for their helpless victim. They'd have better chances of survival being trapped under rubble or being subject to an explosion. Love the videos and the crew behind them.
@loganricherson3749
@loganricherson3749 4 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure about quicksilver but I think that the flash shares the speed force with whomever he is saving, protecting them from the insane G's in the same way that it protects him. I'm not a comic expert so take what I say with a grain of salt but it would make sense
@crablord7934
@crablord7934 3 жыл бұрын
@@loganricherson3749 That's exactly what happens
@nyetloki
@nyetloki 2 жыл бұрын
The speed force does that. Atleast one comic gave Superman the same thing. Marvel though, just ignores it. Quicksilver can now go mach 5 without Sonic booms too. So something metaphysics screwy is happening beyond simple running really fast.
@5688gamble
@5688gamble Жыл бұрын
They'd be dead before that, no difference relativistically between slowing down and speeding up, they can reach insane speeds near instantly, it would be like getting hit by a train!
@simthompson-cf6cf
@simthompson-cf6cf 7 ай бұрын
True just think of Gwen when spiderman "saved her" but then in spidermans web Gwens spine broke
@DaveLennonCopeland
@DaveLennonCopeland 4 жыл бұрын
Super-Hero "Huh... seems I caught another bag of goo; could have sworn it was a person... I don't get it."
@kajasinis4166
@kajasinis4166 4 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised you didn't mention Incredibles. When mr. Incredible got sued for saving people and injuring them
@casedistorted
@casedistorted 4 жыл бұрын
Kaja Sinis I’m also surprised he didn’t mention Quicksilver in Days or Future Past lol
@AsciiSmoke
@AsciiSmoke 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Kyle, What about redirecting the force into horizontal motion in a curve like divers do?
@Doleoh
@Doleoh 4 жыл бұрын
I was wondering this too. Like in the Matrix when Neo catches Trinity.
@ADrug
@ADrug 4 жыл бұрын
@@Doleoh if you mean second movie, then it probably should be more letal, as he not only cancelled all her already gained speed (which was nearly T.V.) but then added another vector of acceleration, which was way above Mach 1 ( judging by the cars, that flyed behind, it was freakin' Mach 100), therefore dismembering her (and probably himself, since he's flying faster than bullet, and he's vulnerable to bullets). Only reason for hero to change falling into gliding is to help poor bastard dodge what's on the ground, or what falls after him. Although IRL, where we don't have flying superheroes (sadly), trading your vertical speed in horizontal might slightly help, if you falling on trees or something, that's scattered horizontally on the ground. Also, before colliding with them, you wanna increase ur body surface as much as possible. True, if it is kind of trees that have branches sticking out perpendicularly, you're likely to be impaled, but if it's kind of a spruce tree (or any other kind of tree that has branches pointing downwards), u might have a chance to survive. Break 1/3 of your bones and have severe inner organs damage, but survive (for at least some time, maybe u give people, that seen u from the ground, time to save you). however, if you falling on the ground, changing direction won't help (unless you're in a wingsuit), there will be around 60 degrees angle between you and a flat concrete. Just in case, i'm not a physicist, neither a pro skydiver, to be 100% sure that everything i said is true, i'm going from my own knowledge (which lacks in both disciplines)
@MrMaKeMeDiNnEr
@MrMaKeMeDiNnEr 4 жыл бұрын
Thats also a good techinque that people that do parkour use. But it has its limits too.
@Kaldrin
@Kaldrin 3 жыл бұрын
That's the same thing, you decelerate vertically in the end and that's what matters, it's just that in some context this must be achieved through moving horizontally when landing (parkour roll for ex) but you could theorucally decelerate the same amount without the horizontal movement, while be the same result
@anthonydurdenjr1372
@anthonydurdenjr1372 Күн бұрын
That’s exactly what I was thinking!!!👍
@christianhawkins2428
@christianhawkins2428 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Kyle, I'm seeing lots of comments about the scene from the Incredibles where the man is attempting suicide and Mr. Incredible "saves" him, but after seeing this episode, I rewatched that scene to see if Mr. Incredible would have actually only broken that man's bones, and since I'm "that type", I decided to do the math: The man (Oliver Sansweet) falls for about 6.5 seconds, reaching terminal velocity (53 m/s). At the time of the catch, it appears that Mr. Incredible has no meaningful vertical velocity, so I assumed his velocity as 0. I tried again and again to "time" the impact, but my best guess is 0.1 s and so that gives us an acceleration of Mr. Sansweet vertically of 530 m/s/s or about 54 g's But that's not all. Mr. incredible jumps the gap between the buildings (about 14.8 m assuming 2-lane road and lane-wide sidewalks) between the buildings in a little over 1 second, giving him a velocity of, well, 14.8 m/s horizontally. This means that Mr. Sansweet also was affected by a horizontal acceleration of 148 m/s/s or another 15.1 g's Using the Pythagorean Theorem, we can conclude that the total acceleration on Mr. Sansweet's body is sqrt(148 m/s/s ^ 2 + 530 m/s/s ^ 2) = 550 m/s/s or 56 g's, effectively killing him then and there. (Also, having the 158 kg Mr. Incredible land on you to aid his rapid deceleration from 14.8 m/s upon landing in the building wouldn't help). Thank you and have a wonderful day Kyle, wielder of markers and science!
@malachilynch2979
@malachilynch2979 4 жыл бұрын
I bet you get *super nerd*😁
@christianhawkins2428
@christianhawkins2428 4 жыл бұрын
@@malachilynch2979 I hope he even sees my comment
@jonathan3488
@jonathan3488 4 жыл бұрын
Superheroes : exist . Kyle : I'm gonna end this man's whole career.
@TheMarshmellowLife
@TheMarshmellowLife 4 жыл бұрын
This deserves a footnotes
@spectaa3138
@spectaa3138 4 жыл бұрын
😂
@IvanSoregashi
@IvanSoregashi 4 жыл бұрын
they don't exist tho
@matthewlofton8465
@matthewlofton8465 4 жыл бұрын
Not in the blatant and overly dramatic sense as shown in comic books and cmb movies, no. But Stan Lee did a whole tv series about superheros in real life. There are some amazingly-gifted people out there who could be fairly classified as superheroic. One guy literally made himself into a cyborg, and is able to go around wirelessly interacting with lights and other electronic gadgets in his home (I don't remember if he could do anything outside the house, though, since it was at a time when mobile devices weren't so prevalent). That proves that for superheroes like DC's Cyborg it's really all about scale (technological availability) and ethics (hacking, end-of-life stuff, body mods, etc). We have supergeniuses, too, so supervillains like Brainiac or the Jessica Jones abuser potentially aren't out of the equation either. Everything else would probably depend heavily on technology and therefore would have a huge host of issues to be dealt with regarding the fragility of the normal human body (which Kyle and other content creators are busily pointing out). I could see a Batman being possible, for example, but a Captain Marvel or Spiderman would just be ludicrous.
@stopshowingmyname4161
@stopshowingmyname4161 4 жыл бұрын
If you were actually falling, your hair should have been flowing behind your head rather than hanging below it. The way I see it, there are two possibilities to explain this. Either you weren't really falling, or your hair is made of a super dense material that makes it heavier than the rest of your body, resulting in it being the "leading edge" of your human shaped fuselage. Clearly, the latter is more likely, so I have to ask, Kyle... What is your hair made of? Is it neutron star material? Is that why it's so shiny and beautiful?
@Thapion
@Thapion 4 жыл бұрын
I was going to say the same!
@goldenknight578
@goldenknight578 4 жыл бұрын
Argon oil?
@lasarith2
@lasarith2 4 жыл бұрын
Gabriel Munoz you goof, everyone knows he uses Thoreal Paris .
@Evaonk
@Evaonk 4 жыл бұрын
Gabriel Munoz This deserves more likes.
@LordCastigator
@LordCastigator 4 жыл бұрын
I know this is an "older" video, but it seems a variable has been overlooked which could make faster saves safer - Telekinesis; the ability to move things with your mind. More specifically Contact Telekinesis; using your mind to hold things once you have made physical contact with it. In other words, once you touch the thing you're trying to catch, this power kicks in & essentially provides additional support for the item being lifted/thrown/CAUGHT. If powerful enough, it could potentially work on every piece (every millimeter of metal, every bolt, every passenger, every cell, drop of blood, EVERYTHING) of the item caught to the point of cancelling out some inertia & therefore G-forces. I think it's been used to explain a few times how Superheroes can catch a falling car without it wrapping around them (like Shazam's bus should have), but not often enough however... Plus most versions of Spiderman's webbing stretches like that of a real spider's web, cancelling out a few Gs there. Would still hurt hitting the windscreen, but he was trying to test chemicals on War Vets...
@kieran8266
@kieran8266 4 жыл бұрын
Glad you mentioned that the first Superman movie got it right.
@chichan9013
@chichan9013 4 жыл бұрын
That's why we need a Hero Association before these people become heroes.
@freezingfire1800
@freezingfire1800 4 жыл бұрын
*one punch man and my hero academia intensifies*
@trueaidooo
@trueaidooo 4 жыл бұрын
They probably teach this at UA
@Mongward
@Mongward 4 жыл бұрын
Now it all makes sense. Saitama doesn't kill monsters, he just saves them very fast!
@kitsunekid16
@kitsunekid16 4 жыл бұрын
@@trueaidooo that's more than likely
@noobbotgaming2173
@noobbotgaming2173 4 жыл бұрын
Civil War happens. Hahaha
@Lucky10279
@Lucky10279 4 жыл бұрын
"It's not the fall that kills you, it's the sudden stop!"
@irogendi
@irogendi 4 жыл бұрын
Jeremy Clarkson had a quote about this exact thing in one of the Top Gear episodes he was in.. he said "Speed has never killed anyone. Suddenly becoming stationary, that's what gets you."
@CallMeHalo
@CallMeHalo 4 жыл бұрын
“ please stop catching us like you catch a bullet “ I’m dead
@jasonnwajei7876
@jasonnwajei7876 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Kyle! Just a quick question or correction, but wouldn’t the bus still crumble as Shazam catches it?
@nyetloki
@nyetloki 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it should have just impaled itself on him.
@zaczane
@zaczane 4 жыл бұрын
Have You been Saved by a superhero recently? You may be entitled to over $10 Million Call now.
@chrisc1140
@chrisc1140 4 жыл бұрын
Literally the Increadibles
@jstanisz
@jstanisz 4 жыл бұрын
Totally thought that’s where he was going at the beginning
@qtar1984
@qtar1984 4 жыл бұрын
Lionel Hutz, is that you?
@saltymisfit6566
@saltymisfit6566 4 жыл бұрын
@@chrisc1140 Mr. Hill did NOT ask to be saved, he did not want to be saved 🤣
@AmandaPandaPantsYouTubular
@AmandaPandaPantsYouTubular 4 жыл бұрын
It's my money and I need it now!
@GN-sj1ni
@GN-sj1ni 4 жыл бұрын
Andrew Garfield spider man: why didn't you upload this in 2014
@goylem91
@goylem91 4 жыл бұрын
He even should upload that in jun1973
@PotatoCrusader982
@PotatoCrusader982 4 жыл бұрын
Damn
@PotatoCrusader982
@PotatoCrusader982 4 жыл бұрын
@@goylem91 oh shit double damn
@PyroYeet
@PyroYeet 4 жыл бұрын
me when i hear about instantly stopping: G's, here we go again
@tanvirapu885
@tanvirapu885 4 жыл бұрын
iron man 3 have perfect example of it, the plane rescue scene where Iron man saved several persons falling from air force one and dropped them in river...
@zzzdee1980
@zzzdee1980 4 жыл бұрын
Me: Superheroes saves is dangerous. My friend: That's BS... Me: That's Because Science!!
@danakers6243
@danakers6243 4 жыл бұрын
When my super powers kick in, I'm coming to you for a manual. Any day now....
@heimdall1973
@heimdall1973 4 жыл бұрын
It's simple: check the current falling speed (call it v) and height above the ground (h), calculate v^2 / 2h and that's the minimum deceleration you have to apply to touch the ground by the time you stop. Higher deceleration is OK as long as it's something a body can cope with. However, you'll stop above the ground so you won't be ready to offload the person you rescued until you reach the ground. Lower deceleration, on the other hand, means that you and the victim will hit the ground, albeit at reduced speed.
@goktimusprime
@goktimusprime 4 жыл бұрын
I already have a super power. I can become invisible when nobody is looking at me.
@heimdall1973
@heimdall1973 4 жыл бұрын
@@goktimusprime I can turn invisible in pitch black. Unfortunately, when I'm invisible, I can't see.
@crimsonninja4097
@crimsonninja4097 4 жыл бұрын
Superman at least in the comics says he has to calculate all kinds of physics instantaneously before moving. I saw Jimmy hit his signal watch just before the Gunshot and i could see Clark's reaction. As soon as he heard the subsonic squeal, he would focus, instantly calculating things like longitude, lattitude, range....than he would fly he once told me it took him years to acclimate this kind of speed. In space it's all fun and games but on Earth he has to calculate subtle pressure dynamics, airflow, inertia and so on, he almost always slows down over populated areas in order to eliminate the Sonic Boom. As for the aforementioned Space he showed it on another occasion as well He quickly leaves behind his usual earthly perceptions, he won't need them now some concepts must be allowed to live in the mind unencumbered by traces of Human skepticism. Space bends around him at this speed and time slows down there is no room for judgement only action, this is Super Speed.
@quantumintellect7261
@quantumintellect7261 4 жыл бұрын
Two comments: Firstly, you would also want to catch the falling person using the greatest surface area possible to prevent them receiving targeted pressures. Secondly what about transferring energy in other ways, for instance parkour techniques cause forces to be divided to multiple points over a a longer period of time.
@MikeTrieu
@MikeTrieu 4 жыл бұрын
Cue Spiderman schooling other superheros on the physics of deceleration.
@Sereomontis
@Sereomontis 4 жыл бұрын
2.5 seconds to fall from a 10 story building. Light takes 1.3 seconds each way between the Earth and the moon. So if someone were standing on the moon and watched you fall off the roof of a building that is 10 stories tall and instantaneously accelerated to the speed of light to try to catch you, they wouldn't be able to reach you in time. You'd need at least 12 stories. You're welcome. I guess.
@rimuruo_o2018
@rimuruo_o2018 4 жыл бұрын
Man Of Steel coming from the man of steel himself hahaha experience shows
@duffman2625
@duffman2625 4 жыл бұрын
What kind of insane eyesight do you have to have to see someone on Earth falling off a building while you're standing on the moon? The Sauron kind?
@MarioMonte13
@MarioMonte13 4 жыл бұрын
@@duffman2625 the content algorithm kind
@foxstarwind99
@foxstarwind99 4 жыл бұрын
Let's not forget that the Hero usually hears said person falling before setting eyes on them and sound is significantly slower than light so the time frame would be even longer. Then there is decision and action time etc...
@duffman2625
@duffman2625 4 жыл бұрын
@@foxstarwind99 I have not seen this. Normally what I see is a bad guy puts an innocent civilian or someone the hero knows and loves in danger by falling *right in front of the hero's eyes*, and the hero must make the decision to save said person, giving the bad guy time to get away or complete an evil scheme.
@GabrielGreedy
@GabrielGreedy 4 жыл бұрын
As a wise middle aged man once said in a British car show: "Speed has never killed anyone, suddenly becoming stationary that's what get you!!
@FueledbyFaith
@FueledbyFaith 4 жыл бұрын
Jeremy Clarkson!!!
@MustafaKhan-mj8yv
@MustafaKhan-mj8yv 4 жыл бұрын
Go from 0 to 10000miles per hour in a second and say that again.
@matthewedwards6454
@matthewedwards6454 4 жыл бұрын
@@MustafaKhan-mj8yv sir that isn't speed, thar is acceleration. Pretty much the same thing as abruptly stopping. Same forces in play. Also we are traveleing 34,000 mph right this moment, and we don't feel a thing.
@maxbuster1508
@maxbuster1508 4 жыл бұрын
@@matthewedwards6454 Speed is always relative so one could say that we are moving at 0 mph and another can say 34,000 mph and both would be right
@matthewedwards6454
@matthewedwards6454 4 жыл бұрын
@@maxbuster1508 that was precisely my point. As the op mentioned, speed doesn't kill you, the sudden change does. I was disputing Khan's comment saying that a change in velocity is not speed, for if speed itself was a factor, the earth's rotation alone would kill everyone.
@michaelmiles2647
@michaelmiles2647 4 жыл бұрын
Love your work mate. Keep it up
@MrAlman8
@MrAlman8 4 жыл бұрын
Great work Kyle! And using the superman movie clip [known to discredit hero rescue] as the BEST way to save lives is fantastic! Many people wont be using that reff anymore. Love to see more stuff like this with effective ways for superheroes to save lives and make the world a better place to live.
@scottsutherland3630
@scottsutherland3630 4 жыл бұрын
Tony's armor snagging all the people out of the air in Iron Man 3 is a great example of saving people the right way. He fell with them, catching each in turn, and then only pulled up, gradually, when they were close to the water. I'm interested in whether his technique of making it impossible for everyone in the "monkey chain" to let go (he electrified their arms, so they couldn't open their hands) would work.
@scotth5114
@scotth5114 4 жыл бұрын
Agreed, I was also thinking about this part from IM3.
@VNM-xg3ix
@VNM-xg3ix 4 жыл бұрын
But then there's a scene where he freefalls and smashes into the ground and nothing happens.
@Geo2wavey
@Geo2wavey 4 жыл бұрын
Black Venom he has his armor I’m sure it was durable
@VNM-xg3ix
@VNM-xg3ix 4 жыл бұрын
@@Geo2wavey The suit may be durable but that has no effect on the deceleration. No suit can prevent a guy surviving a fall from the sky.
@jamaelhil4014
@jamaelhil4014 4 жыл бұрын
What about Tony suddenly pulling a 180 after Loki tossed him out of Stark Tower?
@kameronbrooks2372
@kameronbrooks2372 4 жыл бұрын
"That conductor is conduc-dead..." 🤣 I was conduc-dead after he said it
@paulwitter7553
@paulwitter7553 4 жыл бұрын
At least in Hancock, this concept of "superheroes save people incorrectly" is explored. That train derails causing untold damage, death, and destruction.
@Wolfiyeethegranddukecerberus17
@Wolfiyeethegranddukecerberus17 4 жыл бұрын
Superman: sees someone falling off of building Also Superman: jumps off building along with them
@themetal
@themetal 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this. I've considered this for my own fictional writings and I'm happy to see more people discussing this.
@Sonicgott
@Sonicgott 4 жыл бұрын
Everyone remembered Mr. Incredible before watching this video?
@CirqueitOfficial
@CirqueitOfficial 4 жыл бұрын
I think you broke something..... EVERYTHING!!!
@MrCreamster20
@MrCreamster20 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, but he wasn't stopping the vertical fall distance; just merely re-directing it into a horizontal force. The point at which the force direction changed would still hurt(the guy is shown in a sling and neck collar) but would ultimately save their life.
@christianhawkins2428
@christianhawkins2428 4 жыл бұрын
@@MrCreamster20 actually, thats not exactly how that works, because if you look at the clip, Mr incredible actually decelerates the man vertically and adds horizontal acceleration to the mix in about a tenth of a second, which actually increases the g's pulled by the man
@goktimusprime
@goktimusprime 4 жыл бұрын
The point that The Incredibles makes is that simply catching people or stopping trains is likely to cause injuries to the people that you're trying to save. And yeah, people will take legal action to cover things like medical expenses, loss of income due to being unable to work and other forms of compensation. Supers were literally becoming too much of a financial burden/liability for the government which is why they were shut down. The Incredibles is one of the more grounded-in-reality superhero movies out there.
@mattk750
@mattk750 4 жыл бұрын
Same!
@wayneharrison6621
@wayneharrison6621 4 жыл бұрын
That scene in "Matrix Reloaded" where Neo comes in supersonic and grabs Trinity before she hits the ground is a great example also. In real life, she would have been instantly killed, like being hit by a Mack truck. Of course, this being the Matrix, and Neo being The One, he probably altered the program where she wouldn't be smashed to pulp by the impact.
@sidchicken2308
@sidchicken2308 4 жыл бұрын
Adam J. Harper he said that
@Kualinar
@Kualinar 4 жыл бұрын
@Adam J. Harper At the end of the original film, he explicitly say that ALL laws are arbitrary and can all be manipulated at will. Then, he put down the phone and take flight.
@champisthebunny6003
@champisthebunny6003 4 жыл бұрын
In the programmed reality of the matrix, had Trinity hit the 'ground' she would have died. Not just because the environmental rules of the matrix mirror the real world but in her mind, the shock and trauma of the 'impact' would kill her in the real world. Even though, physically, she never fell at all. But between the Matrix, and her own mind in effect telling her, you cant and wont survive this, she wouldn't. Neo, like everyone is saying, has all the Matrix's god-mode cheats and console commands. So yea, TGM and cushion her fall and subvert all the messy details.
@sdfkjgh
@sdfkjgh 4 жыл бұрын
Adam J. Harper: Neo was a script kiddy.
@Rob_Teh_Builder
@Rob_Teh_Builder 4 жыл бұрын
Question from a past video (Quantum Tunneling): since every time light speed travelling comes up, the danger of particle impact (or insect impact in the Flash videos) is brought up. In the Quantum Tunneling episode, you said as velocity approaches light speed, relativistic mass increases. Would this not negate the impact of individual particles? This is also referencing all the jaeger videos talking about the size of the jaegers and kaiju needing a much larger amount of force to cause relative damage. Love your videos!
@guizins
@guizins 4 жыл бұрын
Henry Cavill supes save Louis the right way in batman v superman
@d.mat.zero6525
@d.mat.zero6525 4 жыл бұрын
4:09 Me: oh thank god you're back Kyle, there was another man standing where you are moments ago wearing glasses... he's probably still out there... lurking in the shadows.
@jcorpac
@jcorpac 4 жыл бұрын
Please remember to donate to the Gwen Stacy Memorial Fund for improper Superhero rescues today.
@afosbinder96
@afosbinder96 4 жыл бұрын
First movie scene I thought of
@shanok3
@shanok3 4 жыл бұрын
Still too soon, man
@seanc9520
@seanc9520 4 жыл бұрын
though the save fail its the only one that follow real physics laws
@rodsteinhouse2325
@rodsteinhouse2325 4 жыл бұрын
Oh snap
@poutineausyropderable7108
@poutineausyropderable7108 4 жыл бұрын
@@rodsteinhouse2325 She only died because she hit the floors. (I mean in movie physic talk). If the web touched her 2 meter higher she woulda been fine(Mobie physics). She woulda died with real physic tho.
@rheafonfabre
@rheafonfabre 4 жыл бұрын
Another great video! Could you possibly consider covering the "petrtification" of the anime Dr. Stone sometime in the future? Whether you do or don't, I'm still a huge fan. Thanks for always making great videos!
@donniedavid3013
@donniedavid3013 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Kyle! Great episode I like the route you were going but I think you overlooked the complexity of squishy humans. The superheroes arms catch the victim and they bend also like with Shazam his legs also bend when they take that initial force on the ground. So I believe factoring in those time complexities in the equation allows the force to be a little lower, though I still think you can't get away from injury.
@redassassin2641
@redassassin2641 4 жыл бұрын
Your hair didn't obey phisics when you where falling
@DrGzhero
@DrGzhero 4 жыл бұрын
Wonder if this comment makes it to supernerd lol
@RizzRiderEUC
@RizzRiderEUC 4 жыл бұрын
He was in the void y’all, physics works differently
@johnmcclure40
@johnmcclure40 4 жыл бұрын
That's his superpower
@mastertofu
@mastertofu 4 жыл бұрын
Physics doesn't apply in the Void. He already said, in the videos, he is not standing on anything but rather, floating. If gravity doesn't exactly keep making sense, why would it when he falls. (We all know what has been edited out)
@ladislavantal7268
@ladislavantal7268 4 жыл бұрын
Argan oil does magical things to your hair... ;)
@GrizzneyGames
@GrizzneyGames 4 жыл бұрын
They actually do cover this in the first Incredibles movie and comic book Spiderman with Gwen Stacy. The catch in the Incredibles leaves an attempted suicide person in several casts and Gwen Stacy's neck snaps due to the Gs and acceleration still happening on the rest of her body. I love the show and your commander style... keep it up... Kyle.
@CapozAriel
@CapozAriel 4 жыл бұрын
i think the incredibles one has fake casts, to win more money with the law suit
@GrizzneyGames
@GrizzneyGames 4 жыл бұрын
@Another Faceless Name that's very true!
@vectotorohyeah401
@vectotorohyeah401 4 жыл бұрын
Whiplash
@lordlard2833
@lordlard2833 4 жыл бұрын
@Another Faceless Name There still is the entire train he stopped as well.
@DuncanCheong
@DuncanCheong 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Kyle! Love your channel! I have been thinking What if the super hero catches the falling person and glide down with an angel or slightly curving instead of catching them directly from below could that extend the falling time or the horizontal force would just break every bones of the falling person?
@odinforce29
@odinforce29 4 жыл бұрын
There's one thing that wasn't considered in the math. If the superhero used SPACE (distance) to save someone from a fall, it would increases the deceleration time substantially. If instead of moving vertically they moved diagonally they could change the direction of the force in small angles increasing the distance and therefore time. I just can't do the math to find what angle would be safe to redirect a person without putting them under to many Gs when doing so.
@NinjaBearFilms
@NinjaBearFilms 4 жыл бұрын
Hey fellow SuperNerds out there. Two time SuperNerd here (Kyle credits me with a third but he actually gave that to my son, something he is very proud of and I won’t take from him!) and I know this is not related to today’s video. So I do not expect this to get into footnotes. But there is another KZbinr that has made a working Infinity Gauntlet out of Brass and says that he will give it to our favorite Science Boi stuck in the void to play with and make a follow up video to his previous video about the Thanos Snap. kzbin.info/www/bejne/oJ-pcmqohKmod7M Yes, it really does snap contrary to Kyle’s initial conclusions. But, I’m 100% confident that he can explain why this gauntlet works when his test gauntlets did not. So please, like and comment on this post to make sure that Kyle Hill sees this as he collects all of your nerdy comments and corrections for this week’s video about how super heroes should be saving us all from being thrown from tall buildings by the villain of the week. And hopefully we will see a collaboration of my favorite channel on a follow up with a “working” infinity gauntlet.
@roberthunter5059
@roberthunter5059 4 жыл бұрын
This is too much power for mortal men! WHAT HAS HE DONE?!
@Slothptimal
@Slothptimal 4 жыл бұрын
The idea of a snapping gauntlet depends on how well it fits, as well as how malleable the metal is under force. EG you can snap your fingers while wearing a rubber glove. If it analogs to a similar effect in Thanos's hand, no issue. And with the reality stone, it easily could.
@AlexssandroMeneses
@AlexssandroMeneses 4 жыл бұрын
Congratulations!
@NinjaBearFilms
@NinjaBearFilms 4 жыл бұрын
Nasturtium I made a cosplay infinity gauntlet that snaps, but mine is made from a gold fabric which is what I suspect is the difference in play here.
@QueenKalli
@QueenKalli 4 жыл бұрын
I can explain it, although not quite as good as Kyle would. The MCU Gauntlet, along with the ones that Kyle tried, were all metal on metal, which doesn't have as much friction making the force of your finger when hitting your palm not that much to push the air out of the way causing the sound. Also the metal wasn't able to mold as easily to form the air pocket which contributes to the sound of the snap. The gauntlet made in the video has a leather glove used for the palm side of the hands and the design was just on the backside of the hand. I use to wear leather gloves, and I know it is possible to snap using them, just harder. The leather does have enough friction to give your fingers enough force to hit your palm to cause the noise and also is able to flex enough to form the air pocket in your palm to give you the snap. What he did was just have that glove and put accessories on the backside of it to make it look like an infinity gauntlet. I am in no way shaming the creator for the content, because it is a good looking build, however he did call Kyle out on it and is treating like a "I proved him wrong", when he didn't even make both sides of the gauntlet.
@vizthex
@vizthex 4 жыл бұрын
Oh god thank you for not talking like that in the entire video.
@chabri2000
@chabri2000 4 жыл бұрын
for another episode, you could talk about material and its resistance to forces (like when they grab a vehicle moving fast and it doesn't snap o breaks appart instantly)
@Polar_Waffle
@Polar_Waffle 4 жыл бұрын
Is that how parachute works? Also what about falling down but rather than slowly slowing down while moving into the ground, the person slowed down into the ground by moving downward and also sideways like a slide, for example athletes that do extreme sport like snowboarding and skiing, they do sometimes jump from a ledge before landing on a slide safely
@THJAFO
@THJAFO 4 жыл бұрын
What about loki falling for thirty minutes and then hitting the ground face first?
@49divan
@49divan 4 жыл бұрын
James Ford he would get to terminal velocity and hit at that speed
@heldercosta2047
@heldercosta2047 4 жыл бұрын
Loki is a God... He resisted hulk's puny God scene...
@THJAFO
@THJAFO 4 жыл бұрын
@@heldercosta2047 Well technically, he's adopted
@heldercosta2047
@heldercosta2047 4 жыл бұрын
@@THJAFO not helping yourself...
@reachcole514
@reachcole514 4 жыл бұрын
@@THJAFO he's technically half giant
@SavageRabbit666
@SavageRabbit666 4 жыл бұрын
peter Parker learned that lesson the hard way RIP Gwen Stacy, if peter payed attention in math class you would have lived
@PaperbackWizard
@PaperbackWizard 4 жыл бұрын
That's one of my favorite superhero scenes, because it shows that things aren't as "simple" as we the audience would like to believe. Also, the pure emotion of the scene.
@UltraBatshift
@UltraBatshift 4 жыл бұрын
It wasn't really Spidey's fault. If he didn't try to catch her she would have died on impact with the ground.
@StarStream4U
@StarStream4U 4 жыл бұрын
Didn't she die because she smashed her head on the ground, because Spiderman was a bit late to catch her? Or am I thinking of the wrong scene? Because I remember her head bending a little bit upwards after hitting the ground, what would be deadly. If you think about it, spiderman could be one of the superheroes to save you safely if he just applies an amount of flex in his strings of Web like the ropes climbers use, that stretch when you fall, so they still slow down your fall, but not instantaneously like Kyle asks for. Have a nice Weekend and never stop instantaneously
@genkidamatrunks6759
@genkidamatrunks6759 4 жыл бұрын
In the comic the sudden stop snapped her neck.
@goktimusprime
@goktimusprime 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, because in a split second moment to save someone's life you're going to stop and do the maths.
@peterstrib131
@peterstrib131 4 жыл бұрын
have you thought about the superhero potentially swooping in, and grabbing the fall victim in an arc? That should essentially make it so there is enough space to safely decelerate.
@trevtheartistofficial9347
@trevtheartistofficial9347 4 жыл бұрын
Even though you keep ruining superpower for me I still love this channel. I was wondering if Genjutsu can be something possible because in one of your recemt videos you talked about the checker board illusion and that got me thinking
@desjani
@desjani 4 жыл бұрын
Episode idea: Is Superman's power really control over Inertia? Would explain most of his powers such as flight, speed invulnerability, etc.
@Agarwaen
@Agarwaen 4 жыл бұрын
Superman being a kinetiscist is a fairly old idea. It's about the only way anything he does could make any sense unless you live in a universe without newtons laws.
@nightingalepottery5500
@nightingalepottery5500 4 жыл бұрын
(me, having not normal amounts of knowledge on superhero powers)- ya know.. Superman has a sort of force field all the way around his body (and can extend it to other things/people, but it's all subconsciously), but it factors into why he is bullet proof, can't get dirty, ect. (Fact fiend made a video about it a few days ago) Maybe that's how Superman can do it, but other heroes are.. not suited to it. (Rip Gwen Stacy)
@servsent4135
@servsent4135 4 жыл бұрын
I think DC described him as having the capability of distributing his strength through the entirety of objects, Shazam as well. Their strength is more about will than muscle... Thats how Billy could cath the bus by the windshield.
@ferdonandebull
@ferdonandebull 4 жыл бұрын
I was rock climbing and fell using a climbing rope.. I was in a short free fall (very short lol..) There is a built in stretch in the rope... when it caught me I was still “falling” and then I hit the end of the stretch .. It still was a hell of a jerk.. But I really appreciated the elasticity...
@TheDavemarz
@TheDavemarz 4 жыл бұрын
The difference between a static and dynamic rope.
@katherinewolf2241
@katherinewolf2241 4 жыл бұрын
"Hi, I'm the Internet's Kyle Hill." Me: *LIKE*
@DancerOfOblivion
@DancerOfOblivion 4 жыл бұрын
I'd like to point out that Spider-Man (ever since a certain incident with Miss Stacy) has canonically always applied his webs in such a way to have give and act as impromptu nets or bungee cords. Also, you know you showed Gwen Stacy at least twice in today's episode, right?
@Marvelomarv
@Marvelomarv 4 жыл бұрын
@7:18 Kyle, your hair doesn't know how gravity and physics work
@deathsheir2035
@deathsheir2035 4 жыл бұрын
He lives in a void where gravity works differently than our physical reality.
@leyvatein
@leyvatein 4 жыл бұрын
I searched for this kind of comment. Thank you! =)
@josealaridcons5540
@josealaridcons5540 4 жыл бұрын
His hair is that heavy
@popeyjocy
@popeyjocy 4 жыл бұрын
Jose Konz then how is he not bald? Lol
@DragoNate
@DragoNate 4 жыл бұрын
@@popeyjocy Strong scalp and hair roots, of course!
@wolfrider7130
@wolfrider7130 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Kyle what do you think about the scene in Iron Man 3 when Iron man has to save about 10 or so people falling out of a plane? Would having them link together as they fall, combined with dropping them off in the ocean and a slight upward acceleration from Iron Man pulling them really be enough to save them?
@user-wn2ms9nc7r
@user-wn2ms9nc7r 4 жыл бұрын
@Another Faceless Name he used electricity to close their hands so they wouldnt accidentally drop each other so it wasnt up to them to drop someone else
@Averagejoepainting
@Averagejoepainting 4 жыл бұрын
Wait it wouldn’t matter about electrically locking there hands it would still come down to how strong there hand muscles are. If they are not strong enough to maintain the load the grip breaks just like to heavy a load breaks a metal chain
@victorvillalba7401
@victorvillalba7401 4 жыл бұрын
People! Please like this comment so that Kyle answer it in the footnotes! Oh no that's on Twitter right? Put this question there! I wanna know!
@Borealisphoenix
@Borealisphoenix 4 жыл бұрын
A humans muscles are actually stronger than they are allowed to be. Even the weakest (normal healthiness) person has enough potential muscle strength to break their own bones. This can can be seen in people who are effected nerve agents in chemical warfare where they break their own bone from every muscle fiber contracting at one time. Hypothetically if an electrical pulse was to activate ever muscle in their hands all in line they wouldn't possibly be able to hold on but doubly so would be at risk of crushing each persons hand into pulp. We have a built in regulator that prevents us from over using our muscles so we don't damage ourselves. This also happens in the situations where you hear about mothers flipping cars to save a child. The panic turns off this regulation.
@timross5351
@timross5351 4 жыл бұрын
IIRC, that scene was mostly done practically, with skydivers, just editing out any footage of parachutes. So if IM was able to slow them to parachute speeds, then they should be fine.
@Bulvarus
@Bulvarus 4 жыл бұрын
Good voidtime to you Kyle, great show and episode along with greatings from the UK, I have a query, would centrifugal motion not be an easier or better way to save a person? Converting their downward acceleration into horizontal motion and then into upward motion that is then counteracted by gravity, slowing the person down? The individual could be saved at 0.0g at that point.
@GoldAk47
@GoldAk47 4 жыл бұрын
Because science: “This is a B.S PSA” Peter griffin: That means two things!
@xaviourcammon1475
@xaviourcammon1475 4 жыл бұрын
I don’t get it?
@MasterMarioMX
@MasterMarioMX 4 жыл бұрын
Shows scene that people use to debunk heroes catching. Most scientifically acurrate scene for heroes catching.
@Wukong2424
@Wukong2424 4 жыл бұрын
Spiderman's webline's elasticity does help with slowing down before stopping.
@samuelfrye7629
@samuelfrye7629 4 жыл бұрын
Tell that to Gwen.
@aliciacordero7436
@aliciacordero7436 4 жыл бұрын
@@samuelfrye7629 Gwen smashed her head on the ground, if he'd caught her sooner she would've been fine.
@zorglub105
@zorglub105 4 жыл бұрын
@@aliciacordero7436 No, it was (as initially thought) the sudden stopping due to the webline that made her neck snap (it was revealed later that she was already dead when Spidey caught her). But she never hit the floor.
@nyetloki
@nyetloki 2 жыл бұрын
Spiderman is a scientist and his powers actually give him super thinking ability for certain Spider related stuff. He knows and actively adjusts how he saves or catches people because of it. Even in the comics.
@Gunstick
@Gunstick 4 жыл бұрын
Enjoy people falling off a 50m high tower. Would you do that? Any idea how many g the net causes. SCAD tower: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mZazpZWbjaisjLc
@icecubes_for_the_boiling_frogs
@icecubes_for_the_boiling_frogs 4 жыл бұрын
Another problem with many superhero catches is the tendency for the hero's to be racing toward the "victim", often at what seem to be faster than the person is falling. This introduces a lateral force greater than the impact force to the ground. Would a possible work around to these problems be for the hero to start cartwheelling as they catch the falling person, rotating them around themselves so that the force from impact isn't instant, nor is the introduction of a lateral force instant? Just a thought
@wolfrider7130
@wolfrider7130 4 жыл бұрын
“hello, my name is Kyle Hill and I’d like to welcome you to the Joy of Painti- I mean Because Science” ( ;
@becausescience
@becausescience 4 жыл бұрын
I would LOVE to do a Bob Ross parody for an episode -- kH
@goldenknight578
@goldenknight578 4 жыл бұрын
I'd hate to think of those "bad" catches as being nothing more than "Happy Accidents."
@ErnieVox
@ErnieVox 4 жыл бұрын
The Expanse series also shows what happens to the human body.
@thx500
@thx500 4 жыл бұрын
My name is Maneo Jung-Espi----
@tomdeboerio3639
@tomdeboerio3639 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Kyle ! Thank you for bringing this issue. This probably means that the Sokovia Accord should include a clause concerning a super hero saving a falling human. In order for the law to have an effective number, it should probably include the human terminal velocity (55m/s) and an overall "safe" deceleration (for the sake of the argument, let's go with 10G). Based on your math, this gives us approximately 0.56s to safely decelerate a human body from its terminal velocity. With adding a safety value in place, the law could say something like: "In the case of an enhanced individual saving a falling innocent, said individual should prepare for a 1s deceleration after catching the innocent. If this deceleration was possible but not accomplished, any resulting injury should be the enhanced individual responsibility." It may also add that any cellphone could be used as evidence since it seems like in every movie, everybody is faster to pull out a cellphone to film a fall than superman to catch the falling person... We draw faster than lightning ! :-D
@Shazorro
@Shazorro 4 жыл бұрын
I've seen a handful of comments talking about swooping, or changing downward velocity into sideways velocity. I was thinking the same thing. But what if the superhero both slows the fall as Kyle suggests and then changes the direction of the velocity? By translating the downward velocity into sideways velocity with a break fall roll, like those used by parkour practitioners and stunt artists, the impact force will be spread out over a greater amount of time (and surface area). This, in combination with the gradually-slowed-falling technique discussed in the video, would allow our superhero the opportunity to (mostly) harmlessly save a civilian that was already traveling at terminal velocity. Biggest problem I foresee is keeping the flailing legs and arms of said civilian from getting broken when they get rolled over.
@patrickstafford6493
@patrickstafford6493 4 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't the material at the front of the bus have failed and basically fallen THROUGH Shazam! and still crumpled into the ground? Love the show Kyle. If ever you're able to squeeze in a "HEY LIV AND RILEY!!!", my whole family would poop our pants :)
@sarukydraico7397
@sarukydraico7397 4 жыл бұрын
That's exactly what me and my brother instantly thought when we saw the movie
@mx_nana_banana
@mx_nana_banana 4 жыл бұрын
yes, and that's why superman can't save airplanes.
@roberthunter5059
@roberthunter5059 4 жыл бұрын
Pretty soon your claim that Superman can't lift a building by picking up on its edge!
@DavidFrost9992
@DavidFrost9992 4 жыл бұрын
Less through and more around, but yeah. Unless Shazam! is able to spread out his strength like a field to increase the surface area of contact with the bus, the bus would just crash down around him, and he'd be covered in engine and passenger.
@GenJuhru
@GenJuhru 4 жыл бұрын
like a nail to a soda can
@dwanediblie
@dwanediblie 4 жыл бұрын
Next time you do the "falling" stint, film it upsidedown and on your back. Fan from above.
@erikhelmer5421
@erikhelmer5421 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Kyle, great video as always, though I think you'd also need to consider how to catch a falling person. Say that you were falling as per the video and some superhero saved you by catching you in the palm of their hand. Depending on the force, this could crack or even break your ribs. Putting some rough numbers to this; say the force of their palm was divided equally on six of your ribs (this seems reasonable, at least when comparing my palm to my ribs). From what i found from a quick search, human bones can resist some 4 kN before breaking, which would put the maximum force for catching someone in this manner 6 * 4000, or 24 kN. So, for the actual catch: As per your last example, the force would be calculated using Newtons second law: F=m*a. Assuming a male with a mass around 80 kg and an acceleration of 40 g, the force would be around 32 kN, concentrated on a palm sized area of your chest. In comparison, from what i've found, a professional boxer can deliver 4-5 kN of force in a single punch, being delivered in around 60ms, about the same duration as our catch, being 50ms long. This would mean getting caught in a hero's palm after falling 20 m would be like getting punched in the chest by six proffesional boxers at once. The pressure would then be around 3 MPa, which is equivalent to your whole body being crushed by a fully loaded Boeing 747-100. This would smush your chest cavity... ouch. So how about superman catching Louis? Well, this one is harder due to the slight inconsistencies between cuts, though it seems like he's either: 1. just catching her by putting his arm around her, or 2. by putting one arm under her and one arm around her According to case 1, then what I would assume would experience the most stress is her arms/shoulders, neck, and lower spine. Since they stop in about a second and Louis is falling at 55 m/s, the acceleration would be 55 m/s^2. Assuming Louis' mass to be around 65 kg and applying Newtons second law gives us the force applied: 3.6 kN. Since this force is spread out over both of Louis' arms, this would put it safely out of bone breaking territory. However, because superman is only applying force on her upper body, Louis' spine, along with some softer tissues, would have to decelerate her lower body. If the spine accounted for 90% of the deceleration and half of Louis' mass in is her lower body, the force acting on Louis' spine would be around 1.6 kN. A study i found on the tensile strength of the human cervical spine found the tensile strength to be around 1.8 kN to 4.2 kN, depending on surrounding musculature. According to this, Louis' lower spine shouldn't sustain greater damage either. Louis' neck could also take some damage from the rapid acceleration. As she's being caught, it looks like her head is bent backwards. Though I'm not sure how to calculate it (maybe you can help c:), I can't help feeling like stopping from 55 m/s (200 km/h) would do some serious damage to an already extended neck. I suppose you could compare it to going from 200 km/h to 0 km/h in a second while driving, which is the same acceleration as going from 40 km/h to 0 km/h in 0.2 seconds. What Louis is experiencing is then roughly equivalent to being rear-ended at 40 km/h, which does have high risks of whiplash-related injuries. According to case 2, the worst damage she would recieve would most likely be the compression of her spine during the catch. Using the same force as calculated above, her spine would roughly be compressed by 3.6 kN of force. Wether her spine would tolerate this amount of stress isn't really known; according to a study i found, the compressive breaking load of lumbar vertebrae varies between 0.8 kN and 16 kN. To conclude, the way superheroes catch falling people matters a lot. (hmu if I've made any mistakes or for questions)
@Glenadel86
@Glenadel86 4 жыл бұрын
I have an idea for a future episode. Let's talk about Helium and the shortage we have on earth and ways we might possibly be able to "mine" it from space, since space has an abundance of it from the byproduct of the stars (including Sol) fusion reaction.
@drkntkgz
@drkntkgz 4 жыл бұрын
So can we say Iron Man the man for the job considering the scene which people fall from the plane in Iron Man 3?
@ronaldheberlein5823
@ronaldheberlein5823 4 жыл бұрын
That's exactly what I was thinking
@bambilancaster3304
@bambilancaster3304 4 жыл бұрын
not the only example either Starks typically really good for safely saving, I always think of when he saves Pepper by stopping before flying off instead of just flying through and grabbing her
@louis_redz
@louis_redz 4 жыл бұрын
was waiting for science boi to address this scene
@axe693axe
@axe693axe 4 жыл бұрын
My favourite part isn't dismemberment or broken bones, that spot is reserved for concussions. Just think of Quicksilver in (anything but namely) First Class and Apocalypse; everyone would be lying on the ground totally out of it XD
@arav13
@arav13 4 жыл бұрын
*opens pizza box* Ohh what the he *Sweet dreams are made of this* Ck is that noii.....haaaaa where are my arms!!!!
@krucefix
@krucefix 4 жыл бұрын
to be fair flash would be in the same pit, but then again quicksilver's speed could be working like the speedforce, and some sources when flash saves people the speedforce is extending to what ever he is holding/saving, thats why his pants stay on instead of flying off, might be some personal gravity field or something.
@arav13
@arav13 4 жыл бұрын
@@krucefix yeah but Quicksilver has no speed force in the movies or else how could some rando alien energy and ancient God's can stop him?
@jonathonclary1681
@jonathonclary1681 4 жыл бұрын
Another option, particularly in the case where the subject might already have hit terminal velocity, is to catch them while traveling in the same direction of the fall and redirect their momentum. you descend with them and as soon as you've made contact gradually change direction until you're traveling at the same speed but in a safe direction where you can decelerate at a reasonable rate. Again you'll pull some G's doing that but it's not like slapping concrete.
@sirderp4253
@sirderp4253 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Kyle, The death zone for instant impacts on the human body is observed as low as 42Gs, therefore the 60 that shazam exerts on the bus would definitely be fatal. Love the videos btw.
@siddharthnair1958
@siddharthnair1958 4 жыл бұрын
Also to be noted here, it's not just the deccelaration that is the problem with superheroes catching people or other objects it's also how this deccelerating force is applied that can cause serious problems. You are assuming that the person is a point mass which is not really that accurate since most superheroes catch things either with their hands or at most with their arms. This is a huge problem if you are talking about it safety wise. Suppose you have a person that weighs about 70 kilos falling from a building that is say 50 meters tall then the person is going to take around 3.1 seconds to hit the ground. So if we suppose that a superhero on the ground sees the person fall, then they are going to have to have to get from the ground to whichever point they are catching that person with enough time to spare such that they are not going to pull more than 5 gs as they deccelerate ideally. In this specific case that means our superhero has at most 2.4 seconds to get to falling person from the instant they start falling. Assuming the superhero travels up to the person with a uniform velocity, then at the point of contact the relative velocity between the superhero and the falling person will be around 32.6 m/s. Now suppose the point of contact is just two average sized hands, that gives a total contact surface area of around 0.108 sq meters. This is throws in an additional problem in to the mix, because this small surface area means that large amount of pressure is going to be exerted on the points of contact. In this case already it's really dangerous. Since at the instance of the catch both hero and falling person won't be moving with the same velocity, and there is going to be a very small window where this relative velocity will have to go to zero. It should be noted that this time is going to be much smaller than the whole decent. If suppose the time is something like 0.1 seconds, then our falling person in this case is being subjected to 3260 N of force and a pressure of 30,000 Pa. This is actually enough to crack someone's ribcage or cause serious damage to the spinal chord or do similar sorts of damage. And for some reason that seems to be the only two ways superheroes know how to catch people. You would be much better off going for the leg, specifically the thigh. Since the femur can actually take a lot more pressure before it cracks, and it's also long enough that the hero doesn't run the risk of applying this pressure on any joint directly.
@james_xl_quest7251
@james_xl_quest7251 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Kyle Great episode :) I know most super heroes are saving us wrong. However, does that mean Tony Stark in Ironman 3 saved the flight crew the correct way, or at least, a more realistic way. Would that many people falling, all holding hands, in positions that that create the most wind resistance, and being guided to the water work at all? Or would the impact with the water put everyone in the hospital rather than having them wave goodbye to Ironman? Take Care and Be Well
@manamongmen3381
@manamongmen3381 4 жыл бұрын
I'm more concerned with their arms getting ripped out. if you've heard of a wingsuit, there are people who can land those without a parachute, so the concept is more than possible, it's been done. But with most of the lift provided by the mark 42, and the increased horizontal speed needed to compensate for the lack of wing suit, I'm not sure the ligaments will be able to hold. maybe with four people, but probably not the group of several that he had.
@james_xl_quest7251
@james_xl_quest7251 4 жыл бұрын
@@manamongmen3381 with the lack of wingsuit being key, so slowing down would be difficult, say the "static charge" used strengthened their limbs to accommodated the strain, what speed would they hit the water? Only human surface area to slow them down, would the water landing be survivable?
@manamongmen3381
@manamongmen3381 4 жыл бұрын
Landing in the water would be survivable, as they would be going faster horizontally than vertically, thus skimming it until they slow down enough to sink, though it would likely still be dangerous. I don't have the patience to do the math right now though. There is definitely a chance it's lethal.
@stevencastle60
@stevencastle60 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Kyle! Thanks for another fun episode! Quick question - would Spider-Man have a better chance at saving falling civilians at the "last second" using rotational momentum? Spidey's webs are naturally a little more elastic than Man of Steel arms for a start, but more specifically, could Spider-Man attach a web to a falling person, then attach the other end to some X point on a nearby building, causing the falling person to change the momentum of their velocity from straight down to the ground into a parabola, not causing such a drastic change in speed as to injure them, but to avoid the ground? I guess the question I'm asking is, if the fall changes from a straight line down to a parabola, can the radius of that theoretical circle be smaller than the minimum distance Superman would need if he decelerated straight down to the ground? I'm much more a comic book nerd than a physicist, so I'm really asking. lol
@Herowebcomics
@Herowebcomics 4 жыл бұрын
It is about time that someone talked about this! And now you need to talk about Princess Elise in Sonic 06 and how she should have been a cartoon hedgehog like Sonic instead of a human and how that would have helped her survive with real life physics!
@vermemmeadsf
@vermemmeadsf 4 жыл бұрын
Kyle - "This is a BS PSA" Me - "i will comment about this meaning 2 things" BS means bull $h1t
@OldSchoolZ-wy2yx
@OldSchoolZ-wy2yx 4 жыл бұрын
That pun alone was worth a thumbs up. I just love his sense of humor
@CrimsonCatalyst
@CrimsonCatalyst 4 жыл бұрын
Lol I love that
@vermemmeadsf
@vermemmeadsf 4 жыл бұрын
Tes
@dragonfury1565
@dragonfury1565 4 жыл бұрын
Vermemme asdf I don’t get it .3.’
@vermemmeadsf
@vermemmeadsf 4 жыл бұрын
@@dragonfury1565 bs means bull shi*
@Zolfried
@Zolfried 4 жыл бұрын
its funny how the bus would crumble if it hit the concrete, but when shazam catches it, focusing the point of impact to the size of 2 hands, the bus stays whold and doesn't even bulk in around his hand.. that said, this episode reminds me alot about game theory and the recent spiderman game.. how spiderman is killing everyone :D
@gabrielelachioma8911
@gabrielelachioma8911 4 жыл бұрын
HELLOOOOOO LOVE THE CHANNEL!! I bingewatch all yours video all the time :) btw a little comment/question: instead of just decrease the fall falling with us it should be bette apply a perpendicular force (while embracing us or with the web in the case of spiderman) so the falling person could have more trajectory, then more time for the fall to be decresed? something like i slide no? (btw sorry for bad english in case :P )
@somedude1771
@somedude1771 4 жыл бұрын
Suggestion time :D I've been watching for years and love it. I would love to see how modern tech today beats out starwars tech. I keep hearing that because it's 70s future tech it, it lacks in in comparison to ours in some unique ways. Just the internet for one example. A.i. for another. I have trouble getting anymore than that though. But I'm sure you can come up with some other interesting points. :) Cheers!
@javiernicolasbustamantecor9382
@javiernicolasbustamantecor9382 4 жыл бұрын
The BecauseScience Accords-a document to ensure heroes stop being brute force and become actual life savers
@poweroffriendship2.0
@poweroffriendship2.0 4 жыл бұрын
_SUPERHEROES ARE SAVING US WRONG..._ *Tighten (Megamind):* Hold my beer
@MrKingofbos
@MrKingofbos 4 жыл бұрын
Love this, I have always thought what about redirecting there momentum? Like When a Gymnast flip off the uneven bars from the top catches the bottom bar with the back of knees and does a swing over the bottom bar, letting go as there head passes the floor and starts to go up doing a half flip and cancel all forward momentum to land on the feet standing still. I.e. same as line of People tossing Heavy sand bags to one and another by tossing in arc , the next person catches as the bag loses its zero g and begins to start coming down. ^They take bag which is less the it's total weight, in a downward arc, increasing speed and releases in a slight upward to the next person. Thus each person on feels full weight of bag at bottom of swing and not the catch or release. I hopes this makes sense.Not sure of the actual math, But I imagine a hero grabs two handed on clothing shoulder and the rear (heh heh) and as the victim come toward them, swings them head down and around; releasing them up so forward momentum is canceled by gravity and a simple catch (non steel arm Catch of downward momentum catch) could be done by nearly anyone or even they could land safely on there own feet if upward momentum cancelation of upward trajectory is not to high? Your thoughts Sir?
@wyverman
@wyverman 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Kyle! Love the show! I was wondering... as an alternative, wouldn't a parabola be helpful in catching a fallen victim? This way, the distance to catch someone would increase giving it more time to come to a full stop. Right?
@JROwensPhotos
@JROwensPhotos 4 жыл бұрын
So, Kyle (or is that Ky-El?), while I'm sitting here, leg up after I did my knee in falling off a bouldering wall just 2-3 metres (when a metre makes a difference, do you measure from centre of mass to ground, or feet to ground?)... In that Shazam! bus catch, as I was watching it, and the bus passengers were falling through the bus towards its windshield, I really thought they might have a darker moment, and they might just fall right through the windshield, adding all the broken glass cuts to the sudden stop at the end outside the windshield (maybe not such a thing with modern vehicle glass; we're not talking plate glass windows here). But no, they chickened out, and had them land 'safely' on the glass, although I think it started cracking just enough for drama. I'd also note that, if you're looking to give them an out if the bus had hit the ground with the body crush distance (BUS body, not passenger body!), you might take into account that it should have crushed as much and more from Captain Marv- I mean, Shazam's catching it, with the force distributed over a much smaller area, basically cutting through the bus while slowing it down, until it hits the ground anyway and Capta- Shazam finds himself standing in the bus, its shattered windshield (whether or not from falling passengers) around him. Final note, way back in my nerdy days (who am I kidding?), playing superhero role-playing games, I had a hero character with gravity-based superpowers named Terminal Velocity. OK, maybe more of an anti-hero, in today's parlance. Emphasis on the 'terminal' part. Love the show; I guess you could say I've really fallen for it! Augh, my knee!
@phatdookie4207
@phatdookie4207 4 жыл бұрын
*I was just thinking about this while watching Megamind. Titan would have ripped the reporter lady's foot from her body when he "saved her".*
@Daemonworks
@Daemonworks 4 жыл бұрын
And he'd still have expected gratitude.
@ararepotato1420
@ararepotato1420 4 жыл бұрын
"Ha, I saved yo- WHAT THE F ROXANNE!? YOU AREN'T SUPPOSED TO DIE WHEN I SAVE YOU. You could've just said, I don't know, thanks before you bite the dust."
@jafceeadnakjebxownrnsjsydo
@jafceeadnakjebxownrnsjsydo 4 жыл бұрын
I saw a comment about Loki falling for “30 minutes” and wanted to respond. I think there are two reasons Loki or is fleshy humans might survive such a fall. 1) when we see Loki disappear thanks to Dr. Strange we don’t know where he goes. If he went to somewhere where there are no forces to act on him then he would continue to move at the speed the enters the portal without accelerating until he exits. This could total maybe 2 seconds of fall time. 2) He may have been falling under lesser gravity or thicker air. Under this condition Loki would reach terminal velocity much faster and (assuming gravity weak enough or air thick enough) would me moving far slower then if he had spent that time falling through the regular atmosphere.
@TodlicheVerwuste
@TodlicheVerwuste 4 жыл бұрын
"This is a B.S. P.S.A" You had coffee flowing out of my nose when that popped up!! 😝😂😆🔥👀😶
@Badkarma_locohijodeputa
@Badkarma_locohijodeputa 4 жыл бұрын
An object which is falling through the atmosphere is subjected to two external forces. One force is the gravitational force, expressed as the weight of the object. The other force is the air resistance or drag of the object. If the mass of an object remains constant, the motion of the object can be described by Newton's second law of motion, force F equals mass m times acceleration a: F = m * a which can be solved for the acceleration of the object in terms of the net external force and the mass of the object: a = F / m Weight and drag are forces which are vector quantities. The net external force F is then equal to the difference of the weight W and the drag D F = W - D The acceleration of a falling object then becomes: a = (WD) / m The magnitude of the drag is given by the drag equation. Drag D depends on a drag coefficient Cd, the atmospheric density r, the square of the air velocity V, and some reference area A of the object. D = Cd * r * V ^2 * A / 2
@redsiren5729
@redsiren5729 4 жыл бұрын
I love this show. It's so good! Lol. When he kept catching the animation.. it was adorable.
@NotThatGuy_YepThatGuy
@NotThatGuy_YepThatGuy 4 жыл бұрын
"That conductor is conduct-ed" BRILLIANT
@colinnapieralski8962
@colinnapieralski8962 4 жыл бұрын
The end of show, random shout out really got me this week. I'm Colin, I live in Milwaukee, I did a spit take and now I'm cleaning my work monitor.
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