SUPERMAN and Krypto Backlash, SPIDER-MAN 4, VENOM 3 and KRAVEN NYCC Updates | THE GEEK BUDDIES

[@adeolaatitebi4575]

You had me dying of laughter Outlaw, when you showed the picture of Zack Snyder's Krypto with a gun. Funny as hell.

[@JohnRochaSays]

Ha! I love Snyder but I can also recognize a good joke when I see one.

[@jonburkhart8429]

Been watching the Geek Buddies forever and this might be one of my favorite episodes. You guys had me laughing out loud a few times. Great energy

[@JohnRochaSays]

@@jonburkhart8429 Thank you for watching!

[@jonburkhart8429]

@@JohnRochaSays You and Kristian have been a part of my weekly routine since the AMC days. I'll try to send in some support when I can but keep up the great work Outlaw!

[@T61974]

this episode is hysterical

[@Aussie27Legend]

"Gee, why is a gun just sitting here on the table..."

[@tonyrl5375]

You guys had me rolling! Always a great time with The Geek Buddies.

[@Vulcanerd]

Congrats on your commercial, Shannon!

[@jedibilly]

Your intro not cheesy at all! It always make me smile! That hater can crawl back into his mom's basement. 🤣

[@LazyEyeNZ]

Exactly! I love the Geek Buddies intro. Whoever complains about it can gtfoh

[@Charlierose214]

Congratulations Shannon !!!

[@LazyEyeNZ]

Oh wow Geek Buddies on a Monday morning. Thank you team, looking forward to listening to this as I hit the gym.

[@NerdsEngage]

Superman 78' was a fish out of water tale. Lois constantly clowns on his "Gee Golly Wiz" dialogue, and New York/Metropolis is a culture shock coming from Kansas. That film still holds up all by following the source material. Hopefully the 2025 version restores some much needed hope.

[@sreyangovender3404]

Batdog v Superdog: Dawn of Paw Patrol

[@Vulcanerd]

Marthadog!!

[@manuelalbertoromero9528]

Why did you bark that name!?​@@Vulcanerd

[@MoramothHauntz]

I'm hoping for Topo the octopus

[@clarissa182]

CONGRATULATIONS, Shannon!!! 🎉👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾🤗

[@JScotty4Reel]

Trailers, trailers, TRAILERS!

[@blackrock316]

What I have noticed when it comes to the amount of characters that is going to be in the Superman movie is the fact that we don't even know what the run time is going to look like. If the runtime turns out to be around 2hrs and 20 to 30 minutes long where it's paced right, the movie should be fine.

[@Aussie27Legend]

I'm feeling like a 150-160 runtime

[@Wolfhunter5607]

also no idea what the plot is and who’s doing what

[@blackrock316]

@@Wolfhunter5607 correct

[@whogg0521]

Congrats Shannon!

[@brickstudman]

If Tom Hardy fights a version of Spider-Man i'd like it to be Garfield. He's the only one who hasn't fought an alien yet and he wanted to.Their ages are closer together too than Holland

[@sreyangovender3404]

'Things can always be improven...' 😅😂

[@RokBraker]

Venom and Spidey meet on Battleworld: "Hey - cool suit" "Thanks - one minute, we're gonna eat that guy's head" Fight!

[@WedgeOfSpite]

But Gunn's Superman film has The Authority, which as was pointed out, inherently dark. And from his Suicide Squad film, and Peacemaker series, clearly the guy isn't going to get rid of the dark completely.

[@Vulcanerd]

Man, did Shannon poop on Michael and Rocha's pancakes or something?? The claws were out for poor ol' Shannon today 😅

[@JohnRochaSays]

Ah we all take turns on the rack in our friendship. Lol

[@fredtastik314]

Excellent episode GEEK BUDDIES! FUNNY! INFORMATION! BALL-BUSTING TOO! I was good Snoke as well as Klaue. Super Dog however...

[@louissanchez4073]

As far as KRYPTO…. 2 words = Rocket and Groot

[@JohnRochaSays]

@@louissanchez4073 That’s three words.

[@Aussie27Legend]

And some more: Eagly, Cosmo, Sebastian The Rat (even king shark if we want to be thorough), almost always the animal/anthromorph are the best parts of his filmography

[@louissanchez4073]

@@JohnRochaSays 🤣🤣

[@knightatthemovies2707]

35:23 - Wait till Harloff hears about the budget for The Electric State

[@pmmcgovern]

I can't wait to see B-roll of Shannon living his best life while someone reads a list of potential side effects. 😂 I kid, congrats Shannon!

[@parsman9914]

Zack Snyder’s Krypto is awesome 😂😂😂

[@Aussie27Legend]

Congrats shannon! (until he rocks up to set and theo rossi is his screen-partner haha). EDIT: Me and vogel have the same opinion on longlegs (and Superman seemingly) i see, also i wish electric state actually looked like that first thumbnail and not what it actually looks like.

[@gustavoolivieri6568]

"Where is the Batman??" He's crying in the Batcave, man... Selina left Gotham... He's thinking about committing suicide in Italy...

[@bigd4998]

You guys always entertaining haha And always enjoy the intro ❤

[@SerenityValley84]

I didn't love any of the Werewolf trailers we got recently, I like the idea behind Leigh Whannell's and I loved Invisible Man, but that trailer and the trailer for Werewolves with Frank Grillo didn't really grab me. The Dune: Prophecy trailer combined with the reviews for Penguin might just get me to sign up for MAX. Grats on booking a commercial Shannon!!

[@365irocc]

Absolutely loved this episode 😂😂😂😂

[@commandZee]

My favorite MCU and DC films have all been by him, so I'm gonna reserve my judgements on James Gunn's creative direction until the projects are out. As for Krypto, on paper Eagly in _Peacemaker_ sounds ridiculous but it works-Hell, most of _Peacemaker_ sounds ridiculous on paper, but the show is an R-rated heart warming blast.

[@manuelalbertoromero9528]

I don’t mind Krypto. If he works within the context of the film, I'm cool with it.

[@BusterBarnes]

You wouldn't be saying there are too many characters if they all had different names we weren't already familiar with, the fact we all already are familiar with versions of characters being DC fans gives us the impression they will all have major parts which probabky isnt the case. If anything Kryptos involvement will be similar to Kosmo The characters are hear to build Supermans story. I'll trust that until the movie comes out

[@JohnRochaSays]

DC fans will show up. You're not who they need. It's the casuals who DON'T know these characters that they need to get in there to make real money.

[@BusterBarnes]

@JohnRochaSays Krypto is probably a big part of trying to get that mainstream appeal. The trailers will be very important that's for sure

[@crystall.411]

I think there is a better chance we see Catwoman appear in this season because of her connection with Sofia.

[@tsheporabekane4172]

People worried about Krypto and how it's going to be executed, act like there has never been a dog featured in any movie in history... Even when we just had Cosmo and talking animals in GOTG3... 💁

[@BusterBarnes]

@@tsheporabekane4172 facts

[@southnewton1]

Backlash?

[@ThomasHolt-m1j]

@southnewton1 There isn't any. They put controversy and drama in the title so they get clicks.

[@megafan1906]

"How do you make Krypto work"-John John, this is the same director who made the world fall in love with a talking Raccon and Talking tree. Like to even doubt James Gunn regarding animals in a movie is crazy thinking.

[@gavinmcbride3722]

thanks for another great show 👍

[@truboss9470]

Always a great discussion between the three of you guys. The someone who was in High school when the Snyder Era of DC was happening I can personally attest to us kids not being into the edgy version of Superman and Batman. I grew up a DC kid reading killing joke and Hush so yeah DC should be dark but it just went way too far on top of not being written very well. (Yes, even 16 year olds hated the Martha scene)

[@famousthaneus9810]

1:08:03 I'm so confused by this point, because that can be applied to Kraven (and your points for Kraven to Silver Sable) and you said you're interested in that. I'm personally not mad at Sony doing stuff with these characters because I'm under no belief that Marvel would give them any shine if they had the rights, and while I'd much prefer these projects be hits, the fact that they're getting live-action projects at all is cool to me.

[@C-Bee]

I just don’t need a cynical Superman movie but I’m sure that element will be there with Lex and the other heroes in the film.

[@BusterBarnes]

@C-Bee I'm guessing part of the premise will be that heros like Superman aren't needed as we live in a world that needs more brutal authority. That will probably present some darkness I'm guessing but we'll see

[@adamjimenez9003]

I dont think we need Krypto's backstory, hes a dog we will automatically care for him just cause hes a dog have a fee scenes where Clark plays with him or somethin and thats all we need, i dont think he will be integral to the plot or anything. I will say, much like you, Rocha, I am also a fan of Snyder DC universe and just like you said that one of the many reasons i liked it was because it felt different in its approach and this Superman will be diferent, so i am very much loiking forwars to this movie

[@ThisIntrovertLife]

I don’t mind Krypto being included in the Superman movie but I do share the concern of so many characters being introduced in this movie. I hope James Gunn isn’t turning Superman into Guardians of the galaxy with all these “weird/fringe” characters. I would dread that!!!!!

[@derekjohnson9121]

What Mike said is accurate, I'm getting the feeling this is an over correction. I'll wait and see but it feels like to huge a turn

[@SeriousBlack1026]

The whole discourse around kyrpto and the movie in general just shows me that folks really dont know superman for real outside of the snyderverse or his depiction in the injustice games people want kal el to be more like homelander or omni man smh 😂.

[@zacharyalanlean]

Yeh it’s hilarious that people don’t see Superman as the walking embodiment of hope. He was made so dark too early in the Snyder cut

[@JohnRochaSays]

As a guy who grew up with Superman from 1978 when you weren't even born yet, I'm confused at how you can make a comment like that. The real issues is that we've had DECADES UPON DECADES of the big Blue Boy Scout version of Superman. Snyder's version was not dark. The film had a dark look, but Superman was not dark. Injustice is a video game so that doesn't count to me. But those two versions are unique so people wanted more of that because, as I said, we've had DECADES of the midwestern farm boy always doing the right thing.

[@BusterBarnes]

@SeriousBlack1026 Most of this "discourse" and "backlash" is pretty miniscule tbh. We are in a specific section of DC Internet (X) where everything is an argument. Generally most people are excited for Krypto, similar thing happened with the Aaron Pierre casting, different complaints obviously, but it was a very minor section that were spreading the negativity

[@Scrapluv]

@@JohnRochaSays I thought he was agreeing with you, but maybe I'm wrong.

[@Poisonous_Plants15]

I love how everyone gives Markus & Mcfeely all the credits for Infinity War/Endgame as if there wasnt like 6 uncredited writers on both films

[@raph3767]

Lmao John, we did NOT have time with Rocket and Groot's backstory in GOTG1. Hell we didn't get Rocket's backstory until GOTG3, and we STILL don't have ANY backstory on Groot, outside of being an alien that looks like a tree... You're reaching bro.

[@JohnRochaSays]

It was very clear that they had a previous relationship and we saw the hooks on Rocket's back from where he had been experimented on and we saw his reaction to possibly losing Groot. Did you watch the movie??

[@manuelalbertoromero9528]

​@@JohnRochaSaysIt matters little either way. I understood enough about them in the first film to care about them. Any fleshing out of them in the following films was just the cherry in the cake.

[@JohnRochaSays]

@@manuelalbertoromero9528 Exactly. So they did a good job of giving you enough of each of those characters to care about and connect to them. That was only 5 characters. How many more characters are in this one because it’s much more than 5.

[@raph3767]

​@@JohnRochaSayslol and that is absolutely ZERO backstory... Us seeing Clark love his dog Krypto, with his superpowers, is the equivalent of backstory rocket and groot had. Krypto and other side characters need to be written well, don't need to be fleshed out in the first movie. EVERY movie has other characters, the difference is that Superman's friends and acquaintances come with powers.

[@JohnRochaSays]

@@raph3767 Ok. Believe what you like.

[@louissanchez4073]

Sony-verse is the ABSOLUTE definition of CASH-GRAB….

[@acevedoe]

I have not heard anyone mentioning but based on the images, James Gunn seems to be going for a Bruce Timm tone with an edge.

[@whaleguy]

We got Lizard in the Spidey movies. Man-Bat is basically the same thing 🙂

[@Scimarad]

Seriously, The Electric State could not look further from the tone and content of what is a very melancholy and moody artbook. I'd really, really recommend anyone read that book. I mean even give the artwork and story a google and tell me this looks like a worthy adaption. I don't think the robots are even really a thing in the book as they are drones rather than AIs. It's more about people losing themselves to technology and virtual reality. One thing I remember about Mark Strong is that when he was on Mark Kermode and Simon Mayo's movie review show on Radio 5 he said some actors get an 'And' credit but he should he get a 'But Mark Strong' :)

[@elijahcity6239]

I'm not A Krypto fan I AM A SUPERMAN FAN

[@mikepatton7577]

Here's my theory: Superman will give Krypto to Supergirl in a post credit scene so Supergirl's movie can happen.

[@gsarngad]

The only thing I'm worried about with Dune Prophecy is it's based on a novel by Brian Herbert and Kevin J. Anderson and they're Executive Producers on the show. I've read all of Frank Herbert's books multiple times, starting when I was in junior high; I was excited in 1999 when they said Brian was going to finish the seventh book, which was in progress when Frank died in 1986, but then he and Kevin wrote like 17 volumes of YA garbage before getting to it. (In their defense, I only got through 1.5 of their books before writing them off; maybe in the fullness of time they improved.)

[@thechewatson]

It’s funny isn’t it that there can be no definitive vision of superman. The character has evolved and changed so many times in almost 100 years. I feel John Byrne is my ultimate classic “this is what superman is” but I’m sure others have their own. I’ve never seen my version of superman done properly and I feel I never will

[@owenharrison761]

So about the contracts, what Elizabeth said isn't wrong. Although she didn't say it because of Dr Strange 2, but it was because while she was in several Marvel projects she couldn't do other more serious roles. Now, this isn't always possible, Tom Cruise making a contract is not the same as a type B or C actor, for example Chris Evan could not have done that when he made Cap 1, but What they should do is make contracts with a certain freedom to do other projects. Look at simu liu or chirs Hemsworth and his career after shag chi and thor 4.

[@famousthaneus9810]

If you look at her IMDb page, she was in a decent bit of indie stuff between Wanda's MCU debut and MoM. Not to say that scheduling didn't interfere at all, but it didn't prevent her entirely

[@thomasedwards1512]

I have read Dune and wasn't a fan but gave the movies a chance but didn't work for me and found the ending done better in the books, not interested in Dune: Prophecy.

[@aaronthecreative3041]

Idc about Krypto that much but I feel like Gunn is making things more difficult for this movie which already has enough pressure on it to be a box office hit by adding all these characters n one movie.

[@Darrenleewright84]

just saying this week ive seen all of shrinking amd love death n robots. i need 24 hrs in a dark room to recover

[@JessieBanana]

While I did not like the Snydercerae, even if you did, do you really want an imitation of his vision? It makes sense to me that in a back to back reboot, especially following up a universe with such a lack of financial success. This signals something different and perhaps will audiences back on board. If it’s done well, darkness can be reincorporated through other characters or even just the storyline.

[@philrm99]

Sofia's having peaceful dreams about putting a bullet in Oswald's head 😄

[@louissanchez4073]

Vogel and Shannon are right…tho i think they have wasted all these character…

[@David-3am]

Flowers for Algershan'non

[@clarissa182]

From the moment they dropped the first Superman poster, I was just like, "Whatever...". I was never a Superman girlie growing up. Like my mom would watch the Christopher Reeves movies when I was kid, but I never took to the character or the movies like I did with Batman (LOVE Batman). I did however love Cavill as Superman and wished he'd got a fair chance to really do the character justice because I thought he was great. I don't think I really loved a single movie from the Synderverse films (except his cut of JL), but I enjoyed them enough. But there is definitely something about these drops Gunn is doing for this new film that has me completely uninterested. I hated the logo. I hated the first poster, the suit fitting, and this Krypto poster was just there. I guess I'm just not drawn to the goodie two shoes boy scout style of heroing. Regardless, I'll still check it out when it drops because it's James Gunn.

[@andothersuchnonsense2685]

I love The Electric State. The trailer for the Netflix adaptation looks so entirely divorced from the original Simon Stålenhag artwork. Despite some of the designs being 1 to 1 copies, they've managed to lose the entire mood of the art book. All the depression and forlorn sadness is absent here. Simon Stålenhag's name wasn't even mentioned in the trailer, which is simultaneously infuriating but also maybe for the best? Tales From the Loop wasn't the best series ever made, but it managed to capture all the things Electric State is missing, but it didn't have Chris Pratt playing himself for the 50th time and it didn't ask me to watch Millie Bobby Brown attempt to act.

[@smag5689]

Superman looks great! Need to move on from Frank Miller-ized, emo, daddy issues Superman.

[@TK_Brainslug]

I'm with Vogel, Zack Snyder should never have the rains of DCEU in the first place

[@sreyangovender3404]

Blasphemous!

[@gohanson27]

Same as James Gunn. Writers/Directors if not managed carefully will get in their own way. After 300 and Watchmen WB thought Snyder is perfect. After Guardians WB thinks Gunn is perfect. We need a producer

[@JohnRochaSays]

@@TK_Brainslug Reins not Rains. 😏

[@HTHAMMACK1]

@@gohanson27 300 was crap and Watchmen was mediocre as hell. Snyder is a hack.

[@sreyangovender3404]

​@@HTHAMMACK1 Watchman (2009) is one of the greatest superhero adaptations in my mind 👌

[@CrashingCoyote_]

Vogel…. Do u not understand that Batman is human and doesn’t have superpower Vogel understands this takes place 1-2 weeks after the Batman BATMAN GOT SHOT BY A POINT BLANK SHOTGUN SHOT HE DEF HAS BROKEN RIBS AND IS RECOVERING

[@louissanchez4073]

And them looking at the USA?!? Truth Justice and the American Way yall….

[@el_covfefe]

I agree with Rocha about thw amount of characters in Superman. For me I'm waiting to see how Gunn will make Superman the focus when you have so many people in this film.

[@BusterBarnes]

@el_covfefe Well in all the leaked set photos and images Superman is always there present so here's hoping 🤞🏻

[@nerdywilliams]

i must say Russo brothers have had nothing but mediocre movies outside of MCU , kind of supports my theory that MCU relies on crossover appeal and not originality in any way or they would have had some sort of success post Marvel ! And thats why they are back with Feige, they can smell the checks run dry

[@Ben1159a]

Yeah Krypto.... so that's 20 or 30 million the movie wont make.

[@tsheporabekane4172]

There was no darkness in Deadpool 3, or Venom, or Tom Holland Spiderman outside of aunt May dying, and those movies worked for their crowd. Why does Superman have to be Dark? He's not Batman... 😅

[@sreyangovender3404]

Venom was diabolically bad 👎

[@tsheporabekane4172]

@@sreyangovender3404 I agree with you, I personally disliked all the Venom movies, but all of made over $700 million each. So clearly they worked for their target audience... 👌🏾

[@JohnRochaSays]

Wait....Wolverine caused the death of his world, witnessed the death of his friends and is deeply tortured by it. Wade is about to lose his entire friends and family if he doesn't stop that TVA guy. Johnny Storm has his skin ripped off his body and dies. And Cassandra Nova probes the minds of the people she captures with her fingers violating their thoughts against their will basically raping their minds. But you want to tell me that this film wasn't fucking dark????? Are you kidding me???? LOL

[@parsman9914]

@@JohnRochaSays Right?

[@tsheporabekane4172]

​I hear you Mr Rocha, and I agree that those things you mention were indeed in the movie. However, we never got to see Wolverine lose his friends, and there were themes of death the entire movie sure... But All these deaths were done in a light-hearted, humourous tone - just like the deaths in Thor Love And Thunder. Having deaths or themes of death, does not make a movie "dark". Thor Love And Thunder spoke about cancer, which is a dark topic, but it was handled in a humourous way💁🏾‍♂️. Venom eats people, but it is handled in a light-hearted manner, to further prove my point. So, I say that not everything has to be dark and gritty for people to enjoy especially not the hopefully Superman. 👌🏾​@@JohnRochaSays

[@jarvisjones3684]

😮Appreciate what y'all do but y'all beat that damn joke into the ground 🤦🏿‍♂️

[@Galactus_1453]

I think perhaps time stamps might be a nice addition to your episodes. It makes it easy to skip spoilery stuff.

[@JohnRochaSays]

Time stamps have been on there since I posted it. I have no idea what you're talking about. Maybe look in the description for the time codes so you see what we're talking about.

[@Galactus_1453]

@@JohnRochaSaysWeird. When I looked there weren’t any there, hence my comment. Hmmm. It’s all good in the neighborhood, hermano.

[@louissanchez4073]

Gross

[@louissanchez4073]

No MORE ENTERTAINING SONY SPIDER-LESS UNIVERSE!!!! Junkiest movies EVER ….lobotomy mindset