Suppressor Stuff Ep 3 - Surefire SOCOM556-RC3: Backpressure & Flash Test

[@optimal2222]

Looks like the knights is the winner here in these supressors. It comes at a weight penalty but other attributes may be more important

[@Rdctd6969]

man mk262 out of the 16" barrel is actually insane. I know i made 3 comments but this video has been the best. I will continue to be a loyal customer bro. Hope you and the Mrs. are doing well.

[@miles6136]

Killer work with the whole series!

[@RooftopDefense]

I appreciate your feedback, my guy!

[@jlnerd3]

RC3 performs so differently than RC2. Appreciate the oppurtunity to easily compare.

[@GodAmoungMen85]

Can't believe I just discovered the Based Korean's YT! Keep up the good work amigo!

[@RooftopDefense]

There is definitely more to come, dude!

[@navyman8903]

Excellent work on all of these, i really appreciate you putting in yhe work. Which reminds me i have to put in an order.

[@RooftopDefense]

I appreciate you and your patronage -- as well as your awesome videos, dude!

[@thawackie2]

Funny that the video is 5:56 long

[@cupcakefights]

Did anyone else notice that even the unsuppressed SAW footage is way more flashy in this vid than that of the RC2?

[@spacepirate1955]

seems like this video is taking later in the day where there is less light from the sun, camera is picking up flash a lot easier.

[@RooftopDefense]

That's correct, the 249 portions tend to cause some decent flash, but this particular RC3 sequence is a little exaggerated just due to the time of day. However, the flash testing footage has been taken in equally dark times and universal across the board.

[@Danyello_0]

Yes because it’s footage and the audio can’t handle the extreme decibels from unsuppressed saw. The suppressed saw is more realistic sound than the unsuppressed. Your watching a video basically

[@slavmuttgunslinger3012]

Looking forward to ordering an upper from you guys when I move

[@RooftopDefense]

We'll certainly be here when you're ready, dude :)

[@ZachAttack2U]

the KAC CRS-PRT spanked the RC3 in thermal dissipation and flash signature. However, the PRT is 2.2 oz heavier, and has a slightly more gas blowback based on the full auto 100 round tests {RC3 = 5.3% increase in RoF vs PRT = 8.5%}. The PRT is slightly shorter though... But with the price of both being equal at $1,800, I would hands down take the KAC over the Surefire.... What do you guys think? I am also curious how the sound suppression compares to one another... That's an important factor to consider. PRT rates the reduction to 24 Db / but I don't know that the RC3 Db rating is.

[@sagar42095]

Thanks for this comment I needed this exactly!👍

[@sagar42095]

Also, I don’t know anyone else that can answer this question, is the increase rate of fire once shooting suppressed a pro or a con?

[@ZachAttack2U]

@@sagar42095 The increased fire rate stems from the increase in back pressure of a suppressor. The higher the back pressure, the faster the fire rate. For almost all applications a low back pressure can is better. It forces the toxic gases and lead particles out the front of the muzzle and not back in your face. Poorly gassed ARs can burn your eyes and can be harmful to your health. Most modern suppressors offer some version of a "Flow Through Can" or a low back pressure can. There are pros and cons to each, but generally, a flow thru can is preferred... And the suppressor market is currently heading in that direction.

[@45calibermedic]

​@sagar42095 It is technically a con, it means that the suppressor is causing back pressure in the system as gasses exit the barrel and it is making the action slam back faster (harder). This means faster wear on components and it means that you will get some gas vented toward you which can be unpleasant, especially shooting more than a few rounds indoors. The reality is that all suppressors generate some back pressure and you can tune a gun to not run too hard with a traditionally baffled suppressor like the Rc2 (choking down your gas port can also help some with blowback). The Rc3 and flow 556k are flow-through designs that trade a little noise suppression downrange for very little back pressure (you don't have to do tuning to optimize them because they don't make the gun run much faster than normal and gas vented back to your face isn't an issue with them). Again, every can has some back pressure, it's about if you want to have to deal with it or want to more or less avoid it. Tuning for reliability suppressed and unsuppressed with a traditionally baffled can will usually mean you will deal with the gun running at least somewhat harder suppressed and get some gas to the face. You can tune to be only reliable suppressed and thus cut cycling speed increase and gas to the face way down, but that is up to you. A flow through can basically eliminates the need for these dilemmas and may be the way of the future for autoloading fighting rifle suppressors, judging by their success in the market and with major manufacturers like Surefire. Bolt guns have more flexibility in this arena. Hope this helps.

[@bendummer642]

Fantastic video - thank you for sharing this! Why do you think some suppressors like the RC3 and Velos glowed so much after the 100 rounds, whereas the baffle cans were much less red? I would have expected the baffle cans to glow more since they're trapping gasses without a convenient egress point.

[@iwi2ench745]

Awwww mann I want that so bad. Been modifying mine to have a heavier buffer because I keep getting gassed out.

[@jtoms1859]

I am so glad I just found your channel. I just subscribed. Any chance to get the gold standard of the Dead Air Lineup, the Sandman S and maybe another new suppressor, the Liberty Precision Machine Torch?

[@pandagaminggaming1427]

The rc3 has trouble with different muzzle devices, so i recommend attaching a surefire warcomp flashhider and test it again which will make a big difference in muzzle flash.

[@RooftopDefense]

I intentionally tested all of them with 3-prong flash suppressors with that in mind, to show the best performance the RC3 has to offer.

[@pandagaminggaming1427]

@@RooftopDefense oh alr

[@Rdctd6969]

my favorite based korean man.

[@WearilyCorrect]

Any plans for the griffin flow through gate lock (M4SD L)?

[@RooftopDefense]

I'm not sure about that model just yet, but we do have the Griffin Dual Lok 5 and HRT-556 in the pipeline coming soon!

[@ivaniuk123]

What flash hider did you have on there?

[@Jon_Clutched]

SF3P-556-1/2-28

[@__K__B__]

These comparisons are great. It's a shame the RC3 shoot fireballs with closed-tine muzzle devices. A lot of people have to pin/weld brakes for stupid state laws.

[@mikelreyna878]

Free men dont ask permission. Ridiculous amount of ways to not have to pin and weld. However, this reduced blowback stuff is a joke. The only time gas is a potential problem is when you are static, especially in closed doors. This happens a lot when you are with an entire squad. Do you think you will be static when facing 20 adversaries? If so, you're wrong. Why would you even engage 20 adversaries solo? Without the prospect of a military backed resupply or reinforcement? All this military shit does not correlate with private citizens protecting themselves. RC2 & RC2 mini (556 dedicated) are pretty much the gold standard. KAC is legit. However, people with money buy them and hord them. Making the price just absolutely ridiculous. RC2 & RC2 mini are veted. Have been for a long time. No reason under the sun, suggests otherwise. My brother has the RC2 mini and I have the RC2. they both fuck. They will do what you need them to do. Flow through is gay. 🇺🇸

[@moss8702]

​@@mikelreyna878"Flow through is gay". Right. Because professional orgs and high-speed units adopting flow-through designs must mean "is gay" vs "Is actually better". Which it is. Anything that keeps your muzzle on target and parts less beat up is better

[@MrEpicAndroid]

​@moss8702 more noise, and the potential for lower lead levels for the aging out professionals. Rc3s and flow throughs are a tactical liability, rc2s are for peak performance. The market sales speak for themselves find an rc2 or mini 2 in stock, won't have a problem with an rc3...

[@moss8702]

@@MrEpicAndroid right. I'm talking about ALL flow-through designs since thats what was called gay lol. There's more than one company that makes a flow-through can. The RC3 is the underperforming can. Thats not a question. But there are several adopted and proven flow-through designs that arent the RC line

[@moss8702]

@@Randomdude556 if the weight of a WML/IR and suppressor inhibits your effectiveness. Thats a fitness and training issue

[@slidewayskenny6925]

Rc2 stands king. They should’ve waiting longer to release the rc3

[@jtoms1859]

LOL, RC2 & RC3 are still the gold standard, did you look at the NV footage? The Siera 5 has about 50% less flash than the RC2 & RC3.

[@slidewayskenny6925]

@@jtoms1859 I hope you’re joking. Deadair currently sucks right now. Horrible customer service and the Sierra 5 is known to turn into a salt shaker

[@expert244]

5:56min. Coincidence I'm sure 😁

[@s4iL_]

I'm torn between the RC3 and CRS-PRT 😩

[@s4iL_]

Disappointing, how it caught fire and glowed like that. I'm keeping the RC2, and my new setups will have KAC.

[@roberthutchinson2856]

Would love to hear subjective opinions on sound comparting cans to other cans

[@Merk21]

Pewscience

[@roberthutchinson2856]

@@Merk21 i see the word subjective is lost on you

[@twostangs81]

@@roberthutchinson2856 you didnt have to do him like that

[@Rdctd6969]

Bro... This guy behind a saw, looks like a STRAIGHT UP Rooftop Korean clone. lmfao.

[@Buschwick]

Wait. The saw isn't capable of going cyclic after the first trigger pull. This is a deepfake.

[@raifsevrence]

All I could think of when that thing lit off: kzbin.info/www/bejne/q5K0iXueeMieick

[@MichaelCalise]

Algorithm

[@JoshRaptor215]

Surprising, clearly not in a good way

[@xander2541]

How do you mean? 🤔