Supremely Outmatched | F-16C Viper Vs SU-30SM Flanker-H | Digital Combat Simulator | DCS |

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

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[@numberyellow]

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[@tonyennis1787]

So what are the AWACS planes to do? Hypersonic missiles from long range seem unstoppable.

[@numberyellow]

@@tonyennis1787 That's kinda the point.... there's nothing they can do.

[@tonyennis1787]

@@numberyellow I rather expect the USAF to have a plan.

[@tmytyson]

Give the people what they want: Battle of the Canards. A dogfight free-for-all featuring (at a minimum) the SU30SM Flanker-H, Eurofighter Typhoon, JAS39 Gripen, and Dassault Rafale. May the best 'nard win.

[@iamweejonny]

This guy could take down an F22 whilst flying a kite - always like these David vs Goliath match ups.......great piloting

[@kuhnville3145]

absolutely; "It's not the plane, it's the pilot" has a lot of truth to it (in most circumstances)

[@onesixtyfourlife]

Soooo true lol

[@generalputin3314]

@@pyronuke4768 true, but knowing when, how, and understanding what exactly you’re aiming to do all takes a lot of either brain power or experience

[@neilaslayer]

I was trying to think of the appropriate "fair fight" for GS and you nailed it!

[@kristoffereberius2476]

A kite is somewhat more manoeuvrable than a balloon

[@robbielex]

When you crested that hill and saw his crash site my balls came back down from inside my stomach.

[@EvoraGT430]

Great move; missiles will pull loads of lead into the ground if you overbank like that.

[@mgmchenry]

Same. I was calmstressed nonstop for the last 10 minutes of this fight. well played

[@RA-tg1dp]

Likewise

[@riphopfer5816]

Same. This was a proper nail biter.

[@roostersideburns3440]

mine didnt come back down yet

[@FlintIronstag23]

Besides outranging the F-16, the Su-30 was also carrying twice as many missiles. I counted 12 of various kinds.

[@greybuckleton]

Yeah, but the pilot didn't make use of that. The plane can only do so much of the work for you!

[@panan7777]

WITHOUT ANY effect on flying characteristics ??? Sure.

[@tabernaclejones6115]

The su33 is a lethal plane in dcs. Not sure about the su30 though. Can hold 12 air to air missles

[@Вольфрамище]

@@panan7777 nobody said anything about characteristics. no need to caps-scream here, geez

[@ShadeAKAhayate]

@@panan7777 That depends on how quickly you are disposing of that extra weight.

[@johanvanschalkwyk4237]

This is the definition of "It's not the plane. It's the pilot." XD

[@RazorsharpLT]

This also assumes that Russian tech works as advertised. As we've seen from the ATACM's wiping out an S-400 battery site (2-3 launchers and a radar) - that's not really the case.

[@MrMantis1990]

Don't think-just do

[@husk6667]

yeah but that almost always goes for BVR unles you have 5th gen in dogfighting alot depends on what jet is better

[@long-d4k]

​@@RazorsharpLTNo air defence currently has 100% success rate. Their Iskander missile also destroyed multiple Patriot systems. I'm not defending Russia but just pointing out a fact that you seem to not know.

[@Tarasco-77]

​@panzerkampfwagen161 it destroyed all of the patriots

[@IronMan-xm3lg]

Sorry GS, it's not that I doubted on you but any time that guy shot at you I was getting ready for that explosion 💥 and the white letters you always use "Killed in Action" I was so excited when you won that I frightened my son that was playing Beside me. 😂

[@maxlin3442]

He didn't say he's fine, he's not gonna die

[@djordje198462]

you are mrn.

[@PhillipChalabi]

This turned into quite the chess match. Awesome work staying alive.

[@Hyposonic]

Mission: Failed. Staying alive at the expense of an AWACS is a loss.

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

This is actually a valid point.

[@ianvanharper]

That the AWACS was ever in range was the failure.

[@stevenichols2938]

@@GrowlingSidewinder Except there was nothing that could be done to save the AWACS. Enemy fired at the AWACS at the very start of the engagement, and the F16 had no range or speed to intervene.

[@idioluh5838]

That's the planning failure, not pilot's failure. You shouldn't put your AWACS in range of sam or aam. It's not like this su-30 was stealth or something.

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

@@idioluh5838 lol ya it was over 200km away, its the extreme range of the missile that got the awacs, it was no where near the AO (obvs) - This is also the reason why it took the missile so long to get there and hit it. Also note that the farther away you put the awacs the less coverage he can provide, especially if the bandit starts reducing altitude.

[@GlennRobert71]

Being outmatched on paper like that sharpens you. Also wielding the superior weapon could make the pilot underestimate potential threats. The double fox in the end at that close range gives defender limited options for sure. Also snugging terrain like a true viper, is a super valuable skill. Your ability to adapt to situation is what won it for you. Impressive. Well done!

[@miletello1]

That was a nail biter. The speed and logic at which you made your decisions was quite impressive. Deciding to recommit because either the missile lost track or you’re dead was a boss move.

[@Lee-sti8wrx]

The look of the SU-30SM is such a beautiful aircraft. They look amazing.

[@T0ghar]

Destroyed, it looks even better.

[@shu.c]

​@@T0gharyeah but not as much as destroyed F 16

[@sirex9244]

​@@T0gharso much yapping

[@magigooter2096]

​@@T0ghar🥱

[@MqncoMarepoto]

@@T0ghar the rise of the sigma RAAAAAAAA🐺🗣🗣‼‼

[@Frost_x_NB]

That camo looks very reminiscent of the F22. Very nice.

[@Jemsy_]

The suspense was killing me the whole time, I can't imagine the pucker factor that a pilot would have in a real scenario like this! Great video, awesome flying!

[@SMathai]

Imagining a real pilot seeing the streak of the missile above, and recommitting for a possible mutual kill... nope, I can't imagine it. I'd probably eject? But that's one of many reasons I'm not in the military.

[@KristianBennett]

The head turn at 0:13 😆

[@BilobateDrip]

Hah!!😂

[@Penasco]

He was locking in

[@jaymac7203]

Lol

[@TimbavatiLion]

saw that too and first thought he spawned into the cockpit, had to look twice 😂

[@fredrikrenstroem1661]

Intro lasts until 17s in, what you on about??

[@j4yp3r]

Tactics! Knowing the terrain, knowing your capabilities, and knowing your enemy's capabilities! Great show.

[@NighthawkSquadron]

Day f-111 Aardvark of asking for kf21 vs f22 dogfight

[@Bigcat726]

Cheeky for for 111 day of asking

[@lewiemotorsports3616]

Lmfao my boy using the vark as a unit of measurement 😂

[@Geno-The-Butcher17]

Keep dreaming,I've been asking for an f8 crusader for a year

[@lewiemotorsports3616]

@@Geno-The-Butcher17 the last gunfighter

[@_vortech_]

​@Geno-The-Butcher17 wait, the F-8 is available????

[@Ifoughtpiranhas]

Sometimes a little luck is more useful than skill, but if you can have both, you can usually get desirable results. This is one of those cases.

[@jbc242424]

That recommit when you saw the hyper in the cons got my blood going. Super intense victory, man. WTG.

[@heatblast876]

No, it's not a victory. It's still a loss because the pilot didn't protect the AWACS, which doesn't mean it's a super intense victory.

[@jbc242424]

@@heatblast876 oh, okay.

[@mgmchenry]

@@heatblast876 It was a super intense strategic loss that dramatically removed one flanker from inventory. RIP AWACS. There was nothing the F-16 could do to save the AWACS at that distance with that loadout. It's fate was sealed from the moment the video started

[@davidwilliams9302]

Just as I was typing "I'd go for the AWACS," the Su-35 takes out your AWACS

[@FryskeSergeant]

your videos always remind me to clean my screen

[@jimmcintosh3718]

Amen. But we’ll never see what GS does. Different resolutions.

[@rnash999]

Nice win. AWACS definitely need some laser defense or anti-missile missiles.

[@sogerc1]

Or a towed decoy.

[@yuanfurbax]

Lasers don''t work against ARH missiles

[@beverlychmelik5504]

I don't believe the ECM suite is modeled in DCS.

[@terryritter7065]

@@beverlychmelik5504 it's not. There's no way an asset like that, with tons of internal room, would not have a broad array of counter measures.

[@Seanweekhaizhen]

​@@terryritter7065How would they work exactly?

[@cloczy111]

Not long now and you'll have reached 600,000 subscribers, I love the content! ❤

[@catsfive]

Haven't seen your channel for ages because I moved from Canada to Malta. THIS one had it all! Went to the next video and came back to thumbs up it. You followed the missiles and told the story so well. MORE, wonderful job

[@worldbreaker1023]

Nailbiter! I thought you were done for sure. Started bracing for the cockpit to explode several times. Lol. Well done mate

[@70HeavyChevy]

Lobbing missiles with your eyes closed for a half court shot, and swish!!!

[@CharlieThunder24]

This video plays out like the Air Force version of an old school country song "Well I tangled with a sukoi And woo doggies, woo boy, My viper couldn't bite em Or even keep him frightened, He took out my awacs And my luck dropped Like a busted haystack. But then he got closer, And his smile soured 2 amraams and 7 miles Kept me from my final hour

[@viktorbihar5384]

This is pretty good😂

[@BladeKi11a]

Still waiting for GS to drop the BF3 F-18 mission “Going Hunting”

[@HornetVF103]

I am not sure if DCS has a good representation of the F-15EX, but I would like to see this scenario with F-15EX.

[@hanschristianben505]

the EX is not yet modeled in DCS if I’m not mistaken (the new cockpit systems may be still classified)

[@meltdown78]

Teaching so many things about modern air combat in this short video is quite an impressive feat. And great flying too :)

[@zdarky_6623]

When playing the F16, if you struggle to get a lock perhaps you should try switching to "VSR" mode in radar, you can get lock a fighter up to like 70/80miles

[@lantinian]

I didn’t understood the value of the pilot still in a fighter engagement until I started to watch your videos. Then I realized that it can make all the difference.

[@flashrufa6306]

That was awesome flying, control, knowledge and precision. One of your best yet👍

[@DonHuff]

Nail biting! Would love to see the TacView on this engagement. Multiple very close calls!

[@erikcourtney1834]

Let’s freakin go!!! That’s pilot skills at its finest.

[@stripedcollar335]

I have watched DCS from a distance but haven't played it. I will now thanks to this. Very well done, sir.

[@wash_out]

Thankfully the ramjet K-77ME was more of a research project and never got produced. So you made it super hard for yourself . 🎉

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

I’d like to mention here that we don’t know what the Russians have produced and what they have ordered. They don’t exactly come and tell the world how many of what military equipment they have ordered or are working on. Same with any respectable military in the world.

[@nickt2822]

@@GrowlingSidewinder that also goes for the specs of their planes and missiles. so, portraying them in an accurate way is practically impossible.

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

@@nickt2822 correct, thats why we say mods are and aircraft are based on publicly available information. The F-22 is a good example of this.

[@Nimmermaer]

@@GrowlingSidewinder Well, we have a pretty good idea of how many planes they have produced and can produce and also of their regular loadouts. Things are harder to hide in the modern World.

[@spinningsquare1325]

​@@GrowlingSidewinderi think a good underdog scenario could be a thing without missiles that literally never existed. The r-37m exists and its enough by far

[@Gsfkdhkjhgfs]

Thank for this. Was hoping too see those animated debriefs so we could see the missiles trajectory and discover if that hill really saved you…

[@nico_]

I love coming home from work, grab a cold one and enjoy another aviation thriller. So here's to you! 🍻

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

Thank you very much very generous, much love.

[@szarmywarmy]

That “We’ll figure it out.” Followed by the cool flyby footage was just peak. 🎉 Love this channel

[@jimmcintosh3718]

A great combination of agression and prudence. With serious situational awareness.

[@darkphoenix2]

The tension in these videos is different, the F-16 is constantly dancing on the edge of a knife just to survive. I was debating if I should just spoil the end instead of waiting for him to explode, but I had hope in those final moments when he decided to fire the last two AMRAAMs. Good stuff.

[@Zilla0961]

Love the videos man, you are the reason I got into dcs, keep up the amazing work

[@mirrorslash028]

The amount of time between his missile launch and the AWACS being hit is crazy

[@SgtKanyo]

The anxiety levels were strong with this one

[@humansvd3269]

I used to be in AWACS. Not taking and threat mitigation is an absolute failure on the AWACS, no the fighter. Whenever we were in an air space where the potential to be intercepted could occur, we would get a threat briefing and then it would be on the Air Battle Weapons Crew to keep track of those potential threats. This would be an absolute catastrophe and it would forever be used as a case study on what "not to do." The AWACS basically was a deer in the headlights thought that's on the computer.

[@BenParkes-wz5bd]

Video idea: I-16 vs Su-57 Felon

[@firebald2915]

Yeah, we got short changed in that I-16 v Flanker, merge and dead video. More I-16... except, NO Flankers ! hahaha

[@BenParkes-wz5bd]

@@firebald2915 Yeah, I was so excited...Then horrified...Then disappointed.

[@BenParkes-wz5bd]

@@mikes989 Ooh. Thats pretty nice. There was a Spitfire model flying around Brisbane a few months ago. Dunno where he is now.

[@lamarkingram5320]

You just gained a new subscriber with that top-tier piloting right there! Awesome video.

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

Thank you, and welcome to the channel.

[@LordHolley]

Man, that was a nail-biter. Great work!

[@spartan9458]

Never underestimate a Viper with a good pilot. Great Flying and great video!

[@p-47thunderbolt57]

What an amazing fight. Best I've seen in a while.

[@kelvaris1]

Dude love watching you fly low and fast. So gratifying.

[@connorwyman55]

I hunger for this f-16 livery. I gotta know which one it is, looks amazing.

[@Kyleplier]

I’ve always said that it’s as much the skill of the pilot as it is the aircraft. And luck is very much part of that skill.

[@nielsnijmegen2917]

Could you show the path of the missiles being fired? For example, the first one aimed at you? It would be great to see how it manoeuvres!

[@yacobz]

Show us the Tacview GS! He used to show it more often lot back in the days :(

[@noneOfYourBusinessDotCom]

Pucker factor went up when the data link went down. That was definitely one for the clench book.

[@RogueBeatsARG]

Bout to offend some USAF fanatics probably, but... You dont wanna mess with a well equiped and briefed SU-30 Flight, that thing will mess you up

[@itsdokko2990]

totally agree. that bird is hella scary

[@dblankenship88]

Not a fanatic but a USAF veteran here and you are correct. It’s a nasty airframe that can be trouble.

[@EthanJaye]

But of course, against something like an F-22 or F-35 it's not lasting long.

[@RogueBeatsARG]

@@EthanJaye nah, they have IRST but I think you need a Radar lock to shoot fox 3 missiles

[@EthanJaye]

@@RogueBeatsARG They both have IR stealth, and the F-22 and especially the F-35 have no problems locking on to an SU-30 while the latter struggles to even get them on radar. Really it isn't a fair comparison pitting up against 4/4.5 gen against 5th gen.

[@The_Original_Truebrit]

Amazing vid mate. My tactic for A-A in DCS is see the guy on radar, lose the guy on radar, explode. I like your tactics better.

[@RoyMaffezzoli]

Amazing work man! 👏

[@nymalous3428]

I was tilting my head as you made your turns... and I think I was holding my breath too.

[@steveschwalje6409]

“I would not call her old. She’s in her prime.”

[@michaelthacker6121]

That alone just shows how well a good pilot thats well trained and experienced can survive being outclassed and outgunned!

[@NewSoloPilot]

Another great video, keep it up! ❤

[@kxcp3r_.378]

bruh he uploaded 2 mins ago u didnt even watch it 💀💀

[@RosalindMullins-i7l]

Exactly keep it up!

[@E-Lighterswon]

Awesome. David still has a chance against Goliath in this day and age. Wow.

[@PvtPartzz]

What a fight, nice flying man.

[@paulbeckett7517]

Well done bro. That was even hard to watch. Real pucker stuff there.

[@Beau-wp9yi]

My dad was a fighter pilot. Flew the F16 He’d tell me after a flight he’d be absolutely exhausted and drenched in sweat. Also told me of one story where he fought some iraqi or Kuwait fighters, can’t remember. He and his wingman pulled some kind of pincer move and the enemy bugged out immediately. He never told me if he had shot anyone though or had been shot. Only that he had been in combat. I never asked either

[@greatBLT]

The Kuwaitis were never our enemy, so he wouldn't have fought against their fighters.

[@Beau-wp9yi]

@@greatBLT okay. Just telling it as best as I remember Would have been the Iraqis then.

[@Agnus78]

Good job, pilot! Looks like that F-16 is still dangerous bird. In good hands.

[@nickthompson2023]

It’s not the plane Mav, it’s the pilot

[@treyhelms5282]

Against 5th generation fighters?

[@Justin-ec4vo]

This has to be one of the sickest videos you have ever put out. Awesome flying.

[@OddBall1958]

Seems to me the F-16 bis still a great fighter. I'm glad I was involved with the production of this bird back in the day.

[@Rizzbulla]

Awesome man.

[@maryginger4877]

So is a Spitfire... but wouldn't want to face the Russians in one !!!

[@slickfast]

Haha I like how you said in the beginning you were going to ignore the hills but after the first missile forgot all about it! I would have done the same thing but it was just funny. Nice kill

[@claytonthecountryboy3272]

Hey so I’m new to the channel and DCS as a whole. Is the Su-30 controlled by computer or another player? And how do you get the other air shots. I love fighter planes but don’t know a whole lot about them and it’s been fun watching. Thanks!

[@JuanGarcia-ig4zl]

Great place to learn here. 👍

[@brylinx1451]

That one is controlled by a player I believe

[@AlenB29]

Controlled by the worst player on DCS by far

[@historysciencebooks]

@@AlenB29 what was the mistake? Getting too close? The SU was missing all the time, how was it supposed to win?

[@AlenB29]

@@historysciencebooks his mistake was first of all not staying outside of F-16s range and then once he did come close instead of firing an R-77 to hit him he fired the giant supersonic missile which is too big to hit a fighter at that distance

[@WeirdTippy]

Dude was completely outclassed and still managed to get the W. Edge of my seat the whole way through this one. What a great bvr fight. o7

[@resurgam_b7]

You know you're in trouble when he's shooting at your AWACS, which is presumably some distance behind you, before he starts shooting at you 😆 I would have loved to see the Tac View of this battle. It would have been great to know how many times those missiles he sent at you came up for a handshake and were just barely left hanging. Especially for that last R-77-M that he fired. I wonder how many inches higher you could have been before it had enough loft to make contact 😂

[@muranziel]

These are so much more stressful to watch than dog fight videos 😄 Great flying GS!

[@gackerman99]

sorry just confused by early comment around 3:50 - does track while scan not trigger a locking RWR alert? so you're locked without being "locked"?

[@DonHuff]

TWS locks do not give an RWR warning. RWR will warn when the AMRAAM’s radar takes over (aka “pitbull”) for final guidance.

[@gackerman99]

@@DonHuff got it thanks. TWS seems like a bit magic then, is there any tradeoff to using it as opposed to a traditional lock? doesn't the radar need to do predictive scanning?

[@Vipbossguy]

@@gackerman99not that it matters much but you can’t guide a SARH missile with a TWS lock

[@corvanphoenix]

​@gackerman99 AFAIK, TWS means the radar isn't putting any more radiation on target than necessary to gain a targeting solution. To get a high enough quality return for a missile shot, traditionally radars would need to put more energy on the target. So the targeted aircraft has a chance to detect the increase in energy & know they could be shot at from then. With less energy comes a higher chance of losing too much information to maintain track. If the radar is big & powerful enough, like an F-15C, it might be happy in TWS nearly all the time. If you're in a smaller radar F-18 or -16, you might lose your track in TWS. Losing lock heavily reduces the weapon's kill percentage the further it is from the target.

[@thepatriotsrage661]

A classic case of skill outwits superior technology. Very well played, really enjoyed this one!

[@Tj_1988]

"Its not the plane, its the pilot...."

[@RodrigoLobosChile]

Such an amazing dogfight!. Your strategy to confront him was simple and straight forward. "Who Dares Wins" (SAS-UK)

[@rowdyace5719]

day 92 of asking for Christen Eagle 2 vs F-22 raptor

[@skyhawk8739]

Glad to see a BVR video after none for a while

[@subatomicparticle6535]

Break break Ukrainian F16 crashes going up against no adversary.

[@MainFrameGamerz]

Sorry for being late for the party, that was as always, impressive 😉

[@waseemkhan-bz5kk]

who else had a smirk at 16:01

[@yotatrd5.758]

The definition of it’s the pilot not the plane

[@pennypacker2000]

You just cannot ignore the bite of the Viper! .. Nicely done ;-)

[@SupermanBlack1987]

Habitual line Crosser says that missile is not hypersonic.

[@FuelAirSparkTime]

He says a lot of things

[@lonniehartke8823]

I was waiting for another kill for the highlight real but you did it. Great job Growing

[@2020Max1]

You won the fight but strategically that was a loss...

[@machinegunjackmcgurn804]

I didn't think he would let you get that close. Great job.

[@vaderlatino9924]

The Russian armament is completely overblown, their hypersonic have still yet to be proven to hit a maneuvering target and the patriots continue to shoot them down easily according to HLC. The Su-30 is a superior platform to the F-16, but also 2x the cost (depending on the F-16). A closer match would be the F-15 or F-15ex

[@idioluh5838]

Well, they shouldn't prove they can hit a maneuvering target - they aren't meant to. And what's so superior in su-30 vs viper? It's just an old viper, block 70 will be more than comparable.

[@Tunez1976]

Ну точные характеристики неизвестны , но из других источников известно , что комплекс патриот был уничтожен ракетой кинжал. Патриот выпустил 32 ракеты и ни одна не попала. Не знаю на сколько правда. Сейчас никому верить нельзя. У вас одно говорят по новостям , у нас другое. Правда где то посередине как всегда) Мира всем.

[@idioluh5838]

@@Tunez1976 единственный подтвержденный килл пэтриота - искандером. При этом он не был развернут, подловили на марше. Все остальное, включая эту твою офигительную историю - ватные сказки.

[@wbiro]

@@Tunez1976 The truth is far to the West, though they are not perfect due to error, not intent like Russia.

[@Tunez1976]

How do you know how in Russia? You don't live here. You make some conclusions. Intent, is that what you decided? As we consider necessary, so we do. Is it different in the West?

[@kellygibson4653]

Damn that SU-30 is frikken loaded with missiles! Wicked tactics and catching all the advantage points you could GS!

[@quistan2]

Your most important peice of equipment in this senario, is your onboard cassette deck, and Steve Winwood jaming out "Gimme some Lovin".

[@briantoplessbar4685]

2005 US vs 2024 Russian

[@dingmingzou9866]

It's not the plane, it's the pilot. This video says it all

[@matthewyuells7825]

Awesome job on that fight!

[@marktorch9079]

This was a KZbin suggestion, I'm a gamer but I don't own any Flight simulators. Anyway that was very entertaining to watch.

[@Native_love]

OMG!!! I was at the edge of my seat! Better than a movie! DUDE!!!

[@ru5h7]

Very Goood Job, best Proof that u never should give up and even if u Outmached hard u can Outsmart him;)

[@Rob-vv5yn]

Sometimes there isn’t a hill to hide behind and other times everyone has a hill to hide behind.

[@PhycoKrusk]

Gotta respect the reasoning: "I'm either so close that I'm dead no matter what I do, or it lost track and can't find me unless I fly in front of it, so why not take a chance?"