Supro Delta King 12 vs. Fender Blues Junior IV | Tube Amp Shootout!

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Jack Fossett

Jack Fossett

Күн бұрын

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@mkrj2576
@mkrj2576 Жыл бұрын
My short, but late, take. The BJr has its recognizable prominent upper-mid sound that lends itself to being heard with a band. The Supro sounds a bit more chimey and nice but likely would cut though less in a live setting. That high end chime doesn’t sound as good with more gain, sounds scratchy. The Fender has a nicer rumbling growl with more gain, less fizz. I like the Fender if I needed a live amp.
@JimWalkerMusic
@JimWalkerMusic 2 жыл бұрын
I just bought a Delta King 10. I am SUPRO impressed with it! 😉 I recently purchased a Gibson Les Paul Special to carry with me out on the road (truck driver) and needed a low watt combo amp that would store easily under the bunk. This Supro is just what the Doctor ordered!!
@Prossdog
@Prossdog 2 жыл бұрын
I love the demos I see of the Supro line. Question for ya: Does the 10 have enough volume to play a small solo gig in a bar/restaurant?
@simonjensen5480
@simonjensen5480 2 жыл бұрын
Man that’s rock n’ roll. Gibson Les Paul a supro and the open road.
@BkBk-gy6vr
@BkBk-gy6vr Жыл бұрын
Does the 10 sound as good as this 12?
@dabsafe
@dabsafe 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely the Supro is my fave. 😎🇨🇦🎸
@montyellingsworth4982
@montyellingsworth4982 Жыл бұрын
I was wondering which amp but this video reminded me that I should probably work on playing better. Very nice.. very very nice.
@graemero5532
@graemero5532 2 жыл бұрын
Great video Jack, and as always, some tasty playing. Wow. I was surprised how much better the Supro sounded compared to the Fender.
@dukeplow
@dukeplow Жыл бұрын
So glad I bought the Delta King 12. I always wondered how it stacked up to the Blues Jr. and now I know. And I’m stoked about it.
@deanlutgert8292
@deanlutgert8292 2 ай бұрын
I did the same thing
@DTension
@DTension 2 жыл бұрын
I just accidentally scored a FREE fender blues junior wine tolex. I was worried it was countrified. Good demo here. Can't wait to play it. Thanks!
@JackFossett
@JackFossett 2 жыл бұрын
A free Blues Jr is a good day!
@davidbeal8054
@davidbeal8054 2 жыл бұрын
The problem, Jack, is that you made both sound great.
@johnrhyne6015
@johnrhyne6015 Жыл бұрын
Jack can make anything sound good
@RC-so7rv
@RC-so7rv 10 ай бұрын
... that just means that you can't go wrong with either amp! Now it's down to which one looks prettier in your living room!
@69lespauls
@69lespauls 7 ай бұрын
they are both awesome and have different tones great to have them both and channel switch them 👍🏻👍🏻
@dlewtweentorla1210
@dlewtweentorla1210 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Jack, nice take on these two amps. Agree they certainly are different and both have their virtues. having both amps myself completely agree the Supro can be dialed in to those 60-70's tones we all know from great albums of the era. Overall I prefer the Supro, so much decided to sell the Blues Jr. Main reason for keeping both was still love the Fender reverb (is better than the Supro reverb IMO), however picked up a Fender TremVerb pedal and now using that with the Supro am more than satisfied (with more reverb options plus tremolo options). Supro went a different way with the tubes using a 6L6 for the power tube vs the Fenders EL84 combo which changes the entire characteristic of the amp. As far as price-point goes, once in a while can find the Supro on sale for a deal (right now believe Guitar Center has them for a bit over $500 new). Very well done video. Nice as well is the smaller two versions of the Supro, the DK8 (1W) & DK10(5W) options. For players who need something a bit smaller to play with at home etc. Also picked up the DK8 just after Christmas (Boxing week sale), figured it could be great for recording and practicing. Bonus..., turn the volume (pre-amp) up all the way and master down, use the line out going into a larger amp (even the DK12 works well, but if bigger use it) and you have a fantastic real Tube Distortion. Sounds fantastic going into a Marshal or Boogie, breaking them up very well without having your eardrums bleed. Should check one out sometime. Cheers! Keep up the good work!
@BkBk-gy6vr
@BkBk-gy6vr Жыл бұрын
How does it take heavier distortion pedals? How is the line out recording I heard it's just ok without extra software?
@daveshepard9154
@daveshepard9154 Жыл бұрын
I have the Supro Blues King 12 (predecessor) and love it - LOVE it. My main ride is a Blues Deluxe, which can be sorta loud. The Supro has character and tone for miles, and is a very handy pedal platform as well.
@donaldhammond5791
@donaldhammond5791 2 жыл бұрын
Really like the value and options with the Supro. As DLew said below, you can find great deals like 48-month interest free pricing at GC. But no deals for Fender right now, just cash on the barrel head. So, the classic Fender tone comes at a premium price which makes me a bigger Supro fan.
@creamroller
@creamroller 2 жыл бұрын
I got the Supro. Love it! Although I wouldve appreciate if they included the footswitch.
@BkBk-gy6vr
@BkBk-gy6vr Жыл бұрын
I wish it had a effects loop
@TommySG1
@TommySG1 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the breakdown Jack. I've been eyeing this Supro amp a little while now and I think I might just go ahead and order one soon.
@jdb2722
@jdb2722 2 жыл бұрын
Well said about the Supro sounding studio while the JR is more live in the room.
@joeldavis1040
@joeldavis1040 Жыл бұрын
I just bought a Delta King 12 and a black magick Supro, can't wait to explore the tones on both!!
@sneakerhead6184
@sneakerhead6184 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great review and the sweet playing! That Supro though 😮 I have to get one of those!! #gottabeatele
@ajlmirrormist
@ajlmirrormist 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent detailed comparison.... there was only one amp in it and that was the Delta King 12.
@jamesp7709
@jamesp7709 2 жыл бұрын
The Supro is a fantastic pedal platform. When I use it with an Xotic Soul Drive and the MXR 5150 overdrive I can dial in an early 80's Van Halen sound.
@patdalymusic
@patdalymusic Жыл бұрын
How is the bass on the Supro? Does it hold up with gain? Can it chug?
@mrbigg7255
@mrbigg7255 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve been on the fence with the Supro. I really like the use 6L6 tube. My main amp at church is the Hot Rod Deluxe. One of the power tubes crapped out this week. Now I have one tube that’s still good. I could use that tube in the Supro when needed. I always have a stash of 6l6’s so I wouldn’t have to stock up on another style of power tube.
@gbbruno596
@gbbruno596 2 жыл бұрын
I said it already in the past re the blues king: I think this line of Supro amps is the Blues Junior's killer. More versatile, overall sweeter and it breaks up in a classy Supro way...
@waitaminute7257
@waitaminute7257 Жыл бұрын
Supro clean sound starting at 9:17 sounded so much nicer to me with way more headroom than the Fender. Wow!
@georgecelestino
@georgecelestino Жыл бұрын
One thing I noticed is that the Supro seems to have more amp hum/buzz whereas the fender seems pretty quiet in comparison
@martinmcfly2770
@martinmcfly2770 2 жыл бұрын
Damn it Jack as if it wasn't enough that I was contemplating between the Marshall Origin and the Blues Jr. now I have to worry about the Supro Delta King as well. Jokes aside that was a great and really informative video, thank you! (As a side note I am aware that they are very different amps with different characteristics however they are all in a similar price point)
@deanmlshredder
@deanmlshredder 2 жыл бұрын
What did you end up with? Just curious.
@martinmcfly2770
@martinmcfly2770 2 жыл бұрын
@@deanmlshredder I havent bought anything still, its tough being a broke college student. Imma do it though and I will be sure to let you know. But I can tell you that I ditched the Delta and right now Im back at square one again as I’m contemplating between the Junior and the Origin. Im leaning more towards the Junior even though I think the Origin is the better buy.
@deanmlshredder
@deanmlshredder 2 жыл бұрын
@@martinmcfly2770 The origin is $100 cheaper and has an effects loop but I did feel like the Jr. took pedals better as long as you get most of your volume from the master and add preamp to taste. Too much pre gain and your delays and reverbs get a bit gnarly and you'll want a good low gain o.d. for your cleans or they'll be thin and spikey. The origin is $100 cheaper and has an effects loop but a 20w tube amp is a lot if you need to be quiet and the 5 watt version is HORRENDOUS. Put an effects loop in the Jr. and it's the cat's ass.
@martinmcfly2770
@martinmcfly2770 2 жыл бұрын
@@deanmlshredder well I think I like how the Jr. breaks up better. I hate using those words but it sounds “looser” while the Marshall sounds more compressed. To me the sound that the guitarist from Greta Van Fleet had on their last record is what I want, however he used Marshalls and something called Selmer. So I dont know if I would be able to get that sound with the jr.
@deanmlshredder
@deanmlshredder 2 жыл бұрын
@@martinmcfly2770 the "Marshall" in a box pedals out there are REALLY damn good. But the jr. On the edge of breakup is a great sound too. In my apartment I like the vol around 8 and the master around 2. Still pretty damn loud. Put an angry Charlie out front though with the amp set basically the other way around and set the pedal for "edge of breakup" and you'll have pretty much the sound you're after. The wampler plexi drive is another good one but has a lot of headroom and can get pretty loud before I get what I want out of it without it feeling compressed..
@GuitarsRgood7
@GuitarsRgood7 5 ай бұрын
Both sound amazing! I'll have to try out that Supro
@mattgilbert7347
@mattgilbert7347 2 жыл бұрын
A stock Blues Junior IV goes for around $990AUD here in Sydney. The Supro amps are quite expensive. I have seen the Delta King for anything between $1600AUD to $1800AUD. Do i think that the Supro sounded better overall? Yes, although with the Tree of Life in front, they both sounded pretty darn good - comparable in quality of tone if different in tone per se. Do i think that the Supro is worth it? Maybe. I am happy with the Tweed Junior iii with the Jensen speaker that I've been using on and off for 5 years. Great stuff, as always. Cheers Jack.
@SergeiVlassov
@SergeiVlassov 2 жыл бұрын
wow, in Europe Supro is the same price as BJ, around 600 eur
@JackFossett
@JackFossett 2 жыл бұрын
That’s interesting - I wonder why that is? Is there a black market for Supro amps or something? I tend to agree with you. When you set them cleaner and run them with pedals, they’re pretty interchangeable for as different as they are.
@mattgilbert7347
@mattgilbert7347 2 жыл бұрын
I just checked the price of a new Delta King at a big local music retailer - $1349AUD. The Junior IV can still be had for just under a grand, but that's the all-stock version.
@mattgilbert7347
@mattgilbert7347 2 жыл бұрын
@@JackFossett Yes, although it would be interesting to run through a few different Bjnrs with a lot of different drive/fuzz/muff etc pedals against the Supro.
@mattgilbert7347
@mattgilbert7347 2 жыл бұрын
@@JackFossett I found a Blues King 12 for $999AUD! That's decent. A year or so back Supro amps were really expensive here in Oz. Probably a tariff/sales tax/import duties (etc) issue
@tonya4157
@tonya4157 2 жыл бұрын
They both have their moments but there's something about that Supro that got my attention. I liked it a lot. To be completely honest, I didn't like the JR at all until right at the end. Until then, to me at least, it sounded muffled and the Supro smoked it.
@triumphil11
@triumphil11 2 жыл бұрын
I actually recently purchased the Delta king 12. And I couldn’t be happier! Like you mentioned it’s very good for dialing in a great tone! Great headroom for lower house volumes.
@AuntAlnico4
@AuntAlnico4 2 жыл бұрын
It's got that low volume flexible but have you heard how loud this amp gets !? I used the Supro BK12 to replace 2 50 watt Marshall half stacks one night at rehearsal and was blown away at how loud and articulate this amp is !
@mattgilbert7347
@mattgilbert7347 2 жыл бұрын
Enough headroom for pedals?
@triumphil11
@triumphil11 2 жыл бұрын
@@mattgilbert7347 for sure!
@BkBk-gy6vr
@BkBk-gy6vr Жыл бұрын
I dont know how this sounds good at low volume. I have a 5-watt tube amp that can go to 1 watt and I cant go above 3 on the volume or its too loud and the problem is at 3 or less its far from its amazing sound potential unless I get it up to 5 or more. So the Supro is 15 watt cant see that being quiet enough or sound good on volume 1 or 2.
@deanlutgert8292
@deanlutgert8292 2 ай бұрын
Just got a special edition supro delta king 12 for 499 at guitar center on sale i didn't know it could keep up with the fender which was really expensive I'm stoked great video you are a fabulous player
@telecasterbear
@telecasterbear Жыл бұрын
I had a handsome little tweed blues junior for a very short time. One of the knobs wasn't lined up with the numbers printed on the panel. I loosened up the set screw on the knob to line it up. When I removed the knob, I saw that the potentiometers don't have a washer and nut securing it to the panel. The pots are just soldered onto the PC board and just stick through the panel. I sold the amp soon after.
@calm2348
@calm2348 2 жыл бұрын
I think of it like this... We all know what it sounds like when you stand outside of a club and hear the guitar playing from beyond walls and doors. That's the fender blues Jr... THEN you walk into the club, you smell the musty air, the booze, a little reefer, your eyes adjust to the light of the stage and now you're in front of the amp, the way it was meant to be heard. THAT'S the Supro. The fender is hiding from you, from behind walls of muffling... and the doors are locked.
@gerryloughran1676
@gerryloughran1676 2 жыл бұрын
cool ...both great amps... Supro got the sweet sound ...but the Fender sounds like it needs a little more dialed in ( believe you need to spend 'a lot' of playing time with a valve amp to get to know it ) but its sure sounds its got a lot more head room, which in the long run would be the better buy
@JackFossett
@JackFossett 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed!
@chrish1695
@chrish1695 2 жыл бұрын
I agree. That jr is not dialed in. for clean tones the jr should smoke the other.
@ryangunwitch-black
@ryangunwitch-black 2 жыл бұрын
Well, that's the Leo Fender thing.... Clean head room and tons of it. That Blues Jr IV, when dialed in a bit, has such a gorgeous clean and a nasty-good crunchy break up. Sounds great with the mid and treble cranked and the bass around 3 or 4. The key to the crunch is that master volume.
@edwarddilegge4307
@edwarddilegge4307 Жыл бұрын
Damn again Jack you nailed it and again I must say what a great guitarist you are,,, Wow you can play amazingly Jack!!!
@timelwell7002
@timelwell7002 7 ай бұрын
For me, as a jazz player, it's clean tones all the way. And the Supro DK12 sounds a lot warmer and more rounded than the Fender to my ears. I'd go for the Supro every time.
@SergeiVlassov
@SergeiVlassov 2 жыл бұрын
Hard to see where Supro controls are set. Does it require a master volume to be cranked to sound good? P. S. Overall Supro seems to be more interesting and looks cooler, however it is almost too sharp with the drive. Interesting how close the tone can be dialed by tweaking.
@sjazzp
@sjazzp 2 жыл бұрын
Very good comparison, just the kind of video I was looking for. I found that the Supro sounded better especially in the clean tones that interest more to me. After so many years where the Blues Jr was the way to go, it seems there is a new king in town.The only thing is that your conclusion confused me a bit, but I reckon it won’t change my mind. On my way to a shop to try one on the flesh. Cheers!
@Twinhit
@Twinhit 14 күн бұрын
You never did come back to tell us what you thought of the DK.
@spider5001
@spider5001 2 жыл бұрын
I gotta say if I was blindfolded and I had to pick one it would have been the supro. How are you liking the new blues jr.? The clean tone on that Supro…. Man I want one now lol
@JackFossett
@JackFossett 2 жыл бұрын
The clean tone on the Supro is actually what sells me. It’s so pretty. I do love this Blues Jr, it’s definitely the best one I’ve had
@rickhill6277
@rickhill6277 2 жыл бұрын
Great Comparison Jack! The Supro sounded a little darker and muddy to me where the BJ cut through better and sounded like there was more TO GO with it. Please keep up the Good Work and Cheers from Salem, Ohio!
@beenderedonedat
@beenderedonedat 7 ай бұрын
Just bought the Supro, plus a Supro Black Magik stack. But the Blues Jr is a fantastic amp to be fair. I used it for decades. Once mine died after years of relentless work I opted for the Supro and it is great. The stack is a piece of furniture and highly instagramable haha, the Delta King the workhorse
@davidgunther1282
@davidgunther1282 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting this. I've been playing off and on for about 20 years now and although I bought a 1999 Fender American Standard Telecaster new in 99, I've never owned an amp. I've either just played it without, or,. more often than not, played the acoustic. With that being said, I'm turning 50 this year and my family wants to get me something "special," and I've decided on a tube amp so I can start playing the Fender more. I'm not a pro by any stretch of the imagination; I know a few cords and a few licks, that's about it. I've never been in a band, etc. I like blues and classic rock (60s and 70s) and would probably play more clean tones than overdriven tones. It seems like with these 2, it's a coin flip for me.
@rsaragosa
@rsaragosa 2 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed your video good work Jack. I am considering buying the Delta King to my ears these both sounded good in their own ways. The Fender has a boxiness sound to it that I am not sure I like. I like the overall options of the Supro. Thanks for your work on this. I have never really heard to many videos with amps with 6L6 tubes and I like the sound better that EL84 which I have never been a big fan of. Thanks Jack
@JackFossett
@JackFossett 2 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@donaldhammond5791
@donaldhammond5791 2 жыл бұрын
l like the Supro over the Blues Jr. Just more options in my opinion. I have the Blues King 12 and have enjoyed it a lot.
@chrisnadge7989
@chrisnadge7989 2 жыл бұрын
I've watched two Delta King vids that you've done. Thanks a bunch. My 1st Supro is the 15watt Saturn (LOVE IT!), then I got a Statesman combo (wow, incredibly huge 50watts, Comet & Thunderbolt preamp sections, or blend both). Wanted another due to positive experience with those. I'm expecting my Delta King 12 in a couple of days. You've confirmed I've made a sound choice. Thanks again😎
@JackFossett
@JackFossett 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you like them!
@Lean6
@Lean6 Жыл бұрын
Nice shootout. I would just say, pick the right tool for the job. I have a Blackstar HT-1R MKII 1-Watt 1x8, Supra Delta King 12, and a Fender Blues Deluxe. I've had Blues Juniors in the past, and may have one again. Both good amps. Nice to have options.
@douglascrawford4791
@douglascrawford4791 4 ай бұрын
I say, take a listen to the 5.Watt blackstar with the point five capability very solid amp
@markmcmyn8967
@markmcmyn8967 Жыл бұрын
I own a blues junior.I replaced the speaker with a cannabis rex. I find the juniors to be a very ice picky, trebly amp.The supro had a fuller more pleasing tone.A fender princeton with their fat beautiful tone over a blues junior all day.
@bravo4adventure988
@bravo4adventure988 5 ай бұрын
I already have the BJR 4 FSR that was featured here. Probably going to get the Supro as well for when my brother or son come over to jam. Seems like a nice bit of tonal variation to contrast with the fender
@RICO_SUAVE21
@RICO_SUAVE21 Жыл бұрын
Great video! I like the sound of the fender much better. Really sounds even better when you kicked in the overdrive, was a perfect match.
@rustysilver71
@rustysilver71 2 жыл бұрын
Two beautiful amps.
@KelsterVonShredster
@KelsterVonShredster Жыл бұрын
was that a d-armond or filter tron in the neck?
@cuinoz3569
@cuinoz3569 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for the presentation using the tele. I was interested in both amps however after hearing them I’ll move on to something else. The speaker in the junior sounds absolutely horrendous. I will check out some of your other videos.
@spookyroofus
@spookyroofus Жыл бұрын
Been frustrated for years by my inability to get any "sweetness" out of my Blues Jr. Feels like the Supro is a possible answer. The BJr just always seems muddy no matter what I do to it. Yep, it sounds big, but just not as "round" and "defined", in both the clean and gritty tones, as what I'm hearing from that Supro. In every comparison here, I liked the Supro much better. Thanks, Jack.
@BkBk-gy6vr
@BkBk-gy6vr Жыл бұрын
Yeah but this is a youtube vid so is this what the amp will sound like in the room. I've heard blues jr vids sound amazing then I bought one and it was like you said muddy I had to return it. Recording with mics or post production can make anything sound great. I'm to skeptical to make this purchase I would like to try one in a shop 1st.
@MaxRadin
@MaxRadin 2 жыл бұрын
Will the Supro keep up with a band? Thanks!
@Amish_Trivedi
@Amish_Trivedi 2 жыл бұрын
Somebody's been reading the comments :)
@robertkelly3357
@robertkelly3357 Жыл бұрын
dang it! i have to stay off YT. Now I need a Supro 12 Delta King.
@robertkelly3357
@robertkelly3357 Жыл бұрын
I have the blues jr. and i wont get rid of it, either.
@canadianblackmetal4534
@canadianblackmetal4534 3 ай бұрын
Iv been gigging a blues jr for over 1 year and have never turned the fat switch off. With that being said after 4-5 hrs of play I get alot more distorted tones than I would like. Not enough headroom in the JR either.
@JimmyKay1976
@JimmyKay1976 Жыл бұрын
Do all these types of amps have to mic-ed for home use? Or is it just for the video?
@jonnybeck6723
@jonnybeck6723 2 жыл бұрын
With single ended amps like the Supro, supposedly there are more 'harmonics' available 'cause a 2 tube output does some harmonic cancelling... Do you notice any of this phenomena ? Thanx & Cheerios
@rockandrollrabbit
@rockandrollrabbit 2 жыл бұрын
Where have you gotten this information? Any links you can share? Thanks very much.
@rustandtheband
@rustandtheband Жыл бұрын
i do have the delta king 12, super nice, but when i engage the drive it directly goes to full distortion, with no control to dial it down. so i hand made a separate passive volume input control to do so. is it a defect on my supro or all delta king 12 are like this??? (NOTE: i had 4 blues junior at different times, that i sold)
@tomolewine5743
@tomolewine5743 Жыл бұрын
Can you please tell me where you put that in the circuit?
@adamblake2466
@adamblake2466 11 ай бұрын
Supro just seems to have more grit. I love it.
@thebrysmith3
@thebrysmith3 2 жыл бұрын
The backward control panel on the Supro really annoys me. Other then that, I really like the tones you pull out of it, Jack.
@jdb2722
@jdb2722 2 жыл бұрын
That’s a good point. Funny thing is I didn’t notice it until I read your post.
@SergeiVlassov
@SergeiVlassov 2 жыл бұрын
I agree, it is so stupid, just to have more of the vintage look, but nobody really use amps like this (standing behind the amp), so it just makes it inconvenient and annoying.
@cbaten2
@cbaten2 Жыл бұрын
Agree. I would be very tempted to replace/ad an reversed plate.
@voodoodrive-in6417
@voodoodrive-in6417 2 жыл бұрын
The Supro 6L6 tube gives it a more authoritative and present tone. The Blues Jr is more mellow and not as articulate or present
@robraaiii
@robraaiii Жыл бұрын
Completely still on the fence. But after your wrap up about $50 cheaper, and more tones at lower volumes… I think I might be leaning Supro now. I think it looks better too. But a blues jr is known to last ages. Tough one. Great video tho! Gave me some good insight on both.
@andrewdenine1685
@andrewdenine1685 2 жыл бұрын
That supro hands down has better dynamics and tonal options. Sorry blues Jr.
@sugarmamaboy
@sugarmamaboy 5 ай бұрын
Hi.The thing is that that CR speaker is really something different, lots of people like it, I don't, but I think I really hear that CR . By the way, yes I have tried it in a blues junior. I know you mentioned that about speakers. I think that the blues junior 4 is the best version so far(and the pro junior 4 the worst).I still would pick the blues junior, I don't like amps with too many options lol
@daveguethlein1950
@daveguethlein1950 4 күн бұрын
Definitely the supro!
@1222chrism
@1222chrism Жыл бұрын
Would you say that the supro could be dialed for home use?
@Baci302
@Baci302 2 жыл бұрын
I liked the Supro over the Fender. The Supro had more presence about it. The Fender BJ IV felt like a turtle with its head tucked in its shell. Basically the opposite of the Supro.
@JackFossett
@JackFossett 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah the Supro is definitely much more present and clearer sounding in a lot of ways.
@acrowsnestview6621
@acrowsnestview6621 2 жыл бұрын
there's so much resonance with the BJ
@robertmoulton1647
@robertmoulton1647 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, Jack. I've pt layed the Blues Jr. and have been looking for a Delta King 12 to try out, but this gives me a good comparison for starters. Seems like the Supro sounds more 'alive' and the Fender seemed a bit restricted. It had the bass turned to 9 and the Supro still seemed to have a better, smooth low end. This was especially noticeable with the SG. Of course I'm listening on my laptop, but the DK seems to have won this shootout and has moved up to the pole position (talk about mixed metaphors). Thanks.
@mississippijohnfahey7175
@mississippijohnfahey7175 2 жыл бұрын
I was blown away today, when I played a Delta King today. I plugged into a Blues Jr and it was just muddy, boxy, and muffled by comparison. Alive is a good way to describe the Supro
@michaelogden5093
@michaelogden5093 2 жыл бұрын
Jack, what's your favorite Blues Jr. speaker?
@JackFossett
@JackFossett 2 жыл бұрын
I actually am not sure I have a great answer here as most of the different speakers I’ve tried have been in different models. I do love the Tone Speak Austin. Eminence is a solid choice but I think you can find better. I want to try a Weber, that’s next on my list.
@jmledesma88
@jmledesma88 2 жыл бұрын
hey! on a different topic, do you plan on getting a US made Casino?
@JackFossett
@JackFossett 2 жыл бұрын
Not currently to be honest. Having an Elitist I don't really have need for one, although I'd like to at least try one out and see how they are. They are definitely not cheap though.
@lastofthe4horsemen279
@lastofthe4horsemen279 Жыл бұрын
The supro is a badass amp..The blues jr is too.
@reggiearpen6562
@reggiearpen6562 2 жыл бұрын
I have mk.111 b jr. with Jensen spkr. tweed lmtd. and love it. Fat switch sounds better when stacked with nobels odr-1 od pedal. I must admit supro has it's charms
@mattgilbert7347
@mattgilbert7347 2 жыл бұрын
Same. Bjr Tweed iii with the Jensen It likes most all drive pedals and fuzz. Supro amps are almost double the price of the Bjr IV where i live.
@francoreia8147
@francoreia8147 Жыл бұрын
Nice amps like em both. Would like to hear fender playing rythem and Supro playing lead. Fender sounds great the Supro sounds like it would kinda match but exceed as lead. Love em both but for now I'll be sticking with my stage right 15 watt good price works good and has an effectts loop all for under 300 dollars. Course I had to try different speakers
@PeterDad60
@PeterDad60 2 жыл бұрын
Does anyone know if I can run a JJ 6V6 in the 6L6 Octal socket? Supposedly the JJ 6V6 can handle higher voltages than other 6V6's and just might survive in a Supro 1822 Delta King 12. I know I can run 5881 which is said to have a sweeter mid than 6L6, so I'll try that as well.
@PeedyJ
@PeedyJ 2 жыл бұрын
To my ears, Supro all day long.
@sonnygutierrez3979
@sonnygutierrez3979 2 жыл бұрын
I own the Supro Blues King 8 that I’ve modded a little and I absolutely love it for home practice, does everything from 50’s to 80’s hard rock. Surprisingly though, in this comparison I found myself liking the Blues Jr. for both clean and dirty. Didn’t expect that… thanks for the video.
@G1951-w1y
@G1951-w1y 7 ай бұрын
Someone!!! Please do a Supro Delta King 12 vs a Fender Super Champ X2 comparison. I have both, the Super Champ with the Ragin Cajun speaker and it literally blows away the Supro 12.
@jhue73
@jhue73 2 ай бұрын
you have to turn the master up on the blues jr. if you turn the master all the way up and then use the volume control for volume/gain it sounds way better this way.
@JackFossett
@JackFossett 2 ай бұрын
Im actually not a fan of that method - I find it makes the notes overly brash and edgy, and very noisy.
@jhue73
@jhue73 2 ай бұрын
@@JackFossett im not a fan of the blues jr because of those things you said. its just not a great amp. but with the master down like that it is not much power and the overdrive sounds terrible with the master down. im more of a princeton, deluxe, super, twin reverb kind of a person. they are much cleaner, less harsh sounding amps.
@mikeme4456
@mikeme4456 11 күн бұрын
BJ sounds impersonal to me. Supro DK has a lot of character! I’d love to get one, but I already have the Pro Jr that sounds a lot like supro. Next to my Marshall Studio 15 and F Super Champ X2. Too many amps…
@kdakan
@kdakan 3 ай бұрын
I prefer Fender Bassbreaker 15, I think it can do what these two amps can do and more in a more pleasing way and at lower volume levels.
@jt3483
@jt3483 2 жыл бұрын
That was interesting. I liked both clean and both with a little more grit. When the Vick was kicked in though, I felt that the Supro got really really flat sounding. The BJR sounded great with the Vick though. I did like the Supro with the boost in
@JackFossett
@JackFossett 2 жыл бұрын
There are definitely times when the Blues Junior sounds richer and "creamier" I want to say. Each seem to shine in different ways. Surprising how pretty the clean tone on the Supro is.
@coreygraves8531
@coreygraves8531 2 жыл бұрын
I like the supro. But you can't go bad with either one.
@chrismaines1285
@chrismaines1285 9 ай бұрын
Just my opinion, but I thought the Fender had less punch but also way less inherent distortion of volumes where the same all around. I can plug in distortion but that Fender sounded so very clean though less loud. The Fender cabinet is absolutely beautiful to look at. Both very nice but for my money it’s the Fender.
@IggyBing
@IggyBing Жыл бұрын
I thought the glassy clean of the Supro in the beginning, but when you went gritty, I vastly preferred the Fender... and I mean not even close: the Fender was meatier, fatter, girthier, however you want to put it. I'll buck the trend here and say, based solely on these samples, I'd grab the Fender.
@tm1180
@tm1180 9 ай бұрын
Budget? $799 for the Fender 15w 1x12
@JBM_71
@JBM_71 2 жыл бұрын
The Fender, my definite preference by far! 🙂
@75Pollux
@75Pollux 2 жыл бұрын
you need both ! BJ for the clean, Supro for the drive. The BJ has way more headroom, delta king is more in the 10 w range.
@JackFossett
@JackFossett 2 жыл бұрын
Need both is wisdom 🍻 - they’d sound great in stereo too
@tomolewine5743
@tomolewine5743 Жыл бұрын
I did the calculations on my DK, it came in at 14.8 watts.
@chrisnedbalek2866
@chrisnedbalek2866 8 ай бұрын
I've heard that Fender will cut corners on their amps because they know people will buy the amps no matter what because they say fender on them. So people say that they'll buy a Fender amp understanding that they're going to have to swap out certain resistors and things just because Fender puts a lot of near junk in their stuff. I'm guessing that supro doesn't do that? So that might be another advantage to supro. I just thought the supro sounded better.
@JackFossett
@JackFossett 8 ай бұрын
I’ve said that before almost verbatim 😂
@TyNathan-pi7fm
@TyNathan-pi7fm 4 ай бұрын
I think the Fender sound much better in this particular demo
@AlexEsplin
@AlexEsplin Жыл бұрын
I think the Supro sounds pretty good, and if budget was your primary concern, it would probably win out. To my ear the Blues Junior sounds a bit more "musical", especially in the clean and slightly gritty range.
@kevinanderson4044
@kevinanderson4044 Жыл бұрын
Those are really two different sounds. Since I have the BJ, I prefer the Supro clean tone.
@TheStrat1957
@TheStrat1957 2 жыл бұрын
I have a BJ 1. It is the worst tube amp I have ever had. Took it to a basement jam. With the master at 9 and volume at 3:; roasted a resistor on the board. Plus it just did not sound that good. This was with a Jensen C12N speaker. I used the carcass for a 5E3 build that is incredible. I have heard the later ones are better but I will never touch one again. That aside, my Dr Z Maz 18 is now my go-to amp.
@ctcards2636
@ctcards2636 2 жыл бұрын
Ive really wanted to try out the Supro, I own a heavily modded Blues Jr and I wouldnt get rid of it. But id love to find another amp in this size range. I dont know why i thought the reverb in the Supro was digital, maybe it was on the BluesKing ? But knowing that it has spring reverb makes me even more interested in the Supro. Theres not much to these amps inside, I watched a video of someone repairing one of these. These also come in 3 different models. 8in, 10in and 12in speakers. Im waiting for videos of people trying different speakers in the Supro, the Blues Jr benefited from a different speaker. I know mine did, because the stock speaker (Yes i had what you called the "rare stock" blues Jr haha) was NOT a very good speaker. I do like that the Supro is a 6V6 as well, thats where your hearing the Supro sound like a lot of 60s n 70s recordings. Ive gotta get out and try one of these out :-) Thanks for the video
@j.jester7821
@j.jester7821 2 жыл бұрын
the fender is a straight up tube preamp. the supro has fet boost built in, so the straight up comparison is a bit lacking. The fender sounds better to me with a stomp box. the supro circuitry is quite different from the Fender, so are the speakers.
@michaelogden5093
@michaelogden5093 2 жыл бұрын
By comparison, the Fender sounds like doo doo.
@skypekai
@skypekai 2 жыл бұрын
I liked both
@gr637
@gr637 2 жыл бұрын
According to my research and liking, the Supro is and sounds better. Tomorrow it will reach my beginner and very eager 11 yer old son.
@jasondorsey7110
@jasondorsey7110 2 жыл бұрын
@@gr637 the Cannabis Rex is crap, the Eminence Red White and Blues or the jensen c12 would both be better but for different applications
@caiusmadison2996
@caiusmadison2996 2 жыл бұрын
Nah, that's definitely some bias. One of the best tones in the biz, a Jensen in a Fender. Now if it's a Cannibus Rex by Emminence, yeah those suck. Pretty much all emmince do to me. Celestion or Jensen, for best truer tones.
@caiusmadison2996
@caiusmadison2996 2 жыл бұрын
@@jasondorsey7110 the Jensen would stack fine against this Supro.
@steveeckert8396
@steveeckert8396 2 жыл бұрын
Check out the Carvin Nomad. It's got the Fender Tweed vibe. I heard on at GC. Wow did it have tone.
@JackFossett
@JackFossett 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve seen them but never tried one - I wonder if Kiessel makes them now?
@steveeckert8396
@steveeckert8396 2 жыл бұрын
@@JackFossett No idea. It's got some serious tone in it. I'm not a Fender expert but the look and the sound got me rubber necking to see if it was a Tweed. It's the first time I've ever heard a Carvin without a tone of distortion. They'd probably still be around if they weren't totally mail order
@joerychlik2052
@joerychlik2052 2 жыл бұрын
I agree Steve. I just found a Carvin Nomad about 6 months ago and scooped it up. I’ve always had a thing for that Carvin tone. I absolutely love the tone on the clean channel. I don’t know what speaker originally came in these but the previous owner put a Patriot Celestion Commonwealth speaker in it and it sounds amazing. The drive channel on the other hand seems just fair to mediocre. I’m using a strat through it so maybe it just doesn’t like single coils. It also weighs a ton - almost more than my 72 Twin Reverb so its not very practical to lug around unless Im playing a good size gig.
@roaldyboy
@roaldyboy 2 жыл бұрын
Blues Junior costs about twice what it’s worth
@PeterSchuett
@PeterSchuett 2 ай бұрын
The Blues Jr. is know to be not as good as the Pro jr. - unless you modify the speaker and the tubes and some of the caps. Why don't you compare the Pro Jr. to the Delta King 12? (I do understand that the Pro jr. only has a 10 ich speaker and no reverb and no Master volume. But it has THE sound.)
@michaelgaurnier3108
@michaelgaurnier3108 Жыл бұрын
Not even close! The Fender sounds so much better!!!
@tayzer22
@tayzer22 2 жыл бұрын
You cannot go wrong with either. That said, buy both and you won't second-guess yourself. I'm biased (pun intended) since I have Blues Deluxe Rhode Island. The character in these style amps is just unsurpassed.
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