SUR RON BIG BRAKE and BELT UPGRADES

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[@fearceigknighter]

Motorcycle Modders : Let's see how loud we can get! Sur Ron Modders: Let's see how quiet we can make it!

[@BrandMalone24]

Damn you know youre living in 2030 when you have to download an app to tension a belt

[@connoisseuroftigolbitts]

Love seeing jack getting mechanically inclined with all his toys. 👍

[@MRanzmo]

e bikes are fucking awsome, i cant imagine what eBikes/eCars are capable after 5-10 years. future is electric and thats for sure

[@ayersauto]

Finally. been excited to see the belt up grade

[@Dionydejesus]

Drooling here for the Sur-Ron & The Mazda RX-7, Remembering me my old and beautiful RX-3 AND RX-7 BEAUTIFUL CARS 😢

[@lisadaniels5996]

I like the sound of it now!! They are too much fun.

[@JonoGT0]

Nice upgrade with the rotor. Hope quality is also awesome

[@linecookdan]

He said "no warranty" realllly quick

[@alexduque2513]

Hey sup Jack Cecil from SW Florida have a nice day man Keep make more KZbin videos it is very good and I like it A lot of your car and I love Japan ?

[@ethanheck23]

Hey Jack I love the SUR RON content! I have information to share. I race downhill mountain bikes, and I am very familiar with brake setup. The bigger Hope rotor along with the Shimano pads is a great setup. However, if you ever feel that you want to run the Hope calipers and levers, I would advise against it. I used to run Hope levers, calipers, rotors, and pads on my DH bike and was constantly bleeding brakes after each ride. I went with the Shimano Zee levers, calipers, rotors, and pads. They have been doing great for me. I love the way they bite and they are very low maitence wise. I look forward to more vids on the SUR RON!

[@tyronerobert5702]

JACK THE 3ROTOR in the beginning intro never gets old, more on the sur ron yeh

[@ianrushsmoustache2282]

Loving the videos on the Sur Ron jack , The Hope factory is about 10minutes from my house in Lancashire England

[@JackCecil]

That’s very cool! If you ever go over there let them know we are using the rotors!!

[@bobscott8785]

OMG. Switch to the complete Hope Brake set up! Hope make the super powerful, highly adjustable, beautiful components. I've purchased 4 sets over the years for bikes I've owned.

[@sumi7065]

on my mtb to align the brake caliper so it doesnt rub i loosen it so it moves somewhat freely and then hold the brake in and tighten down the caliper without letting go of the brake, bike has to be off the ground to do this

[@JK-tu1xx]

*video starts with violent camera movement* My first thought: "yeah this is gonna be Rudnik" Rudnik: "Hello all the Jack fans here" Me: "begone foul beast"

[@henryhammond882]

Jack, you could do a video going over your dust bunnie collection and i would still watch it, you do a great job of being informative and entertaining at the same time.

[@JackCecil]

Thank you lol.

[@OG-nl8so]

Way to go Jack first make sure you can stop before how fast can you make it go your a wise man 🚲⚡💨💨💨🛑💥⚰️

[@terryjones7778]

Thats much better jack . Should have come from the factory like that !

[@carlosnoneya224]

Super nice

[@Mr.M1STER]

That thing seems so much quieter. Nice.

[@JackCecil]

Mr.Mister night and day difference

[@skyungjae]

How is the front pulley holding up? I’ve heard people complaining about it wearing out rather quickly.

[@riptheebrakegaming8554]

Finally 😭😭❤️ jack got ruddy to man up an get one

[@Iym2fast4you]

Just need to add a speaker that plays the Jetsons car sound when you are moving!

[@racerx7413]

Good stuff bro keep rolling 💪💯👍👍🆗😂

[@alexandrealbergaria6224]

cool seeing those mods! This needs a body kit! ha!

[@MoxyDave]

Great to see a belt drive secondary. I did that to my Triumph Bobber last Christmas. Made a HUGE difference for the better. I haven't seen one yet for the Sur-Ron. This is dope! Has it been durable?

[@user-yd1vi9zf6w]

May I ask what app you used to tension the belt?

[@clevero8532]

I love this thing

[@regnardin]

Thanks Jack Cecil for vidéo on sur-ron !

[@Dionydejesus]

And Diony soon gonna have one too!! 😂😂 STOKE !

[@MollyDogsm]

My only criticism or concern is those spacers look like they might cause some extra flex making the braking feel a bit funny. I'd rather a solid plate that sits against the fork to space the whole bracket out.

[@ilikechiken6326]

I am surprised jack was okay with using those wee little spacers, they will definitely cause some play in the brakes, in the mountain bike world when you add a bigger disc/rotor you would not use little spacers you would buy the proper sized mount that bolt directly to the fork then to the caliper

[@kinn1647]

Remember the cartoon The JETSONS sounds like a car off there 😁👍

[@markrodrigue6913]

Those adjustments made a big noticeable difference. That was one thing I didn't like about these bikes, although it performed well, it to me was just a bit still noisy, whenever it was rev'd up. Its not like you could come down your street unnoticed, people could still hear the noise of the bike, but now I can definitely tell a 75% noise reduction, even at lower speeds. But I think it should come from the factory like that. I want one, but i don't feel like putting time into setting the bike up for quieter performance, for 3500, it should already come that way. When you think of something being " electric " you automatically think of like a golf cart, and it being quiet. But this was a good video, and I hope someone from the manufacturer sees this, and make these modifications.

[@FallacyPolice69]

Did you really just make a comment saying a surron is too loud coming down the street lol

[@naveenpalarapu4960]

they have a chain on them because they are more durable for jumps and the surron is a electric “dirt bike” so they would naturally care more about durability that sound

So these don't cut the motor when braking? Regen thru the chain/belt by any chance?

[@peterportelance9804]

Top Mod With Brake 😎.👍

[@chriscoast2coast1207]

Do you have the X controller? The X controller is quieter then the stock one. Good upgrades how is the front break better?

[@choppaj247]

Still recommend the bike? You take the Moto tires any off road? Ie light sand dirt etc

[@mikem7618]

Those hope rotors are floating and that makes more noise those will also go bad faster. I used to run them on all my dh bikes but not that good

[@fatguyonalittlebike3336]

Where did you find a 225mm? Can’t find one anywhere in stock or that will ship to the US, been looking for like a year lol

[@gastongregory1167]

How much improvement did the rotor make?

[@kevinargust3694]

@7.04. looks like you have not installed the chain stay brace repair. The holes for the four bolts were drilled, but the plate didn't look like it was installed.

[@iainbrown4945]

Does the belt kit reduce weight materially ?

[@billcarter7384]

Patiently waiting for my Sur Ron x to arrive with my belt drive already installed on it

[@First.Last.99]

why dont u make a video with ur bike?

[@robertposter3715]

Hey quick answer where can I get those spacer and bolts to buy?

[@wholebetter]

Thanks for the post guys !! Going to get one soon !! How did the Hope 225 work with your spacer mod ? I will be doing off road alittle and some down hills so I know I want to get the biggest disk I can for the front.

[@ptescreen18]

Milo 158 I can’t find the spacer kit

[@CaptanTaco]

JACK YOU GOT THE SAME COLOR ROTOR AS ME! 😉 You won’t regret the power from that rotor:edit you should up grade the rear rotor as well but go with the same size In the rear

[@ChiThienNguyen9]

Hello. Have you tested this belt drive kit with 72V battery and BAC8000? If yes, is the belt strong enough?

[@dexgray4581]

Good question!

[@TurboTurdBurglar]

You should do a give a way with 1

[@pocho3881]

Give away a surron? Damn

[@lewishamos9402]

I'm getting one in 4 weeks, currently saving like a madman, getting a road legal version with a plate which is a grand more

[@JackCecil]

Hell yea!

[@vvlswapd200sx]

U mean u waiting for your tax returns lol

[@lewishamos9402]

@@vvlswapd200sx no

[@henryhammond882]

@@vvlswapd200sx bruh

[@kevinkev1530]

@@vvlswapd200sx lol

[@themountain59]

"...a little bit of motor noise..." :D :D

[@bikesnjosh]

get some upgraded brakes aswell any high end mtb brake will work id reccomend some 4pot hope or magura , would seriously increase braking power

[@hafeexius]

It sounds like it came straight out of the Jetsons 😄

[@baccarah7010]

I dont have any actual knowledge on the surron because I never worked on one but a good friend of mine runs a non-electric bicycle with a belt and pinion gearbox, and he needs to change out the belt pullys every 3k miles. (He rides his bike like a mad man, hes been doing 150 miles every week at a high pace)

[@inmotion81]

When you gunna do big power upgrades

[@ptescreen18]

Where did you get that spacer kit for the 225mm disk , I can’t find anything 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼 thanks so much

[@LarryRichelli]

I know how frustrating this is....why can't the guy just put the links for the parts that he does the video on???

[@vicstruys9948]

What brake claws are that

[@user-vz7tj4hq8b]

do you think a smaller than 42 teeth in the back will achieve higher top speed

[@tawaitai]

There is a YT video covering all pros/cons about street legal eBikes, I believe it may be @lunacycles but I could be mistaken.

[@joshdobson2737]

In my mind anyway it might be more efficient with the belt drive

[@lightning_dynamics]

mhhhh...hearing this, think I need that belt too, but first have to rewire mine for the new controller and get that Magura MT 7 in.

[@fabianvasquezjr8852]

What's that going to cost me to get all the top upgrades and the beefed up battery pack, shipped to the USA? To see which kidney I've got to sell.

[@luisrivera-pq7jd]

How much do you want for it I want one just like that, powerful,fast and quiet, please lmk

[@fredmaldonado9204]

One question. Does it turn off the power to the engine when you use the brakes?

[@alberto14ro95]

No

[@laurentguetto7622]

Hello, what IS the top speed?

[@OG_ArthurSlugworth]

I thought you said I was gonna get one!!!!! lol... these things are the shit they should be me a free one I work 5 miles away I would daily this thing unless we have snow! so cool. PS.. please mine your inactive at the moment ha

[@JackCecil]

Def not inactive lol

[@lvlack420]

JACK... WUT IS THE CORRECT TENSION ON THE APP FOR A SURRON ?????????

[@eduardosanchez2773]

Wich belt drive system do you recommend and where can I buy it? Thanks for the info.

[@fromtheflightdeck252]

Gates Carbon belt kit from Luna Cycle. I built a solar charging station for my bikes.

[@connorwhite102]

I'm curious why you went for the hope floating rotors over the Ice Tech ones as some past experience with DH bikes them hope floating rotors start to rattle after some heavy braking

[@JackCecil]

This bike will never see heavy braking. And i couldn’t find the ice tech in a 225mm

[@connorwhite102]

@@JackCecil oh I see to be honest I've never tried to find them that big. Keep up the great work as usual Jack

[@topcat8820]

Any issues with the belt yet bro ??

[@yessur4753]

If you want a 4 gears with a manual clutch that's full size electric dirt bike then EBeast is the one. We also have a 4 gears electric dirt with a manual clutch that's mid size similar to the ET Time Moto called the EFox! Seen on my Channel

[@JackCecil]

The purpose of the light bee is to be small, compact, and easy to manage. If you want a big dirt bike, buy a big dirt bike. I wanted a small compact bike to commute with.

[@Luke-qs2cg]

Needs top speed mods. I wanna see 100+ out of one of these with proper mods

[@tawaitai]

and what are you really gonna do with a 100mph Sur-Ron besides go straight???

[@troymuni6120]

@3:20 "these come off pretty easy" - lol yeah, maybe in Hait. I stripped my stock rotors to shit trying to get them off.

[@therealboofighter]

So much better with the belt.

[@ilikechiken6326]

Jack, at 4:07 you can see there is a bracket that bolts the caliper to the fork.. please get rid of those spacers and buy yourself the proper sized bracket for your new rotor I am a mountain bike fanatic and i know if i used little spacers like that on my mountain bike i would feel the flex/play in my brakes

[@ptescreen18]

I Like Chiken does hope do the 225mm bracket mate ? Thanks

[@jaskanwarrandhawa6577]

jack put on a big brake kit on a bike

[@lewishamos9402]

What spacers are they?

[@JackCecil]

12mm

[@sorijin]

Are these from lunacycle or no? If they're imported, from where?

[@First.Last.99]

looks like LunaCycle onem you have one from Russia is SurronShop a bit more expensive but I think better, more teethes and mud holes for mud

[@bradcasssr8947]

Is that rear pulley on back backward it say in should it say out at 7:17 or is in the brand

[@JackCecil]

No it says MADE IN USA

[@kamikazekaos]

Where did you get the belt kit from?

[@First.Last.99]

probably LunaCycles

[@rhyboy1]

why do you have to cut the metal? i dont get it,,

[@First.Last.99]

you cant put the belt otherwise pi think, you can remove the chain but u cant put belt

[@normschilling4622]

Link to rotor? Also, Just saw a vid yesterday that all Chinese ebikes no longer get the 25% import tax.. is this gonna drop a chunk on these bikes now?

[@JackCecil]

Norm Schilling that is not true

[@oscarperez1056]

Hey man where did you get the spacers for the rotor? Or does it come with it?

[@JackCecil]

I made them.

[@oscarperez1056]

Do you remember the length you used ??

[@freddybell8328]

Link to the belt kit?

[@stevenvisca5979]

where did you order your sur ron im trying to get one on alibaba but they want to communicate on whats app . i dont want to get scammed please help thanks steven visca

[@MRTuning704]

I would be swapping the chain on The future is crazy

[@kevinkev1530]

I like the chain better too

[@VittorioMarcottoFilms]

where can i buy rims ?

[@WheelieFreak]

The way you align the disk brake is by losing the bolts of the calipers, push the lever and tight the bolts at the same. Thank me later :)

[@JackCecil]

It gets you close but never perfect. I use light and gentle adjustments to find center.

[@jmyd83]

Rodnok hasn't got the Gucci Belt yet lol

[@brock9518]

Jack will use it but rudnik I give a month and that thing will be in the background of his shop sitting collecting dust wondering what's its purpose lol

[@connoisseuroftigolbitts]

Remember the ruckus?

[@brock9518]

@@connoisseuroftigolbitts or what about the yellow jeep?

[@JackCecil]

And I’ll buy it back.

[@ilikechiken6326]

He also has a Kawasaki klx110 sitting in tommys shop that has a hole in the crank case or something and it seems he forgot about that

[@kurtseyffert6649]

@@brock9518 sold

[@josephenglish3009]

Is it faster ?

[@JackCecil]

Yes! 3mph gain top speed

[@andrewclancy7906]

This thing needs to pull 80mph AND QUICK Sir Jack..

[@connoisseuroftigolbitts]

Jacks gonna need a suit & helmet! Quick!

[@andrewclancy7906]

@@connoisseuroftigolbitts Wait wait wait.. He's got a helmet BUT the real question is .. HOW DID YOU MISS HIM SPORTING IT WHILE RIDING!?! LOL.. I only remember cause his girl was WEARING THE SEXIEST OUTFIT.. YOW'ZERZ!!

[@PhiTonics]

Aw man, a hope rotor but no hope breaks? That's a crime 😆 the orange breaks would look fly with your bike 👌

[@BLAAKA100]

If you want to show off your craft, my name is Damian...? boy I would really love a SUR-RON e-bike to ride around the city and show off, the real fast car with a real fast rider... You see, I know I'm on time

[@darylogle6696]

Now you gotta do is make it faster but not too fast

[@ludicrousfilms635]

Do you think the belt will hold up with more power??

[@JackCecil]

We dynod one today at 22hp (mine is 6.9hp) with the belt no problem.

[@ludicrousfilms635]

@@JackCecil can't wait! I have one and I've been waiting for upgrades for a while. I don't know much about programming those asi controllers so I was hoping a kit would come out or something

[@eduardosanchez2773]

I need to build mine and I spent over 13,000 in aftermarket parts. How can I get in touch with you so if you agree I can pay you to help me build mine?

[@eduardosanchez2773]

I live close to you according to yoir videos.

[@JuergenKoenen]

where can I buy this belt kit?????

[@First.Last.99]

Luna Cycles

[@CmdrTigerKing]

51 mph top speed?

[@Jared-pr6hr]

Man I want one but can't really justify 3-4k for one

[@pmmartinpmjm]

Same here.

[@aceburgers8801]

Same, if these were 2k id buy one

[@Jon95McC]

Agreed. It's pretty cool technology and the fact that you can ride it virtually anywhere is cool but I'd still rather a motorcycle or dirt bike for the money.

[@JackCecil]

Worth every penny

[@Jared-pr6hr]

@@Jon95McC that's exactly how I feel