Sur-Ron X Black Edition Shimano Brake Upgrade Installation and Testing

[@emotobros]

Please check the description if you curious on any of the details regarding the testing and some speculation on the results.

[@gear323]

Stock pads suck on the Surron. H03A is the best pads I have used. Bike stops much faster now. Just as importantly, I also have more control and can stop fast without locking up the wheel. So much better on extreme steep downhills that I used to have to lock the rear tire all the way down. Now with these pads I can just go slow without locking up.

[@Danielxperez14]

Did u keep the stock rotors?

[@First.Last.99]

thank you, it was easy. Only got stuck little bit to put back the safety pin on the side, the little dangly thing, but if you look closely its easier to find the way it goes in. thx

[@jayfalcon22]

Great vid 👍 , this was perfect for a beginner like myself.

[@jwdonal]

Excellent. Very clear and precise instructions. Thanks!

[@SummerlinRealtor]

Just changed to these pads yesterday! Wow! Huge difference! Thanks for this awesome video!

[@emotobros]

Right! Crazy how much of a difference just pads can make.

[@Brian-cw4iy]

The cotter pin replaces both the retention bolt and snap ring. Obviously you don't have to use it but that is what it is for.

[@emotobros]

This makes more sense. Some motorcycles and cars will have the cotter pin on the retention bolt.

[@budwhite9781]

Very well done. Thank you.

[@brycehustad1665]

Great video, everything is very clear and helpful. Keep them coming. One suggestion though. You should put a link to the aftermarket parts you're talking about. i would like to know how much these parts are to tell if they're worth it to me and to make sure I am looking at the correct part.

[@jwdonal]

They tell you exactly which part with a close up picture of the retail package. But yes I agree a link would be easier and leave no room for confusion. It's possible they just don't want to promote any one specific vendor for the parts.

[@liveteklol]

Hello guys, do you have a recomendation for heavy Duty brakes kit when using the Sur-Ron with big muds and Sands ? My OEM brakes calipers don't likes sand at all and are already unusable, thanks

[@Vasil555Visions]

Keep up the great vids!

[@JPTulo]

Hey, great video! I have a slightly related issue. My brakes work great, but the lever on the right side doesn’t return all the way open after braking. It’s not a huge deal, just kind of annoying that I can push it just a little bit open after braking, unlike the left one that returns all the way open on it’s own after braking. Any suggestions? Thanks!

[@downtowndialogue]

Hey homie, just subscribed. My Sur Ron X delivers in a couple of days, and I'm gonna be doing videos on it too. Just wanna make or join a YT community out of these things.

[@bobbysakaki5989]

When did you order bro?

[@downtowndialogue]

@@bobbysakaki5989 May 26th

[@NoProDad]

cool! how long you keep the stock pads? are the stock pads decent? thanks!

[@emotobros]

I changed my pads before ever even riding the bike, but I still have the stock ones. On Cole's bike, he is still running the stock pads in the rear and frankly that's all they are good for. They just don't offer enough stopping power for the front.

[@NoProDad]

@@emotobros cool! i see some stock ones are noisy, is that right out the box? im waiting for my sur ron to ship and trying to prepare 👍

[@emotobros]

@@NoProDad We have ran ours for a couple hundred miles and haven't heard a single squeal. Sur-Ron said that these pads are different than the ones that used to come on the bike.

[@NoProDad]

Thanks for your helpful videos! Do these Shimano pads fit the rear caliper as well? When I slide them in there is literally no room for the rotor and that stock pad not as thick.. feedback would be great! 👍

[@emotobros]

Yeah they fit, sounds like you need to spread your pistons

[@NoProDad]

@@emotobros I will try but they look flush? i put the the stock pads back in without any problem.

[@emotobros]

Fitment is definitely super tight but they’ll go. We’ve done a few sets at this point. Even a few extra mm from the pistons make a big difference.

[@NoProDad]

@@emotobros awesome! Thanks for your feedback. I will try to spread the pistons and go from there. Thanks!

[@NoProDad]

@@emotobros it worked! Thanks again guys. Great channel.

[@tamerqashou4550]

Hello, what do you think is better x260 or surron x? I hope to reply as soon as possible. Greetings

[@raphygenty8656]

Hey there! my sur ron came with no snap ring for the brake pads, and being to worried about them falling out, I overtightened and probably stripped. Advice?

[@emotobros]

What method did it use to secure the pin? I’d definitely buy one if it didn’t come with one.

[@r00kiet80]

why do you prefer organic over metal i feel metal is a lot better for heavy bikes so its pretty much a must for something like the surron

[@emotobros]

Organic pads have better stopping power and a better feel in my opinion. They are also usually cheaper. Metallic pads last longer and are better for wet conditions but we have close to 300mi on the organic pads and they still have life left in them.

[@r00kiet80]

@@emotobros organic pads have better stopping power when their cold metalic are miles better hot considering the weight of the surron ur brakes run extremly hot on most dh tracks so running organic is pretty risky since they break way worse when hot and also wear off extremly fast when hot so if ur using surron for street/straight tracks organic is better but as soon as it gets a bit steep its metalic all the way theres a reason every downhill racer runs metallic and pretty much all e-downhillbikes out of the fabric

[@emotobros]

Very interesting, hasn’t been our experience with them. We haven’t once experienced any brake fade even after a long ride and they are easily strong enough to lock up both wheels.

[@tobal350z]

can both resin/metal be used on the stock disks?

[@r00kiet80]

@@tobal350z yep they can but i would upgrade to other breaks aswell but stay away from resin on the surron for normal biking its fine

[@captainjimmy7626]

Please post the details of the pads , which ones to buy ?

[@emotobros]

Second sentence in the video. Shimano H03A.

[@romankuletski9146]

​@@emotobrosIsn't H03C (the metal version) better? Even Luna recommends it.

[@fatguyonalittlebike3336]

Can’t get mine in, how do you “reset” the pistons. They are not budging at all with pressure from a pry bar.. I don’t have to bleed them do I?

[@emotobros]

Maybe try opening the master cylinder reservoir

[@fatguyonalittlebike3336]

@@emotobros ahh yes that could help, thanks for reply

[@ddmjr2284]

@@emotobros what screw type is it?

[@troymuni6120]

Hey guys, I'm looking into changing my front and rear brakes to Hope Tech3 E4 and was wondering which type of brake mounts I should select for the front and rear? I can select either international standard or post. I can't seem to find this info anywhere online. Thanks

[@emotobros]

We have not put hope brakes on so we do not know what to recommend to you. We don’t feel hope upgrades are a large enough improvement over the stock for the money and I would recommend trying out a 223 mm rotor before completely replacing the brakes. Much cheaper and will have enough power to overpower any amount of traction you will have in the front.

[@troymuni6120]

E-Moto Bros thanks guys, appreciate it. The stock brake calipers are too soft so I wanted to change them out. I found some green levers and other components to match my new Emerald forks. Couldn’t resist, so I already pulled the trigger. Already have the larger rotors. Bike looks awesome with the green foot pegs I picked up...just need a green spring now and a can of plastidip to hit my hand guard clamps with.

[@emotobros]

Sounds like a sick build

[@troymuni6120]

@@emotobros Yeah it looks pretty good and I got the last of the green Hope parts. Got a sick new helmet in the other day too..IXS Trigger FF in black. Lightest available. Just need to get my custom wheels built now and figure out my controller situation so I can use my 72v. Any ETA on yours?

[@emotobros]

@@troymuni6120 We just got the bike running on the stock battery and BAC4000 last night and the preliminary results look promising. ASI is working on updating our harness to accept the display we want to use than it will be ready. We are working on a website to sell them and the debugging process is extremely slow so bear with us. Should be in the next couple months.

[@coldasspiece]

How tall are u guys. I’m trying to gauge how big I would be on a surron

[@emotobros]

We are both 5' 11". Our friend who is 6' 2" has comfortably rode it. Something to note is that ours have pro-taper 3" risers.

[@tmiddleton5979]

@@emotobros How did you guys mount your protapers to the stock head clamp? I was thinking some rubber hose would help!

[@CJMoto]

@@tmiddleton5979 if you get the right ones they fit right on. Pro taper 810 3mm rise

[@dexikid]

YO, so I'm dealing with extended pistons and cannot for the life of me figure out how to bed them back in. I squeeze one into place the three others pop out. I removed cap on hydrolics to allow pressure to disappat to no avail... wondering how to fix this. Can't get the pads in

[@emotobros]

You’ll probably end up needing a pad spreader.