Surefire RC3 vs Hux Suppressors

[@fmxmyway]

I own both. I can honestly testify that the Hux is preferred for 556.

[@Osprey1994]

I've shot a few of the flow through cans thanks to my job. The Hux is my favorite in terms of size and sound. Close second was one that my buddy had, but I can't remember what it was.

[@HULKHANDS]

Which model?

[@fmxmyway]

@@HULKHANDS556k

[@EmpTy-kf2rq]

A collar is a failure point. It’s recommended to weigh the can when new so you can make your own judgement on when to clean them after gaining a certain amount out carbon. Cleaning a Hux regularly will make it last significantly past 25k.

[@kylehill4437]

I got both...zombie apocalypse and 1,000+ rds courses= RC3...everyday shooting, shorter courses under 1000 rds and competition Hux

[@mousemx1534]

Earlier this week I ordered a Geissele Super Duty and I guess I didn't pay attention because today when I picked it up at the FFL I saw it that it did not come with a SureFire closed thyme muzzle device for my SOCOMs. So now I have to spend $1300 + $200 tax stamp for a new HUXWRX FLOW 556 Ti (in FDE of course).

[@bizzlebeedizzle3910]

Or u could just swap the muzzle device lol. Dwilson manufacturing or adco firearms sylvania Ohio are a couple very capable gunsmiths able to swap a pin and weld. The old muzzle device will be trashed tho.

[@practicepractice5719]

I'm not aware of a wrench to tighten Huxwrx cans down.............? I thought the whole idea of the opposite threading is that it tights as you shoot....no need to wrench it on? (I prefer Surefire as well)

[@Bucky69]

They literally have wrench flats on the base of the can

[@practicepractice5719]

I found this on Huxwrx installation (on their youtube channel).....no wrench....? kzbin.info/www/bejne/jZ2zmJSojbJ2ms0si=OJ2cmA-Tn5AJW1W1

[@practicepractice5719]

That is “literally” for removal if it gets carbon locked (which it does). NOT for installation...... Again, I'm not a HUX fanboy ( I prefer Surefire) , but lets be accurate, thats all......

[@practicepractice5719]

Another HUX video (from HUX) showing this....and the wrench for removal (not installation) (video found in 10 sec search) kzbin.info/www/bejne/pojQo6aKetaKaK8si=QwwWJdbVEmeFk-OU

[@somethinganything4864]

yeah a wrench isn't required

[@thomasarchambault9463]

Both are great cans.

[@eagleclaw6]

Finally a simple accurate answer!

[@Osprey1994]

This will be interesting. A competition shooters opinion up against someone like Brass Facts or Hop who shoots out in the mountains. I appreciate the data point. I do think that people should go look at the RC3 testing that people like Brass Facts has done. The signature under nods is a factor for some people.

[@musophobicrat]

Brass facts hasn’t actually done any testing on the RC3. But if you do want them compared under nods there is a video by Fort Knox podcast

[@MrCashewkitty]

Ive personally seen 2 HUX cans durring night shoots. I would never choose one. Its ridiculous. A big glowing, dick shaped, shoot me sign. Its also way louder downrange. I dont even like cans and the only reason i ise them is to hide signature, specifically at nigjt. The HUX is an absolute no go

[@Kenposhinobi]

Silencer tech is my tism. I have no brand loyalty, I just like shooting good cans that perform well in multiple metrics. and I’ve shot a tons of different cans. Including on a host with an adjustable gas block to see how much gas is needed to lock back with different cans. Do yourself a favors and when you have a chance, try out a Velos LBP, a FOR Systems 762, and especially a CAT WB and a PTR Vent3. All of these cans in assending order, have very good backpressure reduction while still maintaining good to amazing muzzle suppression. and Surefire,the Deadair KeyMo and SiCo ASR are the worst QD Systems.

[@douglasmilburn3875]

If you have a dedicated “suppressor launch pad” at your work range, that is in fact a working range hahaha

[@chanceywestfall6343]

So the 10.3" gun with the Hux can sounded the same as a 14.5" with the surefire... and they had the same amount of gas in the face? that sounds like one performs better than the other in everyway but longevity.

[@jonathandebona8934]

Shooting the suppressor off is not a positive feature. The hux you just use a wrench to take off if it carbon locks. You shouldnt have to wrench it to put it on, since it self tightens. The surefire mounting system adds weight and length. Its not superior in any way

[@thepizzaman99]

Flow through sucks balls

[@MrCashewkitty]

It cant be any worse. The Hux is the absolute worst choice for anyone shooting under nods and thermals. Its also much louder downrange than other cans.

[@thepizzaman99]

@MrCashewkitty but bro no tuning required because changing a buffer weight is too hard. And the gas hurts my wittle eyes

[@jonathandebona8934]

@@MrCashewkitty according to pewscience the rc3 and hux have pretty much equal muzzle signature... I dont think either are ideal for flash reduction. But for anyone not in the military or law enforcement the rc3 is probably one of the worst choices on the market. Especially if price is a factor.

[@MrCashewkitty]

Is the RC3 double walled?

[@dar5647]

Its not the rifling that tightens the hux can. Its the direction the gas vents. it doesnt just work in theory. You can put one on and witness mark it. After 3 shots it will have a visible movement. You dont need a wrench to put it on. just hand tight. Im not sure i believe youre not getting carbon lock. Its like the most common thing with surefire cans. the hux is also a fair amount lighter. The comments about the hux lifespan are super conservative estimates from hux because its a new can. They expect it will be more in line with other cans. you seem to not know a lot about the can (including its name) for making a comparison and recommendation.

[@chrisharris9710]

But GBRS just did a can video and didn’t even mention Surefire. Doesn’t that mean Surefire is no good? 😂

[@goldrush49]

Just overrated

[@WDLC1911]

Chris, only if you hang in every word GBRS says…

[@WDLC1911]

@@goldrush49, not overrated. Just “overpriced”. 😊

[@Just_a_guy093]

Tell sig they are overrated for winning out against the comp for the ngsw contract among others… if it sucked it wouldn’t be in wide spread use in the military… mothers like there boys coming home and the surefire does that…. Go be hipsters elsewhere you plebs

[@Redbusser40]

Crs prt enters the chat 😈

[@CA.0verview]

Oooo vs pub spicy convo.

[@wayashootnsports]

I don’t trust those taper mounts the locking collar and being able to shoot it off is cool.

[@armorers_wrench]

You realize tapered threads are used heavily in the aerospace industry and other heavy industrial applications? You are free to do your own research but a properly machined taper will very effectively seal off the threads from carbon fouling and will require ~15% more torque to remove than it did to install. Where you MIGHT run into issues is on a tolerance critical taper that has been coated with something like PVD which just barely alters the dimensions of the finished part. It barely alters the dimensions--but it does alter them. You cannot control the uniformity/thickness of certain pvd coatings which can completely nullify the effect of a taper. This is exactly what happened with the CGS SCI-SIX using the CGS Mount. If you look around online you'll see a lot of people complaining about the mount backing off. This is why. This is also why so many of the Q/Rearden Plan B mounts are simply heat treated and not coated. It doesn't effect the concentricity of the taper and it doesn't alter dimensions. This is why you should avoid hypebeast companies that seem to come outta nowhere, not why you should avoid tapered mounts. The Hypebeast companies think they're engineers. The companies that have been around for a while know that they need to employ actual engineers so you won't run into those problems.

[@KeterMalkuth]

​@@armorers_wrenchThis isn't me disagreeing with you, I'm with you 100%; however, it's pretty funny to me that you talk about the Q devices being superior, while also advising against "hypebeast" companies. Q has great engineers, but they're the definition of a hype beast type company 🤣

[@wayashootnsports]

@@armorers_wrench Thanks for the info I knew none of that. I just know I’ve had two Tapered mounts fail (Q funny enough) and never had an rc2 back out in almost 100,000 rounds between 3 different rc2s. So if it gives me problems I will not use it anymore. Alot of things work in theory but not in practice. Im a history major not an engineer so if something historically has failed, I personally am not going with it. I also shoot my rifles til they get carbon locked so I like being able to launch them off.

[@PandemicGameplay]

​@armorers_wrench A taper mount is never 100% locked up, once it cools it can loosen up, it relies on heat and gas to self seal, the Surefire mount is 100% not coming off, they are both good mounts, it's just whether you want 100% lock up or using something more industry standard like a taper mount it's more lightweight.

[@eagleclaw6]

As a Machinist of 35years now, a taper fit is second to none!

[@FDCNC]

This is why I don't take suppressor advice from these guys. They have no idea what they're talking about😂. Stick to shooting.