Surprisingly Detailed Dapol LNER Teak Coaches in N Gauge | Unboxing & Review

[@cirseltoo]

as a former judge for the innovation award at Warley show, we gave Dapol the award in 2007 or 2008 (I can't remember which) for kinematic couplings in N

[@Decrepit_biker]

Sam, I have had a rake of 10 of these for a few years. Some of which i believe are early ones. Yes they were that good in 2007! As for the finish I have never looked close enough to see just how the teak finish is done, with the dots. I just asked my friend who works in printing and he thinks that due to the paint used it is necessary to do it that way make it possible to represent the wood grain, and take advantage of the human brain filling in the gaps.....To me they look absolutely fine! No one views N from as close is you have normally ( I appreciate that its necessary to review them) Also N gauge coupling usually requires a little help, due to the lightness of most stock. You have to remember that the very small locos in N (yes even an A4 is just a tiny loco in N) might be pulling a prototypical rake of 10 or 15 coaches, so they have to light. Dont forget many N gauge layouts also have gradients.....Diecast would NOT be helpful in the least, so I feel you're a little harsh in that criticism!! Otherwise a decent review.

[@iansngauge]

Hi Sam! Loving the N gauge reviews! Keep 'em coming! Just bear in mind that you can't make the rolling stock much heavier, otherwise the little motors in the locos wouldn't be able to haul more than a couple of them up inclines or around tight curves! Dapol do a great range of N gauge rolling stock, most of it excellent, and much better than the Brittania you looked at! I think I've mentioned before that their diesels are pretty good too! All the best, Ian.

[@adamlim1644]

Glad to see more N Scale videos! Are there any plans for a Japanese N scale train in the future?

[@NWRJ_WStudios]

Hi Sam, I just wanted to give you a update on my GER P43 project. I've completely finished with the tender body and it look wonderful, now I'll be making the chassis for it. I'll keep you updated on what happens next. Cheers Jasper & Willow

[@Pedro-lf4gr]

I have a full rake 7 of these teak coaches inc Buffet Car all fitted with light bars to illuminated the coaches, and they look great behind an LNER A4 👍

[@davidstrains4910]

Not a bad set of coaches here Sam, my dad has a rake of 4 teaks but I believe they may be trix or minitrix ones I think

[@lukebarber9511]

I can't wait to see what you purchased to haul these coaches!

[@joek5882]

Wow...Sam is reviewing something I actually have! I bought these to compliment the N scale Flying Scottsman set I was purchasing. I got them all in York at a lovely little toy/model shop. I can't remember the name but it was located right at the old city wall...my wife was thrilled with the purchase after having just unloaded a significant amount of money at the National Rail Museum. 😝

[@stephenmckay-clark]

Monk Bar Models that would be.

[@GaryNumeroUno]

Hi mukka, Looks like the brown interior colour is closer to the right shade for the exteriors albeit a bit on the darker side. The pinky exteriors and buffers are just not right at all and need revisiting with a spray gun. Cheers from Oz. Gaz 😅

[@davidmolin8944]

So glad to see more n scale reviews and one that went well considering the flop that was the Britannia

[@KenCreswick]

Hi Sam, great to see you venturing into N Scale 👍

[@DennisLora2001]

This first N scale review is okay but you did a good job as always Sam

[@redversb2347]

Barbie wants her coaches back! Nice detail and performance - but not sure I could get used to that pinky colour. 😂

[@vehicles_n_stuff]

I like it, I wish more of them were interesting colors.

[@caw25sha]

It looks like faded oxide, the colour wagons were often painted in. I don't think there is one single correct colour, even when new and freshly varnished, but the Dapol colour is way off any variation. There are a number of preserved coaches around for reference. The base colour really should be some shade of brown, somewhere between light-ish neutral brown to a rich reddish brown colour. I suspect they were attempting the latter but got it wrong.

[@SwanSycorax]

More N-Guage please Sam. I got back into model railways back in December, some 35 years since I built a layout for my son! I debated for some time whether to go OO or N and finally plumped for the latter as there is so much more scope for more realistic length trains in a limited space. I dismissed TT-120 almost immediately as there was little in the range that appealed to me. During the past four months i have built an "L" shaped end to end layout with a twin track terminus at each end with loop-back facilities for the locos. I am really impressed with the level of detail on all the rolling stock and locos. My one frustration is with the couplings which I find can be unreliable and, as your video shows, sometimes need manual intervention to couple up. I have replaced mine with the latest "Hunt Elite" magnetic couplings which are super reliable. They currently need manual intervention to uncouple but I understand Hunts are currently developing an automatic uncoupling system for them which I really hope will be successful as they are the one thing missing from what I need for my layout.

[@christopherstokes9393]

I have a rake of these, that I got some time around 2011, and they have kinematic couplings (and provision for lighting) - so, they may well have had those features since they were released! But I agree that, even today, they're still well worth getting :) .

[@fredburley9512]

They look very well made and move beautifully. 10 of these behind a silver Gresley Pacific would be awesome.

[@Elvinley]

Farish do some amazing coaches such as the faux teak Thompsons. Pricey but so good! The Dapol ones look good with lightbars fitted (this was a later addition a few years after release. If they are in the blue boxes as opposed to the old ones they have light fitting capabilities). Some lightbars have been known to cause roof damage due to faulty electronics; I have had a couple let me down this way. The Dapol teaks look much better with a dark wash applied.

[@johnscarsandstuff]

I've got quite a lot of these Dapol LNER coaches in all three liveries (teak, crimson/cream and maroon). I think they were trend-setting in their day for the kinematic couplings and general detail. I think the only update has been to add the pick-ups and fittings to take a light bar. Compared to the Dapol GWR Collett coaches which were introduced a year earlier (according to Hatton's) the Colletts have bogie-mounted couplings and deeply inset windows, features that have never been updated. Dapol's entry to the UK N-gauge market really raised expectations in terms of detail, if not always running qualities. As for running teak coaches behind a GWR pannier, at least the loco is age-appropriate to the coaches (which the Britannia wouldn't be). I believe some coaches worked inter-regional services and you could get "foreign" coaches turning up across the network.

[@TheJessterFlows]

This would look beautiful pulling behind my N Scale Thomas! Thank you for doing N Scale videos!

[@cdyvids22]

Same here

[@paulcaswell2813]

What the heck would a LBSC 0-6-0T be doing hauling LNER express stock?

[@XleeHS]

bro it’s called playing trains lighten up 😭

[@davidsheriff8989]

Yes, agree Clarabel would look awesome with Thomas

[@davemoore5222]

Odd, I thought that the “inappropriate” 0-6-0T was a GWR 64xx class, not an LBSC 0-6-0T… Thought they looked good on the track though, particularly with the caveat that Sam currently had no alternative loco. I’m looking forward to seeing a more appropriate loco, maybe an A1 or A4… But, you run what you want, and I’ll run what I’ve got (64xx and Autocoach). 👍

[@1471SirFrederickBanbury]

You should see what people in 2mm fine scale do Sam. It’s amazing. Thanks as always!

[@ashindy1]

Yes, they were like that when first released. I have many in various liveries, with the blood and custard probably being the best imo. You should look at the Dapol Maunsell's with their beautiful pull out corridors. Graham Farish Mk1's are pretty good but feature Bachmann's make believe RRP. I can't wait to see you slate their latest Mk2f coaches, with no details or features, yet a 00 price tag...

[@АндрейГеннадьевич-м6б]

Hallo,Sam! Glad to see more and more new n-gauge models, and watch video about it! Thanks!

[@hurstinator]

The only teak coaches before these where Minitrix ones, they held there value very well and still do today. The teak is better on the Dapol, but the minitrix is a very good alternative (those are over 40 years old now!)

[@David-g1p-v8k]

I was buying DB Minitrix in the early '70', the price now even used reflects the quality

[@caw25sha]

Did Graham Farish never make any?

[@hurstinator]

@@caw25sha theydid do some teak carriages. More like a generic 57" and a generic 4 wheeler. Similar what hornby do with the 4 wheelers

[@DrAl60103]

Original releases had the same detail level, but no pickups and light bar socket (something you missed as you need to unclip the roof to expose this). The bogies were also inboard moreso, to cope with the kinematic coupler. The bogies and bogie position were changed to be more realistic (though not totally accurate - for that you need the older Minitrix model) on the later runs like yours.

[@paulcaswell2813]

The 'tumble-home', seen clearly 'end on', is superbly done, unlike Hornby's later (otherwise superb) Gresleys. Hats off to Dapol :-). Also remember that Gresley, from 1905 to 1911, was Carriage and Wagon Superintendent of the Great Northern, prior to becoming CME of that railway, so Gresley carriages go back a long way...

[@marcod1600]

The details on n scale is very good!

[@EsotericArctos]

As usual, i feel your ratings were pretty fair. These are quite amazing coaches for N Scale and being a 2007 release. The paint may not be quite modern standard, but the detail rivals a lot of modern coaches.

[@NWRJ_WStudios]

I'll probably get some of these Sam, because none of my N scale engines have any coaches to run with. That is if I can find them for a good price. Cheers Jasper & Willow

[@adamwilliams192]

Thanks for reviewing these as they are not a model I have seen up close personally, and I am surprised at the decoration choices. Bachmann (Farish) have teaks in their range but much more pricey (surprise), but I think those look lovely and they can be had now for a decent discount. Worth a look for you? Enjoying you covering N, I think I know your next loco as hinted here, hope you are not disappointed 😅 Looking forward to you doing a Diesel😊 Best

[@SarcasticTentacle]

I wish one of the various manufacturers would restock the 4 small four wheel coaches again too.

[@BrakeCoach]

Please do more rolling stock reviews sam! I know this hobby is loco-centered, but I think some of these do deserve reviews

[@Simon-Davis]

These were good coaches for their time, and still stand up fairly well to this day. The roof detail above the corridors is prone to damage, your brake coach is damaged out of the box there, but otherwise they're fairly robust. I've had issues with the kinematic couplings sagging really quite frequently, which on an exhibition layout running 15+ coach trains is not ideal when your trains divide at random. The other issue I've had was a bad batch of lighting bars some years ago, that one resulted in 6 of my Gresleys roofs melting. Swap to magnetic couplers, and stay away from Dapols lighting bars, and these are a decent model for their age. Probably best suited to BR Maroon, the LNER Teak and BR Crimson/Cream liveries have been somewhat questionable over the years.

[@paulsngaugechannel]

Yes the N gauge has been ahead in some areas. Teak represented by the dots, yes when from afar they are decent, but close up, mmm .

[@lindaoffenbach]

More N scale, wonderful. Especially this being the first review of rolling stock. In all fairness Sam, the ratio quality - price isn't all that impressive we thought. Somehow the coaches do look a tad cheapish with quite some rough edges, metaphorically. It's not all that bad though, but just not spot-on on the money. Cheerio.

[@MrSlartybartfast42]

Hi Sam, I've got some of the Dapol Maunsell coaches in SR green which to my eyes are brilliantly painted. I don't think I've paid more than £18 (the most recent from Rails was under £16). Of course I've blown the savings on buying Light Bars for the coaches. You do have to be very careful fitting the light bars as on some Dapol coaches you take the roof off. With the Maunsell coaches you have to take the whole body off. Another feature is that you can extend the connecting corridors. Now I suspect that you are going the review Dapol M7 0-4-4, please note that although it is a small loco it is minimum R2, I tried running mine on R1 but It really did not like it. In particular it hated points placed on a curve ... derailed frequently!

[@lukejackson8741]

Most positive review in a little while, I almost picked up a rake of these for my clubs n gauge layout but decided against it, sort of sad I didn’t now, the delicate detail mark down in quality seems a little harsh, think at this scale it’s going to be a common criticism, coming from a OO background I’m always nervous handling the N-gauge stock at the club

[@drosera88]

If you're looking for some new N scale review ideas, maybe look into some Kato Japanese steam locomotives. I bought a C57 4-6-2 for shell swap to an American prototype and it's an excellent runner. If you're interested, you're best off buying directly from Japan. I use Hobby Search, and most of the steam locos are less $100 USD. Their prices are very reasonable on all of their N-scale offerings.

[@LindseyTate13]

That would be nice to see

[@legoisthebest001SCR]

I think Japan is the only country that have affordable model railway offering, but tariffs, import tax, postage etc makes it bad value if you buy it from USA or the UK

[@drosera88]

@@legoisthebest001SCR I don't know what tariff or import taxes are for the UK but I don't remember paying any for mine. Just shipping, which is reasonable for economy.

[@levidarling5107]

@@legoisthebest001SCR It’s always the taxes that ruin everything!

[@MrGWoodle]

You could have the Pannier (Duck) stand in for Thomas fetching a 2 car teak train. Waiting for Gordon to pull them. Watch for Bachmann N scale Thomas & Friends merch.

[@jackstrains4468]

Great video sam! I do love thw teak effect in general, and the tiny scale here makes them look almost cute?! As i say, i always look forward to your video releases, and great review as always!

[@Wheelchair-Off-roading]

I have the MiniTrix Teaks which, with a Grham Farish A4 actually needed the weights removing so the farish loco could actually pull a rake of 4! the Minitrix A4 however would not (and doesn't) struggle with them, they're not as detailed but the colour is much better. Minitrix is definitely a manufacturer you should look at.

[@davidstrains4910]

That’s a bit odd that, My dad has 4 minitrix teaks, he also has a graham farish flying Scotsman and Sir Nigel Gresley and they don’ seem to have any issues hauling them when I have been using his layout.

[@Wheelchair-Off-roading]

@@davidstrains4910 yeah, it's a bit bonkers tbh, it's an old Farish (i think, pre-china) so no traction tyres and only relient on body weight. it's fine now the weights are removed, but I shouldn't have needed too... the Hall class was the same, though put either of the farish loco's with Farish coaches, no bother at all!

[@tinplategeektoo]

Sam, of course the loco was appropriate for the stock as you are running a heritage line so visiting loco's are a feature not a flaw.

[@cmc9775]

Splendid, nice to see a rolling stock video different then normal, like when you did that railgun. I actually have a thought for two video suggestions. One is a shunting video because we hadn't seen those in a while. And two, sort of a crappy model train Olympics. Where your worst engines compete to see which one is the least crappy. If you pardon my language.

[@cmc9775]

Or just have some awful engines do a shunting video with awful rolling stock for awful engines to pull along the layout.

[@eggweed_productions]

Haha I see you have folk saying don’t too too many more N reviews! Just for my tuppence worth - I’d like to throw the cat among the pigeons and say please do more! I’m about to get into N gauge and there aren’t that many quality reviews around like yours. So please go for it!

[@Gatherleymodeller.]

Hello Sam. Firstly, I have a new series idea if you want me to email you. Secondly, I was at the west Somerset railway today and realised that all the coaches had a matt finish on the roof, but satin on the side. Hopefully this helps you judge your reviews 😊. Cheers, class 92 models.

[@robertlucido3686]

You should look for an N scal3 Flying Scotsman, that engine would look good with those teak coaches

[@terrycharleslewis7565]

Hey Sam I've just moved to N so thanks for a great review! If you're in the market for a new loco, Rails are selling 0-6-0 hunsletts in a range of liveries for £62! Food for thought?? Regards Terry 😅

[@forrestrobin2712]

What they lack is a nice varnish shine. I’d be inclined to mask off the roof and chassis and spray in gloss.

[@hardcorehead6284]

Heyy sam, Märklin just announced a HO class 77 with alot of features, i know you dont review HO, and also not Märklin but i'm very interessed in the difference between a UK manufacturer and a german manufacturer and how it compares to lets say a class 66, great video and love to see your respons

[@sunnygappy9717]

A bit of an idea Review some Japanese N scale models like LNER Azuma or Ffestiniog Railway england

[@cdyvids22]

I was at a toy fair with some members of my model club and they pointed these out at the toy fair, they look really nice, but I'm hoping to track down some maunsell coaches personally Also would you look into peco n scale wagon kits, theyre easy to assemble, they take 5 minutes max and sometimes you dont need glue with certain kits, it would be good for making a rake of 7planks or box vans like i have

[@OlivierGabin]

I want the same in OO, period. Seem Dapol is taking the peas towards Hornby : they have a GWR 2800 in OO, like Hornby had. Dapol has announced a GWR 14xx in OO, while Hornby just reissued their old tat from 40 years old molds bought from Airfix, and we have some N scale offers by Dapol that might be developed in OO someday against Hornby models : their incoming SR BoB class and, maybe, those coaches. Hornby had just a Railroad model in OO of those coaches to offer...

[@davidstrains4910]

If that last statement you have made is basically saying hornby have only done teak coaches in OO gauge as part of the railroad range you are very much mistaken, hornby has actually produced super detailed teak coaches in OO since 2011 from what I can find.

[@OlivierGabin]

@@davidstrains4910 Thanks to point this out, I can't find some for sale. I'm short of LNER coaching stock (and LMS too, but to less extent) and I would be eager to buy some bogie coaches. If Hornby reissues their own, I'll go for them.

[@RHaenJarr]

Feels a bit like both in physical models and virtual ones, no two creators agree on what shade teak coaches should be. Guess it's a good idea to just imagine every coach was stored in different conditions when mixing them into one train

[@caw25sha]

Preserved carriages sometimes have noticeably different colours on separate panels. Not sure whether that's due to restoration using different types of wood, or whether they would have originally looked like that. I believe teak is difficult to get these days so they may use something else.

[@briandesens144]

Awesome video Sam's trains 😊

[@aleopardstail]

used to be N scale locos cost twice what OO would, but coaches were about half or less these days I think the "money" isn't in the materials, or really the tooling, or the production slots - its all design, company costs and shipping, hence stuff not being all that different with the costs. to be honest the Dapol N scale stuff is some of the better priced stuff and usually very nice models the colours being a bit light is likely down to the "scale lightening" effect and yes up close can look odd, ditto that weird way of doing the wood grain, but N is very much "three foot test" stuff. heck some of us have enough trouble seeing them - get yourself some of the old Lima Mk1 to compare too.. and yes the N gauge couplers are $%^&&%$£$%! doddle to pick vehicles up and manually uncouple, royal pain for auto uncoupling (the PECO ones are the best for this) but its very common to have to have a bit of impact to get the sprung ones to couple. if I was still working in N I'd be happy to have a rake of these, they do look a lot nicer than the railroad Hornby OO ones as well (not as nice as the really good ones though). very good review :)

[@StarWarsJay]

Any chance of doing reviews on more recent or expensive locos please?

[@jamesdunloptrains]

Awesome video today Sam might have to get some

[@samgarnett9174]

Sorry it’s taken so long to renew my membership. Haven’t been well so had to take a break.

[@ajohnpeters9801]

D D W... distance does wonders. Works in a bar too (pub) .

[@iamfownd738]

Hi Sam me and my brother are looking to make a Hornby layout and set for the first time could you give us a to or make a video on it I think it would help a lot of your viewers like me thanks

[@TheTransportationFanfromCA]

Sam try reviews an n scale steamer from America like BLIs light mikadi

[@JoseFernandez-cd7ew]

hey Sam! I got a question... is it possible to put NEM couplings on a non-NEM engine?

[@LindseyTate13]

Need more 009 Sam

[@Ianshandle999]

Great video…the maroon coaches look even better I think

[@cirseltoo]

Varnished teak wasn't a uniform colour, as each time the coach was varnished it yellowed, and in between times it faded, to the extent that no two were the same after a while. As a price comparison, Bachmann's new Mark1s are £47.95 rrp and are originally of about the same vintage. Rapido's dynamometer car in N is £99 for preorder....

[@tivednagol9127]

Question: Why not make the wheels out of copper rather than add copper pickups?

[@paulcarroll7767]

Good video Sam :)

[@roberthannigan8118]

I wish you record a video of n scale Thomas and friends models. Please will you do that

[@igorkukovec8719]

More N gauge please. Maybe Fleischmann, Minitrix, Arnold... Thanks.

[@billybobbassman]

Good review Sam, you are right about the dot matrix finish, i never liked it. Dapol do make good coaches, they are all light (even the farish ones) but this never caused an issue for me. N couplings... meh, bain of my playing trains life, this will be a regular occurence in your reviews Sam, different heights, different manufacturers, etc etc, they rarely couple cleanly and just a small defect in your track can cause the train to uncouple. Why this ended up being the industry standard for N, I'll never know, OO got it right early on.

[@Ianshandle999]

Agree, US N switched from rapido to Kadee couplers many many years ago…nor sure why UK did not follow

[@Alextrains502]

Hi Sam will you do a review of the same coaches but in oo gauge

[@DavidSmith-tc3se]

GWR PT on teaks its A SVR Gala weekend

[@alecwaddington7993]

Can you do the super detailed Oo scale hornby teaks ?

[@LondontransporduckL99]

Can you do the dapol London transport 57xx next please sam

[@PaulsChannel1402]

Pls more n scale!❤

[@robertusa1234]

All n scale rolling stock is expensive compared to HO / OO

[@class_31clag]

Hey Sam, by any chance are you going to show more of dapols tat and not show anything else farish? Kinda seems like ya guna just show dapol stuff which many people has said is flawed, kinda makes it look like n gauge is terrible...

[@azuma892]

Sam, how long did you spend building the haunted mansion attraction in Minecraft? Looks like a lot of work has gone into it, not that I understand any! You are a bright lad, sometimes it’s easy to forget you are not only good at reviewing trains and 3D design. I have no interest in video games whatsoever, but for some reason I willingly sat through a video of a British guy giving a tour of his virtual theme park. 😆

[@cirseltoo]

The buffet was £35 when it first came out, and the others were £25.

[@davidsheriff8989]

Thomas the Tank springs to mind.....

[@Jimyjames73]

Nice Carriages 😊🚂🚂🚂

[@GWRNorth_Star33]

I have these!

[@JustinFrazier_360]

That's cool sam

[@alexhayden2303]

Colour is too light for my taste. Is it a true match?

[@caw25sha]

Do a Google image search for some current preserved ones. No, definitely not a true match!

[@Ianshandle999]

And current ones are the same as the ones I got in 2007

[@zacsteamlocomotive1800]

Wow

[@mikeking2539]

No they are not pink ish in real life! The LNER Gresley Teak coaches are my favorite big 4 Era coaches!

[@IttyBittyGamer]

N Gauge is nice but I’d rather stick to my 00 Gauge Stuff

[@Mark.Andrew.Pardoe]

Whato Did you really think LNER coaches wanted to be hauled by a heap of GWR scrap iron?

[@leelishman7137]

Never see any 00 diesels anymore?Certainly not from the 1960s-1980s period

[@RichardKuivila1947]

Does . 'Brake' . mean 'with Loo ' ?

[@sbee9373]

It means that there is a guard's compartment fitted with controls for the brakes, usually with space for bulky luggage too.

[@deborahhancock1369]

get Thomas N scale

[@zippy5131]

The colouring on the teak coaches is known as 'Scumble'. Bizzare I know.

[@Gatherleymodeller.]

I prefer oo gauge tbh

[@Alextrains502]

Cool

[@star86703]

Very nice lner teak n gauge coaches 😊😊

[@dh9033]

N GAUGE please. It's not N scale. Thank you 😊

[@bradsmckay]

Actually it's N SCALE, scale is a ratio of the model size in proportion to its real life counterpart, whereas gauge is the distance between the rails

[@dh9033]

@@bradsmckay We will have to agree to disagree. The 'N' refers to the track GAUGE of Nine (9) millimetres. The SCALE is either 1/148 or 1/160 depending on whether it's British or European stock.

[@brianjacksongreen6691]

Colour looks far to 'PINK' . Compared with photos of real coaches which look quite a dark brown base especially on older stock

[@MayoHosko]

the pink undertone ruins it for me

[@Antluvstrains]

Man does the close-ups disrespect the model a lot.