Surrender To What IS (w/Suzanne Chang)

[@suzanne-chang]

Eeek... Love it! ♡♡♡ Can't thank you enough for everything Zubin. And thanks for all the love and support everyone!

[@ZDoggMD]

Infinite gratitude for you Suzanne ❤️🙏❤️

[@TheMidnightBandit]

Your videos are sobering. Thank you for your inner work!

[@chadweiler5506]

almost half way through, beautiful conversation, andor energy exchange

[@Isaiah.444]

I've been watching you, Suzanne, for a couple of weeks now, and this phase of my journey of discovering your journey has been one of the most allness and nothingness at the same time... I have so much to talk about. I wish I could meet you. That was a great conversation you guys had! 😊

[@Isaiah.444]

I have sooo much to say but trying use human language to define what I can only say is the language of feeling/energy/frequency is damn near impossible.

[@rationalmystic5]

After the big names like adya,Eckhart,Joseph g, etc this lady Suzanne is the purest most authentic "awake" person on KZbin. I feel her more than I hear her. It's like my heart or soul or whatever the it is in me sees itself in her and connects immediately. There is presence in just her sound no words needed. What a privilege to see this video. Thank you both. Deep gratitude.

[@zma6779]

If u have read/heard of Power vs Force, Suzanne is the true definition of power. She speaks so calmly, slowly at times, with long pauses and yet her words are captivating bc they are pure truth

[@rationalmystic5]

​@@frid123yup I was listening to him about a year back. Thanks. Tc.

[@rationalmystic5]

​@@zma6779she has zero pretence. Just pure and real.

[@copyninja8756]

I dont feel that at all

[@bethhayes1]

Mooji is a pretty amazing teacher you might want to check out.

[@rationalmystic5]

Zubin has identified such critical points in this talk and has gone above and beyond his role in trying to maintain the flow of information for the listener and paying good attention to suzanne. Great job sir . The more i watch this the more your skills are seen . Thank you so much.

[@macparker3549]

Well said. Agreed!

[@surreycase]

I've watched this more than twice and it makes no sense and yet it makes perfect sense. Thank you for sharing

[@rgCA_01123]

Less than 14 min in and Suzanne's explanation is absolutely beautiful ❤ The mind chatter. If I can truly learn that's not me, I'll be in a much freer place ... or that's the best way I can describe the feeling it gives me to put that down and just say it is not what is, or isn't. I am fine with or without it.

[@ben_y.]

Drop-dead funny, honest, and enlightening. Some of the best silence ever. My brain is loose!

[@deni0404]

This was “beyond” good!!! Beautiful sharing. Love all these kind of conversations you have. The authenticity, realness, and openness is sooo refreshing and enjoyable. It makes me not feel like I’m crazy or on island all alone. Thank you 🙏 🎉❤

[@kelliedawn9229]

This touched a nerve i feel like i have experienced a partial death years ago but didn't really understand what was happening. So much anger was repressed it was so intense yet there wasn't room for space to be held. Triggering to witness the intense space between your stares also very vulnerable of you both. Thank you both ❤

[@macparker3549]

Agreed. Anger has been and remains a key to freedom here. Even as I thought I was allowing it, I have subtly caved in to the pressure to tame it. Less and less. And the relief, release, clarity and impact are beyond description. All the best to you…

[@tidyblob]

This conversation cracks me wide open ❤❤❤ Infinite gratitude 🙏🙏🙏 and more importantly to see the funny side of Suzanne!!! what a blast!

[@deni0404]

❤️❤️❤️❤️🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏 Haven’t watched yet but two of my most respected and beloved peeps 🎉🙌 suuuuper excited to watch!!

[@Paisan06]

The first five minutes of the sit down with her are pure gold.

[@Paisan06]

It's like the banter of two Zen masters.... to the uninitiated it sounds like bitchiness or meanness but it's love.

[@theart7111]

My realization was very similar I think to this lady's. A lot of years ago, I realized that nothing matters, except unconditional love. And everything that is not love comes from fear. This lady is the first person to say anything even slightly similar to what I understand. Never heard of her , will make sure to look further into who she is.. Good content dude👍

[@dar_jada]

Thank you! Both of you wisecracking with each other is hilarious. Discussing your experience of non duality so helpful.

[@HiluT]

The entire week should have been recorded ❤ I just love you both❤ I wish you didn’t cropped out your wife’s section ❤❤❤ this is a beautiful family ❤

[@TanyaLorenzo-b5y]

"The cave you fear to enter holds the treasure you seek" ~Joseph Campbell

[@timothyammons9011]

Touch nothing but the lamp! 🤭

[@davidhuber7166]

A new/old mythology minus the myth...

[@rationalmystic5]

Was waiting for this since you talked about it with doc Angelo. Love you all . Thank you. Am typing this before I watch the talk. Suzanne needs no introduction to most PPL watching this.

[@Kwillisnyc2HK]

loved this so much

[@branimir9881]

Love this video. Surrendering is so essential. There is one more aspect to the feeling of the raw sensations, which we qualify as fear, anger, shame, anxiety etc. When these sensations arise, it's helpful to be alerted to the story accompanying these sensations. More often than not, these stories are based on deep-seated beliefs, and the sense of self can hide within them. There is a story of "I being ashamed, or fearful etc". Once we fully recognize this is just a thought that we take for true, it becomes very clear that fear, anger, shame, and other emotions are ultimately just beliefs/thoughts. Everything will start to crumble after that. And then the magic happens:) Thank you for sharing this video - it was really enjoyable to watch!

[@Anastasiiia_an]

Oh my God! 😃❤️ this was such a lovely conversation to witness (and I might even say, feeling like being a part of). Thank you, beautiful Beings🙏🏻 expressing the inexpressible and transmitting it even to the viewer of the video. So many things resonated with me and the smiling just kept happening here. 😊

[@Akash_heard]

Honestly, I used to listen to her, but I felt scared. She didn't smile, joke, nothing. Am glad she is laughing and joking. I might listen to her again. I did full stop with Emerson nonduality because I felt I know him forever. Thanks for sharing this... ❤🎉

[@georgeshepherd3381]

This is great! Thanks!

[@solomonherskowitz]

She has incredible dept. I've had some of the most powerful spiritual experiences just listening to her. like a DMT flashback

[@pointlessly.perfect]

ZDogg this has got to be the absolute funniest dharma talk I've ever

[@eisvogel8099]

Suzanne to me is like a tempel where even silence makes questions obsolete. The silence is the answer. So authentic, open, safe. No as if. She just is. Beautiful. Spacious.

[@MsThaithai11]

Wow, just Wow.....thanks Zdog and Suzanne

[@cillamoke]

You’re absolutely on point with the silence, that’s what I’ve noticed with her videos. Very thoughtful.

[@ravenofthewild]

Yes...already been watching Suzanne's journey from over a year ago. Sounds like Angelo knew what he was doing in recommending Suzanne come to your home. I find it interesting hearing you speak of the ”fear”. There has never been any Fear of Death here and I am now 68 and live alone and can only feel excitement about the death of self. I am wondering how much the fear you spoke about is related to fear of death? Feeling the raw energy without resistance totally resonates as someone who has done a lot of energy work with emotion and trauma. It's great this is being talked about. A big part of why I love Suzanne's video's is she speaks about the full experience this has been, more than anyone else I've heard speaking of non-dual awakening. What Im most struck by is how childlike the two of you come across and that makes this even more exciting here. I loved when Suzanne said she's taking your wife you just asked for videos!😅 That's definitely a loosening of personal desire. The experience you all went through together speaks to me about the power of transmission. What an exceptionally valuable experience for all of you.❤🎉 Zubin, do you know about the Buddhist 10 Fetters, a Buddhist process of seeing through self and the 2nd Fetter deals with Doubt.

[@ptanji]

The fetters are described in Angelo’s KZbin channel so I’m guessing Z is familiar. Of course, none of that is necessary for awakening. Z’s wife’s story being a perfect example. Brilliant!

[@smichael061]

I can see why Angelo is now saying, find a female liberated being for a teacher. It's easier to surrender and feel everything because there's the sense that it's all okay around her. There's nothing to fear, it's okay to let everything go. Estupendo!

[@macparker3549]

Lovely! Well said! 💜🔥🫥⭕️🌻

[@ItApproaches]

The egoic layer of gender doesn't mean anything lol.

[@Dippmip]

if they say they no longer exist , then why their gender still matter?

[@davidhuber7166]

Words fall short because yeah words are made up. Under, before and through (before/after words) there is the communion of soul. Arete. Beyond words. Communication of intangible sensation. A song, music a harmony of vibrations you feel yet ... Understand - THEN try to make square peg words fit in non square holes. Words, a tool of tools worshiped by wise fools. Schools out forever ... Soul Jazz. You both performed majestically! Thank you!

[@simpelman]

Oh, yeah, now I remember when I was awakening. Sometimes I only could make gestures with my hands or fingers, instead of speaking. Because it felt impossible to say something, although everything was crystal clear. Everything is beautiful, don't you see it? Like that. But later on, I could speak, albeit it was if my body remembered how to speak. The words came from nowhere, and it felt it was spoken, but by my mouth, not by me.

[@yasminel-hakim4348]

this was absolutely mind blowing. I really enjoyed you both in this conversation. Loved seeing Suzanne here. You’re such lovely and funny guys. 🙏❤️

[@chinchilla_462]

So authentic, so energetically accessible, so grateful for this talk! Thanks plenty, there is a hope that wants to see Suzanne on here again.

[@rauldiez-muro8879]

Beautiful interview... I can feel the pure love!!! Thanks ❤

[@jameslentz4300]

Thanks!

[@ZDoggMD]

Thanks so much James 🙏

[@LunaticAstrology]

Brilliant. Yes. Thank you.

[@hoodedmenace6024]

I love you both. Thank you for sharing.

[@rubyslippers9140]

"It's (the mind) is like a bird tweeting" that really landed :)

[@erenonduality]

❤️🎶 so beautiful 🥰 This appearance here barely watches YT videos but this one was so raw and beautiful, that was enjoying timelessly until the last second of it apparently. ❤🎉🤸‍♀️

[@olia4048]

Your conversation is so simple and so "deep". Thank you both. ♥ Yes, it's perfect as it is.

[@RyzeQueen]

Incredible interview 👏🏽 I’ve been on this journey for 3 years now and I’m somewhat experiencing the illusion of self more often due to practicing nonjudgmental awareness.

[@celiaa2006]

Queen’s Bohemian Rhapsody finally makes sense to me now after listening to this!

[@jamil1418]

suzanne is the real deal for sure !!! love her style of expressing non duality

[@solomonherskowitz]

He's so scared this whole time she's like it's ok and he's like that's soo scary

[@sanjayjattan9547]

Suzanne's silent gaze pierces the false personhood

[@ww9519]

Absolutely beautiful !

[@danielarnold7323]

Suzanne is awsome, I'm so grateful for her

[@user-hl1ct3yh1r]

I’m tired of feeling anxious often. I choose truth.

[@simpelman]

The mind is a very good tool to solve problems. The mind is always looking for problems to solve. Even if there is not a problem. So, one insight is: old feelings, like trauma, envy, anger, all your history, education, beliefs are just thoughts. So not real real. To see this, is a big step. There are people who can play chess in their heads on 10 boards, against themselves. The mind is in overdrive, clocking at 240 Herz, but still nothing is really happening, because it is all just inside the brain. I think babies and animals are always living in bliss. That's why babies don't have memories of their first months, and animals don't remember not much or nothing from their past. They wouldn't even recognize their parents. If all thoughts are seen as just thoughts, all which remains is pure consciousness. So it is possible to experience the world more directly, bypassing the thought process. Because life is not a problem to be solved. So you have to see the worlds without worlds. Labelling, concepts, beliefs, hesitating, fear, carefulness. Just jump in like a suicidal person. That's not easy, because our instinct is to be careful. Never trust the world outside, danger is everywhere, and accidents lure in every corner. So we need a plan. Nobody lives fully, without lack of fear. Nobody wants to die, caused by a lack of preparation and suspicion. So, we need to have trust, trust that the world will take care of itself, and you. Trust in the unknown and surrender to the unknown future. And, amazingly, the world can run itself perfectly. You don't have to steer yourself, you don't have to change the world to live. There is not a free will, because everything happens anyway. But this is just words, theory, concepts, philosophy. Now you have to do it. By letting it happen. It's a total different concept. Forget the urge to do things. Consciousness remains, thought come and go. To see this, is 90% problem solved. Now 5his concept is in reality just a very big obstacle to get awakened. I see reality or the world like this. This is just philosophy/a concept: particles are waves/fields, waves are energy, energy is information, information is consciousness. So all things are made of consciousness, penetrating all and everything. Of course, you yourself are a part of this conscious field. It is not that the universe stops at your door of your skin. You came from the world, and you will dissolve in it. As nothing ever happened. But to do all this, practically, is another ballpark. You have to really feel/experience/see it. AN AHA moment. Satori means : slap in the face in Japanese. It is a sudden insight, awakening when you see it. It is seeing everything in another perspective/way. OK, I am tired now. Hope some of this helps in some way.

[@notearz76]

Looking forward to listening to this episode!

[@rubyslippers9140]

Thanks Zubin and Suzanne :)

[@dipdip2481]

Dynamite…..awesome……incredible…….beautiful……I love this……..Zubin and Suzanne thank you both so much 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻💥✨❤

[@Me_ThatsWho]

I want whatever they're on 😂

[@3r7s]

😅😅

[@dwai963]

meditate

[@HolisticHealthWithHarry]

SOo amazing you guys done this new subscriber ty so much for sharing this with the world

[@13superdude2]

I was laughing a lot in the started when you were shit talking her stare 😂😂 and when she said that she can't keep her eyes open. That was a perfect setup for an asian joke 🎉😂 ahh good stuff

[@selmayoga4721]

Is like zero flying given and all is perfect, I am 42 and just found out I am pregnant, my toddler is 2 and haft . I don't know if baby will stick, and I really want to, children teaches us so much, and all is perfect I am not stressing out because all is perfect 😛I call it the happening, the happening will take care of all 🙏 and is really lovely to listen to both of you, thank you 🙏

[@katiesfarmhouse]

I don't get it. I know it's true, but I don't get it.

[@Mimi-xs7gi]

The lightness of being….love that❗️ 🤔what meal did your wife cooked that Susan loved❓….a bit of a foodie here…lol

[@ZDoggMD]

She cooked a meal using a meal prep service called Gobble which we love! It's was halibut. I reached out to them and they offered us a promo for people who watch the show, check it out here: gobble.com/zdoggmd

[@bernardofitzpatrick5403]

She has a lovely peaceful face

[@Isaiah.444]

I wish we didn't have to miss the part with your wife speaking to Suzanne! Loved it, though.

[@kelvinyu339]

'It gets the hose again'. Silence of the Lambs

[@ZDoggMD]

Yes! I realized that after we finished the interview 🤣

[@Marcel-Kueng]

😂 Just… Wow! Thank you 🙏🏻 ❤

[@Zorba.]

Ahhhhhh....This feels like a warm bath in honey. Sigh .. So much energy in my chest area right now .I want to kiss you both. Thank God you landed in my phone tonight .LOL. Its like I want to leap across everyone's roofs tops and yell.. Yeahhhhhh . Lol. I'm beaming ...You two are pure love on legs. Mwah .🙏🙏🙏 I feel so blown away, yet again, that you arrived in my life just after I discovered Angelo on Sunday.. Spooky shit going on. 😁🙏💕

[@angryherbalgerbil]

No don't "surrender to what is"... Become what things should be! One part moves all parts move!

[@digitalentrepreneurguide]

❤️

[@gumfun2]

"just needed to say goodbye"

[@mrrecluse7002]

How do you know this isn't just chemistry??

[@Sashas-mom]

1:04:38 wow Zubin’s wife 😮what an amazing question she asked because that’s a whole discussion for our loved ones. Wow

[@katherinebaer6798]

What Suzanne seems to intimate is that no one can be really happy without awakening, in that “it is never enough.” However, I do know a number of people who are genuine, happy and at peace with fulfilling lives. They are clearly able to express emotion and be open to emotion from loved ones and others, even strangers. She also states that you can’t attain this openness by force of will and I am having difficulty grasping this concept as many thoughtful, introspective people I know seem to possess this ability to analyze themselves (at least the present “I”) with this openness you both are discussing. I can certainly see that pent-up emotions; anger, resentment, shame, etc. are extremely corrosive and that someone who has had great difficulty in the past with expressing these feelings will have a huge catharsis if allowed to let these feelings all go. I’m just having trouble linking that to a complete abnegation of self. If that is the case, does personality also disappear; the thing that makes life joyful, and at times, yes, miserable, but ultimately interesting, challenging and worth living. I’m rather disquieted by the notion of everyone attaining this state of unbeing, for lack of a better term. Do we really want to live in such a world? Would flat affect be the norm of the human condition? I definitely have to research and read more on this topic as I am rather a novice in this area, although definitely possess an introspective bent. I am not saying you guys are wrong at all. These are just some of my observations.

[@katehiggins9940]

paradoxically, personality is freer with no binding of self

[@matthiasrost1755]

that always feels like i want to meet "her"

[@waterkingdavid]

Deeply resonate yet I offer challenge. If you're really free of fear Suzanne - not just aspiring to be so but really are ' - then speak out against those who give the orders to send soldiers to kill and those masses who either don't care or are afraid to say anything. And no I'm not talking only about Putin, I'm talking about Biden and virtually all in Congress and the Senate. Note my words. I'm saying if you honestly and truly are completely free of all fear. We've gotta say something. No we've gotta scream it so hard their eardrums are shattered. They KNOW as do we all this is utterly insane.

[@stephenvankleeck4801]

“You become more fully human.” Yes. G.I. Gurdjieff called this, “Being human without the quotation marks.” We are moving from “human” to human.

[@TheMidnightBandit]

I asked a question to myself that in hindsight seemed contradictory... "How do I get rid of my ego?" The "I" is as much the ego as the concept of ego itself. It seems like something we are nearing until we feel we desire anything but, then it eludes us. I believe that the wanting, the pursuit of control in any fashion is the egoic drive manifesting in our minds. Is the ego our own? Or is it truly inherited by the fears of society? I'm not sure. I will never be sure, and the need for clarity might be the entire "whole a$$" of suffering...

[@jstephens5077]

Life is The Neverending story

[@j0oi88]

The video is Jeff foster and some guy. The laughing video, big back in ~’11.

[@tibisayhuerta]

7:05, beginning. I love how playful you two are at the beginning! 😁 "And then, I met you"...! 😂😂😂😂 10:18, seemless, like I've always been here. 14:55, I would express, but I don't hold on to it. 18:59, how we met. She's just sitting down there watching unfold... Watching enlighten... That's the silence... She's still triggering you (in a good sense), and you keep sparkling... It's amusing...! 😊❤️ 26:05, you can trust this! 27:02, you become untouched. 27:21, fear doesn't mean anything anymore. 27:27, the central message. 29:37, SEE???!! She's still observing and impressed... 😊 32:38, Wait! Me???!?!?!! So, I am the one holding myself. I'm imprisoned within...! 😮 33:08, you're living on top of fear... 😢

[@Sophiadragoness]

Oh please send me the link. Hello from the Philippines. Just had eye surgery and I can't see. There is fear of being blind. There is something here I feel is for me. Thank you

[@marcusanthony488]

Yeah...yeah...yeah..

[@djimiwreybigsby5263]

I'm meditating and endeavoring to learn grow understand and evolve but I've no clue about what they're feeling I truly want to But I keep hitting the wall idkytf it's so elusive

[@hanskung3278]

Didn't Buddha and St. Augustine say "it's never enough", but they had a answer to that problem.

[@mehenra485]

I don't feel ready yet, but can one even be ready? It just seems like the biggest gamble there is and to the mind that ist not worth it. A part of me recognizes the truth, the others just take him as insane. They want to keep playing their game of better and worse, bigger and smaller, beauty and ugliness. I can't have it both ways, yet I want to. So what now?

[@imransuhail82]

Realizing that the parts seem to function separately is a huge step. Once you see it clearly enough its novelty also goes. The parts of you dont actually exist separately they all exist within the consciousness that you are. You will lose nothing. You will gain nothing. Yet you will get what you are searching for because it is already here. 😇

[@mehenra485]

@@imransuhail82 Thank you very much ☺️

[@BakerStudiosIndy]

Holy Deepak Chopra, Batman! What happened to Zubin? 🤣

[@Kholakogeet84]

I think the language is too rough for a spiritual audience to understand. But what they are trying to say makes sense.

[@unattendedcandle]

I mean I just had no idea what they were talking about for most of the video.

[@sghedhrdh]

“if the mind tries to grab what we’re saying and make a thing out it, that’s disastrous” definitely wasn’t doing that 👀

[@lindsayhaskins2848]

I had a moment, reading Angelo's book where I had a realization or shift in perspective (sort of).. it was lovely and pure..I contemplated while experiencing.. Is it true then, that we are all like threads within the same tapestry (that is the universe). All threads are conscious and expressing and dynamic within themselves but are all really ultimately consciousness itself? This morning when I woke up I have been oscillating between that awareness and my usual separated sense of awareness... I think I still need to connect with another piece of knowing to fully awake.... is there anything that you can see that might help me realize ?? Sincere gratitude for any insight ❤ Lindsay

[@ZDoggMD]

You are in such a good place! That oscillation is normal, simply allow it to happen and notice everything you can. Life is our teacher and it wakes you up, all it takes is willingness and an inevitable letting go of control...❤️

[@lindsayhaskins2848]

@ZDoggMD thank you so so much for everything! For introducing me to this subject, for being willing to be transparent in your path (this is what really helped me connect with even the possibility of "Waking Up" ), and for allowing us all to follow along in your realization and more, and more ❤️💗

[@authenticprague]

❤😭☺

[@issness_god]

Good

[@davidhuber7166]

I needed some verbal lactulose - I too have been aware of my downhill snowball shit show of this iteration ...

[@franek_izerski]

No surrender

[@techguy651]

The more I learn about this, the more it feels like a natural extension of stoicism. Like… Stoicism on Steroids (TM).

[@goych]

It sounds to me more like evolving beyond our current restraints of seeking safety above anything else

[@imlistening1137]

Essence of Don Rickles!

[@caroleugeniagraham8634]

❤😮

[@andreavanda5402]

This conversation was "obtuse". I'm not sure if it was real or just pseudo real.

[@SisterSunnyFreeSpirit]

Isness. Suchness.

[@colleenwilliams1452]

I have trouble with the word NOTHING Is nothing different for everyone. My version of nothing could be totally different to someone else.

[@jamesthomas1244]

No thing -- from which all thing-ness arises, lives, moves and has its being.

[@LeifArneStorset]

Me too! Having followed these people for a while, I believe “nothing” should be interpreted as “no self” and “no fixed identity”.

[@davidhuber7166]

Hey, you did not do this with puppets? Then were were all the strings attached. dznuts! The video - It is more than it is not. Definitively: 🎉x+❤

[@MK7of7of7of7]

Haven't heard any non duality teacher speak of chronic physical pain. Or it just doesn't happen, isn't happening, or can it be totally ignored once one realizes it didn't happen. Not sarcastic question and maniacal laughing won't help as far as a pointer. So just this?

[@nrudy]

I believe it gets the hose again, unless it puts the lotion on its skin.

[@Time364]

What this happened to some but not to all of us?

[@TH-nx9vf]

Amazing that 90% of intellectuals are still going around with a foundation of uncritical materialist fundamentialism / logical positivism. What is it going to take to make a dent in this worldview ? Not even quantum physics made them give up their beliefs, in fact, it made them more entrenched and that was 100 years ago.

[@goych]

A shit load of suffering, but for many it probably just ain’t gonna happen

[@TerryFarrah]

I know seriously!! Hoping this will shift over the next decade.

[@mypants]

Really enjoyed this discussion, thank you for putting these together.