Surron Ultra Bee First Enduro Ride | Better than the Light?

[@standeman32]

Just scooped myself the 23 L.B. It holds up very well. I can say you guys are RIDERS, very impressed with your skills. You guys put almost all US riders to shame with this video. I don't see anybody else on youtube hitting the dirt as hard as you guys. Good stuff, keep shredding 🤙

[@MTO_Brothers]

Thank you so much for your kind words mate! The LB is a solid option, they are different beasts but as far as I’m concerned, I’m not letting my LB go anywhere 😎

[@marcussmith4913]

great video mine is supposed to ship soon... god please I cannot wait.

[@MTO_Brothers]

I feel for you mate, it's gonna arrive soon!

[@msylvestre]

Super vidéo, les angles de caméra sont fous, les talent de pilote sont au rendez-vous, ça me fait rêver d'en avoir une!

[@felixb.59]

quality content guys. video footage and riding skills are on point 👌🏼

[@MTO_Brothers]

Thank you mate! Glad you appreciate it ☺

[@kostasjezuz4846]

Loved the drone shots!

[@theshreditor625]

Great ultra bee video! Look forward to more videos on the ultra with upgrades!

[@clu801]

Great Video boys. The riding is exceptional! You are hauling ass up that rocky trail and my stomach was in knots just watching! Keep it up.. Love your content! 👍

[@SURRONEXPLORE]

Génial la vidéo avec les images au drone 👌 elle a l'air vraiment pas mal cette ultra🐝 et ce spot 🤩🤩🤩

[@MTO_Brothers]

Ahhhh l'Espagne, on va se faire ça après la LX je pense ;)

[@The10thManRules]

The drone video is awesome. Keep doing what you're doing.

[@MTO_Brothers]

Thank you so much for the kind words mate 🙌

[@johnmorrison27]

Brilliant bike, brilliant content 👍👍

[@MTO_Brothers]

Thank you very much John, glad you liked it 🤘

[@offgridwithdiv]

Love mine! I'll be putting out a review soon as well!

[@MTO_Brothers]

Can't wait to see your feedback as well :)

[@gregnono8783]

Vous roulez fort les gars!c'est un beau comparatif une très belle vidéo,superbe image,avec ces terrains rocailleux il faut un sacré level en pilotage👍

[@MTO_Brothers]

Merci Greg! Il y a de tout là bas, du très technique au plus roulant, ça permet de faire de bon tests avec des paysages sympas (et c'est un plaisir pour les pilotes 😝)

[@Damolil90]

Hi mate well rode👊 can you do a list of the mods youve done as im planning to get one custom built thanks

[@MTO_Brothers]

That is still in progress but I’ll make sure to dedicate a video to that

[@fnixx1366]

Amazing content ❤

[@ottokirk2325]

Again, excellent content and great editing Viva la residence....shhhhh

[@konyoffroad]

Super bien ce montage vidéo avec le drone, ça envoie bien aussi ... Elle a l'air vraiment bien cette p'tite moto avec des nouveaux pneu et c'est le 🔥 C'est le spot où il y a que du caillou ou du sable viva espagna 🇪🇸

[@MTO_Brothers]

Cyprien en est super content ! Video avec les pneus qui vont bien arrive bientôt 😝

[@creamtube]

Have taken the Ultra for a quick asfalt test and it felt soooo much better with my 193cm. Didnt feel like i was gonna loop the bike or that it was so small as the Light bee. Really wanna get one....

[@MTO_Brothers]

Yeah id's say that for taller riders that really feel cramped on the Light the Ultra is a perfect match. On the other hand, I (Quentin) am only 170cm and as soon as we fitted the 21/18 I felt less at ease on the more technical trails. What's cool is that there is a lowered seat available and with that, even shorter riders will feel right at home!

[@sophiericci1]

Top video super le pilotage

[@MongrelShark]

Really apreciate the worked LBX vs Ultra bee test. Been debating with my dad about this. I think I was right, for a $15k budget, an ace pilot would probably be better off with the LBX and many mods. The more casual rider might prefer the UB. What about if range or road commute is a factor? which would you chose then? I'm very curious how stock UB range compares with modifed LBX battery and controller.

[@MongrelShark]

Also the drone fottage was awesome. Can really apreciate those fine wheelies you do now. :D

[@MTO_Brothers]

Thank you for the nice words! And sorry to answer this late. Range wise the UB has a more confortable battery. Now with a bigger battery and a controller on the LB, properly geared, the LB will have more range. That being said, you can upgrade the UB too! We'll do a comparison video 👍

[@christo7352]

Nice!, hello from France, what about the range from the ultra bee, is it better than the LBX ? Thanks you.

[@MTO_Brothers]

Bonjour alors 😎 L'autonomie est pas mal d'origine, un bon 45km en enduro, donc un poil mieux que les Light Bee nouvelle génération avec la plus grosse batterie.

[@Cray-CrayClips]

How many kilometers is the battery range for single track riding? Regen on or off?

[@MTO_Brothers]

Stock regen (it's really mellow) with this type of riding you can hit between 45 and 50kms. It's very honorable. We'll dedicate a video later on to range test.

[@jeh1n]

@@MTO_Brothers In what mode were you riding for your 45-50km range estimate?

[@MTO_Brothers]

@@jeh1n There's only one mode for us: sport. We're even going to remove the possibility to switch.

[@jimji2774]

Really good shots. It was just a bit hard to understand your english and also to figure out who was on which bike. Still I was wondering how these bikes would do on technical trail riding and I sure saw that they look extremely capable as what you were riding was seriously knarly. Iwas surprised you actually like the smaller bike in a lot of areas. Thanks for showing how they do in that type of terrain.

[@M3rwin6]

How would a stock ultra do against a 15 kilowatt light b in a Drag race? Surprisingly, I have not seen a video of this. You guys are killing it, thanks!

[@MTO_Brothers]

Thank you mate! Regarding the drag race, unless specific grip conditions (where the Ultra would have a wide rear tyre and the Light could not pass the power due to poor traction), the LB would fly away in no time. More power, less weight, that's it!

[@maximiliennuel]

les images aux drones du pur bonheur. Quelle est votre matériel caméra et drone svp ?

[@MTO_Brothers]

Merci ! 2 caméras GoPro 11 et le Skydio 2 en drone.

[@M3rwin6]

Great stuff I was looking forward to your review of the new ultra! On the light bee, how often do you change your brake pads? Can you use the ultra brake system on the light bee?

[@MTO_Brothers]

Good pads last about 10-15 rides I'd say (no regen). There's always a way to adapt anything haha. But it won't be any more plug and play than other moto brakes…

[@SazanHajredini]

amazing footage!! ending soundtrack, can you tell me the name of the track?

[@MTO_Brothers]

Thank you! The music is called Better, by Anno Domini Beats

[@tianjohan4633]

Rear shock, fork, wheels n' tire and a suspension upgrades and I reckon the Ultra will be a great one. Any aftermarket controller out there for the Ultra?

[@MTO_Brothers]

Totally agree! We're working on it controller side, stay tuned 😉

[@davdavol3138]

Superbe vidéo , au début jme disais c'est dans le 69 🤔...😁 Et grand bravo au drone il a assuré ✌️

[@MTO_Brothers]

Merci ! Pour cette fois on était un peu poil plus au sud, on varie les plaisirs 😝

[@Etienne85]

Bravo pour la régularité de cette chaîne, ça fait environ 2 ans que la suis. Je compte me lancer à mon tour dans l'aventure. Etant donné l'offre actuelle qui s'est étoffée, un conseil à donner pour un futur acquéreur: j'hésite entre une Talaria 3K en promo à 4000€ environ et cette nouvelle UltraBee? Je me demandais si le prix après tous les upgrade (batterie, controlleur, amortisseurs, freinage) n'avoisinerait finalement pas le prix de cette UB? Qu'en est-il de l'expérience dans les chemins avec l'UB, est-elle aussi discrete et passe partout que la LB ? Bonne continuation!

[@MTO_Brothers]

Hello Étienne et merci ! Oui la UB est aussi discrète (niveau sonore). Au niveau de son gabarit elle ressemble plus à une moto donc tu ne peux pas prétendre qu'il s'agit d'un gros vélo 😬 Niveau prix, de base la Ultra reste accessible et tu n'es pas forcement obligé de tout modifier. Elle est très joueuse avec seulement quelques modifications. In fine, ça depend aussi de ton poids et de ta taille. Mon petit gabarit (170cm) fait que je suis naturellement plus à l'aise sur la light.

[@Etienne85]

@@MTO_Brothers Merci du retour. Effectivement je te rejoins sur le facteur encombrement/poids qui n'est plus le même. Ce qui m'a plu avec l'UltraBee c'est de retrouver les sensations vécues en 4T et plus adapté à ma taille 1m80. Mais il se peut que le côté passe partout+facilité transport me fasse pencher vers les modèle TL-3K et TL-4K que je dois essayer très bientôt. Hâte de démarrer en tout cas :)

[@molfr6918]

slt a toi...je regarde toute tes vidéos depuis plusieurs mois...comment a tu fais pour avoir une Ultra?actuellement aucunes importation avant plusieurs mois...

[@MTO_Brothers]

Salut ! Pour l'Ultra on l'a importé directement. Pour l'avoir en concession il va falloir patienter encore un tout petit peu :)

[@DukeFerg]

excellent riding and video!! - How would you compare this to a 15KW light bee?

[@MTO_Brothers]

Power-wise the Ultra is obviously less violent than a 15kW LB. Nevertheless it's nervous at low speeds and despite lacking torque at higher speeds, it has a very good top end. So although it becomes less playful it can definitely follow a powerful LB.

[@ridlaridlidouzou]

@@MTO_Brothers If you could recommend rider like me at 170cm 70kg with stock LB. Should i upgrade to ultra bee or stick with LB and get battery 60v65ah (maybe 72v) and torp 500 at 10-12kw? I like to ride trails not so much jumping high on moto track. Thanks if you read this! 🤙👍✌️

[@MTO_Brothers]

@@ridlaridlidouzou For you size and usage, you'd better go with the Light Bee. It's playful and you'll feel more confident on it as it's lighter. Also get a 72V over a 60V, performs better in every regard.

[@zerocardinal]

Quelqu'un aurait-il des infos sur l'arrivée de L'Ultra bee en Europe? J'ai regardé pour la faire venir de chine, mais ils n'ont pas la paperasse pour la faire immatriculer.

[@MTO_Brothers]

Malheureusement je ne suis pas revendeur donc je ne sais pas trop. Je pense qu'en septembre on va commencer à vraiment les voir arriver

[@Ron-don]

Good video who’s piloting the drone or is it the drone itself 😂 adds a great perspective for the viewer

[@MTO_Brothers]

Thanks! Yep, autonomous drone. It was a sound investment as it allows to get a bird’s eye view and a better idea of the terrain.

[@Ron-don]

@@MTO_Brothers what drone is it

[@Ron-don]

I have a maverick but the tracking is terrible

[@MTO_Brothers]

@@Ron-don it’s the Skydio. Amazing drone

[@RidingOnEggshells]

Yeah it's such a good drone. I killed mine two days ago :(

[@jowill.youtube]

Trop bien le test! Hâte de la tester! mais je pense qu'on sera globalement d'accord avec vos arguments ;)

[@MTO_Brothers]

Je pense que oui, et encore plus pour un usage circuit pour vous !

[@sylvieb1448]

😍

[@cyrillelemaire2847]

Incroyable 😂

[@ottokirk2325]

Seems like the weight should be the limit, otherwise you get a swine like the SB. Oui no? So lighter suspension components, add some batteries and bigger front tire. Maybe will remain original weight. Your thoughts?

[@MTO_Brothers]

Not an expert (yet) in moto suspensions. We’ll probably have a look at that at some point. We removed about 3kg already when preparing it. Weight increase with the 21/18 didn’t felt that much while riding (that’s for the next video 😝)

[@gegedelespecier9778]

@Quentin, On dirait que Cyprien a trop fait la fête la veille ou alors les 20kls supplémentaires c'est la sanction , je dirais que tu roules trop vite avec ton missile bleu 😂

[@MTO_Brothers]

hahaha, pour sa défense on avait fait la route une partie de la nuit donc il était pas à son maximum 😝 Après clairement, la Light est avantagée dans certains passages (et j'ai beaucoup plus de puissance que lui pour le moment). En revanche dans les sections cassantes, l'inertie plus importante et les grosses suspensions font une énorme différence !

[@gegedelespecier9778]

@@MTO_Brothers oui forcément avec un empattement plus grand et un peu plus de débattement on doit moins se faire secouer quand ça casse un peu

[@bymannan]

What drone is this?

[@MTO_Brothers]

Skydio 2

[@jonathanphilisot8086]

Niveau autonomie elle donne quoi?

[@MTO_Brothers]

On fait 40/45km avec, mais ça va faire l'objet d'une prochaine vidéo où on teste méthodiquement.

[@jonathanphilisot8086]

@@MTO_Brothers en max avec la light bee en roulant à bloc vous faites CB de kms?

[@MTO_Brothers]

@@jonathanphilisot8086 ça dépend la batterie qu'on met dedans 😬

[@ulukini9183]

Only thing I don't like is how there's no room to fit a giant aftermarket battery with the full seat on the ultra bee.

[@MTO_Brothers]

Working on it!

[@evltwin984]

Ebmx australia, already do a x-9000 controller and 72v 73ah battery, that fits without sticking out the top. Theyre claiming 25 to 35kw from this combo. With 21"/19" or 18" wheels with decent tires, and that sort of power, this will be a beast. Im lovn mine even with stock power, mite just buy the x9000 controller & run stock battery for a while, ebmx claim 17kw like this. Hope this helps

[@MTO_Brothers]

@@evltwin984 It sure will help! Can't wait to try it out with increased power 🚀

[@speedbird737]

you've clearly not heard of the storm bee lol

[@Ron-don]

It’s too heavy

[@dirtrider77at]

Storm Bee .....like KTM Freeride E ....way toooo heavy ..... ..... light bee is much more like a MTB .... maybe the U Bee is what we all are looking for ????

[@MTO_Brothers]

You’ve clearly not rode the Storm. It’s closer to an ADV bike to an enduro bike (weight wise).

[@MTO_Brothers]

@@dirtrider77at indeed! It has the moto brakes and suspensions, 85kg without rotating mass and is ready for power tuning 🔥

[@MTO_Brothers]

@@dirtrider77at indeed! It has the moto brakes and suspensions, 85kg without rotating mass and is ready for power tuning 🔥

[@tigerrider6711]

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