SURVIVING MARS | The Martian Express Changes the Early Game

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@PartyElite 2 жыл бұрын

If you want to learn more or grab The Martian Express for yourself, get your ticket to ride here - rebrand.ly/PartyElite ! I really like the added mobility early on in the game - it immediately made me change my approach without worrying too much about distances, and I think it's a pretty clever change to bring that 'shuttle' functionality in sooner, and in a more affordable fashion. I'd love to know your thoughts too, and if you have any questions, ask away!

@Bateluer 2 жыл бұрын

Glad we're seeing content for SM still, though I wish we'd get some more full featured, better planned expansions. Beyond and Below wasn't well thought out.

@TheNzFox 2 жыл бұрын

its because paradox handed over development to Abstraction Games and they (at lest so far) are not as good as the original team, Haemimont Games.

@qwe5qwe566 2 жыл бұрын

@@TheNzFox paradox clearly wants more DLCs as that is their trademark, sadly this looks good at first but it is really not worth the DLC price and the drawbacks are huge. They clearly forced it into game without much thinking.

@Vaquedoso Жыл бұрын

I agree! Paradox should really give Surviving Mars the love it deserves!

@Bateluer Жыл бұрын

@@Vaquedoso That was the last, I think though. SM hasn't gotten anything since. Its either 'Finished' or 'Abandoned', depending on your POV.

@Stukov961 2 жыл бұрын

Really wish there were more upgrades to make trains, with sufficient time and investment, a fully viable or even superior option to shuttles. Bridges for tracks, an upgrade that let you put tracks on slopes, passthrough stations that are dedicated to either passengers or cargo but can't handle both. Trains with more than two cars that require higher tier stations. Passenger station that accepts the dome passage connection so colonists don't have to go outside. There's endless things you could do. Hoping mods pick up the slack.

@the11382 2 жыл бұрын

This DLC seems badly designed. Going to wait for the right mods first, otherwise no point. Having a disaster break the entire train instead of only those going to it sounds horrible.

@jackochainsaw 2 жыл бұрын

I would agree. As great as trains are, they have some major shortcomings. Not being able to go up or down banks is stupid. If this was a reality in Switzerland, they'd be screwed. Trains with more cars for sure. Passengers being able to daisy chain stations on a route. An emergency shuttle system on the train that fires the passengers back to the nearest working dome.

@OGSnoberry 2 жыл бұрын

I get that they're going for a somewhat futuristic yet slim and utilitarian design for the trains, but honestly the design and implementation is really dumb and bad. There's a reason the design for train rails now hasn't changed much since their inception. They work, and they work well. Monorails would have made more sense in this aspect, I think, if they wanted that 'futuristic but slim and utilitarian design' but even then Monorails are a bad technology. The current design, with the train somehow hanging off the side of the track, is completely unrealistic. Beyond the obvious amount of stress and carrying capacity limitations put in place by such a method of connecting train to rail, it provides literally zero way to 'switch' tracks. The track cannot diverge, ever. It would be impossible.

@kirby702 2 жыл бұрын

Actually it would be very possible for the track to diverge. It simply diverges vertically a few feet. Which it can obviously do because it is elevated. To picture it in your head, imagine a regular train on top of a regular track with a Y diversion. Now turn it 90 degrees in your head. Same thing.

@kaiserslavaniaashur1623 2 жыл бұрын

And living on mars/transforming it is?

@planefan082 Жыл бұрын

@@kaiserslavaniaashur1623 Yeah, actually

@Etheral101 2 жыл бұрын

Makes sense that the train stops as its the track that powers the train and a broken track breaks the circuit of current.

@TheKeule33 2 жыл бұрын

Right. Good thing the passenger Carts have reserve battery power to not get stuck an suffocate. Oh wait, that must ne unrealistic

@thomasprislacjr.4063 Жыл бұрын

Why wouldn't you build tracks over concrete on the ground? You could create bypass lines that way abd the concrete would mitigate dust.

@keanuortiz3766 2 жыл бұрын

If they made the DLCs actually affordable this would've been great

@garethmartin6522 2 жыл бұрын

Looks good, always thought trains should be in Mars games, they are such a good solution. For which reason they've been in media, both Total Recall and Babylon 5 had them IIRC.

@PartyElite 2 жыл бұрын

I'm glad I'm not the only one who's mind goes to Total Recall immediately!

@nal2us2 Жыл бұрын

Question: Can I add the Martian Express addon to an existing Saved Game? I ask as I do not see the Station listed in a saved game but I DO SEE IT listed in a new game. Please advise ASAP. Thank you

@nal2us2 Жыл бұрын

At this point, its academic. I purchased the Below and Beyond and Green planet addons and started over.

@Torquemadia 2 жыл бұрын

But does it fix "Below and Beyond", a DLC so bad it practically ruined the base game.

@jackochainsaw 2 жыл бұрын

You can have trains in the underground. Whether it fixed the DLC is another matter.

@paradoxinteractive 2 жыл бұрын

That's a mighty fine looking train you've got there!

@spacesabre7826 2 жыл бұрын

Keep up the great work DEVs👍👍😁 I just recently bought your new bundle and cant wait to try it😁 Will u guys be eventually adding a PS5 Upgrade at all?

@simonemieli3437 2 жыл бұрын

You've already ruined your reputation by taking Silva content as priced DLC, then ruined the game code with Below and Beyond and still you are scratching money with pointless and bad deployed mods believing you are adding content to the game. Do you have a limit on how bad you can be?

@alpha.7637 6 ай бұрын

I find it extremely difficult to build trains without it being detrimental to my whole colony. I must rethink how i space everything. Its an extremely hard learning curve and may have to concede i cant build a functioning train-transport platform. Its sad. I want to be better but dont have the correct thought process.

@sgpros8084 2 жыл бұрын

Hmm, I'd rather invest in expensive shuttles for colonist transportation since they are more reliable. I'd take those fuel and polymer costs over train suicides any day. However, I can see an automatic concrete/metal extraction area with no colonists constantly pumping out resources while the train can be set to resource only and maintaining a supply line. (Automatic rare metal extractor from the DLCs installed in a remote mining location, train sets up supply chain back to main colony)

@malachiashley528 2 жыл бұрын

Tell the devs this video made me buy the DLC after the steam reviews turned me away.

@nevermindmeijustinjectedaw9988 Жыл бұрын

nice! i thought paradox forgot about the game when they released those asteroid mining and green planet dlc, as those seemed like super end game types of content. this actually is a big change in the game, making the early to mid game WAAAAY more dynamic! now i really wanna try it out again, especially since i missed the last dlc with digging that said, all on its own it still seems a bit bare bones to me, far from a triple a game. it's like a mid tier single player strategy game and that isnt exactly high praise. i wanna love this game and play it all the time, i really do, but especially growing trees on mars was just soul crushingly slow, but really, most aspects of that dlc were. in a way i agree with some og players who said that only the original, unpolished game was really about survival...

@gabriellegare6181 Жыл бұрын

I wonder if a mod for a train tunnel would be viable? Any modder interested are free to use the idea.

@ChristianGoin 2 жыл бұрын

I had commented on one of the paradox videos a while ago about this kind of thing, the transit system. though I though it would be cool if it were a spire that connected things, kind of bummed that isn't a thing

@adriaancoetzee1841 2 жыл бұрын

Really liked the game, I played on Playstation but stopped because I can only build 10 domes. Because I was stuck on that, I just uninstalled and said screw it, no dlc's for me.

@Charles_Anthony 2 жыл бұрын

You can only build 10 domes on the Ps4???

@adriaancoetzee1841 2 жыл бұрын

@@Charles_Anthony not sure if they updated it, but I put hours into the game just to have to google why the dome icon is greyed out

@Charles_Anthony 2 жыл бұрын

@@adriaancoetzee1841 : I'd imagine that they must've otherwise how could you platinum the game? Isn't one of the trophies "have 1,000 colonists" or am I confusing it with some other goal?

@chadcowman6293 2 жыл бұрын

so I bought the game but does the seasonpass include everything that they've released afterwards?

@PartyElite 2 жыл бұрын

The Season Pass includes quite a few of the earlier pieces of DLC, but they've since released a fair bit more that goes beyond the scope of that pass!

@chadcowman6293 2 жыл бұрын

@@PartyElite ugh paradox. I just spend like $100 on expansion alone for stellaris

@mondkalb9813 2 жыл бұрын

Only a few: Space Race, Green Planet, Project Laika, Colony Design Set, Marsvision Song Contest

@TauVids 2 жыл бұрын

i thought there was a bunch of trainwrecks with the last DLC that were still being cleaned up. did all that stuff get resolved? the player feedback was so abysmal that i didnt even attempt to play. now another new one?

@AaronPoeze 2 жыл бұрын

I am nervous about it. I enjoyed the game very much until I bought the below and beyond dlc but it was putting holes in my upper areas breaking the game completely. I got it refunded but wary of more big issues.

@Sebastian-hg3xc 2 жыл бұрын

Did it also improve their UX? Because I recently tried to play this game and the map controls were so terrible I couldn't finish the tutorial.

@nachimowit 2 жыл бұрын

Really?? Paid DLC for ( in my opinion ) just a bad designed train? ...OH and more micromanaging??? GREAT!!! Paradox is going the EA way hard, with the lazy paid DLC.

@simonemieli3437 2 жыл бұрын

Surviving Mars WAS one of the best survival/management game ever. The good development of Surviving Mars ended in the same exact moment Paradox stole the Silva mods and transferred into a pay to install DLC, Shame. Also the game was already a finished game with Green Planet and all the mod community. No one ever needed all this very bad made overpriced DLCs that also broken the original game, no matter if bought/installed or not, Shame; Speaking about Below and Beyond, a very bad developed, conceptually pointless and not needed, as well as overpriced, DLC that affected the code of the original game too, a game that was already what the playerbase was expecting. Speaking about this DLC, it was not needed (you do not expand far away unless planned), it is a bad idea (an early technology that requires settlement to be useful?), is bad designed (only works on flat terrain no matter is a monorail and cannot use tunnels) and bad deployed in the game code (litterally requires more micromanagement that is required to move goods via drone relay. It is essentially broken and also reduces the very essence of the game; the strive for expansion, by adding initial content that no one really want to use. Also it should be a late technology with limitations in terms of maintenance (scrubbing), power management and definitely way more vulnerable to mars environmental disaster. Note: there is a FREE mod that makes you do Tunnels with the same exact functionalities of this very overpriced DLC., but works perfectly Kind regards

@TheHunter2 2 жыл бұрын

for you wondering if you should get it, DON'T! This is half ass baked expansion and the way the trains work are stupid as hell. The logistic control of resources and its movement between stations is done in the most stupid way that will actually get your colony in trouble if you rely on it, forcing you to micromanage it every time you need a specific resource to go from one place to another. You can't build several stations in the same track. Only 1-1 . You can't connect a track to another one already built. If you want let's say Dome A to have tracks going to dome B and C, you can't just build one station in each and connect them, you'll need to build Station A -> toC, Station A->toB, Station A->toC, stationB->toA, stationB-> toC, stationC->toB , a total of SIX STATIONS instead of 3. Scale that for a large colony and you'll have a picture. The construction of it is even worse, you can't do slopes, you can't build it to go through mountains or underground, so at some point with the amount of stations you'll need to have to connect places, it will become impossible to actually find a path way between 2 points. I would rather pay triple of the price in this expansion if done correctly then this cheap price for this cheap piece of illogical code