Survivor Players Who Tanked at the Merge

[@giovanniorellana2200]

"Drea dropped Romeo harder than Bruce name dropped Kane!" 😂

[@XanderMatthews-nv9zf]

Poor Sherri man, all that work to keep Shamar only for him to be evacuated for his hand and eye injury She lost Julia and Laura right before the merge and got swapped with the 2 players she wanted out the most in Reynold and Eddie It is a damn miracle she got swapped to the winning tribe, I don’t think she ever had a good chance of winning with her alliance options

[@XanderMatthews-nv9zf]

If you don’t know what I mean, she was the target of Corinne and the boys at the merge, had Phillip as an ally for literally 2 rounds Then Phillip gets idoled out foiling Sherri’s plan to take out the 3 Amigos, she bounces back and latches herself onto Cochran and Dawn, one of which she could probably beat

[@warrensmitchell]

She made her tribe weaker by targeting the "cool table" and protecting weak, cancerous members, and then she gravitated towards the faves after she gave them the stranglehold. Sherri was playing to lose, and anyone is a fool to think her game was any good, including herself.

[@nathanboyer7739]

Sherri should have played for loyalty and just held out, for the miracle that is the tribal switch-up/swap. She likely would have re-grouped with her loyals and they could have done damage at the merge. But I understand the need to keep the strong because everybody wants to make merge!

[@devondonato4609]

@@warrensmitchellwrong. She would’ve had the numbers had Shamar not get sand in his eyes and kept Laura. The cool kids played actively bad and were a four tight majority, that’s their fault

[@ashen_roses]

​@@warrensmitchell"if you do not think how I do you're stupid, as only I have the O B J E C T I V E truth that you lessers lack. 🤓"

[@oziyard136]

Was expecting Tasha in Cambodia to be on this list

[@PintheDog]

She absolutely personified the title of this video.

[@ashp4613]

im shocked that Q wasn't on this list due to him being in the majority pre merge and had Bhanu, Kenzie, and Tiff working (or wanting to work) with Q, turned into him wanting to quit, becoming a smokescreen for multiple tribals, and going home with an idol

[@Quetzal00358]

Big mistake

[@mulch144]

Romeo would be an interesting returnee. And he gave a really good "I know I'm going to lose" etc speech.

[@IdoledOut]

Seems fairly unlikely but I'd LOVE a Romeo return. Wasn't a huge fan of him on Ika, but by the end of 42 he was one of my faves - and that says a lot because that cast is absolutely stacked.

[@ephraim_]

I'd be down for a Romeo return, but bro is already stacked as is. The million dollars would just be a tax write off for him 😭

[@prismaticrift6351]

So is Joe gonna be on here? Three times? 😭😭

[@Julian-lz5pd]

That would require him having any sort of social or strategic chops

[@XanderMatthews-nv9zf]

Hard to say -he had a 3 person alliance on his first season and barely scraped by over Joaquin to make the merge at all -2nd season, Savage and Jeremy see the benefits of keeping him in the game, but he’s also the backup target at final 9, and needed to win immunity every round to get to that point before being eliminated near unanimously -then on Kama, he was always on the bottom with the only benefit being that Aubry would likely go before him, he makes it to the merge on a winning streak and then instantly gets blindsided after not flipping to Lesu(Lauren, David, Wardog, & Kelley) with Aurora and maybe could’ve flipped Julie or Devens if he’d recognized his poor positioning You can’t really flame out if you were never on fire in the first place

[@prismaticrift6351]

Good point 😭

[@NYChica23]

He was never in control to begin with, so nope. Actually, I'm surprised Ozzy isn't here for his Micronesia game, because he did have a decent level of control pre-merge, and that went south when Eliza outed him as having the idol

[@latebloomerabroad]

You're right, I hadn't realized that before. He really never did anything post-merge; not that he did that much strategizing pre-merge either, to be fair. Why did we think he was such a good player?

[@SmoothCriminal12]

You know what would've helped Denise? Not blowing her second idol on Jeremy at that same Sandra tribal. If she saves it, Sarah gets adavtaged out of the game at 5.

[@XanderMatthews-nv9zf]

Assuming she’d be able to hold it to that point, she was the backup target at final 9 and I doubt it would have last until final 6

[@aperson22222]

I’ve thought that too. In a way it would have been poetic justice for Sarah to be eliminated at that point in that way.

[@roger_towny_jr]

That's REALLY easy to say in hindsight!

[@yellercat500cat7]

It's likely she plays it at 6 considering Tony and Ben played there's and Natalie's immune. If Sarah and Michelle tie at the revote, Denise would be the only one who could go. Though. I still think it wasn't smart of them to keep both Sarah and Tony till final 4 with Ben at F5 being the best at firemaking but stands no chance at winning.

[@roger_towny_jr]

The fact that some of you think she is a bad player cause she didn't hold the idol she found on day 4 allllllllll the way till day 36 at the exact moment she needed to, and not even playing it on the tribal her vote was stolen in the merge...like seriously, what's your deal. Did we NOT just watch a season where five, count them, FIVE people held onto Idols thinking they were safe only to go home with them in their pockets? At least she freakin played hers! There's realistic expectations, then there's THIS ridiculous BS!

[@JamesMeyer2]

I remember that Sherri said that Shamar was going to be her Philip WHEN PHILIP WAS ON THAT SEASON.

[@lexitrask]

Ok thank you for bringing up about Brenda making Dawn take out her teeth. That was so unnecessary and petty. And then probably my least favorite Jeff moment making DAWN apologize afterwards to Brenda for voting her out after getting her teeth back. Yeesh!

[@MikeGlasses]

Top 10 pieces of furniture in Survivor history in no particular order, the Panama Outhouse Leif’s chest, The allstars swing, Cagayan’s merge bed (sleeping shelter), Tonys ladder, Original’s Fiji’s coffee press, Gamer Changers coffee press, anything Wendell made, the African Bush circling the camp from Season3, lastly Ruperts death hole from Allstars, dude really was the best Shelter builder

[@aperson22222]

You’re defining the word furniture rather loosely. 🤔

[@MikeGlasses]

@@aperson22222 make your own top10 then, honestly i’d like to hear other peoples ideas or anything i missed

[@colepierce4079]

How about the Vanuatu hammock?

[@charlieradant]

We have JT and Stephen at home made me laugh more than it should

[@LivTheSlayer]

"what about republican cochran" caught me off guard lol

[@freddytang2128]

What’s the joke here? Did Ryan become a republican politician or something

[@scottp1001]

@@freddytang2128 I thought that was Nick not Ryan.

[@lu-ph6wg]

I would totally add Q from 46 to this list. He had a few moments that were pretty out there pre-merge, but overall it seemed like he was a good player, he was making things go his way, and he had a great set up going into the merge with his Yanu alliance + the six alliance. And then after he attempted to quit it was all over ! Totally blew up his game permanently.

[@narayanan3287]

Regency bias

[@brokenpikachu9491]

Say what you want about Sherri, but one of my favorite FTC moments will always be when she yells at Erik when he tries to talk trash about her gameplay. Never fails to make me laugh

[@MisterHand76]

I don’t know about everyone else but I would love to see another video talking about this genre of players

[@primalmagikarp269]

would you ever do a video on returning player glow-ups, like players who played way better on their second go-round? the inverse could be fun too

[@NYChica23]

Parvati and Rob come to mind right away for that one

[@Tvkcqddd]

Honestly if I was cast in a FvF season and I saw Cochran, Brandon Hantz, Phillip and Dawn walk in, I probably would’ve given up like Sherri lol

[@aperson22222]

At some points she seemed to be the only “fan” who recognized the “favorites.” 😅

[@PingPongMan3377]

Here’s an idea, what about players who were good for most of the game but fell apart at the endgame (Ami, Ken, Lauren/Victoria from EoE).

[@NYChica23]

Spencer is another one, because I felt he played decently well in Cambodia up until the final 4 tribal happened, and that speech basically torpedoed any shot he had at winning the game

[@CheeryCherry3987]

Sherri is done with you so you can go sit down 😂

[@jarretthennig7768]

People really crap on Sherri's game too much. Fans were down 8 to 4 at the merge and 2 of those fans were her enemies. She would have easily been voted out if she had flipped to help Eddy, Reynold, and Malcolm. She just did a really poor job of justifying her game at FTC. Her performance was worse than Amanda Kimmel!

[@TheMeanderingduck6]

I hate to say it, but I'd probably throw Boston Rob in Marquesas on this list. Dude was solid on Maraamu pre-swap and then even in control on Rotu post-swap and then immediately fell apart and was booted at merge.

[@johndebono1870]

You might need to rewatch Marquesas, Boston Rob was lucky that John overplayed his hand with the Gabriel vote. Given that we never had a non-pagonging at the point Boston Rob was pretty terrible in Marquesas.

[@dbarller]

@@johndebono1870well that’s a stretch

[@burnout713]

Absolutely.

[@johndebono1870]

@@dbarller He lost immunity challenge in his boot episode because he wanted to splash John. That alone is worth calling his game the first time around awful.

[@um773]

I agree. He ran Maraamu so well, and was in a great spot in post-swap Rotu. But he was so overly aggressive in his gameplay and lacked the social chops to gel with the cast once the merge came he shot himself in the foot.

[@zacharywiseman7276]

Normally the person in the thumbnail usually is second in the list to keep first place as surprise but Sherri is such the poster child for post merge flameouts that no else could go there. Even though most people would agree the Karla, Romeo, and Ryan would 100% belong on this list.

[@mmicb0b]

I wouldn't put Denise on here because she didn't really have a lot of power to begin with in WaW

[@esinger23]

Great video Luke!

[@lightningmonkey706]

Didn't even need to look at the thumbnail, just knew who number 1 was

[@coherentramblings7326]

It would have been really easy to just pick people like Andrew Savage or Jeff Varner whose games ended just because they came into the merge against a stronger alliance, so I’m glad you kept it to people who showed an actual decline in gameplay quality. There are three players I thought of who could also make this list. Though I don’t think any of them are better contenders than your five. *Abi (Cambodia)* In the premerge, she was more of a force of nature than a player. Everyone wanted to rally around her, and anyone who annoyed her was living on borrowed time. In the merge, she was on the bottom as soon as Kass left, and while she did vote in the right a few times, she was just going along with others’ plans and not dictating things like she was before. *Jay (MvGX)* He was in the majority for both of the premerge tribals he attended. While voting out Michaela is a criticized move, it was undoubtedly his move. At the merge, his association with Taylor put him on the bottom, and while he was picked up by Chris, Brett, and Sunday, that didn’t matter as they were put in the minority soon after. *Michele (WaW)* While her post merge gameplay wasn’t bad, it pales in comparison to her premerge gameplay. She took over her original tribe by blindsiding Ethan (the best move of the season except for Tony taking out Sophie IMO) and she survived the swap despite being the odd woman out against a seemingly unbreakable trio. At the merge, she was put on the outs with Wendell’s elimination, and while she was still in the loop for most of the votes after this, she was just going with the flow and couldn’t get a real foothold until Natalie reentered the game, and at that point, she was able to steal any win equity Michele had.

[@yellercat500cat7]

Abi and Jay I 100% agree with. Not really with Michele though. I think while both her and Nick were put in terrible spots after the Wendell vote but both played really solid social games at the merge. The problem is that the big alliance had 6 people, 3 of which made the final 5, and Sophie, who rightfully earned her Decoy winner's edit. Not to mention Kim, Jeremy, and Tyson, and at the time Denise, were all more interesting characters than her and Nick at that point. I honestly think besides being on the bottom she really didn't do much wrong considering her UTR status meant she stays hidden when the big threats start shooting each other. I do think it does hurt her a little since Nick was put in the same position and weaved his way to the power position, but that's hardly a major thing considering he was considered a bigger threat than her despite 1 challenge win being the only major difference between the two's game. As for the Natalie statement, I honestly don't know why people claim Natalie took or had any winner's edit at all. I understand on a 1st watch why that might be, Chris did the same thing 2 seasons ago. But considering she really didn't target the 2 biggest threats until f4, it's safe to say she didn't have a shot of winning. I'd argue Michele had quite a bit more winner equity than Natalie given her social game and her challenge wins in places she needed too. The only reason she had 0 votes is because people were afraid Natalie would win over Tony if they voted her, which we can all agree would have been a big misplay especially on a season like WAW. Her only real mistake is not trying to convince Natalie to go after Sarah or Tony at 6 and 5 instead of Ben. Ben wasn't winning, Denise has a move, but was checked out of the game, and Natalie had less actually game moves and game time on the island than Chris did in 38, whom people give more crap to than Natalie btw for no real reason. (Last part unrelated IK but it just bugs me.) While I think she's one of the bigger names people could bring into this topic, I feel like there's still plenty of others who had bigger downfalls than her just not big names of made FTC.

[@ThorHC11]

@@yellercat500cat7 I think OP's point about Michele makes sense, but I agree that she's far less likely to crack the T5 than Abi and Jay.

[@yellercat500cat7]

@@ThorHC11 I mean yeah, normally falling to the bottom early merge, even if you make final 3, normally means your game is done no matter how good your premerge was, just look at Romeo in 42. However, she still made moves when needed to and while yes it only happens because Tony has the idea, the Sophie blindside doesn't happen without her help. The only thing I really disagree with is Natalie taking any win equity she had, which couldn't be further from the truth. As opposed to Jay and Abi, Michele isn't likely to be on this list, but she did have some level of fall off gameplay wise.

[@EzraDair]

Do they have to reach ftc cause I know many players who had peak pre merge games and tanked horribly post merge

[@NYChica23]

Karla and Denise didn't reach FTC on the seasons mentioned, so nope

[@aperson22222]

7:45 I know, right???

[@thenic3stguy]

At least Ryan had a great chance of winning if it weren't for the surprise firemaking challenge

[@lafingscarecrow]

against who though? devon was the only vote he got. without devon, ryan would've gotten zero votes. because as luke put it accurately, ryan was chrissy's minion pretty much the majority of the game. there's no way he would've beat chrissy, and devon played a much more strategic game as well. i'm honestly curious how you think ryan had even a sliver of a chance to win

[@thenic3stguy]

@@lafingscarecrow joe mena says in interviews post season that he would vote for Ryan, and just later changed his tune after the reception of the season. Desi and Cole despised chrissy, Lauren doesn't respect her, JP, who were apparently her minion, doesn't even vote for her when he had the chance, Ben adored Ryan. That jury would never give Chrissy the title, it's fairly obvious. Now i'm the one honestly curious of how you think she get the votes to win in a final three not against JP and Cole

[@thenic3stguy]

about Ryan vs Devon, I have no idea. Devon's game was far better, and I wish he wins easily, but also his game was much in the shadows, and apparently Ryan's social game was strong. it's a shame we will never know.

[@NYChica23]

@@lafingscarecrow He actually had a shot of beating Devon depending on FTC performance, because a lot of the jury has confirmed that they were torn between the two, with Ben even saying that his vote likely comes down to who argues their case better out of Devon and Ryan, and we can eliminate Chrissy from this discussion, because her jury management, or lack thereof in this case, pretty much guaranteed she was never winning FTC even if forced fire hadn't suddenly been introduced

[@lafingscarecrow]

@@NYChica23 i still believe devon would've had a better argument than ryan, especially if he explained the dynamics of his social and strategic game. devon was calling the shots on many big moves in the game. moves which made ben a target and not him. devon could've made the case that he used ben as shield to help him take out the bigger threats in the game. ryan on the other hand, the only strategic game he had was getting chrissy on his side and letting her pretty much take control the whole way through

[@latebloomerabroad]

I couldn't believe that Sherri was so adamant at the final tribal council that she'd done all this strategizing post-merge. I think she really thought that if someone came to her with a plan, then it was her plan! Hard to believe she couldn't see she was being dragged along because everyone knew she'd get zero votes.

[@ci_blanch5407]

Will Sims is another who I think fits the theme of this video.

[@nicholasjessup6788]

I don’t know about that. He wasn’t exactly controlling the vote any tribe he was on, and he was a target at two of the three tribals he attended due to his weak challenge abilities. He was likeable, I guess, but I don’t exactly think his pre merge game was good. It just got worse in the merge after he flips out on Shirin. He started out as a live fish and then evolved into dead fish.

[@JSDSandiego]

@@nicholasjessup6788 agree. He never had winner potential.

[@XanderMatthews-nv9zf]

Will caught votes at 2/3 premerge tribals(Max and Nina) and was visibly the person most on the outs on original no collar You can’t flame out if there was never a spark 🔥

[@aaronbentley6373]

Another one who wasn’t necessarily bad at the merge but far less impressive was TAJ (Tocantins). In the pre merge she was edited as being in the most control and was like the next Cirie. But after the merge she wasn’t shown much and was just an ally of JT and Stephen (and then eventually blindsided by them).

[@tmm4195]

Cochran comes to mind even though he didn’t have a lot of agency premerge. At the merge he betrayed his tribe and went with the cult alliance which immediately burnt 5 people and cemented him as either a final 3 goat or 7th place finisher. He was playing to lose from the merge vote and onwards

[@demonbadger86]

Hai's reaction to Romeo throwing the 'idol' in the fire lol

[@SurvivingTWD]

God, the icon pic just reminding me how robbed Sherri was

[@jennifermarie3158]

I disagree with the Denise example. Her game was simply never good. She was so focused on "making a big move" that she neglected to consider if it was a good move. She had two idols in hand and used BOTH of them at a PRE-MERGE tribal council, and didn't even secure herself a game-long alliance with the move. It was a big move but a horrible move with no real thought or strategy behind it other than "vote out the queen" who was probably her best bet at an alliance and someone she could have beaten in the final two. She didn't fall off because her game was bad all along

[@zachfunk167]

the legendary Abi Maria of Cambodia

[@aleczavala5010]

Surprised she wasn’t on the list

[@timothychester2428]

Abi Maria was the GOAT of all goats. What a legend

[@markjackson6431]

can we really say that Ryan crashed and burn in the merge phase when he wins in a final 3 of him, Chrissy, and Devon?

[@itacryan]

I guess you could say that probably

[@lafingscarecrow]

except he wasn't going to win so yeah we can say that

[@markjackson6431]

@@lafingscarecrow wym? the jury said in the post season that Ryan wins in a final 3 of himself, Chrissy, and Devon. they didn’t know how well Devon was playing until they watched the season.

[@lafingscarecrow]

@@markjackson6431 well put devon in front of the jury, he easily outshines ryan. three votes he'd have would be ben, ashley and lauren. they all saw the game devon had played. devon had the smarts to play the game, and he could easily sway a jury in his favor. and really i just don't seea reality ryan beating him

[@markjackson6431]

@@lafingscarecrow i feel like i’m talking in circles. they didn’t respect Devon’s game. so whatever he said, would not have mattered, Ryan wins. it’s only after when they are watching the season with the rest of us that they realized how great Devon was playing. if the votes were casted at the Reunion then Devon wins but Ryan would’ve won had it based on what they saw on the island. i don’t understand why people like you wanna play fan fiction when the jury literally admitted to all of this. HvHvH isn’t even that old, this was a big point of discussion. you just don’t wanna believe it. youre showing your arrogance “i don’t see a reality where Ryan wins” uhhhh we just told you. hell Luke has even mentioned this on his channel.

[@jackkolero]

Queen Sherri ❤

[@SURVIVORkid23]

To be fair if the forced final 4 fire making didn’t make its appearance I think Ryan has a very good chance to win the game, it’s between him & Devon

[@simonstrobl7919]

By voting out JP, and things like that. Luke from Idoled out can you explain what that meant or if it was a cute little glitch. You’re my favorite person ever btw in the history of the word

[@PingPongMan3377]

During HvHvH, people poked fun at how much of a nothingburger JP was by quoting a particularly dull and non-introspective line of his “and things like that”.

[@aperson22222]

Only seven years between the filmings of Philippines and WaW. How did Denise age so much? She looks older than the players we hadn’t seen since Bush’s first term.

[@NYChica23]

Denise was also the oldest contestant on the season, so there's that

[@justinguidroz9659]

Could have put Tiffany from 41 who got everything she wanted in the premerge and everyone had as the most likely to win when the merge started except for me.

[@Khaleslie]

Hai said on he’d have voted for Romeo if he was against Mike and Jonathan

[@yellercat500cat7]

I think that's more out of pettiness against Mike and Jonathan than voting for Romeo.

[@rogerdodger1984]

There have been way worse post merge falls than Karla. I dont think Denise fits the bill either.

[@Hey-cg3rk]

Denise had no peak at WAW because getting rid of Sandra (someone who wanted to work with her) instead of the person who would go on to easily win the season

[@JSDSandiego]

I was expecting a 3-way entry for Tevin/Hunter/Soda. They seemed to be in a great spot by merge, but cut Moriah then imploded the journey-6 alliance.

[@XanderMatthews-nv9zf]

I think taking out Soda was a premature blindside, they had potential but ultimately Tevin got trigger happy, and then Hunter never rebounded

[@mississippitornado6842]

i liked ryan a lot , everyone forgot about the guy

[@bigbrotherspoilers9756]

ryan is republican?????

[@aperson22222]

@@GeorgeEugeneBarrettNot really.

[@bigbrotherspoilers9756]

@@GeorgeEugeneBarrett no its not... i never knew this about ryan i def dont like him anymore

[@lafingscarecrow]

@@bigbrotherspoilers9756 just because he's republican? not all republicans are bad. just the hardcore trump supporters. like anna from koah rong

[@towelstien4258]

Nice video

[@nathan4327]

I feel like Jay should be on here

[@lastdayonearthmysteryman4849]

I mean he had one move with the KZbinr vote but what else did he do?

[@NYChica23]

@@lastdayonearthmysteryman4849 The Michaela vote right before merge was also his move

[@lastdayonearthmysteryman4849]

@@NYChica23 he still got it.

[@Pixi701]

sherri seemed like 2 different people pre merge and post merge, she had absolute control but then decided she doesnt want to play anymore wich is wild, because she was like one of the few fans that really could have done something if she continued likeshe did, still baffled to this day how hard she dropped the ball

[@cullerjones]

The Fans were down 8 to 4 in numbers to start the merge and Eddie and Reynolds were against her so she was really down 10 to 2. If she continued to play hard she would be easily booted fast as a threat. She had to make herself a goat on purpose to make the end, and did.

[@booshbear]

queen sherri ❤❤❤

[@itacryan]

Few things to say and you guys can say whatever you want. 1. Sherry is a fan so of course she wouldn’t know what to say in the end. 2. There were things that could not of happened and 42 without Romeo doing what he did. 3. It wasn’t for Ryan doing all those things in the beginning Chris he would not of been in that position and Ben would’ve been out of it. 4. Denise may have not won the war but she won the battle by taking out the Queen. 5. Everything she was saying about Cassidy was true and she deserved to lose against Gabler. 6. Thank you for not putting Aubry because if you did I would’ve shed tears and she deserve to win not Michelle.

[@nicholasjessup6788]

Chase from Nicaraguan comes to mind for me. I know he only lost by one vote, but I feel like if he hadn’t been so paranoid during the merge and repeatedly betray his allies he might’ve won. Don’t get me wrong, I love Fabio and I was thrilled to see him win, but Chase had a lot more agency and power than him and to a certain degree probably deserved the win more. He was simply too paranoid and made some truly dumb decisions during the merge.

[@ThexJohnxSmithxShow]

Only missing Jay from MvGX

[@BladeBlur]

Sherri had such a strong pre-merge. Kudos to her making F3, but there is a reason why. Also that answer to Erik was one of the worst things I have seen from a FTC.

[@matthewhecht9257]

Sherri tanked way before the merge. Begore the swap she lost complete control and Laura was voted out.

[@ajl9772]

WaW seriously has some of the worst gameplay of any season. Shows how much luck is involved in wins. Sandra's move was risky, but most the players thought some big advantage was going to happen to who had the most fire tokens at the end. Denise's move made zero sense to me, other than to get herself some clout. Sandra was not only a big target, but someone she knew was willing to work with her. Her only actual ally post merge was Ben who had checked out and decided to be Sarah's lackey.

[@lastdayonearthmysteryman4849]

43 was the Jessie and Cody show. The other two tribes did not matter. Some are saying she played a great game.She was in control of a tribe that didn't have Jessie.

[@yellercat500cat7]

She easily played the 3rd best game though, which doesn't change what you said but James, Sami, Ellie, and Noelle also played quality games as well that against any of the final 3 they also all win. So I feel like she's somewhere in the middle of those 2 statements you said.

[@lastdayonearthmysteryman4849]

@@yellercat500cat7 Fair enough! The final three definitely would’ve lost if a couple other people was in the finals! James, he didn’t play that good of a game! Can you explain?

[@yellercat500cat7]

@@lastdayonearthmysteryman4849 James is one of those people who fits the build at just being a player who is set to do decently right from the jump. He had a solid strategic and social game that was underplayed due to his number 1 being Karla. Geo was overall a more tv personality than him and Lindsey and Cass were more vocal and had their moments on screen. I feel like a lot of those secondary characters, including out f3 that I mentioned were mostly shafted because of how good Karla, Jesse, and Cody looked pre-merge and 2 of them made the finale and Cody's blindside was the most impactful all season. Part of me feels like Ellie only got as much screen time is because Gabler ended up winning. Because Sami, Noelle, and James all picked up steam once they weren't behind bigger presences. Also if not for production putting KIP back into play, and in a spot designed to cause a problem for the person who got it, James likely makes it far and pairs well as a duo with Karla against Cody and Jesse.

[@lastdayonearthmysteryman4849]

@@yellercat500cat7 I can agree that if production did not put knowledge and Pao back in the game James probably does make it a bit faster and possibly could be Karla partner to goes against Jessie and Cody!

[@lastdayonearthmysteryman4849]

@@yellercat500cat7 I think for me I just saw Jessie dominant gameplay and Cody entertainment value! I feel like sometimes when I’m watching the show I pick one to two characters that I really focus on and just focus on them specifically and leave everybody else in the background

[@antoniomarcos2504]

I still think Ryan Ulrich wouldve won against Devon and Chrissy. Its a tight vote but he pulls out the win.

[@joekendras]

I think he is the least likely of those 3 to win by far. Devon being the most likely.

[@NYChica23]

@@joekendras Correction...the least likely of the 3 to win is Chrissy, because that jury really did not like her

[@HD.O.G]

The fact that you’re dissing themes is funny because some of the most iconic players emerged from that time not all of them. You still have a good chunk of players that didn’t, but some of my personal favorites came from that era at least with themes the twists aren’t so bullshit that they Cost someone that deserves to win the game to lose to a pawn like how it usually goes down in the new seasons, not all the new seasons are bad. I just find them doll 50% of the time entertaining 20% of the time and confused by what the producers were thinking when they conceived this twist 30% of the time

[@aperson22222]

Let’s look at the two most recent themes: one was completely irrelevant to the winner’s game, and while he’s not the most popular winner out there I very often see commenters praising him for winning with good old-fashioned social strategy and not needing to rely on the bells and whistles without which it would have been impossible to justify that theme’s existence. The previous theme was indispensable to the winner’s game and fans scream about how unfair and illegitimate that was. Actually, the pattern broadly holds when you look at most of the themes that were actually integral to gameplay mechanics (as opposed to those that were just dubious, arbitrary casting gimmicks).

[@imlazy6103]

Bro why isn’t Q on here, he should be number 1 on here fr bc he became crazy which screwed his whole game and whole alliance.

[@nathan4327]

You should do funniest fake idol plays

[@RJnottheraccoon]

Yes please!

[@OakInOasis]

6:06 A move that was absolutely terrible for her btw

[@terrancebrown87]

Willem Dafoe and Shooter McGavin had a daughter named Denise

[@taylorshank1638]

Denise from Survivor is like the opposite of Caddyshack to me don't ruin it

[@dbarller]

Yes give us themes back

[@aperson22222]

Let’s look at the two most recent themes: one was completely irrelevant to the winner’s game, and while he’s not the most popular winner out there I very often see commenters praising him for winning with good old-fashioned social strategy and not needing to rely on the bells and whistles without which it would have been impossible to justify that theme’s existence. The other was indispensable to the winner’s game and fans scream about how unfair and illegitimate that was. Actually, the pattern broadly holds when you look at most of the themes that were actually integral to gameplay mechanics (as opposed to those that were just dubious, arbitrary casting gimmicks).

[@dbarller]

@@aperson22222 ain’t nobody reading all that. Not all themes hit. Not all seasons are good but my god survivor is in a bad spot. The last 6 seasons just seem blended together

[@lafingscarecrow]

give us new locations instead

[@mienafriggstad3360]

Yes we want themes back

[@mienafriggstad3360]

💯

[@swisscheese1]

Sherri is a queen

[@Friendjacob]

lol why so much Geo slander?

[@anthonymort5202]

He doesn't win against anybody going as far back to Sonia and for those who don't know that's the first boot of Borneo

[@ericsayers2443]

This isn't really related to this video at all but if survivor wasn't so unnecessarily bringing back old med evacs we could have a season like Philippines with Caleb, Bruce, and Randen.

[@yellercat500cat7]

Caleb and Bruce already got a 2nd chance. Yes I know Penner had played twice too but he's actually a player who deserves a 3rd shot, though I wouldn't mind seeing Bruce again. Matthew(44) or Neal might be a person I could see work for a Philippines season. They would also probably include a female medevac too I just can't think of any on the top of my head

[@NYChica23]

@@yellercat500cat7 Kourtney or technically Dana, since Dana would've likely been pulled in the next few days if she hadn't quit

[@Drew-yu4zq]

🥳

[@awilk709]

Q from 46 should definitely be on this list

[@lastdayonearthmysteryman4849]

Karla was great player in pre-merge but at the merge it clear she is just had no competition because want she did she failed!

[@micheli5772]

I want Karla to go back on the show she was my favorite of that whole season.

[@esinger23]

Noelle was one of my favorites as well

[@TyBoS8]

Lookie Bear? 🥺👉👈

[@manuelg.e.8948]

Shantel>>

[@loganslife3901]

First

[@brains76]

Second

[@WhistleMeThis]

Sherri > Cochran

[@bobbyhall994]

SHERRI MOTHER

[@tylerhanson1463]

Ryan is Republican? TIL, i guess lol

[@aperson22222]

Ever notice how Republican Survivors always end up becoming huge embarrassments to the show a few years after their seasons air? Except Colton, he was an embarrassment as it aired. And John Rocker was already an embarrassment before Borneo even filmed.

[@lafingscarecrow]

@@aperson22222 what about mike holloway?

[@NewBootScoobin]

I’m tired of Brenda being called toxic. Dawn played her like a fool and was called out and paid for it in the end, rightfully so. Brenda went out of her way to help someone who was crying and threatening to quit, to be backstabbed by that person. All she wanted was for dawn to own up to what she said and did.

[@booshbear]

ew denise

[@alexd740]

To insinuate Brenda as toxic demonstrates a level of ignorance on your part. Let’s be real, Dawn was toxic to the game and everyone she she aligned with in the game.