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Susie Woo English 戴舒萱

Susie Woo English 戴舒萱

11 ай бұрын

Today's video is about the very complex and nuanced subject of class in the UK! For sure everyone has their own views and opinions about this, and I definitely don't wish to offend anyone! Next week we'll continue talking about the 4 remaining "myths" 🧐
The Great British Class Calculator:
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0:38 Caveats
1:21 What is class?
1:36 Lower class
1:53 Working class
2:46 Middle class
3:22 Upper class
5:15 Myth #1
12:15 Next time
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@Artemis1536
@Artemis1536 11 ай бұрын
這讓我想到之前聽外國教授(忘記是英國人還是歐洲哪個國家)說,在許多人炫耀著自己買了什麼名貴的包包、車子、鞋子或豪華別墅時,物質上的炫耀在北歐國家已經過時了,現在北歐人的炫耀方式是說自己的生活方式有多環保、健康或人道,例如買了fair trade的水果、連瓶子都能分解的沐浴乳等。當然,這肯定有個體差異,我教授的說辭也可能是根據個人經驗並簡化後的結果,但我覺得這是相當有意思的現象(
@user-oq2vh4tp7b
@user-oq2vh4tp7b 11 ай бұрын
聽舒萱的英語很舒服,內容又非常有水準和深入,感覺都快被舒萱帶入上流社會的環境中了😂
@chichichen927
@chichichen927 9 ай бұрын
我覺得不是*上流社會* ,而是 *有教養的思想,見解* 的前提下,自然產生的英文口語,語調。
@acethis
@acethis 11 ай бұрын
love your linguistic ability to swap between fluent Mandarin and English so seamlessly ❤😊
@simin7588
@simin7588 11 ай бұрын
非常喜欢Susie做这种有自己insight的视频,其中很多短语用法也很有用。Big fan!
@vivianchou7853
@vivianchou7853 11 ай бұрын
很喜歡這類英國文化的介紹,謝謝Susie
@weilingchiu5730
@weilingchiu5730 11 ай бұрын
去英國唸過書,就很可以理解Culture對於社會的關聯和影響
@leesimage
@leesimage 11 ай бұрын
感謝製播,萬分佩服美女的勇氣,非常有內涵,這是聯合王國人民不願提及的現實 … 🙋
@user-bw3rn6rt2x
@user-bw3rn6rt2x 11 ай бұрын
謝謝舒萱,讓我們知道英國文化跟東西方文化差異。 感恩
@nancylu8437
@nancylu8437 11 ай бұрын
susie我每次看你的视频都能有英语能力、视野开拓等等方面的收获,感谢分享❤❤(而且还可以看美女😊)
@Joyceladybug
@Joyceladybug 11 ай бұрын
这次拍摄的这个花园好棒,Susie,可以聊一下英式花园,感觉你聊起来会非常有意思。
@areyouok-yes
@areyouok-yes 11 ай бұрын
舒萱,我很喜歡這個主題, 1. working class 2. middle class 3. upper class 有個問題想請問您,在觀賞"英國"的電影和電視影集,來至英國和美國的朋友會告訴我,這位演員正在用勞工階級的英文對話,另外那個演員用上層的英文說話對話,我的問題是,這是因為演戲的需要而改變說話模式,還是目前在英國依舊會有很多人用上層階級模式的語言,無論他們的真實的身分,只是想讓自己展現禮貌,或讓別人覺得他們更有格調和上流的身分。謝謝
@ckh9939
@ckh9939 11 ай бұрын
Dear Susie, I am really impressed by your insights of the topic, hence your intelligence. A lady of distinct temperament, and great beauty. You reminded me of Catherine McCormack in The Brave Heart..😊
@dmw6fv
@dmw6fv 11 ай бұрын
Thank you very much Susie for explaining this interesting topic to us! Would you mind having another video talking about another related topic, Downton Abbey the British TV drama? I'm curious how British people think about this drama as it seems quite popular. Does it reflect a certain kind of mixed feeling of curiosity and admiration from the audience?
@rommelwang6996
@rommelwang6996 11 ай бұрын
+1
@chaselee86
@chaselee86 11 ай бұрын
Yes, in Downton Abbey it seems to me that class division in Britain is very serious, you have the noble that doesn't need to work the land and people who worked for the nobles, but at the end of the series, we are seeing how society is changing since the First World War.
@Tian-lb1dk
@Tian-lb1dk 11 ай бұрын
拥有了就不太在意,未曾有用却让人向往!加上个人对唐顿庄园的绝对挚爱,所以想感受一下贵族生活,唐顿的影响力+1😂😂😂。我觉得英国人大部分都很有自己的想法,多元多角度,有点小哲学家的意思❤😂很多观点对于我这个亚洲人来说很新奇,我觉得非常好。
@realtaichi
@realtaichi 11 ай бұрын
根據BBC測試,我是Technical Middle Class的階級。其實在英國社會階級的辨識還是很重要,不管你想做什麼,一定會遇到這個偏見情況。
@leesimage
@leesimage 11 ай бұрын
😄 原來國協同胞自己也要作測驗啊?俺以為那是寫在 DNA裡的認知耶 … 😉
@realtaichi
@realtaichi 11 ай бұрын
我的DNA一定是混血過的血統,沒辦法從我的DNA裡認知分清楚我的英國社會階級。我是北歐民族的血統那肯定很清楚。在英國Technical Middle Class 是一個新出來的社會階級,這個階級佔總人口6%,那樣我算是一個英國少數民族原住民吧!@@leesimage
@leesimage
@leesimage 11 ай бұрын
@@realtaichi 哇塞,感謝您的回覆,您的華語太厲害啦!祖籍北歐又在英格蘭工作,並會流利的中文!太佩服啦!🙌
@kaiyuan2893
@kaiyuan2893 11 ай бұрын
You’ve navigated the sensitivity of this topic beautifully, well done!
@josephjingsun7400
@josephjingsun7400 11 ай бұрын
It's a very nice piece. Feeling so much consonant here. I have struggled a couple times to explain to some of my Chinese new immigrant friends (usually didn't go well) how the system is working here, why they don't have to so obsessively pursue a higher social economical status or classes, don't necessarily squeeze out every single pocket coin sending the kids to private schools... Behind these bunch of behaviors actually there are something even bigger in the mindsets, like stereotyping people by their ID of class, race, ethnicity, panicking to living in a sunburb seeing more poor people or lower class/race moving in, politically tend to conservative which is totally fine, but more like a remnant in the mind of believing in absolute power other than democracy. I v been diving into such an ideological world and trying to understand its bottom logic. Simply people have their mindsets established from their life or survival experience. They believe in power in a whole, not necessarily distinguish power, money or class as they treat them the same thing which can guarantee them safe, extra resources, and supremacy to others. All these are deeply rooted to a society with a highly unificated power - totalitarianism. No strange a highly hierarchy society in history usually was also a monarchy country. Modern societies have evolved with a more diversified value system which allows people can live their lives with a more individual and personal way. It's the base of the freedom and thriving.
@CC-kx9jg
@CC-kx9jg 11 ай бұрын
Your video is always enjoyable because you are such a charismatic and cultivated person. Keep it up Susie.
@chengmichael2703
@chengmichael2703 11 ай бұрын
Yes, I agree that down-to-earth is a lovable personality/character, and appreciate Brits' modesty as well! Street fashion is so appealing that it makes one look urban-chic expressing strong sense of individuality, I(from HK) love wearing in this style too!
@yuronghuan
@yuronghuan 11 ай бұрын
舒萱好有气质!
@user-oz8oc4rw7y
@user-oz8oc4rw7y 11 ай бұрын
小萱的鼻翼最动人可爱,因为微笑在那里排队聚集
@NicoleTong-tt9jc
@NicoleTong-tt9jc Ай бұрын
This is very well said! thanks Susie
@keawechan7748
@keawechan7748 11 ай бұрын
Any sensible real upper class person would surely won't want to proclaim themselves as one in my opinion. What a lovely place by the way!!
@workingholidaywithlogan
@workingholidaywithlogan 11 ай бұрын
Beautiful British accent and subtitle I can be understandable, looking forward to seeing more video like this. Cheers.
@edwardtsang7348
@edwardtsang7348 11 ай бұрын
Thank you for explaining this complicated topic with this fair, succinct video! BTW, I like your acting from 05:55 😊👍
@echao1798
@echao1798 11 ай бұрын
Btw, ‘shrinking’ = 縮小;‘下滑’ = slipping/sliding downward
@onedaymore99
@onedaymore99 4 ай бұрын
非常棒的分享❤!期待之後上課學習
@ignatiuskung600
@ignatiuskung600 11 ай бұрын
like your facial expression while playing cricket. very entertaining and informative session, well done Susie
@LorentiChau-db3cb
@LorentiChau-db3cb 4 ай бұрын
I think we can’t categorise people base on their wealth, but conduct ,behaviour and attitude of a person would determine with his or her quality. People as like yourself has an excellent quality and very graceful attitude. I am impressed
@sylphsh
@sylphsh 11 ай бұрын
It is human nature to seek status, power, recognition and money. Lots of my friends around me are striving for them, some are British, and some are non-British. E.g., one is my PostDoc Supervisor who is British, is now CBE, FRS, FMedSci, Non-executive director of companies and Professor at a top UK University. Essentially, they just want to feel good about themselves. ❤
@david84116
@david84116 11 ай бұрын
非常認真的影片,像讀了一篇專欄文章甚至小論文!
@azkcm
@azkcm 11 ай бұрын
Now I get to know more about British culture. Thank you Susie. By the way, the house is posh 😆
@weiencan
@weiencan 11 ай бұрын
Such a fascinating video. Thank you Susie
@xinmozhang4427
@xinmozhang4427 11 ай бұрын
Really good topic and thanks for sharing!
@JoJoAllen
@JoJoAllen 11 ай бұрын
I really like your videos, they are interesting and I can learn English from them. Thank you very much.
@mr.furball1981
@mr.furball1981 11 ай бұрын
猫不需要人承認,永遠都是貴族🤔
@paiwanhan
@paiwanhan 11 ай бұрын
I wish to see more videos of you playing cricket. You know, as a Taiwanese baseball fan, we are fascinated by cricket.
@changsaintway1
@changsaintway1 11 ай бұрын
謝謝你的解析😊
@kevintam1027
@kevintam1027 11 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing and that's a thoughtful contrast of culture between East and West. With home origin from Hong Kong, I can say in our cultural context, getting wealthy and climbing up the social ladder are always desirable in general.
@xczhtw
@xczhtw 11 ай бұрын
I was wondering if the background is CG then I saw the sun ray changed and realized Susie is in that house. It is interesting to me because most of the time I saw British flats are small, people living in such a big house must be extrordinary wealthy. Then Susie said it is not her house...
@foggythomas7686
@foggythomas7686 10 ай бұрын
你好!很喜歡看到你出現及教學英語,但每次學習只感覺到你說英語時都很快速,對於我在學習課題上很費力,有感學習時聽及看追不上一致,學習上感有點吃力,如你能關注到這點就更完美!!我也在期待有一天收看你片時能流暢到完全了解及聽講一致。謝謝!
@xihongshichaojidan
@xihongshichaojidan 11 ай бұрын
第一次被KZbin推薦,你中文太好了吧
@Tastyoldvet
@Tastyoldvet 11 ай бұрын
Tks to Susie for ur good work n insights shared😘
@MARKINAU8
@MARKINAU8 11 ай бұрын
毫無疑問,英國的階級分別現在主要看你有多少財富而不是出身名門
@Katherinelinkathy
@Katherinelinkathy 11 ай бұрын
非常喜歡這集 謝謝
@angelb28
@angelb28 11 ай бұрын
可以說一下Oasis的Wonderwall 為什麼在英國人心中有特別地位嗎?
@teenweeny
@teenweeny 11 ай бұрын
As a parent based in London, lots of English parents said they don’t want to send kids to private but next term you found they changing school. I think about private education, international parents are more honest than British because British feel a bit shame and uncomfortable to be posh …….😂
@SiriusTheKid
@SiriusTheKid 11 ай бұрын
like posh spice
@nausicaa_layla
@nausicaa_layla 9 ай бұрын
Love that someone gets to talk about class system in Britain. Sometimes it seems (marginally) to be a taboo!
@Autumn_2022
@Autumn_2022 11 ай бұрын
4:13 翻譯有誤: live theatre ≠ 看生活,戲劇
@louis3452
@louis3452 11 ай бұрын
很中立的影片 👍
@HcDaN
@HcDaN 7 ай бұрын
希望年輕的時候就看過這部影片 ,省去一生好多空泛的念頭。
@incarrlux9841
@incarrlux9841 Ай бұрын
你说英文的时候太快了!
@taichikuen
@taichikuen 11 ай бұрын
Thanks, Susie. It’s interesting.🙂
@hk_200k
@hk_200k 11 ай бұрын
My experience so far is that nearly all Brits are humble, friendly and down to earth, though some of them have a nice Land Rover, and have summer holiday in Spain/ Italy/ South America. Maybe I don't have any chance to meet any upper class people yet.
@sasajian3322
@sasajian3322 11 ай бұрын
Love the content and how you deliver it ❤
@michellec1866
@michellec1866 11 ай бұрын
我记得读过一本书“the Englishness”, 也讲了很多起名,生活class用语,穿着,哪里买东西。。。等分出class。😂
@chiouharrison1862
@chiouharrison1862 11 ай бұрын
Beautiful kitchen, I like it.
@AdriandeSilva-rl3lg
@AdriandeSilva-rl3lg 11 ай бұрын
see last name Woo, but still, when video started, DID NOT expect mandarin... i am 75 percent Chinese and yet English my only hope
@kellyting7674
@kellyting7674 11 ай бұрын
Thank you very much for this interesting topic ❤❤❤👍👍👍👍
@user-qg3xu3ij8n
@user-qg3xu3ij8n 11 ай бұрын
贝克汉姆好像就很想当up class😂
@gavinyu21
@gavinyu21 11 ай бұрын
The Brits might be very subtle to talk about class, but it does exist. Just check out Central, West and East London, and you can easily experience the distinctive gap.
@jerometsowinghuen
@jerometsowinghuen 11 ай бұрын
These four classes are similar to Hong Kong, based on different statuses in groups of people. A fascinating topic to listen to the society.
@geekydude2438
@geekydude2438 11 ай бұрын
Outstanding content. Thank you!
@CalvinWongHKG
@CalvinWongHKG 11 ай бұрын
that's a funny topics sharing, thanks for the tips !
@JeremyLEE315
@JeremyLEE315 11 ай бұрын
非常有趣,感謝分享。我聽過的解釋為英國階級固化,沒有多少上流的空間。也有可能這兩點相輔相成,因為長期階級固化,因此大家都放棄繼續向上流動,而形成不同的文化?
@InvestWithPrudence
@InvestWithPrudence 11 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing Susie! My result is Elite, but I think it's mostly due to how much money/ asset I have. The US, with its comparatively lower taxes, might be a tad easier to build wealth in than the UK. Choosing where to live can reshape one's life, and often, it's a choice many don’t even realize they're making. I once took a leap from Beijing to West Africa in pursuit of opportunities, and that journey led to a scholarship at University of Notre Dame (US), and eventually I decided to live in the US. I built my financial freedom over the course of seven years, and now I no longer work for money. Today, after teaching at Arizona State and launching my own businesses, I'm crafting videos to champion financial literacy and inspire others. I always wonder: if not for that first leap, where would I be? 🌍📚🎥🌱
@SLApple-hp9ed
@SLApple-hp9ed 11 ай бұрын
Learned a vast British vocabulary.
@Hermit-Crab
@Hermit-Crab 11 ай бұрын
In 1989 when I went to the UK for the first time, there was a firm that would ONLY employ graduates from the public schools.
@eldahini01
@eldahini01 11 ай бұрын
想起以前看過本 Watching the English/the hidden rules of English behavior,再看了這集Susie視頻。你怎能不喜歡英國文化呢?
@DJ-ys4jr
@DJ-ys4jr 11 ай бұрын
That is very different from what I thought!! I thought more Brits want to be related to like royal families. Thank you!!
@99elasomon78
@99elasomon78 11 ай бұрын
上流跟王室貴族應該是兩種東西,王室貴族是祖上傳下來,平民即使再有錢也不會成為王室貴族哪一族群。
@JoeyParkerJ
@JoeyParkerJ 11 ай бұрын
Most English university students wear oversized Jack Wills outfit, Oxford students will always be in their black and white gowns.
@brucelam404
@brucelam404 11 ай бұрын
It's really interesting to learn about the stereotypes regarding social classes in the UK! I find it particularly convincing when these perspectives come from a native in England. I'd like to discuss the quote you mentioned: "There are fun people and arsehole people scattered throughout the income and class sections of society." However, I believe that things are quite different in Asia or Hong Kong. I admit that this is a sensitive topic, but based on my observations, individuals from the middle-class or upper-class (I am referring only to income here) are more likely to be open-minded or "fun" in nature. This is because they often have greater opportunities to pursue higher education, study abroad, or travel, which contribute significantly to their knowledge, experiences, and personalities. While it is still possible for individuals from lower-income families to be "fun," it is generally more challenging in Hong Kong or Asia, at least in my opinion. Thanks for sharing, Susie!
@s0910149
@s0910149 11 ай бұрын
I don't think you need to be educated and experienced to be a kind person. And on the contrary, I have been seeing a lot of kind people who are so willing to give, but just because they are so willing to give their resources away, they don't have enough savings to enjoy themselves.
@Wolverine999
@Wolverine999 11 ай бұрын
Just completed the survey from The Great British Class Calculator, I'm relieved to find out that I'm in the category of the Techical Middle Class 😂
@MrPHILIPYEH
@MrPHILIPYEH 11 ай бұрын
the survival of the fittest ,the proverb by a great biologist ,Darwin 達爾文 妳很漂亮!!
@kennethho7671
@kennethho7671 11 ай бұрын
Susie will surely a model of upper class by definition. I will begin to admire British upper class if you will become one of them.
@sarabande90
@sarabande90 11 ай бұрын
Have you read "Watching the English" by Oxford anthropologist Kate Fox? It could give you interesting topics to talk about. Of course, I enjoy your discussions too.
@zhangjie8616
@zhangjie8616 11 ай бұрын
I think your opinion about class is cool, like it
@ccc8128
@ccc8128 11 ай бұрын
Everyone can say what they want. But one thing is true: Wealthy people have choices, Poor people have no choice. Wealthy people can choose to live working class or lower class lives. But poor people have no choice. British people like to be modest show that they are more polite.
@zhanghong2302
@zhanghong2302 11 ай бұрын
但是富人不会选择向下流动,事实上没有人主动选择向下流动。
@liontown6437
@liontown6437 11 ай бұрын
my daughter still described other girls in her school are chavy 😂😂! chav and roadman! Interestingly, some private school kids try to be chavs, because they find it's cool!
@Thomas-Chin10
@Thomas-Chin10 11 ай бұрын
Very interesting discussion and part of it amusing.😊It seems rather anachronistic that there are still people out there these days who are still concerned about their social status without realizing that even noble birth is totally meaningless. After all, you can't choose your birth but what really matters is what you do. You would never see the real super rich brag because they don't need to do. If they are decent, they devote their energy on a cause rather on vanity.
@DK-fn7tz
@DK-fn7tz 11 ай бұрын
我是马来西亚人,真的很想去英国看看❤❤❤
@vincenthu7637
@vincenthu7637 11 ай бұрын
please do not. illegal migrants aint welcome
@SGKSK
@SGKSK 11 ай бұрын
Let’s do a social experiment: visit the local Poundland in the stereotypical attires to each social class and let’s find out how people perceive you based on your appearance, your accent and your mannerism.
@jeangranger2719
@jeangranger2719 11 ай бұрын
I'm just wondering, do you think that the current UK PM belongs to the upper class? Because to most people, he seems to be unable to understand the pain of healthcare workers with long working hours and low-pay.
@mokkawai9908
@mokkawai9908 11 ай бұрын
Not only Britain, all countries have such classes. Some divides seriously.
@tony18mo
@tony18mo 11 ай бұрын
OMG Susie looks so elegant
@coolmumdianna
@coolmumdianna 11 ай бұрын
Hi susie, how do you do your doubsle subtitles, thats something i'm always struggling wiht. its hard to outsource.
@claudialee1500
@claudialee1500 10 ай бұрын
If you live in the area where there are lots of council houses then all the common attributes of a typical working class person are very very prevalent..
@ParcoLee
@ParcoLee 11 ай бұрын
Well, what I feel here is that quite a few guys in both working class and upper class don't wanna stay inside their own class that much, since working class guys have to face their inflating consumer prices, food prices, utility bills and transport spends, and even struggling to rent their own home if they live in south England, meanwhile upper class guys have to face their 40% or even 45% tax let alone other taxes like VAT. One of my ex-girlfriend 15 years ago she stayed and studied in UCL for 8 years, I have no idea about her class should be counted in London according to that. But my favors and tastes are quite old-school and kind of "jazz-classical era" should I call, a little bit "regular" things in literate styling. I'm not sure how to tell.
@frehmann8031
@frehmann8031 11 ай бұрын
上流社會幹下流勾當的 滿街都是 幹嘛去當上流社會 ? 自己多涉獵科技發展的議題還比較 有趣的多 多讀一些有深度的書幫助自己深入理解這個世界
@bonceheung3244
@bonceheung3244 11 ай бұрын
Cool subjects to understand English cultures 🌷🌷
@maaxsxzone2914
@maaxsxzone2914 11 ай бұрын
从Ins来的,加油!
@catttcattt
@catttcattt 11 ай бұрын
It would be better to know which class does this observation of classes come from. Different classes has different views about classes.
@sharonyu6365
@sharonyu6365 11 ай бұрын
This is interesting. I agree that the classes are very blurred and outdated as my friend told me many decades ago, some naughty boys in the state schools teased girls in grammar schools as upper class. Now you can't hear any people talk about this topic in UK, because the lifestyles are very diverse and it is meaningless to talk about it. It's true that chav says 'you are posh' to insult people who look 'special' to them, but in fact, they are ignorant and silly.
@toctoc144
@toctoc144 11 ай бұрын
好棒啊!这一期!
@toctoc144
@toctoc144 11 ай бұрын
不过中文字幕有些许错误。9:57 Deprivation 或许不应该翻译为堕落状态。“沉醉其中”或许是不是好一些啊?
@iodium131
@iodium131 11 ай бұрын
喜歡妳台式的口音,感覺特別親切!
@alexatian6695
@alexatian6695 11 ай бұрын
I think one interesting mindset that is probably behind all these is being an 'inverted snob', which is why some of them would demonstrate reluctance towards being 'posh'
@josephlownang6992
@josephlownang6992 11 ай бұрын
Good video
@BoxesMax
@BoxesMax 11 ай бұрын
真实,从容而有内涵的人,无需别人定义,都是上层阶级。
@muibryan88
@muibryan88 11 ай бұрын
POSH in Cambridge dictionary is 高雅, 上流社會的.。。。,not 時髦.
@davidchern4960
@davidchern4960 11 ай бұрын
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