SUSVARA UNVEILED -VS- Everything!

[@Mihke]

i fell out of my chair when you said "when am i shaving my head"! thanks josh

[@chungang7037]

800s still in the conversation all these years later...

[@BIadelores]

Good headphones last a very long time. The HD600 is literally more than 30 years old.

[@jefryions5657]

Everything that is related to a headphones' performance is proportional to the amplitude of the impulse because headphones are minumum phase. All acoustic effects like soundstage, imaging, detail, dynamics etc are products of non-linear distortion created when there is a rise or fall in the amplitude in the response. They can all be decribed by the frequency response in minumum phase.

[@michaeljbus]

^This is absolutely right, with the possible exception of acoustic impedance and how the headphones sit on your head, which can contribute to the sense of soundstage/spaciousness, as well as physical size, which can affect the perceived size of the sounds. The other thing is, there's no inherent sound quality to a driver. So it would be better if Josh avoided talking about the 'driver' being detailed or faster like at 1:45, since with the exception of any roll off or difference in bass and treble extension they would be operating at the same 'speed' (frequency).

[@jefryions5657]

@michaeljbus people do still subjectively report spaciousness effects in headphones with high acoustic Z. However, headphones with low impedance have very consistent subjective evaluations, which makes sense.

[@davids2214]

I've heard this before and I do not doubt it, but what I've never understood about it is why it is, then, that planars so tend to sound so much faster subjectively than dynamic driver headphones, and in general headphones (and speakers) with reduced moving mass present as more detailed. I have a hard time believing it is simply sighted bias as I have certainly experienced it myself despite not expecting it to be a thing. Is this something that shows up in FR in a way that we can readily see?

[@jefryions5657]

@davids2214 One thing we are still unaware of is the psychoacoustic effects of acoustic impedance. That is the variance in the headphones properties due to the impedance differential between the driver and the atmosphere around it. The lower the acoustic impedance of a headphone, the more consistent the headphones' acoustic properties are on a different head. When we look at headphones that people say are extremely fast and detailed sounding like STAX and Hifimans, we see them posses very low HpTF or acoustic impedance. This effect is still proportional to the FR, but can't be measured over a single FFT sweep.

[@michaeljbus]

@davids2214 these are things that would show up in FR, particularly FR measured at the eardrum. That sense of speed can be attributed to the balance between different parts of the frequency response. I can only speculate as to the correlations between particular qualities and FR characteristics - for example the planar plucked quality (eg that most Hifimans present) might be associated with the more jagged fine grained treble response and balance between fundamentals and harmonics. In theory if you could EQ 2 headphones with different drivers to present exactly the same FR at the eardrum, they would be perceived as exactly the same. In practice there are fine grained FR differences and other factors that mean it would be difficult in practice to make 2 headphones sound identical.

[@VeryCoolAlan]

We need a Stax video bro. Electrostatic is superior I believe than most.

[@paweoboj5753]

Yeah Stax in terms of SQ (especially detail retrieval, precision and natural sound) are astonishing

[@SomeHandleIGuess]

I own a bunch of stax headphones and honestly it depends. They take really well to Eq as well

[@VeryCoolAlan]

@SomeHandleIGuess me too. I stand by my opinion

[@SomeHandleIGuess]

@@VeryCoolAlan wait I recognize you, you’re the guy who made the video about 009 all those years ago

[@robinkleinsteuber5217]

I inherently believe that as well. I believe that the problems are the implementations only, not the really superb principle of the ESL's.

[@brianpauw]

Your hair is fine dude!

[@Donatosind]

Bought them. Love them.

[@OmnipotentO]

Found Bill Gates alt account

[@michaeljbus]

Good video, I did think it was funny you bopping your head in the Diana at 10:02 with the headphones not plugged in. In general it would be great where you talk about some songs presenting differently on different headphones to name some songs as examples.

[@kokonator333]

😂i see a white wire tho, u sure they're not plugged?

[@michaeljbus]

Oh yeah, I can see it now you've pointed it out!

[@bren4973]

Too bad you didn't have a utopia to compare

[@murasakizerozaki]

What exactly type of songs where Susvara disappearing?

[@alexalegria8036]

Compared too modhouse?

[@avimisra1312]

What genre of music do you prefer on the Susvara versus on the Emperyan 2?

[@KristianK42]

Can we have timestamps, pretty please?

[@lubis1991]

the baby cameo

[@WyattOShea]

Voshua Jalour

[@mproyuclan]

👏👏👏 How about compared to Abyss 1266 tc phi?

[@Jingyih]

What about this vs. sus OG? Thanks!

[@imbhulu]

love the edition xs with fiio k7

[@Eyemahere]

I’m interested in buying my first audiophile headphones. If price doesn’t matter, and all I’m looking for is pure enjoyment, what would you recommend? Thanks.

[@Ulysses313131]

Focal Utopia (2022) with Cardas Clear Beyond cable.

[@marek82able]

I don't know what you test the hearing aids on, but the susvars need the best possible amplifier to show what they know

[@phetmoz]

Thanks for the video. If you could please give your comprehensive thoughts on Arya Unveiled directly vs HE1000 Unveiled, I would be most pleased!

[@versaleyang]

Still no Final Audio D8000/Pro, and the upcoming D8000 DC/Pro headphones reviews on most mainstream youtube channels. I would love to compare the Susvara with those.

[@marekkouril7134]

I ve heard both D8000 DC and DC Pro. Both are bass monsters with good technicalities but for example Diana DZ is better in terms of resolution and detail. Havent heard the Susvara but I think that they are completely different sounding headphones. D8000 DC warm and bassy, DC Pro were little bit stronger in technicalities and brighter. Susvara will be bass light and airy compared to both Finals.

[@versaleyang]

@@marekkouril7134 Thank you for your impressions. I own the D8000 Pro and yes they are really good at bass, after owning it for almost 2 years now I realized how clean bass (not the amount but quality and speed) is so important to elevate the entire sound. I wish more reviewers would give more spotlight to the Final products because I think they are at a good price range for how they sound with excellent build quality and craftmanship.

[@ReverendDr.Thomas]

Thank you, Josh! Incidentally, the Sanskrit word, "Susvara", is bereft of long vowels. 🤓

[@chungang7037]

👀

[@davec2007]

Caldera.

[@kennethgross8079]

Ditto. Or Atrium.

[@chungang7037]

PortaPros!

[@davec2007]

@@chungang7037 PortaPros + $7,950!

[@vinnydolce541]

I’m still surprised you like the EM2 so much. I purchased them and sold them because they weren’t working for me. I then demoed them a few more times to make sure it wasn’t mine unit since a lot of people like them. I don’t know, they wanna be warm but at that 6k sharp peak that’s throws it all off for me. I recommend giving the Final Audio D7000 a try if you haven’t heard them yet. Rumor has it they pair very well with the Evo you have hiding in the back of your B-Roll.

[@JukkaVarjovuori]

I got myself Empy 2 that doesn’t have that drastic peak (measured) than some of the Empy 2’s out there. I really like mine.

[@JTB--]

Susvara Unveiled vs HE1000 Unveiled head to head steel cage match!!

[@FreddieDaniells]

hope an HEKu review is coming soon :)

[@LencoTB]

I wish someone could send you proper Scandinavian build quality like Bang and Olufsen H100

[@HeadphoneDay]

Is the only headphone who I would rank at the same level as the MDR-R10

[@HiFiInsider]

Susvara Unveiled is pretty good but the high price is a deal breaker for me. They should have kept it at $6K and it would sell like hotcakes.

[@BilllieJean-e9y]

Everything ? Where is Focal Utopia 2022 ?

[@soulfulfool]

probably nothing can beat mid range of Atrium (open) those cans are pure pleasure

[@한지만-x6x]

I want 2022 new utopia review.

[@VitiateTheImmortal]

HD800S ❤ my personal love 😊 would like to own susvaras too tho but normal not unveiled lol too risky

[@KristianK42]

10:30 Your toddler? ❤

[@Skeith89]

No immersive soundstage no buy. I prefer HD800S over Sus Unveiled.

[@advancegeo2986]

funny enough i just shaved my head

[@johnellison3173]

Just grow it out at the sides and come it over. You wont even notice. Honest.

[@palefaced1]

Eh, too expensive for what you get.

[@kirkhamilton775]

when are you shaving your head 💀💀💀💀💀💀💀

[@carminedesanto6746]

GM ☕️🍩☃️☃️ $8k US …so by the time I’d see it in Toronto ..you’re looking at something in the $11-12k ….so no. That being said..Meze Emp’s 2 or Elites ….still pricey ….but not punishing . Have a great day 😊

[@masterazlan6999]

For me ori susvara better...Peace!

[@RC-qc2nz]

Sennheiser hd 600 still has better tonality lol

[@WildArtSAL1337]

Sennheiser hd600 is over hyped. The only thing hd600 are good at is timbre. Bass is poor both in quality and quantity. No soundstage at all (3blob effect) imagine is fine but not really that good. Laying/seperat fine but still beating by other cheaper headphones. Bass and treble extensions also poor. Detail retrieval fine but also beating by cheaper hp

[@johnellison3173]

The 600 is still the best Sennheiser 👍

[@WildArtSAL1337]

@@johnellison3173HE-1 porbly better . And depend. On system or use EQ. HD800 OG with eq is way better than HD6X0 series. Way better build, comfort and driver. HD600 cant take EQ very well. But HD800 can. People saying HD600 is so natural sounding. Naah. HD600 sound is only inside u brain, cant remember last time sounds only exist in ur head in real life 😉 HD600 is shouty to.. and the bass is no way near Natural

[@soulfulfool]

ZMF Atrium destroy HD600 in everything, 4x cheaper than susvara unveiled

[@johnellison3173]

@@soulfulfool at what price though plus they are not globally available

[@Momentum_Mastery_vibes]

Hum First Hum First

[@goldenstasgs]

LCD 5 and Abyss better in all ways? Looks like you are paid with this companies. It’s absurd.

[@blakenelson7784]

He said abyss was better he didn’t like the lcd-5 at all.

[@alexandrlutsenko6733]

This is really a handbook how to keep all sponsors biased opinion in one video, bravo! (for example saying Empy 2 has a better bass to Susvara while Empy 2 is sub bass sucker having roll-of starting 40hz which is a shame for high-end planar)

[@goldenstasgs]

Josh AirPods Max also has more bass, it’s better than Sus from your logic 🤣

[@hmuhmunkunkuapua]

lets start calling them SUSU and HEKU

[@soulfulfool]

wow how long did you think about that?