The Failed Smash Touhou Fangame...

Hisoutensoku is cool and all, but what about a Touhou-styed Smash Bros. fangame? That was supposed to happen, but it failed. Why did it fail? Was it sheer incompetence at it again? Was it failure to do duties? Was it because the programmer was a Yoshi main? I will explain to you why this fangame was supposed to exist... but suddenly didn't!!
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[@veryredfumoze]

Give me 5 years and I might do it myself

[@Suwawako]

Bet

[@nguyenduyloc9248]

i will come back after 5 years

[@spookymas5431]

5 years? alright then

[@weesnaws12345]

I’ll wait

[@BadApplePC98]

We're waiting, to be disappointed, or incredibly impressed.

[@hrkinezz4419ez]

it remind me of that guy who completely remade touhou 5 to be in the style of windows games but was scared of zun and kept the game to himself idk why then posted 2-3 videos about the game for a april fool joke thing THEN completly died after that for no reason

[@png32]

Wasn't that JynX? IIRC he is now working on Len'en

[@JonathanKanelis]

Indeed, that is JynX, who went on to work on the Len’en games instead afterwards. I think the reasoning behind it is that since he is copying the patterns, dialogue and gameplay, even though everything else was technically his assets, it could constitute copyright infringement.

[@grahamholbrook9112]

I really wanted to play them too, the pc98 games hurt my eyes so i dont like playing them

[@misery_shun]

Yeah that's JynX (repeating point) There are more stuff here, such as demo version of Re:PoDD (fools rush in, which was also published in April fools) and video of Rin Satsuki's battle using BPoHC engine (the engine used for their own Len'en project) At least it's not the shitshow that was shown in the video lol. It's not like JynX tried to make money out of these remasters (not counting soundtracks) without TSA's permission On tangentially related note, while JynX (Trick Nostalgie) holds the rights to Len'en project, the og Len'en was made by doujin circle Lapxus (who consisted of JynX's "upperclassmen") called "Emergency Everyday" which was basically Touhou but with guys who are self-inserts of circle's members. There exists a footage of the game, but that's about it (JynX said the game was almost finished) - no one knows why game wasn't released in public, there wasn't even a demo released with that video. Daijin (the leader of Lapxus) did eventually gave rights to JynX under the condition that JynX will keep the name (Japanese title at least) and that JynX will have to erase the trace of characters and locations, thus giving birth to current Len'en (which imo was a better decision, Len'en has a much more immersive lore while EmEv was just about dudes fucking around in 2D world). Suffice to say that EmEv is dead and is part of lost media. There is a footage of remaster of the third stage of the game made by "Retrograde Road" (formerly "Team Gaijin Alex") using GameMakerStudio, but as of now, the game itself wasn't released, only remastered soundtrack. And while JynX had been in contact with Daijin who served as a playtester, as of 2021 to the current day - Daijin went under radar completely. So yeah... It's not the first time it happened kek

[@misery_shun]

Btw here's a footage of Emergency Everyday kzbin.info/www/bejne/bZXVZ5eem5emb7s

[@SasNostalgia]

Instead of being in smash, Raymoo should be added for the next Mortal Kombat game... Also new 2hu video, yay.

[@drinkyourmilk1645]

As cool as that sounds, it would be traumatizing to see Reimu getting her heart ripped out or decapitated

[@ultimapower6950]

No i have better idea We should add Yukari After all her gaps could make for interesting fatalities

[@atwistedb]

@@drinkyourmilk1645 and Shaggy doing it too

[@ilyasbasuki3207]

Mokou/Kaguya would be perfect for an MK style game. They could get brutally murdered and still be fine afterwards.

[@pollopezmuñoz-y3m]

or maybe how about in the next upcoming future super smash bros game, all the touhou characters will be added as brand new fighting-characters?

[@marudayo-]

and now years later a really impressive trailer for a Touhou platform fighter called Touhou Fractured Transience was shown which has really nice sprite work and music. Its really worth it to check it out

[@xb70valkyriech]

As far as I understand, ZUN is totally cool with fangames, as long as you credit him with for Touhou itself and declare you're a fangame, you don't steal assets from the official games, and offer your game on a platform that Touhou is offered on (e.g. steam). Given this, I don't see the issue here with needing permission. Is the issue because the crowdfunded, or was this game being planned before ZUN had his current policies in place? I can find the source for ZUN's policies if needed.

[@Mima_the_vengeful_spirit]

What did put a halt to the game was the crowdfounding was done before Zun gave permission. If they had the greenlight to make the game before, it would be completely different. in a nutshell: you're free to do any sort of fangames based on Touhou Project, under the strict rules that are: 1) Zun must be aware about your fangame project before you actually make it. 2) Zun / Team Shanghai Alice must always be credited in any fangames.

[@xb70valkyriech]

@@Mima_the_vengeful_spirit alright, point 1 is what's confusing to me. I've never heard of that before. Is that just for games or for other derivative works as well?

[@Mima_the_vengeful_spirit]

@@xb70valkyriech it appears to be quite recent (maybe due to Moriya Shrine incident?)

[@xb70valkyriech]

Alright I found three sources, I'm modifying the links since Susan keeps shadowbanning my comments. Just delete the spaces, and replace slash and dot with the symbols. 1. From 2011: first guidelines, probably out of date by now: kourindou dot exblog dot jp slash 14218252 slash 2. From team Shanghai Alice official website. More up to date, but still hasn't been updated since 2019. The link that supposedly links to the derivative guidelines is dead. www16 dot big dot or dot jp slash ~zun slash html slash sbbs dot html 3. The most recent guidelines, from 2020. These are the ones I take as current: touhou-project dot news slash guidelines_en slash My conclusions: I'm going based off the most recent guidelines. From a legal perspective, these are written/translated horribly, and if I theoretically took this to court against ZUN, and he tried to defend himself with this document, then ZUN would probably lose. However, he does say if you're "a legal person creating a game as a business activity, then contact [ZUN]". Which would squarely apply to this studio and this game in the video. However, I'm not sure based on this video alone if Touhou smash was created before or after these guidelines were implemented.

[@Mima_the_vengeful_spirit]

@@xb70valkyriech well, the game was originally developped in 2015...it appears the 2011 guidelines would have been used then

[@hoppefrosk]

I remember this. I even tried to warn the developer when he posted the first video showcasing the project and the kickstarter for it. His responses were so childishly contrarian and argumentative that it was obvious that the project would fail. He, among other things, tried to argue that ZUN's guidelines wouldn't apply to him *because he wasn't Japanese/in Japan.* Basically every concern I brought up, from the crowdfunding and the spirit of doujin culture, to possible copyright issues and the legality of derivative works in Japan (Look up "Author's Rights" under Japanese copyright law, and you'd understand), were handwaved away, claiming that they had everything under control. At some point you just have to step back and settle for watching the ensuing trainwreck from a safe distance. Honestly, their past projects were sub-par at best, so I don't think much was lost, either way. It looked, to me, like a cheap attempt at a crowdfunding cashgrab, using the popularity of Touhou and Smash Bros to sucker people out of their money.

[@Suwawako]

Haha

[@TheRockMouse]

I got involved in the argument with the developer when all this went down. Feels like years ago. We found him editing articles on one of the wikis in regards to ZUN's guidelines I think it was... He edited something on the wiki. I remember that much. Aside from that, he spent a ton of time backpedaling on why ZUN was wrong about his own guidelines, made video responses to accusations, etc. Guidelines aside, I don't think it would have turned out well anyway. Both the designs and their gameplay philosophy were pretty terrible. People only started taking notice of the game when a gameplay trailer was showcased and mostly found it 'lacking,' in kinder words. From there the crowdfunding aspect became a lot more public upon which ZUN got involved. You could honestly say that the trailer doomed them, because otherwise it all might've fallen under people's radar long enough for nobody to bat an eye.

[@colticide]

Those were some crazy days indeed 😒

[@Landmasters]

"Wrong about his own guidelines" This guy effectively says go ham with my IP and do as you please, just get my blessing and give credit. Compared to almost all copyright which take up the most of the budget in securing rights and this guy still found a way to get upset, fucking hell.

[@tristama_youtube]

i had some similar arguments with the dev about balancing in anotber game she was making. There was an area where an enemy would chace you and youd have to crawl through this hole to escape, but the wall was short enough for it to hop over so it would just cut you off at both sides by going back and forth, so you couldnt get out without taking damage, and she just dismissed me pointing that out as a problem and her argument was essentially "well have you made a game before?", not really saying why letting the enemy behavior be that way is a good thing, just an excuse why my feedback doesnt mean shit, even though you dont need to know how to fly a plane to tell when someone is doing it badly.

[@XquizetBlix]

I love how the background gameplay is just Komachi wiping the floor with every Touhou character

[@PDubbler]

You have a good eye for Touhou controversies. Would you at all be familiar with the Cookie community? That Touhou subculture has so many weird characters, memes, inside jokes and controversies that you would have to make an entire series to explain it all.

[@Suwawako]

I got a plan for that

[@akiradkcn]

Cookie?

[@PDubbler]

@@akiradkcn cookie is a subculture that came from a Touhou voice drama called "Marisa and Alice's Cookie Kiss" that had amateurish voices, arr and animation. The Japanese internet made fun of this video in a "so bad it's good" way with remixes of their own, much like KZbin Poop in the states. If you search for these videos, beware. Half of them have clips from Japanese gay vids. A very effective way to keep out the normies.

[@DsiakMondala]

@@PDubbler Naides

[@ironmaster6496]

@@Suwawako Awesome can't wait since that's a rabbit hole i can't really understand

[@Littlefighter1911]

That's why ZUN's policies are mostly centered around Doujin in Japan and not directly the world. As I understood from this video the amount of miscommunication is just too damn high.

[@soya_kitchens]

I was there for this whole debacle, outside of the boring forum stuff I really wish there was a happy ending to this story, even if it still went down the route of Nansei releasing instead. I actually remembered and went back to it a few months ago. FromSoySauce is basically dead now, though, and the only brother who still works on games is doing something completely different, now. I think there was a statement somewhere that Nansei is effectively dead, too. Very unfortunate.

[@tristama_youtube]

Hey, im actually close friends with the developer behind this. Shes still doing well, and still making games actually (although, under a new company name). Shes definitely improved alot since this, and shes doing pretty well off now, if you all wanted any closure or updates on the matter. The whole TSSB thing was a big mistake she wants to move on from and do better stuff with original ideas, and i think shes doing good on that.

[@catseatmeowmix690]

We have rivals of aether. You have peter griffin and toutou characters on one screen.

[@JonathanKanelis]

I think my comment bugged out so I’m going to try posting another, shorter one. I do remember this “drama” because my own community, centered around Nansei Project (a touhou spinoff music series made by LENK64) asked them to not use the name “Nansei Doujin Spirit (as mentioned at 7:15). They agreed to that but kept using the name “NS” for their devlogs as a placeholder, until their full work was eventually deleted from the internet.

[@AspergerPlays]

Ah yes, our favourites from PoFV, such as: Medicine Melancony Iki Shiki Yamazanadu Trully.

[@HyperVanilo]

Created by our lord and saviour Zhan

[@kadapunny]

Man, I remember this incident. I was so hyped because of all the cool air combat mechanics. It looked great, and really the only issues were pre-development.

[@jettlucashayes8508]

Well there’s a new touhou platform fighter in the works called touhou refraction

[@breezeless_7665]

I ain’t a touhou fan, but I’m always down to try platform fighters. We still have rivals workshop tho, there are some people who created touhou characters and they are amazing

[@bunnysoup6858]

A lot of them are ripped from the fighting games though. But the characters that aren't are amazing to play as!

[@victorvirgili4447]

Reisen fumo is a blast to play as

[@JonathanKanelis]

About 7:14, the Nansei Project community, an unrelated Touhou spin-off music project, contacted Saijer and his team when he rebranded what would become the base for a new game as “Nansei Doujin Spirit” as we wanted them to avoid using the name. They did agree to it, although they kept the title as “NS” on their future videos, before taking everything down (I believe in late 2016?). I thought sharing the anecdote would be interesting! If I remember well at this point, it was supposed to be a game with its own original characters (I remember the main one being a character that was based around using paint as her ability).

[@kurovah5475]

I remember this project. Kinda wish the creator kept their videos of it archived on their channel somewhere.

[@lemonapric]

1:34 “Melon-kin-knee” 💀💀💀

[@uboa8060]

I'm not even Japanese and I can tell when a touhou fan is trying to put on a Japanese accent when pronouncing character names.

[@Austin-kt7ky]

I hope Sayuri Artsy shows up to add her piece. Would like to hear her input.

[@Xxsoda_drinker_pro_fanxX]

The creators of Fumo cart racing should make super Fumo bros.

[@tonyhakston536]

Sounds more like a mario clone than a smash clone.

[@SoftwareNeos]

This just reminds me of the tons of failed platform fighters that were on kickstarter. Its depressing

[@DanieluYoshikoto]

Ah, I remember when this unfolded back in the day. I was swepped up in the hype. Though I do have a few corrections on some points and some tidbits not mentioned in the video: ( Wall of Text! ) The "Wii U" version was actually a misunderstanding. yes, lemme explain... So the devs were interviewed at an japanese indie website due to their previous game which were made in Unity iirc (way before it was seen as a shovelware-developement tool), with a small blurb of them talking about their next project being the Touhou Smash game... however, right after that the article talks about this studio's game coming to Wii U soon. This sadly was misread as Touhou Smash releasing on a console, which was the twitter post that Zun reponded to with "This isn't good." The game was gonna switch models for the characters later in developement, going from the more western styled designs (which made the game stand out) to generic MikuMikuDance esque Models that alot of indie devs were using (which made it blend in, but generic in my opinion). However... that didn't happen with game developement halting. Similar to Yandere Dev, FSS did release semi-regular update videos of their progress, sadly can't remember everything other than each member having a character and warbly voice filter. It seems the developement of the game had taken a toll on the main programmer as he said that he "locked (him)self in (his) room" to get a new version of the game done. As someone who casually worked on his own indie game in his spare time after work before, I know the feeling of burnout more than I want to admit. It becomes especially bad around a set deadline, but I can imagine it gets really tiring when there is also socials like Forums and Twitter to keep track off. The moment where one just shuts themselves in and drowns in their work can really happen. The C&D Situation was the weirdest. The Dev constantly responded on the forum with "We got an e-mail, we don't know what it says", instead of going "We got an E-mail, we are currently getting it translated." still hopeful that they had the O.k. But one final thing happened before the game got fully cancelled... (after C&D, during move to new IP) the main dev released a 30 minute video... in which they ranted and tried debunking the accusations, vented out their frustration with programming (as I mentioned 2 paragraphs ago), pointing fingers at a chinese indie dev using Touhou characters in an indie dev game fair over in Asia, (don't remember if japanese or china, sorry) in a "why are they allowed, but I am not" and accusing ZUN of being anti-foreigner. (IF, I remember correctly, it's been years since I remember the exact phrasing) Let me reitterate: THE DEV accused ZUN of playing favourites (japanese) and trying to expose him for not being a "single man dev team", aswell as Team Shanghai Alice being owned by another company to keep up the lie about "one-man dev". Imagine all that, with Pheonix Wright music in the back throughout most of that video. small tangent about the "not a single dev..." thing. Yeah, shock oh shock, Toby Fox had help with Undertale aswell. (Credits are there for a reason.) but with how big touhou had gotten... obviously ZUN had to made a company to protect his IP and had close friend and legal advice. It also seems to be a big misinformation that ended up blending "oh you can do whatever, if it is doujinshi" and "doujinshi is just japanese indie". Doujinshi *is* indie, but yet completely different how they see it. Oh yeah and this video ended up including doxxing the location of the "secret company" and another member of Team Shanghai Alice, which surprise surprise... was someone on the Forums who gave FSS advice to NOT do the crowdfunding/indiegogo... STRANGE, isn't it? Yeah, essentially it was common knowledge on the forum but instead of taking the hint and rethinking things, going full steam ahead on the crowdfunding (which is seen by japanese devs similar to investors and "getting paid for work that hasn't been finished"), they kind dug themselves a deep hole that could have only been escaped with an exceptionally well made game... but while I don't doubt the dev would have had the skill for it... they way they handled the situation ended up being the final nail in the coffin, (and this was after they started making the switch to unique IP). I do not want this read as an attack on the video maker. As someone coming in years later just seeing the snippits left over on the touhouwiki and shrinemaiden forum posts, there is definitely alot that this video was unable to cover, such as documing the pieces and snipits that are left now. I hope this info helps round what was shown in the video alot more, since oh boy quite alot more happened back then. Kinda sad when a project becomes too ambitious, maybe it was shown off too early and generated too much hype? I can't tell. If I were to make a big project like this, I would definitely keep it hidden until it is decent way in so it had time to be something more solid than a 1-character/1-stage demo, maybe like 4c,3s atleast? I'd also be contacting ZUN at that point in developement directly with a quick gameplay demo video to ask for approval and potential questions about what would be o.k. (like, releasing on steam was a big No-no for a while aswell for Touhou Fangames as it was seen as a storefront instead of an doujinshi-shop).

[@anon4305]

Do you have a link to the video the developer made? I am very curious.

[@Suwawako]

Check my pastebin

[@colticide]

I remember that expose video too! I remember being an idiot having no idea what the abbreviation for the Indiegogo was but trying to help out till I saw the way things were handled was not in the right way. God I was so stupid back then.

[@RoseSupreme]

Such a shame this failed. I would've *LOVED* to see this become a thing and potentially be up there with the fighting games played to this day.

[@dust-tatari5979]

Dear Suwawako There was once a failed MELTY BLOOD Smash fangame i found twas a doujin game called Queen Busters kinda off topic from the vid, but i felt like i should say it

[@lolqwful]

I’m glad I’m not the only one who remembers this whole ordeal

[@forhisneutralspecialhewiel2295]

Man just imagine if Raymoo was in the real deal! She would be the first indie game character to be actually playable (not counting Steve cuz he's owned by Microsoft). Plus we would get a bunch of Touhou music, and the best part, there could be an Utsuho Mii Gunner costume! 0:14 also that Youmu plush is just way too adorable :3

[@zeikolemonde8635]

Well, at least there's still Fantasy Crescendo... Though at its current pace, who knows when it'll get somewhere.

[@mayzedongthought1917]

As some one who plays melee competitively (at least locally atm) and loves touhou, this is sad :(

[@squiithefishslandoftrash6476]

Thankyou for making a video about this subject. It's been awhile since I seen the original gameplay. it looked really fun, all I can remember about the debacle is watching the FSS channel every time they uploaded something and a lot of it was dart the Droid just talking about his character iirc. I never actually tried FSS's other games but glasswing looked pretty fun. I can't recall whether or not this is accurate but wasn't there a build released/leaked at one time? I think I have false memories playing lmao

[@yabusamehoulen7636]

Also guys i seen lots of Touhou characters in Super Smash Bros Crusade Modding Community Game. In first version were only having 4 Touhou Characters Reimu Marisa Sakuya and Cirno. And Later versions having more characters.

[@Oddyzation]

I 'rember that project. Good vid, m8.

[@zyrothmusic]

flying fumo Good video as always! I really wanna see that twitter post ZUN made, cause that really cracked me up.

[@TazwomanteC]

funny i actually got a copy of the game on my pc lmao. Long story short i was in a team in the french touhou community where a demo of this game was given to us since we were making the website for it. the project died ofc and i left the team but i still got the game and show it to friends once in a while

[@Suwawako]

Interesting

[@MALAY_TENGU]

Would you mind to upload your gameplay on yt?

[@TazwomanteC]

@@MALAY_TENGU why not, i can do that

[@ireallydontknowifiamhonest]

I know this video isn't about Luna Nights or any of the other official fighters, but man do these games have eye candy sprite work, it just looks so good

[@weisscircal3748]

I remember following FSS even after the controversy, I also remember that they added a Yandere-Chan skin from Yandere Simulator (Which will never be released, talking about Yandere Sim, not the skin) in one of their other games.

[@tristama_youtube]

i remember that! i was actually a promo artist for fss around that time, i still have some of the art i made for the videos and stuff but the videos themselves are looong gone.

[@weisscircal3748]

@@tristama_youtube And I can't find any reuploads/archives of their stuff.

[@tristama_youtube]

@@weisscircal3748 im sure she has some of it still, be she views like, 90% of her FSS stuff as like, forbidden, to be forgotten forever. Her newer stuff is still pretty good though.

[@weisscircal3748]

@@tristama_youtube Okay.

[@MarkStillPlays]

0:31 thats an actual good tf2 map with alot of eastereggs, play it if you can guys

[@FumoReimuGaming]

I finally found Quality Touhou content, subscribing

[@ruinthe]

i know nothing about touhou but this video was entertaining, keep up the work

[@HyperVanilo]

Touhou is a bullet hell shooter series created by one guy named Jun'ya Ōta

[@Suwawako]

Ganyu

[@ruinthe]

@@Suwawako ganyu.

[@ruinthe]

@@HyperVanilo i see thank you

[@ReverseCh]

Every time I see the word Smash, I can feel something bad is gonna happen

[@Ayahuasca98]

Poor Reimu will never be in smash

[@jlever]

The second I heard "Wii U eshop" I knew that things were about to go downhill

[@colticide]

I'm embarrassed by how much I show up in this lol. I was so optimistic back then but had little to no idea about crowdfunding. Let's just say I try my best to know I have all the info first before I fangasm over a fangame that may or may not see the light of day.

[@Mister20.GroxLand]

0:07 All Stars!? Mario Madness!!

[@noranekosparks4177]

It was crazy. While the drama was going around, a common rumor was that Nintendo were the ones calling for a cease because of the game's name. It was sad the project got cancelled. But this was a firm lesson in communicating cross culturally. Fangames are still a confusing topic now.

[@hainamnguyen1121]

:3 Nice video :3 have you played Touhou Big Big Battle ? It's pretty fun :3

[@otrot-55peruano81]

This is the first time I've heard of this project, and it's too bad it ended up being cancelled, oh well 0:43 Auch *explodes*

[@ZebraOnYourNose]

i always wondered what happened to this

[@veryredfumoze]

Hmm... What if I do it

[@sonicx4gyt281]

Yes you should

[@jvts8916]

All that stuff about dedicated wavedash buttons and Adventure Mode makes the project sound too good to be true. Nowadays, I imagine not too many indie devs would go for this concept, because AoCF is available on Switch.

[@amiserablelittlepileofsecr856]

we need the full opening

[@Archedgar]

WTF? this would have been amazing.

[@dontsayflan4315]

Lol I actually funded this proj years ago. A lot of drama happened.

[@Touhou20246]

Ugh if this game didn’t get killed then I would not have be angry about reimu not being added to super smash bro’s ultimate and have to just suck it up and just pretend to be okay with sora in super smash bro’s ultimate!!😓🥺😤😡😥😢😥😭😢😩😫

[@Suwawako]

wow

[@grahamholbrook9112]

I mean sora is hype too, 4th favorite video game franchise and 9th favorite thing besides most other things i like more like touhou 8 imperishable night

[@Touhou20246]

Graham Holbrook look I just did not want sora in super smash bro’s ultimate because I was worried what Disney would want from Nintendo due to the fact that I was really worried that Disney would either try to buy Nintendo plus it also doesn’t help that I feel like that Nintendo and Sakurai himself is just pandering to the Disney and kingdom hearts fandoms as well as the fact that it also doesn’t help that the only character I got that I wanted in super smash bro’s ultimate since super smash bro’s melee and brawl was princess daisy and they made me feel like the fact that their was no touhou project themed sprit event or mii costume caused me to assume that they were going to have Reimu from the touhou project games as the last dlc character.😅😓😑😔🥺

[@otrot-55peruano81]

This is the firts time i heard about this project, and it's too bad that it ended up being cancelled, oh well 0:43 Auch *explodes*

[@Izayoink_Saccuy]

I would like a touhougus instead of touhou smash

[@Suwawako]

No

[@Izayoink_Saccuy]

Touhougus

[@hyde_stopStealingMyUsername]

1:39 did you mean "the only touhou game I've never played and will never play"?

[@Unoriginality_Incarnate_stupid]

Nintendo: "We hate you"

[@Unoriginality_Incarnate_stupid]

Meaning this game was screwed no matter what

[@tjlnintendo]

@@Unoriginality_Incarnate_stupid I mean… Nintendo doesn’t own the genre itself… so they can’t do anything about it.

[@Unoriginality_Incarnate_stupid]

@@tjlnintendothere was a platform fighter that came out before smash, right?

[@Unoriginality_Incarnate_stupid]

Well there was... I guess I'm just asking the name

[@tjlnintendo]

@@Unoriginality_Incarnate_stupid Sorta. There was a game called the foxies or something, but they are still very different games gameplay wise.

[@otaking3582]

We already have Scarlet Weather Rhapsody, what more do we need from a Touhou fighting game?

[@angelvazquezguerrero7726]

RIP Touhou Souls crowfunding

[@MedsieLovr]

So there is still hope for the project?

[@Neobrim]

Fumo vs Fumo.

[@Nieveria]

medicine melonkinnie my beloved

[@abarette_]

3:52 blrbrlbrlbr based translate

[@DonKrieg-382]

their Gamestudio is named soy sauce 🤣🤣

[@bedescarlet]

is there any archived footage of this game?

[@Suwawako]

I'm not sure. I gotta ask reddit for that one

[@Redxyellow1]

Damn, I remember this

[@kagechu2005BISVG]

I'm glad I didn't play this game. I would feel ridiculously stupid if I did.

[@Prince_Of_Fish]

why did they have to do it wrong? this game would have been great to have on steam.

[@Xxsoda_drinker_pro_fanxX]

Super fumo brothers.

[@hrkinezz4419ez]

if anyone want to play the game i kept it there: (drive.google.com/file/d/1McN3yaHEPvj_UK-nFhRovtIILTr1Rnww/view?usp=sharing) its the most updated build btw ㅤ ㅤ ㅤ y e s it looks like a scratch thing with stoled blender assets

[@50kekk]

1:34 lmao ok

[@cooleecoolee9504]

Of course greedy zun would cancel the project he doesn't care about his fans he just cares about the money he might be turning to EA games soon

[@prismaticmaniac2084]

That literally couldn't be farther from the truth

[@tjlnintendo]

You are trolling right? Zun is easily one of the most community friendly creators out there. Super relaxed with fan creations. All he asks are just basic normal things like giving credit and asking for permission if you are going to make money off of HIS work.

[@cooleecoolee9504]

@@tjlnintendo My brother in christ, this is 1 year ago. This was also the time where he attempted to shut down Moriya Shrine because it was giving the Touhou Fans easy access to a wide array of Touhou games which boosted it's popularity by a bunch

[@AutopsyTurvyy]

I’m so happy that the future of smash bros isn’t a fucking tohou game

[@mechadeka]

Nintendo Fans Try Not to be Toxic Challenge:

[@AutopsyTurvyy]

@@mechadeka yeah idk what i was on a year ago

[@izzymosley1970]

I don't know how I feel about what happened to this game sure ZUN is well within his legal rights to take down the game but I don't know if that was the moral thing to do seems like a very interesting topic to debate though.

[@tjlnintendo]

Imo its morally right to take down someone trying to make money off of someone’s creation without permission. Remember, a fundraiser was used. Money was involved without the permission of the original creator (ZUN) It is very IMMORAL to make money from someone else’s creation without permission of the original creator. Zun is super community friendly. All he asks is for people to follow his simple guidelines.

[@virtuallylightblue]

bro i beg remove the first part of the video

[@Suwawako]

No

[@virtuallylightblue]

@@Suwawako Yes