Suzuki Jimny Brake Limited Slip Differential in action vs previous generation

That Other Motoring Show

[@DaBrute]

The engagement seems really abrupt. That's a lot of time spinning before the system figures out what to do

[@p.o2697]

But it's sommethigs,and consedering the jimny's price...

[@pipeborrero]

I mean... yes... while it's the same principle Toyota and Jeep's systems are way better, I guess they've had more time to perfect it and their cars usually count with way more power to play with, meaning that there's less need for aggressive responses.

[@BertieJasokie]

@@pipeborrero Also more expensive and an extra physical component to go wrong while this is programmed into the ECU with few special parts. Keeping in mind a clutch plate LSD is 4-8x the price of an open diff.

[@pipeborrero]

@@BertieJasokie Totally! I simply bough an ARB diff locker and forgot about TC, it now crawls next to modded jeeps with no issue other than it's smaller size

[@dumanimjo609]

The LSD seems to have a very big downside in terms of off-road control. I would hate to be in a tight situation and have to rely on the LSD to smoothly get me out of it. Might end up being thrown off of a cliff as a result of it causing the car to jump forward. Would have been great for Suzuki to just add a locker on the rear and call it a day.

[@fopish]

Dumani Mjo it's an open differential tho, limited slip controlled by the breaks. Which sucks for slippery conditions, I'll admit.

[@manugatzi6158]

Something to do with the cost..

[@stephenedwards7769]

Manuel Gatzi it's to do with meeting the latest safety standards, designed for on road driving.

[@manugatzi6158]

@Kamil Korzeniowski can never happen.. target market is for on road user. Those seeking diff lockers, front lockers might just be .05 percent of the whole customers. Portal axles.. and you're pushing it.

[@megarafjogos]

it only works when you are in 4 low, the old jimny had the sme tech... it isn't in 4 low in this video...

[@eroffroad5438]

The whole traction control lurching is pretty normal for any brand, it is scary, give me live axle with flex and lockers any day.

[@clooperman3745]

Land Rover system is a LOT better.

[@fabiomotoriitalia4440]

Also the old model with esp and in 4wd-l had a limited slip function of the differential operated by brakes.

[@craigsparks1442]

Well would help if they engaged 4x4 on the older Jimny, could see there was only traction on the rear axle

[@spoonyspoonicus4648]

You clearly have no idea how a 4x4 without diff locks work. The Front right tire is spinning. Most 4x4`s that have no diff lock or traction control will only spin one wheel per axle if it is off the ground. The power always goes to the easiest wheel to turn with an open diff.

[@nathankoroush7918]

Sucks we dont get these in the USA.

[@keithbrettell2058]

Or Canada.

[@union310]

Your own car industries fault I am afraid

[@vandelayindustrial]

The Amarok front diff has a proper brake lock differential that mimics exactly how a mechanically locked diff works. There is no crazy spinning of front wheels, if you have a front wheel in the air it will rotate at the exact same speed as the wheel on the ground. They all work via the ABS system, it just comes down to how Suzuki has programmed it and they have opted for this now too common crazy solution of spinning a wheel until grip is found. Very easy to break a CV with how Suzuki has programmed their brake lock differential system.

[@bernardhossmoto]

It needs lockers but I guess they are available at 3rd parties.

[@SirSpinalColumn]

bernard_hossmoto probably not yet but they will be for sure

[@server1ok]

It's traction control, not limited slip diff

[@BertieJasokie]

Its Electronic brake assisted LSD, Engages the spinning wheels brake.

[@server1ok]

@@BertieJasokie That's a form of traction control, in the words standard context

[@BertieJasokie]

@@server1ok TC has a lot more variables. This is very simplified. Probably running off the TC systems but works independently, it works with non TC cars too. Just a cheap alternative to an MLD.

[@server1ok]

@@BertieJasokie Specifically. The traction control that controls the wheels when the vehicles is stationary/low speed is routed through a different box or a different software, but it's usually the same mechanical link as the traction control that manipulates the wheels when at moderate speed, hence, I'm calling it traction control and nothing else. Why ? Because I don't care about industry names and commercial jargon. In a common language, this is about traction and I said that this vehicle can't physically link the left/right side. To add. I don't like modern cars that have infinite options for various traction control that most consumers don't understand, never asked for and ( sometimes ) can't disengage.

[@marty3469]

Needs more suspension travel for a start

[@danielecigo3987]

The traction control system is the same (ALLGRIP PRO). In the old model did not enter low gears and then does not work. They have to show that the new model is better ...👎

[@geepuller1]

I'd prefer something mechanical. I had a gen 4 Mitsubishi pajero which had the electronic brake/lsd system. It was pretty unpredictable off road. Youd start to slip and then gas it and then it would lurch forward, just like the suzuki here.

[@jeep2003]

My old Jeeps would twist in half on those ramps lol

[@DaveWuzHere]

I'd like to think my d max has enough flex to keep all 4 wheels on the ground during this test

[@ButchE30M3S14]

This is not an LSD. This is traction control by braking.

[@ThatOtherMotoringShow]

Officially it's called "Brake Limited Slip Differential" as per Suzuki

[@ButchE30M3S14]

J E LSD works with disc with a certain pressure applied: 25% 40% etc. With an LSD once the pressure from the plates break you got a freewheeling tire. Im a pro offroader. You should be better off schooling yourself on the technical stuff.

[@je1966]

ButchE30M3S14 And you should study some education. If I say that what you say is correct, why do you give me an explanation? and with that final comment...

[@je1966]

ButchE30M3S14 I have not removed anything, you are inventing it to manipulate.

[@je1966]

ButchE30M3S14 I supported your answer to BizNews Motoring with a "right!" no more!!! I do not understand any of your later answers.

[@4stroker]

its called traction control

[@jeffebner6701]

A locker on the rear would be safer and not jump forward.

[@slimjimmy693]

My Tacoma would jump that.

[@lazn9863]

i just crashed my beloved niva i m getting one of these

[@adriandejesus2945]

Waooo that's my Little truck

[@thebeerhunter817]

Traction control sucks it needs a rear locker

[@JuanAbuchite]

Al Suzuki del modelo anterior, le das un par de tirones al freno de mano, y sale igualmente.

[@ninoloso]

This car is very capable, but this test is a bit above its pay grade.

[@moxy909]

Doesn't look very controlled

[@karn506]

But LSD in real time is somewhat like so much different from what you are actually thinking about it.. Wait.. what is actually lsd?

[@prozac1127]

Too many slips to activate. I have a duster and brand locking 4wd works almost like a mechanical locker. Even a simple turn causes wheels to turn at the same speed creating screeching sound.

[@juanvidalmonsalve9922]

Me da la impresion que el jimny negro no va con la doble traccion puesta...y el blanco si...deberian ser ambos con la doble puesta....

[@pratyushbiswas7582]

I Like non of them ,i like the old sj series,just give them a diff lock and say buy buy to Jeep Wrangler

[@JMaier-uh5ng]

I miss a difflock :(((((

[@diegozevallos9630]

Sin los bloqueos de diferencial no es nada

[@peterhuffam1006]

Nope, I don’t like that “brake differential” system - unfortunately, I have it on my 2023 Jeep Grand Cherokee 4xe. I’m looking for Eaton Trutrac LSDs, in both front and rear Diffs, to avoid that power surge hazard that was demonstrated so clearly in the video.

[@oscarbear7498]

Why give jimny lds, the car already acting crazy

[@megacap55]

They previous model had an tiny engine and almost no torque and the newer one have an bigger engine the improved engine torque caused have better off road capabilities, the old one is a joke having such small engine get 4x4 capabilities if 50% is the 4x4 capabilities and the other fifty percent is the engine torque

[@calambres6614]

Hmmmmm kinda jerky and takes to long spinning to realise it needs to lock up I say add a auto and 4HI-4Lo and 2wd Hi now I'm in control

[@Abhitips224]

Oh for God's sake just get some diff lockers.