The Top 10 Biggest Changes From The Latest

[@charlestwoo]

its actualy well documented in game design that the sound of a weapon can heavily influance how strong the players think it is.

[@PhantasmalBlast]

I think that’s why the both diligences have felt so underwhelming. They don’t sound potent at all.

[@Colonel-Sigma]

DATS BEKUZ IT KANT BE DAKKA IF IT DON'T ZOUND LOIK DAKKA EVEN DA DUMEST GROT NOZE DAT HUMIE

[@TheOneAndOnlyMooses]

​@@Colonel-SigmaI'm surprised that KZbin can translate green skin perfectly

[@omarsabeur9039]

I always imagine the Diligence-CS was like a PSG-1, I want a hypersonic crack.

[@Gioao2811]

I don’t like the pew pew sound. Feel more annoying and weaker

[@ecguy6]

The crossbow has finally become so viable, I wanted it to be good and this patch has done it justice in my opinion.

[@Bryanneo1]

All it really needs now is a laser for first person ballistic shield usage

[@Florkl]

I totally had forgotten it’s one-handed now. Definitely running a crossbow/shield build against bots. I tried eruptor last night and it was awesome until it sucked

[@redfish6549]

It was viable before, now it's one of the best weapon and easier to kill yourself with

[@ClumsyDrow]

Crossbow is excellent. It's good on the bugs as well.

[@-Arv]

​@@redfish6549 Agreed, they buffed it a while back ago and I used it alot, especially when it could close bugholes and fabricators. It seems to be monstrous now.

[@adamdurham16]

Man I’m just thankful I can change my loadouts to weapons I have had this entire time and never got to use.. it’s like a new game for now. Different combos of stratagems and weapons finally.. I was sooooo bored.

[@xxstylinonyaxx2622]

That thermite change was colossal

[@commentsection-chan]

People don't realize the actual damage is only 3 times now. Did 1,150 damage before iirc. Now it does around 3000. The burn time was DOT

[@marcotheman6886]

It’s like mini pocket stratagem. Completely erases anything it sticks too. I love it!🥰

[@Misfiring89]

@@commentsection-chan They removed the burn damage, now its just a long delay for the explosion.

[@commentsection-chan]

@Misfiring89 you sure? I've dropped boys before it exploded before solo. Also had a fab blow up before it did.

[@GabidenZhazylbekov]

​@Misfiring89 they didn't remove dot dmg because if you throw it at Charger soft part he is gonna make dmg sound

[@Fishrokk]

They said they "removed recoil" from the Sickle. Which I thought was funny because I didn't think it had any to speak of before.

[@hippoace]

statwise, it had 1 recoil 😂

[@obeseninja4]

Laser weapons got such a shot in the arm this patch. The scythe feels so much better to use. Hell, even the dagger is usable now. Fucking amazing

[@SwanyPlaysGames]

I've been using the dagger a lot now. It is such a good secondary weapon.

[@obeseninja4]

​@@SwanyPlaysGames gonna be hard to put away the grenade pistol, but yeah dagger is a great option depending on primary/strategem I've also been using recoilless a lot more. The at changes made that so much better

[@Saaru606]

dagger is so good now. both bug and robot side

[@saltpoweredrobot5625]

@@SwanyPlaysGames Before this update, running the Crossbow and Dagger with the Ballistic shield was an "okay" strategy, but now it is straight up amazing. Use Dagger to kill Troopers and Crossbow for everything else! And if you run out of Crossbow ammo, the Dagger has a very respectable TTK on Devastator Heads. Amazing combo, and I cannot recommend it more for people looking to try a new build.

[@Sp1n1985]

Dagger getting respect finally

[@justinwalker4037]

Gotta say, the audio department was cookin' this patch. The audio changes to the sickle and scorcher are satisfying, and the hiss from the sterilizer really feels good.

[@GamesDiddley]

If you haven’t heard, the bubble shield had an audio change as well. The rounds hitting off it sound epic

[@cochonkg]

The biggest thing from this patch is that there are so many powerful loadouts you can make. Build diversity is incredible now. The thermite alone unlocks so much build diversity because you can use a grenade to reliaby coutner large enemies.

[@theqwerton830]

No prema stun granade, yay

[@Salmon_Toastie]

Yeah I’ve been using the entire flame battlepass as a Loadout and it’s so good.

[@dankachilles9356]

Sickle is good because of the general debuffs to armor thats all. Not a placebo effect it's just indirectly buffed, as you correctly stated in the beginning. Glad everyone is having fun again love this fucking game. DEMOCRACY!!!!

[@shizw1919]

Loving the new sound of it. Sounds more like an energy weapon now

[@dankachilles9356]

@@shizw1919 Saaame can't get enough of it. Feels sooo good and switching between that and the heavy laser will essentially have you never reloading while constantly sending down dps via direct laser and burn effect forever lol. I swear I never reload ESPECIALLY when I second the dagger. Cycling between the three of them I never have to worry. I carry thermites for heavies, the laser dog, 500k, and eagle airstrike/other depending on mission requirements.

[@BlissBatch]

Engineer Armor is now pretty crazy, with the recoil reduction on the buffed HMG, and 5 thermites.

[@coreyvaughn-patterson2668]

Throw in rocket pods and a crowd clear strategem of your choice and hug with supply pack is a versatility god

[@camper5579]

Ive been using the gas grenades and supplypacks and had so much fun against bugs

[@johnames9253]

I've been loving the thermite grenades for a week and you only just now made the connection for me to Engineer armor. Will 100% be doing this later.

[@alex_s21]

Gas armour, Gas strike and flame thrower / incendiary grenades. TRUST ME. Call it on a breach, stand in middle throw a name and ripppp em

[@obliviondio]

​@@alex_s21 Gas armor still sucks. It needs to be 90% instead of 80

[@MyGoToUserName]

My go to bug loadout right now is blitzer, thermite, gernade pistol and railgun. Having unlimited use of blizter lets you hold down the trigger and spam rushing hoards, the railgun takes care of heavy armor, and thermite if you need to quickly take care of chargers. Precision orbital strike, 500kg, and shield for support stratagems.

[@Rupertssons]

I personally love the new Breaker Spray and Pray. The new spread pattern makes a huge difference, letting you mow down a huge crowd of charging bugs.

[@FinalShieldnobi]

Ayyyy a fellow SnP enjoyer 👊 I'm really liking using that thing to mow down bugs :) Usually pair it with the Senator to shoot through med armor but I kinda wanna try it with a dagger now.

[@derptothemaxclearly]

Regarding the 500KG, its blast is ~13x SMALLER than it would be in real life. Source, retired 13B US Army.

[@louiesatterwhite3885]

Pretty sure the 380mm shells are much smaller than they are supposed to be too

[@derptothemaxclearly]

@@louiesatterwhite3885 You are correct. IRL if you were to call in fire support from a 16in navy gun, you will need to call it in as danger close if you are within *2,000 meters* of your target due to the possibility of incapacitation from FF. Those old guns leave a crater that is 50ft X 20ft deep. The 380s in game are goofy under powered. They perform more like a 105mm from an AC-130U gunship. Modern 155mm rounds fused to air burst are lethal in about 1000m2. Artillery has been known as the King of Battle for good reason.

[@damienmcdonald7610]

Depends as much if not more on what explosive type they're using than the weight of it. If you're talking about the 1000lbs "bathtub" bomb then yeah the radius is way smaller but we're talking about super earth here. They think polystyrene packaging is efficient armour lol. I know we'd expect a race capable of long range space travel to have superior weapons but all evidence so far is opposite. Also let's be real your 500kg bomb would probably be beyond OP, not to mention you'd have no way of getting far enough away after throwing that stratagem lol

[@damienmcdonald7610]

​@@derptothemaxclearlyI'm ex army so not an explosives expert by any stretch, long rifles and assault rifles are what I was trained on, the highest explosive I was personally trained with was a standard issue frag. But a 155mm airburst being lethal to 1km square seems a bit much. A barrage of them sure but just one I can't get my head around. Also those old navy artillery guns weren't deadly to 2000m from a single shot either, they just weren't exactly accurate so nobody wanted to be near their target. Again, not an expert and maybe I'm wrong here, apologies if so.

[@derptothemaxclearly]

@@damienmcdonald7610 yeah if they scaled some of the stuff back and just called it a super earth AC 130, off map motars, off map howitzers, laser guided jdam etc the scale would fit perfectly. They could even do the call of duty kill streak thing with the AC 130 and people would eat that up.

[@ACVNA]

Dude nobody better complain now….im having fun again….❤

[@ArcanoSilverwind]

Its such a blast but i cant help but feel too strong now. Maybe if i bumped it up to level 10 id feel different but playing on 7/8 and below feels trivial.

[@unamless9229]

@@ArcanoSilverwind bump it up

[@kirbstomp1567]

What about those thermite nades?! I blew off all that dust and have been having a literal blast.

[@sam-fr5tc]

@@ArcanoSilverwind i always played 7 but this updatde made me play 10, its a lot more fun.

[@Saaru606]

yeah when game release , we need a lot of work to take down Titan hunting mission in 4-6 but now it's effortless. but i think its not about the numbers, the spawn mechanic need a lot of rework IMO. especially when you see Space Marine 2 or deep rock. you can see and understand enemy's path and logic. but HD2's is just random spawn / drop around you so it's all only about fighting skill and gear's tier.

[@bobbymitchell2763]

The spray and Pray with it’s duckbill choke is legitimately amazing for hoard clear now, especially considering it’s massive ammo reserve.

[@magicman539]

The grenade launcher only got a slight buff, mainly to its ammo economy, but man it feels so strong and consistent in this update. Combined with the ammo backpack, thermites, and the engineer armor passive it’s a super fun grenadier loadout where I forget that I even have a primary 😂

[@antrdunc]

The frag grenade buff goes with the grenade launcher too

[@julienlejeune2841]

What do you mean? ​@@antrdunc

[@blaiseboudreau1819]

​@julienlejeune2841 probably the explosion radius buff.

[@blaiseboudreau1819]

​@julienlejeune2841 There was also something about an extra belt of grenades for it, too. Land with 2 spare belts normally and up to 3 spare max. (If I remember correctly)

[@fourswords77]

@@blaiseboudreau1819 previously you only had 2 spare belts, now you can carry 3. So 3 and 4 if you count the belt loaded into the launcher

[@a1ais315]

I really wish they add passives to helmets, like being able to see through fog and smoke because its so damn annoying when theres spore chargers and you cant see shit

[@tristangavura966]

I mean that’s their whole gimmick feel like it would be a bit too strong the bugs need something to make us sweat. Maybe if it had a charge mechanic or came with something that debuffed your vision in some other way so there was a reason to toggle it on or off

[@alphaxbox3728]

I mean, that's the whole thing though. It'd be really dumb to introduce a counter, that costs nothing, for something that's supposed to make things more difficult.

[@damienmcdonald7610]

​@@tristangavura966maybe like scout helmets could get a radar pulse on cooldown that would outline enemies within a certain distance? That way you could activate it when you need but couldn't spam it to make visibility issues completely trivial. And then give other useful passives to different set helmets for variety.

[@Apickleman]

I’m in love with the arc thrower buffs, before the nerfs to it I used to run a arc thrower jump pack combo to search for samples and nest. Love having fun in this game again

[@seascorp1]

thanks as always for these videos, i have way less time to play and i am grateful for the amount of time you put in to break down so much of the changes.

[@ricoanderson6626]

One of the most fun new builds ive created against the bugs is the "Explosive scout" which uses: B-08 Light Gunner armor, Crossbow, Verdict Pistol (back-up against small enemies in close range), Stun Grenade, Jump Pack, 500kg bomb, Orbital Gas Strike, Napalm Barrage (or Commando rocket launcher). Its nearly perfect for all situations and the max speed, average armor lets you treverse faster than anyone with decent safety and complete side objectives on your own while team works on main objectives.

[@Ironed-Silver]

Arrowhead really needs to bring back Pass Through Rounds from HD1. Rather than penetrating armor for damage, PT rounds pass through the target to hit multiple enemies. This is what the HD 1 Breaker did originally. This is how they can balance Light Armor Pen like the Liberator. If ARs can hit multiple targets in a row they would get a serious boost in viability ad dedicated CC weapons.

[@damienmcdonald7610]

Yeah like blow through rounds in DRG. They don't exactly break armour but will punch through enemies they hit depending on their stats. Some will even go through up to 3 enemies

[@Budder2]

They removed recoil completely from all laser weapons so thats prob why the sickle feels better

[@ZuckerbergsAi]

sickle still has recoil, only 2 though

[@camper5579]

Shame they took away that holo sight from scythe and added some weird scope thats bad

[@hippoace]

​@@camper5579hmm i kinda prefer the 2x scope vs its old red dot sight 😅

[@huntcringedown2721]

Finally I dont have to choose between best weapon avalible and can focus on what I like

[@diabolicblackout849]

Fun fact : Both the railgun and the arc thrower were nerfed because they could deal with bile titans really easily. Turns out that it wasn't because of their damage but because of a bug that let you one or two shot titans with the railgun if and only if there was a ps5 player in your team. 👍 The bug was fixed later but the nerf wasn't until this patch

[@sarahrogers1271]

It honestly seems like there was a lack of internal communications for quite awhile. Also not that fun of a fact :(

[@NeutralGuyDoubleZero]

The Liberator Concussive getting a 60 round mag really makes it stand out as a persistent swarm suppressor

[@Salmon_Toastie]

Wish it had a touch higher fire rate.

[@MaximusErectusDingalingus]

Thank you stun grenades for your service in times of hardship pre patch, rest easy now 👋

[@DHunt88]

Im happy to see weapons actually do damage now. May have to start playing again.

[@rtb152]

Thankfully the eruptor is fun again

[@rtb152]

Also the arc thrower being a beast again is amazing. I drop in Super Helldive and kill hulks easily, my buddy threw on with me and we absolutely melted waves of bots

[@zacmessinger4410]

Bro its so much fun

[@rtb152]

@@zacmessinger4410 bro test the crossbow. I haven't taken it off since!

[@H4ymaker]

Way to slow on reload, aiming is worse than autocannon. It's like a worse grenade pistol. BUT! Yes it is very fun to shoot

[@rtb152]

@@H4ymaker I have no issues with it now, it was only the shrapnel loss that sucked for me.

[@Nayr090]

Had no idea about the Sickle or AT Mines changes, glad you included them!

[@wickerg041]

The arc blitzer always was able to stun enemies. It was and still us my go to weapon against terminids, because it cockblocks bile spewers from spewing.

[@RiceCubeTech]

The thermite, crossbow, and a rupture changes, honestly make the demolition warbond the best one. it also still has the grenade pistol too. While I run the crossbow now and I don’t really need the grenade pistol it’s still great utility. There is not a single war that comes close to the amount of top-tier items on that one

[@KingofDefiance]

They definitely buffed the terminids. Especially the chaff, they spawn in larger clusters, leap farther, pursue you from a greater distance, try to flank and strike more often.

[@Grebogoborp]

Thermites being useful is so nice they are SO good for just quickly dealing with a charger while in a hoard when you don’t have time to whip out your anti tank weapon or when you respawn and need to get back to your stuff

[@moosedawgatlantaproductions]

Some guy from accounting must’ve busted into a board meeting and yelled, “BUFF EVERYTHING!!!”

[@Ironed-Silver]

They should really lean into the differing fire power of the Eruptor and Crossbow. Keep the crossbow where it's at as a CC weapon. But the Eruptor should get Heavy Armor Pen. Now the Eruptor shouldn't be slapping Wilbers across the map, but being able to at least chip damage BTs and Hulks upfront would open up the support weapon slot for more options.

[@SomeNerd970]

Agreed. Tried out both the Eruptor and the Crossbow and the Crossbow is pretty much better in every way. I feel like the Eruptor needs more damage or armour pen.

[@H4ymaker]

​@SomeNerd970 the aiming and slowness of the eruptir along with its explosive risk makes it such a hard primary to pick. Everytime I pick it, I regret it half way thru a mission

[@Ironed-Silver]

@@H4ymaker That's actually the hidden "balance" behind the original Helldivers that the devs seem to have forgotten about. The weapons SHOULD but one tapping the user just as easily as it does all non boss monsters. Honestly I believe the Eruptor should have a bigger explosion by a small margin making it riskier. But to compensate it should gain heavy armor pen. That way you could chip damage ELITES or to just completely disrespect those heavy Devastators shields

[@Xl_Fenrir_lX]

Correction about the thermite grenade regarding chargers. It does not always 1-hit them depending on where it lands. The armored charger in particular can survive a thermite, but is on very low health afterwards

[@CrazyDutch91]

Great video as always! No fluff just quality. I would say the only thing you could have added is the change to armor values for heavy enemies, like how BT can now be killed off by weapons that couldn't before.

[@lazydynamite9726]

I was waiting for the in depth dive on all the changes you go over 😭 But I understand ❤ great vid!

[@robvogl7178]

I appreciate your commitment to bringing us this information. You can Cookie are my go to for HD2 news and tips.

[@toms6538]

an already fun game made so much better Flame thrower, 500kg, orbital napalm, and thermite in loadout now. So much fun

[@Dampomicpic77]

There’s 3 major things I want added, I want like an 11th difficulty war mode, basically each helldiver has a ship with 4 hellpods, I want there to be like a gigantic 24 helldiver map where either real 24 people play or you lead 3 AI as a squad leader. 2.) I want a thunder spear kinda from attack on titan , a spear with an explosive that when you throw completely destroys armor, makes a big hole or can like de arm Bile titan legs and Automaton tanks and stuff. 3.) A stratagem creator, I want each hell diver to get a single use special stratagem slot where you create it. It could be a mix of like a 500kg bomb plus napalm, or like every eagle stratagem at the same time, or every orbital or something like that, you customize it.

[@eightbyte1]

It's so great coming from being starved for choice to being overwhelmed by choice when it comes to the various niches, the variety of options for viable anti-tank, anti-swarm and anti-elite makes the game feel so good.

[@TheLeshi]

I have been fighting in the 2nd galactic war for a long time - over 300 hours. I was beginning to finally tire of it, especially of the limited viable load outs. Then, Super Earth Weapon Improvements finally came through, and now I'll fight until I can no longer hold a Senator - and then I'll call a 500k down on my position and die in glory.

[@camarilloanthony]

“They’re just an absolute blast” I see whatcha did there

[@Corium1]

i love how pretty much every weapon got a buff directly or indirectly this patch. I actually feel like you can have a very diverse loadout now. I hope this is the method they use going forward for balance. if they do nerf something i hope it's with reason an not just cause it's the popular meta. The game feels like it's in a state it should've been a while ago.

[@cadam4272]

I think the best thing to come out of this update is now I seriously have too many options. Beforehand I would take the same loadout that, for my playstyle, was the best at handling both hordes and heavies. Now, it feels so nice to switch things out and it not be a "goof" thing

[@zerox9242]

I wish that the purifier could receive a buff. It still feels wonky between the charge time and amount of shots required to kill.

[@camper5579]

It should be closer to eruptor imo, i used it twice and didnt touch it again

[@ShiningDarknes]

This is good. The game feels like it always should have. The railgun is still struggling against chargers and bile titans though, that still needs work. Full charged a titan head 6 times and it still wasn’t close to dead. Shot a charger leg twice and did not strip the armor, took 5 shots to the head. Other than that hiccup everything else I tried felt right. Oh except the throwing knives, those are still garbage due to many reasons. All I can say is: no more nerfs to weapons. If things seem too strong slightly adjust the enemy values. The armor change has single-handed lay made many weapons infinitely more viable and made more strats usable because of the primary being able to do work. Taking crossbow or eruptor for nest/factory clear and stalwart/MG/HMG used as a primary feels great.

[@kingdutchorama4999]

The removal of recoil on the Scythe has played havoc with my muscle memory. I find myself pulling down just that little bit to compensate for weak recoil that is no longer there. It's going to take a minute to get used to my favorite weapon again. The Scope is a great addition though i wish it had zoom levels, The Scythe's ludicrous range could make great use of it !

[@sivel7493]

Dilligience Counter Sniper is amazing for bugs yes, and a lot of wepaons, but I still love my Tenderizer and the new Liberator cuz, well, Counter Sniper has only 105 bullets while Tenderizer has 280 now and Liberator with 405. The fact that Scavengers die in 1 shot now all the times (cuz before if can take 2 shots for Liberator and even Adjudicator) make it so that with Liberator and Tenderizer, you can basically trash-clear a lot better. Not to mention, it takes 2 shots for Tenderizer and 3 shots for Liberator to pop a Warrior's head for them to bleed out so at the end of the day, it's not so different from Counter Sniper's 1 shot for that, tho the CS can push them back now which is great. Also, I think Dilligience definitely trades fire power for the ability to trash-clear better, I mean, Dilligience literally has 180 bullets overall VS 105 of Dilligience CS after all. And if you got a good support weapon to deal with AV3 enemies like Hive Guards and Bile Spewers, it shouldnt matter that much.

[@anthornn9893]

Finally they’re listening to us and it’s working out. I love all the weapons that are so strong and the amazing power trip

[@TheodoraMoon]

Finally it is time to choose weapons because of their feeling and just being for it's damage

[@thefamilycat86]

Props to the devs! Took them a while to bring Helldivers back! 🎉

[@paramedicsam]

I have been using the thermite since the beginning, good back up for bug holes and 3 to take down the bile titans. NOW this is what they are supposed to be. Can't wait to get on after work.

[@mobeus5019]

I'm happy they changed the audio of the eruptor. It used to sound like a suppressed sniper rifle. Honestly, I wish it was even more loud and....erruptive sounding

[@Stierenkloot]

I think what stands out a lot is that you can headshot anything with the quasar cannon now. So satisfying

[@charlymccroskey6306]

I just love that my scythe and laser cannon work on automatons now. I was always dedicated to using them no matter what so I'm very happy

[@pruett89]

It’s soooo much fun now!!! I love the incendiary barrage, I love the new load out combos that used to be too weak. This game is BACK!

[@JonnyBauer]

I never stopped using the Arc Thrower. I overlooked its flaws because of how much I enjoyed it, but I'm very glad its got some love. To be fair, even before the buff it could kill a standard Charger in less than 10 headshots.

[@MikleKaneChannel]

Dude, I tried Arc Thrower after patch + Laser guard dog against bugs, it's devastating combo! I was solo against enormous hordes at some defense objectives and my kill count was almost 100, this combo makes you literally one-man army, I almost never used my sickle and grenade pistols for holes only, it's nuts

[@urbanapache2]

Last night I was rocking Crossbow, arc thrower, gas nades (later changed to thirmite) and the crisper, supply pack....with Railcannon orbital and precision orbital....pretty much destroyed everything. Struggled with the flying bugoids a little, but thankfully team took them out :D

[@SkydreamPony]

Thermites are awesome :D Getting chased by a Hulk? Yeet the thermite and stay out of the line of fire, and then bye bye Hulk!

[@guardiantko3220]

I am so glad i can actually USE OTHER WEAPONS AND STILL FEEL EFFECTIVE. Not taking a different weapon only to feel like its holding me back

[@Zero3384]

one of my favorite changes is how fabricators now have health if you run recoil-less..EAT...quasar...commando....or spear.....you can snipe an entire bot base with your anti-armor weapon by just shooting the fabricators, no need to aim for the vents

[@armabearo]

Drum mag for the liberator concussive is amazing

[@OfficialJamesGardner]

So fun

[@theshrekening4525]

AT rocket one taps Automiton Fabricators now

[@Majora527]

I’ve been using the Railgun before the patch and it was ok but I’m so glad they brought it back to its former glory

[@spencerwiman9841]

This made me want to play again after 2 months! Thanks!

[@notsohandyandy]

Alternate title: Arrowhead's Top 10 Most Anticipated Nerfs

[@Sen.StevenArmstrong]

Right after the patch came out ran the crossbow with the ballistic shield, machine gun support, mg emplacement, 500kg bomb, and thermite grenades. It’s probably going to be my go to bot loadout I honestly felt like a one man army half the time.

[@LucasRicardoBarbieri]

Same here with the Sickle, maybe placebo but feels a lot better in damage even

[@Moodyman90]

I liked the part where they made Democratic Detonations a war bond worth getting outside of the grenade pistol again. Everything in that war bond other than the grenade pistol got touched, granted the Adjudicator's "buff" is due to the enemies being nerfed. Maybe I'm greedy but I wished they had done something to the Purifier from Polar Patriots. That war bond wasn't forgotten, but only the Tenderizer got directly touched.

[@Anarkin-s9q]

I would love to see a warbond going around the theme of weapons like the Purifier

[@Salmon_Toastie]

I only got that pass for the third page armour set and nade pistol

[@Ifyoucanreadthisgooglebroke]

Agree with these takes. There are at least four primaries that I wonder if are actually overpowered right now. But, more think they represent close to what all primaries probably need to be. Bring on difficulty 11 and 12. Also, funny thing for me about the 500kg is that I keep finding sending it to be just as quick and easy as a good old eagle strike. Never used to bother with 500kg because it used to be noob bait on account of being strictly worse than the regular eagle. But be it something about triple down or about all the memes, I switched and it is instantly just as automatic as the one backed by a lot of muscle memory.

[@MNewton]

Damage to tanks seems a little inconsistent though, I've seen the actual munition hit the top of a tank and blow up without killing(it ends up flaming but not quite dead) it but other times it seems to one shot them. I'm not quite sure whats going on there. That said I took it before cuz it worked well enough and you got two plus big explosion graphic makes monkey happy, but even with slightly inconsistent results it's WAY better.

[@rowdsterrex7845]

The arc thrower seems less prone to killing a team mate by accident. It might be just me but I've seen several instances where it should have and didn't.

[@FallGuysFTW]

I’m done playing the game, but I’ll still watch the content

[@B-U-T-C-H-E-R]

I really enjoy the update. Im not complaining, but now everything is super easy to kill, but even 1 hit takes a ton of health away,so the medic armor is really the only armor worth it anymore

[@Anxiety_cx]

the torcher definitely tortures the enemies

[@codym3415]

My favourite change? That they didn't halve every weapon's magazine count after buffing it. HD2 is BACK

[@goseals6]

Can confirm bile titans die if you hit it in the face with a thermite grenade. I did it last night. It took me a few attempts on several titans to get the arc and throwing animation down. It's a bit tricky. I'm so glad the scythe got buffed. It feels good to use now finally.

[@bassist4life871]

Player counts are looking a lot healthier since this update dropped. Daily peaks are getting close to 100k again

[@InvokeZero]

Due to the armor changes, I've found that the Eagle Strafing Run and Cluster Bomb perform significantly better. They're so good now that I regularly take one or the other on bug missions because they can wipe out entire groups of bugs and they have some of the highest use counts before reloading of any Eagle strike.

[@Anarkin-s9q]

Try the orbital barrage, absolutely wrecks a bug spawn or bot drop.

[@Chris-wl2yv]

They finally listened! I can’t wait to hop back into Helldivers 2!

[@cookiebandit101]

I just want more lightning based weapons. I run the Blitzer shotgun as my primary non stop. Purely because it doesn't run out of ammo in sticky situations. It also has a stagger effect that let's you keep the hoard of bugs off you.

[@MegaMjjordan]

Crossbow has me playing as a Grenadier lately along with the Eruptor. Just to damn good

[@justinleblanc588]

They did good with this patch and listened to the players

[@Scarptre]

There has been a bunch of stealth buffs like Cluster can now damage Chargers. AT mines, ORB Gatling, and so on.

[@aniyn]

I've actually started to enjoy the recoiless again. Feels strong enough to justify the downsides now.

[@Mrsir-m3y]

Someones getting paid by Big counter sniper

[@Mksuper9]

This new update makes you feel like helldiver

[@landofmagic9767]

I tried out the crossbow and shield combo both before and after the patch. Before it felt terrible and I felt like I was a waste of space and so damn useless. But now I feel like a heavy hitting damage sponge and it feels good to give it to the bots!

[@IRMentat]

i loved the launch crossbow, nerfing it's AoE is what originally "killed" it, the later loss of 1/3 of it's ammo was insult added to multiple injuries. diligence CS, still pointless, its just a weaker JAR with a zoom.

[@asdf_asdf948]

The sickle probably feels better because armor pen works a little different now, it does 65% damage instead of 50% when matching armor levels

[@bosssaucenation]

The reason we never got the AT mines was just for the meme. Like I talked to a ton of people on Reddit and on discord. Nobody really cared whether they were good or not it was just funny😂

[@camper5579]

It feels so weird how strong the weapons are now now i just want them to buff spear to 1 hit kill biletitans again since recoilless can do it too

[@justinhalo3541]

yeah the recoiless overshadows the spear by a long run. Hope they buff it in the next big buff patch, alongside the patriot exosuit

[@janiranta8954]

It can kill bile titans oneshot. Faceshot will do it.

[@camper5579]

@@janiranta8954 weird, i mean i use it all the time and just doesnt happen

[@justinhalo3541]

@@camper5579 Same

[@kingrichard_1093]

Love the riot shield with crossbow

[@JustCallMeCrow]

I enjoy how fabricators have health now and can be destroyed with most explosive weapons like the recoilless and EAT. But from my own testing it seems the autocannon can no longer ricochet into the vent for a one shot kill which is unfortunate

[@B-U-T-C-H-E-R]

The arc thrower is insane, against everything. Try running 4 people with the arc resistance armor and arc throwers. lightning popping off each other

[@shirolee]

This is the buff we've needed!

[@jordirapper]

I hope at some point we get like a Superlab where we can try out ever weapon on any enemy. In universe they can say they be like they remade slain automatons and captured Terminids and gave them chems to make them paralyzed or something.