Sweeping Support Changes & More! | Paladins Feudal Fable Patch Review

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[@imajoker6859]

I can’t believe they thought these lilith changes were ok

[@SpectorsKuei]

14:45 I feel this so badly which is sad bc I love lillith’s design, play style, and aesthetic Also the way your suggestions on balancing her are literally 1000x more reasonable than what they came up with is laughable

[@Dantelawless]

Great video! loved your insight

[@うえあい-v6u]

If I am going to use Lilith, There is no point in using a second talent altogether. I'd rather use seris

[@MultiSenhor]

Seris could have a longer healing cooldown and a quicker healing (same healing, higer HPS) so she could shoot more

[@deadwalke9588]

Solar Blessing is decent but to say that it's S-tier, is crazy. Solar Blessing, by itself is not that different from what it used to be and even in those days, it was always a throw pick. Cherish has everything SB has minus the beam heal but contains more utility.

[@pippo17173]

Nerfing healing across the board is such a nuclear direction to take when most of the supports don't have the high healing numbers and even then, what they did to Lilith is way too much. I feel like they need to at least drop most of these on the low tier healers at least or give them compensate buffs like what jenos got.

[@thiefpotato2759]

I am confused as to why they buffed Furia's damage. Doesnt everyone hate the fact that Furia does insane amounts of daamge while having safe, reliable healing.

[@liamgunn4722]

Man kenos being able to give movement speed now is gonna be fucking poggers

[@elmercy4968]

Seris is quite popular in ranked. Just not on very high ranks.

[@rarehecate9324]

2:26 i love their faces 🥵😂

[@aQuestionator]

Rei changes are going to make her a perma ban unless you want to fight double support

[@linklight2]

Also you're completely wrong about the Saati changes being an overall nerf. The hand cannon stuff is a buff - she still gets the firerate increase and speed increase. Also the range increase is huge - remember when Saati was released and she was super strong up close as well as far away? That was the range putting in work. She will be a very disgusting pick to fight against next patch - especially if they're hititing their shots

[@yabbadabbindude]

Who were these people complaining about supports. If support was so strong youd have seen triple support comps become meta. That never happened.

[@pippo17173]

I actually face a triple support comp last night but they got wrecked hard when my team got a triple tank comp lol.

[@frankunodostres473]

I played a tdm with 5 supports the other day and somehow won lmao

[@LumbridgeTeleport]

Actual gold comment.

[@alexiscarranza6601]

@@frankunodostres473Yeah, me too! Most of the games I played with a 5 support team, we won.

[@deadwalke9588]

The entire change were idiotic and not thought through. Moji being turned into a support was the final straw.

[@RandomVids0987]

Moji was worthless as a flank. Be realistic.

[@elmercy4968]

@@RandomVids0987 Her skills are not designed for a healer though.

[@RandomVids0987]

@@elmercy4968 Grover was originally Terminus. Take that in.

[@elmercy4968]

@@RandomVids0987 What?

[@RandomVids0987]

@@elmercy4968 Look up the original Grover.

[@haiderz4510]

I get nerfing Corvus heal but why would they nerf his damage. Was anyone really complaining about Corvus damage, it’s what made him unique to me kinda like baptiste but now he’s just gonna feel like a healbot.

[@DelRae]

They really just only want you to run away from duels I guess, he’s already super fuckin weak and squishy against flankers alone it’s so bad

[@micah4539]

They still don’t get it. They’re trying to curve double support (and the strength of support in general) but their way of doing this is by making all the healing numbers worse( facilitating the need for it) and upgrading the damage if all the supports making them harder to kill and better picks over a 2nd dps. Io now has a higher dps than Imani’s ice form and jenos is about to be insane, and furia is gonna have a killer burst combo for flanks and dps to deal with but ya know that doesn’t matter. It’s never just a problem of high numbers, it’s the fact that they had high numbers and high survivability. This is just gonna make things worse but hey the community seems to be singing the praises of this update so maybe I’m wrong and this will fix everything.

[@frankunodostres473]

since seris is my support main I'm happy about the buffs. same with the buffs for furia, grover and omen. they all should feel better to play aggressively with. the saati nerf concerns me a bit ngl. I get that the heads or tails ulti spam was hated among players but now she seems a bit underpowered. maybe a slight damage buff to compensate would've been nice

[@liamgunn4722]

You think Furia needed more buffs, my guy you need sectioning in your asylum of choice….

[@frankunodostres473]

@@liamgunn4722 where does my comment say that? Reading comprehension boy

[@liamgunn4722]

I’m happy about the buffs same for furia? That’s not you saying you like the fact she’s getting buffed again?

[@frankunodostres473]

@@liamgunn4722 I am happy when characters I play get buffed. But I'm not automatically saying they needed buffs

[@thiagoboscowich3630]

They ruined Lillith imo, not bc she is weak with this changes, but the cards changes and talent. Having penalty in exchange of power is what Lillith is in lore, like her powers, her aid come at a cost, wanna rework a card? How about that card that set your ammo to 2 !

[@linklight2]

Seris is trash current live patch - she needed a buff. This buff doesnt do much for her though.

[@frightfursmarching5279]

I love seris but like I didn't want this I just wanted veil base kit like you can take away the stun and some of her healing if it means I don't need to run veil at fucking 4 or 5 just to use shadow travel, also my tree why must they keep touching your blossom, also rest in peace lillith you will be missed you had a good life before being thrown into the trash can at least you can say hi to sym for me

[@pashokplay3325]

Looks like devs did not cook with those changes. As someone who likes playing Saati, her new default talent is trash. Ricochet (or as I call it "coin") only takes like 5-6 hits. As this guy said, you're spending 2 pips to return 1. That's what I'd call a "Pipback". It's not like I'm playing her default talent, but the current one is just much better in my opinion

[@pashokplay3325]

OK, I didn't play pals for some time and I already forgot that Hot is her third talent, not the first(default) one. But this change is still trash

[@Vlad-ed9ej]

Grokh is bad with those changes

[@GammaTheatre]

While the jenos changes are mostly nice, I’d hardly call him the winner of the patch. He already can’t keep a team alive. At the very least comparatively to even the mediocre healers in the game. And late game unless you have the best luck in the world and roll good teammates that can get uncaut for you to heal them they die. And even then it takes too long because that’s also giving your heal a 1.5 second delay on top of its cooldowns. And over all it’s getting a cooldown and duration nerf. I do like implementing these cards in base kit for more fun cards. But a duration based speed bump that’s not the duration of the mark and a flimsy 200 hp shield at max for 4 seconds, you might as well play Grover or furia they’re gonna have more up time on their speed boosts (due to faster cooldowns and/or resets) and their speed boosts are higher. And in Grover’s case he can give it to the whole team instead of just 1 person. (Furias shield card is trash also tired of furia players putting it in their build coping for it to be good). Hell even Lilith speed on hex or damba or Io’s speed on their right clicks are just better. And again I reiterate they are nerfing his cooldowns on a healer that barely keeps a team up as it is. If anything let jenos use his star splitter and/or F while opponents are gripped so he can at least fight or shoot back. Grip talent helps until they buy unbound. And if your teammates can’t help you it doesn’t matter if you grip an enemy they can still shoot you if you get around a corner fast enough to where they can’t hit you anymore chances are they’ll just get to you as soon as the grip ends. I guess overall he did get SOME love but I don’t relate to the sentiment that they are great changes. I’d say someone such as IO or furia fared off better because they can still out heal him and easily defend themselves from a flank. Without help at that.

[@YellowNinja]

I agree. Other supports still have higher impact. But in terms of changes relative to this patch I'd say jenos walks away with the most.

[@GammaTheatre]

@@YellowNinja that’s fair, maybe I just agree to disagree. A rei or Io can be very annoying to push as a flank or of tank since they can CC you, have DR, Decently high health pool, some form of movement ability, and both got their damage buffed. It feels worse if lunas stun or Io’s slow is the only one on the enemy team you are dealing with then buying items just for them also feels really bad. And they both just out heal jenos pre and post nerf. And rei can heal and do dmg at the same time. As well as heal herself. Seris has this same effect (not talking about dmg and heal at the same time but how she has solid dmg, can stun you and get away and get healed while she gets away) now with increased damage and giving her DR and making one of the best support ults even more useful with more dmg. I feel like I could list off a million more things, I guess my main gripe is that even with this changes it doesn’t feel like there’s going to be any reason to choose jenos over another healer that can do anything he has but better. The only thing jenos has is healing through walls but even still there’s other characters that can get healing to out of sight characters. I feel like these changes (overall) are pushing the meta game more towards double healer which people were already complaining about was happening but wasn’t actually happening because it wasn’t meta and got beat out by nearly every other type of comp. And if we wanna talk about genuine healer power creep. Increasing all of their dmg and reducing the healing especially when adding the most minuscule utilities, really feels like healers in paladins will be like they are in overwatch. People will run 2 healers pump healing into the whole team, and do more dmg than the dps characters. Which some healers can/do already do prior to this patch. (Although RIP Lilith). Sorry for so much I feel like I ramble sometimes because I’m not sure if the message I’m trying to convey is clear

[@tdc455]

People still play this game?

[@elmercy4968]

Aye