tiktok keeps getting worse

[@zandeehdz1]

It sounds like the Tiktok algorithm went the way of the Amazon algorithm: you buy one lamp and suddenly Amazon thinks you are opening a lamp shop and you need 3 thousand more lamps

[@ghostie6190]

and not just regular lamps either amazon will start recommending you outlandish lamps. I bought an end of bed bench and then amazon kept trying to get me to buy a 2000$ skull coffee table or an ancient egyptian cobra side table it was bizarre.

[@adamaccountname]

It works for books which would have been how they built their algorithm. Their alg has to give itself feedback for clickthroughs by product type

[@holidaytrout5174]

I wish KZbin stopped doing that. You're interested in a videogame or movie? Let me show you everything about it and spoil the plot 😡

[@kyerin]

I have been served dozens of ads across multiple platforms over the last couple weeks for the exact same dress I already bought and is hanging in my closet.

[@XAltrus]

"We noticed you just bought a queen size mattress. Would you like a suggestion for 20 more?" How did they know about my dream to open a Bed and Breakfast in the country!?!?

[@polygonvvitch]

In days like this I am glad I have the "7 hour video essay" kind of ADHD and not the "60 second short form content" kind.

[@laurathiele9591]

Omgosh yes!

[@Birdyboys]

Saaame lol

[@harrietdrums]

Hahaha same, I do sometimes get stuck in the vortex though so I don't have tiktok and I have shorts hidden on here

[@justMariL]

Yessss!!!

[@notnyah104]

YESSS

[@hannahfanning9585]

What i hate about tiktok is that if you search for a topic, the results pretty much never update. If you search for a particular account, it's easy to see their latest videos, but if you search for a particular hobby or tag or whatever, there's no way to get specifically the latest uploads to that tag. It's just the same couple dozen "top rated" results, no matter how much time has passed.

[@OneVioletRose]

What about "filter by last 24 hours/ast week/last 3 months/last 6 months"?

[@lightning_skyyy]

oh my god yes, their search engine is awful. i can almost never find exactly what i’m searching for. honestly, social media search engines have gotten worse in general and i hate it

[@hannahfanning9585]

@@OneVioletRose that's another pitfall of the algorithm updates she's critiquing. Even when you do filter, you get shown "related videos" that are older because those videos have more engagement.

[@OneVioletRose]

@@hannahfanning9585 Ah, thank you! I don’t use the search function super often so it’s possible this update escaped my notice

[@user74027nh]

The search function on tiktok is so bad that it's practically useless. I don't know what they changed because it wasn't this bad 2 or 3 years ago. I could search for the caption of a video that I liked - word for word - and it still wouldn't come up.

[@ManoKi_]

I worked for two years as a tiktok mod, before i left about a year ago. They were firing around 800 people saying that tiktok as a platform was losing its size. They said peak numbers were around 2.1 billion videos a month during 2021, down to a couple million a month before they fired us. Our side of Mods was a team of 1200 people, they fired 800 in one month then forced everyone else back to site. Theres so much more i wish people knew about or I had a platform to get the word out but trust me, Please dont use it past looking at shitty memes.

[@bingonight1504]

Like, duh it's seen less growth than when people were forced to stay home and get all their social interaction from the internet? Companies and creators are insane for thinking they should be able to reach that peak again

[@lifeunderthestarstv]

Unfortunately the pandemic was a massive boom for the stock market, and capitalism dictates that businesses stock prices need to increase to be seen as successful and their profit margin must grow. Which is why we have seen all businesses go to absolute shit since the pandemic ended. Price scalping by all supermarkets, prices soaring for fast food, companies buying up all the land has gone insane. Its so broken xd.​@bingonight1504

[@zrobotics]

One thing to consider in a case like this where you have a story that should be told but no pre-existing platform is to at least post it places and hope it will gain some traction. KZbin comments definitely aren't the place, but depending on the level of work you are willing to do and your abilities please consider something like creating a video or writing your experience up somewhere. If your story is compelling (which it sounds like it is), then creating some form of sharable content can be a good way to get that story out even if you don't have an existing audience. Definitely not guaranteed, but even something like writing this up as a medium blog and sharing the story on social media/reddit/twitter/etc has at least the potential to attract eyeballs.

[@gauner1312]

infinite growth is impossible. sorry that you got fired though.

[@ManoKi_]

@@gauner1312 Thankfully I found a new job before they started firing most of the people, I was pretty good mod so I was told i was safe even if i didnt leave!

[@hotfire2181]

My biggest problem with the TikTok algorithm, as someone with severe health/medical OCD and anxiety, is that whenever I block a term it almost seems like I'm recommended more of that topic than if I had just ignored it. For example, if I block terms such as "dentist, nurse, doctor, heart attack", I'll be immediately served with content tagged as "root canal, surgery, heart palpitations, and hospital". It's incredibly important for my meatal health that the content I want blocked, is not used against me.

[@kiwijuice662]

Same happens to me

[@anonymousposter6461]

Someone else said this in another comment, but when that happens, get off the app for a couple minutes. They care about keeping you on the app. They don't care if you block someone.

[@SlayrinaF]

I had to block every possible pregnancy related term and it kept shoving momtok on my fyp for no reason, I ran out of blockable terms! The limit is only like a 100, so frustrating.

[@elliecee2034]

Same here. My biggest triggers are regarding diet culture and weight loss and the more I block and say "not interested" the more gets shown to me :/

[@kiwijuice662]

@@elliecee2034 I’m the exact same !! But because of the nature of it, my brain can’t look away from the triggering content and i end up down a rabbit whole of ed content :(

[@Adrian-xj7dt]

One thing that bothers me about tiktok right now is that it keeps showing me things similar to what I've blocked. My fyp was full of those pranklaugh channels with compilation videos and every time I went to their page to block them I guess tiktok counted me visiting their page as a positive? Because it's like cutting off the heads of a hydra right now with those things.

[@persomnus]

Also close the app and go away for a while. They care about keeping you on the app, not whether you'll block someone or not. I do this everytime something I really don't want to see pops up and I don't have issues getting tiktok to stop showing me something.

[@rinwhittney5039]

That happens to me too. And then I started bloccking keywords/tags but theres a hundred tag limit and all it changed was I get the same content but without any tags so there’s nothing that I can block out

[@anonymousposter6461]

​@@persomnusThis is the way.

[@CocoLicious]

They know exactly you blocked the content. They know exactly what you like. Tiktoks algorithm is designed to get you to watch as much as possible, which is why it's not showing you 100% of what you want, but only a certain percentage because you searching for the right content is time on the app (and I imagine is measured higher than fulfilling user requests all of the time). Edit: they also know what content gets the most traffic and that is peddled to you at any chance possible (but not so much that you think your actions don't completely matter). They want you to change your taste/preferences to the stuff that's the bigger money earner. I know this sounds very dark, but it is.

[@blue-dabad33]

that was reels for me a couple months, I hated it. I don't understand how such actions could possibly make someone want to use the platform longer

[@jesekreanne]

I'm not on TikTok, I only watch KZbinrs talk about what's happening there. But I've asked friends of mine that consume TikTok if they've noticed any changes, or if they're using it less. And across the board they'll think for a second and say "....oh ya I guess I'm not on there that much anymore! I hadn't really noticed!" So even the subtle users are becoming meh about it.

[@Zeverinsen]

*Same.* I already get second hand brain rot from seeing tiktoks everywhere else.

[@VanessaChats]

I'm with you. I'm in the "I get see TikToks on FB and IG" audience and have avoided the clock app ever since it was a thing. I downloaded it once, did one video many many years ago before it was a thing and then promptly deleted it and have never touched it since especially after learning about it's ties to the CCP. I also only get the tea about TT from Swell hahaha and others. Saves me having to be on the app itself.

[@user74027nh]

I stopped using Tiktok about 2 weeks ago because I broke my phone and have been using my old one that has barely any storage... and I barely miss it tbh. The app has been going downhill ever since tiktok shop was introduced. I also realized that the algorithm's tendency to push content designed to make people angry or upset (cause that drives engagement) has made my anxiety so much worse. Its reminding me a lot of Twitter in that aspect - borderline unusable and just not that fun anymore tbh

[@user74027nh]

I took a break from tiktok a couple weeks ago, and tbh I don't miss it. Besides the algorithm getting worse, doomscrolling on that app has made me feel so much more anxious and depressed about the world. I've had to take breaks from it before just for the sake of my mental health.

[@avavavaa]

it's just a completely different vibe now, it's incredibly rare to actually find a funny video. most posts are just rage/engagement bait for views and petty influencer drama.

[@scarpfish]

Pretty much all of the major social media platforms are in "Okay, we have them addicted, now we make them swallow" mode.

[@autohmae]

It's called enshittification

[@uniquenewyork3325]

I'm not gonna lie, tiktok was NOT this bad before people started posting about palestine. I can't help but think investors intimidated them so they started switching to things that make money/are dumb instead of actual content (aka informative stuff)

[@walkingonneedles]

​@@uniquenewyork3325someone in another comment who was a TikTok mod said that the site has been bleeding users since lockdown on a massive scale, so i think part of it really is just the userbase dwindling and the platform being desperate to make money

[@re0294]

The TikTok user experience has BEEN hostile. They drove me off of their platform themselves by banning me on 3 separate accounts in the span of 2 weeks for “authenticity and integrity”, just because I didn’t want to show my name or face. I was being completely normal, watching liking commenting on people’s content just like everyone else, and even tried posting a couple times to see if having an empty account was the problem. Nope, still got banned. I gave up.

[@lexedwards1236]

That has never happened to me, so weird they would target your account. TikTok is the worst.

[@ericatucker2683]

I've never posted any videos of myself and I'm fairly certain I don't even have a picture. That's so weird.

[@theopollind8024]

Please be safe, looks like you have a stalker who keeps finding your account and keeps reporting you

[@zrobotics]

@@theopollind8024 While that's possible, it's also possible that some AI system somewhere originally flagged their device. Unless you do extensive scrubbing and work, signing up after an account was banned makes it very likely that subsequent accounts will be banned as well, since they will already have a user profile (not an account) built up for that device & user that makes it more likely to be banned.

[@karliwalkerofficial]

Yea I was going to say that as well. That really only happens if you have someone or many people reporting your account. OP, you might wanna think about that. Hopefully it’s nothing more than someone in your life or your past being petty.

[@michaelk6472]

I don’t know if it’s just because I’ve gotten older, but social media just seems like a chore now. The content is just one third slop, one third rage bait, and one third ads. The creators that I actually like probably only post about a hour or two of content per week, but the sites are designed to keep you scrolling for hours a day. Eventually I couldn’t even convince myself that I was having fun anymore so I just deleted TikTok and Twitter and blocked KZbin shorts. It’s not like my productivity has dramatically improved or anything, but I just feels so much better not having that cacophony constantly being beamed directly into my brain.

[@ActionScripter]

Another good thing to try is to set a bookmark for the KZbin "subscriptions" page (not the standard home page) and then aggressively prune your subscriptions list to channels you actually want to see content from. Soon KZbin will just be an occasionally updated list of interesting videos from channels you like. Keeping up with it will be extremely easy, and the watch time will probably stay low.

[@user74027nh]

I ditched Twitter over a year ago for the same reasons I'm considering just deleting Tiktok tbh: My timeline is mostly ads, depressing news, or promoted content; the app is becoming borderline unusable, and tbh its just not fun anymore. I had to start avoiding it whenever I was having a bad day because doomscrolling on it usually just made me feel so much worse.

[@Zoulstorm]

Its the enshittification of social media, vc money has run dry and now they’re sqeezing the consumer to turn a profit. More ads to increase revenue, more ragebait to increase engagement. They are circling the drain.

[@aielianna]

There’s actually really good content on there but it just doesn’t outweigh all the other shit plus how addictive it is for me. I also miss all those videos that had the perfect type of stupid humor that I like but oh well I guess.

[@ww3196]

Exactly...!

[@rybread5363]

My favorite algo is YT when I’m 🍃 at 11pm. “Oh you want to watch a 4 hour long essay on this show you forgot about?” “Look at this whale getting on a boat” “Cherynobl facts people forgot about” type videos. Like they forgot who they were catering to and threw the whole platform at me at once. It’s truly beautiful.

[@TempestPhaedra]

youtube's night algorithm is truly unhinged. I consistently start to pull medical oddity videos around 1 AM.

[@tifinity]

KZbin's night algorithm is true original KZbin flavour it's how we find our new rabbitholes :D

[@bishielurfer]

When the youtube algorithm stops just showing me the same dozen videos over and over again, it's actually pretty good. It just like... Gets stuck sometimes. The algorithms for shorts is wild though. I get the most random stuff there.

[@Patricia-b]

It's so annoying that i cant watch a single video without it bombarding me with log in and download the app. I just want to be in the know. The more that happens the more i sink my feet in the notion of never downloading it again

[@RoseVirusLV]

saaame, for the longest time i just refused to download tiktok because it would try to shove me toward the app and i didn't wanna do the extra step. Now that I have the app, simply tapping on a video link a friend sends me is like a 80% 20% shot of if tiktok will actually open on that video but more often than not, it just starts playing a different video entirely and it's so annoying. I've just gotten friends to start adding "vx" to the start of a tiktok link so i can just watch it in browser or in discord.

[@kiwijuice662]

An idea could be watching tiktok compilations on youtube with the certain topic you want to be up to date about? :)

[@sarasthoughts]

Literally all apps do that. You can't consume content from twitter threads etc without being logged into the app

[@mailys9475]

i used to be able to watch the tiktoks my friends sent me without having the app or an account, but lately it became impossible ​@@sarasthoughts

[@tifinity]

​@@sarasthoughts ... You know you're on KZbin right? The number one website for not caring if you're logged in? Facebook, Instagram etc still let you view a page without requiring login, tiktok's website refuses to function that way and it's a fairly basic norm of the internet to allow you to see at least some shit without logging in, it's part of selling your service.

[@zanzibartree]

I keep seeing influencers on their IG pushing people towards their TikTok. I get that there’s money there but it’s so annoying to me because I consider TikTok unwatchable. I’m like “do you not see this falling apart in the next few months????”

[@seaweed_tea]

Exactly like alienating the fan base that doesn’t use tt does not help them in the long run lmao

[@sarasthoughts]

Tiktok has been going strong since the pandemic. It's a great platform, way funnier than instagram. It is absolutely not going to die in months lmao

[@bishielurfer]

I really don't get that because one thing I've heard consistently is that tiktok pays creators the worst of any platform.

[@Kaykokovids]

I abandoned tiktok 2 years ago and have felt better for it. It is surprising to see how much the algorithm has fallen off and its basically become the livestream/shopping app :/.

[@Bloooooooop693]

Same dude, I quit in 2021 cause it just messed my mental health up so bad. It’s honestly a bit relieving it’s getting worse, I hope I’m able to get my friends and family back. TikTok got an iron grip on everyone

[@sharkshannon]

same, it makes me mad how many people will refused to delete/quit tiktok because of fomo or any other reason. this app is a shithole and people should free themselves from it.

[@thegadflysnemesis4102]

maybe if tiktok falls from grace itll get more chill for the people who cling on like roaches in nuclear winter, it worked for tumblr

[@Li0nHearted]

They would need to ban porn on TikTok for that to happen

[@Moco_Cork1]

​@Li0nHearted I think, eventually, that's all TikTok will be. Nothing but porn.

[@Zeverinsen]

​@@Moco_Cork1 There's porn on there? 💀

[@kirrb-dot-exe]

@@Zeverinsenwell, if i remember there were porn bots that were v annoying but instead of getting rid of the bots like everyone asked, tumblr just made an algorithm to get rid of “flesh-presenting pixels” or something. Aka it not only got rid of horny people but also (more importantly) artists whose sfw harmless art were still flagged

[@ryanisverycool]

@@kirrb-dot-exewasnt there drama on tumblr bc geology posts were being flagged as skin?

[@sus5866]

whats sad is that in 2020 era tiktoks algorithm was SO amazing like i rarely saw anything i didnt want to see

[@MerrittandMythos]

Tiktok recently switched my entire FYP to creators from Brazil and India in languages I do not speak because I watched too many of the makeup trend videos to that Bollywood song that blew up a few months ago. They weren't even makeup videos that my feed was full of. The algorithm just attributed the fact that the biggest creators in the trend at the time were from Brazil and the audio was from India and made some wild leaps. I was *begging* for funky renfaire content for days.

[@bri8394]

As a cosplayer, I search characters and tags to find related audios but it has started throwing in SO many random videos that have nothing to do with my search

[@CrystalFier]

13:06 what's worse, is youtube is taking so much of their cues from tiktok. KZbin's algorithm got changed again to be just as crap, and I don't even wanna talk about the search becoming fully unusable.

[@m1k3y48]

KZbin’s search is SO BAD NOW Why dos it only show half a dozen results then turn to random stuff?! I searched, give me the damn search results! Google doesn’t just show ads after the first few proper search results.

[@buttbobaggins]

my favorite thing recently has been the youtube algorithm flipflopping on what gender it thinks I am lmao, one day i'll look at a nail tutorial and get served beauty drama channels and girly introspective commentary, the next day i watch a more niche vid on a video game or hobby or something and suddenly it's all sweaty gamer dudes with titles like HERE'S what's WRONG with (GAME)

[@placeholderdoe]

I just straight up have the home and shorts page off now. KZbin’s recommendations were so bad it just was better to be able to fully ignore them

[@papermario3982]

​@@placeholderdoeYou can turn it "off"??

[@Zariel_999]

@@placeholderdoe didn't know you could turn it off

[@Riviwriter]

Thank you for validating my otherwise unfounded revulsion with tiktok

[@AriLove_doodles]

Same. The ecosystem feels too overwhelming for me I think.

[@Zeverinsen]

​@@AriLove_doodles Agreed. I have ADHD, and for that reason I'm never getting it.

[@ArtsyHuharo]

As a Canadian, I don’t have access to TikTok shop, so the algorithms just never shows me those videos at all. I have experienced the issue Amanda brought up where half of the videos on my FYP will be about the exact same topic (cucumber salad guy, I love you, but I don’t need to see 10 recipes all next to each other). I guess if they do implement TikTok shop for Canada it will be Trudeover for us.

[@LocalTorchwoodIntern]

Ive had it with animal videos specifically, like if I got one dog video from a creator, 9/10 I would get stuck in a stream of their content which literally throws my groove off and makes me just not want to use it.

[@HoneyedToast]

Honestly I don't even need the tiktok shop or the videos to drive me off the app. (Although if they do bring it to Canada that might be the nail in the coffin) It's the fucking Tiktok notes that drive me crazy. I get so many notifications of people posting on notes. Like I don't fucking care. I don't have notes. I can't turn off these notifications. I barely use tiktok now because of it. Everytime I log on and see 10+ notifications from notes I get annoyed and close it

[@yaminogame7805]

THANK YOU. Nobody was talking about how awful tiktok has gotten...you now also can no longer see the next video on it like you did before. You could click on the profiles and it would say "see the next video!" and scroll you towards it. The lives are just ways to sell us things...

[@Ruby-xk8kn]

It also intentionally glitches and doesnt let you swipe past lives, half the time you try to swipe away and it makes you enter the live and then freezes not allowing you to back out, i think they intentionally made it this way.

[@dsnodgrass4843]

"Dark patterns" in UI are still a thing.

[@__________yuyu]

Yes! It is always conveniently "broken" in a way that benefits them.

[@m1k3y48]

The thing that puts me off the short form content (other than the ADHD brainrot) is the idea of having to skip videos INSTANTLY if it’s something I might not be interested in, otherwise I’ll get stuck in a trap of garbage content. It seems so hostile to the user experience

[@jo_aspen]

Have i ever had tiktok? Nope. Will i always watch content ragging on it? Absolutely.

[@justsummers1559]

😊yes

[@HurricaneBady]

same thing here, mate

[@savannah115]

🙋‍♀️

[@_rachelreads]

never downloaded it, never will!

[@TheThriftyTherapist]

Same! F this thing I've never experienced 😂

[@BriannaStwalley]

I saw a 6 year old watching family vlog content on tiktok in a restaurant and it changed my mind on the TikTok ban

[@josephtafur]

Same here

[@ElizabethMidfordHatesCops]

I just think we shouldn't give phones to kids. Phones aren't meant for children. We shouldn't get rid of apps made for older people just because parents can't parent.

[@biteofdog]

Family vlogging should be banned, the kids don't get to choose if they want their lives on the internet and I'm sure there are creepy people watching them.

[@sarasthoughts]

This is such a stupid take. "Parents are irresponsible so platforms should be censored" americans are insane.

[@lisahoshowsky4251]

Every once and awhile I think, “maybe I should get tik tok” and then Swell comes in and reminds me why it’s really not worth it Plus Markie gives me all the clock app tea anyways😅

[@VanessaChats]

You and me both !

[@lfrancis8980]

So many stolen livestreams, too. Original creators will straight up put their username and the date on screen, and TikTok won't take down copycat streams that pull in tons of money by re-streaming the original video. There is an elderly man who plays guitar with his granddaughter on TikTok live, with a poster with username and date on it, and his streams still keep getting stolen and monetized. Reporting does nothing even though the theft is so obvious. I feel awful for that faily.

[@biteofdog]

It's the same for facebook, so much stolen content on there and reporting it does nothing.

[@NESAtariSegaNerd]

literallyyyy, I joined a live where a woman was doing fortune telling and I immediately noticed none of the names she was reading were names anyone was commenting

[@oliviaowens291]

Tiktok has been completely unusable for the last month or so for me. I'm getting videos that are months old that I've already seen. And at the start of the this month, I starting getting dorm room tours. I'm 26 years old, I'm out of that part of my life and I really don't care to see what the 18 year olds are doing with their dorm rooms. I hit "not interested" on every single one as soon as I clock it's a dorm tour, and I'm still being fed multiple a day.

[@mykaruest3620]

Honestly, seeing irrelevant topics or the same trend for the 50th time was the reason I left due to making me actually physically nauseous

[@IdealisticDog]

Never forget TikTok official documentation detailed tuning the algorithm to demote videos that contained overweight people. /That's/ the origin culture this came from.

[@randomtinypotatocried]

I find so many platforms especially in the last year have gotten so hostile to be on. I'm hitting a point of just giving up on most social media platforms

[@catis4]

I wonder if tiktok is just trying to milk every single dollar before they get banned

[@xpoprxyalty]

I like in Korea and still use TikTok and it was crazy how different my experience was using the app was whenever I was back in the States for vacation bc I kept getting ad after ad, peddling live stream after another. I still get TikTok lives but not nearly as often as I was when I was in the States. Korean TikTok doesn’t even have the shop feature on the app

[@bp67499]

It's not just tiktok either, but it's also KZbin shorts as well.... It's just a rabbit hole of the same shit cycled over and over

[@amemelia]

Yep, the shorts I get is stuff I'm interested in (I don't subscribe to the channels but enjoy the shorts) but my shorts are literally only just: kid with disability, blind man, fashion man, ASMR live, ASMR video, weird advert, repeat. Literally nothing new, just the same videos (even if I do enjoy them)

[@nightrose6116]

i have an extension on my laptop that blocks yt shorts and i literally deleted the app off my phone. i feel so free

[@user74027nh]

The algorithm on KZbin shorts is so bad that I would rather be doing literally anything else. Even the shorts I enjoy end up being from the same 3 or 4 creators

[@justsummers1559]

YT search algo in general Is broken. It's so bad now I have to keep refreshing and it suggests videos I've watched and I can't tell til I click on them. Or videos from years ago. 😢

[@mfgrocks11]

Yep, I must've gotten through all of them lol cause now it's recommending shorts from like two or three years ago

[@mathis3440]

I can’t look at a sound without TikTok feeding me nothing but that sound for 20 posts straight

[@winterburden]

Thanks for ranting about Tik Tok so we don't have to Swell!

[@justsummers1559]

This 😂

[@КГБКолДжорджКостанца]

My my my

[@the_newt_nest]

The rot economy. Also saying 'sl/t posting' on TikTok (or here) should not warrant a ban. Advertising has made society so damn puritanical. So puritanical that you accept that such a thing is worth a ban.

[@taniyareed3480]

I deleted tik tok earlier this year because the addiction to it was taking over my life. I just got the urge to want to go back on it because people were referencing the demure trend in real life. And for the first time I had no idea what they were talking about lol I still don’t but I’m actually glad! And this video has reminded me why I should never go back! My brain thanks you 🙏

[@frenzy2061]

I've only just gotten tiktok after years of restraint. And while I like that there's so much content on it, I also feel discouraged to actually engage with content I like because I know the second I like something, or watch it for too long it's gonna take up like 80% of my fyp. As much as I like a thing, I don't want that thing to be the only thing I see. Like I legitmately stopped engaging with content of a show I adore because I was sick of seeing it SO much. I also watched one of those text to speech reddit story videos for just a little bit too long and then they started appearing every other video, I didn't even like it or share it or anything. It's so frustrating.

[@Madison-ur2qn]

I hate the way apps are stealing the worst ideas from each other. Twitch recently changed to be more like TikTok in how it presents livestreams to you

[@__________yuyu]

They should just remove the option to select "Not Interested" because it straight up does not do anything. I long press and choose this option on every single video or LIVE I don't want to see and it does absolutely nothing. It's just a constant onslaught of content I do not care about and will never meaningfully interact with. People begging for money, people trying to drag out a 30 second story because they're desperate for viewers to watch up to the minute mark, people repeatedly slapping the same 3 pop songs over any random content they can think of, just pure garbage that the app doesn't let you filter out. The idea of curating your FYP or "training the algorithm" is just an illusion.

[@user74027nh]

Tbh I'm convinced it does the opposite because they know that inflammatory content drives engagement. It's pretty much never worked even before tiktok got this bad.

[@raethereviewer]

I’ve been on Tik Tok for almost 4 years and my engagement has been AWFUL for months. I haven’t even had a viral video, under 500 views on videos and a random 4,000 view video despite having 24k followers. The vast majority of people who want to see my content aren’t seeing it

[@firstlast9846]

*If I have to see* The “BOOM” “Costco Guys” one more time I fear the man I may become.

[@x_VineM_x]

😂😂 I dont even know what this means but I cant stop laughing. Lol

[@hudsonsheldrake530]

Also what I’ve noticed is that if I like one singular video about a product on tiktok shop then everything after that is about the product it’s insane like it’s like 20 videos about it

[@fabihachowdhury8499]

Omg same - I’ve been getting a lot of ads and lives about Made By Mitchell products when I liked a video showing the drip drip blursh

[@hudsonsheldrake530]

@@fabihachowdhury8499it’s been happening with me for the shadow work notebook

[@moneypro85]

There is a wig chasing me all around tiktok. I switched back to Instagram

[@lunaloynaz-lopez2318]

@@moneypro85😂😂😂😂😂

[@Pumpkins_sketches]

I whip my fyp back into shape with thirst trap edits of characters that I’m currently obsessed with

[@DemicornWhimsy]

I keep getting people trying to sell me something and lives, and now I'm just bored with it.

[@samuraibeluga3749]

i feel like apps and platforms in general are becoming worse, and borderline anti consumer. like youtube is not much better. and i dont even mean in regards to not recommending channels you are subscribed to, people really like to complain about that, but i mean theres a tab called subscriptions where everything will show up there, its not like its impractical. but the biggest issue is just variety of content it recommends you aswell. i remember discovering interesting smaller channels back in the day in the good ol youtube rabbit holes where you would just follow the recommended videos on the recommended tab, nowadays it either just recommends you more of what creator you are watching, more of the same type of content or just the normal stuff on your front page, wich also sucks in terms of variety. and the worst part there used to be a time where you could somewhat manipulate the algorythm, but now it feels like a never ending battle where i wither constantly do it, or eventually is just gonna regress to a default state wich now usually has an agenda behind it, like for example the shops.

[@GantaaOhime]

The locked into one topic is what I've experienced with google ads. I'll buy a thing, and then for weeks get advertised alternatives. I ALREADY HAVE THE THING. I'm not buying a new couch after buying a new couch

[@laurathiele9591]

Everytime Swell comes out with a new rant video of Tik Tok, it makes me feel so much better for never getting on the Tik Tok bandwagon...Im happily tik tok free, it just sucks that a lot of my favorite content creators ditched long form content for short form content and/or left to go to tik tok..I get it but on the same token it drives me bonkers because I refuse to follow them over to that platform and then Im stuck trying to find other people within the same vein that are equally as enjoyable to watch and post long form....thank goodness for swell, gmm, smosh, evan and katelyn, hot ones, etc

[@m1k3y48]

I miss the full length Vsauce videos. He does a lot of shorts but I mostly just gloss over those (not interested in shorts in general) so I tend to miss them.

[@placeholderdoe]

@@m1k3y48his shorts are pretty funny in my opinion but I get it, shorts just by nature have less substance

[@ImNotHere222]

My time spent on TikTok has almost halved several times in the last 6 months. Everyone is selling you something, and that something is nothing. It's junk. Garbage. A formerly $5 product marked up and back down to a false sale of $45. Why are mass-produced ghost figurine night lights that you plug into an outlet almost $30? Because everyone needs to get their piece of the pie before the consumer ultimately receives their massively overpriced garbage.

[@kittikat4124]

It feels like they're just trying to suck as much money out of it as they can before they get banned, which, obviously, is hurting anyone using the app. I rarely ever go on it any more and like you said, if I dont immediately swipe past a video, then I just get the same content over and over for a week. The algorithm is seriously broken especially when you consider how it was hailed as the best algorithm of the various platforms. It's a mess and I really don't think tiktok cares

[@AM-em5gc]

Enshittification hits another app!

[@azoreaneve4777]

"it's truly baffling to see an app keep getting bad like this" oh you mean like tumblr? maybe like discord? twitter perhaps?

[@randomtinypotatocried]

Instagram definitely

[@summerchild_]

Keep tumblr's name out of your mouth. It's always been this bad.

[@dieSchreckschraube]

Tumblr has so much potential, it's the only social media that so effortlessly lets you share many formats of content. Too bad it fell off in popularity, especially since other places are way more toxic (Twitter, Reddit).

[@summerchild_]

@@dieSchreckschraube tumblr Is alive and well, is still active

[@magscorner]

I honestly find it interesting how European/Scandinavian tiktok is different then American, i havnet seen a single tt shop video, only people complaining about it my fyp is usually Americans tough i think. I also however periodically uninstall tiktok since it makes me feel bad about just exiting sometimes

[@racheldare.]

I will never get tired of hearing Amanda talk about TikTok because it validates my continued refusal to make an account

[@ChrissyTinaT]

Between the QVC style lives that keep popping up every other video and the almost intentional lag sometimes when it's a video you're trying to press down to hit "not interested", it'll keep showing you more because you watched it long enough. Like, if it let me actually select "not interested" in time, this wouldn't be an issue. And I swear there's something going on where it swipes you into the shop tab despite you clearly swiping up on your feed. It really is becoming frustrating to even scroll on there, let alone post. Although, I have noticed a weird black mirror thing where sometimes I'll verbally complain about something and close out of the app, then suddenly when I reopen the app the problem is resolved, if only for a brief moment.

[@Papersak]

I just feel like tiktok creators stopped caring about creativity since the app handed out money at all. You could say the same about most social media. Tiktok sounded especially bad for pushing misinfo, ragebait, drama, product placements, and even bite-sized chaotic creativity all because it was what got clicks, not because it's what they're passionate about.

[@wintercaptain]

The comment about TikTok now being Twitter: Video Edition hits the nail on the head. I used to be a small-ish tiktok creator (12.8k followers at my peak) but I've since privated my account and stopped posting entirely, with the exception of the occasional mutuals-only post. I posting slowed initially because other things were happening in my life and TikTok was no longer a major priority, and I wasn't really getting any traction on most of my cosplay or alt fashion videos anymore anyways. Then Hazbin Hotel came out, and first I saw the cosplays, and then I saw the comments *responding* to the cosplays. People were *mean*. And then I saw cosplayers responding to them, and people talking about how people now post "cringe content" (read: fans of things having fun being fans of things) that they've farmed from conventions, or how they'd gone viral because someone decided to put them on TikTok for being "cringe". In the time I'd been away, the audience for cosplays on TikTok had moved from genuine fans of things also having fun to people who wanted to mock a person's appearance or comment things like "brainrot" when someone is expressive in cosplay. At that point, I decided to private my account and leave it behind. While I'm not really upset by people commenting those things, I didn't want to be in the middle of an environment that negative. I think the only reason that I'm still on TikTok is because I have mutuals I've bonded with, and sending videos that made me think of them is an easy way to keep in touch with people. Which sucks, because I genuinely love the core mechanic of TikTok: filming silly little videos to music

[@TheLexikitty]

agree with all of this, creativity died on TikTok a while ago

[@annaxoats6479]

a few years ago i had to cut back on my time on tiktok bc it was just a constant stream of generally enjoyable dopamine hits. now i have once again cut back on my time on tiktok but mostly because i see so many mean spirited discourse videos. it's draining.

[@themaiker_]

It’s so frustrating trying to use the app knowing how it used to be! I hate the ads at the end of long videos and now I’m also getting ads whenever I open the app. Like I literally have to click a button to skip it and start scrolling! Idk how companies think advertising works but when I’m constantly getting inundated with ads that makes makes me want to check out their product much less

[@Nicolee_t18]

As someone who has never downloaded tik tok and doesnt ever have plans to let it crash and burn. KZbin needs its content back

[@chickennuggetpaw]

Omg the thing about tiktok being filled with people looking for bad faith in everything is so true. I will admit I can be a very negative and irritable person, and tiktok is even too negative for ME. So who is it for?? All it does is piss me off.

[@jspihlman]

I agree so much with what you said. Get your bag, but also the QVC-ification of Tiktok is super annoying. Forcing people to do Tiktok shop, fake fights, stay on live as long as possible, and the NPC characters... it's just so repetitive and it's so boring!

[@Inna_98]

I’ve never downloaded TikTok and I never will, let alone now, the idea of just mindlessly scrolling through an app that pushes random shit in any shape or form they want, instead of letting me just search for and engage with content that I’m genuinely interested in (like you do on KZbin), seems utterly braindead to me as a user

[@mrtiredeyes]

I enjoy it when you talk about TikTok because I do NOT use it, and it's such a big platform, I think it's good to keep up. I made a handful of videos in 2020, and still occasionally post my main content on there. But I refuse to download the app and get lost scrolling. I already have ADHD, and the hold that short form content has is highly uncomfortable to my already fragile attention span

[@Faizaan_H]

I hate the tiktok livestreams, I get the most random shit and always somehow accidentally click into it. I would 100% turn off the entire feature if I could, if I was into watching livestreams I would go on twitch

[@seanmcgcostumes]

As someone who has never been on the clock app and never will, even *I* have seen this coming for a long time now. You know it’s bad when even someone who doesn’t use the app could see it coming because of the volume of users talking about the awful ways it’s been going downhill for so long.

[@sdsh990]

I gave up on tiktok when I started getting multiple notifications a day saying "I feel so bad for him/her"

[@TonyBurgess1969]

This makes me feel good about never having it on my phone.

[@azbutterfield2026]

"The beanie babies that were somehow also pole dancers." Stop. What.

[@agustinalima]

Apps like Tik Tok or Pinterest are very different in certain countries. I live in a small country so I get the modern layout of the app but none of the shop features, pushing of lives, etc. I barely get ads and only get my interests in my for you page alongside some very popular videos (mostly interesting or funny ones). Whenever I travel I don’t open any social media app cause I get bombarded with stuff and I can’t be bothered. So the moral of the story is that if they wanted to they would :)

[@myBquest]

I just realized Amazon does this too, and that's why I never had Tiktok and I stopped using Amazon months ago 😭 it's a whole lot of information about products or stuff that I don't want. Facebook had lately changed it's algorithm too. I don't know how to explain what happened but I have sensory issues and it became a lot to me. At least on Instagram I can still search for images and decide what I want to watch. Social media is dying honestly.

[@Customs4488]

Tiktok has always been worse, this isn't surprising.

[@SockDrawerDemon]

There's no tiktok shop in Australia (to my knowledge), so I don't see much of that - but I've used up all my block tags. And the blocked tags also aren't blocked, just 'see less'. Nightmare.

[@misterkite]

"This shit I'm eating doesn't taste right".

[@EvillivyArt]

I'm starting to feel like all these websites are using the same awful algorithm. I've noticed that same trend of forcefeeding you only 1 thing you've interacted with on youtube, insta, and even Pinterest.

[@taegan.]

dude i’ve noticed the same thing!!!! it’s so frustrating, also trying to search something on pinterest, like good luck finding ANYTHING

[@annieinks]

As an art content creator, I went from posting every day to now almost never 😂 It’s not consistent or predictable… Now with the link issue, that means that there is truly no reason for me to post. 🤷🏼‍♀️ People can’t access my merch, patreon, or commission links so why would I post??? 😂

[@ZeroN1neZero]

I haven’t been using tiktok for long but i hate it immensely. I added my phone number and immediately disconnected the ‘show me my contacts’ thing and literally every day i’ve had to block relatives i no longer speak to because they said yeah we don’t care, here’s your cousins! I did get a 40k+ views yesterday on a post compared to a normal 750 and that was neat tho🤷🏽‍♀️👍🏽

[@ikukasahara3610]

I watched one LotR edit a couple of times a few days ago and now 80% of my feed are LotR edits, the repetition of one subject is so real

[@22wolves22]

This Entertainment should be Swell

[@Alltheworldsillz]

The seller emails!!!! The number one thing I regret about joining TikTok and trying out TikTok shop

[@JackieWarner13]

Glad TikTok shop isn't a thing in Australia. Yeah getting multiple lives in a row now is kinda annoying.

[@dylersol]

one of the few times i'm happy to not receive new features because of my location, the tiktok shop. *thank. shit.* patriotism time, i guess. woooooooo australia

[@Randombystanderhere]

This was honestly a huge problem when a political video popped on my Fyp! Just one fear mongering video showed up that I watched a little too long, and then next 10 posts would involve people talking about that same topic. It was video doomscrolling and it eventually caused me to leave the platform

[@bryan._.isheree]

Also another thing, why when I go on the following tab and scroll a couple videos all of a sudden it says “you’ve watched all the new videos” or something like that, I’m like there’s no way in hell out of the 200 ppl I follow there’s only 5 new videos???!?!!!!!! Like are they getting shadowbanned wtf, atp I don’t even remember all the tiktokers I follow because I only see videos from like 10 of them

[@dylersol]

i find a lot of the time i don't get recommended videos from my mutuals, even.... tiktok, i know that jar posted his weird oatmeal rank. ....like i know that's a friend of mine but i want to see more than just content from my friends i'm mutuals with??? what's the point of having my ~20-ish mutuals if i can only see six of them? it's not that they don't post, 'cause i know they do. it's so weird. no content from accounts i follow, nothing from mutuals, just reposts and memes about two games i like??? really???? it's fine but idk i want more variety and to actually see ppl i follow's content.

[@Paige-xd1yv]

I feel you're spot on with how the FYP works especially with watching one thing a little too long. I watched one video of Katseye just wondering who tf is that? and now im entrenched in it and i'm like ?? okay, i haven't even listened to a full song from them but here's 10 videos in a row

[@Lizrich3303]

my annoyance with tiktok right now is that 75% of the videos on my fyp are those split screen stolen content. and it annoys me cause 1. don't steal content 2. I don't want to see those, i would like original content please 3. its the algorithm problem you said about how if the video is there for 10 seconds then they keep coming so I cant get rid of them.

[@ElizabethNicoleSchwartz]

I've definitely noticed that too. You can literally watch just part of a video and then it consumes your for you page. It drives me nuts.

[@ME_K.O]

Just algorithms in general are exhausting

[@kaitlyn4254]

Not to mention, has anyone else noticed that ads are more sensitive than regular videos, so if you don’t swipe perfectly, it brings you out of the app to the ad page?? Infuriating

[@somegeese]

lol the speedrun of capitalism ruining social media happening on tiktok is, in some respects, really god damned funny.

[@chrissyo.5522]

Ive never had tiktok. Looks like I'll continue this trend 😅. I'm sorry the app has become so frustrating for you as a creator Swell, but I'm sure glad to watch you here on KZbin.

[@ChillyKitty]

'twitter video' is the perfect way to describe tiktok now, i barely check either anymore because im going to see someone being an egregious asshole within 5 minutes of opening the app

[@IndieAlpaca]

I have a similar problem when going live; just the word "gay" can get you banned. I got banned a LOT because I'm a queer creator and eventualy I'm gonna talk about my identity on a stream.

[@Avrilandosanders]

I have a friend who likes to send me silly tiktoks they find. Before i was able to click the link and watch the videos without an account but the last few months i just get auto directed to the app download page. Instead i have to manually type out the link on my pc if i want to watch. Like i get having limited accessibility without logging in but wouldnt you still want some moblie sharing?

[@FirstnameLastname-pv8il]

perfect timing lol, just deleted tiktok because i spent a whole day and a half "not interesting" every single video i didnt like (which was pretty much all of them) and my feed instead of getting better just showed me more ads/lives/stories, on top of edits of fandoms i've NEVER even heard of. just deleted it and now i'm sticking with insta reels

[@hannahcatto]

So I never use TikTok for my own mental health (very demure, very mindful) but my friend sent me one the other day, so I went to watch it and decided I wanted to see what the state of TikTok was. Chappell Roan showed up 2 mins later so of course I went to follow her. I then noticed that the next few videos were all Chappell related, so I counted how many in a row, it was 13. Then a couple Reddit videos, then 8 more Chappell Roan videos in a row. This was 2 days ago. (Also I’m not complaining, I love Chappell Roan!)

[@savannah115]

I cut back on basically all social media because of tve prioritization of rage bait and bad faith actors. Also I'm SO sick of being advertised to. It's getting so ads have the exact opposite effect on me as intended, and I actively avoid products pushing their ads. Anyway, my entire life has improved, I'm not exaggerating. I'm in a better mood, way less anxious, which means I go out and do things with people, which improves my mood further, and has made me truly productive outside of work for the first time since covid started. I have a garden! And I'm reading again! I actually respond to texts! Highly recommend a social media fast, or at least a diet. Life doesn't seem like it totally sucks anymore; it's wild.

[@SemiIocon]

If you are not paying for a service, you are the product.

[@hannabeth151]

I personally don't use tick tock it's not even on my phone. I feel the same thing is happening on Instagram and it's really getting bad

[@hannabeth151]

And also, I haven't been seeing my normal people in my reels until it's with an ad

[@creaturefeaturecosplay]

My experience on tiktok: I downloaded it, opened it, it autoplayed with sound, I closed it, and uninstalled it. Short videos are not for me

[@biteofdog]

IG is getting worse because of all the stupid short videos on it being promoted over any of the things I'm subscribed to.

[@pingasimmaculate]

Literally! There is nothing I despise more than videos autoplaying or looping. I really tried giving TikTok a chance, but I just couldn’t get used to it. It seems crazy to me that others become so addicted to it.