Switch 2, Holiday 2024. Here's Why.

[@tommytoon_stories]

If the "switch 2" does come out next year, i do hope its backwards compatible with the OG switch games so the transfer is easier

[@godnamedtay]

Thanks for sharing…from literally everyone

[@jeffboy4231]

if it doesn't it will be a DUMPSTER fire, tbh i just don't see any way this would ever happen, not only did they just release their biggest game (TOTK) but also are they still releasing good games, and you would think they would just port games from a year ago? also nintendo has a really good track record of having backwards compatibility.

[@epitome99]

​@@jeffboy4231what previous systems were backwards compatible physically...?

[@hwasnesky9611]

@@epitome99gbc could play gb, i believe gba could play both gb and gbc, original ds and lite could play gba, wii could play gamecube, 3ds could play ds

[@RunnyElephant44]

I hope if that is the case if it's true

[@solomon9655]

I think the smartest deign is if the Switch 2 is to the Switch how the 3ds was to the ds. Reverse compatible and previous Gen games are still developed for a couple years after the fact. A huge selling point would be if Switch 2 could run Switch games way better. The ds was so big it took the 3ds a while to become successful, but once it did it was the biggest console in the world.

[@Amari_14]

Isn't that what all consoles do now though?

[@jemandetwas1]

@@Amari_14 it is, but this is Nintendo we're talking about here. They like not doing the obvious and smart thing

[@ericthomas2388]

Lets see Nintendo continue to follow the tradition of completely fucking up every other generation.

[@Amari_14]

@@jemandetwas1 didn't Nintendo already do that with the 3ds and Wiiu 😭

[@kale280]

@@Amari_14Wii u should have been called wii 2 . It would’ve solved EVERYTHING

[@calvinbrinenestoris2357]

I think launching pre-holiday actually makes a lot of sense. The fans who will buy the system day one no matter what won't be competing with the people who get it for the holiday. Additionally, if the system launches earlier in the year, then they'll have much more games FOR the system once the Holidays DO come. I also think Prime 4 will be a switch 2 launch title and I don't want to wait another year and a half after waiting so long already.

[@Ma1akai]

absolutely, they would want to minimize the chance of scalping

[@chrisdlp2287]

Yup agreed. Spring 2025 i can bet on that being the release date

[@sushi-oe4em]

@@chrisdlp2287Looks like you are right

[@therandomnarwhal]

It feels right timing wise. We have a lot of series that feel like we aren’t getting another major release on the system, and the budget games (still great games but smaller budget!) seem more on the rise. Kirby, 3D Mario, Mario Party, the next Pokémon, stuff like that feels like it’s in the wings waiting for the switch 2 to drop

[@Road_to_Dawn]

Not to mention, Metroid Prime 4 as well

[@Cheri_Blast]

​@@Road_to_DawnAt this point, I see them making Prime 4 a cross-gen title, similar to BotW - being in development for so long, its completion is around the next system's release, so may as well put it on both

[@ThomasCuerden]

I get your point, but we got Kirby and the Forgotten Land, and Pokemon S & V last year. In fact, part of the problem people have with the latest Pokémon is that it was rushed and under developed. If there's a new Pokémon game next year, the result could be the same.

[@charlottekolokombo2892]

I'm like spagetghti so do you

[@henryorlowski5004]

mario kart 9!

[@KeaganZev]

Time sure does fly. I remember buying my switch at midnight with my co-workers. Got BOTW and a pro controller...best purchase ever.

[@RhythmGrizz]

Honestly yeah

[@gonko638]

Got my switch in 2018 before heading into 6th grade and played smash bros for days with my friends. Now I'm a senior in high school. Hope you feel old now!

[@protocetid]

You bought BoTW instead of the CD-i Zelda games? Take off the avatar you fake CD-i Zelda fan! /joke

[@florisdamen5714]

I got mine in 2019 with Pokémon Shield.

[@stockyirish]

I think no new 3d Mario yet is the main hint for me. It feels like we should have had an Odyssey 2 or whatever by now. Saving it for the next console explains things. I'm super hype for Wonder though.

[@jameslawrenson1208]

Same.

[@IDK3679.]

I have to ask why do you think there will be a sequel to Odyssey

[@stockyirish]

@Some_guy213 I don't necessarily think the next 3d Mario game will be a sequel to Odyssey. I certainly wouldn't mind and it'd be easier for them to develop reusing some assets from Odyssey BUT I said "or whatever" to indicate that I don't know what kind of 3d Mario will be next.

[@QnjtGWonQNqVsbYyzjx4]

The June direct actually announced a bunch of major game like super Mario bros wonder which could’ve been saved for the next console, that definitely reduced the possibility, also directing us for 3D Mario news on switch at September(Odyssey DLC or the next game), of course it’s not a certainty but it’s a factor

[@darrenmacqueen9884]

@QnjtGWonQNqVsbYyzjx4 The Switch still needs something for the last year of it's lifespan. But all we have coming up are 2D sidescrollers and remakes/remasters. Which take significantly less time and resources to develop. I'm sure they are saving their bigger stuff for the next console.

[@rhyspieces5718]

This isn’t Pikmin 4….

[@ravenebony2267]

I know, right?

[@Sashitoge]

"These things, they take time." -Gabe Newell

[@rhyspieces5718]

@@Sashitogefair

[@jonathanwilson7949]

This is Switch 4

[@Barquevious_Jackson]

HE HATES IT!

[@TimelessTimothy]

This is an exceptionally well-argued video regarding the future of the Switch. I appreciate how honest Arlo was about what he truly felt (per usual), while still maintaining a sense of openness. Frankly, back in 2022, when some people online were constantly saying that a new version of the Switch (like a "Switch Pro" or a new system entirely) should release in 2023, I still felt that it would be "too soon" for a successor (or a semi-successor), despite its increasing age. In a sense, I didn't want to feel any "FOMO" for a new console, and I felt more comfortable with the Switch being Nintendo's main focus; plus, at the time, the 9th console generation was still finding its footing. Now, however, considering how even more Switch games have had performance limitations/restrictions _(like Sonic Frontiers, which I _*_don't_*_ believe the current Switch was made to handle),_ I'm much more prepared for a holiday 2024 release, as I've steadily left the "too soon" crowd since the start of 2023. Like Arlo said very well, I believe that Holiday 2024 is a great time to release the new Switch--and personally speaking--especially since I would be fully capable of saving up for it myself (by that time). I think it would be unreasonable for Nintendo to wait any longer, and risk running over their immense success yet again.

[@ChickenNuggetCancer]

To be Honest Frontiers looks terrible. Well that’s a little harsh but it doesn’t look GREAT. The Switch version actually runs somewhat decent too like y’know it’s the Switch it ain’t gonna run flawlessly but I mean it’s a good port. It kinda looks like it’d belong on the Switch anyways with how the world and visuals are. But yeah the Switch 2 releasing late next year is great timing and could give devs enough preparation to port their games over and as well as being able to manufacture enough of them.

[@MintopiaSystem]

We absolutely cannot have more games that perform like Pokemon Violet did at launch. If new hardware is necessary to avoid that, so be it imo.

[@LARAUJO_0]

I have Frontiers on the Switch and it runs fine. Honestly, Minecraft is probably the game my Switch has the most issue with performance-wise

[@TimelessTimothy]

@@LARAUJO_0 While I don't play Minecraft on Switch, I definitely agree with your comment on Sonic Frontiers; in docked mode (my preferred way to play Frontiers and most of my Switch games), it can have some genuinely great-looking moments! Nonetheless, I still wish the regular Switch had stronger performance, and hopefully, the Switch successor should address that issue sufficiently (while having direct backwards compatibility).

[@TotallyJerrySeinfeld]

Happy to hear you’re getting better Arlo, we all appreciate you!

[@deanmoriarty6015]

jerry?!

[@mrhobs]

Jerry’s profile pic seems a little sus… lol

[@DanGamingFan2406]

Glad you're feeling better, Arlo. Only one more year before thethe next console, huh? I hope it improves on the Switch in every way, and that Mario Odyssey 2 is a launch title.

[@The_SOB_II]

I just hope that it doesn't end up being one of those moments where everybody is expecting Nintendo to do one thing and it ends up doing something completely different

[@withoutthejuice7193]

@@The_SOB_IIlet’s just prepare ourselves for that to happen

[@RhythmGrizz]

It has a chance to be

[@QnjtGWonQNqVsbYyzjx4]

Odyssey 2 would have released on the switch in 2020, It doesn’t have the scope for 6 years of the development like tears of the kingdom and it’s certainly not on the switch successor because people won’t see it as a reason to buy it.

[@The_SOB_II]

@@QnjtGWonQNqVsbYyzjx4 True, they always want to innovate with the 3D Mario titles. But there likely is still a 3D Mario in the works even if it's not Odyssey 2 specifically

[@Jaekization]

I think it’ll be a Sept release, Metroid Prime 4 cross gen launch title, a couple smaller games for launch, 3D Mario in November. Wouldn’t be surprised if Pokken Tournament 2 is a launch title or Jan/Feb 2025 release.

[@giganticmoon]

We’re not getting prime 4 anytime soon, dude.

[@mjc0961]

lol you think we're getting Prime 4

[@ChickenNuggetCancer]

Prime 4 definitely isn’t a launch title. There needs to be a big heavy hitter like Zelda or Mario and it’s most likely going to be Mario.

[@NoName-zo6zr]

Why does everyone think prime 4 is still years away? Development restarted over 4 years ago

[@giganticmoon]

@@NoName-zo6zr It’s because you know Nintendo doesn’t love Metroid like that, so stop dreaming, or just get better dreams.

[@mitwhitgaming7722]

I honestly haven't bought an OLED because I know as soon as I buy one they are gonna announce Switch 2! 😅

[@saxoman1]

Please buy one so we can get that release date! 😂

[@Jojo8.]

Me too i still have my switch from 2017. Im saving my 400 bucks for the new system

[@jeffboy4231]

i mean i didn't buy one cause of this and also cause i can just dump my games and emulate them for more comfort and performance, but for some time to time handheld gaming is the normal switch completly fine imo lol

[@zacharymccoy7091]

I really think Prime 4 could be a launch title for Swtch 2. Its starting to look like a real possibility.

[@z.amelius]

My bet on launch titles would be Prime 4, a new 3D Mario, a Zelda (my bet would be a remaster instead of a new game, maybe Ocarina of Time), a host of classic Nintendo ports, and maybe an Animal Crossing game since they dropped New Horizons so quickly. I'm definitely excited to see what they come out with; it was an experience like no other when the switch launched.

[@Neoxon619]

Not alone, Metroid isn’t a big enough franchise for that.

[@QnjtGWonQNqVsbYyzjx4]

The launch is gonna be Donkey Kong

[@chlorophyllphile]

I think it is going to launch on both switch 2 and switch, like botw launched on both switch and wii u.

[@Icybubba]

Launch titles will be Metroid Prime 4, a Zelda remaster, Pokemon, and then either 3D Mario or Mario Kart 9. That's my guess.

[@FedoraKirb]

You were _so_ close on the difference between Gen 8 and 9… it IS the overall performance. Graphically Gen 9 looks a little bit better, but performance and optimization wise is LEAGUES above Gen 8. Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart represents that really well, as the amount of stuff happening on screen, the instantly loading pocket dimensions, and the improved enemy behavior on harder difficulties showcase the PS5’s vastly superior performance; games like Ratchet & Clank would have to make huge mechanical and spectacle compromises to run on PS4 in the BEST case scenarios, and at worst, just wouldn’t be possible on weaker hardware. Hecc, the pocket dimensions ALONE are a full (or at least, closer) realization of a stunted mechanic from A Crack in Time on the PS3.

[@Sunkii]

literally this

[@jonathanwilson7949]

Jedi survivor and god of war ragnarok both are coming or came to ps4. Rift apart might be the exception but graphics wise there’s little to no difference and I’m sure ratchet and clank could run of ps4 with a lot of work. That’s the problem with this gen. Nothing feels new anymore.

[@FedoraKirb]

@@jonathanwilson7949 “I’m sure graphics wise Ratchet could run on PS4” Sure, if you’re willing to greatly compromise on a lot of the game’s mechanics and visuals. Last-gen ports are easier to make because you don’t have to go in and remake the textures and models with lower fidelity, but they also run really poorly compred to their current gen version because there’s so much more going on.

[@jonathanwilson7949]

@@FedoraKirb yep that’s how it would be ported 😂 you don’t have to buy it if you don’t want to

[@cherubin7th]

Very useless. Many games faked this business and it just liked as good. R&C just made it very inefficiently.

[@nytrobros.4810]

The main things I want from the Switch 2 1. Backwards Compatibility 2. Game Designs on the side of the cases 3. A New Donkey Kong Game

[@capo5005]

It isn't fair to judge past decisions on present knowledge. Don't feel bad you're not right all the time Arlo, we LOVE that you take a stab at it. Keep your predictions coming!

[@RedMage8BT]

I agree about Prime 4. I think the original plan (after the restart of development) was to launch it with the Switch Pro in 2022, but as you said, 2020 happened. I also think Tears of the Kingdom and Pokemon ScarVi were designed for the Switch Pro as well.

[@Menorahdude]

This makes a lot of sense, since totk was delayed and pokemon run bad.

[@wintersong2266]

One thing I'm hoping is of course backward compatibility. But I also want them to continue the Switch Online where they left off. It feel like we're only now getting a somewhat decent library of retro games. If they pull the plug like they did with Virtual Console and start over then it would feel like the slow drip feed was not justified in any metric. It only make sense if they were holding back because they knew this library had to last for more than one generation.

[@superlounging]

Nothing you haven't heard before, I'm sure, but backwards compatibility will be huge here. There has already been a massive effort to make older titles accessible for the modern console; it's only natural that it carry over.

[@mrhobs]

Yeah that’s gonna make a huge difference as to how well the next console is received, and how fast it sells. I know I won’t be buying immediately without backward compatibility. May wait til year 2 or later even. Mainly because I’m already satisfied with my super fun backlog. I’m not as addicted to buying all the latest games as perhaps I once was.

[@morgankeiser]

I have the white box switch, and as much as I absolutely adore Tears of the Kingdom, there are times where the switch STRUGGLES to maintain a playable frame rate. Unsure if this is true for the red box switch and OLED, but frame rate is definitely becoming an issue as switch games become more advanced.

[@michaellovesmarvel]

It does sadly have that on all switches I had a red box switch and before it was stolen I remember it did have a incredible amount of frame rate issues and why the oled is a tad bit better it still has the same issues.

[@jemandetwas1]

They should have the same performance 90% of the time. The V2 Switch has better memory, which usually doesn't make a noticeable difference.

[@porkchops-tube]

@@jemandetwas1RAM isnt the only thing that affects performance

[@jemandetwas1]

@@porkchops-tube Do the Switches have any other functional difference without overclocking?

[@M4ssExtinction]

Wow I remember watching your channel from when you were starting! well done on building up an audience

[@yawn.94]

Time flies

[@nostalgialodeon9305]

I just hope this new console will be actually powerful and not outdated as quick as the switch was and is

[@solomon9655]

It would be so funny if it got emulated day one

[@jonathanwilson7949]

It would be so beautiful

[@Jaekization]

Agreed, but the Switch was really all it needed to be for many years. I’d argue it was only the last 2 years where people really started to be as vocal as they are about it. It’s been a fantastic console

[@creeperwithstyle]

I don't think it will be, especially if they want it to be portable just like the switch.

[@twinkie415]

i still love my Switch! :p

[@shadeblackwolf1508]

To me, this year's e3 direct really felt like an end of life lineup. mostly shorter dev time games. I think prime 4 was targetting to be a switch pro exclusive, and needed the hardware bump for graphics reasons. when that got canned, it was reslotted, possibly as a launch title for switch 2. maybe alongside th enext big mario which is due

[@cubedmelons876]

There's no way Metroid Prime 4 is gonna skip the current Switch. That would cause an uproar on the level of Jan 6th. People bought their Switch in 2017 in anticipation of that game. It would be like if Nintendo canned the Wii U version of BotW. I'm thinking cross-gen.

[@shadeblackwolf1508]

@@cubedmelons876 I can see that, but at this point there is no way it gets a release as just a switch game anymore.

[@phazonphlakes]

Can confirm I bought a switch in 2017 for prime 4. Definitely want it on switch 2 for the graphic upgrade but man waiting so long just to have it on switch 2 only with no way to play would be a bummer. We all know the scalpers are going to make switch 2 a nightmare to get ahold of.

[@greenhill004]

@@phazonphlakes Here's an idea, buy the system when the game you want is released.

[@darkscot1338]

​@@greenhill004did that with the Wii U. Bought the switch instead.

[@SilverSpireZ]

Nintendo would be insane to let such outdated hardware last longer than 2024. When even their first party games are struggling as much as they are, there’s no more excuses. And of course, backwards compatibility is a must. They could get away without it after the Wii U, but not this time… But this is Nintendo, so they’ll probably do the exact opposite of what people expect them to do…

[@leeartlee915]

Do you actually get what it would take from an engineering and fiscal stand point to make the follow up system 100% backwards compatible? You do realize it’s more than “just make it a thing”, right?

[@giganticmoon]

If you want it to be backwards compatible with every single nintendo system, and make this new one run using discs, not only will the console be EXPENSIVE, but will also have so many slots that it’ll be weird.

[@Tremuoso]

@@leeartlee915 what year do you think we're living in? all the games run on the same chips, same architectures same graphics codecs and software drivers. it's not the 90s where you've got radically different everything from one generation to the next. there's no good reason why new hardware couldn't run switch games.

[@jeffboy4231]

@@giganticmoon i really don't think they ever said that, they are just saying it should have backwards compatibility with the switch (which will 100% happen tbh)

[@datdamndog389]

@@giganticmoon what makes you think backwards compatibility means that its backwards compatible with every nintendo console that came before? usually backwards compatability is just being compatible with the console that came right before, in this case the switch.

[@shyguypro9876]

From what we've seen of the Peach game, I honestly think it'll take inspiration from classic Magical Girl anime (Your Sailor Moons, Card Captor Sakuras, etc.), which if you think about it, making Peach into a Magical Girl is such a god damn brilliant idea it's crazy they haven't done it sooner.

[@Robin0928]

I'll still maintain my theory that Metroid Prime 4 had another restart of development in 2020-ish to pivot the game to the next Nintendo system, but it wasn't announced to ease fears about the game.

[@mjc0961]

I'll still maintain my theory that Metroid Prime 4 was quietly cancelled and we're never going to see or hear about it again.

[@Robin0928]

@user-jl7xj5iz9k yeah, and I think they decided to not say anything because they knew a *second* restart being announced, even for something like "we want to make this for the next Nintendo system" would be deafcon 1 for Nintendo fans

[@calvinbrinenestoris2357]

@@mjc0961 Why wouldn't they tell us about that if they did tell us about the restart? It's still says "in development" on the website, they said they were still working on it when they announced Metroid Dread, Retro Studios put up that Prime 4 twitter banner up last year and it's still there, there's been a multitude of Retro Studios job listings that were stated as being for Prime 4, people who worked at Retro have been putting Prime 4 on their resume, and a poll for people who bought Metroid Prime Remastered MENTIONED Prime 4. Games take 4-6 years to develop, we're in year 4 currently, and they can't announce it yet if it's on the Switch 2 because that hasn't been announced yet either. Be optimistic, we'll be bathing in it's glory soon brother. Our wait is almost at an end.

[@Stump85]

@@mjc0961 On their recent investor report, they listed it along with all the recently announced games, with it's release date listed as TBA. So, while we have no idea how it's coming along or when to expect it, it definitely hasn't been canceled.

[@squiddu]

I'm not sure they would do a full restart. Assuming whatever in-house engines were used were made to be put on the next-gen Switch, I do believe development was probably pushed back to keep things prepared for a launch on better hardware.

[@Spatu10]

So glad you’re recovering Arlo, hope you’re back to full soon

[@phendan]

Just wanted to let you know I'm genuinely glad and relieved you're on the mend. Hope you continue to get better!

[@faygo619]

I’d like to see a dock with hardware that boosts the performance for the TV to hit higher resolutions. Seems much easier to pull off without the size restrictions of the handheld. Skipping on backward compatibility would leave so much on the table. Much easier to sell a new system when the player base already has several games that would run better, plus getting the new gen games. Go the New 3DS route.

[@Divector8]

The Switch already does that in a way. When docked the Switch is no longer trying to maximize battery life so it increases the GPU clock speed at the cost of higher wattage. But if you're referring to actual hardware in the dock that would do supplemental graphics processing, I don't see that being feasible. Game engines and graphics APIs really don't like processors or RAM being connected or disconnected during gameplay. It would require a game reset at least and would ruin the seamless dock/undock feature the Switch has.

[@jemandetwas1]

The problem with that approach would be the huge power difference between the handheld and docked mode. Optimising the game for both modes would be very difficult for developers

[@dragonicbladex7574]

​@@Divector8keep in mind how much it would make the dock cost too

[@Feraligamr]

I'm so glad to hear you're on an upwards trend Arlo, and excited to see you back! When we heard the 2024 rumor, my husband said "Wow, Arlo was right."

[@codylester9081]

I’m looking forward to switch 2, but backwards compatibility is frankly the feature that’ll determine if it is a day one purchase or not. I have a ton of switch games in my backlog that I’m not willing to leave behind yet

[@Oslith]

I’ve been calling 2024 for a little while and it’s looking likely. I hope it’s not a Wii U situation. If the new system sells even half as much as the Switch then Nintendo will still be doing super well. I hope it’s just a massive Switch upgrade.

[@FileStorage-dt5gq]

Have you watched the video "Pikmin Hybrids"? Pikmin fans are talking about that video. (Don't forget about the special offer the creator left in the description.)

[@backgroundtom4589]

Hey, I started watching you during the wii u years - before we knew about the switch, and it feels like home to be watching you at the tail end of a different system. Glad you are feeling better

[@self-absorbed5269]

You're forgetting one thing , most people are strapped for cash. They would need an extra year , just so people would have enough money to spend. It also gives them extra time to polish those system bundle games. And , while I'm not holding my breath , they could also work on their online service a bit.

[@jonasking9587]

I'm excited for it. Can't wait. The Switch has become my favorite console of all time. Just do that but more powerful and with backwards compatibility. It will be a blast to welcome a new console w the kids.

[@marshall3973]

This would also line up with when content updates for splatoon 3 stop releasing in fall of 2024, so I totally agree with this.

[@Charnutboy]

My prediction is that Nintendo is going to do something

[@AxelWedstar411]

And ppl will complain about it.

[@davidchidester5463]

Mine is they won't.

[@thatguysinthecornertooelec3700]

Absolutely preposterous!

[@Did_U_Know..]

My prediction is that ur right

[@kianpfannenstiel]

Arlo, I'm thrilled to hear you do so seemingly well. I get it's not 100%, but it seems you're doing much better than it seemed just a little while ago. Speedy recovery to you, mate.

[@avinashtyagi2]

I think it probably depends on whether a recession seems likely at the end of 2024 or not. If the world, and particularly the US and Japan, are in the grips of a recession, I could see them hold off until early 2025

[@DaNintendude]

One big point, which Arlo actually mentioned near the end of the video-- It's not about what big games _are_ coming out. It's about what big games _aren't_ coming out. 3D Mario is a HUGE one. 3D Mario games typically release about 4 or 5 years apart. And it's been 6, without _any_ sign of a new game. And yeah, sometimes games take a long time to develop... But keep in mind that the 3D Mario team (EPD 8) usually has smaller projects in-between their bigger releases. The gap between 3D World and Odyssey was only 4 years. Yet Captain Toad: Treasure Tracker was released in-between. What has EPD 8 done since Odyssey? They made some Captain Toad DLC, helped with 3D All-Stars (although I doubt they really did much there), and developed Bowser's Fury (with help from NST). So nothing super substantial, and it's been 6 years? A game is imminent. The question is, why are they waiting this long to show it? It's gotta be because they're saving it for the next system. I was always team Q1 2025, but I think Q4 2024 is just as likely. I'd rather have it in 2025, but that's like a difference of 4 or 5 months, at most.

[@jonathanwilson7949]

It would’ve been really nice to have the Switch 2 come out this year not much else is happening in the industry atm… but I guess the delay explains why that is 😅

[@Ray-dl5mp]

Yes 2nd half of 2024 or early 2025 had made a lot of sense for a year now. Ever since we found out about the Mario Kart dlc. And tears of the kingdom release date. But yea wouldn’t be surprised if it’s March-April 2025 either.

[@joshalan5125]

If the Super Switch comes out the 2nd half of next year, Im predicting that Metroid Prime 4 will be a launch title. I have a feeling that Nintendo will focus on releasing remasters like Metroid Prime 2 and 3 along with combo packs like Zelda Windwaker/Twilight Princess to carry the Switch until the new one releases. Also, i have a crazy theory that the next Nintendo may be solar powered.

[@scaryhobbit211]

Do _not_ expect a Metroid Prime 2/3 remaster to be anywhere as intensive a conversion as MP1. MP1 Remastered basically required Retro Studios' full attention plus several volunteer developers to create, all while trying to develop MP4 simultaneously. They simply do not have the time or budget to make a full-fledged remake of 2 AND 3 to go between 1 and a potential 4 release as a Super Switch launch title. At most, expect a quick HD port of both games - just so that people can check out the rest of the original games before 4 drops.

[@RR-tm9ku]

My worry isn't that holiday 2024 is too soon. I'm more worried about whether a switch 2 is going to be powerful enough. I might be in the minority on this, but I'm not sure a switch 2 being able to run 8th gen ports in late 24 is going to move the needle much. We're not seeing what the Series consoles and PS5 can do yet, because they don't want to alienate customers with older hardware too soon. Also, covid put a delay on a lot of things. By holiday 2024, I fully expect to finally start seeing developers taking full advantage those systems, and I'm not sure if a switch 2 is going to be robust enough to garner 3rd party support for future releases in 2025 and beyond.

[@KalaniMakutu]

It's important to remember: The Nvidia Tegra X1 was 2 years old when the Nintendo Switch came out. It was a chip designed for Cell Phones that is now almost 9 years old. There have been a lot of new chips since then, however the Nvidia Orin NX likely makes the most sense to move to because it is binary compatible (so basically no effort porting), is 4x more powerful CPU, 10x faster GPU, is 6x more power efficient, and has all the new fun features like neural processing, ray tracing, temporal scaling and anti-aliasing, etc. As an added bonus, the X1 has never dropped below $28 / chip at volume because its 20nm process is basically dead and no one else uses at volume anymore, whereas the new Orin NX is an 8nm process that is still very common and offers $10 / chip at volume. And, as a final reminder... The Nintendo Switch codename was the NX.

[@megamanzero29]

Good to see your recovering Arlo looking forward to streams returning!

[@SuperWiiBros08]

With all the rumors and time has passed, it feels very likely that an upgraded Switch is finally happening next year, I hope is just a Switch with better hardware and with some exclusives being third party ports and a feature to play regular switch games with better graphics/Performance

[@riftshredder5438]

After Ratchet and Clank Rift Apart got ported to PC, Digital Foundry, after lots of testing, basically confirmed that the game would just not play well on PS4

[@hubblebublumbubwub5215]

That game is underrated in how it looks. Dunkey showed bits of that game alongside bits of the PS4 one, trying to argue that it's not a big difference but I find it a massive difference.

[@tomross4599]

3:16 3DS had had a spring launch as well though. I don’t think there was anything awkward about the timing of the Switch launch, but rather an effective way to avoid the “there aren’t any games” complaint the Wii U had at launch. At least in my mind, by holding back some of the Christmas 2016 releases, they turned 2017 into the most phenomenal release year ever for a Nintendo system. On top of that, not abandoning the Wii U any earlier (which had been pronounced dead by the press within 12 or 18 months) showed how highly Nintendo valued their most loyal customers who’d already invested hundreds into the new system. They have my undying love for supporting the Wii U for as long as they did.

[@plantyt3246]

I really do think the next console is coming out most likely next year, but it HAS to be backwards compatible. Amazing games that people have been waiting forever for are just coming out this year. There’s so much good, and abandoning it only a year after doesn’t seem like something they’d do. Mario Kart DLC is ending this year, we got TOTK, Pikmin 4, I think Metroid Prime was this year, and more. Plus, I remember them saying they had at least 2 years of updates for Splatoon 3, which would go through 2024, along with the fact that the projected release date for wave 2 of the dlc is 2024. And speaking of DLC, we haven’t even gotten totk dlc announced yet, and I feel like that’s almost a given. If the next console isn’t physically backwards compatible, I’m going to be incredibly shocked

[@Anna-dd4rh]

So true! Completely forgot we don’t have TOTK DLC yet. I don’t think it will be two waves’ worth like it was for BOTW, but yeah, we should see *something* this year or early next

[@plantyt3246]

@@Anna-dd4rh agreed, I think it’ll only be one thing. Idk what it would be, but it doesn’t even have to be THAT big, just something. It’s too good of an opportunity for Nintendo to not do it

[@HeisenbergFam]

Props to Arlo for slowly recovering and he is making a video for us, glad you are safe & sound

[@sahaprocks7751]

God your literally everywhere

[@christiparker2644]

Oh my you are insane

[@marcuscostello5635]

Imagine calling it "recovery" after a gay sex orgy

[@stevenwhitear]

This is pre recorded.

[@diegov1743]

what happened?

[@blueshell4859]

Every time I see new content from you, my brain goes "ARLO! 😃"

[@MooMoo_Matt]

15:25 give this man some credit for never being wrong

[@alexanderbaldwin1298]

I'll be honest Arlo, I completely agree with your second point of the switch getting stale. I got mine a year into the console's life, used to play it all the time. Brought it to school every day the whole of smash's support period up until I graduated around the announcement of Pyra and Mythra. I continued playing games for the system like Fire Emblem and DQ11S, but my girlfriend pointed out the other day that she hasn't used her OLED in half a year and I realised I haven't used my switch in about a whole year. I mean, I tried TotK. But I just couldn't handle it's framerate, it hurt my eyes. I've got an xbox too, so I've had no shortage of games to play. And I just... haven't played any switch. It sits in its case, constantly. A new system would reinvigorate my interest in Nintendo for sure, but right now? I feel like there's just nothing else I want to do with the console. I'm content. I'd like the next one now.

[@StudioGallifrey]

I personally think the Switch form-factor is here to stay as long as Nintendo can improvements to the "base" portable experience. Give it a more powerful chip (While AMD would be nice, Nvidia's probably Nintendo's best option for affordability), a better resolution screen; maybe 800 or 900p, 1080 might be pushing it; more ram, and then maybe a dock that can offer boosted performance and 1440p or maybe 4k output. Pretty much what everyone has been calling for for a "Switch Pro". Nintendo's almost always going to try to throw in some secret sauce (read: fun/unfun gimmicks) to be more exciting though, so who knows?

[@protocetid]

Calling Nvidia affordable? Tell me you’re not a PC gamer without telling me you are not a PC gamer. It’s not a coincidence the rest of the consoles go with AMD, Nintendo is using Nvidia because the Switch is a retooled Nvidia Shield, a dud Nvidia must’ve been more than happy to find a use for. Don’t like how nobody is mentioning handheld PCs like the Steam Deck leaving the Switch in the dust in terms of performance, they’re pressuring Nintendo to catch up to them. Also don’t like how Arlo keeps calling the Switch a PS3/360 equivalent, the Switch is getting Arkham Knight. It will get some downgrades but it’s not going to look as bad as its prequels.

[@samplautz5586]

I think you forget that the switch and steam deck are two completely different markets. Sure, they are both handhelds, but they are so insanely different. No one has to decide between a steam deck or a switch, they play completely different games and are catered to completely different audiences

[@protocetid]

@@samplautz5586 Oh but I have seen people talk about making that very same choice on PC gaming hubs. Almost every one of us is living under austerity and it limits our spending on luxury goods, there have never been so many quality games to play despite the endless doom and nostalgiaposting people on the internet have loved to do for possibly all of eternity. You're not entirely mistaken, a Nintendo console's main selling points are that it plays their exclusives and it is a safe choice for pay to play games for kids. These keep their machines alive in spite shortcomings like aging hardware or online multiplayer that is still behind the times. When you have handheld PC owners talking about how it makes the Switch look like a dinosaur and their particular Switch is under 3 layers of dust, don't you think it will affect the reputation of the Switch? There isn't a PC handheld that targets children, yet. The continued growth of the segment will get us there unless that growth stops, and I pray that it does not. PC is my favorite platform and I'd like for competition to prevent Nintendo from getting away with unsavory acts such as making disposable controllers and their anti consumer way of handling accounts and retro games. I want Nintendo to feel a bit more threatened, ye olde Switch is overpriced because they know they can get away with it.

[@SelecaoOfMidas]

​@@protocetidOur plight is different from where companies deal with Nvidia. 😂😭😡 Remember that Nintendo and Nvidia have a contract for ARM-based SoCs that's still in place. The particular Tegra that could be used has been sighted, and has a few RAM configurations (8GB to 64GB packages). One studio that has dev kits has already voiced concerns about the RAM available for retail, so it's likely to be the 8GB variant we'd get for something around $300 total. However, I would like to see Nintendo actually take a bit of an initial loss and go with the 16GB variant, and put the price below $400 (no, $399.99 wouldn't count).

[@protocetid]

@@SelecaoOfMidas Getting the impression you know more about the business and tech side of the next Switch than I do, I’m a PC gamer that doesn’t understand specs very well. Are you stating Nintendo has a contract with Nvidia that guarantees them Tegra parts without the Nvidia premium? Find it a little hard to believe but I don’t know what sorts of agreements console companies can reach with chip suppliers. Have also heard from computer aficionados Nvidia is a pain to work with, something about them screwing Apple and Macs using Radeon until they came up with their own solution. I know the PS3 had GeForce graphics too and they stuck with Radeon afterwards. What Nintendo is cooking up will have inter generational performance again right? Would 10GB suffice? Sixteen would be too high as a handheld is not going to be standing shoulder to shoulder with the PS5 and XSX, the XSS has ten. We can expect DLSS correct? It should bring down the amount of RAM required.

[@zephshoir]

I think that "Super Switch" would be a great name and callback for it!

[@godofcheez6126]

This is the first new Arlo video I’ve seen since seeing his real face, voice, and name and it will never be the same…

[@tomcurl8034]

I miss the touch controls on the ds and 3ds and since I am a huge fossil fighters fan I’d love for the next Consol to have hardware that would facilitate gameplay found in that series. Preferably the second game because that one’s the best in my opinion the other two have there good bits but the second one is the best

[@hexamex]

@lawrencenewman9941 true but what game can you think that uses it? none of the games i have on mine use it

[@ressljs]

@lawrencenewman9941 The touch screen is pretty much ignored because if it's integral to gameplay, it means you MUST play in handheld mode. Out of about 50 games, I have three games that really use the touchscreen. They're all cheap e-shop games.

[@beanman3113]

Figure I’ll make a prediction of my own… I think the system will launch with Prime 4 as a cross-gen release on the both the switch and new system(with the newer one obviously performing and looking better) as well as Mario Kart 9 as a launch title. I’ve always figured Nintendo has been holding out on 9 because they saw how well 8 deluxe was selling on switch and figured it would be better to not hinder the sales of either game. Plus, that way the new system would launch with both an awesome single player game and a highly anticipated multiplayer game. Both bases would be covered.

[@codyjames4457]

Hope you've been getting some good Pikmin 4 time in during your recovery. I've been enjoying the heck out of it.

[@objectionable6693]

For me it's that they said that both splatoon 3 getting new catalogues was gonna stop in holiday 2024, which implies something new is gonna happen then

[@doctorlion]

This is a good argument for why Nintendo *should* have switch 2 for holiday 2024, but that’s not enough to convince me that they will. I can’t imagine Nintendo cares enough about bringing in third parties and porting over gen 8 and boosting performance more than letting the switch ride through 2024. You make a good point about 3D Mario, and that will most likely come out on the next system, but all they need to do for that is simply wait until the system launches. To be fair though, I’ve been thinking that switch 2 comes in 2025, and I could see that happen any time of the year so perhaps I’m really just hung up over a few months, maybe half a year.

[@westonmeyer3110]

2025 is too late. Even if Nintendo brought every 1st party IP back next year there just wouldn’t be enough Switch sales to justify waiting another year. 2025 would only be a few years away from the PS6 and new Xbox systems and that would mean the Switch 2 would be in the same situation the Switch currently is in but in an earlier part of its life. Nintendo needs to close the power gap as much as possible and start out extremely strong on 3rd parties so they can build a huge install base.

[@smoogey]

I really hope it's another console-handheld hybrid, I loved the fact I could bring my console games anywhere.

[@Twilord_]

As a time traveller from 2027 - Arlo is right about one thing; he is still confident that the next Switch is coming next year. Which is especially confusing since it actually did release in 2026.

[@evinblacksmith1294]

I agree with this. Just to add something, some people may not think this is big deal and may have forgotten it, but it is: Don't forget that Splatoon 3's online support/updates end around Holiday 2024 as well 👀. Which has always been one of my indicators of this all being probably so

[@KevinAccetta]

I'm convinced they'll be announcing the next console alongside Prome 4. It just makes no sense how quiet they've been otherwise

[@rouninlet2690]

Sorry you're going through all of that Arlo, hope you feel better soon.

[@madnessarcade7447]

Switch 2 2027 here’s why When Switch first came out I remember reading something where Nintendo said they wanted the switch to last at least ten years In 2022 furikawa said Switch is just in the middle of its lifecycle and the momentum going into this year is good. The Switch is ready to break a pattern of our past consoles that saw momentum weakening in their sixth year on the market and grow further. If this is just the middle then don’t expect any new systems until 2027 or 2028 Again If Furukawa’s comments are taken at face value that would mean the Switch will still be on sale in 2027. They won’t need a switch 2 until 2027 the switch’s ten year anniversary will be a perfect time to announce a successor system Why is everyone in such a rush to abandon the switch DIDNT y’all criticize Nintendo for abandoning the 3ds and Wii U by shutting the eshop down If y’all don’t want them to keep doing that then stop pressuring them to move on Break this toxic cycle and just Be content with what you have Don’t ask for more food when you still have food on your plate

[@BitchChill]

I have 60+ games on my switch. I'm not in a rush for a new system

[@rutgerniemeijer]

I agree, I think they'll have a Switch Lite OLED later this year to coincide with Super Mario Bros. Wonder and maybe a "New Switch", or whatever they'll call it, holiday 2024. That way they'll have a couple of system additions to push its life to 2027.

[@bennettnez4711]

The biggest improvement on the ps5is a crazy good controller that isn't even supported by major games like Elden Ring

[@LIVEvil789]

Holiday 2024 seems a little too long of a wait. I know 3rd party devs are just getting kits recently, but Nintendo has likely had their own studios and maybe a few other long-time partners developing with it for a while now. After all, they probably want to launch the system with their own proprietary software first and fill it out with 3rd party later. Of course, it's hard to read Nintendo and they play things close to the chest to avoid leaks, so who knows? They seem to do their best to make the windows between announcement and launch fairly small, however. I wonder if Furukawa is a fan of Sun Tzu's "The Art of War", because I find this quote rather apt for how they operate: “Let your plans be dark and impenetrable as night, and when you move, fall like a thunderbolt."

[@ErikLeeTroche]

With a new console potentially coming out next year, it’s funny to see how everyone assumes that it will be basically an upgraded switch. And I get it, leaving the hybrid scene would be a terrible decision when it’s been such a popular console. Really what I would want is the upgraded model to have no joy con drift, joy cons with different shapes and sizes, locked 60FPS for both handheld and console, and more games from the Wii U to be ported to the new switch. Really just have the new console locked at 60 and I’d be a happy person

I believe it is coming in the first half of 2024, because otherwise Nintendo would have to release too many new games until the release of the Switch 2 in Fall or Winter 2024. Since Nintendo usually releases a game per month, thats like 10-15 games until then (from today). I think it makes more sense to release the Switch 2 in April or May with a 3D Mario game or a new Mario Kart exclusive for Switch 2. They could maybe also release some games that are playable on both systems (cross-gen), but a good first year with many awesome games, like we had in 2017, is important! Besides, releasing the Switch 2 early in the year is also good to fix issues and produce enough Switches for the holiday. Metroid 4 is the holiday title for Switch 2. There I said it.

[@QnjtGWonQNqVsbYyzjx4]

It is already, very questioning why they release do 2D Mario for switch, it could’ve been at least cross-gen instead of promoting it for switch. As it doesn’t make sense for a traditional linear 2D Mario for October despite new console, I would say it’s a game for a more hardcore audience and on,y way it make senses is to have another 2D Mario for the more general audience, essentially NSMB Switch, perhaps being more like 3D world in 2D rather than wonder then they can have wonder for this gen.

[@RacingSnails64]

I'm in camp "isn't it too soon?", but I didn't realize the sales were in decline. That makes more sense now. This new system BETTER HAVE backwards compatibility. Make it the 3DS of the Switch. Better but still plays the old stuff.

[@dugoose6934]

Arlo unrelated to this video but you made me get into pikmin and I LOVE IT. thank you for introducing me to this goofy series and for being my favourite creator on youtube 😊

[@CSDragon]

My only argument against the 7 year thing is that, the world took 3 years off between 2019 and 2022. Like, to me pokemon sword and shield and scarlet and violet feel like they came out at the exact same time because it was all pandemic era. I constantly mix up what was in each game

[@Theinsom]

Let me have what you’re smoking

[@GustavoCaucayo]

I'm so glad you're feeling betterrr! Best of luck with however much recovery you have left 🤞🏽🤞🏽 And september direct has got my head spinniiiiing 😩🙌🏽

[@georgehanselman1365]

the title gives flashbacks to “why totk will come out in 2020”

[@Xenado22]

I don't think anyone thought that lol

[@Blaarg9000]

The concept of a new system and Odyssey 2 excites me so much. I can't wait to see what Nintendo cooking up, I DEFINITELY agree it's about time for new system.....

[@jordangonzalez4658]

I really hope we get a trailer soon and switch 2 releases next year. Backwards compatible, 60 fps games that’s all I want

[@Limomon]

Reminder that Splatoon 3 free-updates are planned until September 2024. And in case anyone thinks this doesn't mean anything, remember that the team is internal and Splatoon 2 started development long before the Switch was out since it was requested for the Switch as an early game. It would be weird to support a game when there's a new, big console out without said game on it. Edit: Holiday 2024 makes the most sense to me, all things considered, early 2024 would feel weird. Edit 2: Maybe they will pull a Breath of the Wild with Metroid Prime 4 and release it on Switch and as a launch title on the next one? Would be interesting, to say the least.

[@MysteriousStranger50]

This. Splatoon has a whole year to capitalise on its updates. Pushing out a new system when the switch is STILL selling well and while splatoon is still active is backwards. Late 2024 or early 2025, sure. But between sales and splatoon there’s no way we’re getting this system soon

Do you think Splatoon 3 will not be playable on the new Switch? No backwards compatibility? That would be insane, because Splatoon 3 will not be dead the moment the new Switch releases and most Splatoon players (me included) would like to use the new system when its out. I played Splatoon 2 even after Splatoon 3 was released, so I don't think this "Updates until September 2024" thing is any indication in my opinion.

[@StarWolf5298]

10:40 Wii U launched when 360/PS3 were the current systems and there were cross platform games like CoDBO2 and Injustice.

[@Stupidlyepic]

nice to see you recovering! I thought that maybe they'd do what they did with the switch and have a big presentation before the end of this year and launch Q1/Q2 2024, but a lot of what u said makes sense. Keeping my fingers crossed it'll be backwards compatible, but otherwise I'm more excited for a new Nintendo system than I have been for any other in recent memory :) thanks for the vid!

[@Purpylon]

It's going to be harder for Nintendo this time. 1: The idea of a hybrid system is no longer new and exciting. 2: There's no Wii U library with easy ports.

[@truedude]

I just hope it’s not as hard to get the next nintendo console as it was to get the switch in its early days

[@willwunsche6940]

The nice part about them waiting all the way till Holiday 2024 is that the parts they have available to make the console will be better and cheaper. If I were Nintendo I'd want to use a newer Nvidia APU. The longer they wait the better. Hope the console is a little more premium like $500 for the normal version like PS5 and Meta Quest 3 while also subsidized. $400 for a budget one that has some features cut down. Hope it has a 1080p90hz screen and analog haptic triggers. Backwards compatibility patched for the big games is the most likely solution

[@thespeedyyoshi]

Hope you’re doing better Arlo ^^. Excited to see content from you again hehe

[@MicSolace]

Man if the next switch has Nvidias DLSS and Frame Generation, I think it will be fine for a longggggg time, especially with the Series S already keeping ports scalable

[@datwomoose_1246]

Great to hear Arlo is doing better

[@edwardbrennan3963]

My theory is Metroid Prime 4 is a launch title for the next gen. I think it was done, but due to the delays for Tears and the 2020 delays they decided to take it and change it for the new hardware so they will have a major new title at launch to push systems

[@aka_Ingmar]

Here's my reason as to why I both want and think it will be a spring release again and not holiday and why it's smart that they wouldn't do that. it's very simple, tax season as well as making sure there are not shortages when it comes to the holidays so we can get into more people's hands there is nothing worse than not having enough for an audience that is clamoring for your thing and you don't have enough to sell that is your thing making sure that there is a plethora of available units during the height of the excitement which is around the holidays generally is where you really want to aim to have the most stock and if you launch a thing during that especially when there's not enough games or an attach rate for it it's a mistake

[@gannonkendrick9343]

Tired of the endless speculation about when the next console is coming out. Every year, it's "the Switch sure is long for this world" and "we're getting another new console soon because..." Can't we just enjoy what we have?

[@MrGonz801]

I think the rumours are a red herring. I think Nintendo and Furukawa specifically really intend to make the Switch a 10 year system, so next year we'll get another form of budget Switch, so either a Switch lite that docks or a Switch lite the size of a normal Switch that doesn't dock or something that every KZbinr will buy and say "if you've already got a Switch, you won't need this, but if you don't then this is a good jumping on point", just like they did with the new 2ds XL

[@rutgerniemeijer]

I still think the Switch Lite OLED will happen, as a final goodbye to the switch.

[@Neoxon619]

The Switch lasting 10 years doesn’t necessarily mean it has to be the primary Nintendo system for 10 years.

[@leeartlee915]

Arlo keep talking about these 3rd party developers who want to “do more” with the hardware… but who are these 3rd party developers besides indie developers (who, frankly, don’t really need a more powerful machine).

[@7milesdavis]

We better get a new 2d Zelda game soon. I want some dungeons.

[@daltonsturgeon4024]

Well, like all other Nintendo fans, I am most certainly here to welcome the next generation of consoles to the family, whatever it may be. But one concern I have is the HUGE list of games I still want for my Switch, which is quite big. If the new system has backwards compatibility with Switch cartridges and downloaded games, that’ll take some stress off, but if not then I have a lot of catching up to do. But ultimately, while I’m sad to see the Switch end when it does, I’m excited to see what’s next.

[@pseudopod]

Excited for the new system, less so for the inevitable shortages. Also good job on the perdition Arlo.

[@Cool-Vest]

The New Virtual Boy! Finally! It approaches!

[@will_mcdermott]

Yeah Arlo is definitely making a big fat review of Pikmin 4

[@Moon525]

I know for me it feels too soon because time is a crazy thing. I still can’t believe the switch is years old, but it is! I just haven’t had time to sit down and play games as I used too. I’ve had so much fun with my switch and I feel like I can get more out of it (especially since I’ve got a backlog of stuff 😅). I also hope the new console is backwards compatible, but if not I’ll need to see some games that really interest me before I get it.