Thin Keyboards Just Got Insanely Good.

[@SwitchandClickOfficial]

Update: The keyboard works on Linux, just not the software.

[@SoulRollerFIN]

Everything works on Linux, except for GTA5 Online. :D

[@Jackofafewtrades]

The dozens of Linux users that watch your channel appreciate the update.

[@boyscout399]

@@Jackofafewtrades I'm one of them and I appreciate the update. Now they just need to make their software work for us

[@Jackofafewtrades]

@@boyscout399 so am I! Haha. Yeah, if only the customisation software worked on Linux... I'm a huge QMK/VIA advocate because of its Linux compatibility.

[@boyscout399]

@@Jackofafewtrades and that's why I'll stick with the keychron

[@PalashBackup]

Betty, I am loving your mom energy. I have always enjoyed your content, but right now I am absolutely blow away by your way of presentation. Thanks for the video.

[@TousiffTH]

it's so good to see regular uploads again, makes me happy.

[@rolfathan]

The tape mod does wonders for this keyboard. I will say, I did a custom with GMMK barebones, tecsee yellow medium switches (not the LOWEST profile, but much lower than standard switches), o-rings, gateron low profile stabs, womier low profile keycaps, poron stickers under the switches, and a thicker shelf liner inside to make it a little less hollow sounding. That combo is quieter, and has a deeper thock, and to me is a much more pleasant sound. However, that's DIY. This keyboard, in the discounted kickstarter price, seems worth it. But once that thing hits $130, I would suggest the ones I went with. It's just such a pleasant sounding combo, particularly those yellow mediums.

[@TheEightDomain]

Tape mod can make any trash keyboard (like my ROG Azoth) sound better, though I had to remove the battery and just use it wired because battery + tape mod = fire risk.

[@BurittoSandwich]

@@TheEightDomain If you're using non-conductive tape then you should be fine. If you're doing the tape mod, then you most likely already have a foam layer between the taped up PCB and the back of the case that contains the battery. It's a safe and cheap mod to do for final tuning since the PCB and battery are physically separated.

[@jimmysonglaugh8110]

That lofree flow lite with the hades switches sounded CRAZY!!!!

[@evericed5516]

@@jimmysonglaugh8110 I’m looking for where I can buy them and can’t find them. :(

[@gilangsantoso2852]

I really hope that keyboard makers start to prioritize proper QMK/VIA compatibility over RGB backlight.

[@Darkstar77_1]

It would be great if you took some time to test these out on Linux before saying they don't work. 99.9% of boards are going to work in Linux, just not the software for configuring. If the board can function as a proper USB HID, Linux is going to work with it. The problems usually only happen when the keyboard isn't compliant with the USB HID standard, and require software on the system to function. Off the top of my head the Keychron K4 at release, and a few Logitech boards way back when they had the roamer switches. Even then, they mostly worked, and keychron solved that in a firmware update after the fact. You could drop a Linux live distro on a USB drive, and just boot it off of USB without installing it, to test these boards. The blanket statement of not supported, or won't work, or might work, just get rid of it, and check it. The worst thing that could happen is you like Linux and use it more.

[@Jackofafewtrades]

@@Darkstar77_1 I made the same live USB suggestion in comments on a previous video haha.

[@PulpoPalpable]

And here is another great keyboard without ISO distribution 😫

[@kkon5ti]

Ah well, sad but expected. Would you reckon that changing the key caps and the layout with the software would be worth it?

[@DominikMBlock]

@@kkon5ti to do that you need to find keycaps that fit and have the right print. In my case i would need a ISO German layout keycaps that aren't easy to get from my research. I ended up buying a keyboard from keychron, because they sell it with german ISO. Only problem is that the have kinde bad battery life. Other problem are the import costs you may get when ordering keycaps etc. from me the hustle and prive would be to big, although a big german youtuber was praising these keyboards recently.

[@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017]

Thank you for mentioning the USB adapter to bring the dongle closer to the keyboard. I'm using a wireless keyboard which doesn't connect reliably at really short distances. I never considered putting the dongle on a cable like that.

[@SoidHoid]

The logitech MX Mechanical is the first mechanical keyboard I tried, which is low profile. It'd be nice to see that included in the comparison video that you have coming up.

[@remixisthis]

The g915 is a really solid upgrade you can get for cheaper on eBay. I use it as my home keyboard. I also have the MX mechanical mini which is decent for travel and honestly covers most of the bases people want (I also own keychron and nuphy)

[@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017]

It's cool how the righthand row of keys to accommodate a full arrow cluster has almost become standard now. I personally use TouchCursor or Karabiner or QMK to implement SpaceFN to give me arrow keys on the home row, but I still appreciate the improvement in design on basic keyboards (and I do still use the arrow cluster occasionally).

[@InvidiousIgnoramus]

...A normal 75% layout that's been available for over a decade?

[@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017]

@@InvidiousIgnoramus No, not a 75%, a 65%, and they might have been available, but they are basically standard instead of the 60% layout which was the only compact form factor for years.

[@MCHadley]

What's the keyboard you show at 2:06 with the right angle USB that has wood on the sides? Thanks!

[@SaiyanJin85]

how is this not sponsored? this keyboard is not out yet..

[@jjhmlstx]

@@SaiyanJin85 they paid her extra for a backdoor sponsor

[@Maze86753]

@@jjhmlstx that is just straight up not legal. She has a bit in either another comment or description stating they sent her the keyboard early, but nothing more.

[@jjhmlstx]

@@Maze86753 yes we know its illegal which is why I am very very sure they just happened to send her a “free early access” product to glaze for absolutely free right?

[@bagwaniali9514]

no black color keyboard, would be perfect keyboard for me.

[@walt_the_dolt]

Low profile keyboards are more comfortable to use in my opinion. I bought one a year ago and have never looked back.

[@IsayanBros]

Amazing video. Very informative, fun to watch, and no nonsense. Thank you!

[@Deatomizer]

My Fav low profile is the Nuphy Air60. My every day keyboard is the Nuphy Halo75 with silent reds (buttery butter :) ) and now I am waiting for my Flow Lite which I ordered on Kickstarter. Can't wait. Should have it this month.

[@lordMaroza]

I have been using Logitech K780 for the past 5 years (still haven't changed the battery somehow), and it has *_no sound_* whatsoever. It's perfect. It's connected to my PC via 2.4, iPad via BT, and TV via BT.

[@qing9018]

I would really like to get the white, but the ABS plastic of the frame yellowing over time is discouraging me from it.

[@RR-ss1tj]

i usually tape mod my keyboards, but i think this is the 1st time that the no tape mod sounds better. probably because its a low profile and has to be treated differently. i will be buying the bigger one for travel and mobile work keyboard.

[@kidrissa]

If I recall, I think you have a background related to ergonomics/workplace therapy (that last one might not be a thing)? With that in mind (and correct me if I'm wrong), from an ergonomics/RSI perspective, do low-profile keyboards have any benefits over "standard" keyboards? I ask as a software developer who types a LOT.

[@quandary23]

maybe you mean occupational therapy instead of workplace therapy? i’d also be interested in this topic!

[@Kosaro1234]

Id recommend the ergo keyboard rabbithole for anyone interested in typing ergonomics / RSI prevention

[@t3e_e]

Check out the mx Logitech low profile boards. If you have pain at the top of the hand, which I do from angling upward, then this will help. I get zero pain now after long weeks.

[@1Caja]

Just skip the part where you spend hundreds of dollars/euros on ortho linear keyboard, plank style keyboards, standard keyboard but split and jump to the part where you buy a column staggered split keyboard with tenting to get your hands and wrists as neutral as possible. 😅 E.g. the Voyager, Totem or whatever looks the coolest. For KZbin stuff on keyboard ergonomics search for Ben Valleck.

[@Luna-sf7rn]

love ur vids! quick correction, the kickstarter ends in two days, in nov is when they plan to ship!

[@SwitchandClickOfficial]

I had filmed the video over a week ago. Unfortunately, it took us so long to edit and publish it.

[@mattheModest]

Just re-found this channel after many months. So happy to see the less hyper-energetic content. Feels like the early days!

[@michaelbakker5720]

I bought the Lofree Edge as an early backer, and my only complaint about it is the font. This $79 follow-up is a steal!

[@pupfriend]

@@michaelbakker5720 Same. It's definitely not for everyone, but if you want the thinnest mechanical, it's great. Agree about the font.

[@jierenzheng7670]

Man, I am so tempted to get one. I didn't like the restriction of what switches I was limited to at work and I didn't want to spend on other pricey keyboards for work, so I made one with full size switches and lowered the case (DIY) as much as I could.

[@akaoveve]

Thank you very much for the very detailed videos! In my country this gets to the same price as keychron k2 pro... Is loffee nice sounding than k2 pro?

[@alvin3545]

Can you also look at the low profile IQunix Magi65 in your comparison?

[@khoifoto]

wow This is good IF and ONLY IF you can get it. The shipping delay is real!

[@setsuna_sia]

I think we should get more low profile keyboards that use Kailh Choc V2s cuz they're just so much better than the Gateron LP switches overall.

[@SoulRollerFIN]

Those hades switches sound awesome!

[@honeysal]

Honestly my small desk space basically requires a small keyboard, and I’ve been searching desperately to find a solid replacement for my own. I use the Apple Magic Keyboard because it works pretty well, and, again is very low profile. Something like this could work, I’m excited to see some more reviews after it releases

[@TheMRock888]

awesome review!

[@dheanumpad]

Nice review. Subbed. Very detailed. Would love to hear your opinion on Redragon Azure Low Profile Keyboard for people who's on the budget.

[@somaticHuman]

Radragon has disgusting low profile red switches/ I have a k622 horus - the most disgusting thing I've ever had )) I'm thinking of ordering brown ones, but I haven't decided yet whether it's worth it ))

[@derekcutting]

I currently use an Apple keyboard. I love how thin it is. How does this one compare? Worth making the switch? Would be my first mechanical keyboard.d

[@Tutku35]

For me what was missing on flow was the volume knob. The lite version looks great.

[@janbaborak]

Cool review, thanks. What is your more favourite color of the Flow Lite?

[@SwitchandClickOfficial]

Marble

[@benbunch4159]

I have a K100 Air and Keychron low profile which works pretty well. I wish there were more options for super low profile like the K100 air.

[@thelegandof0122]

Switch and click is back and going strong

[@MostlyAFK]

When you're so early the guy who timestamps the sound test isn't here yet.. 😭 12:35

[@realAleteck]

@@MostlyAFK thank you 😭💀🙏🙏🙏

[@afhmh2780]

Please review the RK N80 as well ya. Thanks.

[@moxie75]

@@afhmh2780 I second this!

[@TXLogic]

I got a Flow84 for travel. Great typing experience - I switch to it now and again even when I’m not traveling, though I still usually prefer high-profile boards. It’s not as quiet as I’d hoped for my partner’s sake. And a bit overpriced. I’d definitely get the Lite version with the silent switches if I were making the choice now.

[@Adore_04]

Can you do a review on Royal Kludge RK M87?

[@pettym3]

for me the issue was in games. bought an expensive brand keyboard that didn't register more than 2-3 buttons at once which was a nightmare but it had "1000 hz polling rate"

[@SideQuestStijn]

I love low profile keyboards because I have fat fingers! Less travel == less accidental keypresses on adjacent keys! 2-3mm travel is perfect! I also love the flat keycaps on low profile! With fat fingers in the WASD grip, your ring finger is on the left side of the A, and the index finger on the right side of the D. Those big tapers on full profile keyboards feel terrible! Please don’t only make light low profiles! I’d like a chunky full CNC aluminum low profile keyboard! And give me alllll the switch and keycap options. I will pay 300$ for an all out low profile full CNC keyboard. Tenkeyless for me please :) Currently on a fully modded Keychron K1 Max. Love your vids!

[@Harvester88]

I have the Lofree Flow and am interested in the Lite as it has features that I wish the OG Flow had.

[@assleepyassayu4619]

I used to roast lofree for the price:quality ratio to what there is available, but this has blown my mind, the price, portability, aesthetics, sound and look is such a steal (and my soft spot for knobs, sad you can't push it to turn off volume tho). Keyboards have definitely gone a long way and are finally making it possible for an average consumer to want to spend a little bit more for a much better keyboard.

[@shanna333]

I love that they have a pink one now!!!

[@jessicahiga9870]

🤔 I was hesitant about LowFree since i had a bad experience with their vintage model (😭 broke after 3 months), I have seen a lot of good buzz about them now, might give them another shot

[@johanb.7869]

I miss the curve of the key caps of the "normal" ones. I don't like braided cords. The software I don't care about. I never use it. As long as I know how the backlit works, I'm happy.

[@oraz.]

I like the scroll wheel idea because I just use the mouse for the scroll wheel a lot of the time. They should make one where it's near the arrow keys.

[@MarbsMusic]

Oddly enough the Logitech G515 with the Kailh pre lubed switches sound pretty nice and feels really good as well. No hot swap though. I also just tried the Gateron LP Jades in a Air V2 and it really helped the sound on that one quite a bit. Definitely need to check out the Lofree!

[@tacorevenge87]

I come from using nuphy air75 v2. Now I am using lofree after having issues with nuphy and I Love lofree. Much better choice

[@uddin630]

How do you compare this to the MG65pro? In terms of sound. Would you say it is more creamy?

[@Lisa-hk8ht]

i wish they had enough love for tactile to offer it. i almost pulled the trigger until i went back to rewatch and head that you said they're all linear. oh well! thanks for informing me/us (:

[@murraystechtime8530]

I like the quiet keys, I put the Akko V3 Penguin tactile silent switches on my RK TKL and it is so quiet. I like the low profile keyboards for using on my TV's multi media computer, I use a logitech K360 right now but looking fo ra quieter one this good fit to take its place. Thanks for the great info, I'd need to replace those switches too...

[@brett271]

What is the full size keyboard you show in your videos?

[@markridlen4380]

I'm very interested in how the Kailh Whale low profile switches sound and feel

[@kevkeisha]

Excellent review! Can you suggest good mechanical keyboards with a built-in fingerprint reader?

[@SwitchandClickOfficial]

I wish this existed haha. I don't know anything like this out right now. I also wish there were mechanical keyboards with a built-in track pad too.

[@ricardoruizmaldonado1920]

​@@SwitchandClickOfficial Check the Ergohaven K:03 PRO!

[@ChrisJames024]

They would include an L shaped cable to allow you to have the keyboard on the laptop deck while you charge it. I use a L shaped cable with the laptop that I have for use with my laptop.

[@JKP836]

Why weight matters with low profile keyboard? I prefer them to be on the heavier side, so it doesn't move around my desk that much.

[@10dotarb]

I wonder what's your take on IQUNIX MAGI65 when compared to Nuphy and LoFree.

[@SwitchandClickOfficial]

Talked about that in today's latest video

[@DHilly95]

👀 switch and click back? Ayooo

[@ACE112ACE112]

Good keyboard layout

[@kendallmarin1010]

i can believe you haven't got your hands on the gravastar keyboards

[@temanor]

This seems really nice, however I would prefer a metal case and no forehead.

[@ivanwong3079]

@@temanor lofree flow

[@temanor]

@@ivanwong3079 That has it's own flaws. Not to mention, Lofree doesn't offer a Nordic layout.

[@Bananabread-j5r]

I love your videos now i customize my keyboards I was think to buy the akko yellow cream v3 pro is it good? Because I was looking for creamy switches let me know if there is not expensive creamy switches

[@jasondinh5217]

Can you make a review on the crush 80 and compare it to the evo 80?

[@InvidiousIgnoramus]

That's cool. Now make it a 96-key version so I can replace my work keyboard.

[@matrix_FPS]

For typing and productivity, Lofree Flow is the end game. I prefer nuphy for gaming though.

[@ahrzb]

I’m so happy you’re back 🥲

[@Jordansspot]

Really hoping we can see the Sk75 in a review. Love your videos!

[@SwitchandClickOfficial]

Womier?

[@Jordansspot]

@@SwitchandClickOfficialyes!

[@Jordansspot]

Yes!

[@mdmilli1]

What switches did the k17 have here?

[@typingcat]

Why no black key caps? Light keys suck for backlight.

[@ziich1]

I hope they upgrade the flow with the upgrades of the lite

[@popoman20]

Why are you reviewing a keyboard that is still in kickstarter ie not available to public.

[@iham1313]

Had a Logitech lp kb 20 years ago, as I never liked normal kb height. Since I use macs I switched to their kb and I am happy with that. Except color. I wish there were more options.

[@peterxyz3541]

A suggestion (as a keyboard lover and new tech lover): When any company offer a NEW, always ask “WHAT PROBLEM IS THIS SOLVING IN MY LIFE?” Don’t get me wrong, “COOL FACTOR” is legitimate reason to buy something new. Just don’t confuse “it’s cool” with anything new or different.

[@SwitchandClickOfficial]

Surprisingly enough, this does solve a problem. A lot of other low profile keyboards don't have backlighting, other than Keychron but I don't like their low profiles personally, so the Flow Lite checks a bunch of boxes

[@zhuzhu_pet]

I don't like the whoosh sounds between the sound comparisons. It really takes you out of the moment if you're actually trying to pay attention to the sounds. They're also just plain loud.

[@chualinkiat5994]

please review datamancer keyboard .. i like the touch and sound .. unfortunately, i cannot afford it

[@dalejail]

can you do a video on the most silent 75 keyboards without needing to do mods pleeease

[@kakoth]

....Id love KB reviewers to focus more on: Performance: (Switch, Battery, Connectivity) Ergonomics Price Value etc Like if the only thing you dont like is the sound... I think there are way more people out there that just want an excellent performing keyboard in literally any other metric... showing a binned low profile KB because of the sound (its a joke I know) just feels like its been given up on for literally the lest practical reason on the importance scale. Yes its ok to love/find sound amazing but It's something that just... can't be the decider if a KB is actually good.

[@patpatboy2]

I can't stand the feeling of typing on a low profile keyboard. I need that key travel, and space between the keys to navigate while I'm typing! I guess that's a moot point though, as this keyboard's layout is missing far too many keys to be usable for my use case. My usual complaint of "I need BOTH the left AND right Windows keys, plus the Context key," plus this layout is just too cramped for me. Glad you covered it though, I'm sure there are quite a few buyers out there who will need something exactly like this!

[@nta25021]

Hi, What is the blue/black keyboard at the back?

[@MrDRAKS-xg9ld]

Would you make a video on magegee star75 keyboard its a super budget keyboard looks cool even has a knob but aint sure if its worth getting also wanna see it customised

[@GOPICRAZY]

i don't know who you are but I CHALLENGE YOU to do a haptic feedback for a keyboard while gaming and it should be innovative and next level gaming experience.

[@AlexanderDotH]

Please start using video sections from youtube. I just want to listen to the keyboard and don't want to search through the entire video

[@melancholyentertainment]

@@AlexanderDotH Real. The chapters feature us a lifesaver and I wish more creators would use it.

[@mifo1133]

can you enter bios wireless with 2.4ghz dongle?

[@TechnoLawyer]

It’s at like a million bucks on kickstarter. It’s certainly getting attention 😆

[@TheRealAstro_]

Hey I'm looking for a budget low profile keyboard with silent switches to use at work. Is this the only real option at this pricepoint or is there anything else I can get? I see I missed the kickstarter so I don't think I can even get this right now :(

[@idylledoll]

Lofree has sent everyone emails delaying the first shipment of orders which everyone is still waiting around for, it’s ridiculous.

[@classiccj2569]

When the kickstarter is over will it be available on Amazon?

[@SwitchandClickOfficial]

In the past, their previous Kickstarters eventually turn into in-stock products.

[@classiccj2569]

@@SwitchandClickOfficial cool, thanks!

[@lronSausage]

You're not sure why anyone would buy the flow? Maybe some ppl just prefer aluminum over plastic? Or the fact the lite does not offer any tactile switch options? Or just the nicer looking flow with uniform bezels all around? Or the lite does not offer any darker color options? SemiPro Tech actually has a much more fair and balanced review of the keyboard.

[@Mawxo]

The thunbnail is a crime

[@EvilGenius.]

I like the white one over all the rest!

I find it crazy that with such a huge battery the battery life is that bad. I've seen keyboards run for hundreds of hours on a 100mah battery

[@AristarcoPalacios]

No ISO, no use for me. Looks great, though. But I can't use ANSI.

[@Fome]

How do you have one to promote if it’s not sponsored and it’s still just a kickstarter? You need to disclose these things

[@SwitchandClickOfficial]

It's a prototype model

[@bizzy]

lofree product is really pretty and i have their bad keycap product issues., the font wipe off and the Support don't help. so pretty much if u buy it u will get dump. but anyway their product is not bad and the price is not that cheap.

[@-aexc-]

i have spent so many hours on campus for the last 3 years (5-12 hours a weekday, sometimes weekends) for 4 years and i cannot type on a normal keyboard anymore (laptop keyboard)

[@irlshrek]

I really appreciate the Linux attention!

[@YuuToobz]

It would be nice if the music stopped during the sound comparison.