Switching TO Tascam Model 24 FROM Soundcraft Signature 22MTK

[@Blackmon59]

What I like about the model 12 is;the midi in & out to sync any of xternal device,plus,Daw control….I do have the Signiture 12 with effects /2 stereo out and in.the effects are absolutely nice,as well as the EQ. Soundcraft Signiture models sounds pretty close to tube-like mixers….very warm,not harsh.

[@icollided]

This video makes me want to buy both of them. They are really affordable so, pretty much, why not? One of them could be a backup, in case of a problem. One could stay at home, and one taken out to locations.

[@JoshNecto21]

The Ghost preamps sound has a nice sheen and warmth ❤️

[@SoundcastStudios]

I agree!

[@akaixl83]

The soundcraft mtk series has a beautiful sound. I had a presonus ar12 I was using and needed more channels so Picked up a mtk22 and wow!! I’m running my sp1200 outs for drums and samples. And the soundcrafts sound sounds sooooo much better and warm. I use cakewalk and audacity and both systems pick up all 22 channels from the mtk. I recorded a beat on the ar12 and compared the same beat on the mtk 22 and it sounds beautiful

[@SoundcastStudios]

that is great to hear!

[@johnisrael5183]

Man...I ended up getting a SoundCraft LX7II I love it....just sounds wonderful....giving me such great masters....having to adjust sound from my Rack...its a worthy Trade off to have "Bigger, Punchier, and Rounder Sound"

[@jeffjuhre1494]

I think the sweepable mids were taken away from the TASCAM stereo channels because you can run into phase problems with different frequencies between the channels.

[@SoundcastStudios]

that's a possibility

[@thiagoribeiro9789]

Great review!! No doubts anymore, thanks a lot!

[@overduemedia7508]

I think it depends qhat u want from them..i like the way u r not discrediting any of them.. Well done!✌🏽

[@SoundcastStudios]

Thanks for this! Comments like this make me very happy

[@luisharo9204]

I think they both sound great! I'm sure they're both great mixers. Although I do prefer the Soundcraft. If I were to compare them to other preamps I would say the Soundcraft has more of a neve sound where it sounds thicker. The Tascam has that API mid-range punch. Both are great!

[@SoundcastStudios]

Both are good and really just depends on your use

[@luisharo9204]

Hey man just started watching your videos. Really digging some of your jams! Subscribed!

[@samuelraschbacher9530]

Was the Master EQ at the TASCAM engaged?

[@stanarthur]

I'm about to purchase a Tascam Model 24 for a project studio. I don't care about EQ as I will be connecting to a DAW. I like the look and feel of the Model 24 as opposed to the plastic feel of the others in it's class. I really like the large red REC arm buttons. The only drawback I see is only 1 AUX sub. I will need considerable extra hardware to achieve 4-5 different headphone mixes.

[@sundamusik]

Great vid, slowly getting into a analog/hybrid set up. Been looking at allot of mixers, the model 24 definitly caught my eye.

[@SoundcastStudios]

ive made a few videos with it. Search around and hopefully my experience with it can help you decide.

[@johnisrael5183]

I hope that Sound Guide Helped everyone...because....this a Tough Decision between the two of these...but what kind of music do you do? that is going to decide which one you should roll with a Open American Analog Sound or a Closed Punchy Rounded Britich Commercial Pop Sound.....

[@FireLiteCreations]

Hey Eric, thanks for the great head-to-head comparison video! So I've been looking for a usb mixer that I can use for live performances, livestreaming, and live recording that has the ability to send each channel as their own dedicated usb output device. Is there anything newer or more advanced on the market than the Soundcraft 12mtk/22mtk? I need about 12-16 channels. Thanks for your help!

[@SoundcastStudios]

tascam has a model 12 an d 16 which are 12 and 16 channels respectively . Presonus has the studiolive consoles which are amazing

[@ultrajayme]

The new Mackie Onyx mixers look amazing

[@RecordingStudio9]

Both are analog mixers with A/D & D/A at the front end, so software update can't re-route the PCB hardware. The only other unit, now discontinued, that is analog but able to switch pre/post Comp & EQ is the Behringer UFX1604/1204, as well as 8 inserts for the first 8 channels. My current mixing desk. Alas, only 2 stereo return from the PC, compared to 14 or 22 for Tascam models. So no hybrid mixing. Model 12 does support pre/post Comp+EQ, since Model 12 is digital and not analog mixer.

[@SoundcastStudios]

very insightful info, thank you

[@raphaeleckert7946]

The Tascam Model 12 is basically what everybody would want. It is not just a smaller version of the Tascam Model 24 but has a lot more features. With the Model 12 the faders can be used as DAW controllers, you have MIDI in and out and you can choose the position of the AD conversion! I am hoping that they will release a Model 24 + or smth like that with exactly those features (and 2 more Aux sends :))

[@tomyg2766]

Very reasonable comparison. Tascam V1.6 update supports Windows with OBS and 2-channel audio devices

[@SoundcastStudios]

It’s still not as convenient as the soundcraft. At least for obs stuff.

[@mske903]

you can't track with the activated EQ when the Model 24 is used as a interface or MT directly on the Board itself or even both?

[@BERNARJE]

To my ears the Tascam ris more reliable if your thing is clarity of sound and freedom. I record classical music and I am on a budget and I think for my purposes I would go with a mixer that doesn't limit the sound. I get it it makes it punchy and warmer, but because it actually colorates the sound because of the saturation. I know other analog mixers preamps can be driven quite hot for the effect it gets from saturation, but I think it has to do with the limiters and them being on the path. Anyways, thank you for your video. I am not sure if I would get to buy one but I am definitely considering the Tascam Model 24.

[@Funkbutterfly]

The pre/post fader thing is not firmware updatable that's a signal flow thing as far as I understand.

[@SoundcastStudios]

yeah, you're probably right

[@juneaftn]

Glad to find someone who's got the two mixers I'm currently considering. I'm concerned about the latency. What about their latencies at the same buffer size?

[@SoundcastStudios]

i never really calculated the latencies. Since they are analog mixers though, you can hear the incoming signal in real time. Not sure what latency you're talking about unless you plan to track with plugins enabled.

[@juneaftn]

@@SoundcastStudios When using a DAW and using them as audio interfaces, the DAW shows you how much latency they incur, in and out.

[@SoundcastStudios]

@@juneaftn I never checked sorry, can't answer your question

[@kippkippington]

Highly recommend the Tascam Model 24, however the latency when used as an interface is the only con I’ve experienced with it. Have never been able to get it just right, trying all different latency settings with Universal Control as well as within the DAW

[@cornsockgabz]

@@kippkippington I own the 12MTK and when routing a channel which is taking the input from channel 3 to output to channel 3, when switching between the 2 have noticed very negligible latency, to the point where I'm only saying negligible because I can't hear any difference.

[@johnisrael5183]

See its what you Prefer as weill The Sounds are Live Analog Jam Session Sound from the Tascam vs Commercial Live Concert sound Coming from the SoundCraft (Which in my Opinion, sounds more "Radio Ready, more like "Industry Standard Sounding" I guess...using the a Tascam M300 on Mixes and using the SoundCraft LX7 16 or 24 Channel or Signiture 22 on Mastering could work...as well..

[@mgmg116]

Software updates unfortunately won't enable the onboard EQ post-fader. This is more a hardware limitation, due to how the circuitry of the channel strips happens to be arranged. It would likely cost a lot of money to add an additional insert point in between the trim and fader on the signal path

[@BkuBrown]

Unless you get the smaller digital version

[@mgmg116]

@@BkuBrown There isn't a digital version, and a digital unit wouldn't have signal paths comprised of circuitry

[@DialetheismMusic]

Thank you for this. How does the quality of effects compare on the two? Also, what about signal/noise comparison? (Deciding between the smaller versions of these mixers (12MTK vs. Tascam Model 16; also considering new Mackie Onyx 16, which has similar feature set)

[@JoelBouchillon]

@ 1:00. Yes, the Tascam 24 Does have both Control Room out and Main Out. You said, "no, it does not".

[@SoundcastStudios]

I meant to say Soundcraft does not. That's why the camera went to the soundcraft.

[@Funkbutterfly]

Have you made much use of the usb return functionality on both?

[@SoundcastStudios]

Yes, it's how I made the mixing videos on my channel.

[@alexdawson7851]

@@SoundcastStudios Which do you prefer for mixing the usb return through? I'm looking at the Tascam 12 and the Soundcraft 12MTK for for doing this, not sure which one to choose.

[@SoundcastStudios]

@@alexdawson7851 for mixing with thesoundcraft for sure. More sweepable mids and even sweepable mids on stereo tracks.

[@alexdawson7851]

@@SoundcastStudios cheers dude would be great to see a demo video of the pros and cons of both (routing , effects, ect)

[@SoundcastStudios]

@@alexdawson7851 i ahve a follow up video to this. i'll ink it in the description

[@andyorr1597]

I have the Tascam Model 24 and enjoy it's super simplicity. I call it my bluegrass board. I hook up a few mics, push in the HD card and from there, anyone can run it. I have several other boards, Allen Heath, Behringer X, Wing, etc., I have to admit that the Tascam doesn't hold up sound wise on a head-to-head comparison. But it's not that bad.

[@SoundcastStudios]

Thank you for adding your review. Hopefully it helps someone in deciding.

[@WesleiTate]

Great video! Just bought a soundcraft. Quick question. The first feature of the tascam you mentioned that was a big reason for switching was the control room outputs. You said the soundcraft didn’t have them. What would stop you from simply splitting the headphone output jack into mono L+R and using those as your “control room outs”

[@SoundcastStudios]

Nothing, but that requires more cabling and you lose your ability to use headphones.

[@hoodknown5875]

I already have the soundcraft MTK 22. And just bought the Tascam 24. The soundcraft is very nice. Sounds great. But it has some glitchy electronics. Does the tascam sound as good. Better. Or not as good as the tascam

[@SoundcastStudios]

Glitchy electronics? I never had any issues. I personally preferred the color that the soundcraft had but' it's personal choice really.

[@jeanfatale]

I have both the 12 and the 22 MTK and have never experienced any glitches.

[@zaudade9139]

Hi guys, I have a question about the soundcraft, can you record post eq? I mean that any change you make with the eq and when you record will it be recorded? or is it just pre eq?

[@DarkWindowRecs]

Great video. I'm considering getting either one of these 2 mixers. When you did the sound comparison into the DAW, did you use any eq on the soundcraft? Or is the soundcraft naturally more saturated/ generous with the mid lows? I can see how that can add a nice flavour to the overall sound, but I use synthesizer and drum machines and I prefer a more true sound without added colouration, and I dont often use a desks EQ unless I really need it (this is because most of my synths and drum machines have EQ of some kind built in) and as the Tascam sounds a little less coloured than the soundcraft, would I be better going for the Tascam? Or is the saturation due to the XLR inputs? I use mostly trs/line inputs on mixers so maybe I wouldn't encounter the saturation using the line ins?

[@SoundcastStudios]

The soundcraft is a little more colored. I wouldn’t think it matters if it’s xlr or line since it runs through the same path. If you want clean the tascam is cleaner

[@DarkWindowRecs]

@@SoundcastStudios thanks for getting back to me and for the advice, much appreciated

[@soundgrounding]

Thanks for the video. On the soundcraft, can you send a channel from ableton to a channel on the mtk, then eq and send back to record from that specific channel? Or can you only print from the master 23/24?

[@SoundcastStudios]

You can only print from the master 23/24

[@Cheefie]

The EQ is different for the stereo channels as you can create phase issues sweeping mids on stereo sources . It's a deliberate design rather than a cost cut : -)

[@SoundcastStudios]

The soundcraft has sweepable mids on stereo channels and I was just acknowledging that

[@mgmg116]

This isn't an excuse, just using EQ at all (even on mono sources) causes phase changes in the signal, because EQs use phase in order to function - the entire foundational approach to EQ is built on constructive and destructive interference. Just taking a look on Plugin Doctor, you can see the phase change from just a tiny bit of EQ, even on mono sources Adding an additional link in the signal path on every channel strip would add up very quickly in cost, so it was definitely done to keep the price down. But Soundcraft and Tascam could easily have just had two mono channels or a single stereo channel with a link midway through the signal path to allow EQ moves to be recorded post-fader into the DAW. Technically, you can just solo the EQ'd channels one by one and record the mix bus output of the mixer within your DAW, but thats a pain in the ass

[@dbmorton1114]

The Soundcraft sounds better to my ears, but I'm drawn to the flexibility of the Tascam.

[@SoundcastStudios]

i do love the sound of the soundcraft

[@samdon79]

Sir which analog console will you suggest for our church.. Allen&heath or soundcraft or midas or tascam or mackie or yamaha or behringer

[@SoundcastStudios]

too many variables to narrow it down. Channel count, portability, required features etc. No way to properly answer that.

[@mikenoble5049]

Looking to purchase the soundcraft because of it’s sound during mixing on the board. I’m so tired of the mouse. Your thoughts? Thanks

[@SoundcastStudios]

its great if you can get your whole mix down to 22 tracks. Way more fun too

[@willjay6943]

i watch the video comparison videos so much .. thanks for owning both and really explaining it

[@SoundcastStudios]

i'm glad i could help

[@gastonbello4947]

so... can you use the Tascam to actually MIX what you're doing on your DAW? Like with the Soundcraft USB return feature?

[@SoundcastStudios]

Yes you can, I did it in this video. kzbin.info/www/bejne/a3rZaWeqptWcrdE

[@voivodOfficial]

Hi I like the Soundcraft MTK 22 because you can track several simultaneous tracks into a Pro Tools session. Can you do that with the Tascam 24 or do you have to record simultaneous tracks into a lame SD card and then transfer the files into a Pro Tools session?

[@SoundcastStudios]

You can do the same thing. No SD card needed.

[@voivodOfficial]

@@SoundcastStudios Thank you for the quick answer that I needed! I need to confirm this detail before I buy the Tascam Model 24. I smoked my Soundcraft MTK 22 by accidentally blocking the bottom vents.

[@zorroinhell5549]

The over all sound of the SoundCraft is fuller and more defined and warm. I would stick with the SoundCraft, you can always mute tracks in the DAW.

[@der-kluskens2234]

Thank you so much.

[@SoundcastStudios]

glad i could help

[@DialetheismMusic]

Has anyone compared these two to the new Mackie Onyx series? It looks quite nice. One thing it lacks is multitrack returns. It sends multitracks to the computer, but only returns 2 stereo pairs back from the computer. Curious how the three lines compare, in terms of build quality, reliability, sound, quality of preamps, converters, USB reliability, etc.

[@HossBonaventure-CEO]

I am also currently looking for a comparison between thus and the onyx. The soundcraft one has way more return channels as an interface which seems pretty significant but maybe the mackie has some benefits I'm not noticing

[@danibateria5556]

Hello, I am trying to use the Model 24 as a control surface in one 's studio, is it compatible

[@craighughes-shug6694]

Good video man i was leaning towards the tascsm but then was thinking about the soundcraft, then my macbook died completely on me so I’m now going with the tascam as i need the recorder on it until i can fund another macbook and get pro tools up and running again, good vid man

[@SoundcastStudios]

They also have smaller versions if you don’t need all those inputs 👍

[@craighughes-shug6694]

Soundcast Studios yeah man i know i kind of need the the 24 the 16 and 12 will just not quite cut it plus for a small amount extra I’d rather have what i don’t need right now but might need in the short future if you get me.

[@SoundcastStudios]

I totally understand. I’m not using the insert points but know I will in the future.

[@SoundcastStudios]

If you haven’t pulled the trigger on it yet, DM me on Instagram, I might be able to help you out.

[@J2500-q5u]

Have you experienced the power supply issue that everyone talks about with the soundcraft? How long have you had it?

[@SoundcastStudios]

I had it for 2 years and no longer have it. I needed a different interface for my particular situation. I’m going to be getting the 12mtk however

[@J2500-q5u]

Ok. Im looking at getting one but i have read about the power supply blowing capacitors because of a heat issue. There's alot of forums about it

[@SoundcastStudios]

@@J2500-q5u i didn't know about that. Might be worth getting the warranty when and if you do purchase it then.

[@DarnKatarn]

@@J2500-q5u This happened to my unit. Really wrecked my work flow, and the recommended repairs are not guaranteed to do anything but waste an evening with soldering. I REALLY want the Soundcraft 22 MTK, but since my SC 12 MTK was such a pain, I'm considering the Tascam next. The USB doesn't function at all on my MTK 12, but it's still invaluable to my studio, but I can't justify $1000+ on a unit that I know may tank

[@mikedubz5576]

I want to multi track from the laptop with ableton send tracks from laptop via usb without the use of a soundcard into the mixers individual channels would the tascam or soundcraft give me that possibilite, like i do with my mackie 1640i.

[@SoundcastStudios]

Both would allow you to do that. They have switches to choose the source. Instead of it being an analog source switch it to usb and you can mix with the board. Have fun!

[@cameirotorpedo5861]

Hi, I want a mixer to rehearse and play live but I would like to record the rehearses and live performances (All individual tracks [multitrack]). The problem is: Since we mostly play in small places were for example drums micing is not needed can I mic the drums and record it without having it playing on PA? Edit: I forgot to say that I need at least 20 channels

[@SoundcastStudios]

if you want an all in one unit the tascam will be your go to since it records to an SD card. The zoom livetrak is also something i would look into. Yes you can record without drums being in the PA. Most recording is done pre fader so the fader doesn't affect the recording, just turn the faders down.

[@PhatMc]

I got mt sounecraft connected to my pc via usb goung through my mpc software not shure how to record back in to the inputs on mpc do you know how to do so ?

[@supersonicsroots]

Does the Tascam also has USB return like the Soundcraft, or can you use it as a daw controller?

[@SoundcastStudios]

Yes, It has usb return to mix on it. Tascam model 12 can be used as a controller, no other to my knowledge.

[@stretchedbag1963]

Hi, Thanks for posting this, very informative. May I ask if you experienced crashing issues with the model 24?

[@SoundcastStudios]

I never did

[@BMakk205]

How is it compared to the latest tascam update?

[@colindias4820]

Do you still use the tascam .. would you have an opinion about the zoom l20 livetrack.

[@SoundcastStudios]

I no longer have the tascam. I do have the Livetrak l-12 and love it

[@PhatMc]

I'm tossing it up between the two of them and don't know a whole lot bout eather of them I'm planning to connect it to an mpc one what one would U recommend for that type of set up ?

[@SoundcastStudios]

If you plan to be mobile or need the channel inserts then the tascam Otherwise I recommend the soundcraft

[@PhatMc]

@@SoundcastStudios so it definatly willsymc with mpc via USB like the tascam do ?

[@CaptainCrook99]

btw W music. Is it released?

[@mikedubz5576]

Eric Please help me choose between these two mixers as far as sound quality, mixer quality and reliabily as i have done some research and both have issues long enough that i need to write a book. Now all i want my New mixer to do is be able to send tracks from laptop running ableton into seperate channels on the mixer so that i can then track and record. I need it to be easy as this Will be my first time attempting this. I am New to ableton but thinking of Just starting this using simple loops that i can then learn both the mixer and ableton. My issue is i like both of them but which is the Best bang for buck if you factors in reliability?

[@SoundcastStudios]

It’s really hard to decide since they both have pros and cons. If you don’t need any of benefits of the tascam, like the built in SD card I would personally go for the soundcraft.

[@mikedubz5576]

@@SoundcastStudios thing is i dunno much about Mixing board. I like the o

[@mikedubz5576]

I like the one button compressor style on all channels of the tascam i like the look more but the soundcraft has more aux input and more subgroup but has only limiter on 8 or 10 first channels which is what i do not know how to operate cause i only dj for the past 20 years and have never used such a platform. That is why i want a mixer in order to record mixdowns cause it is the only thing i know how to use a computer to do. Im am New to ableton and to Mixing boards. The soundcraft looks neat and clean cut but i read they have issues with the power supply causing it too fail. I found a used one for half the money that they sell for here in Montreal which is 1800$ for 700$ used i am strongly thinking of getting it.

[@ezcondition]

which one for straight mt recording?

[@zurabsirbiladzeOfficial]

How to save the effect soundcraft signature22

[@robertbarnett2132]

Could you explain how make it interact with the DAW?

[@SoundcastStudios]

there is a button you press on the board to switch to usb mode for the soundcraft and for the tascam their is a switch that you use to select usb mode. then the routing is done through the ins n outs of the daw.

[@mrmikepreacher]

Hi, i'm having trouble getting my Soundcraft Signature 12MTK to work well with OBS on my MAC, OBS is seeing the mixer but its not producing any sound, my mics are not working, music is not being played, but it shows the mixer quite alright on OBS but simply not producing sound, any helps please, thanks

[@SoundcastStudios]

i don't use mac so i have no idea, sorry bud

[@mrmikepreacher]

@@SoundcastStudios thanks

[@AussieCornerStudio]

It nearly sounded like your looking at the wrong desk as you mentioned live recording / mixing on a DAW / live podcasting hoping this could be achieved from the Soundcraft or Tascam. Maybe a Zoom Livetrak L12-L20 might cover all those requirements unless there is something about your selection of desks. I Have the Soundcraft yes the pre amps have a a sonic difference the Tascam was also on my list with built in recorder eq for FOH signals to aux for in ear or monitors then Korg released the MW Soundlink 2408 again they are not jack of all trades but do a great job for small budget studios.

[@SoundcastStudios]

I like the live track except that you can mix on the board through usb. It has to be through the SD card

[@electronik808]

Hi one question can you use in the signature mkt a plug-in as an insert using usb.

[@SoundcastStudios]

I never tried it that way so I wouldn't know but I would think so

[@Arperture]

I love my Model 24 so much that I bought the Model 12 for live use. In some ways, the 12 is more powerful than the 24, such as the MIDI in/out and the ability to loop .wav audio straight on the SD card.

[@SoundcastStudios]

the model 12 is actually really cool. I remember looking into it and enjoying it's versatility.

[@-xoilox-stefan2604]

What is the use, or can you do with midi in a mixer?

[@Arperture]

@@-xoilox-stefan2604 Clock it to the synths or drum machines you’re recording.

[@JesusSanchez-pz1ii]

Tascam & two pream umiversal audio 710 vocal & bass Focusrite isa two Guitar drum trumpet sax Conect fmr rnc really nice 1773 compressor Klark teknik 2a compressor 🔥🔥🔥🔥 fuego

[@batistlibert6031]

Exactly the video i needed, thanks! What do you think about the build quality? I didnt touch/see them yet, but i think the tascam offers more in terms of 'fancy features' (little screen, bluetooth receiver, nice looks,) while the souncraft seems more reliable in durability. I think i prefer the SC, but if the build quality of the tascam is as good as the SC i might go for the model 16. But right now i'm considering the Signature 22. (Also: Is there a way to mute all the channels at once with the soundcraft? That might be an easy way to solo tracks, by unmuting them again)

[@SoundcastStudios]

They are different enough that your needs come into place. Do you need the SD card recording? Cause that’s a huge reason to pick the tascam over the soundcraft. No easy way to mute all channels

[@batistlibert6031]

​@@SoundcastStudios No SD card recording needed! I just need a steady, reliable mixer that allows me to record multitrack into my DAW, send audio from DAW to mixing desk AND both at the same time. I want to use it for many different puposes, so i might have to move it from time to time. Thats why the model 16 might be more practical, but the signature 22 is better for what i do at home in my studio. So, conclusion: either of the mixers would work for me, the only reason im more leaning towards the signature is basically because i think the soundcraft would last longer. But its just a feeling, so it would be nice to have some info about the build quality, which one is the less fragile one?

[@SoundcastStudios]

They both felt solid to me and I had no issues with either. Granted I never traveled with either of the units.

[@batistlibert6031]

Allright, then i might go for the model 16. Price and space is still a thing to keep in mind too :) Thanks a lot man, you've been a big help! its easy to get lot in mixerland...

[@batistlibert6031]

Update: im ordering the korg Soundlink 1608. It has no multitrack recording via usb... (only stereo i/o). I decided to change my workflow drastically! And if i really need to send more audio from my DAW to the mixer, i can still use my audio interface. But i want to do as much as possible on the desk itself without using too much plugins. It has basic but good sound processing on board. I wanted to get away from the computer after all, so yeah.... Exciting :)

[@Mayimbe_]

I actually like the sound of the Tascam over the Sound craft.

[@SoundcastStudios]

@@Mayimbe_ it is cleaner

[@dog2head]

Does the tascam track 12 separate tracks at once to 12 separate tracks into the DAW?

[@SoundcastStudios]

yup, its a multitrack interface

[@djtrets]

Don't you miss the sound of the Soundcraft? xD

[@SoundcastStudios]

not the sound but everything else about it. I did a follow up to this video. It's on my channel.

[@inanesilence]

In terms of DAW connection/recording both have the same features?

[@SoundcastStudios]

yeah they more or less would work the same for that.

[@inanesilence]

@@SoundcastStudios Both are multitrack recording PRE-EQ? What is the best way to record with mixer EQ AND auxiliary effects to the daw?

[@SoundcastStudios]

Using model 12. Or a different device cause for that application this isn’t the right piece of gear.

[@inanesilence]

@@SoundcastStudios model 12 has different features to this model?

[@SoundcastStudios]

Yeah. It works a lot more like a daw controller and has post eq recording

[@thySerge]

Does the Play, Record and the faders on the Model 24 control your DAW? And are there banks on the faders to go beyond the 24 - Ie. 25-48, 49-72 etc?

[@SoundcastStudios]

The faders do not control the daw. Not sure what you mean by "banks" but i don't believe you can go beyond 24

[@thySerge]

@@SoundcastStudios gotch ya. Yeah i just looked it up and it cannot act as a DAW controller, total bummer

[@SoundcastStudios]

@@thySerge presonus studiolive can for studio one. I think it works with other daws as well but not as well, to my understanding

[@NoQualmsTheArtist]

@@thySerge not sure what you looked up but the Tascam is a DAW controller, and an interface, and a multitrack recorder, and an analog console. It works with the usual HUI & Mackie protocols. Kind of unbeatable in it's price range, plus it sounds creamier and less distorted than the Soundcraft.

[@SoundcastStudios]

Only the model 12 is a daw controller. Model 16 and 24 don’t control the daw

[@AbominusRules]

I have a Signature 12 and I can only get channel 1 and 2 in OBS. I can’t for the life of me get OBS to recognize the other inputs. How did you do this??

[@SoundcastStudios]

You probably have the non multirack version. You need the MTK version for additional inputs

[@AbominusRules]

@@SoundcastStudios sorry. I do have the MTK version. Just forgot to type it.

[@SoundcastStudios]

@@AbominusRules i didn't have to do anything on mine, OBS just recognized the other inputs

[@wormholewest]

if your on a mac try AUDIO MIDI settings

[@AbominusRules]

@@wormholewest been there, done that. still no luck.

[@mixxndj]

How does it sound using it as an analog summing mixer?

[@SoundcastStudios]

the soundcraft tames some top end

[@boimesa8190]

Has the OBS issue been solved with the Model 24?

[@SoundcastStudios]

you can either stream channel 1 and 2 or Master L and R. Not as many options as the soundcraft

[@boimesa8190]

@@SoundcastStudios damn that sucks... Does the Model 24 have an unbalanced mono output which could be used for reamping?

[@SoundcastStudios]

@@boimesa8190 nope

[@alexdawson7851]

Which one do you think has the best build quality?

[@SoundcastStudios]

I think they are even in that

[@sliduyzamnoyu]

So that presonus fader port? Why you need that?

[@SoundcastStudios]

it improves my workflow and makes automation easy

[@Diddddu]

The soundcraft sounds warmer to me.

[@boimesa8190]

What does the driver software look like on the model 24?

[@SoundcastStudios]

what do you mean exactly?

[@boimesa8190]

@@SoundcastStudios well when u open the interface settings (buffersize etc) what does it look like

[@SoundcastStudios]

@@boimesa8190 very plain and simple. Not sure how else to describe a visual thing with words.

[@mathemo2011]

you can use the two mixer in the same time for audio interface?

[@SoundcastStudios]

No. The Tascam can record on its own

[@Arperture]

You can on a Mac.

[@ronaldirawan3643]

I guess using Asio4All make it possible

[@SoundcastStudios]

No was to do it on PC. Not that I’m aware of

[@TheTomallon]

How is the analogue summing in tascam ?

[@SoundcastStudios]

Just kinda clean. Nothing too exciting.

[@DerperyPooslinger]

Just want to point out neither have polarity switches, which is a total bummer from both a tracking and mixing stand point

[@G_handle]

True, they should. But you can do that in the DAW on the way in for multi tracking, or on the way out for analog summing/mixing. The beauty of hybrid.

[@CommodoreCrush]

I just did the same and sold the MTK 12. The Tascam just sounds better in general.

[@SoundcastStudios]

I prefer the MTK personally They both are great though

[@mikebreitling6800]

Sounds like you like the Tascam, but you sold me on the Signature

[@SoundcastStudios]

made a follow up video, you should see that one

[@LessTalkMoreDelicious]

I was attracted to the Tascam because of its’ looks... but never knew it was so limited! (this is the first video I’ve watched of it) I love having many Aux channels, as I use a lot of old hardware fx racks on them... so I guess I’ll just stick with my old Mackie 24ch vlz for another decade, lol. (of course, the big con of the old Mackie is that it doesn’t have a built-in interface nor can daw multitrack with 1 usb cable)

[@SoundcastStudios]

you can always buy an interface and rig up a hybrid setup

[@LessTalkMoreDelicious]

@@SoundcastStudios yeah... been using a simple 2i2 from the Mackie stereo-outs for +10 years... but it’ll always just be 2-trk recording.

[@SoundcastStudios]

@@LessTalkMoreDelicious if you've been able to make it work more power to ya!

[@ErikWagler]

if you want to record track EQ to DAW, do you have to use a separate interface to capture the main out or something? I know you cant get an individual channel to go back to DAW w/ EQ, but can I get the main out (w/ track EQ) to go to DAW without using a separate interface?

[@SoundcastStudios]

You can record the Master L and R channels which will have the eq. You don't need a separate interface.

[@ErikWagler]

@@SoundcastStudios thanks. Really appreciate these videos because I am deciding between the tascam and the soundcraft. My goal is to use it w/ daw for mixing. You can monitor via the board while sending audio / recording to daw right?

[@shinesongerald8878]

@@ErikWagler trust me go for soundcraft !

[@SoundcastStudios]

If you want to mix with the board the soundcraft is better. More eq options.

[@AnalogFlava]

@@SoundcastStudios let me see if i get this straiight. You can adjust your eq going in from desk to daw, but you can only record the eq'ed signal if you record it from the master channels 23/24? If so, whats the point, that means if you want to track with eq for several tracks and do simultanious recordings to the daw, then you cant as all tracks would be printed as a stereo track through the master. In that case I don't see why I would need this hybrid model vs old analog desk going through my UAD arrow which also only has 1 stereo input??

[@daddydanny5588]

gr8 vid .. I wanna know more about live streaming in obs ... :))

[@SoundcastStudios]

it would be super short video. It's pretty straightforward with the Soundcraft

[@daddydanny5588]

@@SoundcastStudios make video for live streaming

[@JoelBouchillon]

yes, I'd like to know more about OBS. Especially, the difference between the MTK22 and the Model 24. Please do a detailed video. thanks,

[@acekaraoke7761]

i zawt khirh thei ltk,haha

[@acekaraoke7761]

@@daddydanny5588 ka hmang ve ve tawh a,tascam khawih nuam zawk ka ti

[@Reggi_Sample]

The pfl being a solo button would annoy me tbh

[@CMedia87]

what sounds better? Honestly

[@SoundcastStudios]

Depends what you like. Tascam is more clean and clear. Soundcraft is more dark and saturated. I like the soundcraft more.

[@CMedia87]

@@SoundcastStudios the sound craft seems much bigger.

[@DarnKatarn]

Beware the MTK. I love it, it's better than the Tascam, but it is not reliable. My USB connection is fried; the suggested repairs from both the internet and reps from Soundcraft are incredibly easy to do, however, they simply didn't work for my unit. I built my workflow around the MTK, and it was a major financial loss.

[@SoundcastStudios]

damn, that sucks. How long did you own it for?

[@DarnKatarn]

@@SoundcastStudios Less than a year... Don't get me wrong, it's still a very good analogue mixer; that being said, the hybrid capabilities are entirely gone, and they were the reason I bought the unit.

[@HarryLoveTV]

Hold up... You really can't record post fader?? That is a MAJOR make or break for me and pretty unbelievable

[@SoundcastStudios]

You can with the model 12 But not the bigger versions.

[@hailnaryproductionz3661]

I’ll stick with the TASCAM lol

[@SoundcastStudios]

its a great unit!

[@hailnaryproductionz3661]

@@SoundcastStudios yes yes 🙌🏾 I have the TASCAM model 16

[@johnnynick6179]

I used the Soundcraft Signature for several years. I love its features, but it turned out to be extremely unreliable. Several channel strips died and eventually the entire right side output went kaput. If it were more reliable I would sing its praises, but no matter how great it sounds and how many useful features it sports, if it stops working its useless. Buyer beware.

[@mske903]

i think you forgot to add, that the Tascam can directly Multitrack to SD card and thee Soundcraft can't. wasn't it even worth to you to mention this big difference?

[@SoundcastStudios]

@@mske903 for MY use it wasn’t

[@Thunder_Bear_mg]

To my ears with my eyes closed, the tascam sounds more open.

[@markeric1337]

the Tascam has a noise floor like an cassette recorder. 1 mic, your okay, plug in 6 mics, and it just a sandstorm. Good luck trying to record with it. The 8 hours I spent randomly pressing buttons, changing everything on the board, then inside in the box with a band sittimg around getting bored. Random tracks just don't record, the sound is cheap. The store took ot back after their return period when i showed them the issues. Just horrible. Get the soundcraft. I sold my gear to get this piece of trash. I had 12 channels recording at once with zero noise or problems with an adat connection from an ID 44 before the damn tascam.

[@johnisrael5183]

Man....the SoundCraft Quality is about 30% better..thats a big deal on "Final Mastering"

[@johnisrael5183]

The Tascam's Stereo Image is Looser and the SoundCraft's is Tighter So this comes down to Type of Music your Doing Folk, Raw Open Analog, R&B, Funk, Slow Rock, Folk Rock, Classic Rock, and Country are all going to sound better on the Tascam Tech, Pop, Popfunk, Popteach, Dubstep, HardRock, Metal, HipHop, Pop Rock and Electronic are going to sound better on SoundCraft