Symptoms of a Bad EVAP Vent Valve Solenoid and how Test if it Has Failed

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@gamingbullys1220
@gamingbullys1220 Жыл бұрын
Bro thank you so much I knew I purchased the right parts you gave me best information on KZbin everyone don't explain it the way you do much respect from Jamaica 🙌🏽🇯🇲
@johncundari1625
@johncundari1625 9 күн бұрын
Thank you!
@truvintage5800
@truvintage5800 11 ай бұрын
thanks for the video....I have an f150 that I can't put more then a gallon in without clicking off. Disconnect charcoal canister and it still happened. It definitely not opening to let pressure through. Needed a good symptom video to confirm my suspicion. Thanks.
@headplant6
@headplant6 Ай бұрын
Any possibility that some part of this vent system would make a loud whining noise? It only happens when the outside air is hot. Calgary summer days right now.
@melissalove7828
@melissalove7828 Жыл бұрын
Very informative 🙂 as I apparently need one of these replaced,and like to have a better understanding.
@kc0rock
@kc0rock Жыл бұрын
Really like your straight to the point video. Nice job! Questions: What conditions should be in place such that the PCM will open the EVAP purge solenoid valve while the EVAP canister vent solenoid is opened? i.e. I would think at idle the purge solenoid valve would be closed. Conversely at some higher RPM, with other certain conditions the purge solenoid valve would be opened and its open duration measured via the oxygen sensors (sort and long term fuel trims). I cannot find the DETAILED operation of the EVAP purge solenoid valve as controlled by the PCM (over all the engine speeds and loads)? I would expect the EVAP canister vent solenoid to be open at all times and only closed for a leak test by the PCM. I would also expect the EVAP canister vent solenoid to be open when the engine is off and car parked.
@HVAC_Mechanic
@HVAC_Mechanic Жыл бұрын
It varies depending on the year and manufacture. Here is an example for a Third-gen Chevrolet Camaro ..150 seconds have elapsed since the PCM entered closed loop. ..Coolant temperature is above 176 degrees F. (80 degrees C.). ..When the PCM is not enabling injector shut-off, such as on vehicles with traction control while one drive wheel is spinning. ..The idle contact switch in the IAC motor is open. ..Engine speed is above 1,100 rpm. ..The engine metal temperature sensor is not indicating excessive temperature. ..Low coolant level is not indicated.
@kc0rock
@kc0rock Жыл бұрын
@@HVAC_Mechanic Have 2004 Malibu Maxx 3.5L - summer conditions - Long Term Fuel Trims way negative (-25) on both banks - temp 180 - various RPM - coolant level to spec. When the PCM commands the EVAP purge solenoid to open, does the PCM also command the EVAP canister vent solenoid to close or open?
@rexfinx1234
@rexfinx1234 8 ай бұрын
My mechanic says I need this but I have a code for a very small leak and I have a bad o2 sensor, my question is, is my mechanic scamming me because I’ve seen most of these solenoids cause large leaks
@mr.everything7713
@mr.everything7713 2 ай бұрын
Going crazy. Have a evap issue with 02 Suzuki XL-7. Decided to replace the whole contraption to eliminate rusted evap lines and old hoses. The vent solenoid body definitely leaking. In my process I've found a small line coming from the fuel tank vent that goes to what looks like a check valve. Seems simple to just replace but not sure if it should really be a one way or a metered valve. Seems like open going toward tank and restricted going into larger line that goes toward charcoal cannister. Don't want to install a new one way check valve if it is supposed to allow air both ways. Also not sure if it is even needed if there is a evap solenoid doing this job already. Confusion as to if it is to hold back some pressure to stop the gas pump when filling. Not seeing this valve in any diagrams I find online... don't want to install something that may have been done previously in error...
@HVAC_Mechanic
@HVAC_Mechanic 2 ай бұрын
There are differences between EVAP systems depending on the year, vehicle, and manufacturer; the only way to know is to find an EVAP diagram for the vehicle.
@KC-xp9of
@KC-xp9of Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this information. Currently still have a P1457 code even after replacing the charcoal canister and solenoid valve. No one rents a smoke tester, and the repair shops qoutes for the smoke test are between $150-$300. There has to be a better dyi for this issue. Any suggestions?
@annacahill5394
@annacahill5394 6 ай бұрын
Hand held pump and a cigar
@comanchejr921
@comanchejr921 Ай бұрын
If I do a smoke test on evap system , do I need to manually close the evap Selenoid?
@davidross5506
@davidross5506 9 ай бұрын
I have a 2018 ram 1500. I’m told I have to replace the entire tank. No “check engine” light. No lights on the dash. Was told my service team they ran a diagnostic, which didn’t show anything.
@bigben0777
@bigben0777 7 ай бұрын
GREAT Fuc$&@% Video bro!!! Thank you so much!!🙏
@janiebookman73
@janiebookman73 9 ай бұрын
Please help me if you can. We have a 2014 mini Cooper countryman after 150,000 miles. It has been a pain in our butts. There is a clicking sound when the car is cranked when we first noticed it we were out of town, and they said that it was afuel tank vent valve. Nothing to worry about they said, but now it’s making this clicking noise. We’re scared to drive it very rough idol. Please help if you can. Thank you.
@luiscabrera5091
@luiscabrera5091 6 ай бұрын
Hi I have a 2003 Ford ranger 3.0 V6 my motor is running rough and when I stop and shoot down the motor I hear like a weasel on the back of the truck you think that's one way to know that the canister vent valve is bad?
@armandorelajos6239
@armandorelajos6239 4 ай бұрын
Got a PO0456 code. Evap vent valve seals ok with light pressure, but not with vacuum. Would that generate an code?
@whitewalker9622
@whitewalker9622 6 ай бұрын
What should be the values of an ohms and a volt test? Thx.
@user-yh2to1ol4w
@user-yh2to1ol4w Жыл бұрын
Have a p0456 code on my 2010 hyundai sonata .mechanic says need to replace charcoal canister. I already paid to replace vent control value 2 days before. How do i know that is what's wrong?
@joehyundaitech7961
@joehyundaitech7961 Жыл бұрын
I have a 2003 ford focus 2.3 my engine light cam on sunday afternoon as soon as i started my engine and i got a po446 cont circuit code could this be a bad vent solenoid ? I has a slit second where I smelled raw fuel one time and every other time i fuel up it clicks as soon as i put the nozel in
@cupricdragoon2388
@cupricdragoon2388 4 ай бұрын
Could you also get P0456 code if the vent valve is bad?
@comanchejr921
@comanchejr921 Ай бұрын
Can I leave the evap solenoid open? I have no way to close it.
@melissaebling3008
@melissaebling3008 6 күн бұрын
I got a great question, should gas be coming out of the valve?
@HVAC_Mechanic
@HVAC_Mechanic 5 күн бұрын
The only gas vapor comes out of the vent valve. It should not be liquid.
@melissaebling3008
@melissaebling3008 5 күн бұрын
​@HVAC_Mechanic tell me about it.. ugh, no idea what the hell is going on 🤦‍♀️
@bsbodily
@bsbodily 5 ай бұрын
How about diagnosis the opposite where the automatic shut off doesn't activate soon enough so that everytime you fill up a small amount of gas spills out before it shuts off.
@erayheflin6314
@erayheflin6314 23 сағат бұрын
I am having same problem on 2004 F150 4X4. Have you found fix?
@floppy956
@floppy956 11 ай бұрын
can the Vapor Canister Purge Solenoid also cause the same problems/symptoms?
@DreamZzZz999
@DreamZzZz999 5 ай бұрын
That is my question I have now. I just bought a vent valve for only 32 bucks, figured I'd start w the small thing first,.. guna install in the morning so hopefully this is it...
@sunshine3914
@sunshine3914 Жыл бұрын
My Honda (over half a million miles) makes some odd noises, right above the accelerator, once the ac is shut off. Is this normal?
@Lowdowm2k
@Lowdowm2k 3 ай бұрын
You rock 🪨
@michaelbrock6222
@michaelbrock6222 Жыл бұрын
will a bad purge solenoid cause the pump to kick off also
@dwalt6095
@dwalt6095 5 ай бұрын
P0442 could it be the canister? Small leak detected
@jameslanford661
@jameslanford661 9 ай бұрын
I have a 03’ Dakota V6 3.9L. Code: P0441 Replaced the Gas Cap & Purge Valve. Should I replace the vent valve and/or the evap canister.
@ozkansar5424
@ozkansar5424 5 күн бұрын
Completely same problem on vw polo 6r i did the same things as you. Did you replace vent valve or charcoal canister? have you got rid of the p0441 code?
@JCarlos.556
@JCarlos.556 Ай бұрын
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@ms.robinson8252
@ms.robinson8252 24 күн бұрын
So the vent is my problem because that’s all the symptoms I’m having
@garygogolinski5186
@garygogolinski5186 5 ай бұрын
if you do a smoke test and smoke comes out the valve, its not necessarily bad because it is normally open until it gets a signal, correct?
@HVAC_Mechanic
@HVAC_Mechanic 5 ай бұрын
Yes, this is true. I should have clarified this better. You can turn it off by adding power, usually with a scan tool, or be aware of its location and that smoke will come out of it.
@glove8888
@glove8888 3 ай бұрын
Does it effect your car from starting?
@JCGible
@JCGible 11 ай бұрын
Is a neg 1 psi normal for a fuel tank?
@itfpascual
@itfpascual 2 ай бұрын
Can this prevent my car from starting?
@HVAC_Mechanic
@HVAC_Mechanic 2 ай бұрын
The engine should still start. If the purge valve (separate from the vent valve) is stuck open, sometimes, it can affect the engine and may cause longer start times, but usually, the engine will start.
@87studga
@87studga Жыл бұрын
I have a Mitsubishi eclipse 2007 gs and check engine light is on but it will go on and of but my code is p0431 need help
@HVAC_Mechanic
@HVAC_Mechanic Жыл бұрын
A P0431 code is usually a bad 02 sensor or catalytic converter. I made a video on this code, here is a link. kzbin.info/www/bejne/bXXQkHpomd52fdk
@bighigh69
@bighigh69 Жыл бұрын
Another symptom you forgot was a ticking sound which sometimes sounds like a rod or valve knock
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