System76 Lemur Pro 2024: The Ultimate Linux Laptop?

System76 released the new Lemur Pro with a new 16:10 screen, upgraded processor, more memory etc. Steve gives the full video review using PopOS Linux, tries it in the sun, and even tests the webcam.
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[@linux666]

nice review but I wouldn't be able to use this keyboard.

[@kisharnramadas8727]

Cuz of the arrow key?

[@linux666]

@@kisharnramadas8727 yes but many things I don't like. The media functions are not mapped to usual keys. It's a personal preference, but it causes confusion when you use several computers like I do.

[@sashimifr]

wtf were they thinking with this keyboard...

[@kdietz65]

I don't think they actually make the chassis, so it's not something they have control over.

[@jeevejavari8461]

They couldn't have contacted the ODM to have that chaged??​ im not buying that they had no input. @kdietz65

[@shannonrae9955]

As a student and photographer, I was getting frustrated with my laptop having issues with Windows, and my friend installed Pop OS on it (I let him), and I absolutely love it! It just works, and is very buttery smooth. I am considering getting either the Lemur or Pangolin. Great review!

[@MrSujano]

Thanks for this review! I'm surprised at how well it performed unplugged

[@danielbullon7122]

Thanks for reviewing

[@everkang]

Thanks! This certainly looks like it's worth my money. Massive improvements over the lemp9 I had, for sure.

[@averagemamil4523]

Just found your channel so subbed now - good review, arrow keys don’t bother me but I can definitely see how that would get on a lot of people’s nerves… (I use Arch BTW 😉) 👍

[@LinuxBTW]

Thanks! I just posted a short with a ridiculous solution

[@stevewatson6839]

@@LinuxBTW LOL! That actually looks quite sweet.😉👍

[@classicrockonly]

I’m interested seeing the reprogrammable keyboard. And coreboot?? Looks great. I’d like to know if OpenBSD runs on it

[@Burbanana]

I would have liked more performance tests, especially sustained loads and if it throttles and loses a lot of performance, mainly because: this is a U-series processor! It only comes with 2 Performance cores, 8 Efficiency cores (perform much less) and 2 ultra efficient cores for any low resource background tasks. This basically has no hyperthreading either with 14 threads (HT on P-cores). This is very different from the Core Ultra 7 155-H for example, which comes with 6 P-cores, 8 E-cores, 2-UE cores and I believe 22 threads instead. I am personally interested in this CPU since I believe it will deliver excellent battery life, but I wish we could see more performance tests.

[@LinuxBTW]

This is a good idea, will see what tests I can find

[@Burbanana]

@@LinuxBTW not sure but I think Cinebench R23/24 should be on Linux? I personally also like to use R15 back to back since its a short run, after 5 to 10 runs you can see the loss in performance pretty quickly. I noticed a 15 to 20% loss on a new Zenbook this way. Thanks btw!

[@knofi7052]

Nice laptop but Is the bios fully featured as well? I hate it that most companies allow only very limited bios access.

[@kylenorris9585]

As far as the arrow position you can adjust reassign it in the software to function the same as you would be used to.

[@LinuxBTW]

Yeah the tricky part is having to adjust to the shift / up arrow. You can keep it as is (up arrow all the way on the right) or swap them but then you have to remember that shift is the right most, and to the left of that is the up arrow. I think most of the complaints are that it isn't clear this tradeoff needed to be made

[@kylenorris9585]

@@LinuxBTW pop the key caps off and switch them unless they are different sizes

[@SuprousOxide]

Might be able to use the arrow keys,, but I really do need a laptop with dedicated home/end/pgup/pgdown keys, as I also use my function keys and don't want to have to use the fn modififer key to get to them... Unless I'm using an external keyboard, but then the size and light weignt isn't as important Just want something slightly bigger without going up to something that can fit a full keyboard with numpad

[@diuran1919]

Does the 76 system have software in pop os to configure the CPU, such as clock speed etc, because Linux was always hopeless in this respect and you had to install various software and learn how to use it, today it is a bit better. What I care most about is the ability to control the fan speed I practically turn off my fan on windows on the laptop while webrowsing, watch video/youtube, listen music etc. fans only run when I gaming.

[@kdietz65]

The system76 logo peeled off on mine

[@RodrigoRibeiroplus]

I'd been looking for a review of the laptop since it came out. I'd love to see another one covering other things like battery life.

[@lx2masterisback]

Aren’t these still clevos rebranded? I have been wanting one of their laptops, i’d rather not pay the extra for a rebrand Chinese laptop, I liked their OS but I’m going to install a diff distro. The hardware is the main selling point for me with their order config

[@LinuxBTW]

They are rebranded but System76 does a lot of open source work (such as the upcoming Cosmic Rust based DE) and they also ship this with System76's open firmware and tools such as system76-power where it lets you set battery thresholds (which I think is the most important feature for a Linux laptop)

[@mashaleng]

Clevo is Taiwannese and the basis of many laptop brands. Alienware, Dell, Eurocom and many others. They make military grade as well. What's your problem?

[@Peterowsky]

Speedometer consistently uses less than 10% of desktop CPUs capacity for it's javascript tests so it's very weird seeing it used as a benchmark for anything but the barest minimum of a chromebook. Basically all decent keyboards are fully reprogrammable, especially on linux. Being impressed that HDMI works "out of the box" is also a very sad state of affairs, why wouldn't it?

[@hrodmn]

Can you charge the laptop with the thunderbolt port?

[@LinuxBTW]

Yup I just charged with the Thunderbolt 4 (The open firmware also supports battery thresholds so I can limit it to 90%)

[@Aerobrake]

if only they swapped the keys... F for keyboard :( all in all very cool laptop!

[@jonas000111]

Love my Pengalin

[@andrewkamoha4666]

Open source BIOS ???

[@rydmerlin]

Can remap the keys? Otherwise completely asinine doing arrow keys like that.

[@LinuxBTW]

Yeah they have good support for this via system76.com/accessories/launch/download - it works for the Lemur + Launch Keyboards and writes to firmware so it persists

[@AdamM]

I’d love for System 76 to make a Surface Pro / ROG Z13 flow competitor. I have the previous gen Lemur Pro and enjoy it but use it 90% in clam shell mode.

[@nikhilmaan9498]

damn better then 90% of the laptops

[@mashaleng]

than

[@Hiram8866]

2.2 lbs is equal to exactly 1KG.

[@mashaleng]

Still way too expensive to import. I can buy a Windows laptop for ⅓ of the price, get 3y wty and just either dual-boot or simply wipe the SSD and install Linux. System76 laptops lack 4K Screens and GPU capable of editing 4K+ video.

[@memory_leaps]

mannn could u test davinci resolve and windows 10 vm on it ? great videoooo and pretty monitor which one is that?

[@LinuxBTW]

Great idea - I am already finding a few different things that would make good content, might do a 30 day follow up and see if I can fit the VM in. The monitor is the MSI G272QPF which is a pretty affordable QHD IPS with 170hz refresh and a decent stand: amzn.to/3JdWaiX

[@memory_leaps]

@@LinuxBTW THANK UUUU U R THE GOAT

[@ChuckNorris-lf6vo]

Did they fix the SecureBoot they were running unsecure secureboot these PopOS dudes. ?

[@LinuxBTW]

They have not but we will have to see if the 2024 release for PopOS addresses it

[@parawizard]

Holy at that keyboard

[@LinuxBTW]

So far I find that when I switch between keyboards it is an issue, but if I just use the Lemur for a few hours then I remember it (but I also have quite a few different keyboards such as the Kinesis)

[@sirbobbyuk]

The question is how much?

[@LinuxBTW]

It can be had for $1399 but I went for the CPU (155U), Ram (56GB) and SSD (2TB) upgrades which brought it to $2086

[@daytonaukpc9387]

lol you have to be kidding 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@andrewkamoha4666]

*12 cores / 14 thread !?!?* This laptop is a beast !! More powerful than all computers I ever had combined for a fraction of power consumption ...

[@kmkzer0-999]

every time you use the pop store the fans will ramp up regardless just so you know

[@LinuxBTW]

I am excited to see how the new Cosmic rust based store performance is

[@autophysics5904]

one of the first linux laptop companies so def chil, they need to fix the arrow key thing though dumb and the ? being bigger than shift thing, dumb

[@JonDisnard]

The ultimate Linux laptop? Bs... Why do they lock down their bios/firmware, and what about supporting the install of any Linux distro besides their own PopOs. These are trash.

[@JonDisnard]

The ability to boot a USB.