T.Y. Hilton DOES NOT LIKE the College Transfer Portal | "In College It's a Numbers Game"

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[@reasonablegentleman]

These discussions are always tilted towards the guys that the system actually worked for(college stars, guys that went on to the NFL, successful coaches,etc) , but if you ask all of those guys" Did you play with anyone that was good enough to contribute in college or even make it to the NFL and just never got playing time in college?" they would all say yes. The portal was made for those guys.

[@treeztop]

Good point

[@RJT662]

TY saying he don’t like the transfer portal while rocking a Prime sweater is crazyyyyy 😂😂 he repping the Portal King

[@tdmidas289]

This is the dumbest comment ever prime is exploiting a new rule. You act like he created it😂

[@RJT662]

@@tdmidas289 and if you didn truly understand my comment it lets me know the level of education you have 😂

[@Tomorrowsgone]

But you act like every school dont use the portal

[@RJT662]

@@Tomorrowsgone thank you for proving to me that our educational systems have failed us. I never said that CU is the only school that uses it or that I have an issue with it. My comment was directed at TY who said he doesn’t like or support the transfer portal but yet he has a PRIME sweater who THE WORLD knows uses it more than others. Check the Transfer:High School recruit ratio which will further prove my point. Nobody’s attacking CU so calm down lol they may win 6-7 games and come back to this comment after the BIG 2 leave for the draft next year. See if he can develop tslent

[@michaelcooke8989]

​@@tdmidas289 dont worry a lot of haters always yapping . Prime name in their mouth Garbage talk

[@kingroyalty9621]

Don’t like the freedom of players but Coaches been doing this my entire life !

[@JACPOT3rddd]

These kids are running from adversity now though, if a 5 star kid comes in and the coaches aren’t kissing his ass or they yell at him wrong these kids throw a fit and run to the next team! That’s not what football is about! You have kids going to 4 schools in 4 years that’s ridiculous!

[@Saph_Adams]

⁠​⁠​⁠@@JACPOT3rdddfacts that’s what people are ignoring, Tyrann Mathieu said the same thing that ty hilton said. These players today are the reason nick saban retired

[@daa_97]

@@Saph_Adams Facts Joe burrow a quitter he should’ve waited his time at OSU he would’ve got to play his last year

[@KingShonBBN]

Coaching is a job. You would also leave your job for a better opportunity and more money

[@kdeb92968]

Dumbest take ever players and coaches are not the same don’t be dense

[@MozartRice]

What about that Alabama RB room... Lacy Henry Yelding Kamara... Lmao Kamara left and now is elite back

[@jayman6157]

He went to Tennessee and still shared a backfield with Hurd he could’ve shared with Henry and Kamara would eat and PS Henry and kamara wasn’t there with Lacey

[@Saph_Adams]

He got his point across by using the Alabama wr group as an example. Just because a player leaves a stacked position group doesn’t mean they’ll become elite or be trash. Sometimes it’s best to leave

[@RonC_TV]

But he also had to sit out a year if I’m correct

[@jayman6157]

@@Saph_Adams besides kamara… who else transferred from Alabama and was better? I honestly can’t name one

[@Saph_Adams]

@@jayman6157 jalen hurts since you asked but, that’s not even the point I was trying to make😂 you still don’t get it

[@samuelflowers671]

I disagree only for this reason coaches leave as soon as they get a better job ....so I gotta stay for a system I don't fit in ....nall bro ....now there should be some regulations..

[@willib323]

I feel like if your coach leave then you should be able to hit the portal. But it seems like a lot of these kids are just switching schools just because they can

[@blackstallion21487]

@@willib323facts

[@ghostrides5486]

Don’t act like you wouldn’t leave your job if you got a better offer to lmao

[@greatest599]

Leaving Jerry jeudy off that bama list of wr is wild

[@bigcockedman714]

who

[@DirtyDawg_3zzz]

Most of the time when them boys hop in the portal, especially 4 & 5🌟, majority knows where they're going. Their parents be talking to these coaches telling them that their boy wants to come play here or there. I've seen it happen

[@cooldudecs]

Majority is not being picked up... Vast Majority

[@quaroar2179]

The players who get stuck in the portal end up going to either a juco or a d2/d3

[@divinedockery5025]

Wait what!?! Seriously, that’s wild

[@Thaenigma08]

Joe burrow, Jalen Hurts, Kyler Murray, Jamison Williams, Caleb Williams, Jayden Daniels…. Lot of people benefitted tremendously by jumping in the portal… if they were to “stay” we can’t say they would have benefited by staying

[@justmando9488]

You named 6 dudes😂 Now talk about the 1000 plus dudes in the transfer portal and most of them stay there and never get picked up by another school.

[@quaroar2179]

The university of Florida player had 4 different season ending injuries plus covid

[@BiGGCaiN24]

Great discussion! As a parent of a kid that’s a rising sophomore at a powerhouse in Gwinnett County, I tell my kid all the time that you can never get comfortable and be scared of competition. And if he is blessed to get into college you have to have mental state when trying to touch the field. You can’t tap out and leave and expect things to work in your favor. Once you jump into the portal it a chance you may not get another opportunity. So take advantage of the ones you are afforded and create!

[@YourFavoriteCoolCousin]

god bless you and your son he’s so grateful to have you as a pops keep pushing and teaching your king 💯

[@DeVontaePitts]

There’s something people need to realize. Yes it benefits some, but it doesn’t benefit most.

[@factthatdude4059]

It’s a choice like the rest of their lives.

[@KngCarlito83]

5:29 Yessss yesssss was crazy 😂😂😂😂😂

[@tr4pkeedyoungking677]

When you go for stright 3-5 stars you miss out on the kids that didnt go to camps. Aaron rodgers, Antonio brown, cooper kupp all were not ranked in high-school none of them had a single star to their name. Same with aaron donald

[@Tothemoon96]

To be fair not being ranked coming outta high was that motivation for them

[@sidanx7887]

I like what y’all saying - new sub here

[@cedricmoore7339]

I’m with Speed. I can’t hate the portal when it helps those who need it. And coaches are going to the portal first before anything under a 5 or 4 star. Coaches jobs are on the line. So now 3-no stars are going to lesser schools now and FBS and FCS schools are using D2 and D3 as feeder schools

[@bashiriasad789]

Shout out to the Colts Legend,T.Y. Hilton!!! Z-4/Speed, salute to you fellas! Keep reppin' #TheShoe Bredren!

[@teejay36001]

I like the statement made about the portal being free agency in the high school kids being like the draft. I made this statement to a lot of people before. As a former FCS football player I wish I had a transfer portal back when I was playing because I would’ve tried to transfer to a bigger school to get a better opportunity at making it to the pros because the schools are not looked at as high as the FBS schools

[@kharidiggs]

they do not jump into the portal blind dawg 😂😂

[@jonathanbradley3633]

How about we stop asking the guys who made it & ask the guys who didn’t due to playing time or being recruited over.

[@jayleo92]

THE PORTAL IS THE NEW JUCO ! The transfer portal has ruined JUCO FOOTBALL !! Kids used to bounce back to juco and then find a better D1

[@PapaSphinx]

TY and every other current/former player or coach that does not like the Portal and NIL is just upset they can’t/won’t benefit from the portal and NIL 😂

[@43nduscott]

Yep fucking hate the portal. You should only be allowed to transfer twice in your college career period.

[@IKEBULLTV]

Once bid

[@focusedwillis1245]

Twice is good enough

[@pzoe82]

Subbed

[@LamarA-bq1zz]

Anything that is created will have good and bad points. Situations will arise that will require adjustments. The only downside is it's hurting the highschool player that's competing with men for scholarships. It's a business now and student athlete means nothing....

[@s4cakagospelgorillaz98]

We are in a new day all the way across the board. The power has shifted and it's more in the players hands. Which will be good for some and bad for others. Thats life. We can control equally but not equity. Equally is opportunity and equity is outcome. We can't punish those who will benefit and do it right because of some who won't.

[@benoitmapango8943]

Just as easy as you say how the players had success waiting they turn...you can also say what if these players that are heisman winners and top paid players at the positions in the league where would they be if they didn't go....Joe burrow, jalen hurts, Alvin Kamara, kyler murray, jamenson williams, Kenneth walker, jalen phillips

[@paullittle9187]

Is there somewhere where we can read the rules and regulations regarding the transfer portal?

[@btcpac-pr7bu]

zaire got that strong philly accent lmao

[@oj6996]

my homeboy got cut from his team, he was a freshman preferred walk on, they cut 13 guys from the roster and now he stuck in the portal. I be feeling bad cause now he gotta uproot himself from his college which is D1, and he don't even have an offer yet cause he had no film.

[@tycollins4439]

It’s ruining tradition

[@datdude1021]

F tradition!

[@paullittle9187]

I agree but what can be done about it?

[@bigcockedman714]

blame saban

[@gregguess5248]

Top recruiting teams are still the top teams in the NIL era . Big bank still takes little bank ,But the portal does allow the depth to transfer out .

[@brotherLee340]

I think Players should be allowed 1 free transfer.

[@brp1714]

I’ve been saying this since the portal started.

[@27bobbyrix]

That's the rule already. If you transfer the 2nd time you have to sit out a year. If you graduate you can transfer anytime.

[@brotherLee340]

@27bobbyrix they changed the rule last year. Now its unlimited transfers.

[@mrparishlife9378]

The hell I got pictures of Travis and 2 for

[@RodrigoAu2338]

They didn’t speak about underlying thing, players communicate reason why players transfer to certain schools because players are the ones talking to them, so the coach talks through them

[@hiiipowertv5728]

Easy fix- schools cannot talk to other teams players. School includes: Players on your roster being use to poach

[@samariohoward6298]

​@hiiipowertv5728 thats been the rule but no one enforces it

[@manniefresh769]

Man if coaches can leave whenever they want players should be able to do the same without being penalized

[@demond2134]

I didn’t like it at first either but then Mizzou won 11 games and now I believe it’s the greatest thing to ever happen to college sports lol

[@highwayjunkieb]

Its some ppl that jumped in the portal and their sitting at home as we speak. The portal is only really for the great players or players that can fill space like my 3rd best wr better than your 3rd corner. NIL as well everybody not getting paid you gotta be a player thats being seen and bringing traction.

[@s4cakagospelgorillaz98]

Having the portal just gives options to the players. They don't have to leave. They can stay, compete, level up or never play. Or they can't try to catch the eye of another program. Bonafide starters are not gonna just be jumping from school to school. It's guys that are low on the depth chart. He might be 3rd string at Bama. But can start at UNC.

[@jman1562001]

Players have to be more realistic now and know where they stand. If you aint getting playing time or at least an opportunity to earn time then you got to go to a school that will be willing to give you a shot to earn a spot to play.

[@cameronbridgewater4587]

Both sides have valid points! I think the thing that needs to be mentioned is that the transfer portal is the players decision. Nobody is forcing these kids to do that. Transfer portal indeed gave a much better opportunity and visibility for players and coaches.

[@cameronbridgewater4587]

Also I think NIL and transfer is good for all of college football. There’s more teams than bama, Clemson, Ohio state, Michigan etc. so being able to spread it out is good. Also to the point of bad deals ….thats business!! No one said NIL is just free money lol companies have goals too!

[@yayofuego]

Think about the opportunities some of these guys are having with the ability to transfer. I ran a 4.5 40 as a freshman. I was on the smaller side so my coaches never really cared how fast I was, then I went to another high school and balled out but only had the opportunity to play one full season. I understand what he’s saying but think about the opportunity and you’ll understand

[@jwil757]

I hate the portal too!!!! Kids don’t have to be accountable anymore, they can just leave, and NIL kills ambition.. your not gonna work as hard if your already a millionaire in college..You should be able to make good money but not millions yet!!

[@factthatdude4059]

Be accountable while the University AD and Coach have freedom of movement and capital gain. Ok 😂

[@tr4pkeedyoungking677]

Less high school kids get offered because of the portal

[@ScottyFranchyze]

Sometimes coaches are forcing the kids into the portal.

[@jakeMontejo3272]

How are you a former player and not a fan of the portal for what it can be: opportunity for better $, horrible coaching/program for better coaching/program, your HC/position coach/entire staff left, etc…everyone should be free to do what they feel is right for them, regardless of all the reasons you think could be bad. It’s a life lesson either way.

[@Pop-fo7nc]

Old haters man lol wish they could do it but can’t

[@DLK262]

It’s all about how much money can you give me. Might as well have no college football. Just go straight the NFL.

[@brotherLee340]

I think Kids should get 1 free transfer. After that it should go to old rules. And I also think schools should Guarantee scholarships for at least 2 years.

[@tr4pkeedyoungking677]

NFL states players are less developed coming out of college then ever before.

[@michaelbell8627]

If your initial choice worked for you. You took the bull the coach fed you until he eventually allowed you to play you don't like the portal. Now the players have the freedom to hold these coaches accountable, get paid, and have the chance to legally and immediately help their family. I'm all for younger millionaires, younger people being able to retire and younger people being able to make a financial mistake and bounce back. The portal is great for football, coaches have done this for years and left programs in shambles.

[@Fycstion]

Everyone cannot make it to the league so maximize your earning potential while you can.

[@ad7711x]

But most great players aren’t hitting the portal. It’s mostly backups or players coming from group of 5 schools.

[@Coachshake1k]

Portal is killing HS kids . Many group of 5 level talent guys are forced to go D2 because you can just grab a p5 bounce back.

[@DaNewWaveLee]

Lol the 9 year vet probably in Grad school

[@deereezter1809]

No more hard coaching because these new college athletes gone drive that hellcat straight into the portal

[@quincytidwell5019]

Funny how the top teams aren't the top teams anymore but it was the same top teams at the top since the portal started

[@craigrogers6889]

It’s not bout winning national championships no more it’s bout money now college football is water down

[@300grand8]

It’s better to have the option

[@robertcammon5969]

Coaches have misused their power for 60 years.

[@DJDrew-tc8sg]

At least the coaches are with a team usually 2-3 years before they move on. But definitely a 2 year minimum before transferring would fix alot of BS

[@NightCrawler810]

The portal is a blessing to players not getting playing time, where you don't have to sit a year out, these dudes weird 😂😂😂, everyone of status who entered the portal got picked up, 🤦🏿 they don't know what their talking about

[@jimmysweat2200]

The portal is the best thing to ever happen for players not coaches

[@kingmunchtv]

Coach’s do it all the time 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@YoungSensation32]

NIL best thing to happen to college sports, many players won't make it to their respective pro league and get paid.

[@Ganjamann7777]

How is it competing when players wanna play n not be in ah situation where they may not be seeing the field enough what about them players that wanna compete n can’t

[@keithbenjamin9156]

I’m for the portal college programs and coaches have been hosing these kids while making Millions on they’re backs while they’re starving not having any money all the while they gotta bust they’re ass while programs and coaches are comfortable and making a living Fuck that it’s the players time to have all the power and advantage to control they’re destiny and one shot to make it to the league…

[@501media]

Idk man NIL ball is lit.

[@drevsandre4555]

No no no high schoolers are not getting there chance and that’s what the portal is doing. My nephew is a 5 star player from a small school with no huge social media following. We are being told from schools they don’t even mess with HS because they grabbing them out the portal. That’s sad. I mean if you ain’t that dog dog, have millions of followers, at every 7v7 tournament. Go to a big school. Top schools ain’t getting you out of HS and the middle of the road player just shot out of luck.

[@EriqRealty]

I love the conversation but there were some very important points they failed to Mention pertaining the NIL and Transfer Portal NIL- Not every Player gets into the NFL ‘Tommy Armstrong, JT Barrett, and Vernon Adams’ for example but they were definitely Players used to sell tickets for those Colleges so let them make as much money as they can get before having to do something else instead of Struggling and bouncing around Canadian Football League Transfer Portal- I agree with Speed to a a point, my thing is it allows smaller schools to Have better Players in turn Big Schools vs Little schools will be a lot better to watch because of the better Competition and player recognization, yes those players enviably transfer to those big Schools but it’ll give more Tape for NFL teams to look at and gives the college kids better development at a early age even though they wouldn’t be in a legendary locker room

[@EriqRealty]

Kids do need to be more responsible in going into the Portal without a set plan but I don’t think colleges can recruit active players because of tampering

[@EriqRealty]

You won’t have Bama, LSU, and OSU WR like rooms for example but I Value on field experience more than sitting 2-4 years until a opportunity

[@EriqRealty]

Mitch Trubisky for example only started 12 college games but drafted before Mahomes because of his small sample size

[@jobisrael8313]

I believe Nil is the best thing for college sports. I just watch Cam Newton put up a chart at the top of the left it said 1 million high school students playing football. Now on the right side at the bottom after 4 years only a hundred and fifty make it out of each class. I have no problem with young kids making money at college. 05-02-24

[@marquesmurray]

You cant have discipline or culture with the portal. The game suffere. I know people dont care, but eventually it will sink the ship. Guys get paid now, 5 years from now, guys wont be getting paid what they are today. The views will not be there, and the colleges will start letting it die outside of the top 32 programs.

[@kvinche8120]

I thought he was Patrick Beverly

[@Sco_Rilla]

These old episodes ?

[@Puppycraz3d]

Yes

[@ski8409]

The portal is dirty both ways!!!

[@qhamarii0]

Why he act like because of the portal & you have competition you have to transfer it’s a decision a option y’all act like every situation is ideal sometimes the person in front doesn’t deserve the spot & the coach just hating or the seniority etc

[@robertcammon5969]

Why are the players expected to take the high road when the coaches, administrators, and TV people take the low road. If you have an advocate speaking for you you are good. All these coaches are tampering in the middle of the season, looking at potential candidates. We assume integrity flows in one direction. The whole process is tainted by collectives inducing players which is supposed to be illegal. But they are blatantly doing it. This whole thing is a joke.

[@analyticalinsight]

But dude didn't play at all in some of those seasons....Like he didn't play 9 seasons....He missed 3 full seasons but played during 2020....Didn't play in 2018 2021 or 2022

[@kvinche8120]

You shouldnt be able to enter the portal every year

[@pzoe82]

Man played at FIU………….

[@jarvisharris31]

I like the transfer portal for the simple fact of if you truly have a issue meaning that you’ve got something personal going on with Home or your coach left that recruited you then Cool you should be able to be granted to be immediately eligible and go wherever you like, but if you’re hitting the portal because you’re not getting on the field, then you need to stay where you at and grind it out Bust your ass and play ball. Cuz adversity is never going to stop.

[@howarddickersonjr.6994]

Tell that to Joe Burrow or Jayden Daniels or Jalen Hurts or Caleb Williams. All transfers who won the Heisman Trophy

[@joddyleaks8272]

Wouldn't pre tax be to his benefit??

[@InterstateChuck]

He’s a coach at heart huh… organizations can get rid of you whenever they please, coaches dip a week after promising they’re not going anywhere! Players though, remain loyal to something that’s never been loyal to you. “It’s business” until players care about themselves first

[@garyboi6255]

I agree with ty competition is not there

[@Dreadswing302-yx5tm]

I get what he saying about portal. But no mfers don’t take accountability at all. NIL is good but messes up a lot. Because as soon as these kids get to the league ain’t no portal ain’t no option to leave. You gotta stick it out. Now when they get to the league it’s a problem for them

[@SharpeShootersPod]

I disagree with the point that most schools are on the same playing field. Washington can not compete for the same players like the Alabama, Ohio State, Georgia, Texas etc

[@brotherLee340]

Yet Washington was in the National championship last year lol. And a transfer at QB. So technically they can compete. Old times teams like Bama would be stacked. Now those guys on the bench are transferring to places like Washington. The number 1 recruit last year chose Nebraska over UGA lol. Times are changing

[@SharpeShootersPod]

@@brotherLee340 ok cool. Now do it consistently year after year like all the other teams I named 😎. Keep that same energy

[@jroo272011]

Gotta start somewhere...

[@Hurricane23_]

Miami Hurricanes Running Backs - Edgerrin James, Nahjee Davenport, Clinton Portis, Willis McGahee, Jarrett Payton, Frank Gore. WR- Reggie Wayne, Santana Moss, Andre Johnson, Sinorce Moss, Roscoe Parrish, Devin Hester.

[@Quin89]

“These top colleges teams aren’t top anymore”… That’s what makes the portal good.. more teams will be competitive know.. these nfl players have no brain.. Lol these dudes want 2 teams to be good.. when a player goes somewhere and it’s not what they thought u want them to sit there and do nothing. Na that’s dumb

[@Dreadswing302-yx5tm]

Nick Saban was done as soon as the NIL took over because he always used boosters as NI, now every school has it , He doesn’t have the up on anybody else anymore. That’s why he stopped. His career record would’ve taken a turn. And he just left while he good.

[@kavariuschatman6589]

Man you don’t know nothing about Nick so don’t speak on him

[@bigcockedman714]

@@kavariuschatman6589 quit when it got tough.. just like in Miami.

[@chaera16]

take speed mic he just be talking

[@THE-BASEMENT]

Suggestion: You guy's should change the seating arrangement and background to make it look similar to Gil's Arena. Former players chilling in the living rm is not best look.

[@chuco915C]

Great feedback!

[@chuco915C]

Great feedback!

[@Buchanan909]

The portal isn't a bad thing. Why should a player be stuck at a school when their coach bailed after 1 year? Or why should their former coach have the power to control where they transfer to?

[@Saph_Adams]

Missing the point they are making, you need to listen to the video again. That’s good players can do that but, it doesn’t mean it’s always the best move and like they said some players get left in the portal and never find a new team

[@brotherLee340]

I think of your coach leaves then you should be allowed to transfer. I think Players should get 1 free transfer anyway. I just don't like the unlimited transfers.

[@dariuslee633]

gray hat is right...coaches be lying.... nick satan would get five stars just so other teams would not get them. and not play them

[@user-iu3md7ns7u]

Stop hating, let these kids get there’s it’s not yall live. Also if NIL was around when you guys played yall would have done the same thing! Y’all CAP

[@danielwiley9828]

If they play football for 9 college years “SO F’N WHAT “ we as people have NO PLACE to judge others people time line, we don’t know when something will blossom, secondly you can’t determine the timeline on someone chasing their dream. How do we not know that this individuals ultimate dream was to just play college football? Can’t complain about every aspect of the portal just have to respect it as a coach/player equalizer.

[@jefeseason4990]

Alabama should have never been a top school... Nick Saban has been paying players for years. NOW its fair game. If y'all think these players are jumping into the portal blind... Y'all are blind they have agents that are having these conversations every year.

[@nenola504]

Alabama was a top school in the 70s 80s 90s 😂😂 u sound stupid u act like saban aint win a natti at lsu 😂 were ever he was going in college he was gonna win

[@Tazman1193]

L1 R2 R1 D

[@JordanO317]

Screw that. This shit is a business. Don’t nobody care about sitting down and EARNING a title and spot. Why not go to another school, get paid, and set my self up for the pros? That’s idiotic and personal. HATER. If u ask me

[@sensationalvibrations6832]

U mad cuz they getting paid n u didn’t while u was in college

[@user-tp1sc2ve4g]

They did get paid😂😂😂

[@TheIkeman74]

Don’t use Colorado players for clickbait if you don’t truly fk with us

[@Angrychef-jx8bp]

They know the world fw Prime rn so they using that likeness for attention smh

[@thafunk5ive]

Lol what??

[@_joezyy]

Black athletes going against the transfer portal is insane when for YEARS coaches and universities have used their power to move how they want while restricting the athletes.

[@jamalcan1]

I think the portal option should only be allowed for Jr's ,redshirt sophomores and special circumstances.

[@howarddickersonjr.6994]

Does that apply to coaches too then? Should they be forced to stay when another school offers them more money?

[@jamalcan1]

@howarddickersonjr.6994 Coaches can be bought out of their contracts. That is up to the schools and coaches involved in that situation. Now if your coach leaves that year, as a player that is where an exception should be allowed to transfer no matter what grade you are in.

[@johnpitt2766]

All I’m hearing is the portals bad because the blue bloods can’t hog all the talent no more 🤷🏾‍♂️ if anything the competition is better it’s not no more walking into a stadium expecting a automatic win because you got 18 5⭐️s the other team got just as much depth 🤷🏾‍♂️